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Podcast Summary: Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
Episode Title
Adam Friedland Joins the Old Boys Club
Episode Description In this episode, comedian Adam Friedland joins Dana Carvey and David Spade. The trio engages in a lively conversation that includes compliments, discussions about prominent figures in comedy, and humorous anecdotes. They touch on various topics, from political commentary to cultural debates, and even the nuances of comedic talent.
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Key Discussion Points
Guest Introduction
Adam Friedland
- Adam Friedland expresses his admiration for Carvey and Spade, revealing his excitement about being on the podcast.
- They discuss the dynamic of young comedians meeting seasoned comedians.
Comedic Talents and Influences
- They reminisce about other comedians like Rob Schneider and Jerry Seinfeld, sharing personal stories and experiences.
- Friedland shares insights into his comedic style, notably influenced by Dick Cavett's long-form talk show format.
Philosophical Musings on Comedy
- The conversation shifts to whether comedians should be viewed as modern philosophers.
- David Spade humorously notes the distinction, alluding to comedians being less intellectually rigorous.
- Friedland discusses the challenge of addressing serious topics in comedy while maintaining authenticity.
Cultural Debate
- Grown Ups vs. Grown Ups 2: A lighthearted debate breaks out about the merits of both films, illustrating the importance of humor in cultural discussions.
Hidden Talents and Personal Anecdotes
- Friedland mentions his hidden talents and how he incorporates personal stories and humor into his performances, including some unexpected success with Jewish jokes.
- The group shares stories about their experiences at corporate gigs and the unique challenges they face when performing for different audiences.
Political Commentary
- They touch on the topic of political commentary in comedy, emphasizing the difference between being a comedian and a political commentator.
- Friedland articulates a desire to probe political figures on genuine issues rather than partisan talking points, suggesting a need for more authentic discourse.
Final Thoughts
- The episode culminates in a friendly banter about various comedic styles and the importance of keeping humor alive in challenging times.
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Key Takeaways
- Admiration Across Generations: The interaction between Carvey, Spade, and Friedland highlights the mutual respect among comedians of different generations.
- Comedy as a Reflection of Society: The episode underscores how comedians navigate serious topics and cultural debates through humor.
- Humor in Unlikely Settings: Stories shared about corporate gigs illustrate the unpredictable nature of performing comedy in varied environments.
- Authenticity: Emphasizing genuine connections with audiences and staying true to one’s comedic voice is highlighted as crucial for success.
Conclusion This episode of *Fly on the Wall* provides a humorous and insightful look at the world of comedy through the lens of seasoned comedians and their younger counterparts. The lively conversation reveals the complexities of comedic expression and the evolving nature of entertainment.
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Contact Information
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroduction to Adam Friedland
1:28 to 3:27
Dana and David introduce Adam Friedland and discuss his background and humor.
“He's like, I sure hate to go to one of them Korean whorehouses.”
Adam's Comedy Journey
3:27 to 5:24
Adam shares his experiences and admiration for Dana and David.
Discussion on Rob Schneider
5:24 to 6:08
The trio discusses Rob Schneider's comedic presence and confidence.
“with our guests dana was on the set as a child when when uh buster keaton was hanging off the clock oh really yeah bk bk i said man that's too high 1936.”
The State of Talk Shows
6:08 to 11:08
The conversation shifts to the evolution and decline of long-form talk shows.
“important thing for me and my group of friends i i had a i had a a schneider on on my talk i I saw that episode.”
Adam's Podcast Experience
11:08 to 14:00
Adam reflects on his podcasting journey and the challenges of trying hard.
“you know that hi isn't that great in his room i'm curious i love these machines I love to research stuff.”
Navigating the Comedy Landscape
14:00 to 14:34
The hosts discuss the challenges and efforts involved in the comedy industry.
Reflecting on Comedy and Connections
18:16 to 20:16
The hosts share anecdotes about friendships and connections within the comedy scene.
“yeah yeah uh straight up as they say absolutely um no cap dude i don't say that kind of stuff i was 38.”
Women in Comedy Discussion
20:16 to 22:30
The hosts engage in a discussion about women in comedy and their contributions.
“I'm just – I thought that it was the old boys club.”
The Shift in Hollywood
22:30 to 24:30
A conversation about the changing Hollywood landscape and industry challenges.
“I'm sure they were flying back saying Yeah, I'm going to do the Seinfeld bass for the rest of the time we do the podcast.”
Recollections of Early Careers
24:30 to 28:05
The hosts reminisce about their early careers and the rise of their peers in comedy.
“And that starts with negotiating with the union and also subsidizing, you know, the industry tax breaks to compete with Romania.”
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Audition Stories: From Standup to SNL
28:05 to 29:13
Learn about the audition experiences of Dana and David for SNL.
“But I was seen in a club, which was lucky.”
The Nerve-Wracking Pressure of Live Performances
29:14 to 31:08
Explore the challenges and pressures of performing in front of SNL's elite.
“And Phil Hartman at a studio and stand in front of maybe five cast members, Lovitz, Nora Dunn, Dennis Miller, Lorne Michaels, some assistants and do kind of chatty stand-up, you know, just doing characters.”
Navigating the Comedy Scene and Writing
31:09 to 33:59
Discover the dynamics of writing for SNL and the early comedy scene.
“Do you have a fucking, you know, pencil dress?”
Artistic Ventures: Painting and Comedy
34:00 to 35:36
Hear about Adam's painting during COVID and its unexpected reception.
The Roast That Went Wrong
35:37 to 40:02
Listen to Adam's experience at a roast that turned awkward due to timing.
“And I was told that Jeff Ross is going to be the roast master.”
Corporate Gigs and the Pressure to Perform
40:03 to 42:00
Examine the difficulties comedians face in corporate gigs and the pressure to succeed.
“like looks at me he's like adam i think it's because he's dead and i'm like oh i didn't mean his body is barely cold.”
Comedian's Pressure to Perform
42:00 to 42:40
Learn about the intense pressure comedians feel during performances.
“And it's kind of hard when they've had dinner and it's like 11.”
Encore Moments and Crowd Reactions
42:40 to 43:30
Explore the dynamics of crowd reactions and encore performances in comedy.
“It was either Harlan Williams or Santino is next.”
Unique Comedy Specials and Techniques
43:30 to 45:00
Discover unique stand-up special formats and comedic techniques.
“Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter?”
Podcasting and Comedy in the Industry
46:16 to 47:20
Insight into the podcasting landscape and comedy's role in it.
“Adam, have you done a Netflix special yet?”
Navigating Politics as a Comedian
47:20 to 49:10
Understand the challenges comedians face when discussing politics.
“That's a question I feel comfortable asking.”
Understanding Modern Politicians
49:10 to 52:40
Gain insights into the personalities and backgrounds of modern politicians.
“He's cooking on that show, but I had him on the show.”
Reflecting on Political Class and Standards
52:40 to 53:35
Discuss the changes in political class and the standards of politicians.
“Now I, we got to bring back the Yale guys that do like satanic blood rituals.”
Listener Engagement Invitation
56:00 to 56:12
Learn how to engage with the show by submitting questions.
Transcript
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1:34Adam Friedland:destroying himself as a cocktail waitress at night i'm just i don't i thought that it was the old boys club i thought this was the kind of stuff you guys said i go to one of these korean barbecues He's like, would you believe it? They make you cook your own food. He's like, I sure hate to go to one of them Korean whorehouses. Wait, oh, why don't you come over here and suck your own dick? They say comedians are modern day philosophers, which is offensive to modern day philosophy. You know, like there are actual smart people in the world. If we meet, I will go just on my knees and just fillet in public, in private.
2:11Adam Friedland:Done. Okay. You know, we always say we're not going to do these things, but let's do it. All right, Dana, we had Adam Freeland and he's on today. We talked to him. He's got a podcast that, you know, is out there, does well. He's a funny guy. He's actually a comedian, but he does a lot of some politics, some comedian stuff. Sort of a mixed bag, right?
2:33Dana Carvey:Yeah, it's very interesting. He loves Dick Cavett. or his set is kind of based on dick cabot a talk show from the 1970s barely remember but yeah and he kind of lays back he's got a really kind of uh likable personality he's kind of pithy he's a little bit political and then he'll say stuff that's slightly off kilter and so it's very interesting yeah he kind of catches people off guard on his show because they don't really know where he's coming from and uh yeah but he's a comic at the root of it all and he knows us and And we brought him on and we had a good chat with him. Actually, some good laughs.
3:09You never know what you're getting really, but if we can get some good laughs out of it.
3:13Dana Carvey:Yeah, and it's flattering when you meet younger comedians who are kind of like excited to meet us and asking us a couple of questions. That was interesting. But yeah, he's a very charming young man and I enjoyed it very much. Here he is, Adam Freeland. Don't get mad. I have to text the whole podcast. No, I'm done. Okay. Who are you texting? i'm trying to get spots no i'm kidding sandler's listening to this podcast so every time his name is no you stop guys i i say thought about who just as a signal to that adam yeah yeah this adam is on
3:52Adam Friedland:anyway it's like uh the ear tug the mary tyler moore uh ear tug to her her mother carol burnett carol burnett carol burnett jesus we come from this on off track i'm blowing it right now we can get out of 45 minutes oh my god it's impossible on our podcast exposed to the school everyone's laughing at me right now you guys are uh i i just i'm a huge fan i mean like it's very cool to meet you guys i uh i do it likewise i meet people and i'm not i'm not nervous around anyone literally i i i'm uh i have i've seen delusions of grandeur i am really i don't know i i've uh narcissistic but like around you guys is like uh it's it's it is but an honor i've been a fan my entire lives of the both of yous exactly we haven't interrupted someone thank you we want
4:49Dana Carvey:hear the whole compliment yeah for the first time we've never we kept our mouths shut we don't want to interrupt that flow but yeah i was the same way we're just i'm up the ladder from you so when i
5:01Adam Friedland:met steve martin or something sheki green yeah when he met australia keaton you know about do you know who's that oh has she teshu it's he was uh he raped uh like half of anyway we're
5:19Dana Carvey:gonna go to a commercial and come back anyways adam we'll be back with hollywood rape stories with our guests dana was on the set as a child when when uh buster keaton was hanging off the clock oh really yeah bk bk i said man that's too high 1936. oh no it's all right i got ring lights i got a mic under here yeah this is your grandpa's podcast but anyway let's go back to compliments uh what do you what do you like best about what what floats your boat about david spade
5:53Adam Friedland:yeah well nothing nothing at all i'm talking to you just shoot me okay so we got no i mean i've i've i've seen a hundred maybe a hundred probably a hundred movies with you i mean i've seen literally probably every single uh every single happy madison i've literally uh it's it's a very important thing for me and my group of friends i i had a i had a a schneider on on my talk i I saw that episode. Loved it. Yeah. Come on. What are you talking about? I have a schnauzer. Yeah, I have a small dog. He's a tall glass of water, that boy. Schneider. Rob Schneider? I had no idea. He was like, I thought, I don't know.
6:41Adam Friedland:He was like 5 '2". Yeah. I always thought he was like 6 '8". Schneider looks so huge on camera.
6:50Dana Carvey:He has a - On camera, he's a titan. I'm telling you what, though, whatever the numbers are, the confidence Rob has as a person going in the room and he's the only one who's yelling at him. That confidence makes you taller or makes you bigger. It makes you forget, you know. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
7:12Adam Friedland:I went to AC to see Sandler perform and Schneider opened for him for my friend's bachelor party. and I told Rob I loved his closer. It happened to be one of the only non-political judgment. Are you being arrested? No, no. I live in New York City. It's a hellscape. It's a violent anti-Semitic hellscape.
7:40Adam Friedland:Is that garbage on the streets? That's what I heard. So that's not Nick Mullen? Yeah, they don't have alleyways. The city planning, they didn't factor in alleyways, so we have garbage on the streets.
7:48Dana Carvey:but you've got ma 'am danny now to kind of he promised he's my friend yeah friends oh good good i'm gonna say nice things no he probably grew up watching you guys as well i mean he's
7:59Adam Friedland:he's it's the first like a leader that i met where it dawned on me that he's like of my generation right and uh it was like yeah we were like talking about like hip-hop and like soccer like we saw I have a question. For like the lame, or millennial men.
8:16Dana Carvey:Can I ask you a question? So this is kind of what I gather, because I saw your precursor for your show, and you had a CRT television. You know, when you do your little preamble up front. Yeah. And you also, it looked like you were filming it from something deconstructed from the 80s or 90s, that segment. There was a wash over it. It was kind of dull, but it felt very retro. And I find that people who have came through the analog age, the end of it, went into the digital age, have nostalgia for that era. Like when you were a little kid, right? So is that like an emotional touch point for you? Like, do we also trigger that with you watching us when you're like 12, 10, 12?
9:02Adam Friedland:You're triggering something. You can't see down here. uh no but uh no that that is uh modeled after a reference image so the show is kind of modeled after cavett so it's like a long form talk show right so it's a it's the attempt was to like revive some i i do a talk i don't know i've seen it many many times i think you're great at it i
9:25Dana Carvey:love it and i and i love the dick cavett reference i think dick cavett has only gotten shiny and brighter as we go forward. I mean, his long form interviews with like Robert Mitchum, these old timey movie stars for like an hour. It's so, and then you're hearing the sirens, you're hearing the sirens, tiny audience. So I'll watch it on YouTube some nights. I'll just go on a Dick Cavett run, you know? Yeah.
9:48Adam Friedland:They really, they age so well. And the thing that's cool about it was because of the format of like long form interview and it's like free flowing conversation. You could see a famous person for who they are as a guy, you know? Totally. And talk shows nowadays, it's, I don't even know if they make money for the networks anymore. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's like, tell me your vacation, your story about losing your luggage. And then what's the movie? And then there's the clip. And it's like, there are these like kind of like weird, like legacy, like products that just exist because they have to be there.
10:25it's super surfacy i mean in the old days i don't even know when they invented boredom it was probably like late 80s because tom schneider show was again just a like he had dan akrodon they would talk for 45 minutes straight it was like no commercials and you would learn a lot you're right it would go a little deeper than just i heard you bought a dog recently and then you do
10:48Dana Carvey:dog yeah and he also had gore vidal and norman mayler and really enemies and fights and weirdness would happen on dick cabot and real tension you know but yeah the talk show's dying it basically late night talk shows took in about 485 million pre-pandemic between all of them now it's like 50 percent less 190. you know that hi isn't that great in his room i'm curious i love these machines I love to research stuff.
11:18Adam Friedland:Yeah. I love money. Yeah. I know nothing. I know nothing about money. I don't know. The objective really was just to like, do not, I did a podcast for so long that was like quite successful. Come town. Come town.
11:32Dana Carvey:Nick, Nick Mullen, who's a kindred spirit. I think he's a great improviser doing characters and impressions. And I thought you guys played all the great. Yeah. And Savro. so yeah chemistry between you three yeah it was it was kind of like a just a friendship simulator
11:52Adam Friedland:i guess for people because it's like you don't see people listening to a podcast so you're kind of in a living room and then like once you stop recording then you start having the argument about what to have for lunch it's kind of like it feels like you're in a living room with friends hanging
12:07Dana Carvey:out it was it was either overtly performative when nick would do impressions or it was so lo-fi and the way you guys would even dress in your whole body language. And sometimes you get really tight on the mic and kind of talk really soft. So it drew you in. But my question for you is this. You didn't do ads, right?
12:27Adam Friedland:We did. Yeah, we did ads and Patreon. We do the worst ads. Yeah. Okay. We do the absolute worst ads ever. Like we had boner pill companies, which are like literal pharmaceuticals. We'd make really just irresponsible claims. we had no idea why they were like signing up still but i think because the ads became part of the show they become like they're funny well you know they're in a meeting one day going did you know these guys from come town are goofing on our no they loved it why do we keep buying on come town no no seriously uh i think because people skip the the reads right yeah i hate as i hit the 30 second skip yeah we love our our advertisement go ahead no i mean you're you guys i mean some of the worst i mean you barely know how to read but yeah no i mean no but genuinely uh we were working two hours a week and then stav was still doing the road nick and i got really lazy uh lazier than two hours a week well yeah i mean i i didn't have to work i mean i stopped doing stand-up kind of And it's just like, yeah, I thought I sucked also.
13:39Adam Friedland:I was kind of like the nebbish of the show. Nick is like the funniest guy ever. So I was one of the funniest guys ever. I was like, oh, I'm just like the gay Jew. And then with this show, it's like kind of just a series of accidents. I think it started off as a joke to make me into like a public intellectual. You're the new John Steward. set oh yeah who's they i'm not i'm gonna blow it i'm gonna like literally i'm just wearing glasses i mean they think i'm something that i'm not i'm just wearing really i'm a stupid guy like but beyond that like uh yeah this is this requires a lot of effort and like the scary thing about trying is that if you try as hard as you can you can find out that you have no talent yeah and uh what's ended up happening is that it's gone really well Oh, Heather's all about the Grooms, dude.
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18:01Adam Friedland:yeah come town is gone you like it usually i like the cum stain sounds so so cool that you
18:08Dana Carvey:you you know about nick it's so cool i had young people turn me on to it and say really you should go on this show and so you can riff with nick you know wow so he's great that's awesome to hear yeah yeah uh straight up as they say absolutely um no cap dude i don't say that kind of stuff
18:29Adam Friedland:i was 38. that's you and madani over there like no cap mandani no me and madani are we're we have we have plans we have plans we go to soviet style yeah soviet style plans yeah what kind of
18:45Dana Carvey:apartment like could I get as kind of a casual acquaintance of the mayor now through you if I wanted a one bedroom in the village nice you know um what could I get it for if we connected through
19:01Adam Friedland:Danny I don't think the mayor does real estate okay that's an answer I was just probing I was
19:09Dana Carvey:just probing in case we know Lorne Michaels here's a question I have it'd be funny if he had a side
19:15Adam Friedland:He had to get a side job. He still does open houses. He's a real estate agent. The mayor has been destroying himself as a cocktail waitress at night. So he's in trouble.
19:27Dana Carvey:Would you have aspirations for SNL or ever thought about that?
19:32Adam Friedland:As a kid, it was the coolest thing in the world. But I think I'm kind of too old probably now. I'm 38. I kind of have the thing going. But I'm very close with Sarah's and Sherman's. She's one of my good friends. That nerd spanked her. You guys are friends, right? Absolutely. That's so awesome. Yeah, yeah. Isn't that funny? All she does is yell at me and toss me around. Don't take that shit from her. What the fuck does she know? I can't help it. What has she done with her life? Fuck her, man. I'm like, why are you my boss? No, I mean, she's like one of – that's like – We love her.
20:07Dana Carvey:Can we talk about her special a little bit? I watched it the other night. I was there. I was there for the day. You were there? it's the wildest thing and it's only her could do it i was just her commitment to being bananas is so good yeah and attacking the audience go ahead yeah i think women can i think women can
20:25Adam Friedland:do it i think they could do comedy i for a long time we doubted it but i thought you know yeah
20:30Dana Carvey:this is just a recent thing yes male or female this is an x-rated haunted house how many of them
20:39Adam Friedland:a freak show what how many of them don't even get it oh women oh women a thousand million just kidding they're funnier than us of course they tell great stories well no no i'm just making fun of sarah
20:52Dana Carvey:no no we had to we had to give it up i we were in that mode back in the 80s for you know nor done didn't think they were represented and then all of a sudden sherry o'terry and tina fey and christine wig and you know that the women kind of took over the show Yeah, they did some rice.
21:10Adam Friedland:I'm just – I thought that it was the old boys club. I thought this was the kind of stuff you guys said. I don't even believe that. They do it during the lunch. I think women are fabulous and so funny. And they're stories. They really go somewhere and they're really interesting. And they went to CVS. Are you reading a lot? Where are you getting this point of view?
21:30Dana Carvey:No, this is his – he's just talking off the top of his head. I co-sign all that.
21:35Adam Friedland:I mean – I'm teasing. I don't believe that. No, I am too.
21:38Dana Carvey:I'm in your frequency right now. I get this.
21:40Adam Friedland:No, Sarah, but Sarah's special is disgusting and revolting. And it's so fun. And she's a singular voice and she's a lovely friend. When you're genuine, it's kind of sickening. I know. It's disgusting. Really? It sounds like I'm trying to molest you or something. Yeah, I'm molesting with compliments. You're like Sarah's mullet.
22:07Dana Carvey:Stand up is kind of boring a lot of time. I don't know. You know, when you hate everybody. I hate it. I masturbated in front of my cat and the elbows on the mic. And Sarah never is boring. She walks out and goes to this guy. You act like you don't have a butthole. I'm like, okay, she's already got us. She's doing stuff that's very different. Very hard to find different. Well, I liked it. She took the Seinfeld riff and she would press a button, doodle. i didn't know you could do that like i thought i'm feeling go you can't have it no sorry she doesn't get in trouble for doing that right would you have to clear that adam
22:48Adam Friedland:i i had to talk to jerry yeah and i and this and uh netanyahu i had to talk to both them they're fine now did you hear my joke that i was saying that all my exes got a podcast now it's called Didn't Calm Down. Really? Don't say that. I'm sure they were flying back saying Yeah, I'm going to do the Seinfeld bass
23:12Dana Carvey:for the rest of the time we do the podcast.
23:14Adam Friedland:I saw a video recently of how they did it, and it was a synthesizer. I thought my entire life was a slap bass. Yeah. Okay. There's a YouTube video of the composer with the music. Yeah, it's all, yeah. And he's doing it live to the episode. No. Yeah. But it blew my mind. It was like, I thought, yeah. Dude, I'm so old. I was on the lot at CBS Radford when we were doing Just Shoot Me. Oh, a couple of people remember. And also they were doing Seinfeld. And I'd see him on his bike. It was the greatest lot. Of course, just filed for bankruptcy. The lot. Terrifying in LA. Thanks, Karen Bass. Thanks, Gavin.
23:58You're friends. I'm kidding. Whoops. Who? Who is that? I don't know. I'm just trying to put blame somewhere. The Hollywood industry is dying. He's on your show? Yeah, yeah. Tell him to beef up fucking Hollywood. Bring it back. Who's going on?
24:14Adam Friedland:Send me a list. I would say this is a great idea. I'll text you some ideas because we'll get this place back in track. It's Gavin. Is that who the guest is? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I have three next week.
24:26Dana Carvey:Three big ones.
24:27Adam Friedland:Yeah.
24:27Dana Carvey:The Hollywood studio system is dying. The amount of productions is dying. And so they have to do something. So more production comes back. And that starts with negotiating with the union and also subsidizing, you know, the industry tax breaks to compete with Romania. Boston, Atlanta, Romania, Bulgaria, Zanzibar.
24:50Adam Friedland:So do you like put it in an email or maybe if you guys are saying it, you guys are legends. he might be like oh you should say we have a question from a couple of constituents and then i'll go hi i'm dan listen you already lost schneider you don't want to lose them
25:08Dana Carvey:what they're poisoning our water no you were saying his last joke isn't political
25:13Adam Friedland:the korean yeah the korean uh barbecue joke
25:22Adam Friedland:i go to one of these korean barbecues he's like would you believe it they make you cook your own food he's like i sure hate to go to one of them korean whorehouses wait oh why don't you come over here and suck your own dick why don't you come over here and your own ass yeah it's just like it's so stupid well i love you guys you ready for adam i love fake
25:45Dana Carvey:outrage is so great they make you suck your dick well no they don't he's like it's kind of lazy here's one of his jokes we just saw him on uh his first letterman we were all friends actually sandler me judd we were all friends right before we all got us we're doing stand-up in the valley and shit and and schneider was the first one to get letterman we all loved fucking letterman of course and uh the show and so he got it and i was on tick tock the other day and it was so he had such a funny unique look he looked like a little cowboy shirt and he had a big pompadour and he's like did he do elvis he did elvis on a fish hook and he did it elvis on a fish hook that got him snl i think yeah i think that was so weird he did how you say dude when you're in la there's different ways of saying it he had one where he goes my parents when When I, one time they spilled, I spilled like, no, no, he hit his knee on the coffee table and he was a little kid and his mom would hit the coffee table and go, bad coffee table, bad.
26:51And then he'd feel better because she goes, we make it even here. You were bad. And so he goes to bed and then his dad wakes him up at two in the morning. Hey, Rob, your mom just spilled some hot oil on the coffee table. Come on out here. We got to make it even.
27:07Adam Friedland:you know our policy so was he the first like breakout of your of your crew did i say it wrong there's no wow um uh i've worked with him in san francisco i maybe no i mean like when you guys
27:22Dana Carvey:were all like yeah before i was like no guys no yeah spade and schneider came as like a duo somehow and we got hired together we were we auditioned at the same time got hired as writers adam i think doing remote control so i think he was sort of known a little bit in that world of mtv which is a big world back then yeah he was on mtv he was trying i am poor boy he struggled for i think it was like 13 weeks before when he got to new york and then he got a tv show so sandler had a lot of stuff going on undeniable yeah undeniable but yeah no way i knew rob and uh well from san francisco and then met spade in la so and dennis miller we both knew them and sort of helped tacitly how about these guys and then you only had like 10 minutes right at the time david or 15 yeah probably 15 i was not a headliner for shows maybe a middle they came in as writer features basically right yeah yeah wasn't a writer either it couldn't it was a we couldn't even get a right
28:29Adam Friedland:What did you do for your audition? Just stand up? You used to talk on me or Dana? Yeah, what did you guys do? I think I know. What did you do? Dana, I think, did characters. You did characters, right? Well, yeah, yeah.
28:42Dana Carvey:Basically, chatting in between. But I was seen in a club, which was lucky. Because I auditioned for SNL, the Comedy Store, in a cattle call. And followed Sam Kennison with no MC in between at midnight. And bombed epically. and the SNL people were there, but not Lorne. And then later on, Lorne was, the show was coming around. So I went to a small club on the West side and Lorne came with Cher and I got to do 40 minutes of standup with a regular audience. But I still had to audition again. Jim Carrey was there too. And Phil Hartman at a studio and stand in front of maybe five cast members, Lovitz, Nora Dunn, Dennis Miller, Lorne Michaels, some assistants and do kind of chatty stand-up, you know, just doing characters.
29:28Dana Carvey:Did you get laughs? Like the thing is you get no laughs, right? Not in that one. Not with Lauren and everybody. You just have to really – It's so nerve-wracking. Well, I'd done chopping – I did something and then there was a fire alarm. So there was 10 minutes of nothing. What a bummer. I'm just standing there and then Lauren goes, oh, is that pretty much – do you have anything else? Is that it? Just a song. is that all reviews and i i thought later that his aloof coldness was trying to find out can you take live tv and not blow it because the tension was i think intentionally ratchets it up to make you nervous and see if you can handle it i said i got a lot more and then he went oh you're like i'm just waiting to see if there's a real fire can we leave well sarah actually speaking of our friend sarah jesus uh in the middle of her uh second show
30:28Adam Friedland:taping the uh the lights fucked up and she she was like she had a ton of momentum the lights fucked up and then she had to come back out cold and i it was giving me heart palpitations like as a comic because it's like it's a it's a special taping yeah and i was like i was like nauseous i She had to get the fucking momentum back. And I was like, I was so stressed out. I was a crazy guy. Yeah. I said, she's dressed as a goiter or some bitch she's doing. She's dressed as some sort of clown psycho. We were on the road and I go, this is literally a clown's outfit. She goes, I know. I go, do you have any normal?
31:09Do you have a fucking, you know, pencil dress?
31:13Dana Carvey:she's one of those people would be like you take one day to know her and 20 years to believe it you know because that's really that's really her yeah she's really she's not putting on a thing
31:25Adam Friedland:uh i mean on stage that's not really her she's an annoying jewish girl in real life but on stage but that's so her so her in the sense of what she wants to do it's it's so humor yeah
31:39Dana Carvey:you know but anyway that god david what did you what did you do oh i just uh much didn't really knock the richter scale i did supposed to be doing 20 i think catch rising star it was a light crowd probably half snl's that's right 10 people and then a half 10 other people and i did i did 12 minutes i think because it wasn't going that well and then um and then schneider went on snl from a bad sin yeah well they had seen me on the young comedian special so i was already foot in the door and we had the extra push of being with bernie brilstein and that that company had a lot of snl people lauren michaels was a client and they got dana like dana newest and a little bit and a dennis push so that'll help and then dennis was saying they're going to mostly look at your writing of the jokes not really if you're a polished road act.
32:35And so I think they just liked that it was like sort of a weird act. And I looked a little younger. He said it normal like that.
32:44Adam Friedland:He didn't say like that. That was like Hannibal crossing the Alps chat. He didn't say it like that way. He said it normal. He said it normal. I go, I'm a little nervous now. He goes, well, don't worry. He goes, you don't want to kill too hard. They're going to think you're some polished road dog shit act. And I go, so don't do well and they're like and you're on i'm like wait don't get loud so i go on and uh and then i got off and i'm like oh fuck it and then schneider went on then tom kenney went on and then we got a call a couple days later on a pay phone old man alert and then they were like we were waiting for a call like in the matrix yeah and they go oh it was like someone from Brillstein saying Gervitz or someone saying, oh, the good news, they're going to hire you as feature player writers.
33:33I'm like, I don't want to write. I just want to be on this fucking show. And then they go, you got to write for everybody. Like Dana, everyone's better than us. I'm like, I don't know how to write for these guys. I don't know how to write a sketch. So it took a long time, especially for me. Rob picked up a little quicker. Sandler picked up very quick.
33:50Dana Carvey:And David would sit behind me in the read-through. We're all reading the scripts and there's like 50 - Die, die. And then Lauren would always say to me, just to mess with me david's ready whenever you fall david's right there because david you know we kind of look like we're from the same tribe or he's my little brother or whatever so it was a natural thing of like it was like being in the quarterback room with like brett farve and you're like hey so you're gonna stick around another year and he's like i think i got one more of me i'm like well that's great and they
34:27Adam Friedland:they're giving great massages here at the jets so i gotta stay around for another year remember his wiener yeah i remember yeah i still talk to his wiener sometimes no i'm kidding he's been his wiener around remember this one time he sent it to some sports reporter or yeah early dick pic drama uh-huh are you an artist not really yeah oh him oh i i didn't do this but i've no well on a side i put in adam freeland and then it went to it said tour this and that and then it showed these really cool paintings he is not oh yeah i'm not no during covet i just painted a little bit yeah you have there's a painting of
35:13Dana Carvey:george w bush getting the word about 9 11. yeah i think that was the best one i did you did do those
35:19Adam Friedland:too yeah and then you did the comedian yeah and you did the comedian crying or whatever which uh
35:27Dana Carvey:which one was i don't know uh you host uh oh yeah i did this steve harvey yeah the steve harvey uh okay so i thought where am i this is a weird site so okay all right hidden talents is that
35:39Adam Friedland:i don't even know that that's still up on the internet yeah yeah i did it i did it i should
35:46Dana Carvey:get rid of that um is epstein still alive five seconds go epstein's still alive you have five
35:54Adam Friedland:seconds well if he's still alive then he's he's quite rudely ghosting me quite rudely he's getting bad press lately have you noticed he's you know it's just his anti-semitism has gone out of control you know what it is if he's alive he's gonna need one of those crisis pr people i think he definitely will kind of definitely digging out of a hole as evil as possible yeah anti-semitism is out there man yeah well actually i i did a show it was like the worst show of my life recently um but it was like sorry um richard kai did my my talk show and then he asked me to co-host a charity event i i didn't know what it meant and then like 45 minutes before they were like it's a roast of richard kind hosted by the roast master general himself mr jeff ross and i was like a row i didn't like i didn't have a set i didn't like i'm like i'm freaking out so i fart out like a like some jokes and i get there and it's just 97 year old billionaire jewish grandparents and i'm like what is this for?
37:08Adam Friedland:I was like, I don't know where I am. And I was told that Jeff Ross is going to be the roast master. So I was like, I wrote some nasty crap. Real nasty blue crap. And so I go out and then I was like, guys, I don't know if I should say this. It was a little bit crude. And they're like, say that joke. And I was like, a lot of people, like Richard Kahn changed his name when he moved to Hollywood. Like John Stewart was once named John Lebowitz and Richard Kind was once named, and I was like Zalman the Rapist. And then it just crushes. The old people like love that joke. And I was like, I was like, how is this possible?
37:54Adam Friedland:It was like, I was like, and then I'm like, you know, but relax guys. It's a family name. It's, it was Rapowitz. He was changed to ellis island and i was like in fact his grandfather moshe rapist was uh the uh the first rapist in hollywood he founded the creative artist agency and there have been uh rapists throughout the industry ever since and then it dies when i say that it's a weird crowd oh it went from a throw away to a theme oh you got a one shot you're a one-shot wonder crap i wrote in on the subway i was like, I'm freaking out. I was like, I have to get through this. And so then I'm like, you know, and then I was like, you know, it's going fine.
38:33Adam Friedland:I'm like, I'm surviving. Right. And it's actually I'm happy. I'm happy with how it's going. Yeah. I was like, I wrote a movie for Richard. Recently, I pitched him. It's called The First Jew Who Died in the Holocaust. And I was like, It's about a guy who's in line for the train to Auschwitz. And he was complaining about whether or not he could use his points for business class. Good. And, you know, they liked it. They liked it. Yeah. All the other Jews, like, take him. He's horrible. And so then the last joke's there. And then I was like, oh, I guess it's a roast. I got to go around the dais. No.
39:12Adam Friedland:So all I have left on the page. Right. I'm like, well, Jeff Garland's here from Curb Your Enthusiasm. Hey, fat fuck. and ha ha ha fat fuck then jeff ross is here like oh don't don't give me i forgot what i said we know i know what you did i had nothing right well then i look and look at the crowd and i'm like and jeff epstein's here where the hell have you been dead like dead like just the worst silence i've ever heard my entire life and horrible like you know what a joke bobs you hear a couple chuckles it's like it's like the air has left the room yeah and i'm like standing there it's the last thing i have to say and i'm like it's topical it's like that's your season the news i'm like it's not my clothes what are you talking about closer i mean that was the last thing on the page it was just the last thing on the page and i'm like and i'm like and then uh richard kind of like looks at me he's like adam i think it's because he's dead and i'm like oh i didn't mean his body is barely cold.
40:13Adam Friedland:I didn't mean to speak ill of the noted sex trafficker and pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein. And then my friend is in the crowd and this old guy turns to me and he's like, hey, I knew Jeffrey Epstein. To me, I didn't even...
40:28Dana Carvey:I got off the stage
40:31Adam Friedland:and someone was like, actually, I think he was a major donor to this organization. It's a charity that we're doing an event for right now. yeah and i was like i didn't know it was a real guy i thought it was like from the news when do they give up on this guy he's fucking they they got some data now it's it's a guy from dinner it wasn't it's just like it's a real person to them and so it's just i literally i ran away i like the idea of you on the subway going there going does anyone have rape jokes and everyone's trying to help you and something like a rom-com. Zalman the rapist they love. Yeah.
41:09You started with your closer and you - Well, Data the rapist.
41:12Adam Friedland:That's the rhythm of a great joke. Well, it just sounds like someone from like a small village in -
41:18Dana Carvey:Yeah, it's kind of quaint. You don't expect -
41:21Adam Friedland:There's like one guy that's the, yeah, the fool, the village idiot. Yeah. This guy's the rapist. Like a hunchback. He's the rapist.
41:29Dana Carvey:You know, the butcher, the rapist. Yeah, and the hunchback. a local rapist yeah standard is delicate i've done those events i neil young and ever the cry stills in ash were in the audience some kind of benefit in l.a somewhere and the same kind of thing just crickets bombs away yeah neil neil just sat there kind of stone face i mean he just he's probably waiting to go on you know but yeah neil is cool but it was just that situation you just triggered me and i know you can't he was busy searching for a heart of gold i've done so many so many uh corporate gigs where i bombed dana i don't i can't even imagine dana bombing but i guess it happens i have my tricks but i i could you know i try to levitate the room i have a sickness when i was in the clubs in the early days if you didn't kill you didn't move up and you didn't get rehired so there was just like dog eat dog must kill and must get a standing ovation must or I'm dead in the water.
42:27Dana Carvey:So I've just carried that with me. So I go to these corporate dates. I still want to kill. And it's kind of hard when they've had dinner and it's like 11. You know, it's a good bit to do. Last night I was at the comedy store and I do my set and I get off. It was either Harlan Williams or Santino is next. And I, I go, I get my applause, which is just fine. It's not crazy, but I get off and I see them about to walk on. I go, Ooh, um, encore. and then i go right back behind the curtain they think i'm going to run back on stage and they're so pissed like no i but of course i was can we ask you about so funny yeah he is just
43:05Adam Friedland:like a couple years ago and i'm like he blew my mind harlan is underrated because one of the funniest he's one of the funniest constantly kills there and you don't hear that much bob this isn't negative thing it's just it's a positive thing meaning he gets good spots and there's a reason he gets these good juicy spots he does he does well was he the one who did this stand-up special
43:30Dana Carvey:there's somebody who did one just on a mountain by themselves with no audience was that harlan somebody did that someone did that during covet didn't they do it no audience yeah the camera just came in and i thought it was harley he was just in the alone in the desert on kind of a That's how you need a hook for a special. I would be able to get laughed. That would be easier.
43:50Adam Friedland:Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter? Right? And the best part? They accept Discover. Accept Discover? In a little place like this? I don't think so, Jennifer. Oh, yeah, huh?
44:01Dana Carvey:Discover's accepted where I like to shop. Come on, baby.
44:04Adam Friedland:Get with the times. Right. So we shouldn't get the parachute pants? These are making a comeback. I think. Discover is accepted at 99 % of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen Report.
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46:17Dana Carvey:Adam, have you done a Netflix special yet? Yeah. I'm sorry that I don't know that.
46:21Adam Friedland:I kind of, I took the last year off the road to get the show up and running. because like yeah nick nick like nick uh left the show to do we were sick of podcasting and that's like how we were paying for the talk show so we both were like let's just stop doing the podcast uh and then i kind of went dark for four months hired a staff and now i'm kind of producing this talk show once a week but now i'm back on the road so i'm in philly this weekend and yeah have you had any confrontations on your podcast with big world leaders or important people uh being world leaders well i didn't have a conversation with him i got along with him really well yeah uh on the show i had this guy richie torres we had a thing that went sideways about politics you know it's just you don't want to be a major thing i i want to resist doing is like people think comedians are smart now like you know like oh yeah i don't want to speak from a position of authority in any way that i don't qualify like i could do the homework and then present that i know these things but it's a lie right instead i could rather like talk to someone and ask them ask them questions that i feel comfortable asking instead of like whenever i hear a comedian like spouting off about shit that they're trying to be smart it's like you become a blowhard right like so I don't want to do that I call it becoming a teacher
47:55Dana Carvey:like I am a stand up but I'm going to teach yeah talk about boner pills
48:02Adam Friedland:yeah exactly Norm had a really good quote once that was like they say comedians are modern day philosophers which is offensive to modern day philosophers you know like there are actual smart people in the world you know and he happened to be like one of the smartest guys you know but it's just like it's not really us we shouldn't be like uh the the thing is is like the platforms are so big now like 10 times more people are listening to rogan every day than watching cnn anything yeah so so there's like this uh you know just by virtue of the fact that the platforms are so big that they're getting a ton of attention.
48:44Adam Friedland:But for me personally, in my show, I have to make a conservative effort of like what I want to do, which is like, if so if I'm a politician, I'm not going to study up on like specific legislation, but instead I could be like, yo, like, you know, no one likes the government and everyone hates you. Like, why do you want to be in it?
49:04Dana Carvey:That's a question. Yeah.
49:06Adam Friedland:That's a question I feel comfortable asking. And then you get an interesting answer to it too, that they're not they don't have they don't have talking points they're not ready for that one yeah yeah and you do both sides when you do interviews what do you mean both sides like right left republican democrat yeah yeah yeah i've had right uh that guy scott from cnn from the argument yeah yeah yeah he's having so much fun on that show oh he is is he where he sits down and argues that he's like shut that what is that show it's just a live argument it's more people well it's
49:41Dana Carvey:kind of yeah it's like the united nations view or something yeah they get they're all agreeing with each other one after it's a circular thing yeah yeah yeah and then they come to scott oh wait a
49:52Adam Friedland:minute i mean it's kind of entertaining yeah scott's lucky because he gets half the lines Right? Yeah. There's one of him. He gets 50 % of the time. He's cooking on that show, but I had him on the show. And then I've had people on the line. I don't want to be partisan also. I have my own opinions. I'm not going to be of the left or of the right. I'm just a person. If someone says something that sounds like retard, if someone says something that sounds stupid.
50:23Dana Carvey:I think secular trends are a way to talk about politics without being political. In what way? Okay, for better or for worse, we have a$38 trillion debt. What's that about? What are we going to do with homeless people, literally, in the big cities? Stuff that should be a problem for everybody, and then it's a matter of how you want to solve it.
50:48Adam Friedland:yeah sometimes you want to be like what like what's the food like at the cafeteria in congress or like you want to be like you know like yeah you know uh how yeah someone met trump they're like yeah what were like the weird things that he showed you right you know sometimes you you kind of want to get like a three-dimensional picture of who these guys are and then you kind of see how like normal or weird the people are that are in these positions and i think like actually seeing people for who they are is actually very helpful so if i'm like asking them about even just like you know their backgrounds like i had one politician on and i was like talking to his comms team and i was like you know does he like does he play guitar i was like i can't find anything and they were like he likes walking around and uh and hot dogs and i was like he sounds like the btk killer i was like you guys have to make something up everyone everyone's gonna get him a tattoo or a snake i mean this is walking around and hot dog yeah they don't know
51:55Dana Carvey:anything they are nothing and it's it's you give them power if you have a financial advisor they use all these funny terms to kind of ravis mitajou they're just dudes in a room they you know they're take taking a shit fuck these people yeah never give experts power you know especially with modern day information you know i don't know i think they we just they need to do a good job probably
52:19Adam Friedland:yeah it doesn't seem like they're doing a good good job a lot of them have they ever i don't know yeah i think they've done a good job a couple times maybe well maybe we are doing a better
52:30Dana Carvey:job like the civil rights act that was pretty good i guess yeah maybe this is the best it gets you because people go, no,
52:37Adam Friedland:it's very trashy. It's very, it's like they wear hoodies and stuff. Now I, we got to bring back the Yale guys that do like satanic blood rituals. Like it was, at least it was class. Did they ever really go away? At least it was classy. Yeah. You go on Facebook live and have a meltdown at a CVS and be in Congress like six months later. Yeah, it's a little white trash. It's like, yeah, they used to have class. They used to kill Kennedy. Hey, they had class. They'd kill the president. They'd kill the brother. But they had class. Yeah. All right. We're ending on that because that's a good uproar. I'm trying to get you a good closer.
53:18Are you on the way to the airport? Yeah. Oh, guys, I've been like a 10-year-old so nervous, and I hope you've enjoyed it.
53:28Adam Friedland:But genuinely speaking, my legends. I mean, genuinely. First of all, I don't take compliments well. I didn't react earlier. I really, really i want to say your dick when i if we meet i will go just on my knees and just fillate you in public in private done data okay you know we always say we're not gonna do these things but
53:48Dana Carvey:let's do it here's what we're gonna do here's what we're gonna do on may 9th netflix is a joke you're at the region theater yeah we're gonna get a ticket first one dave and i we're gonna be we're not to let you know but we're going to be sitting in the back and right before you go on they're going to go spade and carve you here they want to see what you got yeah some jokes might sound familiar
54:12Adam Friedland:from our act my chopping broccoli opener my chopping i love it when people do yeah yeah but the other broccoli called broccolina yeah i have a big joe dirt closer that i've been doing
54:29Dana Carvey:a dicky roberts chunk in full costume bandy formers yeah thank you for coming
54:36Adam Friedland:can i ask you a sincere question sure do you think grown-ups two is better than one that's a whole nother podcast um okay i will tell you in person two is one of the funniest movies of all time you like two better i like two better okay i'm a two With Tommy Boy and Black Sheep, it's 90 % Tommy Boy. With Grown Ups and Grown Ups 2, it's almost 50-50. We'll get into it. Yeah, we'll.
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