Denis Leary: Conan’s Comedy Cousin

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Fly on the Wall Podcast: Episode Summary

Episode Title

Denis Leary: Conan’s Comedy Cousin

Hosts

  • Dana Carvey
  • David Spade

Guest

  • Denis Leary

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Overview In this episode, Denis Leary joins Dana Carvey and David Spade to discuss his experiences in the Boston comedy scene during the '80s, his iconic film roles, and his connections to fellow comedians like Conan O'Brien. The conversation is filled with humor, anecdotes about their careers, and reflections on the current state of comedy.

Key Themes and Discussions

  1. Boston Comedy Scene of the '80s
  2. Emergence of Talent: Leary reminisces about the vibrant Boston comedy scene, highlighting figures such as Steven Wright, Paula Poundstone, and Bobcat Goldthwait.
  3. Character of Performers: The conversation touches on how different comedians approached their acts, with some embodying anger while others maintained a more friendly demeanor.
  1. Leary's Career Highlights
  2. Never on SNL: Leary reflects on why he never participated in *Saturday Night Live (SNL)* despite being in the comedy circuit.
  3. Iconic Roles: Discusses significant roles in films such as *Demolition Man* and upcoming projects, including a new show called "Going Dutch".
  4. Musical Success: The catchy nature of his song "I'm an Asshole" and its impact on his career.
  1. Personal Anecdotes
  2. Golfing with Stallone: Leary shares a humorous story about golfing with Sylvester Stallone during the filming of *Demolition Man*.
  3. Life Changes: The transition from smoking to quitting after decades and the unexpected health outcomes.
  1. Current State of Comedy and Entertainment
  2. Shift to Streaming: The trio discusses how the entertainment landscape has changed, with streaming becoming the dominant platform.
  3. Cultural Commentary: They touch on the importance of live performance compared to streaming content and the impact on new comedians.
  1. Podcasting and Its Evolution
  2. Personal Podcasting Journey: Dana and David recount how their friendship led to the creation of the podcast, emphasizing the natural, comedic flow of their discussions.
  3. Audience Engagement: The hosts express the importance of connecting with their audience and the modern dynamics of podcasting.

Key Takeaways

  • Comedy Evolution: The landscape of comedy has shifted dramatically with the rise of streaming platforms, changing how comedians connect with audiences.
  • Friendship as Foundation: The chemistry between Carvey and Spade underlines the importance of genuine relationships in creating engaging content.
  • Anecdotes as Connection: Funny personal stories enhance the relatability and entertainment value of the podcast.

Conclusion The episode is a blend of nostalgia, humor, and insights into the entertainment industry, showcasing Denis Leary's unique experiences and the camaraderie among the hosts. The discussions reflect on the evolution of comedy while keeping the essence of their comedic roots alive.

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Chapters

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Conan and Dennis Leary

1:46 to 3:59

David and Dana discuss Conan O'Brien's background and Dennis Leary's comedy.

“And Stallone is in his Demolition Man outfit with the boots and everything.”

Dennis Leary's Early Career

3:59 to 7:11

Dennis shares insights about his early comedy career in Boston.

“And Dana lives in a mansion about three hours away.”

Comedy and Anger

7:11 to 10:12

A discussion on the relationship between comedy and anger in performances.

“Like, think about the Boston comedy scene in 1985, 82.”

Stand-Up Experiences

10:12 to 14:03

Dennis and the hosts share their stand-up comedy experiences and challenges.

“One in Boston, which is a big gig for the Cam Neely Foundation.”

Lenny Clark and the Chinese Restaurant

14:03 to 15:20

Discover the early comedy experiences of Denis Leary and his journey to performing stand-up.

“but he would have like, he would have you come back over and over again.”

Emerson Comedy Workshop Origins

15:20 to 16:48

Learn about the Emerson Comedy Workshop and how it shaped Denis's comedic style.

“So I did, when I was in college at Emerson college in Boston, we for a bunch of us formed a thing called the Emerson comedy workshop.”

The First Breakthrough Joke

16:48 to 17:02

Denis shares the first joke that marked a turning point in his comedy career.

“And you're like, how do I work tits in every joke?”

Denis's Smoking Journey

20:43 to 23:28

Denis discusses his smoking habits, quitting, and the surprising results of his health check-up.

“I smoked on stage at Carnegie Hall, where you're not allowed to smoke at all.”

Age, Family, and Comedy

23:28 to 28:00

A candid conversation about aging in comedy, family traits, and Denis's connection to Conan O'Brien.

“And like, I think I just have one of those such addictive personality that at a certain point, my brain goes, we don't need these things anymore.”

Conan and the Art of Podcasting

28:00 to 29:19

Discussion about Conan O'Brien's humor and the evolving nature of podcasting.

“and we're all, it's not like everybody's a cousin.”
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SNL Connections and Early Career

29:20 to 31:09

Denis Leary shares insights about his relationship with SNL and his early career aspirations.

“So when this thing started, it was just people from Saturday Night Live that were connected because that's, you know, I keyed in because I was interested in that.”

Disney Experiences and Voice Acting

31:10 to 32:48

Leary recounts his experience voicing a character in 'Emperor's New Groove' and the challenges faced.

“But I knew you, I knew a couple of guys there.”

Ice Age Negotiations and Streaming

32:49 to 35:08

Discussion about the Ice Age franchise and the shift to streaming in the entertainment industry.

“By the way, I should take this opportunity since we brought it up.”

The Shift in Movie Consumption

35:09 to 37:55

Conversation about the decline of theater attendance and the rise of streaming services.

“I mean, just romance of like, oh, I'm in a theater, but I've had theaters and I've had streaming.”

Watching Movies: Home vs. Theater

37:56 to 40:05

Insights on the experience of watching movies at home versus in theaters and the distractions involved.

“I turn everything off and it doesn't even matter as long as there's some things moving around.”

The Super Bowl and Alternative Commentary

40:06 to 42:00

Discussion on watching the Super Bowl, sports commentary, and the idea of alternative broadcasts for awards shows.

“If you don't want to watch the Oscars, watch us three talking about the movies.”

Discussing the Halftime Show

42:00 to 43:20

The hosts speculate about the halftime show and its production challenges.

“Emmys or the Oscars as they're happening.”

Origin of the Podcast Partnership

43:20 to 45:00

Denis Leary shares the story behind his podcast partnership with Dana Carvey.

Shooting in Ireland vs. the Netherlands

48:20 to 49:40

Leary discusses filming Going Dutch in Ireland instead of the Netherlands.

“Yeah, they fucking paid a guy to climb a building.”

Military Base and Local Culture

49:40 to 51:40

Denis Leary explains the show's premise based on a real military base and its unique culture.

“Anyway, this show, because they're going to ask you later.”

Talent and Film Industry Trends

51:40 to 53:20

The hosts discuss industry changes and the talent behind popular films.

“So, uh, it was, it was a blast for it's, it's always a blast to go back there.”

Denis Leary's Early Acting Experiences

53:20 to 55:40

Leary shares insights about his early acting career and notable co-stars.

“It's taken forever, but they're all finally like, he was at the Santa Barbara film festival this weekend.”

First Impressions of Stallone

55:40 to 56:03

Denis Leary recounts his first meeting with Sylvester Stallone during filming.

Demolition Man Stories

56:03 to 57:29

Hear Denis Leary's amusing experiences on the set of Demolition Man.

“And it's a giant fucking net for driving golf balls.”

Casting Changes and Penalties

57:30 to 58:52

Denis shares surprising details about casting changes and contract penalties.

“that fantastic was sandy bullock in that yeah yeah yeah she was yeah she replaced we had to shut the movie down to replace Lori Petty was the girl who played her first really?”

Financial Success in Hollywood

58:53 to 1:00:28

The transition from struggling actor to experiencing financial success.

“I think he was wasn't Rob like his character was like he was in an office.”

Memories of Phil Hartman

1:00:29 to 1:02:38

Denis reminisces about working with Phil Hartman and his comedic genius.

“So they're like, you know, fucking Jeffrey Katzenberg was running all those branches of Disney movies at the time, Touchstone, all those.”

Unfrozen Caveman Genius

1:02:39 to 1:02:55

A memorable moment highlighting Phil Hartman's iconic character.

“really knowing how to just fuck and provide it he was so fucking funny dude that's awesome and you know like i one of my favorite characters he did was unfrozen caveman Oh, shit.”
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0:00Denis Leary:The Emmy-winning comedy Scrubs is back. The beloved original cast led by Zach Braff, Donald Faison, and Sarah Chalk have returned to Sacred Heart Hospital for all new hilarious and heartfelt stories.

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1:46David Spade:So that's Conan. Conan's had his own real estate. Oh my God. Conan needs a friend. Why? Because he's Irish? Because he's Irish and he's my cousin. Did you guys know that? And Stallone is in his Demolition Man outfit with the boots and everything. And there's a golf throw guy. That's like a golf pro. And he's driving both. F*** again. F*** Sleightson again. Those f***ing cocksuckers ripped you off. They rat f***ed me. Can you say cock sucker? You can say anything.

2:15Dana Carvey:Don't smuggle f***ing.

2:17Denis Leary:No, but you can say rat f***ing.

2:19David Spade:You can't say cock sucker, but you can say rat f***ing.

2:23Denis Leary:Dennis Leary. I'm an asshole. That's his song. That song is so catchy that I can see why. It was like a hit song.

2:36Dana Carvey:No, it was an actual hit song. It's like Hanukkah song.

2:40Denis Leary:he said when he does these gigs he's like and i have to do the asshole song of course i have to do the asshole song but he's around our age he's a good dude uh been in comedy forever always working and on rescue me he was on uh so many things he's done a lot of movies and television yeah yeah and

3:01Dana Carvey:and one man shows uh no cure for cancer like 91 or two kind of put him on the map folks folks and work non-stop we talk about his smoking X kind of became his thing as a as a comic character and how maybe he doesn't do that anymore we discovered he's gonna

3:18Denis Leary:be in a new Ice Age yeah another Ice Age I think he's the lion I think he's the

3:26Dana Carvey:lion yeah and we had and he has a new show called Dutch on going Dutch is it going dutch on fox and it's actually an interesting story about how this gets made what it's based on a real thing and he plays the uh george s patton of the base it's a military yeah it's fun to have

3:46Denis Leary:some old schoolers on here uh crack we talked about the state of shooting and where people shoot their shows it's always on everyone's mind and uh here's here's a fun convo with dennis leary hello david oh is it dennis already yeah early finally someone comes early

4:04David Spade:what nobody comes early no one that's fucking crazy look at let's just watch dana but a buffoon

4:12Denis Leary:what's he doing no he doesn't know what he's doing he's doddering shut the door get ready

4:22David Spade:we were just watching you like a fucking zoo animal in his cage yeah he can't hear you yet

4:27Dana Carvey:hold on no they told me to put the superman fly can you see what it says dennis no oh fuck it's fine leave it there this is a 500 pound fucking dresser i have no idea why i'm not that week it's unbelievable first of all yeah slow down no no i was gonna say so i don't know some you guys have a studio sometimes but sometimes you're yeah exactly yeah okay yeah exactly right

5:00David Spade:yeah yes so because i've seen people in the studio with you yeah this is my house dennis and this is

5:08Denis Leary:a studio if we need it. And Dana lives in a mansion about three hours away.

5:14Dana Carvey:I'm on a farm, but I can get there.

5:18Denis Leary:I'm on a farm too.

5:21Dana Carvey:You're not just saying that. No, I'm on a farm.

5:23David Spade:I'm on a farm, a horse farm.

5:25Dana Carvey:Oh, okay. We got a couple horses right now, long story short, but yeah. Is your wife around?

5:32Denis Leary:Is my wife around?

5:34Dana Carvey:Is your wife a rider?

5:35David Spade:I thought you said, is she around? I said she's in the closet. Can I talk to your wife for a second?

5:43Dana Carvey:But look, if people request going into the studio live, I will almost always try to make it.

5:51Denis Leary:Almost always try. A lot of people thought you were in Boston,

5:56Dana Carvey:so you would want to make the trip out. But somebody's been doing some local podcasts.

6:02David Spade:Oh, yeah.

6:04Dana Carvey:Where are you now?

6:05David Spade:I'm in, right now, I'm in New York. Interesting. Where's the farm?

6:11Dana Carvey:What state?

6:13David Spade:The farm is in New York. It's right outside the city. It's a long story. I'm a city kid. And I always was. I was born and raised in the city. But my wife, you know, wanted to, once we got money, my wife met me when we had nothing. Once we got money, she wanted to ride horses. And she became a competitive rider. So we always had horses. Now, when the kids grew up, they refused to come visit us on that farm, which was like three hours out of the city. So we moved closer to the city with a little tiny farm with a couple of ponies.

6:49Dana Carvey:So wait a minute. You had no money, basically.

6:53David Spade:No money, no credit cards.

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6:55Dana Carvey:This woman called your wife now.

6:57David Spade:This amazing woman.

6:59Dana Carvey:Liked you, who's amazing, with no money.

7:02David Spade:No money, no money, no credit cards, nothing. I didn't have -

7:06Dana Carvey:And no real possibilities for any kind of success. I mean, think about it. Really?

7:11David Spade:Like, think about the Boston comedy scene in 1985, 82.

7:15Dana Carvey:Yeah, she probably dated Lenny Clark.

7:18David Spade:Yeah, exactly. Jimmy Tingle. Yeah, we were all getting paid under the table at a club run by Lenny Clark's brother, Mike. That's what we did for a living.

7:29Dana Carvey:This is what I want to ask you, because I just that we're here right now. It's just the Boston scene. Yes. And who's carrying the torch for what do you call that? You know, you had your quirkies, you had Paula Poundstone, you had Bobcat Goldthwait.

7:45Denis Leary:All right.

7:45Dana Carvey:That's even right.

7:46David Spade:Steven, Steven Wright was the start of it all.

7:49Denis Leary:He was a big one. Yeah.

7:51Dana Carvey:But a lot of hulking like kind of bad ass type. Yeah. You know, rough and tumble clubs. I saw the documentary. You fight, you throw in chairs. and you were part of that wave. I mean, where's that coming from? Should I visit Boston or watch my back? What's all the anger?

8:09David Spade:Well, I don't know. Again, that's one of those things that people constantly ask me, Bill Burr, you know, fucking. They ask Bobcat, too, because Bobcat, there was a lot of anger in Bobcat's act.

8:22Denis Leary:Zoinks.

8:23David Spade:Yeah. Yeah, a lot of. I think it's just a lot of.

8:26Dana Carvey:Various, though. Yeah, really.

8:29David Spade:I mean, great scene. Right. But some of the funniest people weren't angry people. Steve Wright wasn't angry. That was a. No, no. It's just amazing. It was a beautiful, Christine haiku act. I mean, just amazing act. Right. Paula Brownstone. Paula was just like really so, um, you know, open and friendly to me. She used to sit, you know, the rest of us are attacking the audience. Like, like we want to kill them and she sits on a stool and opens up and everybody fucking loves her. Yeah.

8:59Dana Carvey:so you know it was weird very fast i used to do a bit because i just thought of an angry comedian and and uh i know this guy i know this character and then and then this guy gets really rich and famous but still has to find ways to be angry you know and i did this bit and people thought i was doing bill but i started thinking of it in the 90s yeah i know right yeah you know what drives me fucking nuts. He drives me out of my fucking mind. Meter maids. What are you driving a fucking golf cart? I need a parking ticket. What are you going to get a nine iron in that? The fuck? You know what drives me out of my fucking mind?

9:38Dana Carvey:Pickles. Cyclone fences. You can't get a regular fucking fence. So anyway, that was the bit and I love that guy. I love that character. I love being in that attitude because it's not me. I'm a people pleaser and hopelessly whatever.

9:53Denis Leary:Louis Black was constantly in a state of rage. Oh yeah.

9:56David Spade:Louis Black was fucking in a rage.

9:58Denis Leary:A rage no matter what.

9:59David Spade:I mean, he made me look like fucking Paula Poundstone. Yeah.

10:03Denis Leary:Yours was like funny, stupid rage. Just mad at stupid shit. Yeah.

10:08David Spade:Mine was silly, fucking crazy. And it still is. Like when I do, I do stand up twice a year, right? I have two charity concerts.

10:16Denis Leary:Yeah.

10:17David Spade:One in Boston, which is a big gig for the Cam Neely Foundation. That's like fucking 15 ,000 people. And the other one is the Michael J. Fox Foundation show, which is private as well. But, you know, it's a smaller crowd. It's a few thousand. But I don't do any old material except the asshole song. But I just it's amazing, like fucking how I mean, I can't remember exactly what the bit was. But when I went up this fall, I did a whole thing about RFK Jr., but about being from Massachusetts, like to be considered an asshole. if you're a Kennedy from Massachusetts, you really have to agree because everybody is so still pro Kennedy, right?

11:00David Spade:Yeah, they still love the fucking Kennedys in Massachusetts. So egregiously, you have to piss off. You have to piss off everybody in Massachusetts, but your family has to speak out first. So when your family comes out, it says, hey, fuck him. Then we all go, all right. Yeah, it's great.

11:17Dana Carvey:did not fly in formation there's a kennedy formation and bobby went i'm i'm going over here

11:23Denis Leary:yeah you even doing stand-up and those things you got to get nervous i mean it's still stand-up you

11:27David Spade:got to do a long set yeah it's well you know that feeling now it's not so much nervous it's just like when at the ages that we're at hopefully it's more like the butterflies like i want the show to start right yeah it's not like it's not the it's not panic it's like fuck can't wait to get up there I hope I remember this. You know what I mean? Like, right.

11:48Dana Carvey:It's not like, oh, if I do well here, maybe I'll have a career or, you know, I was bummed so hard at the improv in Hollywood. Yeah. I went on an 805, you know, I mean, I mean death and I was killing in the clubs in the hinterland. And then they said, Hey, Norman Lear thought it was pretty funny. I go, what the fuck? He was there.

12:09David Spade:What was Norman Lear doing there?

12:11Dana Carvey:I don't know. He's dead. Well, this is a while back. My point is what Dennis said. We're not nervous in that sense that we're dancing for our donuts. We've had our careers and now we're continuing, which is another thing I wanted to ask you about.

12:26David Spade:Well, I can see it. I usually put a young or first-time person for a gig that size on the Cam Neely thing in Boston, but also at the Michael J. Fox gig. There'll be a person there who's doing it for the first time, a young comp. And I can see, I can see the panic that we all used to have. For sure. Right. So you go like, Hey man, it's, it's going to be fine. It's a fucking charity, whatever. You give them the heads up. Right. So I understand that. I remember that. I mean, we all remember that.

12:56Dana Carvey:I was doing one with Billy Crystal in the early eighties. Somehow I had the same manager and they got me on a little Showtime special. I had like two minutes. Andy Kaufman was the headliner. I was fucking panicked. I had no business being on the show. and Billy Crystal goes, you got fear in your face, go outside and walk around. Get outside right now and walk around. You look nervous. He was really trying to help me, but I remember that. Did you go out and walk around? Didn't help at all. I completely bombed. What did you do? What material did you do? Oh, I did a Jacques Cousteau bit. Come on, we're going to you know.

13:31Denis Leary:Dennis, don't make that face.

13:33David Spade:You couldn't kill with a Jacques Cousteau bit?

13:35Denis Leary:You can't kill with fucking... I was

13:38Dana Carvey:first up and I had two minutes. But the point is, is that I understand the young comedian going to these big giant charity events. Fifteen thousand people. Yeah.

13:51David Spade:I still remember. I mean, I don't know. I can't remember what your guys backstories was on this. But I fucking Lenny Clark ran that fucking the big comedy night in Boston. The first comedy night was run by Lenny Clark. It was a Wednesday night open mic. but he would have like, he would have you come back over and over again. Right. At a Chinese fucking restaurant in Cambridge. Right. So like I fucking went up the first time I went up because I, I went to college with Steve Wright at Emerson college. And so somebody said, and he was the shyest fucking guy in the world. And somebody, a mutual friend said, Hey, Steve went up at a fucking Chinese restaurant last night and did stand up.

14:32David Spade:And he lived around the corner from me. So I went around the corner to his apartment. I was like, what the fuck? He's like, yeah, I'm doing, he goes, I didn't face the audience. I faced the wall, but I did pretty well. So I went and I saw it and I couldn't do what he did, but I could do what Lenny Clark did. Cause Lenny was like a regular guy off the street. Regular boss. And I fucking bombed. I must've bombed for fucking 10 weeks. And every time I bombed, there'd be like a tiny little laugh. I'd go, Oh, that was a pretty good thing. And then Lenny would go, Hey, come back next week. He would just keep telling me to come back and I would fucking bomb.

15:05David Spade:but then there'd be like two bits. And so like, When did you,

15:10Dana Carvey:when did you have your first one little line or one little attitude or one bit that was surefire? Like, Oh, I always lean on this. Everything else sucks.

15:19David Spade:But yeah. So I did, when I was in college at Emerson college in Boston, we for a bunch of us formed a thing called the Emerson comedy workshop. And it was a, you know, a theater group where we had to do original shows. We had to write all the material to get credit for it. So one of the characters I eventually played in that while I was in college was a guy. Everything was kind of behind a fourth wall because it was the theater. But there was one character I played we called Bill, who was a really fucking angry guy. It was basically me. It was a really angry guy who smoked and who just fucking talked to the audience, ranted and raved about the Kennedy assassination or whatever.

15:56David Spade:right um he's literally like your parking meter guy except it was me so when i when steve wright was doing that thing i was like well i'm just going to try to do the guy that guy right that guy who's me who's basically me so everything wasn't working but then i i wrote my like i the first uh smoking joke i wrote which was um my sister says you know these things are just uh a replacement because my mom didn't breastfeed me long enough. And I was like, Hey, if I could buy a pack of tits, I would. That was the first.

16:38Dana Carvey:Pack of tits. Yeah. Pack of tits is a great word.

16:42David Spade:That was the first joke where I went like, Oh fuck.

16:48Denis Leary:And you're like, how do I work tits in every joke?

16:50Dana Carvey:Yeah. I need 10, 10. That's all you learned. 10 pats. of jokes that are as good as.

16:58David Spade:As good as. It took me a while, but that was where I got my first smoking, angry smoking truck.

17:04Denis Leary:The Emmy-winning comedy Scrubs is back to ABC with a fresh pulse. It's been 15 years since we've checked in with the gang at Sacred Heart Hospital. The beloved original cast, Zach Braff, Donald Faison, and Sarah Chalk scrub back in. Older and maybe wiser, Judy Reyes, John C. McGinley also reprised their iconic roles and scrub fans you'll be thrilled to see some of your fan favorite characters pop up though we can't reveal any names just yet after creating hits like ted lasso and shrinking executive producer bill lawrence has put together a diverse talented group of writers to bring to life the scrubs universe of today and there's a healthy injection of super funny colorful new characters including a fresh group of newbie interns and co-workers slash nemeses like Vanessa Bayer and Joel Kim Booster.

17:52Dana Carvey:The new season of Scrubs Wednesday is at 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu.

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19:54Dana Carvey:for chaise lounges well i was looking for just a little uh a little couch or a chaise lounge and then i i just saw like 20 different options so i'm gonna order one probably today so you look you see

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20:37Dana Carvey:Wayfair Every style Every home Did you smoke? I have to ask

20:45David Spade:I just quit I just quit four years ago

20:49Dana Carvey:I smoked for 52 years Okay, so it was not a prop

20:53David Spade:Oh no, fuck no I stopped smoking after No Cure for Cancer Because on stage Because I was like, there's no fucking point now Because people expect me to smoke I'll just get rid of it I smoked like a fucking chimney until four years ago. And you smoked on stage? Smoked on stage.

21:11Denis Leary:And nobody cared?

21:12David Spade:Nobody gave a fuck. I smoked on stage at Carnegie Hall, where you're not allowed to smoke at all. I smoked everywhere. I smoked in fucking Mayor Bloomberg's office in New York City while he was the mayor. He was the complete anti-smoking guy. I would just light up. I would just fucking light up until people told me.

21:32Dana Carvey:Did you have a cool move with it? because if it wasn't dangerous, I mean, I thought Jon Hamm in Mad Men.

21:39David Spade:Mad Men.

21:40Dana Carvey:He was so brilliant with the cigarette and making it intensely cool. The way he smoked it. Did you have moves that you were conscious of or did you just look cool?

21:50David Spade:No, on stage, I always tried to look the opposite of cool with it. So I was always like making it huge. You know what I mean? Like big gestures. But I don't know if I was cool in real. I thought I was cool in real life smoking.

22:04Dana Carvey:Did you ever put it in your mouth and keep talking like Brad Pitt did in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? Yeah, because that is the cool move.

22:11David Spade:Fuck, dude, I smoked all the time. You knew what you were doing. Have you had your lungs checked out or how are you? Now, here's the fucking thing, right? I quit drinking like 20 years ago. I'm not health enough, but I'm physically active. I play a lot of fucking sports. I try to keep myself in shape. Colin Quinn, you know, who quit smoking a long time ago, was the guy when I saw him, he'd be like, hey, you're never going to quit. So that was always in my head, right? That he was probably right. Because we knew each other back when we were in our 20s, like when we were all smoking. But he and I smoked like fucking chimneys.

22:49David Spade:So I was like, he's right. I just gave up on the idea of quitting. So this is not any brag. I'm just telling you guys what happened. I don't know why it happened. I went outside to smoke a cigarette in August for four years ago, I think it was. And and I literally finished the cigarette and I went, man, that's it. And I thought, that's weird that I said that to myself. And I had a full pack. So I'm like, I'm going to smoke again tomorrow. I woke up in the morning. I threw that pack away. Fucking never smoked again.

23:23Denis Leary:I just never I don't know.

23:24David Spade:So it's just like the quitting drink. I quit drinking. I was like, I'm done. And like, I think I just have one of those such addictive personality that at a certain point, my brain goes, we don't need these things anymore. Right. Yeah. So my wife goes, you're getting a fucking checkup and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, OK. And she's like, I'm coming with you because I don't trust you. She's right. Right. The doctor told me bad news. I would probably. So I go. I do the fucking tests, everything, running, breathing, the fucking scans of the lung. And then we have this meeting with the cardiologist.

23:56David Spade:And he's like, I don't know what to say. but you have, it's like you never smoked.

24:02Denis Leary:Love it.

24:03David Spade:And I was like, what? And as soon as he said it, my wife turned to me, she goes, you're not fucking smoking again. And I was like, that was the first thing I thought, like I could start smoking again, but I did. I got lucky genetically.

24:17Dana Carvey:I got totally lucky. Other people drink like a fish, go to 95, you know, and other people, you know, so. My mother died at 98.

24:25David Spade:She just passed away. and she never smoked or drank a day in her life. My dad dropped dead when he was 60 and he smoked like a chimney. So I got my mother's insides and my dad's outsides. Yeah. Wow. So you got to be really handsome and healthy. I mean, you look the same. That's good. Yeah. I think we all think we look the same, but we don't.

24:47Dana Carvey:It depends on the lighting. Depends on the shot. My wife and I are at the airport and they go clear. Do you want to have clear? You go and they take your picture. Yeah. it was so monster it was like amazing how old we looked like we're all we're all i know yeah you only are your digital copy and it's lighting and stuff so there's no macro or truth of exactly

25:11Denis Leary:how you look well you've got a good voice that's the same too this your voice is so distinct that that's cool to have a good strong voice that's yeah what are you guys talking about you guys

25:23David Spade:have two of the most identifiable fucking voices in fucking show business. David does. David does, you do. What are you talking about? This voice? Yes. Who's that? It's the voice you lead into the bits with.

25:35Dana Carvey:Oh, the in and out guy. Yeah.

25:37Denis Leary:Yeah.

25:39Dana Carvey:All right. I like that. I like what you're saying.

25:43David Spade:Listen, we have to face certain facts, which is the three of us, he's a youngster compared to you and me, right? David.

25:52Dana Carvey:so because you're what seven what are you 71 no don't go hey hey whoa whoa i'm 70 but i read at a 72 year old yeah we'll cut this out i'm 69 and i'm 69 i tell people i'm gonna be 69 okay

26:08David Spade:some people i'm 70 because i look even younger but here's the point we're both all three of us are still working how about that yeah that's what i was gonna ask you

26:17Dana Carvey:about the amazing men of like how long and now you got a you got a big tv show you know in ireland where you're feeling it going dutch so it's like you don't stop i mean your wikipedia page you know rescue you all you're just going going going i don't know how you do it but now you got a new show we can talk about that you probably don't want to people to know about it though right

26:40Denis Leary:here's the only reason i'm talking to you assholes

26:44Dana Carvey:get out there

26:46David Spade:honestly though even if I didn't have a show I you know my podcast habits are so fucked up because I'm so old school I literally have only listened to the podcasts that are on satellite radio in my truck when I'm driving around easiest way so that's Conan fucking Conan's stupid Conan

27:07Denis Leary:Conan needs a friend

27:09David Spade:why because he's Irish because he's Irish and he's my cousin did you guys know that? we looked it up

27:16Denis Leary:we looked up some shit

27:18David Spade:how tall are you? you're a cousin my son is huge my son is 6 '7 your son is Conan's height? Conan, there's a bunch of people in my family my dad's side people are tall and thin even the women he had one sister who was very small And my sister Anne-Marie, who's right behind me, is pretty tall. My son is tall. My daughter is tall. My wife has tall people on her side of the family. Okay.

27:50Dana Carvey:Well, most Irishmen are not tall.

27:54David Spade:No.

27:55Dana Carvey:Bono is average. You know, 5 '6", 5 '6".

27:59David Spade:But Conan, the reason you can tell Conan and I are actually – well, listen, by the way, it's like we're from the Southwest. and we're all, it's not like everybody's a cousin. You know what I mean? Like Conan and I, I, my whole body is legs. My torso is tiny. And I have a, look at this fucking hair.

28:19Denis Leary:Now you've got a little Conan-y hair right now. This hair gets a little bit fucking higher and the legs are longer.

28:26David Spade:I'm Conan. You're right there. So, and by the way, you want to talk about angry fucking funny Irish guys. Conan's the king. Nobody.

28:36Denis Leary:He doesn't show it on. Is he angry?

28:39David Spade:I mean, he's angry. He's pretty angry on the podcast. He's really fucking funny. I love it. He can really go. He can go down the fucking rabbit hole. But anyways, what I was going to say was I got I became aware of your guys podcast and I I was looking at it on Instagram because I don't listen to podcasts.

28:54Dana Carvey:Yeah.

28:55David Spade:So this is my usual thing of seeing. Yeah.

28:58Dana Carvey:Well, this is I brought this up. It's not profound, but this is a new art form where people consuming what we're doing right now are most likely doing something else while they are gardening there's the gym or in their car in their house doing chores and so yeah i used to think razzle dazzle i gotta i gotta do it you know yeah yeah it's you know they're just listening i

29:18Denis Leary:just want to ask you one question we just aren't loud because we don't want to wake them right we

29:23Dana Carvey:have most people are taking naps go to sleep and don't turn it off and pile through like 20 of our podcasts yeah they don't remember them they don't add up to add dollars so my name i looked it up i before but i did again county sligo carvey in gaelic ogarbian means rough or rugged that's a mess that fits take that larry what's leary i looked up leary it's calf keeper unusually feminism feminist so i had the joke and i went too far god you messed it up i've

30:01David Spade:up but it means calf keeper and actually in gail calf calf calf like a cow calf keeper oh

30:10Dana Carvey:we're all farmers in ireland yeah we my people used to beat up cows

30:16David Spade:they were so rugged hey let me ask you guys this you can ask anything i know i can right because I'm a guest. So when this thing started, it was just people from Saturday Night Live that were connected because that's, you know, I keyed in because I was interested in that. So now, have you cycled through all the SNL people and now you're going to other shows?

30:39Dana Carvey:Well, we just had Marcelo Hernandez.

30:41Denis Leary:I saw parts of that one.

30:43Dana Carvey:Yeah, so we still do have that element, but, you know, you must have auditioned for Saturday Night Live.

30:49David Spade:No, never.

30:50Dana Carvey:You must have seen it.

30:52David Spade:Well, of course I saw it. I didn't. They asked me to host it too. When I first got famous and I had too much respect for what you guys were doing to fucking. What year was that? Thank you. 92, 93. They, they, he asked me. We would have been there. Oh, you ended up, you did an impression of me and some bit there. Oh, that's right. I did. Right. But I knew you, I knew a couple of guys there. I knew Quinn and I knew fucking Chris Rock and a couple of people. And I was like, oh, people were doing like, so I had too much respect for that. And also why on my debt, my week off from making something and doing press, what I want, instead of just doing a talk show, which is hard enough to make sure you fucking come out funny on a talk show.

31:36Denis Leary:Yeah.

31:36David Spade:What I want to fucking work my balls off for seven days.

31:39Denis Leary:It's a tough week. Crazy. So I never did an honor. That's why it's an honor. You would have done great.

31:47Dana Carvey:You would have done great. Stand ups do great. I was the last guy to do a Disney movie

31:53Denis Leary:where they said it was an honor and that's why I didn't get a lot of money and then they came out with Shrek and everyone got 5 million bucks I go wait what the fuck is going on

32:01David Spade:what was the Disney movie you did

32:03Denis Leary:it's called Emperor's New Groove I played a llama

32:07Dana Carvey:he got 18 ,000 the movie made 100 billion

32:11Denis Leary:no I got 75 ,000 which sounds like a lot it was a lot

32:16Dana Carvey:that's not a lot not for it was a big cartoon it's a three those fucking cocksuckers ripped

32:22David Spade:you off they rat fucked me and you say cocksucker yeah you can say anything those motherfuckers

32:28Dana Carvey:no but you can say rat fuck you can't say cocksucker but you can say rat fucker

32:33Denis Leary:no i did and it kept going and going and i'm like guys i don't want to drive out to disney and just lay down an hour or two of trucks i'm like dennis leary i got shit to do on my day off yeah and so they're like it's just gonna be now we redid the script i'm doing scenes i don't even know what's going on i love the movie now but i was during it i was starting to get a little itchy like i don't know there's no ending yeah it does i mean it did it was fine i really love it but uh and then they they're miracle workers with the freaking animation you did one you did zanzibar

33:04David Spade:what was it called matter of fact i did too i did uh bug's life uh uh that was a You played an aphid? What?

33:13Denis Leary:I don't know.

33:14David Spade:What is that?

33:15Denis Leary:You played an aphid? I'm trying to think of bug.

33:17David Spade:I played a ladybug.

33:18Dana Carvey:Was that Jerry's time cults movie too? Was that Jerry's movie? No.

33:22Denis Leary:That's an ant's life.

33:24Dana Carvey:Oh, okay. Yeah. It was a ripoff.

33:28David Spade:Jerry was bees.

33:29Denis Leary:Oh, he was a bee. That's right. Oh, that's right. Bugs are getting movies.

33:32David Spade:He was an insect. So what were you actually? By the way, I should take this opportunity since we brought it up. Ice Age 6 is coming out next year. There is not an I say I swear to God.

33:46Dana Carvey:Ray Romano is going to get another check.

33:49Denis Leary:No, that's Madagascar. I think. Oh, OK. No, that is. I say I say. Leguizamo and I'm going to go into numbers.

33:59Dana Carvey:Maybe it's rude. But you're a lion. Did you get a bump? Did you get a bump for this one?

34:05David Spade:We got bumps for all of them. So basically. a bigger they didn't know this but i guess they were discussing you know the problem is these movies and it's a plus it's not a problem they're getting streamed like crazy so so now they can see the numbers of what's really streaming so the ice age movies apparently by adults and kids were getting streamed like crazy ray and i were making a tv show for netflix together at the time this is like two years ago um called no good deed so we were working together every day. I was playing his brother. And, and we both came into work one morning in the makeup trailer and we're like, Hey, did your agent call you that?

34:45David Spade:I was like, yeah, my agent called me. They didn't know that we were working together and they wanted to start negotiations with me and Ray and Leguizamo to see if we would be interested in doing it. So we did the right thing, which was like, we, we basically all three of us said, Hey, we need to see the script and, you know, make sure it's that, you know, it's not just, it's going to be good. play hard to get play hard to get plus we need a lot of money so um it worked out and did netflix buy it off of what dreamworks or whatever it was no i don't fucking know who owns it now i know

35:18Denis Leary:because you know they're they do movies now where like happy gilmore they i think they bought it

35:23David Spade:off of sony i mean i don't know did they really that the most recent happy gilmore yeah because they done netflix and the first one was sony yeah yeah right yeah that fucking thing is such a monster man yeah it's a monster movie right so yeah of course they'd pay for it everybody saw it

35:41Denis Leary:if they can yeah if they can do it they go oh now there's a breakthrough we can buy movies we never

35:46David Spade:had well now they're doing they sandler signed with them pretty early about that stuff which makes sense because yeah right by the way how about fucking the actor sandler has turned himself it's unbelievable one hidden what was it gem yeah he's really turned himself into a great character actor but at the same time he's going to make funny movies that fucking the whole world sees so why wouldn't you want that guy in your lineup this goes back to the reality there's no more movies anymore it's all fucking street

36:19Dana Carvey:no movies don't really yeah I don't know why they make anything besides a cartoon or a big action movie that's it yeah yeah well the competition i have a low

36:34Denis Leary:budget movie and we're trying to figure out what to do with it and we're like do you even want to try theaters everyone seems like that sounds so fun but i go you don't want to get smoked by the avenger i mean you you're not going to how would you compete with anything yeah you want to be

36:49David Spade:streaming more people will see your fucking movie on a friday night than we'll see it if you ran it The theater's for a year.

36:55Denis Leary:I mean, just romance of like, oh, I'm in a theater, but I've had theaters and I've had streaming. Streaming, it goes worldwide in one second. It's out.

37:03Dana Carvey:If you don't have the advertising budget, then there's going to be three people in there and nothing will, any comedy will bomb. And then it looks weird. Maybe Blazing Saddles would have bombed. It was just two people.

37:14David Spade:Listen, who's going to go to the theater? Who are they going to go see? Tom Cruise, right? Still, apparently. fucking big marvel movies which are again they're on the wane as well and then you get every once in a while you get that if spielberg has a big movie an action movie he's got one coming out somewhere i'm going yeah yeah so i mean otherwise you might as well be fucking you know streaming

37:37Denis Leary:because i like the theater and about five seven years ago is the first time i had walked out on some clankers and i usually would just go for the whole fun of going and then you buy all the shit and you sit in the back and you watch i just liked it all and then suddenly the movies were too shitty i don't know what happened at a certain point i go i can't do the whole two and a half hours because sometimes they really rat fuck you with a long movie you go get in and out you don't

38:03David Spade:know what are you doing 90 minutes for a comedy come on right 80 80 and then you do the outtakes for 10 what are we fucking doing it's two and a half hour movies you know very few people can get

38:16Dana Carvey:away with that shit fucking for nolan will you know there's certain people you kind of go i got to see that but it is i don't have this problem but i watch movies at home and then my wife's got her phone and it's a chain with her family dang you know the dinner bell you know it's the death scene or whatever they're attacking so i do like once in a while a dark theater it's dead empty I'm sitting in the back. I turn everything off and it doesn't even matter as long as there's some things moving around. It's meditative. It's like all the noise. Only in church or a movie theater do they ask you. Or maybe even on takeoff, I see people on their iPhone in a plane, you know?

38:58David Spade:Yeah.

38:59Dana Carvey:Anyway, comment.

39:00David Spade:How about the fucking thing? You're not allowed in my house. If you're at my house, this goes for my kids. Although my son and my daughter are pretty respectful because they're in the business of like, they're not going to watch a Scorsese movie on a fucking iPhone. How many times have you been in an airport and walked by some guys watching Goodfellas on an iPhone? Yeah. I mean, what are you, or on their fucking iPad? Apocalypse Now is really good, man.

39:27Dana Carvey:There's a lot of helicopters.

39:28David Spade:Yeah. You're not fucking, you can't have your phone, you know, going at the, When I watch the Superbowl, I watch the fucking Superbowl. You're not talking about other shit around me. while I'm watching the fucking Super Bowl. Okay? Even during the halftime show, you could maybe talk a little. But I'm watching the game, okay? So I'm not fucking...

39:49Dana Carvey:I totally agree. I don't want to be where a lot of people are talking about other topics. It's third and long. This is, you know. Yeah, yeah.

39:56Denis Leary:The problem is I have so much football knowledge. I sometimes bless the people with a couple things like, oh, the refs missed that one. I say stuff like that.

40:05David Spade:Yeah.

40:06Denis Leary:Everyone appreciates it.

40:08David Spade:he's got what's that you watch yesterday yeah

40:13Denis Leary:you mean four months ago when the super bowl

40:15Dana Carvey:was we're releasing this episode in july but it's the super bowl and yes we did watch

40:21David Spade:it i saw it

40:23Dana Carvey:and uh i like bad bunny

40:25David Spade:i'm not a i don't i'm not a bad bunny fan i don't want any of his music but i like the show

40:29Dana Carvey:you like bad bunny and you can't like

40:31David Spade:that playing yeah you know

40:33Dana Carvey:it was theatrical it was i was so

40:35David Spade:tempted to go see how bad the fucking alternative show was with Kid Rock and the three country stars nobody outside of fucking Nashville's ever heard of who are these guys I like some country music who the fuck are these

40:51Denis Leary:guys I have to say if you got a big show get your biggest get Carrie Underwood in there get somebody we've heard of I agree I have a piece of trivia that Dana I shouldn't tell you about

41:03Dana Carvey:I was going to pitch an alternative Oscar live streaming. If you don't want to watch the Oscars, watch us three talking about the movies. Go ahead, David. Sorry.

41:13David Spade:Yeah. That's not a bad idea. After the opening monologue, I'm only interested because I'm interested in the comedian doing the monologue. Then I don't give a fuck.

41:21Dana Carvey:You've seen all the movies that are going to be up for Oscars, right?

41:25David Spade:We've all been at these awards show. I think I was at the Emmys one year when you fucking hosted. like it takes forever even when you're there it fucking sucks right right so an alternative broadcast is really fucking funny like like a fucking manning cast of the emmys and the oscars where like the three of us are making comments about what's going on on the show if you're

41:46Denis Leary:allowed to do that anything where you can comment is genius because that's all people do in the living room i think we have a fucking idea here it's possible doesn't have to be the three of us

41:55David Spade:but three comedians fucking comment on the fucking golden globes or the Emmys or the Oscars as they're happening. That has got to have been done before.

42:05Denis Leary:I don't know why they haven't done it because it's every living room. I think the problem is licensing to show a show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But if you, I looked into this a little bit because that old mystery science theater, I liked. Yes. And the reason why they did old shitty movies is because that's the only one they could clear. Right. Right. So I'm losing you guys with this showbiz lingo, but clearing means, how do I explain it? Anyway, so it would be really fun to do that. And here's my trivia about the halftime show, Dana, which I'll tell you again this week on when we do our own.

42:42Dana Carvey:I want to hear.

42:44Denis Leary:The Bushes during Bad Bunny were people. Oh, really? They were people in Bush costumes. no they weren't and at the end i saw a video they're all walking off all the bushes are AI bullshit man AI bullshit i think it's real let's look it up heather greg

43:08David Spade:we'll save that for this week i find really interesting is that that spade and you i mean how did that partnership come about i mean i know the snl connection but whose idea was it which one of you said to the other hey what if we did

43:29Denis Leary:well i was having dinner with dana once in a while in la because dana was a favorite and a bud from the old days always the we started going to dinner at this restaurant and he didn't live here and then when he was i realized he was near me i said hey you want to go eat and he would come and we'd have a beer and bullshit and we'd always get around to snl stuff because we all know all our friends and shit yeah yeah and i was in the i wanted to try a podcast a long time ago i just couldn't figure out someone to do it with and uh somehow with dana and i talking of course it would take dana doing it but i would rather have someone like dana that you know you get someone famous or you could do it with someone totally unknown it's like a sidekick that just and you just talk pretty much right but if dana was good talker hysterical and then we just said well maybe we should try something like this and that was the fun because you get someone that's a home run hitter here well it was also in the treading days of like

44:30Dana Carvey:you know conan came in and other people and rogan became humongous and it was like this podcasting thing is like is you know because for a long time it's like well is there any money in it because i did one without a company it was just called fantastic available and it was just for fun and david came on that and david's really fun to bounce off stuff with oh that was sort of like a pilot

44:53Denis Leary:because once we did that we're like this is funny we're just around yeah that was the key right was

44:58Dana Carvey:that you both were funny so the thing was funny yeah yeah and just uh you know we're friends you know so it's like we don't have to pretend or we're put together by some kind of conglomerate you know now we work for a conglomerate and um you're too busy to do a podcast no i first of all i don't

45:16David Spade:have the people have asked me but again i don't have the yeah you know what i mean like i don't have the time because i'm always on location or whatever but i was like i don't fucking i was like you like i don't want to do it unless it's going to be something funny i want to just fucking no offense i don't want to talk to people if it's not going to be fun to people the emmy winning

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46:16Dana Carvey:Oh, yeah, huh. Discover's accepted where I like to shop. Come on, baby, get with the times.

46:22David Spade:Right, so we shouldn't get the parachute pants?

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47:47Denis Leary:Oh, I want to hear why. Now, you guys shoot in Ireland. Is that fun to shoot?

47:52Dana Carvey:Going Dutch is on Fox TV. It's on Fox and Hulu.

47:57David Spade:At Hulu. More people want it on Hulu than they do on Fox. Is that true? Yeah, because the linear world is fucking, you know.

48:04Denis Leary:Linear.

48:05David Spade:Linear television is just an excuse for sports now. So, you know, it's like Hulu is where you live, right?

48:11Dana Carvey:Sports dominates everything. I mean, because it's live and everything else is like, yeah, I'll get to it next time.

48:19Denis Leary:That's why Netflix wants live stuff, because they go live is really the best thing you can't get.

48:23David Spade:Yeah, they fucking paid a guy to climb a building.

48:25Denis Leary:Yeah.

48:26David Spade:Not enough, by the way. They didn't pay him enough.

48:29Denis Leary:We talked about that.

48:30David Spade:I saw you guys talking about it. You guys were right. But, okay, just because... How does a guy not get a fucking at least a million?

48:39Denis Leary:I was going to kick in.

48:40David Spade:I thought your idea was funny. You guys were like, I'll go up in the elevator. I'll do stand-up on the 20-minute stand-up there.

48:48Dana Carvey:250.

48:49Denis Leary:A corporate gig. Give me a corporate gig. I'll go close to the window and look out for five minutes. That's scary enough.

48:56David Spade:I'll go all the way up to the top. I'm not going to go outside, but I'll sing the asshole song in the top of the building. And then come back down. 15 grand.

49:06Denis Leary:15K cash. No taxes.

49:08Dana Carvey:15 net.

49:09Denis Leary:I will go to the town.

49:11Dana Carvey:I'll look at the two binoculars.

49:14Denis Leary:Yeah.

49:15Dana Carvey:Three Hail Marys. Okay.

49:18David Spade:50K net. You pay that guy, right? You pay him$400 ,000 to climb to the top. I will be across another building outside with a railing,

49:28Denis Leary:and I will sing the asshole song for$600 ,000. I'll go up the escalator at Cheesecake Factory in Uggs. They're not that grippy.

49:38Dana Carvey:I love it always ends with, I will sing the asshole song. I know the asshole song. It's the only thing I have to offer.

49:43Denis Leary:It's part of it. Yeah, I got to have it. Without that, it's a no deal.

49:47Dana Carvey:Anyway, this show, because they're going to ask you later. I mean, this show going Dutch, you're like this Pat. And I saw some of your stuff. You're like this military or army colonel ghosted the Netherlands where there's this outlier base and they're like Gomer Pyle or it's dysfunctional and you got to whip him into shape. And it's filmed in Ireland.

50:06Denis Leary:Yes. I was going to say, go to the Netherlands to a studio.

50:10Dana Carvey:Because you're Irish?

50:11Denis Leary:No, no, no, no, no.

50:13David Spade:The problem is. I know, it's financial. So it's no, it's based on a real base. It actually existed. So the showrunner is this guy, Joel Church Cooper, a brilliant writer. He did Brockmire with Hank Azaria. Right. I was a huge fan. So he approached us about like wanting to work together. And it's like, yeah. He said, listen, I know a guy that was stationed at this base, this American base in the Netherlands, that the only reason it existed was to do the laundry for the other 32 NATO bases in Europe and to deliver wine and cheese to each base. But because it was in the Netherlands, you have to hire a certain amount of Dutch citizens to work on the base.

50:56David Spade:Prostitution is legal and drugs are legal. So what ended up happening was, of course, is it became a den for, you know, for illegal drugs and which you can't blame. So they shut the base down. This guy was stationed there, this advisor that we had. So we loved the idea. we didn't want to shoot anywhere near the Dutch government or the American military base that had been shut down. So Ireland looks just like the Netherlands in terms of the land and the color of the landscape and the weather. So, and Ireland has a thriving film and TV industry. So it was a double plus for me because that's where my parents are from.

51:39David Spade:And that's, I have like 150 cousins there. So, uh, it was, it was a blast for it's, it's always a blast to go back there. Cause my cousins come and visit the set. My cousins like walk on the set and they're like, Hey, I know the DP. I went to high school with him. You know? So it's like the country's small, you know? Um, and they gave us a military base for us to shoot up.

51:59Dana Carvey:I mean, Rob Lowe told us that his, his game show, the floor. Yes. Shoots there. It shoots there. It's still cheaper. I think it's 700 people or whatever. I mean, hundreds of american citizens they fly to ireland put them up for months yeah and it's still exponentially cheaper than hollywood what's good is it because of all the strikes where everything

52:20David Spade:is so expensive no it's because of the union rules right so but it's also because everybody gives tax breaks i mean boston gives tax breaks fucking uh atlanta huge you know

52:32Denis Leary:why don't la give tax because i we did both grown-ups movies in boston oh a couple people remember thank you uh and so we went to fucking swamp squad swapskate um by the way i saw both

52:48David Spade:grown-ups movies multiple times because i liked them and i knew a bunch of you guys so i was like i'm gonna watch this but then my kids were like oh adam sandler the grown-ups yeah that's a fun

52:58Denis Leary:one for families it's a good family movie actually how much things have changed that in the first

53:03Dana Carvey:grown-ups the reviews and the way they used to our friend adam again the way they would just shit on adam sandler for so long and we all knew he was brilliant and he's not trying to make apocalypse now he's making a family comedy i i sent him a text ago no this is a really really great funny movie not that he needed it but yeah he goes oh first of all this by the way

53:26David Spade:fucking murderers row of people in both those movies are the cast right yeah every every single person because and i know it's saturday live heavy but who gives a fuck everybody's a fucking killer who comes into the into the cast so number one number two they're fucking funny movies number three now he's it's the last laugh is on them because he's turned into a great actor and he can make big funny movies yeah yeah he can he can do both yeah yeah i mean i don't know if you guys saw jay kelly the movie with uh yeah cluny where he's playing the manager man it's fucking he's side by side with a true hall of fame movie star, a guy that can do anything.

54:05David Spade:Right. And look, there's Santa.

54:07Denis Leary:I think they're finally coming around. It's taken forever, but they're all finally like, he was at the Santa Barbara film festival this weekend. I'm like, yeah, finally. And it must be, it's just, I'm sure he feels weird about it. Like, where were you guys? Like you just stepped on his neck for so long.

54:22Dana Carvey:There's a herd mentality. Yeah. It's a herd mentality for sure. You know, and it goes like that. How are your reviews throughout your time? I don't know what they were.

54:33David Spade:They were. They were great. I get well, they were great for Nokia for cancer. They were great. You know, when I for certain movies like The Ref, which is still a great movie. Yeah. Yeah. But I did. I had to learn how to act as I first became famous because I was a theater actor and I didn't have a lot of experience in front of the camera. um so i made you know i i made like the sandlot which was the first movie i did but i did that movie because i thought like oh i could this is a different part for me and i'll this will help me learn how to act on camera because it's very small in terms of performance uh in terms of the size of the performance and then i did like fucking because i had two kids i you know i was again no credit cards when I first got famous and I had two babies so I was like I did Demolition Man with fucking Stallone.

55:27David Spade:That's alright.

55:27Denis Leary:Stallone and Schneider? Yeah.

55:29David Spade:I loved that. It was great. I loved Stallone. You know what? He was the nicest fucking guy.

55:37Dana Carvey:Oh yeah, he's old school.

55:39David Spade:He was such a pro.

55:41Dana Carvey:You know, I liked your thing. You know, no kid for cancer. You know what I'm talking about? What?

55:46David Spade:He was such a fucking men and he I've told this story before but like I was I'm fresh off the fucking tree right yeah and I just did a tiny little baseball movie with a bunch of kids and um and I go to first day on on Demolition Man to do the costume changes and uh so they go you're going to go into the I think it was Warner Brothers you're going to go on the lot they're going to show you the outfits and everything and you're going to meet Sly he's going to be there and I was like oh great so I go and you know it's all science fiction shit so they put me in this fucking metallic stupid shit yeah and then they go uh hey sly's here and he wants you to go up down the you know a couple stages down he wants to say hi so i'm walking i'm in science fiction fucking demolition gear yeah and i when i first pulled in i saw this giant batting cage like off in the distance and i was like i wonder why they have a batting cage well now i'm walking and i turn this corner with this fucking PA and he's like, yeah, he's right here.

56:46David Spade:And it's a giant fucking net for driving golf balls. And Stallone is in his Demolition Man outfit with the boots and everything. And there's a golf pro guy dressed like a golf pro. And he's just driving ball. Fuck, I can't fucking slice it again. You're good. Pretty good sound. Fucking awesome. And he's like, hey, Dennis, it's nice to meet you. Hey, you something when we're shooting this guy's with me all the time you want to you want to hit some

57:16Denis Leary:balls get some lessons this is the every they're always on the set every day every night for

57:23David Spade:anybody that a golf pro we shot in a fucking shopping mall like fucking 30 minutes from la the fucking golf pros there yeah we shoot on the lot the golf every day the golf pro was there

57:34Denis Leary:that fantastic was sandy bullock in that yeah yeah yeah she was yeah she replaced

57:41David Spade:we had to shut the movie down to replace Lori Petty was the girl who played her first really?

57:50Denis Leary:what happened? I don't know I went to work one day tell us the story what? I said Dennis tell us the story I don't have the fucking story no I'm kidding we're looking for a banger

58:06David Spade:listen if you land on Sandra Bullock

58:10Denis Leary:you're fine

58:10David Spade:Yeah, it was such a huge paycheck. One day we went to work and they're like, all right, we're going to end up going over. Everybody had penalties written into the contract. Again, this is my first big Hollywood paycheck. And they go, Sly, fucking, he was hitting golf balls so hard. He busted a fucking... He's always breaking. And so we're taking three weeks off, but you're going to get paid. And I was like, fuck, that's awesome. I love it. a three week vacation where I fucking got paid because Stallone was trying to kill the golf ball.

58:45Denis Leary:You're not even supposed to be doing anything when you're doing it.

58:49Dana Carvey:Was Rob Schneider in that too? Yeah.

58:53Denis Leary:Give me a club. What are they doing?

58:55Dana Carvey:These aliens are attacking us, sir.

58:57Denis Leary:You got a seven iron? I think he was

59:00David Spade:wasn't Rob like his character was like he was in an office.

59:06Denis Leary:Yeah.

59:07David Spade:Like his character on SNL.

59:08Denis Leary:and then he got copy machine guy in the demo carried away with the action

59:12Dana Carvey:or something a regular guy hang on a second

59:15David Spade:my dogs are broken I got you yeah what

59:18Denis Leary:I think I'm having a break in

59:20David Spade:my wife is coming home from shopping so the dog's going fucking crazy it's alright

59:24Denis Leary:well you're done anyway but we were just saying Suicide Kings draft day he's got some fucking bangers in here man yeah you've had quite a time

59:32Dana Carvey:the only last question I have for you is when was the first time because you're with the original wife you know the before wife so are you right yeah and so there's a given time where it's like you know you're having success and you're starting to make money like real money and you're sort of like i guess we're kind of rich now you you weren't rich but in relative terms i don't know when that happened for you we've went we're making a lot of money right now it's kind of a heady thing that happens to people get successful in show business yeah it was a first well that was right around

1:00:06David Spade:that period because it went from zero to 60 so quick. Right. I did that Sandlot movie. The, you know. So you got paid for that. Well, I got paid for that. But then because of the rushes, there was there was a good word of mouth on that movie.

1:00:25Denis Leary:Well, they like the dailies and previews.

1:00:28David Spade:So now they know I can act. So they're like, you know, fucking Jeffrey Katzenberg was running all those branches of Disney movies at the time, Touchstone, all those. So he was like, we had this script called The Ref, which was written by a friend of mine, Richard LaGravines, who had already been nominated for an Oscar for that Robin Williams movie, The Fisher King. So it was an Oscar nominated writer, Ted Demme, one of my best friends who was - You're all buddies, yeah. Yeah, he did my MTV spots. So we had that script. So not only did they want us to make that movie but they gave me and ted deals like free picture deals oh automatically there's just a ton of money and then i'm doing like fucking demolition man judgment night you know all these big movies so like we had a lot of money all of a sudden from having nothing um right yeah that's how it happens yeah so and it was great and i was learning how to act as i went along so i'm like this is i knew i wanted to be like a character actor because that had longevity because I knew the standup you can always do, right?

1:01:35David Spade:Yeah, you can always go back to it. Yeah, exactly. So, and I was fucking getting to work with like, you know, you guys know that. It's like you're working with your heroes.

1:01:44Denis Leary:Yeah, it's so fun.

1:01:45David Spade:Or meeting them for sure. Yeah. Guys, I got to tell you, one of the, I met so many fucking and worked with so many of my heroes, but I got to tell you, you guys know this to be true. I did this movie called Small Soldiers with Phil Hartman. Of course. And Small Soldiers was like, you know, it's a lot of fucking. That's right. Generated dolls. Right. Yes. And the rest of the movie is alive human beings. So me, Jay Moore, David Cross and Phil. Those are like the four male leads. Right.

1:02:18Dana Carvey:Hilarious people.

1:02:19David Spade:Yeah. Fucking Phil. I mean, Judy. And the director was Joe Dante. And he wanted us to improvise and stuff and play around. um we that guy fucking made us laugh sometimes he was making me laugh so hard while we were shooting the scenes the director would go you guys have to leave and phil has to act to a

1:02:37Denis Leary:tennis ball because we couldn't stop laughing yeah yeah phil i could see phil in that character

1:02:44David Spade:really knowing how to just fuck and provide it he was so fucking funny dude that's awesome and you know like i one of my favorite characters he did was unfrozen caveman Oh, shit.

1:02:55Dana Carvey:Reference that frequently as like Jack Handy and Phil Hartman brilliance. It's so hesitant, but it never leaves your head.

1:03:03David Spade:It's so fucking – and once I told him that was my favorite guy, like there was a lot of characters. I love this. But I just said, like, I think that's my favorite. He would just fucking break that guy out on set. Yeah.

1:03:15Dana Carvey:Your Honor, I am but a simple caveman. Yeah. I am but a simple caveman. And it's very Jack Handy, the writer who writes in such a different lane than anybody in history.

1:03:29David Spade:He's also a great fucking actor, man.

1:03:31Dana Carvey:Fucking great actor.

1:03:32David Spade:Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. He could do it all. He made me laugh so fucking hard. As you guys do.

1:03:43Denis Leary:Hey, guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app. Give us a review, five-star rating, and maybe even share an episode that you've loved with a friend. If you're watching this episode on YouTube, please subscribe. We're on video now! Fly on the Wall is presented by Odyssey, an executive produced by Danny Carvey and David Spade, Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman, Maddie Sprung-Kaiser, and Leah Reese-Dennis of Odyssey.

1:04:11Dana Carvey:Our senior producer is Greg Holtzman, and the show is produced and edited by Phil Sweet-Tech. Booking by Cultivated Entertainment. Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura Curran, Melissa Wester, Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kirk Courtney, and Lauren Vieira.

1:04:34Denis Leary:Reach out with us. Any questions to be asked and answered on the show, you can email us at flyonthewallatodyssey.com. That's A-U-D-A-C-Y dot com.

1:04:49Thank you.

From the publisher

It’s triple D today: Denis, David, and Dana. That’s right—Denis Leary, aka Conan O’Brien’s comedy cousin, joins the pod to reminisce about the Boston comedy scene of the ’80s, including his time at Emerson College’s Comedy Workshop. Denis gets into why he never did Saturday Night Live—even though he would’ve landed there during the guys’ era—and reflects on his iconic film roles, including Demolition Man, plus what it was like golfing with Sylvester Stallone.

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