In short
Wedding and relationship money planning, focusing on the #1 money mistake couples make: lack of financial transparency and planning (especially around wedding costs and bridal party expenses). It also covers why financing weddings with credit cards is a bad idea, how to budget, how to set expectations with bridesmaids, and how to split wedding costs equitably based on income.
Guests (backgrounds)
Tori Dunlap, founder of Her First 100K, bestselling author of Financial Feminist, and host of Financial Feminist; Christa Innis, host/creator of Here Comes the Drama and Party Planning with Christa.
Key claims
Credit card wedding debt is extremely costly (high interest; interest compounds daily) and can damage credit for years. Bridesmaids shouldn’t be pressured into going into debt to “prove” friendship; transparency prevents resentment. Couples should decide what they actually want, then check affordability, and compromise strategically. Wedding costs should be split based on income, not 50-50.
Notable examples
A wedding venue coordinator mix-up led to undisclosed surprise charges; the couple maxed credit cards to proceed and faced issues like missing cake-cutting tools, chair shortages, rude staff, and extra fees for a “ceiling treatment” installation.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroducing Tori Dunlap and Wedding Finances
2:09 to 3:19
Tori shares her background and discusses the importance of financial conversations in relationships, especially around weddings.
“One of the things that so many business owners believe they need is a custom bespoke website that they have hired somebody to code for them.”
Introducing Tori Dunlap and Wedding Finances
3:22 to 4:52
Tori shares her background and discusses the importance of financial conversations in relationships, especially around weddings.
“When we finally met the third coordinator, we discovered that the information from our original meeting had been completely mixed up.”
Importance of Financial Conversations in Relationships
4:52 to 7:44
Tori emphasizes the need for couples to discuss finances before marriage to prevent future problems.
“Like I said, I've been a huge fan of you for years.”
Financing Weddings and Credit Card Use
7:44 to 11:21
The discussion revolves around the pitfalls of financing weddings with credit cards and the effects of debt.
“that you said that people are interested in having financial conversations because I love that.”
Bachelorette Party Budgets and Transparency
11:21 to 13:44
Tori offers insights on communicating budgets for bachelorette parties and the importance of transparency among friends.
“Yeah, let's talk about those two situations.”
Final Thoughts on Budgeting for Weddings
13:44 to 14:00
Tori concludes with strategies for planning a wedding without incurring debt, emphasizing honesty and planning.
“I think anybody who is in the financial space is going to give you the same advice.”
The Importance of Transparency in Weddings
14:00 to 19:04
Learn why open communication about finances is crucial during wedding planning.
“And luckily, it was not the kind of situation where it was like a week-long bachelorette in Cabo with the yachts and the bottle service.”
The Importance of Transparency in Weddings
19:35 to 20:21
Learn why open communication about finances is crucial during wedding planning.
“I'm literally looking at their website tonight to decide what I need because I have their tank tops and I absolutely love those.”
The Importance of Transparency in Weddings
20:25 to 20:41
Learn why open communication about finances is crucial during wedding planning.
“That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com slash FFpod for free shipping and 365 day returns.”
Budgeting for Your Wedding
20:41 to 28:00
Understand how to set a realistic wedding budget that reflects your desires.
“Like you said, if you're so nervous about telling a bride that, that they're going to like end your friendship over it, then they're not a good friend.”
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Setting Boundaries for Weddings
28:00 to 30:26
Learn the importance of setting clear boundaries with family during wedding planning.
“so it can just be like no this is our wedding we're gonna do this no but no this is our wedding we're going to do this and would love to see you.”
The Evolution of Wedding Traditions
30:26 to 33:56
Explore how societal changes have transformed wedding traditions and expectations.
“jump into a little wedding money rapid fire just to kind of get things going.”
Debunking Wedding Gift Etiquette
33:56 to 35:45
Understand why asking for cash gifts has become more acceptable and practical for modern weddings.
“No, the way we view weddings has fundamentally changed.”
Equity in Financial Contributions
35:45 to 38:56
Discover the importance of equitable financial contributions in relationships, especially regarding wedding expenses.
“Splurge on honeymoon or save it for a house.”
Equity in Financial Contributions
39:00 to 40:35
Discover the importance of equitable financial contributions in relationships, especially regarding wedding expenses.
“Grab your copy before the spoilers start showing up in the comment sections because trust me, you'll want to experience every jaw-dropping moment for yourself.”
Wedding Planning Woes
42:00 to 45:00
Learn about the challenges and unexpected costs faced during wedding planning.
“we discovered that the information from our original meeting had been completely mixed up.”
How to Address Vendor Issues
45:00 to 46:40
Discover strategies for addressing and resolving issues with wedding vendors.
“Oh, like what do you do in that situation?”
The Importance of Documentation
46:40 to 49:10
Understand the critical role of documentation in ensuring accountability.
“responsibly, they're incredible tools for situations like this.”
Negotiating After Wedding Disappointments
49:10 to 50:20
Hear insights on how to negotiate refunds and address significant issues post-wedding.
“Because I think most people don't even feel like they have the opportunity to do that.”
Personal Finance and Weddings
50:20 to 53:20
Explore the relationship between wedding expenses and personal finance principles.
“I'm like, I swear this is what he said to me.”
Resource Sharing and Community
53:20 to 54:30
Learn about resources available for financial education and support in wedding planning.
“Like I said, I'm a huge fan of your podcast.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Tori Dunlap:Welcome back to Financial Feminist. I am Tori. I'm a multimillionaire, a money expert, and I have helped over 5 million women be better with money. And today we're doing something a little different. We are re-releasing a conversation I had on the Here Comes the Drama podcast, hosted by Christa Innis, the creator behind Party Planning with Christa. Here Comes the Drama is your front row seat to the most outrageous, unforgettable, and laugh-out-loud moments from real-life weddings and events. From bridesmaid betrayals to mother-in-law meltdowns, Christa tackles it all with humor, empathy, and practical advice.
0:28Tori Dunlap:In this episode, we're diving into weddings, relationships, and of course, the money conversations that come with them. This is a highly requested topic on this show is the cost of weddings, the cost of being in weddings if you're not the one getting married. So we're talking from wedding budgets to financial transparency with your partner. And of course, I'm sharing my signature no shame practical advice, plus some hot takes on wedding culture that you're not going to want to miss. The story at the end, we did a am I the asshole at the end and oh, buddy, they were the asshole. So whether you're planning your own wedding, standing beside a friend and someone else's, or just love a good spicy money conversation, this one's for you.
1:04Tori Dunlap:We also created a free bridal party script that includes a deeper dive into some of the topics we're getting into today, and it helps you manage your money expectations as a bride or bridesmaid. So it includes a transparent script from the bride to your bridesmaids about costs and expectations. It also includes exactly what to tell the bride when you can't afford to be a bridesmaid or can't afford part of being a bridesmaid and as a bridesmaid what to tell the bride when the budget needs to be revisited. These conversations are so important because I don't want you to feel bitterness towards your friends.
1:33Tori Dunlap:I want your wedding day or your friend's wedding day to be nothing but sunshine and rainbows and butterflies. And when money is involved and when expectations are involved, especially around bridal parties, around the cost of the dress or the shoes or the makeup or the bachelorette party, I want everybody going in with eyes wide open. So you can get this free guide at herfirst100k.com slash bride. That's herfirst100k.com slash bride. Make sure you download it. It's going to be super useful. All right, let's get into the episode.
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3:35When we finally met the third coordinator, we discovered that the information from our original meeting had been completely mixed up. Even worse, what we originally were told was not correct. It was a total mess. Fast forward to our wedding weekend. Oh my gosh, I can't believe like nothing was figured out before the wedding weekend. Okay, we were hit with a surprise charge from the venue that had never been disclosed and we were not financially prepared. We ended up maxing out our credit cards just to finish paying off the wedding. Oh no! Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Here Comes the Drama.
4:11I'm your host, Krista Ennis, and today's episode is packed with real talk and wild stories. We are tackling one of the biggest topics when it comes to weddings and relationships, finances. And please excuse me while I geek out for a second because I'm joined by the incredible Tori Dunlap, founder of Her First 100K, bestselling author of Financial Feminist, and host of the number one financial podcast for women. She's a go-to voice for making smart money moves and building real wealth. Today, Tori's dropping financial advice for every couple, taking on rapid fire questions, sharing her unfiltered hot takes for wedding budgets and helping me react to a wild wedding story you won't believe.
4:47So without further ado, let's just get into it. Hi, Tori. Thank you so much for coming on.
4:54Tori Dunlap:Thank you for having me. I am so excited to talk to you. Like I said, I've been a huge fan of you for years. I think I found you in 2020 and your advice for women on finances like seriously changed my life. I'm not gonna get emotional and geek out, but you just do so much for women. Thank you for being here. And can you just introduce yourself? Thank you for all those kind words. It's very sweet. That's the mission of our work is to fight for women's financial rights. So I started Her First 100K as a side hustle in 2016. I was working a nine to five in marketing and then Donald Trump got elected and I was 22.
5:28Tori Dunlap:I had just graduated college and I thought I was coming into adulthood and into womanhood in a very different country than what ended up happening. And I wanted to do something about it. And that election really radicalized me. I started having conversations with my woman friends, my girlfriends. They were coming to me and asking me questions about money, about how to pay off debt and how to save and how to invest in a Roth IRA. And I was lucky enough to have a really great financial education for my parents. And I thought, well, maybe this is it. And as I grew in my own career and started realizing that there were certain situations that I could not get out of because I didn't have the money.
6:04Tori Dunlap:I couldn't leave that toxic job. I couldn't move out of a certain situation because I didn't have the money. It was like, oh, this is the answer to a lot of what we struggle with as a member of any minority group. When you have money, you have options. You have the ability to leave a toxic situation. You have the ability to donate to causes you believe in or to travel or to go to therapy. And you just show up as the best, baddest version of yourself when you are financially stable. And I started experiencing that in my own life. And I was like, this is the feeling I want for every single woman on the planet.
6:37Tori Dunlap:So I started her first 100K. It is now a multi seven figure business. We have helped over 5 million women save money, pay off debt, start investing. Our podcast, Financial Feminist is the number one money podcast for women in the world. And I wrote a New York Times bestseller also called Financial Feminist. And this is my favorite thing to do is fight for women's financial rights. I love it. And I thought you were the perfect person to have on this show because as we talk about weddings and events and going to that next chapter, you know, if that's the next step, money is talked about so much when it comes into relationships, whether it's moving in together, getting married, getting engaged.
7:15It can be a problem if it's done the right way. It can help a relationship, right? And so I feel like you are the perfect person to have on because in a lot of these stories that people send to me, they're like, well, we don't know how to have a budget for the wedding. We don't know how to say no to people offering to pay and then dangling a string above us because they want control of the wedding. And so I feel like money plays a huge part in this kind of next chapter that people kind of have.
7:42Tori Dunlap:Yeah, absolutely. And it's interesting that you said that people are interested in having financial conversations because I love that. It's usually not the case. We actually know that unfortunately, the vast majority of people get married without having serious conversations about money. And it ends up being the number one reason or the number one cause of separation in relationships is financial problems is lack of transparency. So these conversations about money, hopefully start when you're dating, and then continue to when you get more serious. And then when you move in together, and then when you start talking about being married.
8:16Tori Dunlap:And then of course, the costs of the wedding, typically a pretty substantial cost for people. And so I hope that everybody listening views money and financial wellness as wellness with the rest of their lives, right? We talk about mental wellness a lot in our society now. Mental health, we talk about, of course, our physical health, our emotional health, but our financial health, I would argue is absolutely paramount to all of the rest of those, right? We can't go to the gym unless we have money to pay for the gym membership. We can't go to therapy unless we have money. And especially in a healthy relationship, and especially before you enter into this new season of your life, it's about to get really expensive.
8:55Tori Dunlap:So you need to be having conversations with your partner and decide what do I want my wedding? What do I want my marriage to look like? Yeah, no, you make a really good point about so couples do not talk about money until they get to the wedding part or they're already married and they're like, oh shit, like my partner has debt or this is going on and we've never talked about it or how do we get through this together? And that's one thing I can straight up say, like you helped me and my partner who I'm now married to. But at the time, it's like we were living together, but it was like, how do we figure out bills?
9:28You know, we're kind of going through all these weird stages together. And so I think it's so important that we talk about it now in these stages, you know, I'm listening that's like currently engaged or with a partner moving in. It's so important to have those difficult conversations. And that's one thing you help me with, too, is because it's like it's awkward to talk about, especially when you grow up being like, don't talk about money. It's taboo. And you need to have those taboo conversations.
9:51Tori Dunlap:Yeah. I mean, it's very similar to sex. And we're actually more likely to talk about any other uncomfortable topic before we'll talk about money. So we'll talk about sex, death, politics, religion, we will have any uncomfortable topic to spare us from having a conversation about money. But I hope you're talking about your sex life with your partner. I hope you talk about what you like and what you want and what your desires are and how you enjoy pleasure, right? That's a huge part of a romantic relationship is your sexual health and your sexual life with this other person. Money's no different.
10:27Tori Dunlap:It's a little awkward to talk about. It's a little scary. there's a lot of emotional baggage and typically trauma that you bring into that conversation but we need to talk about it and especially with our life partner yeah absolutely okay so getting into it i reached out to my audience to kind of ask about some general questions when it comes to weddings and budgeting starting off this is a big one and i've seen some horror stories where people send them to me after about putting things on a credit card for a wedding and financing And I even, which I felt terrible for this girl. She reached out to me, this was a while back, about she was a maid of honor, didn't understand the responsibilities.
11:08There was not really a communication. And she ended up paying for every bachelorette party all on her credit card because she felt like she needed to be a good friend. So is financing a wedding with a credit card a good or bad idea? And what are your thoughts on that?
11:22Tori Dunlap:Yeah, let's talk about those two situations. So one, if you are the person getting married, how should I pay for it? But then I have a lot of pot takes too about the bachelor bachelorette parties because that is getting more and more expensive. Okay, so the first one, I do not want you going through what is hopefully one of the most beautiful, enjoyable days or experiences of your life thinking, how am I going to afford this? This is the same thing when people put vacations on credit cards. Nothing tastes worse than a pina colada on the beach when you're trying to relax with a side of guilt and with a side of like, I'm going to get home and the consequences will be there.
12:04Tori Dunlap:Right. I don't want anything souring this day. A lot of people go into debt, especially costly debt like credit cards, because they're like, this is a once in a lifetime experience. So YOLO, it doesn't matter. And if you don't are familiar with my work, I am not the financial expert that shames you for spending money. I am not the financial expert that shames you for being in debt. So I want to level set that. However, again, I don't want this beautiful thing being potentially tarnished when you realize that you're going to be paying it off for the next six months, two years, five years, 10 years.
12:38Tori Dunlap:And especially with credit card debt, that is the most costly kind of debt. You are in debt at least 15%. On average, 22 % interest for context. The average student loan right now is about 5 % to 6%. So you're taking out five-ish times the amount of a student loan to be able to take on what you're deciding to put on this credit card. And in addition, what a lot of people don't understand about credit cards is that the interest compounds. So that means that the interest earns interest. Not all loans work this way. Mortgages typically don't work this way, but credit cards do. So the interest every day you're in debt, it's earning you interest.
13:20Tori Dunlap:And also that interest doesn't compound once a month, it compounds every day. So this is why credit card debt in particular can be so damaging. It affects our credit score for potentially years. It affects just your ability to take on and get a loan for something like a house in the future. And it also is just really, really expensive. So please don't finance your wedding. And like that shouldn't be a hot take. I think anybody who is in the financial space is going to give you the same advice. Now, there are ways that you can think about the wedding of your dreams that don't involve credit cards.
13:56Tori Dunlap:And we can talk more about that. The second thing, let's talk about the bachelor bachelorette commitments. I have been in one bachelorette party. And luckily, it was not the kind of situation where it was like a week-long bachelorette in Cabo with the yachts and the bottle service. I think transparency is going to be the recurring theme of this episode, which is you need to be transparent with your partner if you're getting married, and you need to be transparent with your bridal party. So what that looks like, I was actually just talking to somebody the other day that they got a form with like, Like, hey, what's your budget?
14:36Tori Dunlap:I'm getting married. They sent it to their bridesmaids. What is your budget for these items? What is your budget for a dress? What is your budget for the bachelorette party? And then based on that, created the whole bachelorette experience. So I think it's really important for the person getting married to lead that conversation. Now, if you are not the person getting married and you are dealing with the, oh my gosh, these costs keep adding up and I don't want to be a bad friend. It's something I hear a lot as well. Okay, I'm going to get a little spicy. I love it. If someone in your life is demanding you go into debt to prove that you're a good friend, they're not a good friend.
15:18Tori Dunlap:Yep. Like they're just not. And if the bride is not sending out forms, having open conversations with you about how much things will cost, what you need to do is unfortunately take on the burden of that conversation, which is going to them and doing what I love is a gratitude sandwich of feedback. Okay. So you're going to go, oh, thank you for asking me to be a bridesmaid. I am so honored that you would think of me. Our friendship means so much to me. Nice piece of bread. Gratitude. Meat is the part where you have to talk about what's going on in your brain and your body and your life. So then you're going, I either finances are really tight right now and I really can't afford to be in the bridal party, but I would love to support you.
16:00Tori Dunlap:second piece of bread in any other aspect of the wedding. And I'm so excited. I will be there with bells on to support you and your partner. If you know you want to be a bridesmaid and maybe the conversations are happening where it's like, oh my gosh, yeah, we are going to go to Europe. And you're like, I can't afford Europe. Then you go again, so excited, so happy. I am not in the financial position to be able to afford this and then give them options. You can say, hey, can we go somewhere else instead? If you're committed to going to Europe, I'm going to sit this one out. or I am going to come to half of the trip because I can't afford the whole thing.
16:35Tori Dunlap:I'm going to come to half and then I'm going to have to jet, right? And so these conversations just need to be happening. I know it feels awkward, but I can tell you from the thousands of emails I have gotten, and I imagine you feel the same way, that the awkwardness is so much worse when the resentment kicks in. When you're going, oh my God, okay, okay, this has costed me$3 ,500 and I don't have$3 ,500. And it's very hard to be authentically celebratory for this person when you're harboring resentment. I don't know how you feel about this. A hundred percent. I get stories all the time where people then, after the fact, they feel like, oh, I spent all this money and we kind of dwindled away after the wedding.
17:20Or they just have all these feelings kind of built up. It goes back to feeling like they have to say yes to everything. And I get it. And I felt really glad that like when it came time for my wedding, I had two bridesmaids that were like, hey, I'm not going to do the bachelorette party. And I was like, that's great. I want absolutely no pressure for you guys. I even told my maid of honor, it's OK. Like these are optional. I mean, I had been in plenty of weddings over the years and I saw how things can add up and takes away, especially if you have kids or a partner at home. You don't want to take off work sometimes.
17:51And I get it. I get it.
17:53Tori Dunlap:And I think especially with a maid of honor, you need to be having conversations about what the expectations are. Because some weddings, it's just, yeah, it's basically like fancy title, but I don't expect anything of you. And for some, it's like you are a project manager full time. So you need to have a conversation. And also, what inevitably happens is that a lot of people get into the excitement of the wedding, right? We've all seen Father of the Bride. It's like you get in the excitement of the wedding and the wedding keeps getting crazier. So if you are the maid of honor and you committed to something that has now changed, it's time to have another conversation.
18:25Tori Dunlap:I've just, again, I'm so excited for you. All this seems so incredible. I want you to have the wedding that you want. However, I'm at capacity here. I can't do all of the things you're asking me to do. And I'd rather come to you and talk to you about it than feel secretly harboring, again, resentment or feelings because I want this to be a positive experience. So those are the kind of conversations you have to have. That again, might feel uncomfortable. But ultimately, I want everybody to be able to enjoy this experience, be able to enjoy this day. And the resentment, the guilt, the shame is not going to lead to an enjoyable experience.
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20:49Tori Dunlap:That tells you a lot. That tells you a lot. And what you can do is if you're in the bridal party, and I would recommend this for brides as well, is you do need to sit down and be like, okay, head to toe. What is every single cost going to be? Now, bachelorette party, the obvious costs are a flight. if you're getting on a flight, lodging, restaurants, experiences, but it's also like Ubers to and from the airport. It's also the matching bachelorette t-shirts. It's the drinks at the bar. And then a lot of people are taking the bridal party is paying for the bride's experience. Is that part of the expectation?
21:30Tori Dunlap:If so, how is that being split? Is it just the maid of honor? Is it split? If there's five bridesmaids, is it split five ways? Those are the conversations you want to have. Because again, you don't want to be in the moment when you've had a couple margaritas and you're feeling good and then you start making a plan. You're inebriated. It's not an authentic plan. And again, nothing tastes worse than a pina colada with a side of guilt. That applies to everything here. Nothing tastes worse than a beautiful wedding with a side of credit card debt. Nothing tastes worse than having a great experience in the moment and then waking up and going, I had to put all that on my credit card last night because I can't afford it.
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22:08Tori Dunlap:So again, you have to have conversations, but you also need to make a financial plan when everything's fine, when nothing is crazy, when you haven't planned anything yet. So you have the foundation that you need to stick to when there's temptation to veer away from the plan. Yes. Oh my gosh, that's such good advice. So I mean, I feel like that kind of covers when we're talking about, you know, managing your expectations. So going into more of like the wedding, I know we're talking about, so don't put on a credit card. Yeah. What would you say to someone that's like, how do I budget for this wedding?
22:41How do I kind of plan for this? And I would tell people too, I'm like, let go of expectations of others. Cause I think a lot of times people want this big, huge wedding with 500 people for other people. They don't think about, what do my partner and I actually want? What's true to us?
22:56Tori Dunlap:Yeah. I think you make a great point where that's what you need to start with is sitting down and having a conversation with your partner. What wedding do we want to have? And it's not what wedding does Aunt Marge want us to have? What wedding does my mom want us to have? It's what wedding do we want to have? Because ultimately, again, it is your day. And I know there's a lot of familial pressure. I know that there's a lot of people, a lot of cooks in that kitchen. but ultimately this wedding is about a marriage. The wedding is one day or for the crazy people, you know, a week, two weeks, right?
23:33Tori Dunlap:But the wedding is the beginning of a marriage. You are in partnership with this other person. You are not in partnership with your mom or your mother-in-law, right? You're not in a marriage with your mother-in-law. You're not in a marriage even with your maid of honor best friend. You are in a partnership and a marriage with your life partner. You need to make decisions and start acting like you're in a marriage when you get married. The wedding is just a day. The marriage is a lifetime. So you need to decide what you actually want with your partner. Now, again, easier said than done when there's a lot of voices.
24:10Tori Dunlap:However, I think getting on the same page without any of that pressure first, and maybe it's journaling separately. Like, what do I actually want? And again, not what have I seen in movies that tells me what I should want? What have I seen other people do that gives me a little bit of envy or jealousy? Like, what do you actually want? Then you need to ask yourself, can I afford what I actually want? Now, sometimes the answer will be, yeah, we can do that. And sometimes the answer will be, no, we'd have to go into a lot of debt to do this. So we have to find a happy medium there. Because a lot of times I want a Ferrari.
24:50Tori Dunlap:I want a seven month stay at the four seasons, but that is not in my budget, right? So there's a lot of things that we can want, but that we can't afford. And again, I cannot emphasize this enough. It is very easy to get in the YOLO state of mind of like, hopefully we only get married once. So like, we're going to go crazy. I do not want this day to be haunting you for years because you could not afford it. Right. So what do I want? Journal about that. Think about that. Come to your partner? What do we want together? And then what can we actually afford? So the best thing to keep in mind is that obviously weddings are going to be very expensive, but you need to determine in the wedding what is really important to you about this.
25:33Tori Dunlap:Is it I want this particular dress and I'm willing to compromise on other things in order to have that? Great. I was actually just thinking about this the other day. My partner and I have been together for three years. I don't think we're getting married anytime soon, but I don't know why I just thought about this. I'm like, what would be important at my wedding. And food is huge for me. And now I've turned my partner into a foodie as well. So I was literally thinking, I was like, when we get married, I think it will probably, like the food is going to be the priority because I want every guest at the wedding to eat really well.
26:02Tori Dunlap:And I want to have like a memorable meal. So, okay, I would be willing to compromise on other things. Maybe that's less crazy flowers or I do my flowers myself and I want good food. So I'm willing to compromise for that. My friend Paula Pant, who's another financial expert, says you can afford almost anything. You just can't afford everything. Love that. And this is all of life, right? It's like, okay, I really want to go see Taylor Swift. And AeroTor tickets are really expensive. So I am willing to not drink as much coffee, or I'm willing to not buy every piece of clothing I want to buy, because I would rather do this other thing.
26:41Tori Dunlap:So that's what you need to ask yourself. It's not deprivation. It's actually strategic. It's, I really want this thing. So I'm going to compromise on this other thing. So I can have this thing. So that becomes then the next conversation of what can we afford? And then where do we want to really spend our money? And then you can kind of determine what the budget should be. And also what you know, yeah, I don't want to compromise on that. But I'm willing to compromise on this so I can have that. Yeah, I love that. And that really ties into one of the biggest lessons I always see you talk about. And that's like not shaming people for the coffee, you know, buying your$4 coffee, whatever it is.
27:17If it's something that you enjoy and it's going to bring you happiness on that day, then do it. And if that's something that's in your budget, but if you're just doing like a really fancy ballroom because your parents got married there and they are really pushing you, maybe let's say goodbye to that and do like a smaller venue. So that's such a great point because I think we get caught up in what everyone else wants.
27:38Tori Dunlap:yeah or it's okay we need to invite your uncle and aunt that you haven't spoken to in 10 years just because they're family and it's like no no it's your wedding you get to do whatever the hell you want to do and i think that once you start setting those boundaries too with family boundaries always feel like aggression for people who have never experienced a boundary so it can just be like no this is our wedding we're gonna do this no but no this is our wedding we're going to do this and would love to see you. But if this makes you uncomfortable, we'll see you just see you at the reception. We'll see you for dinner after like, if they want to uninvite themselves from their behavior.
28:15Tori Dunlap:Great. That's in their control. I think I'm better at boundary setting than the average person. But like, that is the level of boundaries you need to have on a wedding day, because families are insane. Like, you need to 100 % know what you and your partner want. Make sure you two are on the same team, you're on the same page and you're staying committed to what you actually want. Yes. I always say like, if I would have gotten married to my now husband, when we first started dating, it would have been so different because I think I would have been so much more easily like persuaded. And because we were together like almost six years before we got engaged or before we got married.
28:52And so I was early twenties and I feel like so much more easily like, yeah, I should do that. Okay. But also our budget would have been way smaller. So it's like what I've gone into debt. Who knows? And so I feel like now, like by the time we did get married, it was like, we saw all our friends do it. We saw the things we liked and we didn't like. And then we were so much better at being like, this is what we want. We're not going to have a huge wedding. We're going to have, you know, standard amount. If I haven't talked to you in over a year, you're not getting invited. That's just how it was.
29:20Tori Dunlap:Yeah. And at the end of the day, like, if we're just looking at the legality of it, you and this person are signing a financial and legal contract. The wedding is something that from a cultural and societal point, we have now put on this. And again, especially if you're like a person of color, there are certain traditions, right? There are certain cultural experiences. But at the end of the day, like you and this person are signing a legal contract. Everything on top can be whatever the hell you want it to be. We've just in society had a very specific version of what a wedding is. Even white dress, so many people now are wearing red dresses.
30:00Tori Dunlap:They're wearing pantsuits. They're not wearing dresses at all. Right. So there's so many ways that you can make this an authentic celebration of your love and excitement with this person. And it can be whatever you want it to be. It can just be we're getting married at a courthouse and we're going and renting out the back room at a restaurant for the 20 people we want there. That's a wedding. It doesn't have to be a big hoopla if you don't want it to be. Yeah, I love that. Okay. I thought we would jump into a little wedding money rapid fire just to kind of get things going. And then I've got a story that someone sent me and we'll kind of react to that.
30:36So here we go. Okay. All right. I think I know what you're gonna say about this first one. Okay. Set the guest list or set the budget.
30:45Tori Dunlap:Yeah, I think we have to go budget first, but I think it can be a, you can do them at the same time of like, okay, I'm going to have a general budget and then I'm going to have the guest list. And there's going to probably be some people that don't make the cut. And it's your wedding. Yes. Yep. Got it. We always got to keep saying that cash fund or traditional gift registry. Oh, you've given me the perfect opportunity to talk about something that I've been meaning to talk about forever. Oh, my gosh. I love it. Sorry, this is no longer rapid fire. But give me a second. Okay, it's okay. I love it.
31:14Tori Dunlap:So okay. So you know how in let's call it the 50s 50 60s, right? And I'm going to use the heteronormative relationship here. When a man was marrying a woman, especially in, let's call it everything before really the 1970s, it was typically happening either at 18 and the woman was not attending university, or it was happening basically the moment they graduated or even, you know, the semester before they graduated. People were getting married extremely young. So especially women would literally go from their parents' house to their husband's house. That was it, right? So you'd go and you'd live your 18 years with your family and then you'd get married or you'd go to college and then you'd get married.
31:56Tori Dunlap:So you did not have a life that was not living with somebody else. You did not have a life and stuff that you had accumulated. You typically did not live alone, right? This is my Nana. My Nana got married, I think, at 19 and had three kids by like 25. And I think about that now and I'm like, oh, my God. So we live in a society now where people are getting married a lot later. Women have a lot more. Now, the rights are dwindling every day, but a lot more rights, right? Women are getting more college degrees than men are. So in our society, everything's changed. For me, right, I left my parents' house at 18.
32:35Tori Dunlap:I went to college until I was 22. I got my bachelor's degree. And I have lived on my own. I still live on my own. I don't live with my partner. I'm 30 years old. And so I have eight years where I have bought my own blender and bought my own couch and bought my own desk and bought my own silverware. So I think it's changing. But there was this idea, especially like 10 years ago, of it's like tacky to ask for cash. Like, I just want to buy you a toaster. And I'm like, okay, so now though, in a typical relationship, when I get married to my partner. My partner has a toaster and I have a toaster, right?
33:12Tori Dunlap:And maybe we've moved in together and consolidated to one toaster, but we've already had a life where we have purchased a lot of the things that would typically go on a registry. Now, weddings are perfect opportunity to ask for the things that you maybe couldn't afford. Like, okay, I'm going to get the really nice flatware. I'm going to get the really nice pots and pans with a really nice knife. But this whole narrative around, oh, it's tacky to just ask for money. I'm like, it's actually not because the way that weddings happens at a societal level is so different. They happen later in life. Women have an increased education.
33:46Tori Dunlap:People are getting married in a different way. They've typically already moved in together. And so I love a cash fund. That is my long-winded way of saying this. And I think it's so unfair when people are like, why are they asking for cash? That's tacky. No, the way we view weddings has fundamentally changed. I already have a blender. My partner already has a blender. You don't need to buy me a blender as a wedding gift. That is the third blender that I don't need. I've already established my independent life. Yes. Two things that I always see about cash funds anytime I post about it, I either, I should say showers or registries, right?
34:20People, one, can't understand when a bride in a traditional heteronormative relationship would want their groom there, would want a guy there. Like, why are guys there? That's one question I always see. and the other one I always see is I'm not paying for a honeymoon. I'm not paying for this. And I go, what? If you give money at a wedding, you don't have control over what they use it for. They can use it for their lunch tomorrow. They could use it for bedsheets or they could use it for a pina colada on the beach. Why does that matter?
34:49Tori Dunlap:Well, and let's be honest, if you buy me a blender and I already have a blender, I am going to the store, returning the blender and getting the money. Getting the cash. So just give me the money. But it's also like we have all of these sites, I think Zola is one of them, right? That'll say, okay, you can buy the couple dinner on their honeymoon. And like, I love that because it feels like ultimately it's just money, right? But it feels a little bit more like, okay, I am buying this person something. I'm buying them an experience on their honeymoon. I am helping them contribute to their down payment on a house fund.
35:18Tori Dunlap:So that's a nice kind of happy medium of I'm gifting them this experience. Does it go into a big cash fund? Yeah, it does. But I am buying them this experience that they can now do on their honeymoon or after getting married. So I think that, yeah, I just hate the whole like, cash is tacky. I'm like, no, it's not. The entire concept of marriage is so different than it was 50 years ago. Everything's different. So yeah, I just, I hate that whole narrative. Yes. Oh my gosh. I love that. Okay. All right. Back to the rapid fire. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. No, you're good. No, I love it. I love the discourse.
35:52Splurge on honeymoon or save it for a house.
35:54Tori Dunlap:I think it's up to you. It's up to the couple. if buying a home is really important. Great. Again, it's a trade-off, right? I really want a house. So I'm okay doing a less crazy honeymoon. Nope. I really want to travel. I want to have a once-in-a-lifetime travel experience. I'm not interested in buying a house or that doesn't make sense for us or I'd rather rent. Okay, great. Crazy honeymoon it is. Yeah. Love it. Bigger emergency fund before the wedding or after? I mean, if you can do it before, do it before. But this is, again, where we hopefully are saving a separate wedding fund from our emergency fund.
36:28Tori Dunlap:Your emergency fund is truly for emergencies. It is for when shit hits the fan. If you're familiar with my work, you know it's the number one thing I counsel people to do. It's the first financial goal you should be saving for. But that is separate. That is going to be separate from the amount of money you're spending on the wedding. Mm-hmm. All right. I got two more. Pay off debt first or save for the wedding? Depends on the kind of debt. If you're in credit card debt, that is really expensive. and we want to get that paid off before we prioritize saving more aggressively. However, my answer for a lot of things is like, why not both?
37:00Tori Dunlap:If you can do both at the same time, especially if the wedding's getting closer, I don't want you just so focused on paying off your debt that you suddenly have a$50 ,000 wedding that you will have to go back into debt for. So if we can do both, do both. Okay. All right. And last one, split the wedding cost 50-50 or based on income? Oh, I love this one. I think most things, if not all things in a relationship should be split based on your income. I have been very vocal about this. I'm a multimillionaire. I make a lot more money than my partner. My partner makes about$65 ,000 a year. So we are in very different tax brackets.
37:36Tori Dunlap:And everything from a big deal from getting married to just splitting the cost of a trip, we have a conversation and it's never 50-50 because that's not equitable. I'm not looking for equal. I'm looking for equitable. So I make a lot more than he does. It is my responsibility to spend more than he does. Right. It does not make sense to like split our rent 50 50. So maybe it's 70 30 80 20. You guys get to figure that out. But nobody is walking into a marriage with the exact same financial situation as somebody else. The exact same amount of debt, the exact same salary with benefits, the exact same earning potential even.
38:13Tori Dunlap:So that is something definitely that you should chat about with your partner. Yeah, I love that. I learned that from you as well. Like that's how my partner and I've always worked everything because we're like, it doesn't, it's not fair to be completely 50 % if we make different money. So I love that. Hey, drama lovers, big news. My book, Here Comes the Drama, A Ferris and Sloan Story is officially out now. If you've been following their wild wedding saga online, this is the full story packed with messy twists, sharp banter, family chaos, and all the heart you've come to love. And judging by your messages and posts, you're loving it too.
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40:50We'll kind of stop and react to it and we'll just go with the flow. Okay, this says, we were so excited to have finally chosen our wedding venue and secured our date. Planning could officially begin. We were assigned a venue coordinator and scheduled a meeting with her to go over all the details. The meeting went great. We left feeling confident. But the very next day, we received an email saying our coordinator had accepted a new job and we'd be assigned a new one. Here we go. Oh gosh. We were told not to worry. All the information from our meeting, the venue layout choices, ceremony, and reception were all shared with her.
41:24They would be passed along to this new coordinator. A few weeks later, we received an introduction email from our newly assigned coordinator. She encouraged us to reach out with any questions and scheduled our final meeting with her before the wedding. Naturally, we had several questions, so I emailed her and waited. Weeks went by without a response. I sent a follow-up message, still nothing. I tried calling, no answer. Eventually, I contacted the head coordinator at the venue who informed me that our coordinator was on leave just weeks before our wedding and we would be assigned another new coordinator.
41:56Gosh. Okay. When we finally met the third coordinator, we discovered that the information from our original meeting had been completely mixed up. Even worse, what we originally were told was not correct. It was a total mess. Fast forward to our wedding weekend. Oh my gosh, I can't believe like nothing was figured out before the wedding weekend. Okay. We were hit with a surprise charge from the venue that had never been disclosed and we were not financially prepared. We ended up maxing out our credit cards just to finish paying off the wedding. Oh no! This is a nightmare situation. Okay. If you guys are just listening, can't see the video.
42:35Tori just... Oh, I'm having a full meltdown. Oh gosh. Oh gosh. Here we go. Okay. So they ended up maxing out credit cards just to finish paying off the wedding because we were told the event couldn't proceed until it was fully paid. That's like unheard of. Why would they just all of a sudden say that to them? They didn't offer any payment plans either. That seems very odd. One of the wildest moments was when we were told after paying for a ceiling treatment, wait, what? That we would also need to pay an additional fee to have it installed? Are they building a new building for them? That is interesting.
43:14Tori Dunlap:I mean, a ceiling treatment being like you know tool or ribbon hung from the ceiling that's what in my head ceiling treatment maybe no yeah you know you might be right i think that's it i'm like picturing them building out a whole at first time oh see yeah and at first i was like are they taking like the popcorn off the ceiling or something like yeah like what that is insane so then there's the question what to do feels like they're not only paying for this item they're paying for it to be installed, which you would think that would be included in that price. We told them to remove it from the invoice because we simply couldn't afford to pay for something we thought we had already bought because it was supposed to be included.
43:51At the reception, the coordinator who was supposed to be there never showed up. Oh my gosh. I would be... Okay. This is terrible. The venue staff were rude to my family during setup. I had planned for lawn games during cocktail hour. But when my mom started setting them up, one of the staff members said, why are you setting those up? Don't do that. No one will play them. My poor mom decided it wasn't worth the fight and just didn't set them up, which upset me. The bartenders were rude to the guests and didn't even have enough of what we ordered for our specialty cocktails. The venue only set six chairs at each table instead of eight.
44:27Was this their first venue or first wedding? Like, seems like they don't know what to do, as shown in our seating chart. So guests left without places to sit. People were literally carrying chairs from table to table to sit with their group. Finally, it was time to cut the cake. The cake cutting set by the venue was supposed to provide and was then nowhere to be found. Oh, their cake cutting set. Someone had to run and grab a random knife so they could cut our cake. Despite all the chaos, we absolutely loved our wedding. But wow, it was definitely a wild ride. I love when they're so positive at the end.
45:02Tori Dunlap:I'm good time. Jesus. Oh, like what do you do in that situation? I got it. I'm going to fix this person's entire life. Love it. Okay, here we go. First thing is gather every single piece of documentation you have about everything that went wrong. So everything of like those emails that you never got a response to the document. Okay, there was no cake cutting. There was not enough chairs. There was an additional fee, even though like hopefully you have notes from the original call. Yeah. And hopefully you have a date on those notes. So we're going to go. Yeah, I'm going full like detective FBI here.
45:37Tori Dunlap:OK, so you need full documentation of everything. So that's the first thing. So gather all of that documentation. The second thing you're going to do is you are going to go to the venue and you're going to ask them to make it right. This is their first opportunity. OK, is you're going to gratitude sandwich again. Thank you for doing, you know, find some nice things that they did about. Thank you for taking care of us. I wouldn't say even saying taking care of us because they didn't. Thank you for hosting our special day. We appreciated you did this and this and this. And you're then going to go a full block of an email.
46:07Tori Dunlap:This was not right. This was the expectation set. We felt extremely unsupported. There was additional costs, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is what we expect. You're going to ask for a full refund on the wedding. A full refund. Yes. They're probably going to tell you no. but you're going to ask for a full refund on the wedding. If you get hostility back, you're going to go to your credit card company and you're going to dispute the charge. This is rule number three. So credit cards, one of the best things about credit cards is when used responsibly, they're incredible tools for situations like this.
46:44Tori Dunlap:I spent this money and did not get what I asked for or the expectation. I was charged this amount of money. It's like, okay, I was double charged by this company for no reason, right? You get to dispute the charge. So you're going to call your credit card company. You're going to tell them everything. You're going to be like, I have documentation. I have receipts. I can send them all to you. And you're going to dispute the charge. So the biggest two things is you're going to go back and forth with the venue, right? And you're going to get... It's not even Karen because you're asking for something that's totally understandable.
47:14Tori Dunlap:But you're going to be like, if you don't make this right, I'm not going to be able to recommend this venue. I'm going to be basically forced to leave a poor review. This was not a pleasurable experience. And I need you to make it right. You did not offer me a coordinator. I did not hear from them for weeks. There were additional charges that were not transparent. If you have the contract, right, you hopefully signed a contract with a vendor, go through the contract, see what was in the contract versus what wasn't. And then again, hopefully they refund you at least partially. If you either don't get a refund or just get a partial refund, go dispute it with your credit card.
47:48Tori Dunlap:Hope this helps. Yes. Oh my gosh. Perfect advice. Because that is just, I feel like so many times when I get stories sent from brides. They're just like looking back on it and be like, this sucks and just feel like they have to deal with it. I love it. I will give anybody listening, if something does not go right at your wedding, that was in somebody's control, not the weather, not something crazy, but like in their control, negotiate it. Yeah. Negotiate it every single time. I know somebody who literally got their wedding basically 50 % off. Like the photographer didn't show up on time. So they were like, hey, I want half off the photos.
48:22Tori Dunlap:Like the venue was supposed to have this it didn't they negotiated 25 off of that like there's already an insane upcharge as soon as you put the word wedding on anything and you expected a service that was not completed therefore you should not have to pay the full amount yeah that's just it so if anybody's out there who's like oh but i don't want to be an inconvenience no you spent your hard-earned money and this person went into debt to try to pay for this. So you need to dispute it. You need to have a conversation. Anytime something goes wrong and it's significant enough, it's not like, I don't know, oh, the tablecloths were slightly the wrong color.
49:03Tori Dunlap:No, that's too minuscule. But if something significant goes wrong that impacts your or your guest's experience, negotiate it, negotiate it. I love it. I love it. Because I think most people don't even feel like they have the opportunity to do that. I learned that from you too, is like where you can like call like phone bills or like internet bill, call them, you know, never just completely like accept something without calling and looking into it first. And you made a good point too about when you have meetings like this, whether it's a wedding or anything else, like a big, large sum of money, write things down, record things, have email, because I think a lot of times things happen on the phone.
49:39Tori Dunlap:I had a crazy - This is what I recommend for work too, is like, okay, if I have a conversation with somebody on the phone, I will send them a follow-up email of like, Like, hey, it was so great to talk to you. As a reminder to both of us, here's everything we discussed. Because then I have a timestamp. I have correspondence that they have received it, right? So unless they email back and they're like, no, that's not correct. We assume that we're on the same page. So then you have documentation of all of it. Yeah, I love that. This is a very small side story, but I learned my lesson with this. Recently, we were signing up for self-employment insurance or whatever.
50:10And this guy, I noticed, was only on the phone. and then things didn't go through, but I got like triple charged. And all of a sudden it was like this crazy like scam thing, but I had no emails to show it. I'm like, I swear this is what he said to me. And so now I'm like, okay, I'm never just going on the phone with an insurance guy. I need proof.
50:27Tori Dunlap:Yeah, and again, a lot of these conversations do happen in person or over the phone. So take notes while they're happening in a notebook or on your phone. And then I know it seems tedious and hopefully you won't need them, but you're gonna then email everybody you talk to and be like, hey, thank you so much. You can do this at work. Again, this is at work. This is in your wedding and planning is just going, hey, here's everything we discussed today. If any of this is incorrect, please let me know. So looking forward to seeing you again, meeting with you again. You have to have documentation of it because it really comes in handy for situations like this.
50:58Yes, I love that. Okay, one final thing. People send me their wedding hot takes. So I'm going to read just two of them and just give me your quick opinion on them. I know we probably covered some of these, but this person said, spending the equal amount of a down payment for a house on a wedding is insane. This is a really like controversial thing, I think.
51:19Tori Dunlap:If you can afford it, fine. I think it only gets controversial if you can't afford it. And again, I think some people don't want to be homeowners or they can't be homeowners. So personal finance is personal. That's what I always say at Her First 100K. But if you're going into debt, yeah, absolutely not. Yeah. Last one. Oh, OK. I mean, this is going to be like a personal. But this says real flowers are the biggest waste of money. Go without and get artificial ones as they last. Again, if it's important to you, I think real flowers would be important to me at my wedding because I love them. But I live in Seattle where Pike Place Market is, this is what a lot of people do in Seattle, is they don't get, you know, the florists and the crazy things is they'll go the day before, go down to Pike Place Market, get basically the farm fresh flowers that are there and then have their crafty mom or mother-in-law with them, like put the bouquets together.
52:12Tori Dunlap:Great way to get fresh flowers on a budget. But you can also, I've seen like people do fresh flowers with faux flowers or prioritize, okay, I'm going to have a big bouquet, but my bridesmaids are just going to carry eucalyptus or something like that. That's less expensive. Again, if you can afford it and it's a priority for you, great. It just means you maybe can't have something else that you might want to. Yeah. I was just telling someone one of the prettiest bouquets I saw at a wedding. I was helping with the wedding once, total DIY on a campground. and we pulled wildflowers the day before and threw them on the tables and they looked so beautiful.
52:46So you just got to do what you can work with.
52:48Tori Dunlap:Just keep in mind, I have a good friend who's a florist and she's seen the horror stories of if you have a bunch of beautiful flowers and it's going to be hot at the wedding, yeah, those flowers will wilt like nobody's business. So if you're getting married in the middle of the summer in Italy, just understand that your flowers, your venue is going to have to understand what to do with those flowers so that they don't will, you know, like you just need to have that expectation too. Yeah. Something to definitely think about. Well, thank you so much for coming on. I'm always like learning so much from you.
53:20Like I said, I'm a huge fan of your podcast. I have your book. Thank you. The information, the content you share is just so, so important for women, not only just women, but women to learn. And I just really appreciate your time. Thank you so much for having me. So one last thing, can you just tell everyone where they can find your work, follow you, and then anything exciting that you're working on? Yeah.
53:40Tori Dunlap:So HerFirst100K is where you can find me, HerFirst100K.com or at HerFirst100K. We have over 5 million other financial feminists who would love to come see you. Financial Feminists is the name of my book and podcast. So wherever you're listening right now, you'll find Financial Feminists there too. And we always have a lot of really cool stuff we're working on. I think my favorite thing right now is we launched one of our programs called the 100K Club. And it's basically all of the resources you need to get your first 100K. So for people trying to pay off debt, trying to learn how to spend mindfully, trying to save, we have an incredible community.
54:10Tori Dunlap:We do live events. We do coaching with me. And so, yeah, you can find all the information at herfirst100k.com. Thank you so much for having me on. You can follow Here Comes the Drama wherever you get your podcasts. And don't forget to grab your free bridal party script at herfirst100k.com slash bride. Thank you, as always, for being here, Financial Feminist. Thank you for supporting feminist media. We'll talk to you soon. Bye. Thank you for listening to Financial Feminist, a Her First 100K podcast. For more information about Financial Feminist, Her First 100K, our guests, and episode show notes, visit FinancialFeministPodcast.com.
54:48Tori Dunlap:If you're confused about your personal finances and you're wondering where to start, go to HerFirst100K.com slash quiz for a free personalized money plan. Financial Feminist is hosted by me, Tori Dunlap. Produced by Kristen Fields and Tamisha Grant. Research by Sarah Shortino Audio and video engineering by Alyssa Midcalf Marketing and operations by Karina Patel And Amanda Lefieux Special thanks to our team at Her First 100K Kaitlyn Sprinkle, Masha Bak-Mikyeva Sasha Bonar, Ray Wong Elizabeth McCumber, Daryl Ann Ingman Shelby Duclos, Megan Walker And Jess Hawks Promotional graphics by Mary Stratton Photography by Sarah Wolfe And theme music by Jonah Cohen Sound A huge thanks to the entire Her First 100K community for supporting our show.
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When it comes to love, weddings, and money — things can get messy. In this special episode, we’re re-releasing a conversation I had on the Here Comes the Drama podcast with Christa Innis, to talk about one of the most common (and costly) mistakes couples make: avoiding real conversations about money. From wedding budgets and bachelorette party expectations to navigating debt, boundaries, and financial transparency, we’re unpacking all the drama around love and money. Whether you’re planning your big day, standing beside a friend, or just love a juicy “Am I the A**hole?” wedding story, this episode is full of hot takes, practical scripts, and no-shame advice to help you protect your wallet and your relationships. Plus, we’ll talk about how to plan a wedding you can actually afford.
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