Dennis Miller Energy; Big Peacocks; F Spade Money

14 Jul 2025 · 53 min · 20 chapters

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In short

Fly on the Wall episode mixing “hard news” commentary with comedy bits. Main segments: speculation about the Jeffrey Epstein “files” and his death circumstances; discussion of the Diddy (Sean Combs) trial status; humorous nature/animal observations (pigeons/peacocks); tech-AI money talk (Sam Altman/OpenAI training system and Zuckerberg’s reported $15B); social commentary on taxes, homelessness/crime, and “deadbeat dad” consequences; viral video reactions (models in water, “human carpet” performance art, prom outhouse prank, scatological/sexualized clips); acting-audition advice; closing “guess what’s in the mystery box.”

Guests

No named guests appear. The hosts are David Spade and Dana Carvey (with Heather Santoro mentioned as part of production/crew).

Key claims

Epstein death details (camera malfunction, guards asleep, cellmate murderer) raise “who benefited” and blackmail questions; Pam Bondi’s “we have no evidence/list” reversal is viewed skeptically; Diddy’s dismissed charges suggest he may get a reduced sentence and be back performing; Altman’s influence is framed as potentially steering “how people think,” with huge valuation numbers.

Notable examples

Epstein Instagram “100 celebrities” list talk; Diddy racketeering/sex trafficking trial; peacock as NBC/“Peacock” streaming name joke; Zuckerberg/Altman $15B; viral “human carpet” sidewalk stepping; museum false-floor masturbation story; deadbeat dad tackled by hired man.

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Chapters

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Behind the Scenes of 'Busboys'

0:21 to 1:23

Dana and David share insights about their project 'Busboys' and its progress.

Comedy Essentials in Movies

1:23 to 2:40

Discussion on what makes a comedy film memorable and successful.

“So basically, as long as a basic story tracks, but no one's going to leave it going, that story tracks so well.”

Epstein Files Discussion

2:40 to 4:08

Hosts delve into the controversial news surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's case.

“So we'll see and we'll catch you up more on that later.”

Theories and Speculations on Epstein

4:08 to 8:56

Exploration of various theories regarding Epstein's death and its implications.

“He flies Bill Clinton down there 13 times and other celebrities to the island.”

Diddy Trial Updates

8:56 to 10:20

Latest updates and commentary on the ongoing trial involving Diddy.

“This is exactly why the cameras didn't work.”

Pigeons and Nature's Courtship

10:20 to 14:00

Humorous observations on animal behaviors and courtship rituals.

“And then there was a Diddy trial, which I don't think is over yet as of this press time.”

Peacock Tales and NBC Origins

14:00 to 16:53

Discussion on the symbolism of peacocks and NBC's branding history.

“I just jumped 1 ,000 feet and then flew down.”

The Cost of AI and Tech Ventures

16:53 to 19:16

Exploration of the financial dynamics behind AI development and tech investments.

“He's not going to have to be a chest thumper with the ladies, all right?”

Trading Players and Sports Contracts

19:16 to 21:56

Insights into sports trades and the financial implications for players.

“Your boy Kevin Love gave me a shout out yesterday.”

Tax Conversations and Financial Awareness

21:56 to 24:26

Light-hearted discussion on taxes and financial literacy among young earners.

“If you want to work full time or you don't want, you are by lifestyle.”
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California's Complicated Tax System

24:26 to 28:00

A candid look at California's tax issues and societal implications.

“i've never paid taxes in my life you never paid taxes no okay well so i haven't either i don't I really don't know even what taxes means.”

Observations on Urban Life and Safety

28:00 to 30:28

Insights into the challenging dynamics of urban living, crime, and safety concerns.

“I think in California, a lot of people, once it's up in your face, then they're sort of like, you know, what, what, what, what?”

Models and Fashion Humor

30:28 to 31:43

Discussion about models in bizarre situations and fashion trends.

“I find a large mouth lunker bass in the pocket.”

Funny Prom Moments

31:43 to 33:48

Comic anecdotes about prom experiences and creative ideas.

“They get sucked down the drain and you do a raffle to see which one's still alive.”

Art and Performance Comedy

33:48 to 35:48

A humorous take on performance art and quirky artistic expressions.

“No, we don't go scatter all the people very much.”

Deadbeat Dads and Parenting

35:48 to 41:17

A comedic exploration of deadbeat dads and the frustrations of single mothers.

“He's still around, but he had a career and whatever.”

Hair Care and Comedy

41:17 to 42:05

Lighthearted discussion on hair routines and personal grooming.

“Why do I keep forgetting to buy some of those?”

Hair Routines and Special Outfits

42:05 to 44:21

Dana and David share their hair routines and thoughts on outfit choices for performances.

“It looked like something you would wear.”

Advice for Aspiring Actors

44:22 to 47:22

The hosts discuss auditioning challenges and share valuable advice for newcomers in acting.

“I'm an actress a year and a half out of college looking for theater work.”

Show Appreciation and Upcoming Content

47:23 to 49:19

Dana and David thank listeners, hint at future content, and share closing thoughts.

“For some reason, the comedy all improvised, no script.”
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Transcript

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0:00Dana Carvey:I think we're starting. Hello and welcome to Fly on the Wall. Without a guess is what we call it. Our segment called Standing or Sitting. So we talk about news and what's going on and we don't really know anything. And everyone loves to point that out. We're two idiots talking. Who cares? Good for us. so uh we have strong opinions we're passionate alpha males and we we want to express ourselves but we we're not saying we're correct but right by the way i saw i'm watching right now another rough cut of busboys it's getting closer to being shown to people show it to people we have no bosses people don't know this we paid for ourselves we're just going to show it see if anybody wants to put out anywhere or we'll just put it out and say press here by watch so i've only heard about buzzboys for quite some time yes and i'm uh maybe too long no but i haven't seen a frame not nothing just hearing about like what what do you guys look like together where are you going how's it shot i'm very very curious yeah i'll show you one quick uh like one minute thing we have about it Not a real trailer, but something Theo shows on the road.

1:21I'm excited.

1:22Dana Carvey:It's a silly comedy. So basically, as long as a basic story tracks, but no one's going to leave it going, that story tracks so well. But just enough. And then you need, I'd say in an 80-minute movie, you probably need three banger scenes. I'm serious. And then other little laughs, or at least two big scenes. That's all you really need. You just need some memorable ones. Remember Deuce Bigelow, Schneider, the movie that did great, was really sold off the trailer with him in gravity inversion boats swinging and hitting an aquarium and ripping it down and a full stunt crash, fish and water everywhere.

2:04And it was like, I'm going to that.

2:06Dana Carvey:I think that, yeah, you could, you know, sometimes with comedies, I think Rob cued into that. if the sound broke, like you didn't have any sound, you still would be laughing a lot of the time. You know, funny with the sound off. I remember in the beginning, Schneider had some guy go use the restroom and he was peeing for like two minutes and it was like a fire hose. And it was just Rob's reactions. Yeah, that's funny. It was just funny still. Yeah, there's some stuff. So we'll see and we'll catch you up more on that later. In the news, there's a big mention of this Epstein files thing. Any thoughts on that?

2:50Dana Carvey:It's kind of the news of the week. I would set the table with this idea that it's not like an overriding obsession with me. But the secondary premise is, is anyone anywhere in the world, someone of power or government or politician or important person, quote unquote, hiding something? Is there because the circumstances of how he died, he attempted suicide a few days before and doesn't make it. Then he goes back. He has a cellmate that's a that's a murderer. Apparently, the cameras either malfunction. There was a technical issue. The two guys to watch him fell asleep or got confused. I mean, it's so much stuff where you're not even interested to go.

3:43Dana Carvey:Well, what? What? It's so many things happen at once. If this is Columbo, I'm going back to the 70s. Or if this is Law and Order or whatever. Excuse me. Is this your dog? Excuse me. I don't want to buy it here. But I just have this wondering about why he would hang himself. Paging Kevin Pollak to do that impression. But so, you know. Is someone lying? And just what the fuck happened? Just tell us. Well, also, you can see lists. Like, they take a picture on Instagram. It's a list of 100 celebrities. Everyone's like, this is the real. but i've seen ones that drew barrymore i've seen one like there's people you go this isn't anything well it's also smart obfuscation is if you want to just exaggerate add people and who knows if there was a list when i someone told me and i'm not conspiratorious that commercial story is i had a couple pops before the show and they said there's this guy named jeffrey epstein he's he's incredibly rich no one knows how he got the money he has a secret island or an island.

4:47Dana Carvey:He flies Bill Clinton down there 13 times and other celebrities to the island. Right. He has young girls that are, you know, 15, 16, 17-year-old girls that have sex with these famous, powerful men and they're secretly recorded. And then that is used as blackmail and political leverage forever. And I just go, well, that sounds like a conspiracy, a total fantasy. But then I found out there is a guy named Jeff Ramstein. He does have an island. Bill Clinton did go on the island. There's certain things we know. So then you're like, well, what else is going on? I'm not going to let you talk because I want the spade.

5:24Well, I mean, I think, A, there could be a list, like this famous list. Let's say they get the real list and the flight logs. But if it's Bill Clinton or Bill Gates, I would rather see a video of them doing something wrong because who cares? I mean, we just watched the Puffy trial. It doesn't mean anything. It's all circumstantial. So there is a list. So there's an island, so they knew him. Now, did they go there? Did they do anything? Is there proof they did anything? That's what people really, really want. They don't just want to say, oh, I heard this or this. They've heard that for years. And also what could be happening is now they say he hung himself.

6:04No controversy, no list, no nothing. Which also sounds weird, right?

6:10Dana Carvey:Well, why was there$290 million payout? from morgan stanley it was jeffrey epstein's bank to toward the victims why is his right-hand woman if anyone had a little and it wouldn't be a little black book it might be digital or in code or whatever why is she in jail for sex trafficking so and then why what are the odds why don't they with 2020 do the odds of him uh the guards falling asleep the camera's breaking right right when he's hanging himself i mean but then they just did a video where they sent it this is him in jail when he hung himself you go i thought they broke i didn't think the video when i was the last i saw it was just him walking through the prison there was none of him in the in the well i think i saw this is a story going on this week so a clip of a door of a jail they're like this is his whatever i think one possibility which sounds pretty far-fetched let's say that stuff is good for blackmail with some people.

7:15So in lieu of just telling everyone this guy did this, the people that have it now go to them and say, now we'll blackmail you. So we need you to do this or we're going to let it out.

7:26Dana Carvey:Who benefited from Jeffrey Epstein not being on the planet? I mean, this is like crime drama series we see all the time. And then here's the other part of it is that Pam beyond a press secretary as a mis-taping what is her last name bondi i think bondi yeah bondi yes um had come out a few weeks ago yeah pam bondi that we've got all the files we got this stuff we're going to be giving you a lot of information and then all of a sudden like that it was no hung himself we don't have any evidence of any sex trafficking there's no list we have There's nothing just goodbye. And even the first time they brought it up to Trump, he goes, why are we even talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

8:11Dana Carvey:Why would we talk about that? Why are we? It just makes you go, but yeah, but answer, we're being told at least as of this taping, don't ask any questions. Just shut up. Again, yeah. I mean, it's sort of, yes, it's an old story, but it's one that you, even Trump has to realize it's a curiosity factor for people. So you just want to put it out for good. What's the answer? And when that answer comes out, everyone kind of goes, I don't know if that's the answer. Well, do a show and tell press conference. Have all the stuff. Be humble about it. Have Pam go up there and go, okay, this is what we thought.

8:51Dana Carvey:This is the video of me saying I've got all this stuff. But then we checked it again and cross-checked it. This is exactly why the cameras didn't work. this is exactly why they didn't work while he was hanging himself you know because it's just make piques your interest and it's just good for uh for the public psyche to not feel like they're being lied to yeah by the way were you i mean this doesn't even seem fair but were you in were you in new york when he went when it went down with epstein were you near that jail cell why you think i did it well i just i wouldn't know how i'm not saying look i was there visiting someone that day in prison but i did nothing wrong right which i knew about you texted me i'm at the prison where definitely you know i do good things i go there and visit people and bring them lunch right and also you did a pithy kind of selfie where you took a sheet and wrapped up like this and went remember that a little video while you're in the prison what's that this is where i'm faking making Well, you had a sheet and you rolled it in a real tight thing and it had a noose and you went like, hey, you know, and I'm not making you culpable.

10:04Dana Carvey:I'm just saying there's stories that need to be explained. No, I'm just doing a funny selfie with that. And it's not - At the prison. Nothing to do with it. Now, two things do not, those don't add up. But we'll get into other stories now. But that was a story this week. And then there was a Diddy trial, which I don't think is over yet as of this press time. It's just he hasn't been sentenced, right? It seems like, yeah, they're going to let him out after he's sentenced. You know, the judge did express worry that he would revert back and go after some of the people. I'm worried. I'm worried. But basically, the sex trafficking or the racketeering.

10:44Dana Carvey:Like, so they're saying he didn't do it for the money. The two biggest things got dismissed. And then it was transporting prostitution. prostitution. And I know that could carry 10 years, but I don't know. But basically, basically he got off. Basically, I feel like he's in better place than he was. Like, he probably will get reduced sentence. Has he been in jail this whole time? Maybe they'll give him time. Yeah, he's been in there like nine months. Now, let me ask you a question. Is there a chance that he's headlining Vegas in six months or he's he's just back if he's out and they just say okay we're on probation uh I definitely think he's back in biz I think he has fans that will fully back him fully go see him I don't know if he's really even a singer or rapper I don't even know really what he no one really knows what he does exactly Robert Smigel did a cartoon on SNL And the entire notion of the cartoon, I might have mentioned this before, was what does P.

11:47Dana Carvey:Diddy do? I guess he's a producer, you know, of rap. Yeah, which means whatever. Yeah, yeah, producer. I like that. But anyway. He's sort of piggybacked on Biggie. I mean, I don't know anything. I can't talk. I don't know anything. Yeah. But, you know, as just an objective viewer or listener, I really know even less. All right, let's get into the hard news. This is very hard. I'll just say that one last p-ditty drop. It's unsavory. It's an unsavory story. Yeah, it's a little rough. Yeah. Okay. Now, you were asking me early what pigeons look like when they puff out their chest to impress females.

12:25And I finally found some video. Okay.

12:31That impresses girls.

12:33Dana Carvey:I don't want to fall in love. I just want to kick it. Stupid song. Song helps it. That's a pigeon. I've never seen pigeons do that to impress me. I've seen a lot of pigeons in the park in New York and whatever. I've never seen anything close to that. I mean, are they all married or why? No one's trying to impress another girl pigeon. Like, why are they? They're walking through it. Is there a chance that's AI? I don't. Well, there's a chance that everything is, yeah. Doesn't it make you kind of feel sorry when you watch these nature shows and the male component of a sea bug or whatever blows up into some freaky thing?

13:10Dana Carvey:or changes its feathers to dark purple or whatever. It's just sort of like these poor, horny freaks of nature. It's true. Blowing up and looking like alien, double, triple aliens. The birds are like, they puff their chest. They go, huh? Yeah. The female bird goes, I've seen this a million times. Or they go, yada, da, da, da, da. They're doing like little dances. Wouldn't a bird catch like, you know, 50 worms, put them in their mouth and spit them out like a machine gun? I can get. If they had a worm, Joey chestnut, and it said, how many worms can you eat? And the other birds would get it. That would be kind of interesting.

13:50Dana Carvey:What if a frog to impress another frog? Because we had a bullfrog up here in the middle of the night on the pond. But it seems like what if a frog in a bioevolutionary way to impress would jump up a thousand feet in the air and then kind of fly down? What do you think of that? Do you have a frog voice? She goes, oh my God, I was on my phone. Go ahead. He's like, I'm not doing that again. I just jumped 1 ,000 feet and then flew down. They make themselves kind of fat like that. I mean, the classic is the peacock. It's like, what's up? You have a peacock? That's pretty good. Not right. They kind of go.

14:35They put that shit out there. They're like, what's up?

14:37Dana Carvey:I think it was Johnny Carson was actually, he was golfing. He saw a peacock. And that's before NBC started. It was like 1952. It goes, I'm going to create a network and I'm going to have the NBC that be the peacock network. Someone had to say that. It might have been him. Someone had to do that. But it is kind of weird. And I do think even now, it's kind of unfortunate that NBC's live streaming is peacock. Because it ends with the word cock. It doesn't sound inviting. Peacock. It's right now streaming on Peacock. Don't you find it's not a great name? Yeah, because also, you know, it's a comedy word because, you know, the K sound people say is good in comedy.

15:19Like, I'm over here washing my peacock.

15:22Dana Carvey:Exactly. That's a dentist kind of thing. Okay, let's see what we have here in the peacock reverence territory. Spade made a million bucks, ran out and bought himself a peacock. And that's what I need more of in my life, okay? Swordfish with a little teriyaki sauce and a live peacock and some sort of corral on my ranch. Got a fucking peacock under glass. What was the question? I don't even know. Okay, we'll go to the next one. Next one. This is so interesting. Crowd is on the edge of their seat. Yes. The most dangerous person in tech is an e-liner. Altman? Oh, is that Sam Altman? Elon. It's 28-year-old.

16:12Oh, he built a training system for OpenAI. And Zuckerberg gave him$15 billion for it. Yeah. I mean, I think the only question people have is, is he right or left? Because if he gets to steer how people think, very powerful position.

16:30Dana Carvey:You're right. Is it just science or it can be used for good or evil? We've seen it in science fiction films, and now we're kind of living it. The idea that a 28-year-old gets handed$15 billion to make AI that'll take us over. $15 billion? That's 18 zeros, babe. Back to Dennis. $15 billion for about six days of work. Okay. That's a toddling character there. He's not going to have to be a chest thumper with the ladies, all right? You know how many peacocks you could get? Okay, he said all he did was hire sweatshop workers to procure data sets on the internet. I don't know if that's all he did. I mean.

17:11He said that about himself?

17:13Dana Carvey:No, this is a comment on the side. Oh, people who kind of know. Comments are always funny. Because although, oh, he's brilliant, but he lacks wisdom. Heavy comment. Heavy. Well, again, if you want to be in the room with, it's Zuckerberg hired him or who paid him? Yeah, Zuckerberg bought it. so the guy we got a guy he's really good he's 15 billion all right okay i got i got a guy a guy who's really really good as well he'll do it for 10 billion i got three guys they'll do it for 2 billion each so how do they arrive at 15 billion did you tell me you couldn't for 14 billion supplant him he's that valuable no it's not just the guy he's bringing his shit with him oh his whole giant how about he goes no i still own it but i'll come up with new shit for you they're like no no we want this thing oh he owns it okay yeah he owns it's like everything i just said trademark or he owns the guts of it so i guess listen i remember when they bought the first time i was hearing billion people are too young everything was millions government we gave 10 million to this place we gave 100 million which was like the highest when it hit billion I think during the last four or five years, it turns into a billion.

18:27Then I heard 20 billion. Then we're getting 100 billion. I'm like, you can't compute these numbers at all. It's just nothing. It's so high. It's unbelievable. So everyone overpays. Instagram, I think they bought it for a billion. And I thought, that's insane for this stupid shit. And then it's obviously worth a lot. And then Snapchat, I think the guy wouldn't take two or three billion from Google. And I was like, dude, is anyone going to get mad that you took three billion, you got ripped off? Let's say it goes to a hundred billion. You still have three billion. You're not going through it all.

19:04I mean, goddamn, get the stress off, sell it.

19:07Dana Carvey:It's a heartbreaking thing when startups get lucky and they have this, they don't make much money, but they're valued so much higher and someone wants to buy them. and it's if it works out when you say no but if you were if it doesn't work out you're like how in the fire did i say take your three billion right take your fucking three billion and shove it up your ass yeah it's like teams that overpay for a player and they bomb and they have like a nine-year deal with them they're like oh my god oh i love the nba what's his stats he gets six points a game, two rebounds, and one steal. What's his yearly income?

19:46Dana Carvey:$71 million. I want the talent to get paid. I want the talent to get paid. Your boy Kevin Love gave me a shout out yesterday. Really? Do you know who that is? Of course. Great, great forward who famously came out about just mental health issues, kind of helped a lot of people in the league. He just got traded, I guess, yesterday where's he going to a different team to a different team all right all right well you know miami heather look it up kevin love heather just shrugs her shoulders i go no look it up she goes i don't fucking know i go i know but heather can look things up i mean she can look it up and she's gonna say i think it's a miami heat going to somewhere utah jazz acquire kevin love and Kylie Anderson in three-term team training.

20:36Utah Jazz took him. So I don't think he was expecting it because he posted a Joder clip saying what's it like to get traded. And it was Kid Rock going, nobody wants you here. You crying, boy? Nobody wants you here at all. Get out of here. Hilarious.

20:55Dana Carvey:Trading's heartbreaking. I mean, there was just recently a seven-team deal where I'll take this, you take this guy, then you take this guy. the warriors were in it houston and he'll go over here yeah seven teams so complicated i know i can't keep track of it i don't understand all their deals like you know free agent restricted free i don't really understand how it all works do i care sort of not enough to look into it it's fun for you you're more into b-ball that you go they should get this guy if they lose this guy with this guy's kid you know they finally make money and then they get too expensive for someone yeah it's it's a real it's a guts move to turn down things and how you navigate your career you ideally want to get a few money initially and then you can take more chances with that you know i mean there were there are players in any professional sports who just just saved every penny when they were playing um dana wants fs money fuck spade let's take all his money dana's got lots of money i'm not no one's worried about dana okay let me just make this comment okay that's not true but there if you are someone who's living in a nice small house really humble have a humble car whatever and you have enough money coming in where you do what you want to do when you want to do it.

22:22Dana Carvey:If you want to work full time or you don't want, you are by lifestyle. Lifestyle is a millionaire lifestyle when you don't have to think about money. And a lot of that's just the expense. Yeah. I like to give wisdom. What was the question? It was, was Jeffrey Epstein, did he hang himself? No, That was so 11 minutes ago Puffy's hosting this week I'm really enjoying the podcast I thought the 11 minutes on the peacock Was a really seminal moment I thought Epstein into peacock was brilliant We have Puffy He's also the musical guest That will mean he's fully back I'm P. Diddy I ain't going anywhere anywhere.

23:12I'm back in the city. I got

23:15Dana Carvey:the baby oil. I know how to toil. I one time worked the soil. Everybody find some oil. I BF'd olive oil. While Papa was watching. My name's not guilty. I know people think I'm filthy, but I want to tell you the whole story iffy. I pass a water bippy. god damn i know i ran out of steam we've this is our third podcast today and yours yeah uh okay we'll go next story we really are racking them up rack them i love this podcast so far okay this might be real right now these are a lot of girls have podcasts a lot of women and a lot of them i'm figuring out mostly only fans girls it seems like if you see it's something like this it might be a fake podcast because no one actually looks at the real ones they it's a good way to get clips on you really just film clips you know what i'm saying suit on a couch so if she's talking to the girl but there's no real podcast but it looks like one they're just doing clips anyway oh i see just clips as if you're just basically they're filming clips there's no real see it they're there how much did you pay in taxes this year i didn't pay taxes i've never paid taxes in my life you never paid taxes no okay well so i haven't either i don't I really don't know even what taxes means.

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24:38Me either. And I just like have money in. This is kind of where I'm at. I really don't know. What do you even do? How do you file from them? Like, how do you pay? You need an extension. Is there like taxes.com? Did she say extension? That's smart. That's one. I don't know. And it's different for every state. Like, why do some states have to pay more taxes than other states? I don't understand. That's true. That's why. We're women. Okay. Yeah. I'm a woman. That's fine. Someone explain. Okay, a deep conversation. I do think there's, I think maybe in that world, a lot either forget or aren't advised to pay taxes.

25:20These people you hear making so much money in that OnlyFans world. I don't know. I mean, if you don't, you're going to get a rude awakening. Maybe. I don't want to pay taxes anymore. Wesley Snipes, right?

25:32Dana Carvey:I mean, they gave him bad advice and he went to prison. Right. That's what's supposed to happen. I think what's happening more is no one wants to pay taxes because when you realize they're missing$20 billion in California, you go, why? Is that my money I'm paying? And then it goes away and you go, sorry, we lost$20 billion, but we need more. So we're going to up the tax. I'm like, I don't want to pay anymore. How about just figure out a new way? Because just keep telling us to give you money that you lose. You lose it? Why is there not online a very clear, easy third grader could do it of listing of where California, let's just say California tax dollars.

26:16Dana Carvey:Specifically, where is it going to this education system, to this charity? And follow it. Make sure someone's using it for the right, not just kicking it to their cousins and uncles and are just, I don't know. It's so fucking complicated. I know. And even if you talk to tax experts, you can say to them, I don't know, is that a write-off? And they go, I don't know. Nobody really knows. It could be. Maybe we'll write off part of it. I think the frustrating thing for me is if I don't pay tax or something, they're on my ass within days. Like you didn't pay, you didn't pay exactly perfectly. You owe more.

26:53You're fined. You're late. But when they take your money and they blow it down the fucking shitter, they just shrug their shoulders and go, yeah, I don't know. Give us more. And you better do it fast. I'm like, get fucked. It's getting annoying, dude. It's getting bad. Give me one non bumpy street that doesn't rip up my oil pan. I'll be all right. my neck and my oil. That's all I'm looking for.

27:17Dana Carvey:Yeah. Let's, let's have some, let's have some pre-burns. Let's have some fire. Let's have some fire management. Let's, let's have, let's have our gas prices where people, poor people can afford it. Um, you know, let's, uh, let, let's have really, I know these are your hot takes and let's have really safe neighborhoods. Let's have just all over the state. Let's put some people in jail again. If you, if, if you're a criminal and do something wrong, maybe there's a punishment. I mean, don't make it... Well, that's going too far. You're telling... That is going too far. I swear it's a new world where, you know, the criminal's the victim.

27:52That's just a tough new world I'm not quite wrapping my head around yet.

27:58Dana Carvey:It's hard for me to comprehend it, but you know what? I think in California, a lot of people, once it's up in your face, then they're sort of like, you know, what, what, what, what? But, you know, this we should not make it the new normal when you're in a safe neighborhood and you feel safe at night. It shouldn't be like, well, this actually feels good. You know, you shouldn't have to be like, I know someone who was out in a town sort of outside in the valley toward toward Palm Springs. And then at six o 'clock, they're at this party and they said, you guys got to get out of here. They go, why?

28:35Dana Carvey:Well, the gangs will start to filter. You've got it's six o 'clock. You've got to drive out of here now. You don't wait. I'm at a store right where I go to the bottom of the street, walk out front, some dude's chewing on a fucking extension cord. He's got a blackjack in his hand. One of my Gleko. No, it's just nerve-wracking. There's a lot of nerve-wracking stuff anywhere. I mean, there's almost no neighborhoods where you go, this is totally fine. I'm at a 76er down in Hollywood. I'm trying to get some petrol, okay? First of all, it's$19 a gallon. And all of a sudden I see Skippy, the homeless guy.

29:11Dana Carvey:He's got his pants around his ankle, his unit in his hand. He's chugging a half pint of whiskey and goes, have you got a dollar? Okay. And that was the best part of the day down there. All right. I remember the one time when a guy came out of CVS, he goes, David Spade. I go, hey, man. He goes, David Spade. He followed me for three blocks. And he goes, give me some money. And it turns into like a casual robbery because I go, all right. And I go, there's 10 bucks. He goes, I know you got more than that. I was like, and then he goes, I opened my wallet and he goes, give me that hundred. And I go, well, a hundred feels like a little, and he just goes, pluck.

29:46And I go, all right, can I leave the crime now? Am I dismissed?

29:51Dana Carvey:Then he says, that's a pretty watch. You give him a watch. Yeah, give me that watch. Yeah. Then give me that jacket. Where does this end? And he goes, you always wear blue on that podcast. And I go, oh, you have a laptop? oh, he's like, you and Dana kind of complain about the stuff maybe too much. I go, all right, well, that's not what we're here to talk about. I just really don't know why Tom Segura would hassle you like that. He could be a perfect homeless guy. I'm just shocked that Tom would do that. Kreischer, too. Yeah, Kreischer. Okay, let's go to the next. What's this? Oh, this is funny.

30:34Models doing dumb things just never gets old to me Okay The new, you know, they always do a modeling thing And they don't know where to put it This one there Oh, I don't know if you can see it They're in water

30:46Dana Carvey:Okay, models in water

30:51Models looking stupid in water Dirt Okay, we can drop the opera That guy's hair looks like shit Look at that, Marilyn Manson

31:03Dana Carvey:You know It looks ridiculous But we're looking at it That's all I need to say A little Night of the Living Dead for me Look at this outfit right here High collar That guy's got some quads Leather, you're not supposed to get it wet, I heard This is the episode of Dennis Christ's sake That's what I need when I'm looking for a Vente jacket Is some kind of zombie water motif Coming at me, alright I don't want to buy a Versace jacket for 22 grand. I find a large mouth lunker bass in the pocket. That was a good one. Yeah. What's next? They get sucked down the drain and you do a raffle to see which one's still alive.

31:48I mean, I got a goldfish in my chonies. All right. That's funny enough.

31:54Dana Carvey:We got to do something where we're just sitting in ice baths or something during the podcast. That's kind of what we are. These are big prom entrances. I got to have to ask Harper about this one. Is this a good one, Heather? What do you think? Queen song. Outhouse. Great Queen song, by the way. Look at what the heck did I just watch? A lot of hits. I don't like this long wind up to what we all know is about to happen. I don't know what's going to happen. Oh. Okay. Here's my little princess. So she sat in there for like 40 minutes. Yeah, she took a dump. Okay. Yeah. Oh, this isn't even Queen. Wexplot.

32:42Who is it? No one's impressed. It says no one's impressed. Oh, yeah. Everyone just staring off like this going, she's like, sorry, it was Taco Tuesday. Is that the dad's idea you think? It's not a great idea.

32:58Dana Carvey:Daddy, I just want my prom because I get so nervous. Could you have an outhouse? And I would make my - Nearby. Nearby, so I could go in it and then come out and bridge it. And Susie could take pictures of me coming out of the outhouse. Daddy? Daddy? You ready in there? Yep.

33:23Sometimes you see people, they put a little English on it. At the end, they go, put a little English on it.

33:34Dana Carvey:Has it come to this? It has. It has come to this. We're not out of material. This is quality. I'm not saying this is the bottom. This is good. I'm not apologizing. I don't apologize. Not for this. Not for this. No, we don't go scatter all the people very much. So funny. Okay, next one. And what people like, don't be political and don't be dirty and don't be scatological. I'm like, what else? That's you farting and changing ears. I was trying to top yours. Here is race car farting.

34:19Let me see what this is. Oh, this guy. There's a man in New York. This is the New York TikTok or something. Man in New York known as the human carpet. He wants girls to walk, step on him. Okay. Is he an artist? I don't know.

34:33Dana Carvey:Oh, I see. Performance art. Look at that. He's rolled up in a carpet on the sidewalk. I would do this for fun, but I don't like it. So I'm glad I captured that for everyone. Here comes some more. Let's get a few more folks walking on. Should we walk on his wiener? and then i'm gonna go for you all so you could see i would get the boxer butter bean look him up i'd get butter bean oh she went for it yeah okay kind of reflecting on what i just did it seems like i might have indirectly pleasured someone from my walking it sounds like i'm doing god's work but that was also a huge hazard and borderline illegal sorry do not get rid of them uh that was a little off-putting it was wrapping a guy wrapping his other guy at the end i think i gave pleasure to a guy we don't need him we need the other part the guy wrapped in the carpet wanting to get stepped on i say good for him man it's kind of funny that if that's your thing he sort of goes i'm just not going to be ashamed do you want to hear a real story yeah sure and i don't know if i told you this one but it'll seem too fantastical it relates to this on some level.

35:45I hope it's you wrapped in carpet. My brother, Mark Carvey,

35:49Dana Carvey:was living in New York in the 70s. He was an artist and a painter. He's still around, but he had a career and whatever. So he's in New York and he's going to an exhibit. And, you know, art got a little funny in the 70s. It's still very exotic. So he goes in and they tell him that the artist has built a false floor under the floor. So when you go in to look at the artist's paintings, he wants you to know that he will be under the floor that he's built and he will be masturbating. Now, this is directly God's honest truth. So there's no joke. It's not Picasso, I'm guessing. Okay, going for the old false floor jack off thing under the Van Gogh.

36:37Dana Carvey:Okay, so that's, you know, that's like performance art. The guy in the carpet You know probably They film it And they put it in a museum And then it's probably clear So you can You go hey Is that Van Blow down there? I know Yeah Let's see Is that Leonardo DiJakoff? Okay Is that Peter Beard Jerkin the Gherkin? Another Edward Hop around down there On your Johnson Okay This is Jackson Pollock Wrestling the bald-headed champ Jackson Peacock down there Oh yeah, peacocks are back. Also would. But anyway, art got funny. No rules in art. I will give you that. No. My brother Andy's into art. He's got all these cool things, but it always makes me laugh.

37:24He's got very interesting things. But it's good because you can really think out of the box.

37:30Dana Carvey:If you like it, you like it. But sometimes I will go in, and I love going to art museums, love art. but I saw one once and it was 40 feet wide and 20 feet high. It was all white, covered the whole wall, and it just had one red dot in the middle of the painting. And I'm like - Heavy, man, heavy. It's kind of like if you think you could do it, then you lose respect, you know? Yeah. And if you see a Van Gogh, by the way, you go, holy shit. Yeah, the good ones are good. I don't agree with all of them. I told you this. It's wrinkles. Let's see one more and then we'll get out of here. We really spoiled everyone.

38:12Oh, no, this is funny. I had a deadbeat dad growing up. These people hire this guy. Okay.

38:27Bomb.

38:28Dana Carvey:Here we go. Deadbeat dad gets tackled.

38:35Oh! These moms tell this guy and they email him and he just...

38:45Dana Carvey:Who's taking the video? Because he's committing a crime. Put that guy in the garbage. Uh-oh, this guy's gonna fall hard. Is that Norbit? Whoa, that is a big guy getting a big guy. And this guy's like, later. whoa i don't promote violence but you know so they're dead are not only absentee whoa they're on the funnions aisle all right that's good don't do in front of the kid though they don't dead be dead the qualification is you you're absentee and you don't send money that's completely okay yeah so the moms get frustrated there's no money they see them clicking their heels they have no repercussion they have no recourse they hire this guy just just be kind of harm them though i mean just go tackle them and say pretty tough tackle go take uh go uh get back on your responsibilities kind of well i knew a mom finally i missed that i didn't know where to use it i've been sitting here with my hand on the trigger um i know a mom that's so happy about her husband that she hires beautiful models to go find their husband and just make out with him so that's the flip side of what we just oh to get oh to give him a reward oh i thought it was to catch him cheating no no some girls will send in a decoy to say see if my husband will cheat try to dm him you know that kind of thing um yeah well deadbeat dads it's a good it's a good phrase do they have a dad for a phrase for a non deadbeat dad just dad just just divorce dad now my dad didn't pay the whole run since i was four so we were four six and eight not a penny not an alimony not child support and he lived about a mile away and he'd be clicking his heels.

40:54So I see the frustration.

40:57Dana Carvey:Yeah, it's just, you know, and then the son, you, becomes very successful, has a couple shekels in his pocket, and then suddenly daddy's around. Yeah, 100%. Okay, we'll land on that. Oh, anyway, so my dad never paid.

41:24Dana Carvey:but then I got on time.

41:28Dana Carvey:Why do I keep forgetting to buy some of those? You got to buy something stupid. I have to do them as soon as we end this podcast or else I'll forget. And I want to shock you because maybe I'll buy one for you and we'll send it to you and you just open it and start. I'll open it on camera and then I'll be delighted. All right. We got two written question guys. But you can do audio questions too. you can send it to fly on the wall at odyssey.com and you also can do it in audio you can do it with a little video or you can write the question so we got a couple right now yeah okay let's say we're gonna try already here we go is it written i think it's written this is the first one from molly this is molly from cincinnati quick story i watched david's most recent netflix special on a flight to texas i was giggling the whole time at the end of the flight my seatmate on the plane said i have to ask what were you watching that was so funny question what goes into each of your hair routines they look highly stylized and elaborate that's the question from the special the special was good yeah i had a good little lumberjack shirt on um i switch it to my shirt no the hair is saying uh it's really my hair story let's see is that you call your routine no we call it something else when I get up and do my hair the first three and a half hours of my day it's going like this hey so what it is is they blow dry it straight because my hair gets very wavy that's really the part I hate so and I hate getting it worked on or touched so I keep it for a couple days but they did it that night in the special because you have to and then I didn't know what I was going to wear I had a coat or a shirt and five minutes before they go you got to pick one and I said I'll put the coto over the shirt I changed it and the rest is history but I appreciate people watching why does that happen to us why do we wait to what we're gonna wear in a special it's crazy because it's because you don't want to think you want to look sort of different like Lauren you say let them know you're a star that's what he'd always tell me dress like a star and separate yourself people but when you do a show Eddie Murphy in the red leather was like oh this is what you do really dress up but i kind of am not like that it's not my vibe so i want to wear something a little more normal didn't want to go total t-shirt yeah i think it's a new new thing of authenticity i think shane gillis come out in a t-shirt or like uh people coming on like they're just just something they just picked up off the floor you know and that's kind of cool too.

44:10Dana Carvey:You were just sort of casual. It looked like something you would wear. A flannel shirt, a coat. I liked it. It was fine, but I appreciate them watching and I'm glad they giggled. Yeah. Okay, thanks. One more question until next time. This is from Hayden. I'm an actress a year and a half out of college looking for theater work. I've been turned down at every audition I've gone to so far. Can you give me any audition advice for someone just starting out in the industry? I wonder if she got turned down or she didn't. get a call back or something she never even auditioned what does that sound like dana well it sounds like she auditioned and got turned down oh i see i mean um without seeing it um i mean it's the easiest business to get discouraged in so she's not crazy uh it does take a while to get things going and know it well there's a book called audition that might help they gave me that when i was it's really it's almost a different muscle auditioning than being in something um so you have to sort of study that and they can tell if you're new the way you hold your papers the way you walk in when you start talking some people come in this go we going let's go and you go oh they've done this before but you know dame me and you go and we go hello my baby we try to bullshit around well it's like trying it's try not to try You know, first of all, okay, three things.

45:38Dana Carvey:It's an emotionally violent career. So get used to losing and embrace it. Like I probably went 0 for 100 for auditions in the 80s before SNL, maybe even more. And so you just collect them. First of all, it's never personal. It's usually a little bit of luck. The things that I got, I got right away because they just thought I was the right type. So never take it personal. I used to think that Marlon Brando had just read before me. I was so intimidated, you know, don't take it too seriously, collect defeats. And the only thing you control in your entire career is just try to get better, whether it's an acting workshop or whatever.

46:17Dana Carvey:The rest is just, there's a lot of timing and luck to it. And that's just the way it is. I'm saying boat. I missed, I got a commercial agent. You're perfect for commercials. Quote, two solid years, at least two a week, one in the Valley in a suit, one down Manhattan beach an hour away with shorts. and never got one. Two straight years. So it's almost impossible with those odds, but I didn't get anything. And then for Police Academy, someone saw you doing stand-up. You look like the character they needed. And I looked, I could play under 18 or whatever, under 18, and I could skateboard. Skateboard.

46:51Dana Carvey:So I got, you know, I had a small deal at NBC and the head of the network, they were doing the Mickey Rooney show and they needed someone to be his grandson. And I looked kind of like him, but I was 40 years younger. and the head of the network, Fred Silverman, goes, that's Mickey Rooney's grandson. He saw two seconds of a video of me. Right. I didn't even audition. And then other times I auditioned and I didn't get it. So it's very normal. Just know that it, just try to work on getting better and your time will come. And hang in there. If you really like it, you're going to do it forever. So just hang in there.

47:23Dana Carvey:You'll get work if you stick to it. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Thanks for the questions. Any final words for everybody? The only thing is On next Superfly I want you to guess This big mystery, okay What's in there, it's gonna be something sort of positive The last time it was a Rovostatin pill That wasn't exciting It could be A rotting tooth It could be anything, we don't know Yeah, that's the thing, it's the mystery Big Everyone's freaking out okay we'll see in the comments on youtube see if people got this far so i can't wait to read comments cannot fucking work i'm gonna sit down for a big evening of comments yeah i get a cigar and some dinty more beef stew dinty more that was a good pull right there got it my doomsday shelter jesus um all right we did dennis miller we did this is kind of a an homage to our friend Dennis Miller today.

48:26Dana Carvey:For some reason, the comedy all improvised, no script. I know it seems amazing. Dennis was a very expressive vessel for what we're doing today. Alright, thanks for coming on my show, and I appreciate it. Thank you for having me, baby.

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49:11Dana Carvey:Our senior producer is Greg Holtzman, and the show is produced and edited by Phil Sweet-Tech. Booking by Cultivated Entertainment. Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura Curran, Melissa Wester, Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kirk Courtney, and Lauren Vieira. Reach out with us. Any questions to be asked and answered on the show, you can email us at flyonthewallatodyssey.com. That's A-U-D-A-C-Y dot com.

49:49Thank you.

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