From Busboys & Dishwashers to SNL + Let's End White People?

12 Jan 2026 · 58 min · 29 chapters

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In short

This episode is a mix of comedy talk, entertainment reviews, and political/news commentary, plus long ad reads. The hosts discuss: (1) a Paul Feig-directed thriller/comedy they saw, Housemates, focusing on its humor, gore level, and a long third act with twists; they praise Sydney Sweeney’s grounded performance and Amanda Seyfried, and mention the male lead as “Brandon Sklenor” (name debated). (2) California wildfire relief frustration: a large benefit raised money, but they claim it hasn’t reached victims quickly, with rebuilding slowed by permits, utilities, debris removal, and bureaucracy; they also criticize lack of audits and spending transparency. (3) A Rutgers/NYC housing-related claim that “whiteness” will end and that property should shift from individual ownership to shared equity, with “white families” needing a different relationship to property. (4) A teen charged for putting googly eyes on an $88,000 public sculpture, arguing about art value and vandalism.

Guests

No clear named guests in the transcript; it’s primarily the hosts (David Spade and Dana Carvey) plus occasional references to friends/industry contacts.

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Chapters

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David's Hilarious Experiences

2:25 to 4:23

David shares a funny personal story involving a roof and a $20 bet.

“I don't think even Daniel Day-Lewis could score this.”

Discussion on Fashion and Hats

4:23 to 6:03

A humorous discussion about trucker hats and their styling.

“Sometimes that's on purpose with people.”

The Jiffy Pop Debate

6:03 to 8:02

Dana and David discuss the nostalgia of Jiffy Pop and its impact.

Anniversary Reflections

8:02 to 11:00

David shares insights about his anniversary and relationship dynamics.

“Heather confidently says it possibly wrong.”

Movie Review of 'Housemates'

11:00 to 12:28

The guys discuss their thoughts on the movie 'Housemates' and its themes.

“I know people say, hey, that podcast is great if you're a fucking woodpecker.”

Acting and Performances in Film

12:28 to 14:00

A discussion on the performances of actors in the film and their impact.

“Yeah, they're cushioned right where you need it most.”

Reflections on California Fires

15:43 to 19:30

Discuss the aftermath of the LA forest fires and community frustrations.

“And I don't even know what NGOs do, but it went into little funds where they decided what to do with it.”

Critique of Government Spending

19:30 to 28:07

Examine California's budget issues and the challenges with funds.

“The homeless, they lose 20 billion, but they want more money for it.”

The Evolution of TV and Audiences

28:07 to 28:35

Discusses how television has evolved to keep pace with viewer demands for faster content.

Behind the Scenes of a Pilot

28:36 to 29:49

Dana shares his experience working on a pilot for a spin-off of 'Facts of Life'.

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Auditioning Challenges

29:50 to 31:28

David and Dana talk about the struggles and strategies of auditioning in Hollywood.

“And then I lost the patient and then I kind of lost the show for it.”

Memorable Roles and Mistakes

31:29 to 33:07

Dana recounts his experiences auditioning and some of the mistakes he made along the way.

“You wanted to play Charlie Chaplin's friend.”

The Day I Got Fired

33:08 to 34:28

Dana shares a humorous story about getting fired on set in front of the crew.

Rethinking Property Relationships

34:29 to 37:50

Discussion on how societal views on property ownership are evolving.

“When I was a little baby, he played, I think, a blind detective.”

The Changing Face of Wealth

37:51 to 39:45

Explores perceptions of wealth and how it has changed over generations.

“and my wife and I kind of went, yeah, so we're starting to foster a different relationship with our property.”

Work Experiences and Humble Beginnings

39:46 to 42:00

Dana and David reminisce about their early jobs as dishwashers and busboys.

From Dishwashing to SNL

42:00 to 42:20

Dana and David share their experiences working as dishwashers and busboys before their SNL fame.

Diddy and Current Events

43:24 to 44:26

The hosts discuss a humorous situation involving Diddy and current events.

“Last week, I was observing that that Trump, you know, he was criticizing George Clooney in a kind of a Trump way, like he's never really been in a movie.”

Trump's Critique of Clooney

44:26 to 45:49

The guys analyze Trump’s opinions about Clooney and related humorous observations.

“It's like if Hussein Bolt attacked Trump, Trump would be like, he never ran very fast.”

Greenland and Geopolitics

45:49 to 48:01

A comedic take on Trump's interests in Greenland and past geopolitical antics.

“So, because my mind, it's a hard time wrapping around this.”

The Moon Landing Conundrum

48:01 to 48:56

The hosts humorously discuss the challenges of modern space exploration compared to the Apollo missions.

“Greenland, and he goes, he's like Michael Jackson when he used to walk around those places like Maxfields.”

Art, Modernism, and Value

48:56 to 50:30

Dana and David debate the concept of modern art and its perceived value.

“I'm like, we did not pay for that, I hope.”

The Future of AI in Creativity

50:30 to 53:14

A discussion on AI's role in creativity and its implications for content creation.

“I didn't even know they were googly eyes, man.”

Ringo Starr Meets a TikToker

53:14 to 55:01

An amusing encounter between Ringo Starr and a TikToker in an airport is discussed.

“I have chat THC and I ask it to do stuff and it goes, oh my God, I just woke up.”

The Longevity of The Beatles

55:01 to 56:00

The potential longevity and cultural impact of The Beatles are pondered.

Ringo and the Beatles: A Comedic Reflection

56:00 to 56:45

Dana and David humorously discuss a chance encounter with Ringo Starr and reflect on the legacy of The Beatles.

Influence of Classical Composers

56:45 to 58:01

They explore the lasting impact of classical composers like Beethoven and Mozart on music and culture.

A Tribute to Tootsie

58:01 to 58:48

A lighthearted discussion about the film 'Tootsie' and its cultural significance from their perspectives.

“She told Dustin Hoffman, you were in Tootsie, which is my third favorite movie or something.”

Vegas Shows and Personal Updates

58:48 to 59:54

David shares details about his upcoming shows in Vegas and reflects on the venue's unique atmosphere.

“But I think I, I went to see someone there and I was like, this place is going off.”
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2:48Me, you, and her.

2:49Dana Carvey:I mean, I'm not literally, you know, when you think about it, like, this is white. Am I white? No. I'm splotchy. No, they don't mean us. Do you have a problem with my hat? No, I like it. Well, what I found out was it's Reebok. Thank you. Thank you for your sponsor. but it's embedded. That's Reebok? Yeah, but you can't really see it. There you go. Oh, I kind of like that it's just black. It's like when Rob Lowe wore that one to the Super Bowl and said, it just said NFL on it. It just said like, he didn't want to pull for one side or the other and lose fans. Well, it's the thing I was doing before and this is really important for people um like your trucker hats like they'll sit tall on your head which is the way you want you don't want them like coming down you know and like this one i'm not going to wear working out so it gets all sweaty and mouth warm so it's kind of sitting more like a trucker hat anyway that's all i got on the hat that's a great way to start a great start we've we've gained millions of followers off that yes grab them at the top at least at least at least a hundred thousand well Well, my trucker hats, I want people to know that I know they mostly look stupid.

4:14Some look cool, but most of them look stupid. But I still want to wear them.

4:18Dana Carvey:I don't think they look stupid. Some are too high up and too jiffy pop, and I don't like that. Sometimes that's on purpose with people. I don't like it. Well, it is a look, right? You're not the only one, but you kind of are a little bit famous for wearing them. Well, sometimes my hair looks so bad, I'd rather just look dumber in a hat. It's a tough decision, but I do that. Oh, yeah. I mean, our, us as super - Jiffy Pop? Does he know? Does Greg know what Jiffy Pop means? What do you think? What do you know? Hmm. I'm going to say no. Oh, do people not know that because we're so old? Greg, do you know what Jiffy Pop is?

4:58Heather, you know what it is.

4:59Dana Carvey:Heather, do you know? She knows. Yeah, he does too. Oh, Greg says, of course. Okay, good. Okay, good. So, can I just ask a question? it's still in stores you can get it right it's still in stores i think it's so it's a flat aluminum pan and you go yeah and then it grows it's like a little made and sold today what is it made out of the well it's aluminum tin foil and the the popcorn is in there unpopped and you go like that and then it the funny part of the as a kid it would just grow grow grow grow and then popping on the inside yeah so the what i do now is i'll do spinach reverse jiffy pop so i put it in and it's gigantic and then the more i stir it with the olive oil and all the stuff i do it goes down into almost nothing we just got bigger on screen i just saw myself up close and it's a fucking rough ride so your anniversary is this week yes my anniversary yeah is this week yeah yeah what about it what do you got a point of view borderline personal yeah well you know 43 is not that exciting you know what do you do at 43 and what's up you know 43 is uh is that uh sandpaper what's what are you supposed to give someone at 43.

6:36Dana Carvey:I don't know she gave me a hug and said you're you're my favorite husband I go there's been others it's nice when you're at ease and it's not like I gotta go out and get this crazy presence all the time we just have you guys are both very cool people so it's a chill vibe yeah we might go see housemates because she hasn't seen it i'm not saying it's the greatest i'm just saying it's entertaining i will say i yeah go ahead i want to i i want to ask you a question in terms of the gore factor when they're doing stuff do you think it's still kind of not horror show it's still slightly funny even though there's some stuff that's like that you know yes i went saw it since our last podcast and paul feig yeah our buddy was on the show yeah and he was here to talk about housemates so i felt like as my duty not to say before we interview him like a normal joining the marines okay go ahead as my duty yeah civic duty um to see sydney sweeney late naked i said i should go see paul's movie and like amanda siegfried which yeah i stay wrong great and and there's a guy that's the lead in who i don't know but very good looking anyway we should we should get his name heather greg could you look up the name of the male lead because he's he's awfully good and he's been around in a lot of stuff but let's make him a household name with the numbers we're getting we'll make them a household yeah overnight uh so i saw it and i thought it was it had some humor and i don't think it's really a gory horror film those moments but i didn't really think that i just thought it was one of those i mean it's paul feek who's done so many he's a comic and he's in so many comedies that aside from even bridesmaids uh that he was How do you say his name?

8:31Dana Carvey:Brandon Sklenor? Why did we even try? I don't know. We fucking ruined it. It just popped up and went away. Sklenor. It's S-K-E-L. Sklenor. Sklenor. Oh, like Sklenor. Heather confidently says it possibly wrong. Sklenor. Brandon Sklenor. All the acting is great. It's just one of those fun movies of someone going into a house that's dysfunctional and sort of a thriller, like what's going to happen. There's violence a little, but it doesn't lean on it. There's sexual themes. There's sexual themes, yeah. It's Sydney Sweeney. It's in her contract. And she's really good too. What's interesting about her as a casual fan, she can really mouse herself down.

9:22Dana Carvey:She can be sort of the girl next door kind of playing. Or she could go full bling and do the other thing. So she's got a wide, you know, I thought she the only surprising thing to me, she's obviously very cute. She played it very under the whole thing. She wasn't like over the top or anything like that. She was very, which I liked. And Amanda and obviously and she's great actress. Yeah. And the guy who is kind of the Brandon, you agents say to change your name just to make it easier like brandon boxcar would have been better i'd remember it boom got it brandon brandon rackham brandon rackham ricky rackham yeah ricky rackham but uh it you don't know if something's silent with it s-k-l-e-n-a-r because if if it's it's slender but you got the k in there so anyway he's awfully good so you know it's paul feig our buddy are you know a really good friend he's a director uh he's the director of the film and it does start and it starts and ends with him i mean he is directing it and they he got great performances and it's it's just a fun movie i don't want to say it's like gone with the wind or apocalypse now but it's awfully entertaining if i have to say one criticism am i allowed yes a hair lengthy but that's my overall problem with a lot i would say without giving it away is that you're right so its third act was kind of elongated because it does have some things you don't see coming and so when you a normal thriller movie like that would end at point whatever this one does extend but when it's extending it's full of twists and turns you don't see coming or is there doing a sequel also are you starting to get it i'm starting to get it and the more you break it down the more i sort of understand that's something i've said to john lovitz i know i've already said that starting to get it i like we put that one down a squinch we run a multi-million dollar operation over here dana this we put millions into this what do you There you go.

11:43Thank you.

11:45Dana Carvey:We should call this podcast Brown Door. The Brown Door Diaries. The Brown Door Diaries. I know people say, hey, that podcast is great if you're a fucking woodpecker. Well, that's why I'm going full woodsy and I'm going black, red, black. You're Woodsy Owl. Remember Woodsy Owl? You know what he did? You know what his phrase was? No. who give a hoot don't pollute oh to give a hoot don't pollute okay what did uh smoky the bear say there's more to woodsy owl he had a song oh okay woodsy spread the word never be a dirty bird in the city or in the land on the land help keep america looking grand fuck yeah what he was a bit of a star in the day that was cool smoky the bear scared the shit out of me because i'm like four years old i'm watching tv by myself suddenly this cartoon bear points at me and says only you can prevent forest fires i go dana only me i weigh 30 pounds how am i gonna smother it out you know only you dana why are you still sitting there only you and david spade and that was weird i think that he mentioned your name even before i met you know david people keep asking about my 2026 resolutions yes they do i've been one of them you i know what you're trying to say the people keep asking about your 2026 resolutions and i've got the usual ones uh read more or read it all hit the gym hit the gym learn how to crochet get the knitting needles out of the closet yeah but this year the goal at the very top of my list is simple get comfy i've learned that from abby yeah and that's exactly where bombas comes in they're bringing next level comfort to uh my everyday essentials take the new bombas sports socks they're designed with sport specific comfort for everything from running hiking golf that's what i do skiing and i know you want to get back into running they got some i would really want to get back into running honestly for sure I do a lot of hiking.

13:57Yeah, they're cushioned right where you need it most. Sweat wicking? That's good. Is that good?

14:04Dana Carvey:Yeah, it keeps the sweat away. Packs with tech that keeps you comfortable and locked in. So comfy socks. It's a great idea. So for everyday around the house resolutions, Bombas has the comfiest footwear imaginable. I've been living in their Sherpa Sunday slippers. for things like weekend resets when i'm spring cleaning when i'm just doing this and that around the house honestly they look very squishy and uh you wouldn't know this but it's like walking on clouds underneath it all bombas yeah underwear and t-shirts yeah david they're flexible breathable and buttery smooth plus for every item you buy one is donated to someone facing housing insecurity head over to bombers.com flywall and use code flywall for 20 off your first purchase that's b-o-m-b-a-s.com flywall code flywall at checkout this episode is brought to you by state farm listening to this podcast smart move being financially savvy smart move another smart move having state farm help you create a competitive price when you choose to bundle home and auto bundling just another way to save with a personal price plan like a good neighbor state farm is there prices are based on rating plans that vary by state coverage options are selected by the customer availability amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by state dana this is a good transition because yeah let's transition this is the one year of the forest fires in la one year where was smoky where were you you could have fixed it now nothing to be joking about but it is the year anniversary it's all over the news i remember we were starting bus boys 2029 coming in 2030 after the next four avatars you'll see a preview to bus boys and chico california drive-in a special screening one screen only and one speaker that fits in your driver's side window it's getting there i know it's it's i'm working on the music theo's working on the special effects we don't have that many it's not i like it is there going to be a robot in it i don't know it's so dumb like no i don't know what it is we have rabbits and it's you and him it's it's it's you bake the cake it's a it's light summer fair so good we need aside from the heat around busboys there was heat in la and in a year later there's so much chaos about it literally nothing went right i mean they're still not building that many things they uh oh yeah i wrote down something that takes time i don't know how they it's just so sad oh well well the big trick was a hundred million dollars was raised in a fire benefit with huge acts you mean rock yeah yeah remember that benefit yeah made a lot going directly to the victims so so far nothing has gone to the victims so that was a big problem where is it with the somalis in minneapolis it got funneled they go you're good with money you guys can handle this yeah you're good yeah just give it to you guys you know what you're doing yeah yeah so that's frustrating for everyone to say the least.

17:47And I don't even know what NGOs do, but it went into little funds where they decided what to do with it. And sometimes that goes into some red tape and different things and salaries, and it doesn't quite get to the people. So now they're going to build some of it for low income housing, which I mean, kind of makes sense. It's not what everyone wanted that lived there but i get why they do that stuff um and but but not doing permits like they're not

18:16Dana Carvey:really helping people rebuild quickly um it's very tricky i don't know the minutia of it but first of all it's like all the wires and the gas lines and all that and then it's just getting all the debris out while keeping that stuff intact and then actually breaking ground and starting to build and then certain neighborhoods are completely decimated so you try to do it all at once you're bringing in water i i know it's complicated and i don't know what but where the hundred million what is a good question because that always helps you should know how to fix it all right okay so you clear the houses out you get all the electrical and water really really good and then you you bring in a lot of wood and a lot of carpenters and a lot of stuff well you go and you design the homes and then you build the homes.

19:08Right. Well, Labor Day, it's done.

19:13Dana Carvey:That's, that's what I'm thinking. Uh, Altadena, Palisades, Malibu, you know, so I told you I used to have a house there fully fucking toast, fully just in crumbs. Um, but yeah. Okay. Joke about it. Cause people we're not, we're not trying to joke. We're a comedy show. joking uh about the tragedy we're just we're kind of we're frustrated like everyone else that there's not more progress being made well because then then here come it's like the same broader problem with people paying taxes in california when they're building a hundred billion dollar train to sacramento san francisco area said i don't know if everyone's clamoring for it when you could take 10 billion and probably fix a lot of problems in California, but they keep pushing this 10 year thing about the train.

20:02That's just one of the crazy things. The homeless, they lose 20 billion, but they want more money for it. That's why people get tired of paying taxes and going, well, what are you doing? Gavin Newsom just vetoed a bill asking for an audit of where the money for homeless goes. He said, not a chance. You're not going to see that.

20:21Dana Carvey:Well, I don't think anyone could disagree with this there are states i don't have them off hand who basically you go to their website and they tell you where all the money's going yeah line by line maybe it's thousands of pages a year but you can see where it's going so when there's he's behind the curtain don't pay attention to gavin you know it's a little bit frustrating because you go you can't ask for more i mean if someone's if you're if you're in a household and someone's blowing all the money you go, what are you spending it on? Don't worry about it. Just give us more money. You go, well, I'd like to see some, something.

20:59And if it's fixing homeless, great, but don't just take it and then be like, homeless has gotten worse. You go, but you just, yeah.

21:06Dana Carvey:Excuse me, Gavin Newsom. Excuse me. Could we ask where the 20 billion went? That's a great question, but no. Garth, I'm sorry. That was Garth asking. It was guards, a little bit of guards. I told Wayne I'd ask, I'm just wondering if you know where the$20 billion went. We're looking into it, but right now we don't have any answers. But my main message to you is just ride around in your AMC Pacer and get some red rope lick race because we ain't telling you diddly squat. Red rope. I could probably go through$20 billion on DraftKings during the playoffs because I'm so bad at betting. yeah i've heard i've heard that about you and i said no i'm not gonna spread when i tell people i won a hundred dollars and i brag i don't mention i lost 900 no one ever does that they always talk about their wins here's what i want and everyone goes oh man you're you're living the high life i know i know what i'm doing i took the algo actually if i was smart i would bet and use chat GPT or use whatever just to say what are the best odds of the best teams and players and do it that way.

22:23Dana Carvey:Someone bet a lot of money because you can bet on anything. And I don't know if it was a Bitcoin site or something like that, but they made a bet where you're gambling that Trump, that Madeira would no longer be in power by like January 31st or whatever the date was. And they made the bet like three hours before they started the mission. Oh, oh, oh, oh. I know that's the inside info. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They said it was a guy. His last name was Hex this, but he didn't know what. No, I'm kidding. They have a predictive. This is the best invention. Predictive gambling. So it's not gambling. You're predicting the future.

23:05Dana Carvey:Predicting events. Yeah, it's not like. You think Avatar will make over a billion dollars. And you say, okay, I'm betting$100. And they can do that legally, and you're not sports betting. It's some loophole, and those stocks are skyrocketing. Yeah, you can bet about anything. You could bet how long will Avatar be in theaters. Yeah. Yeah. Will David, when is the next time David Spade will wear a blue sweatshirt on the podcast? You could bet that. When will... uh dana stop talking about housemaid what year

23:43Dana Carvey:i can switch to marty supreme anytime you want what decade will busboys come out was busboys ever actually real yes was busboys will we find out busboys was never shot it was just you and theo in a room laughing your asses all that i think everyone's gonna think that we got made a movie no i could uh okay i saw the pit last night because it's all the rage oh the pit this fucking doctor show you know about it it's actually really good it's a that's a bit gory but it's actually oh they do they show like operations and legs and things and yeah it's last night i was watching what's up doc what's the one where it's a female doctor o 'neil no it's It's called doc.

24:33No, it's just called doc, but it's exactly the pit. I mean, a doctor show, gray's anatomy. They all have a hook. I don't know what this one is. It might be, she goes in the past and remembers something from 10 years ago, but it's just the same thing. A guy has a problem. Oh, are they related? Let's get 10 CCS of ringers lactate. And so that's all it is, is a fast moving hospital. And then the problems of the doctors, but what is the pit? Is that what that is?

24:59Dana Carvey:It just, at least the first episode just takes place in the most radically packed hospital emergency ward. So it's no move, move, move coming through. Yeah. Coming through. He's got a leg. And then they're like, get it. C five, four, seven, four. Hematoma. Hematoma. Lava scene. We need some liposine. Rhino four set. C, C, C clear. Okay. Patient is, but you know, I mean, it's very detailed, but it moves really fast and it's like ER. Heather, the name of the lead, sorry. It's Noah Wiley, right? Yeah. Was it Wiley or Wiley? Wiley because he's from ER. Yeah, and he's great. The acting's great and everything is great.

25:39He's doing ER again, everyone. It's ER again.

25:41Dana Carvey:But with live streaming kind of gore. Is it all in one day? Yeah, I think so. I think so. But I don't know if the whole show is like that. Just the first episode. Yeah. I don't want to give this away about busboys, but it's all in two hours. It's just a reality show. We just all, it's two hours in the day of a busboy. Well, as far as medical shows, and I don't know if this is true, because this is very successful. I guess Hulu's going to do one about an extremely handsome doctor called Brad Pitt. So. Oh, there's the Pitt and there's Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt is just a show about a really handsome doctor.

26:22It's a guy named Brad Pittsburgh. by the way is is the pit because of pittsburgh no they call it the pit and he gets in trouble

26:33Dana Carvey:i don't know because he he just says it's the suckiest place on earth i think unless i miss well maybe it is part of pittsburgh you're right and they call it welcome welcome to the pit you know so the first day they go you're new here welcome to dog shit town right and the they have these interns following around and they have to see all this gore and blood and everything and one of them passes out and stuff like that well if you're if here's inside hollywood stupid if you're pitching a show to netflix or one of the networks yeah the show runner is probably the most important if you're going to do a show like this they will buy it off a show runner so if you're doing comedy and you go tina faye's gonna produce it and write it with me blah blah they're looking at that more than the star you would like a star attached or one or two but they want a whole package because i think anyone can walk in and say what about a crazy hospital where it's very fast moving but who takes care of the doctors and their problems and then everyone goes oh and so that's a very general idea but you get the guy that did er you get this and you get know a while and you get some super smart people and a great director that knows how to shoot that shit because it's very hard and the actors have to be that dialogue is flying and you can't and they're they're all good so somewhere in in the that the chain of command the producer the director the writers and the actors said let's make a next level hospital emergency room show yeah where it's what's the next version that people will be yeah and it's very it's very compelling i have to say you know i bet er would look slow right now because it was great at the time but what's next what are we doing what's tick tock what everything's got to go faster yeah everything everything's faster they don't have commercials you know just bam bam bam bam so with with you know thank you with er it'd be like damn it we need some oxygen stat and now a word from kellogg's cornflakes you know right in the middle so well you might not know this data you know a lot about people don't remember commercials go ahead but i did a spin-off of facts of life which is an old show oh you and i played a med student well wait a minute 25 grand it was so juicy what was it called it was a factor life spinoff pilot was it called fenster hall no it's called the little pit i worked at a hospital and no i worked at a hospital and richard rico was on this like i'm giving away my age he let's go back to 1959 it was natalie from facts life it was mickey rooney's a child no i'm not that old it was natalie from facts life right and she spun off where she moved to new york and then she has roommates and she lives with a bunch people i'm one of them i'm a doctor i'm a med student greek go and it's a great looking pilot so i did the pilot and in the pilot i have to come home i'm the goofball but then at the end i'm on the balcony and like a little fan on me like this she's like what's wrong i'm like i lost one today and it's like first patient i lost and it's really moving anywhere in nature I'm sadly, I think so.

29:58And then we'll play it next week. And then I lost the patient and then I kind of lost the show for it. I think my acting really, there's no golden globe going on. And the guy that was the good looking kid immediately when that didn't get picked up, got his own show called Booker and he went on for five seasons as a super stud.

30:19Dana Carvey:It's always humiliating. You walk in, you're reading for something and then you see 10 guys that kind of look like you and you go no one has a chin they're pretty short they're kind of cute what are all these other squids doing here no it's like oh so this is how if you walk in everyone's muscled up and like six five you kind of know you're in the right place you know the worst times i've gone in for like the good looking guy you know dana mostly i go for hunk parts yeah so it goes this uh local hunk surfer walks in and i'm in the room with all these goodling guys going I hope to God we're not all reading for the same thing.

30:56And they're like, what are you reading for? He doesn't have like a dopey friend. And I go, no, I'm the guy, man. Surf's up. And they're like, yeesh. I go, we're reading all five scenes. They go, we're just going to read one line from one. That's all we need today. That is a trick in an audition. There's five scenes you memorize all night. It's impossible. You get in, you got them all ready. You read the first scene and they go, thank you. i go well there's four other ones i'm really good in the fourth one it's the best one good

31:27Dana Carvey:i think we have our answer well i would eventually i realized i had no power because i wasn't on tv but they were sending me out to audition a lot so then what i would do was i would never have a picture so i'd be the guy with no eight by ten because that seemed kind of weak here's my photo so i also would crumple the script up and put it in my back pocket even though i'd studied it and made my choices i bring it out like what is this again good again yeah but you know what are you doing all this i read for paul newman you know and joanne woodward i tested for amadeus i did a pilot with Seinfeld guy, Michael Richards.

32:11You wanted to play Charlie Chaplin's friend.

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32:14Dana Carvey:I played, yeah, I read for Chuck Chaplin part two. You auditioned for that old movie where you hang on the clock. They had a fake clock there and you'd be like. Buster Keaton. Well, I did get Tough Guys with Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas. I swear to you, and I'm not even lying, last night my buddy goes. Let's watch Tough Guys. no he sent me a picture of blue thunder and he goes how did i not see this and how did i don't know dana was in it i go i don't know a lot of people know this was it a year it was stupid i just i don't know what i was thinking you know okay i'll read for blue thunder of course take it so i read it and i got a little confused i'm reading with james farantino i read it and i got confused and i ad-libbed a little bit okay so then i drove home to the valley i drove an hour away there were no cell phones i got home and they called me and said they want you back you know you have to go back and read again you're in the finals i had to drive back so then i got the silly thing and then i was just quentin wonder love in a helicopter with a helmet a fake helicopter that was your stupid name yeah and all my lines were literally like james ferentino go jam him joffo because my nickname was just another frustrated observer joffo jam him and my line was david i you not i don't think even daniel day lewis could score this i am jamming i am jamming cut that's good stuff dude and then i got fired in front of it joffo damn it joffo jam i am jamming jim but jamming up your ass jim james ferrentino liked a cocktail so he had styrofoam cups this big i thought they were water so he gets out of the chopper i go fuck off you know he goes down the ladder i go and it was straight vodka i love it and then basically the day i got fired they said dana come down and the whole 100 people are there i'm in the outfit i got the helmet on i take it off i come down the fake helicopter and they go you're fired so i had to walk in front of everyone the walk is shame and i went to the wardrobe guy was super nice and i i was i was a little i wanted to be fired i think that's why i got fired but i said i do comedy i'm actually kind of funny he goes he goes that's all right son put his hand on my shoulder that's okay and then eight years later right off i got off snl i was at an event and he was the the wardrobe guy and he goes you were right oh that's great that that came around isn't that a cool story that'll train yeah what about james frantino was he in my favorite show long street or not?

34:50I don't remember. When I was a little baby, he played, I think, a blind detective. Did he? Why are they redoing that? Blind detective who doesn't know shit. And he's solving crime.

35:02Dana Carvey:Yeah. In an all new sightless. No, Longstreet. Longstreet, a blind detective? And I remember in Variety they said, Longstreet's a long shot to get picked up. Was that a Western? No, he had a dog and he would just so it was around the era of night stalker darren mcgavin oh i would love night soccer we're so old i'm sad and i love kojak yeah go jack with the lollipop you know fuck yeah who loves you kid who loves you baby look it was analog time every single millennial gen x i don't even know all the flavors they all worship the analog time they watched reruns of gray's anatomy like millions of them because there's no live you know all that so there's no let's get to some top stories we would talk about the golden globes but it just happened and we didn't see it right well i'll make a nicky glazer did great nicky glazer did great that's a good one all right what's this read it this is rutgers professor says whiteness is going to have an end date we got to take these out i agree i agree i mean um we've got three people right now that agree me you and her i mean i'm not literally you know when you think about like this is white am i white no i'm i'm splotchy no they don't mean us they don't mean us so no there's people out there that are annoying yeah we got to take these out well it's colorful it's uh very clear it's clickbaity it's clickbaity and rutgers is a very reputable university listen white he's having a rough go of it lately but let's keep going let's see because we're taking a few shots there's a woman that gave a speech and she kind of came down but i might agree with her too where's that video danie you're really white i'm like i'm sort of blending i'm like uh if you get up close I'm blotchy.

37:03Okay. This is New York mayor.

37:05Dana Carvey:She works in Mandani's administration. Tenant director. I don't even know what that is. Okay. Housing, you know, rent. I think the reality is, is that for centuries, we've really treated property as an individualized good and not a collective good. And we are going to, and transitioning to treating it as a collective good and towards a model of shared equity. will require that we think about it differently. And it will mean that families, especially white families, but some POC families who are homeowners as well are going to have a different relationship to property than the one that we currently have.

37:48A different relationship.

37:49Dana Carvey:Yes, I actually saw this and my wife and I kind of went, yeah, so we're starting to foster a different relationship with our property. ironically and bizarrely i got a letter from the governor's office saying that paul and i qualified to move into your house my house yeah it was just some they put it in a computer like hal 2000 or something but that's a new relationship with my property yeah i am i'm gonna i'm rethinking my relationship with my property you know what does it mean do you think though i don't know i I mean, I saw Dr. Zhivago is this famous movie doesn't date. Famous doctor. But the Soviet Union is forming and they're taking over and they just go into people's houses and go, get out.

38:38Dana Carvey:We're going to put nine families in here. So it sounds a little bit like communism, but I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm rethinking my entire relationship with property. I don't know how many bedrooms you have, but you might be able to only have one person moving with you. You're looking at it. Superman? Well, Superman can sleep in here. He can stay. No, that's New York, though. Yeah, that's New York. And it's all smushed in with all these places. Yeah, and Mamdani— They're trying to figure out ways to get people in the house. He won the election, and he's a socialist Democrat, and so he's just doing that.

39:20Dana Carvey:brand bernie who i kind of admire has been of that political stripe for his whole career don't proceed don't proceed we don't have a we have plenty of money but it's not in the right hands but i get it you know people like i guess we keep we didn't have famous billionaires back in the day we didn't have as many billion we didn't have any yeah so i don't think anyone was a bill when i grew up my friend this girl i liked her dad was a millionaire we thought at school we had a roof we went over to his house to see him i honestly wanted to see what he looked like and i swear to god we went over there and i'm like it's like seeing an alien i'm like he looks like regular people they're blending in he walks he talks but he talks like a normal thousandaire but he's a millionaire so i thought do you have a million dollars like what would you even where where is it is and i'm looking in rooms inflation where's a pile of money uh and then he goes do you want to do some work on a house this summer on my roof and i'm like i can't ask for a million even because i think that's all he has but i know he's going to pay us a lot and that was not that was not the case oh that's how he got to be a millionaire he's a he's like here's 20 bucks i'm like to get on this mother effing roof and this summer in arizona do anything if you just climb up the ladder give me 20 bucks yeah no in those days i mean my first job well first i when i was 18 i went to mcdonald's and they said you can sweep the parking lot and the starting wage was a buck 35 and i said if you give me a buck 40 i'm in right now right now and they said i gotta talk to my boss so i eventually i got a job as a dishwasher at the holiday end guess what 260 an hour you got that much more you doubled it 260 but it was 260 dishes an hour i it was i was drenched in sweat i had a giant thing i'd run them through because it was holiday end breakfast just piles i would everyone's eating plates the boss guy who hired me came back every 20 minutes and say are you gonna finish your shift because the last 10 guys tapped out said fuck this man not for 260 i'm gonna drench the sweat cut my hand with my hobart 3000 eating french toast that's just off a thing i ate everything off when i was a dishwasher i ate everything that came through and when i was a bus boy i everything i took off the table not a question i was a bus boy too but we called ourselves table maintenance personnel managers you know gave us some you know a little bit yeah a little more juice gave it gave us a little juice so we were both dishwashers we were both bus boys and we're both on saturday night live yeah it's funny we have a lot going on it's funny funny little spring starts at the home depot and we are bringing the heat to your backyard this season.

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43:24Dana Carvey:in a classroom of sodas most stay quiet then there's mr pib sweet cherry bold outburst the kind of flavor that gets attention bold kicker cherry hey yo mr pib okay so next one let's see what else we got yeah we're doing so we're good we're doing so good we're so so proud this is just funny

43:49diddy and your venezuela guy in jail and diddy's doing his hair in braids which is hysterical i know they took my oil too he says yeah so that's just a funny pun and it's a funny cartoon i forgot people don't they only if they only listen it's diddy doing his hair and And he said he took my oil, too.

44:12Dana Carvey:Yeah, you have to. I mean, simple to the point. Funny. Last week, I was observing that that Trump, you know, he was criticizing George Clooney in a kind of a Trump way, like he's never really been in a movie. He's quite frankly, not a movie star. He's won two Oscars. And I thought, what's the ultimate? It's like if Hussein Bolt attacked Trump, Trump would be like, he never ran very fast. he's not even very fast so you look at him he's quite frankly he's very slow you know he's quite frankly frankly the funniest thing it buys him a little time when he's talking oh he never runs out he just goes goes it's unreal what about he wants greenland now well he wanted it he made some inroads before and then then he went he got canada was the shiny object and now he's back now Now, we have a treaty with Denmark regards Greenland signed in 1951 that allows us to build any kind of military base we want there.

45:14Dana Carvey:And Greenland's people today said, we'll do whatever you want. But could you ask nicely? Yeah. If Trump said, we're not going to take over, we're not going to blow anything up, but we put some bases. We'll get the rare earth, the rare earth. And if you think about it, you look at rare earth. We're going to get rare earth. It's not easy to say. i don't think jd vance could say it we're gonna get the rare earth we're gonna give you two percent off the top two percent that's a lot for denmark it's a little tiny country i'm gonna tell you he says greenland only has about 148 people he always lowballs what what's going on it's got like 45 000.

45:51Dana Carvey:yeah that's still low but i do think the traditional thing is you go in you get the rare earth and you spread it nicely with with the people right you cut them in give them a little wet the beak a little bit but it is a little weird if like 400 years ago some people from denmark and a canoe went there it's like a billion miles across we claim this for denmark for all time we get this we get i mean it says you gotta you gotta go fast we should have gone to like russia we put a flag on the moon do we own the moon i don't know you know do we own the moon it's a We should have said that then if we said it.

46:29Dana Carvey:Can I ask you a question? Please. So, because my mind, it's a hard time wrapping around this. So in 1969, with a slide rule and a tin can and a hope and a dream and scotch tape, we put dudes on the moon. And now with all these advancements, 75 years later, NASA finally said, we're going to put four astronauts in a thing and they're going to circle the moon and land again. And hey, it's 1968. We did that in 1968, I believe. So what they found. They said we don't have the technology anymore. They lost it. I'm like. Lost it? Where is it? At Arby's in the parking lot or something? Yeah, they lost it in someone's pocket.

47:08Dana Carvey:We had the orders. We can't. We just. They fell in a sewer pipe. By the way, we didn't have an iPhone. We've done all this stuff. We can't figure out how to get back. No, the computer. Yeah, it was like a. Yeah. And they had a hard line that there's no delay. Hey, how's it going on the moon? We're here, man. It's all good. But honestly, for must-see TV with digital television, put some dudes on the moon and some women, build a little hotel or something. Yeah, Love Island. Just call it Love Island Moon and make it the biggest show. Love Island Moon. Love Island Moon. They don't have gravity. Everything stays up.

47:48Dana Carvey:The men who have a problem downstairs, They don't even know because the gravity and you look at it, you think about it. Everybody's talking about it. Quite frankly, I think it's a great idea. I like what he wants. Greenland, and he goes, he's like Michael Jackson when he used to walk around those places like Maxfields. And he's like, one of those? One of those? Sir, that's not for sale. Okay, three of those. And I want that. All right, send them. And they're like, these aren't for sale. You're in a park. I know. Well, it's just rich. just uh well we just have our own spin on it but it's it's it's not boring out there in trumpland and we're making moves you know we make fun of everyone we take over if we don't like them we come in in the night and we have a little thing where we can turn out the lights in the city and then they're all they're you know the helicopters come in low and it's like a really really good just salt by the way our friend marcello hernandez uh i'm gonna go i think see his special tonight he is in town and um he said he wants to come on we haven't had him on shockingly so uh oh yeah he's great yeah i just love he does he's he's uh he's good on that show he's a new kevin right on the show what was the one that we loved oh he did a Sebastian which really really pops special is out i think now yeah that's good all right what other story we'll do another one even though we're doing too much we're doing so good someone has a hard out here we go a teenager is facing criminal charges after sticking googly eyes on an 88 000 sculpture who decided that well can't you take the googly eyes off why is what is the what's why were they can't because it'll chip the paint Oh, so the sculpture So he fucked the sculpture By the way, let's back up and say I'm an artist Let's make a royal blue pelican No, penguin with a gut That's my next big project Slumped over Bad posture Penguin Sad with distended belly But I don't want anyone messing it up And then He puts it in the middle of a park.

50:02I always see stuff in parks. I'm like, we did not pay for that, I hope. We did not pay for that. And then I don't like people ruining things, but this is not the worst.

50:11Dana Carvey:Well, what are you going to do with the kid? Bring him to court, you know? Bill Swinson, do you freely admit guilt to putting googly eyes on a distended belly plastic penguin in Wilson Park last Saturday? He pleads down to regular eyes. Yeah. I didn't even know they were googly eyes, man. I just found them on a trash can. No, they're actually on the playground and I found the googly eyes and I said, maybe I'll attach it to that stupid penguin thing. You're out of order. Yeah. That royal blue eyesore, but art is also, is it worth ADA? Who's deciding this dumb fee for this artwork? I don't know.

50:56Dana Carvey:I changed my mind on modern art when I was at the museum or whatever fucking, you know, and there was a, there was a painting that was 50 feet wide and like 15 feet tall. It took up the whole thing, pitch white, but one red dot in the middle. Now give me a million dollars. Come on. I'll buy it right. That's what you call fake. Okay. It's fake. God. Well, every, when people say art is money laundering, it sort of makes sense because these rich guys go back and forth and say i'll give you i bought a painting for 40 million i'm going to sell it to you for 70 million yeah you get for 100 million and and that's the one thing you can't really put a price on so no scarcity oh that's not worth that you know because if i buy a car i would love to write to the irs and say i spent 2 million on this uh 68 nova and if it's just a regular nova they go no it's worth 2 000.

51:57Dana Carvey:well here's if it's art here's the deal the i remember dennis telling me once christ six in the end of the day carvey it's about planes and paintings now there's there's trillions of dollars sloshing around in the global economy all these newly minted millionaires and billionaires they've got the multiple houses they've got the multiple g5s but there's only like maybe 10 five or 10 basquiats they're still available and they're rare you know there's a built-in scarcity and it's kind of some of the collecting you've done it it you tend to make money on these things if you have the if you can prove it's scarce and it's real yeah yeah even baseball cards all that i do like that stuff better because there is a finite number of them but when you go to artwork And you feel like you're being clowned, like these people that just spray paint.

52:49They have a crowd around, they just throw paint on a wall or they're on a swing. And I'm like, is this really that hard?

52:55Dana Carvey:Now you can use AI, you can use projectors, you can tape, you can squeeze, you can do whatever. When I retire, which I won't till I'm 95, but when I do, I'm going to just do visual art. Yeah. But you're actually good at it. Well, I just like it. I don't know if I'm good at it, but I do like it. And there are no rules. It's kind of like with music. you can pitch a voice you could the ai can do the music it the creativity like right now we should probably announce this it's probably awkward to do it okay it's a good time yeah well i'm a digital ai reproduction of dana carvey i know i look like him really cool looking and really funny and all that but i'm not him and that's david's digital so we've presented this No, I'm still really mean.

53:43Dana Carvey:On behalf of chat GBT. I have chat THC and I ask it to do stuff and it goes, oh my God, I just woke up. I can't do it. Okay, that's a pretty good joke. By the way, pull the blinds. Ask me again in one hour. But at some point that is possibly real. We know that people doing podcasting, their ads are read by AI. That's happening right now. they can do your voice and do your cadence we do all our hello yeah we do all as we grind hello i'm david spade and they go no chat gbt no david spade from you know tommy boy who's that guy hello i'm david spade chat gbt that's how nothing like him no david spade you've seen him on letterman okay let me try my next voice rackham oh i'm david spade you know that's more like now that's that's spade in a nutshell all right let's do one more great story one more great story i know you've got a hard out i got a hard out i'm not gonna actually i'm doing hotel transylvania stuff you actually have a reason to go you're going to another job i have to go somewhere yeah you're going to let's see i don't know what this one is let's see okay it says ringo star was at manchester airport and there was a uk tick tocker there called ed back he was on live stream all right ringo star ringo star ringo star just casually walked up into the live stream and started talking to him and he didn't even recognize who it was you were mate take a look at this yeah Yeah, mate.

55:27Oi! Oh, no! Oh, you're not on the radio. You all right, brother? Where are you from? I'm from Liverpool. Oh, really? I've just come from Manchester. Ah. We must be brothers. I don't know. Is it real? Because I do that. Who is that?

55:43Dana Carvey:Oh, from Liverpool. The boys. Peace and love. Peace and love. The boys. There we go. Peace and love. Oh, you got the balloons. Look at how you did it, David. Look at that. now i think that might be real because the guy just goes he's too worried about his stream and then when ringo's standing there in like an airport ready to fly or something whatever he's doing the guys the ringo guy's covering the lower part of his face but it is ringo yeah oh it is ringo that's why it's interesting because he goes up and then he goes we must be brothers yeah we're like the brothers peace of love by the way you wouldn't give that fake of a laugh to a real Beatle he goes we must be brothers and he goes I'd be like we can't be brothers you know yeah I'd pop a stitch on that one and then then he kind of drifts off and then he's reading the stream and he goes Beatle Ringo what do you what do you say he goes Ringo what and he's like oh that was Ringo now is it a riveting story no that's not what we do here well I read a thing the other day and it was i think it was um sean lennon being worried that the beatles could be forgotten will the beatles be forgotten and um i it'll be a long time because beethoven and you know mozart haven't been forgotten there's still there's still tribute bands for beethoven the beetles are are something that happened that shouldn't have happened even to them It's too much variety, too much exploratory music, too many barriers crash through, too much influence on music.

57:22Dana Carvey:So I'm sorry. I'm a Beatle fan. And you know what's weird? I'm the only one. There's only one. I'm the final one. Conan a little bit. You. Well, yeah, I am a big fan. Beethoven is so influential. They named a dog movie after. well and also his greatest composition is literally bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum he did it with one finger he was having a soda pop on the other side sody pa hey tovon you got a new song yeah i think uh bum bum bum bum bum that's genius no they never forget it that's it and then Mozart. I read for Amadeus. I tested for Amadeus. I was very close to getting that part. The guy who played Mozart.

58:20Favorite movie.

58:21Dana Carvey:Really? Huh. She told Dustin Hoffman, you were in Tootsie, which is my third favorite movie or something. Tootsie really holds up for the type of movie. Tootsie is so good. Tootsie is great. Tootsie. Charles Durning. I love Tootsie. I don't care where you're from You'll laugh at it Yeah, you'll love Dusty in that Dusty was so good in that No Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to seduce me It's Adam Sandler As Benjamin The Graduate Alright, let's wrap up I think we did good I was going to say I'm with Nicky this weekend in Vegas If anybody's out there And after that it's Wisco, Pittsburgh iceberg nashville there's a lot of them this weekend at caesar's palace in vegas which by the way i did a corporate date in there's an incredible theater and it's a theater play the coliseum yeah and the stage is slightly goes like that but they're this it's such a cliche but there's no bad seat in the house the way they built it everyone feels like they're right on top you so it's great for the audience and great for you and nick we did promos in there and i was like oh this is it.

59:37This is so cool. But I think I, I went to see someone there and I was like, this place is going off.

59:43Dana Carvey:It's, it's cool. It's a, it's a very, it's probably the coolest venue. It's big, but it's not too big. You know, that's what she said. So next time I will tell you how it went. We'll talk about it. Oh, excellent. All right. Well, okay. Have a good day. Happy anniversary. And we'll have a full report next time we talk. Goodbye, everybody.

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1:00:36Dana Carvey:Our senior producer is Greg Holtzman, and the show is produced and edited by Phil Sweet-Tech. Booking by Cultivated Entertainment. Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura Curran, Melissa Wester, Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kurt Courtney, and Lauren Vieira. Reach out with us. Any questions to be asked and answered on the show, you can email us at flyonthewall at odyssey.com. That's A-U-D-A-C-Y.com.

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Dana and David jump on to celebrate Dana’s 43rd wedding anniversary—but let’s be honest, the real milestone is ANOTHER deep dive into Housemaid, now that David has finally seen it. From there, the guys mark the one-year anniversary of the LA fires and ask the big question: where did all the money actually go? Along the way: audition survival tips, why Love Island: Moon would be the greatest reality show ever, their very official takes on modern art, and news!

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