Chris Rock LIVE in LA

14 May 2026 · 1 h 16 min · 26 chapters

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In short

Chris Rock’s live stand-up special recorded at the Orpheum Theater in Los Angeles, plus behind-the-scenes stories from his career (SNL, In Living Color, movies, HBO specials) and celebrity interactions.

Guests

None. The episode is Chris Rock performing, with occasional off-mic hosts/crew voices from the recording setting.

Guest backgrounds (if any)

Not applicable—no named guests appear in the transcript.

Key claims

  • He says he learned a lot from the audience and that this is a “new version” of Chris Rock Live in LA (not a repeat).
  • He describes multiple Michael Jackson encounters, including a story where a director called him to remove a joke from a video.
  • He claims his career resurgence came from being forced back into stand-up after Living Color ended, and that he recorded and reviewed his sets.
  • He says he got his HBO special Bigger and Blacker after Madonna canceled a Cuba special at the last minute.

Notable examples

  • Michael Jackson: he was called by MJ during an Oscars-era interaction; another story involves MJ’s director getting a late-night call to remove Chris’s joke.
  • Comedy Store lineup: Dave Chappelle, Shane Gillis, Louis C.K., Kanye West, and Chris performing in sequence.
  • Celebrity stories: Michael Jordan at McDonald’s; Steven Seagal’s “wish Arnold was here” comment; Tiger Woods needing a driver; Met Gala and rich-people boat culture.
  • Film/TV: Bring the Pain, Bigger and Blacker (Apollo), Beverly Hills Ninja, Madagascar (turning down), and his upcoming directed film Misty Green.

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Chapters

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Memories of Michael Jackson

3:55 to 6:32

Chris and the hosts share nostalgic stories about Michael Jackson.

“No, we decided where's the most dangerous place we can do this, and what's the farthest.”

Michael Jackson's Influence

6:32 to 9:19

Discussion on Michael Jackson's impact in the entertainment industry.

“I don't know if we're going to keep getting applause off that.”

Comedy Store Stories

9:19 to 14:00

Chris shares experiences from the comedy circuit and encounters with famous personalities.

“And I was like, and he goes, anyway, good seeing you.”

Kanye's Unique Style and SNL Memories

14:00 to 16:50

Explore Dana and David's humorous reflections on Kanye West’s style and their SNL experiences.

“So I said, some lady just walked by in a full yoga or ballerina outfit.”

Chris Rock's Top Rappers and Personal Stories

20:09 to 23:24

Chris Rock shares his evolving list of top rappers and recounts his experiences with Tupac.

“When you talk about either top five of the movie, are your top five rappers the same top five as they were when you filmed top five?”

Memorable Encounters in Show Business

23:24 to 28:00

Dana and David discuss their encounters with iconic figures in entertainment, including Steven Seagal.

“And he was like, why'd you talk about Suge?”

Arnold and Seagal: A Comedic Rivalry

28:00 to 29:09

Learn about the comedic tensions and stories involving Arnold Schwarzenegger and Steven Seagal.

“So for 72 hours, he was steamed about that sketch.”

Starstruck Moments: Meeting Michael Jordan

29:10 to 30:24

Explore the excitement and stories of meeting Michael Jordan and the impact he had on the hosts.

“No, you know who else, but I thought, you know who else I was a little starstruck by?”

The Met Gala: Behind the Scenes

30:25 to 33:05

Discover the experience and dynamics at the Met Gala, as shared by the hosts.

“I did Lethal Weapon 4 with Mel Gibson before the, you know...”

Life Lessons from Stand-Up Comedy

33:06 to 37:19

Get insights on how financial pressures can lead to personal and professional growth in comedy.

“Well, I guess you should have a full-time driver.”
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The Journey from SNL to Stand-Up Success

37:20 to 42:00

Learn about Chris Rock's career journey and the evolution of his stand-up style.

“Was it their last season or close to the end?”

Comedian Growth Through Relationships

42:00 to 43:38

Learn how personal relationships can influence a comedian's growth and perspective.

“that other comedians respect as soon as I walk in the room.”

The Impact of Cable TV on Fame

43:38 to 45:32

Discover the significance of cable TV in shaping Chris Rock's career.

“And it got a lot of awards and recognition.”

Navigating Success After Fame

45:32 to 47:19

Explore Chris Rock's journey after his breakout special and the challenges faced.

“Now what was your next move after you got big from bring the pain?”

The Business Side of Comedy Specials

47:19 to 49:36

Understand the financial aspects and negotiations involved in comedy specials.

“So those two specials are kind of like a year apart or a year and a half apart.”

Memorable Movie Experiences

53:45 to 56:00

Chris Rock shares anecdotes from iconic films and his experiences in Hollywood.

“See homedepot.com slash price match for details.”

Chris Rock's Latest Film: Misty Green

56:00 to 56:52

Chris Rock discusses his new film, its plot, and cast details.

“My kids don't know nothing I've done and could care less.”

The Acting Process with Adam Driver

56:52 to 58:21

Insight into working with talented actors like Adam Driver and their methods.

“Yeah, so that's, yeah, that, what am I trying to say?”

Working with Legendary Actors

58:21 to 1:02:10

Discussion on experiences with iconic actors and their unique approaches.

“But if it's not, you know, I'm going to trust Adam Driver.”

AI's Impact on the Creative Industry

1:02:10 to 1:04:26

Chris Rock shares thoughts on AI's role in writing and its consequences.

“All right, let's just hear hot takes on society.”

Celebrity Encounters and Observations

1:04:26 to 1:07:14

Humorous anecdotes about celebrity interactions and social dynamics.

“We'd like to thank Chris's digital copy for being here.”

Chris Rock's Journey in Comedy Clubs

1:07:14 to 1:10:00

Chris Rock reflects on his early career and the comedy club experience.

“Is this also a tell when Brad Pitt comes in, a woman might just kind of just do this?”

Eddie Murphy's Prophetic Influence

1:10:00 to 1:12:00

Learn about Chris Rock's early experiences in comedy and how Eddie Murphy foresaw his success.

“So, and that is like, you're a top comic, right?”

Meeting Adam Sandler

1:12:00 to 1:14:10

Chris Rock shares his initial perceptions and eventual friendship with Adam Sandler.

“A movie that I saw four times the day it came out.”

Different Backgrounds and Auditions

1:14:10 to 1:16:30

Explore the contrasting backgrounds of Chris Rock and Adam Sandler as they audition for SNL.

“Well, he was with all those guys he writes with now were there.”

Reflections on Early Careers

1:16:30 to 1:18:40

Dana and Chris reflect on their journeys in comedy and their time on SNL.

“Farley auditioned because we auditioned at the Improv, and he was around the corner at Second City.”
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2:20Guys, we got an exciting one. This is not a repeat. This is a new version of Chris Rock live at the Orpheum Theater, which we shot and had a blast. Always fun with an audience, especially with Chris. Yes. and we were out there in three chairs. We had our cameras. Pretty big audience. I mean, Netflix is a joke. It's like 18 million shows. But Chris was great. We learned a lot. We went in some places that were very funny. I mean, he just has a lot of stories that involve a lot of well-known people. There were some pretty fascinating things. We were pulling some names out of them. And God, we went back to SNL again.

3:01We always do that. But there's always something. we went back to pre-SNL how he met Sandler old Eddie Murphy stuff where he met Eddie a lot of great stuff that I don't remember doing that in the first time we talked about it no no I learned a lot and he was great we had a great time we're gonna now tell you know repeat some of the main jokes so you go ahead no we're not but I have to say I did laugh a lot he didn't walk through it He came in in a good mood, excited. The crowd was into it. And it's one of those fun ones where you just start laughing. And we're just kind of all over the place cracking each other up.

3:44Yep. Great time. No further ado. Yeah. What do you call it? No further ado? Is that the phrase? Close enough. With no further ado. Without further ado. The one and only Chris Rock. Almost over. Almost over. Almost over. 20 minutes. You're over here. You're over here. Now he gets suspicious. Mine's what? Funny. Wow. Wow. Those people. Okay. Hello. Hi. There you go. Can you see? Wow. Downtown. We are not doing stand-up. Just so you know. Everyone pours out. No, we decided where's the most dangerous place we can do this, and what's the farthest. And it took some work. Ted Sarando said, 6 o 'clock, way downtown.

4:42I said, Teddy, I am in, brother. So, Chris, thanks for coming. I'm here. I'm here because I want to be here. This has nothing to do with my contractual obligation. Of course not Netflix and Ted Sarandos Three Nothing to do with that Nothing to do with my three special deal Yeah And a pod Well we appreciate you coming Chris is one of my good buddies A little background on him We did the old SNL together That's where I met him Such a Legitimately one of my Best buds in the showbiz world and would do anything for this guy. So I'm really glad to see him in general. It's good to see him here. Dana's fine, but it's...

5:3791. It's all right. 91. I know, I don't like to tell the exact numbers. 91, Michael Jackson was alive. Yep. And you just got out of high school. And an outstanding citizen. Michael Jackson was killing you. You're right. 91 was a good... I waited on Michael Jackson as a busboy waiter in 1975. Get out of here. And I would bring him a plate of raw carrots. And they were playing the Circle Star Theater, the Jackson 5. And there he was. A plate of raw carrots? Raw carrots. And he would look in a mirror. Was he fucking rabbits? I don't know. Janet was jumping up and down on the bed. She's like eight years old.

6:17I go, please don't do that. Oh, they were that small. Yeah, he was probably 14 or 15. Wow. Yeah. And he was looking in the mirror and I brought him the carrots and I got kind of familiar and I said, you know, you could do a little something. And I just dropped it. I felt terrible. That was pretty good. Long way to go. Wow. Joe Jackson ordered. Chris Rock is our guest. Yes. Oh. I don't know if we're going to keep getting applause off that. We're going to keep trying. Joe Jackson ordered three eggs and a belt. Anyway, I saw the movie. No, wait, I'll tell you a Michael Jackson story, Chris So, 91, when you came in, what was your first impression of Sorry, I didn't know, were you starting?

6:59I didn't The monitors have a lot of reverb I feel like it's really kicking back The mics are a little hot I don't know, I can't really understand what you're saying So that's not a good thing, I guess No It is, Rock, you know more about this Are we getting a lot of kickback on these monitors or something? a sound engineer. It feels echoey. Did you guys do a sound check? Wouldn't that be great? Yeah, that's what I do normally. Wouldn't that be professional? No, we just forgot about the sound check. I just didn't have time. No, it's wonderful. I left my house at noon. I was planning on getting there for a sound check.

7:46Oh, someone's screaming already. We've just added a second show. That's unbelievable. You guys can stay. No, I was going to tell you a story that is so uninteresting, but I'm going to tell it. I did. This is my only brief Michael Jackson sex story. No, this is just my brief interactions. I was out in town. I had a joke about Michael Jackson when I first moved out here. Just throwaway joke. and then the director of his videos uh was uh was doing his latest one liberian girl which wasn't a super banger but it was on the director of three amigos no god i can't remember his name filmophiles he did a lot of commercials and stuff anyway uh jim yukic maybe um anyway so he says hey i'm doing this video and we're just having all cameos it was like dan ackerman it was like big stars and he goes do you want to be in it you just we're just talking and doing stuff you could just say your joke so I said some stupid joke about it but I was so excited to be in it and then I wasn't in the video and then I saw the director maybe three years ago and I said hey he goes do you remember me I was the director of that video you did and I go oh yeah I wasn't in it and he goes oh that's right he goes you know what funny story I didn't want to hear it he goes I Michael would never talk to me about editing but I showed him a cut and he called me in the middle of the night and said, hey, who's David Spade?

9:10And he goes, oh, he's a comedian and he just had a joke about you. So he put it in there and he goes, take him out. And he goes, that was the only note for the whole video. Take me out. And I was like, and he goes, anyway, good seeing you. And I'm like, well now, that's what I got to live with about Michael Jackson. So anyway, we got time for one more. I got my Michael Jackson story. Oh, you got a Michael Jackson story? This one will be way better. We got cut out. Chris, you're up. My Michael Jackson story, it's a weird... Okay, I got two. Okay. No, no. The first time I hosted the Oscars, there was, like, a crew guy, a guy in the crew, like a gaffer or something.

9:53And I guess he used to work at Michael's house or whatever, because Michael always did all sorts of stuff. And the guy literally gave me his phone. Somebody wants to talk to you. Oh, wow. And he gives me the phone saying, Hey, Chris, it's Michael. Break a leg, okay? And that was it. That's better than mine already, yeah. That's fucking cool, though. A man of very few words, but to the point. When was that? How long ago? It was the first time I hosted, so yeah. Because I remember when he passed away, was in the Woodman's chocolate wasted scene in Grown Ups. Yeah, we were in the, yeah. Yeah, on the picnic tables.

10:34We went to lunch, and someone said it. I don't think we had Instagram or anything, but someone, the rumor went around where I was like, oh my God, he just passed away. And I remember Mama Rizzoni, your mother-in-law in the movie? Yes. Was very sad. It was hitting her very hard and I told her it wasn't for sure that it was just a rumor because she had to have a softer landing. She was totally already started crying. She was really bad. Yeah. But that was in grownups. Applause. Thank you. 181 million domestic. 3 ,000 million. You guys all got a car from Adam, I understand. Where's your car? Did you get a car?

11:13I prefer money, but yeah. But we did get a car. You got a car. What kind of car? Everyone loves your feel-good stories about rich people getting richer. You star in the movie, you're globally famous, and you get a car. Yes. Nice. Everyone's like, oh, good for them. Yeah, definitely, right. In the homeless capital of the world. Don't believe me. Walk outside. Anyway. We're literally inside. India is outside. We stumbled into India. So I heard the other night you guys all went to the comedy store. I missed out. It sounds like fun. So you rolled with a pretty fun crew. The comedy store is always fun like Comedy Cellar when you go in.

12:04There's tons of comics. But because this is the festival They're all kind of smashed in And when they're lost Or don't have a sense of direction You can always go to the comedy store And so you went in I heard it was you, Chappelle Kanye, Louis Did anybody go on Or did you just go in there to go watch? Wait, Kanye West and Louis C.K.? Yes The cancelled all-stars Because Dave Chappelle

12:30Somehow Rushmore of cancelled It fits somehow How do you fit into that group? I don't understand that Chris is the nicest guy You don't fit I, you know I'm like Ludacris I'm cool with everybody Sure So you go in Do you watch Or do you just Does anybody go on? Dave went on Shane Gillis too Shane Gillis Why not? Another home run hitter He's doing very well He's doing alright So yeah Dave went on Shane Louie Then me then Dave comes on and brings out Kanye. What was his McDonald's bit? People, I mean, Kanye's like, I remember when people would do Letterman and he was just so famous. Somebody said it was like sitting next to a$5 bill, you know?

13:23Yeah. And Kanye, you're like, is that a wax figure of Kanye? Like, he's just that famous. Like, is that the real guy? Yeah, is that the real guy, yeah. And what does he say up there? He's not saying much. Yeah. He gets away with low effort. Right now, he's not saying much. But he's a firebrand. Talking about his love of Seinfeld. Yeah.

13:51Yeah. It's funny. One time I was at the Chateau. Chris, I was at the Chateau about two months ago. And then a girl walked by and I go, So I said, some lady just walked by in a full yoga or ballerina outfit. And then I go, I wonder if there's something going on here. And then I saw Kanye and I go, oh, that's his wife. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And it kind of made sense. Like this is she dresses in a unique like she's always going to the Met or something. Yeah. But it's weird if you talk to her, she's so smart. It's like talking to Diane Sawyer. Really? With huge tits. Yeah.

14:33Okay, let's all visualize that for a second. I like, she's like... Yeah, I got it. Good. Beautiful. I kind of, when you meet him, I met him at SNL on the 40th, and him and Kim came around, and they both had deep blue eyes, and I just thought, shit, I guess they have blue eyes. I didn't think they had contacts. It was really weird. Yeah, that was just a blue-eye night, you know? Yeah. Remember when... Do you remember when... I'm doing Chris Farley. You remember when he was going to attack me and Mike? We were doing Wayne's World. We had Kanye. They had people holding him back like he was going to attack us.

15:07I remember that. Was it a joke? It was only 10 years ago. Was he mad? No, he was fake mad. He was great in the sketch. Oh, did he host? No, no. It was the 40th at the end of the 40th anniversary. Sorry. I didn't make the 50th. The plane was late. Oh, are you going to go to the 60th? But Lauren will be 112. It's that thing of like, you know, Lauren always said, don't stop. He always said that to me. You never stop. And he said Sidney Poitier told that to him. And then he stopped.

15:47Did Sidney Poitier stop? I got nothing. This is podcasting. No, you got a lot. We're getting paid right now. I did a song with Kanye. I did. Anyway, anyway. Well, what do you mean you did a song? Let's hear a couple bars. No, no, no. I just, I'm on one of those albums, one or two of them. Do you talk or do you sing? I just talk. I just talk. There's a song called Blame Game. And, um. Yeah. There's a song called Blame Game. He coached me two four-hour sessions in the studio that he cut down to about three minutes or two minutes. And, yeah, he's kind of a genius. So, you know, whatever. I did that.

16:30Is it hard to stay focused talking to him or is he he's probably interesting guy, right? Oh, no, he's very interesting guy. Oh, he did. He did something that was brilliant. I don't know if he was the first one, but he'd have people sampling beats and rhythms and stuff. And he would just walk around, listen, change that, do that, get this, go with that, you know. So he's got an ear. That's what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah. So lately, I've been trying to be more intentional with my wardrobe, if you know what that means. I like that. Yeah. Choosing pieces that are comfortable enough for everyday life, but still feel put together with not a lot of effort.

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20:09When you talk about either top five of the movie, are your top five rappers the same top five as they were when you filmed top five? My top five rappers. They've probably changed since top five of the movie. I don't know. I would put Kanye number one. I would, I don't know, Kanye. I'm really loving Kendrick. I The Kanye Kendrick I mean God Top 5 Tupac didn't like me You got one hour Wait a minute That's a chapter Tupac didn't like me Tupac did not like me See eye to eye on everything Snoop Snoop's very underrated but he could get everybody up. J. Cole. He's the most popular man in America. Okay.

21:06And then... Does Eminem get any sugar? Then Jay-Z. Then Eminem. Interesting. Just on the outskirts. I'll go Ice Cube then Eminem. I like Eminem. Eminem's fine. Eminem's to be listened to. You know what I mean? Eminem's strictly for your car. He's not like... What could you and Tupac not get along about? That sounds so funny. It was weird. It was... Because I had the same problem. I was just like... I rubbed him wrong. I mean, A, you know, it's always the same shit fucking the same girls, right? That's the first thing, right? Oh. It's always like... Yeah, I saw her. Whatever, right? He always won that battle.

21:51But, no, I remember one year at the MTV Awards, I presented some award. Uh-oh. And Suge Knight was in the audience, and I did, like, some joke about Suge or whatever the fuck. And then there was an after party at Bryant Park. And, you know, and I just had that special Bring the Pain. And Kanye and... Big one. And Tupac was like, what's up with all that niggas and black people shit? And he kind of stepped to me, but I didn't... Tupac was not that big. Everybody... He photographs big, but he's not that big. So I was like... You know, I was pretty skinny. I'm still pretty skinny. So a skinny guy can't wait to fight a skinny guy.

22:41You know what I mean? You're like, really? But nothing happened. Nothing happened. But we definitely had a little like, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was definitely some meme mugging going on. And I remember that. I just remember that night everybody was scared of Suge. And like Eric B., remember Eric B. and Rakim? And Eric. It's like Eric B. used to live in my neighborhood. And he was such a big drug dealer that he, like before he had a record out, The guy had a Rolls Royce on fucking, on like Myrtle Avenue, okay? Like that kind of drug dealer. That's good. And he was like, why'd you talk about Suge?

23:27I'm like, if this guy is scared of Suge, we're all in trouble. I think even white people knew to be scared of Suge. Hammer was like, why'd you do that? Hammer. MC Hammer? MC Hammer, yeah, yeah, yeah. MC Hammer. I've met them all. Yeah. I'm like Black Gump, man. I've met them all. I've been through every, so many weird eras of show business. Shit, was Hammer the host to Ant Music? Eddie Murphy, Michael Jackson. Does anyone you... Kurt Colbain didn't meet? We met Kurt Colbain. Oh, you did meet Kurt? Oh, wow. You were there, were you? We met Kurt Colbain a bunch of times. I hosted the MTV Music Awards when they were on.

24:10Oh, yeah. Where the guy threw the bass up and almost fell on his head. I once went to a black church with Courtney Love, okay? Now, black women get mad when they see you with a white girl anytime. But when you walk into a black church with Courtney Love... What were you thinking? Whose idea was it? They're like literally cursing, like, what the goddamn fuck is going on? what the god damn fuck yeah i remember kurt and courtney sitting on the on the ground by the page desk in that hallway just between songs and just hanging out on the floor uh the i think they they were in music twice and one time i definitely remember that i definitely seeing them in the cafeteria we had dinner after they rehearsed yeah yeah and just but you didn't know i mean no one knew it was big the second time they came on their bigger deal but it's definitely fun when you're back there and you see all the hosts or music that you love and then they're just stuck talking who's the host when you were there that kind of blew you away or nervous to meet kind of um because it's weird an snl you just you're in your office or something the host is in up front and then they'll say, Charlton Heston would like to say hello.

25:33You're like, what? You know, I mean, some of those non-separated. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. They were all big stars. Just some, I remember being, and the guy's always been great, but I couldn't believe how talented Tom Hanks was. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. You know, you'd be at the read-through, and he could do like nine different voices, and, you know, and he was reading everything, coal and he was just crushing everything you're like sometimes you realize this is why they're famous yeah because you go some people would bring real star there's like a star power about them like you know this person's a star and then there's some that's sort of flatline during the week and i go i don't get it even you can just see them read sketches and you go they got nothing i mean it's hard to do the show it's hard to read my favorite was steven seagal uh oh yeah Yeah.

26:28No, no. Steven Seagal comes on. Okay, so there's this, the legends of Steven Seagal was, he was a bodyguard for Mike Ovitz or something. Yeah, the age of Tai Chi. Tai Chi or whatever. Martial artists, yeah. Whatever. So he's like this kind of movie, kind of like this B movie star. And C, C, thank you. C, B was a little strong. D plus. She's like, Scott Bale's B, and he's under Scott. I personally really like Scott Bale. I like Scott. I like Scott. Anyway, and I remember he's at the read-through table, and he's at the front, and it's time to read the first sketch, and Steven Seagal picks up this thing and starts to read, and And you realize at that moment, he's never auditioned for anything in his life.

27:28Oh, yeah. You realize at that moment, there is really a mafia. And they literally shoved this guy in a fucking movie. Yeah. Cole reading is hard to do anyway. It's hard anyway. And you're in front of all these people. What was the one with Tommy Lee Jones on the boat? Even Trump's like, pick it up. Pick it up. so you know when we were when he came on uh kevin and i did hans and fronds at the read-through thank you and we were making fun and steven was just buttoned out and he's got the script and we're doing stuff like arnold could definitely flick you with his little little finger and you would fly across the room and land in your own baby pool flabalanche and he's just like this reading yes okay right you know that kind of stuff so then we're rehearsing on 8h on thursday just like here basically we read the scene he doesn't he's never said a word whether he liked or didn't like the sketch he gets on the show and then we cut for a rehearsal he walks off way off to the side and he's just staring up the bleachers i don't know what he's doing i'll go over and talk to him and say steven are you okay and this is the quote exactly like this not looking at me I just wish Arnold was here so I could kick his fucking ass.

28:46So for 72 hours, he was steamed about that sketch. And I did tell Arnold six months later in Santa Monica in a restaurant with a Foucault cigar with all the Austrian guys around him. I go, Steven Seagal says he'd kick your ass, you know. And Arnold just leaned back and went, is that the fact? It's true, absolutely true, not a bit. Is that the fact? Then he blew smoke greens. It's still girly, man. You got a Steven Seagal story? No, you know who else, but I thought, you know who else I was a little starstruck by? It was Michael Jordan. Oh, yeah. Michael Jordan was the biggest host of our time. Yeah, definitely.

29:29And he was still playing, right? Was he still playing? Oh, yeah. It was before baseball. Did we go to McDonald's with Michael Jordan? Oh, we did. We went down and went to McDonald's underneath. knees we went to mcdonald's what a lifetime bucket list thing and i spaced it we went down and he goes let's all go yeah like during rehearsal let's all run down yeah he was special you and i used to go to mcdonald's all the time that's why we're so malnutritioned i ate there so much we never made that much money and it was always like scraping but uh i did remember that we went there and there's that sketch in the 50s where rob was the announcer oh they're really giving the referee is the business and we were an all-white team we didn't want michael on our team remember that and he's like at halftime going can someone pass me the ball did you guys have any interaction with michael like personal i i don't remember i mean i he was so intimidating because he was a sweetheart he was sweet but it was just like he came up to me and he goes uh do you golf and i go well a little bit you know what do you shoot I go I'm terrible I don't know I maybe a hundred or something and he just paused and he's very serious he goes um well you're not very good are you he wants to bet no I'm not anyway he was he was the other one was Mel Gibson when Mel Gibson in his handsome prime hosted I'd never seen the staff the women on the staff get that crazy Do you remember that?

31:03Well, I was not there for Mel Gibson. And he is a hottie. I did a movie. I did a... You did... Oh, you did Lethal Weapon. Lethal Weapon. I did Lethal Weapon 4 with Mel Gibson before the, you know... Sugar tits. Just another guy that really loves Seinfeld right about now.

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31:31There's a theme. I love this theme. Yeah. Go Wikipedia. Ask Jack TVT. You got to be canceled for me to be friends with you. Why do celebrities who drink not get a driver? Or an Uber. Or anything. Or a Waymo. Why is Tiger Woods still? See you later. I'm taking the Oldsmobile. I mean, take the keys away. I think too many. I knew Tiger was in trouble. he was that you know had the whole cheating and whatever and his wife beat up the thing then he had a press conference with all his friends and he apologized now right Tiger's black and Asian and he has a press conference with his friends and none of them are black or Asian what are they I was like okay sometimes if you're that famous you gotta have a Mario Joyner in there somewhere you gotta Somebody No but Steve Harvey I don't know Somebody Somebody Come on It's like Not one But if he's doing Some things That he If he's that level of fame I think He just doesn't want A witness You know what I mean You don't want someone Knowing what you're doing Hearing you talk on the phone And just quietly Taking an info Doesn't work Because he has the money to hire a new driver twice a day.

33:03Is that the fix? You drive in the morning, now you're out. Well, I guess you should have a full-time driver. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, yeah. You can't have a full-time driver. And you're not paying them to drive. You're paying them to shut the fuck up. Exactly. Exactly. Everybody can drive. I can't find anyone who'll shut the fuck up. But only the good ones can shut the fuck up. Yeah. Right. And if they're deaf and mute, it's better. How you doing, Mr. Rock? Ooh, you got three prostitutes. I ain't seeing nothing. Yeah. I love fake driving. It's like 1941 without power steering. All right, Tiger, we're going to the cause now.

33:47That's what you're paying for. Silence. That was a good topic. That was a good topic. Hey, it's your podcast You've been busy I can't believe it I got exhausted I'm just here, man Why were you at the Met Gala? I was looking for you Um, I don't know You didn't have anything stupid enough to wear I went last year I didn't go to show Who wore it best? Who wore it best? I went last year I didn't go to show I've been a couple of times Do you wear something weird Or just a tux? Um, just a tux Just a tux I've been a couple of times I still don't know what it's for Is there anything after those stairs?

34:27because once they get to that, I would just go home. Yeah, it's nothing. I got invited last year, and the year before that, I was trying to save a relationship. Oh. Oh, really? Interesting. Hey, maybe if I take her to the Met Ball. Nope. Yeah. Maybe I'm going to take you around more famous people. That's the tough one. Yeah, yeah. What goes on? I mean, we only see the red carpet, right? Right. And then what goes on after that? You eat shrimp. You eat shrimp. You can't eat shrimp. A lot of rich people. A lot of rich, techie, white people. They're like, ooh, this is Bob Zaminga, and his family owns the button.

35:22They invented the button? This is like all the buttons on the world. You ever heard about buttons? They own all the buttons on earth. Yeah. If you're nice to him, he'll let you on his boat. Yeah. You got to have a boat. He gets a piece of every button. Kelly Blue Blay and her family owns green. Just a color green. Yeah. Jeff Bezos has a$500 million, what, a million dollar boat. it's like a thousand foot long it's got a sail, it's got another boat behind it he's selling it because quote it draws too much attention God bless maybe it's the five I do like his wife though Lauren Sanchez, you gotta root for that I've known Lauren a little while have you been on that one?

36:14I have not been on that boat have you been on George Lucas's? have you been on Geffen's boat? I've been on some boats I like I got no problem with a boat invitation Yes You'd rather float than sink Hey I tell some jokes And I, you know Get on boats And I get on some boats You get on boats What You don't have to say the name of the owner But what's the best boat you've been on That you were in Holy shit They're all nice They're all They're all nice And it's You know To be black And to get on a boat leisurely Is a Is a Okay It's a great thing It's like Okay It's like ooh I'm up top You know Chris I don't know if you're working On your stand up But you've got You've got at least Four bangers in here That you can extend It's working And this is being recorded I'm up top But that is a great line I'm like ooh You go to Met Galas You go to the Oscars You go on boats You're living I just know My kids are grown I go out Yeah I know you Get out the house You would get a tuna sandwich And you're just in a sketch And now, good lord Look at us I found it kind of interesting That you did SNL and then you did In Living Color And then you were sort of I think you did a movie or something You're just sort of in it like this And then you did Bring the Pain And I remember watching it And went, oh, something's happened Like something new happened With that special Because I think you said you weren't serious At least that's the quote I have You weren't serious I left SNL.

37:53I went to Living Color.

37:58How was it Living Color? Was it their last season or close to the end? It was their last season. Of course, as soon as I get there, the Waynes quit. They were a big part of that. That's just the luck of me. You know what I mean? But what a bummer. The Waynes quit the show. They are the show. Yeah. Well, you had Jim Carrey, right? Yeah. You've got Jim Carrey. You've got a show. That's me. So I get there because I felt, I don't know, I just felt a cultural shift. But then that show gets canceled. And so I got no job. I got no job, no TV job, you know, that good TV money. What happened was I bought a house in Brooklyn.

38:42And I bought a carriage house that I would later lose a divorce. But anyway, I bought a carriage house. Sorry. Everyone loses a carriage house and a divorce at some point. At some point. And I don't know. I just had a big-ass mortgage, and I had to do more shows. Okay. And when I did more shows, I got fucking better. And at some point, my brother, I'm not going to say the comedian, because that would be disrespectful, but me and my brother went to see a comedian at Radio City. Right. and like normal people. Like we made some calls and we got some tickets. And... I'm a comedian, right? And a car.

39:27I can count on one hand the amount of times I've sat in an audience for a comedy show, right? Right. And I left the show. I thought it was great. I thought the show was great. The show was great. But my brother, my brother Andre, goes, you're better than that guy. Get the fuck out of here. and it hadn't occurred to me. It's like when the, sometimes the kid that's getting bullied gets bigger than the bully. Yeah, yeah. And doesn't realize it yet. Right. So right around that time, it took my brother telling me that I was better to actually snap me out of this thing. And this was kind of a national headliner.

40:07This was... And then, like, yeah, then, you know, it's like one of those Rocky montages where I'm just knocking motherfuckers out. Like, I'm just like, I was just, I had gotten a lot better just from trying to pay for this house. Yeah. I got really good. That's great. So get a big mortgage. Yeah. Everyone's like, we got that part down. And then go to a comedy club. Yeah. And, you know. Yeah, but I was out of show business. I mean, put it this way, too. I had given up. I'd been in a few movies. I'd been on Siren Live. I'd been on Living Color. I kind of thought I was done as far as, like, being a famous person.

40:44Right. Right. Right? So my concern, not even a concern, I was like, okay, I love stand-up. And all I wanted out of stand-up, and this is like, this guy's a big star, but all I wanted out of stand-up was to be George Wallace. Okay. Like, George Wallace, to me, was like... A great stand-up. A great stand-up. Always works. This guy crushes every night. Never want to follow George Wallace. He would come into the club. The only other black guy, by the way. And he had great suits on. Yeah. And he had a fucking Cadillac. And he was opening for bands in Vegas and whatnot. And he was the only guy I knew that was so organized.

41:30He had like a real schedule. Like he didn't work in the summer. Like he would actually vacation and he had houses here and there. And I was like, man, if I could just be like George Wallace. than my dream. That's what I wanted. He took it seriously. He was good. But that guy was like a Jedi. He wasn't thinking about being on TV or a sitcom or a movie. He was killing. That guy was a focused comedian. It was like, okay, that's what I want to be. I want to be a focused, great comedian that other comedians respect as soon as I walk in the room. Well, that's what I wanted to ask you because Gaffigan, Jim Gaffigan, Jerry Seinfeld, these are they get with the tape or they get their notes.

42:13I mean, Jerry gets nervous. He needs that one hour a day with his notes. Were you like that or was it just the reps on stage? Or did you record it and listen? Because that's very painful to do for a comedian. I would record it. I would listen the next day. Okay. I mean, also it was one of those, you know, I'll give this, me and my ex-wife go back and forth. I, you know, I was like, yes, I had been on Saturday Night Live. I'd been in New Jack City. I was, you know, a mini millionaire at the time. But when I met her, I grew as a person. You know what I mean? Because I'd never really had a relationship, a grown-up relationship.

42:53So as I was growing up as a person, I was growing up as a comic, you know? So I just saw the world in a bigger, wider way. and the better I, you know, and it, I, I lucked up, you know what I mean? I, I lucked up in the sense that, you know, wow, fuck, I've been around a long time. So I'm, you know, I guess there's shandling, but I'm one of the first cable stars, you know what I mean? Like, right. You know what I mean? Like it was, it was a, when I broke, it was not from television at all. It wasn't from normal TV at all. It was from cable TV. So I was like this HBO thing. HBO is Bring the Pain.

43:41And it got a lot of awards and recognition. It was a big thing. Critics loved it. And for some reason, you know, it's just a joke. Stixson, you had something about peanut butter and jelly in the same jar. I don't know why. I never forgot that. I don't know why. What is that joke? We were so poor. My mother used to buy the peanut butter and the jelly in the same jar. That's like buying a shoe with a sock sold inside. Call it a shock. Call it a shock. When did you do Ninja with Farley? I did Beverly Hills Ninja with Chris Farley. That was like me being. Was that when you were, that was before Bring the Pain?

44:26That was, that was after Living Color. That was me broke as fuck Well you take it for the money right I'll just go do it Oh wait a minute this guy I used to share an office with Gets 10 million dollars a picture or so He was like what the fuck What the fuck happened here That was after Tommy Boy We did that I had a lot of fun doing it Here's the funny thing about that movie I was horrible in that movie Well, initially, right? So I was cut out of the whole movie. Like, you were cut out of the Michael Jackson. Yeah. I'm cut out of the whole movie. Bring the Pain comes on HBO. And suddenly they put me back in the whole movie.

45:17They cut you back in? Wow. Suddenly everything I did, me at craft services eating a Snickers. It's in the credits. It's in the movie. It's like everything's in the movie now Great yeah, I didn't like free editors. Yes. Yes reaction on Chris. He's not in the scene. I said yeah Yeah, that that was big. Yeah, that was a seismic. Now what was your next move after you got big from bring the pain? I mean, what was your next um? It's weird. I did another special. I did. I mean I did here's the weird thing. I'm just like I'm getting I can I'm hanging with Madonna and

45:59So I'm with Madonna, right? And whatever. You're hanging with her. I'm hanging. Okay. And she pulls out. She's getting ready to do a special in Cuba. I'm literally right next to her. She calls her manager or somebody, and she cancels the special in Cuba. Really last moment thing, right? So I know how much money she's getting. And I offer, I call up Chris Albrecht at HBO, go, I'll do a special right now. But I got to get the same money. And? And I got it. Fuck! Wow. So? So whatever it was, you could imagine. But before that, I probably got 20 grand for Bring the Pain. Like, no comedian made any money.

47:03Sure, no. Just the privilege to do it. Like, take Madonna's money. Give me that money. But did you shoot it in Cuba? No, no, no. We shot Bigger and Blacker at the Apollo. Okay, that's right. Yeah. So I did that. So those two specials are kind of like a year apart or a year and a half apart. But you were ready or you didn't know? I wasn't really ready, but I knew I got it together. And, I mean, you know, it's that time in your life. You know, there's a time in your life when you're just a vessel. And the shit's coming through you like that, you know. So I was at that vessel point. And it's just coming through me.

47:51And most people think bigger and black is better than the pain. that's like even when when they were albums or DVDs Bigger and Black always sold more oh really yeah it's the bigger special um well it's good they're even close I mean usually a lot of people have one killer and then the rest you know cause right now people do a lot of specials in a row and some get watered down so then I started doing movies and you know Mel Gibson called hello Melly Mel He was nice It's crazy when you see what happens To people He was the nicest guy To everybody Even the Jews He was just nice Yeah Couldn't have been nicer I think I mean I just I think he's brilliant Have you ever seen Apocalypto?

48:50Apocalypto's one of the best movies ever made. Yeah. It's unbelievable. I mean, and as an actor, so. Yeah. I believe in second chances. Yeah. No, I got, hey. David, I gave him a second chance. Hey. Hey, if they want to do another lethal weapon, I'll take that check. Yeah. What's your biggest mailbox check? Madagascar. Oh, yeah. Oh, it is? That, I turned down Madagascar. Whoa! Well, I was, I don't know. What the hell What was going on with you? I had a bad day. You couldn't think of a lemur voice? Are you allergic to money? Kind of. Dana hates money. No, they wanted me to do a South African accent, and I was, like, really working on it.

49:35I think Sacha Cohen Baron did it. Ah. But now, you do the first movie. It's not that. Because I did Secret Life of Pets. The first movie there was... Thank you. Hold your applause. And then the first movie, you didn't get much from Madagascar. No, no, no, no. No, because DreamWorks was a new company. Okay. So, you know, I've been lucky a few times. So, if you get someplace early, they overpay. DreamWorks pays better than some of the other. DreamWorks, hey, man, for the Shrek guys. Yeah. It's like, you know, those guys, they made so much money, none of them ever worked again. They all went like 20 years without working.

50:17They made so much money. And now they have two more they just did. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, yeah. Yeah, Shrek is been very good. I love Eddie. This is how crazy Eddie can be. Eddie has the studio in his house, like the recording studio in his house. So all he has to do is go downstairs to do Donkey. To do Donkey. And... All right, you do Eddie and I'll do my... And he would make them wait for months at a time. and at least twice they negotiated deals with me to play donkey and then eddie just went downstairs

51:00i'm out of 30 million dollars

51:06just because eddie went downstairs The highs and the lows. 30! I'm on my way to the studio. Yeah, I'm donkey. Oh, Eddie went downstairs. Fuck. Fuck! Fuck! God damn it! Eddie went downstairs! He's in his pajamas doing donkey right now. Yeah.

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53:52Good Lord, Poodie Tang. Poodie Tang. Poodie Tang! It's a title that you can never forget. of a movie. Hey, man. Everybody thinks they're famous. And, you know, there was a point I was so famous I got a movie called Poodie Tang Man where the lead character doesn't speak English. You got that push through. Sign your pity on the runicard. Sign your pity on the runicard. Sign your pity on the runicard. Created by Louis C.K. Louis C.K. Written by Louis C.K. and a little bit myself. I got some jokes in there. But, yeah. What about I'm Gonna Eat You Sucker? Where's the one where you said, give me some ribs?

54:37What was the one where you said, give me some ribs? Oh, that's I'm Gonna Get You Sucker. Oh, yeah, yeah. Directed by Kenan Ivory Wayans. Okay. That's right. Okay. Now, here's a weird story about I'm Gonna Get You Sucker. I hope I'm not speaking out of tune. Most of that movie is thought up by Eddie Murphy. Like really yeah, and from what I hear Eddie was gonna do it and then he decided not to do it and Keenan's like hey picked it off his thing Hey, you thinking about doing this? I mean he still made it into Keenan's version of it But the initial thing was Eddie Murphy. Yeah, he told me he told me he came up with the fish in the in the shoe and all that stuff but uh-huh I Played the rib man, and I'm gonna get you sucker and and it was based on like some real shit like give me one rib yeah it's hysterical and the golden globe goes to I'm going to get you sucker yeah Chris is one line he comes in and then you go give me a rib and you're you don't have enough money and then you go how much for this and then you pull out a wad of hundreds at the end it's one for a scene to stand out how much for a soda yeah fuck the cup Put it in my hand.

55:57Ah, yeah. See?

56:03My daughters here are like, huh? It's good when it works. What? Your kids know any of your shit? My kids don't know any of your shit. Not really. My kids don't know nothing I've done and could care less. Yeah. In a healthy way. In a healthy way. Yeah. What about the one you just, the last one you just did? I just directed Misty Green. It's going to come out. it's going to come out in November it's at 824, it's kind of a drama honestly it's about a woman whose sugar daddy dies and she's got a week to get her shit together or she might have to fuck a guy in Dubai a tale as old as time it's kind of like the feel good picture the feel good story for Christmas the whole family Yeah, did it start out more?

56:55Yeah, so that's, yeah, that, what am I trying to say? The best way to describe it would be a female uncut gems, okay? Okay. So it stars a woman named Rosalind Elazar. She's on a show called Slow Horses. Oh, I love that show. Anna Kendrick's her best friend. Daniel Kaluuya is her brother. Adam Driver's in it. Oh, you got it. and myself and a few other people Anthony Anderson Topher Topher Grace yeah so we got have you done I mean it's uh yeah did it start off A24 nice little art movie how do you how do you wrote and directed it good job people like that like Adam Driver you know they're sort of brilliant at their craft I mean it's just very subtle I mean it's it's kind of like comedians I mean you gotta rehearse and you know figure out their moves and stuff i mean but he was great he was like you when you get an actor that good every take you're like whoa yeah you know it's probably like you think they'll be difficult when they're not then it's easy because then you have a back and forth but some if they resist and it's a lot i've been on movies where people really resist you go oh my god this is just gonna make it so hard yeah well it was it was a it was prime there's some comedy in it but it's definitely leans dramatic so yeah If it's funny, I got a ton of notes.

58:23But if it's not, you know, I'm going to trust Adam Driver. Yeah. Yeah, I would trust Adam Driver. And do a lot of the great actors you've worked with sometimes, like after a take, that you think's brilliant. Like, really? Was it good? Do you think it was good? Yeah, yeah. It seems like some of them are self-critical. Like that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Really? You think so? Wait, what movie was that one? Remember? I did a movie called Bad Company. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was that a Brockheimer movie? Oh really, Tony? Tony Hopkins. I did a movie with Tony. Which one did you do? Road to Wellville. Hey! Do you know what he would do?

58:57And I don't know if he did this with you, but he had a Polaroid shot of his character. His character had funny teeth. It was all about the wellness industry in 1890 or whatever. And you'd be talking to him, and then they'd go speed rolling. He would look at the picture, crush it on his face, and then breathe in like... And then put it in his pocket. and then he'd just be the character. Did you see any of that?

59:26I saw none of that. I swear, I didn't mention it. I do remember like older actors, they wanna rehearse, and do not give them new pages on the day. And I remember the director giving them new pages and him like, get the fuck away from me. Give me new fucking pages. Yeah. Just for that, today you get four takes. Yeah. Did you ever work with someone who just couldn't get their lines? I mean, Burt Lancaster, I was in a movie with him and Kirk Douglas, very sweet guy, but he'd be like, okay, I guess we're going to rob the train. And then everyone's just still and quiet. Line. And then the woman, because we got to do it today.

1:00:11Because we got to do it today. Line. And she would go on and on. Tracy Morgan's like that. Like, literally, like, one of the funniest people ever. Oh, yeah, sure. It's not that he can't do his, he doesn't know his lines. He can't do it the same way twice. Right. It has to be different. Yeah. By the way, a couple of, back to Michael Jackson. Yeah. Just fucking crazy name drop fest. So, Matt Eddy's house, me, there's a bunch of people, but I'll just say the name-droppy name. So it's me, Eddie, Chappelle, and Tracy. A couple people, Raphael Sadiq, Simone. Lots of cool people there. And to watch the Michael Jackson movie with Tracy Morgan kind of narrating.

1:01:04Oh, yeah. The new movie. I'm going to get me some penny loafers.

1:01:13That sounds fun. Who do you think hit harder, Joe or Joe Frazier?

1:01:23That's great. It's like the whole movie wouldn't stop. That's hysterical. I got a name drop story about this kind of stuff. Tom Hanks was telling me that Clint Eastwood will sort of walk on the scene and he's just coming out there and the cameras are rolling and he's like, okay, what is it? And the script cypher just goes, all right, so let's get out of here. All right, let's get out of here. So he likes to hear it right before he says it. Really? And that's kind of like Brando would hide things in the ceiling and stuff. Anyway, inside baseball. Would Brando have an earpiece? Clint Eastwood is not Tracy Morgan.

1:01:59It's not as dynamic as a centerpiece of a story, visually and orally. I agree. All right, you got something else? A little more for Chris Rock before we get him on here. Chris Rock. Uh-oh. All right, let's just hear hot takes on society. Me? I have no takes. AI, will it rule us? Will it take over? Be a good thing or a bad thing? You have five seconds. Hey, I personally know people that have actually lost jobs to AI. They're in the tech sector. So, hey, man. I don't know. For the arts, put it this way. To me, AI, just in my business, it's a drum machine. Okay? It's basically a drum machine. You give Dr.

1:02:45Dre a drum machine, it's fucking magic. You give me a drum machine, it's a waste of time. So I don't think it'll make shitty writers good because the good writers will have it too. You know what I mean? So the distance is still going to be the same between the talent because everybody's going to have it. But it's obviously a little scary. I've definitely seen you know there's definite parts of the business that are going to be gone well I was going to ask you about LA too and the recession in the film and TV business in Los Angeles I did my movie the whole movie we shot in LA good job yeah how much more expensive I mean that was more expensive right it probably was more expensive but you know that's a good thing not my money actually some of it was but I think I'm getting it back when does this movie come out?

1:03:54I put up some dough this movie comes out in November when the good shit comes out I don't like the people that have AI and they have Chad GPT and there's always one guy going hey can you start World War 3 It's like, why? Let's not mess with it. Because if they've read every book in the world, you're like, they can probably start some shit. So it shouldn't be in everyone's hands on their phone, which I think it is now. I haven't done it yet. We are living in the singularity. I mean, this is the printing press. This is fire. This is the atom splitting. Hey, I'm not even here, really. No. We'd like to thank Chris's digital copy for being here.

1:04:34And now on the count of three, the hologram will disappear. This is what I was just curious about. You hanging out. Like, what do you consume live streaming shows? Do you get into shows with your girlfriend or friends? Or what's a day off for you? Do you go to movie theaters by yourself? Or what do you do? Hey, I love my Apple TV. All right. So you're watching Neighbors with Jon Hamm? I travel. I, you know, just some fucking spoiled rich shit. I have the Apple TV hooked up in every hotel room I'm in. So I can watch my shows. What are your shows? Slow Horses. Slow Horses. I'm waiting for, I'm watching Euphoria right now.

1:05:19I'm watching Euphoria too, yeah. Don't spoil it. I haven't seen the last one, but. I'm only as far as everybody else. I like that it's every Sunday. I like that you can't jump ahead. It's like, I didn't see it this week. What? She's a nun? No. She has huge boobs again Has anyone watched The Pit? HBO Max I don't really see hospital shows But this one is kind of extra extra I want The Pit But it's just Brad Pitt telling girls They can't spend the night

1:06:00I want to watch that show Whenever Brad Pitt is on TV and my wife is over there and I just go, I don't get it. I mean, really, there's not much going on with him. I mean, is that considered handsome? You know, I don't see it. I remember being at a party. You ever been in a room with fucking Pitt, man? So you're in a party, right? And Obama. You meet a woman. The woman talks to you like this, right? When Brad Pitt walks in the room, every woman takes a step and a half back from whatever guy she's talking to. Like, every woman's like kind of aware with like, it's like when a pit bull gets loose in the neighborhood.

1:06:48Like, every woman knows exactly where the fuck Pitt is in the room. And if I have a chance, I'm not going to fuck it up tonight. over Chris Rock. They get a little bit away. And then he gets a woman, or he leaves the party, and then the girl starts talking to you normal again. Hey, how are you? Is this kind of a tell? That's happened at least twice today. Is this also a tell when Brad Pitt comes in, a woman might just kind of just do this? You know? Just a subtle... Just clean it up a little bit, yeah. Just kind of clean it up a little bit? Yeah. You ever seen that? I've seen it. Yeah, they kind of let you know, like, hey, if he even looks this way yeah I'm gonna kick you down a flight of stairs yeah immediately in a wood chipper I'm a huge fan he's a great guy he's a great guy and a great actor Chris you remember when oh Marcy's here but Marcy would bring Carolyn Vissette her on The Office at SNL and Carolyn Vissette was so stunning and we all kind of had a crush on her and then we got the news she's dating JFK Jr.

1:07:55we're all like oh that's her type Oh. The kind of guy every person in the world loves. I thought she'd be a little more interesting.

1:08:07I thought she'd like squirrely broke writers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I remember. I went out with her roommate for a minute. You what? You went out with her? Oh, really? Hmm. Yeah. Anyway. Plot thickening. Plot thickening. Don't skim try that one. That's as far as it got. Yeah. I'm going to just try to mention a celebrity and see if you've had a six degree. No, I'm not that guy. I'm not. No, it's just because you go. But I don't do that in my act. Well, people like you. I mean, and they want to hang out with you. That's all. I like you. I mean, we're hanging out with you right now. We're hanging out.

1:08:45This is fun. This is the most fun you've had today, right? This is kind of the most fun I'm going to, well, maybe later. Who's over there? Yeah Alright well Dan any last questions For our good friend Give me just quick What do you want? Adam Sandler what is with that guy? I call him Adam Sandler Claws I love that guy It's weird I realize Adam Sandler Might be my oldest friend Excuse me? That's right because it was pre Well Cause we know No I knew him before I got on SNL We were doing Club of Hire The whole thing you did At the Kennedy Center When they were vetting Adam Oh yeah you knew him before Yeah I knew I knew Adam like A year and a half Two years in the stand up So I've known Adam Like 40 years Or something That part of the story That you told about Adam Was really touched me It was so sweet Well Just at the club And then the It's like okay I'll tell the story again So at any comedy club you start stacking chairs that first is the privilege is to just be allowed in the club and then okay we're going to let you clean off tables and then okay we're going to give you late night spots during the week so you can go on at one o 'clock in the morning on a Wednesday right and then you get week spots spots during the week and then the greatest thing you can do after a couple of years of working is they let you work the weekends.

1:10:23Right? So, and that is like, you're a top comic, right? Right. And so I'm at the club. Pre-SNL. Pre-SNL. Yeah. I meet Eddie Murphy at the club. I meet Eddie Murphy at the club one night as I was stacking chairs, okay? I was stacking chairs. Eddie had watched like four guys and he goes to this guy, Lucian Holt. Hey, you got any black comics? And Lucian Holt's like, we got one right here. The guy hadn't spoke to me in six months. Eddie has that effect. And they put me on stage in front of Eddie. Eddie laughs. Eddie proceeds to tell me my whole life. Oh, wow. So Eddie tells me, you're going to be in movies.

1:11:11You're going to do SNL. You're going to do this. Like everything that's happened to me, you're going to direct, you're going to do this. From seeing one set? From seeing like eight minutes. Here and there. Like literally. Eight minutes. Crazy. Literally predicts my whole future. Yeah. Okay, you're going to get married, you're going to get divorced. Like everything. Married, divorced. Did he say you were going to meet me? Yeah. You told me I was going to do this podcast. The church lady. So, and, you know, and this is like the real Eddie Murphy. This is like, this is not Dr. Doolittle. This is like.

1:11:43This is Eddie, Eddie, Eddie. Red leather. Yeah, he probably had on some green leather. And it's like Elvis Eddie, and he's got 20 guys with him. And he's like, we're going to L.A. tomorrow. You should come. I go to L.A. with Eddie. Holy shit. And I end up in Beverly Hills Cop 2. That's right. A movie that I saw four times the day it came out. I saw Beverly Hills Cop 1, me and Fred Barton, who's not alive anymore, saw it four times. Anyway, so I'm in L.A. doing that. I come back because I have to come back. You know, I only made$600 doing Beverly Hills Cop, right? And who do I see? Who the fuck's this white kid on stage on Saturday night?

1:12:35Zabadoo. What the fuck is going on here? Right. It took me two, three years to get on it Saturday night. He just came out of nowhere. Where the fuck is this guy? Yeah. Sandler. Yeah. And like everything in my body said to hate this guy. Because not only is he on Saturday night and obviously didn't earn it. They told me he's on the Cosby show. It's like, motherfucker, how come I'm not on the Cosby show? I'm a black guy. Who is this white boy on the fucking Cosby show going on on Saturday night? And I watched him And I was so prepared to like Fuck this guy And I watched him And he did this joke About Wilt Chamberlain scoring 100 points In a game It was like His impression of the other players on the team Hey Wilt, I'm open But he also had a line where they're in a huddle Wilt's already scored 98 And the coach says okay, who's got willed?

1:13:42That was another one. He had another one about his grandmother rubbing Bix-Bapen rub on his chest, and he looks his grandmother in her eyes and goes, we're just friends, right?

1:13:55So, I'm watching him do this, and all the hate just left my body. I was like, this guy's the best. This guy's so fucking funny. Oh, my God. And we just became friends that night. Yeah. Wasn't there a moment where he was with sort of a gang and then he saw you and sort of said, you know, he invited you into this. Well, he was with all those guys he writes with now were there. So like Jack Gariputo and Hurley, all those guys, you know, they were he was he was going to NYU at the time. Yeah, he was going to NYU. We had such insanely different backgrounds. okay so he's he's literally going to nyu i'm at his dorm and all the shit i'm living in bed stuy it is the height of the crack epidemic okay not this hipster bed stuy you hear about now like right this is grandmother's blowing people fucking crack head right so the home values were it was It was insane, dude.

1:15:02Crack was an insane time. Because crack and the VCR came out at the same time. So guys, people would do, it was like the fucking opium wars or some shit. And guys would show you tapes of somebody's motherfucking three guys. It was crazy. Crack was insane. Anyway. The good old days. I remember me and Sandler auditioned for SNL on the same night. I was doing a movie called Hanging Out with the Homeboys. And the director, we were in rehearsals, and the auditions were in Chicago. And so I needed a day off to go audition, and the director was like, if you leave, you're fired. I left they fired me and I went to I went to audition for SNL and me and Sandler auditioned the night the same night I did good I don't think it was great but it was good and Sandler did good and we both we watched Dana Gould destroy and Dana Gould did so well I left it's like why am I even And here, this guy is like the king of this shit.

1:16:26Yeah, great stand-up. And me and Adam got the job. Yeah, yeah. You came in. Me, Adam, and Farley. Yeah. Farley auditioned because we auditioned at the Improv, and he was around the corner at Second City. Second City, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so we all got. Could I ask you a question of something that stood for 30 years? You know, this thing, you and Farley. Right. because I think I made a joke when you guys, the first day you were hired, I think I was on Letterman and I did a thing of, I always have some new guys and I was sort of kidding, but I said, you know, I am, you know, I'm the freaking church lady.

1:17:04Now give me a cup of coffee. I think I said that. And then you and Chris just called me the lady, period. Every rehearsal, see it, where's lady? Saw you lady. How's it going, lady? Yeah. Same thing with Vari. It was only lady, only you two guys. Never stop. I think if I saw you... I didn't call you Dana until 2022. Yeah, I remember that day. I teared up a little bit. I was like, I have a name. I'm a person. I have... Yeah. David? I saw Chris on the back of some comedy magazine. It was a picture of you and Sandler in the corner. and I was in LA and I, I didn't know either of you guys. Then I met Sandler, but I was doing the same thing in the Valley here, um, where Schneider and Drake say there, and a lot of comics were going on and Judd and, and I'd see Sandler and covert and, you know, same situation where Sandler was great.

1:18:09And then we all kind of goofed around and, and then he goes out, you know, and then he's doing out there you, and then we all wind up in the same show. It was such a ridiculous miracle. It's so funny how that happened. Very strange. Ridiculous. Just to make a living. That's all I thought about when I put down my waiter apron. Could this be my job? Could my job be doing stand-up, basically? That was it. That's the touchstone. And then other things happened, too. But still, that is the full circle. You're still doing good. Dana, you're doing great. Thank you. And let's thank the audience for coming down.

1:18:45you guys we appreciate it and thank you Chris Rock Chris Rock everybody we'll see you guys thank you

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