Hannah Berner: Gossiping with Nikki Glasser, working with Amy Poehler, and Giggly Squad

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25:17i like when theo theo always says something funny so i figure you were standing around there when kate hudson was there and and she goes hey i want to she goes is that guy on the podcast and i go yeah i go say hi to him and she goes okay so i go theo come here he stands there like he's three years old hey how you doing and she goes yeah and he goes she was wearing a long sleeve black shirt because it was a day and it was a tent it was just tented but not like with doors and everything it was just like an airy tent like a circus and then you could walk in and out you know breeze around and he goes it's really hot outside but it's nicer under the tent but there's no signs to say that it's nicer under the tent so he goes i was down there for so long but there's no sign And she goes, oh, yeah, well, maybe they should have some.

26:05Because they don't stand in the faking fucking sun.

26:09Dana Carvey:Was there a pecking order? I might think there'd be the cool group and then the super cool group. It was very high school. There's the super seniors that are saying hi to all the pecking teachers. That was Letterman, Chappelle, and Eddie Murphy. Yeah. Was Shane there? Shane was not there. Shane wasn't there. I guess he was prepping. Interesting. He was touring, I think. He was playing North Dakota. You put a stage in the middle of the stage. Yeah. The Midwest he was playing. He was playing the Grand Canyon. When we interviewed Shane on this podcast, he was sort of this SNL thing that just happened.

26:52Dana Carvey:Oh, wow. He was like, yeah, I'm playing clubs. And they're talking about a theater maybe or so. And then like skyrocketing. Houston. I met Shane back in the day When he was like opening for people And I was just sitting in a green room With him and he was like if I could just get a comedy Central scripted Show off the ground that would be my dream And it was Beautiful Well Dave do you have a Shane story Where he's even before that He was working at AutoZone If I could even go to a comedy Club I would pay so much money Shane you're going to be big No, when I met Shane, he already had a money gun Like ASAP Rocky No, I don't see him that much I do like Shane, I think he's funny But what about all the drama with the roast Oh, I know I didn't go Did Paige say she went?

27:49No, Paige wouldn't go anywhere without me Okay I like that You guys are really friends It's not just for the podcast

27:57Dana Carvey:It's not a fake friendship yeah because i heard you guys blabbing about it and it was like she said it was too long and i was like i people don't know when you see a roast normally there's some fat trim now so they help you a little bit they're like get rid of that one get rid of that but yeah like when she goes the rock was on forever and he saw it i feel he got drunk he was lucy that's right he gave a Like a wedding speech. He did have my favorite, one of my favorite lines when he said, what'd he say? He said, Tony was a sassy bigot. A sassy. That's God. There was Dana. There was some fucking shrapnel flying right and left.

28:40Crazy. It was like, do you think they need to do it live? Like, I feel like people would still watch it two hours condensed, protected. I think Netflix is on a live kick because the best rating, on network chris rock special was all football all these things so you know 18 out of the top 20 shows in the year of football games and monday night so they go what's live what can we make live chris rock do him live you know just try things have the guy climbing the skyscraper live there's something about it like we have to watch it now and so the roast is good live i think they'll keep it live but maybe it's better you see all the bumps and bruises because there's some dead spots there's some shit where you're like wait am i supposed to walk up now and you know they would

29:29Dana Carvey:take that it's like a podcast people are doing the dishes oh he's on you know i mean it's like a background noise they just want to hear a little racism in the background would you ever do live stand-up on netflix the money's good scared regularly rock said it was so scary and he He doesn't get that scared. He's never been scared of anyone. I don't think he would do it again. He was scared when he was growing up, but I think he's cooler now. I also think he did well. I love to leave before. Right when I hit my hot spot, I'm like, got to go. That's how I am in social situations. That's how I'll be on this podcast.

30:11It's already too long.

30:12Dana Carvey:Always leave before you peak. Yeah, exactly. Leave him wanting more. So what about Chris? How do you relate to that? That's what you just said. Do you think he landed it perfectly? I mean, he threw the mic over his head, right? Yeah, you said he got off. He should have got off sooner. Oh, The Rock? No, Chris. Oh, you're talking about No Rock. Oh, yeah, No Rock. Let's start over. I've got a Rock Hudson chunk that I do. I do a Rock Hudson impression. And I also could do Rocky. no rocky that's the first time we've gone seven minutes on a podcast talking about rock and it was the wrong person not chris rock it was the rock and we actually were agreeing for a very long time and well no they they match they match pretty good oh you said is the rock scared of anyone and i was like chris rock that's what i i was like well you were talking about chris rock the special and then and then hannah brought in rock yeah at the at the thing yeah it was it It was a disaster.

31:16Dana Carvey:It was a podcasting peak. That was podcasting. We're going to keep this. We're not going to edit. So would you ever be roasted if they were going to pay you seven figures? Well, actually, I'm not like a roast comic. Like when I was doing the clubs all the time, like I judge a roast battle every now and then, but I never did it. I did that one thing for Netflix where I did like roasting the year with Jeff Ross, which they gave us like five days to like come up with material. And it was it was like very fun. I don't think I like attention. So I don't think there's anything people would say that I would be like, you know, I can't say no right now because I do.

32:05No, but I mean, like I was even talking to Chelsea before and she's like, they're going to call me a whore. And I'm like, a whore is so like 2000. thousands like yeah oh that's what you guys are talking about i like that angle like trying to guess what they're gonna say she was like and i was like do better and then like that she's old and it's like she looks fucking hot she did look great she looked great um yeah go ahead well i'm

32:31Dana Carvey:just curious about you in life like i had the need to please disease for a long time then i had five years of therapy. Um, and so how, how were you in life? Like, because when you're watching these roasts, you see actual hurt, you see pain, you know, because, because the idea is like, is there, is this how the world perceives me? Is this the way they think about me? Not all the time. You can see they're good sports. Kevin Hart's got so much muscle memory around this. I think he is literally impenetrable. You'll see, is this the way, what's the cruelest thing they could say about me so i also think as a new yorker i'm originally from brooklyn new york oh our our language is just shitting on each other just yeah like i get i walked out like an example my my dad roasts me non-stop and he's my best friend no no i'll put red lipstick on he's like you look like a clown and i'm like it's beautiful to be seen by my father you know and but that's That's how we show love.

33:33We make fun of each other. So like making fun, like if I met David at the brunch and he was like, Hey, how are you? I'd be like, he fucking hates me. But we're making fun of each other. And I'm like, love that guy. So yeah, right. But my, they would make fun of me for being on reality TV. They'd make fun of me for being a woman in comedy. They'd make fun of me for, I mean, that having an older husband, like, and nothing that I haven't heard i've i've survived reality tv internet like yeah i uh you've survived those whispers in the microphone when they go back and look at the tapes they're like these two i've i've done the you go on stage all the male comics leave because the girl's on stage like that's the most painful like oh my god what comedy clothes that you go on stage like there's like a good show on and like every comic's on and everyone's hanging by the you know yeah we're ever watching and then you go up and everyone's gone.

34:33I'm like, what the fuck? Where do you go on to do sets? Where do you practice? So I came up at the stand. Like I really lived at the stand. During COVID, we were like on the sidewalk. There'd be like a full family, children, and I'd be just talking about, you know, my pussy and seeing. As we do. As we do. You know how it is. Just saying crazy shit and then you just see like a dog going by just looking at you, just disappointed in you. But I think like that really got me, kept me sane too, because I had come from reality TV and I was like, I just want to be myself and be on stage and off the internet and just like feeling alive.

35:20and as a former tennis player stand-up was very similar to me than tennis like you're alone out there you're battling your demons and i just got obsessed with it so how i mean i was just curious

35:32Dana Carvey:because you're on the reality show and then you become this how long did it take you or did it was it were you doing it all along or when why did you leave the reality how did you get really good at this all all great questions so i was thank you hannah in 2017 i started working for this like company called betches where they make funny memes so i was the one writing like funny tweets i was writing sketches so it was like a joke writing boot camp but i never wanted to be a stand-up comedian i love stand-up comedy but i just didn't see that for me but i met a lot of New York stand-ups because I would put them in my sketches and stuff.

36:12And then I started – And your Vox Pop. And my what? What is Vox Pop? Oh, that was – I had a sales job, cold calling sales before that. Oh, I'm sorry. It's okay. Because it says part of Betches, it says her Vox Pop comedy. Oh, I've no – that sounds like – Interview series. Maybe – who knows? I don't know. I have, I have Vox Pop. I got it treated. I have to legally tell you. It's a pill. It's a pill or two. Pill and a half. Okay, go ahead. I slowed you down.

36:46Dana Carvey:So back to how you became a great standup. I'm posting sketches online and whatever, and I never considered standup. And then I get asked to do a reality TV show and I'm like, fuck it. I'm 26. I'm single. Well, I didn't think I'm a fit for reality TV, but whatever. I like attention. I wanted to be on camera, which is embarrassing. You know when you admit to yourself you want to be on camera? I think we all are embarrassing, but yes. Yes. So then I started podcasting pretty early. I had my own mental health comedy pod. And my first live show was at Caroline's in New York City. and it was a sold out show because i had just started the reality tv show and my friend this was really fucked up i had a i had a bunch of friends in stand-up who were like we think you have the chops you're writing jokes all the time try we dare you to try some stand-up at the top of your show which any stand-up would say is you shouldn't do but i basically took all my tweets and stuff and i'm like that's a premise that's a punchline and i i put them in sections and I love writing and I thought I was going to bomb I also had a lot of anxiety when I was a tennis player with performance like whenever I could fold or like a cheap beach chair I would um so I was like oh no I'm putting myself up again to fucking embarrass myself but I swear to god I got on stage and I felt weirdly calm and after the show everyone was like the stand-up in the beginning was our favorite part and then i had a bunch of people stand-ups be like if you want to do this the right way you got to get up four times a night and i kind of just put my head down and did that and i got fired from the reality tv show so that was a beautiful coincidence to then who dropped the hammer on you did somebody fire you on there it was it was more like you if you have to get along with the friend group oh yeah so you didn't play well with others they were like we don't want you here anymore and i was like okay fuck you guys but the comedians in my life kept me sane because i would tell them all the crazy stuff that happens on reality tv like all the editing and the franken bites and what they're cutting out and my comedy friends thought it was so funny so instead of like offing myself because i was having a horrible time on reality tv my stand-up comedy friends were like that's hilarious use that on stage and it was kind of like a therapeutic thing to fall into stand-up well you did summer house that was the call right so you're kind of when you go up the first time i just wanted to get to the audience kind of know you and also you had a podcast so you weren't just a waitress who went on stage yeah no no no but i I was at a point, though, where when I ended my reality TV careers three years, two amazing, beautiful years, one bad year.

39:48When I went on stage, I felt like people hated me. Like I felt like I had a bad scent on me. And I feel like as a comedian, people have to trust you. You have to be likable. Like that's the number one part. So going on stage, I had to overcome like these people think I'm a type of way. and I have to show, like, I'd rather you just be like, oh, I don't like Hannah for Hannah, then I don't like her for this scene that isn't how it actually happened. Oh, also most people walk up and there's a blank slate. Like you have to win them over one way or the other. They deceive you. There's no preconceived notion.

40:28So you're going in sort of at a deficit. Like, I think they don't like me already. yes but i also was so fortunate that i could sell tickets yeah enough like i could sell i wasn't selling out clubs but i was selling enough to go on the road so i had someone tell me like look you'll be able to sell the tickets the first time but if it's not good they're not going to come back so i kind of had this like this is your chance but um i i'm a creative person and i just I was like thank god I'm not doing reality tv anymore and I want to write my own stuff and be a performer and make people bring people joy you know so it ended up very pretty quickly like four years five years into stand-up was my first Netflix special god it's a lot of pressure to go because a lot of people have to build an audience and they get to get better while they do it but you have the crowd there it's almost like harder to say why aren't you this good like a professional headline you're like i just started and they also have to do lots of time probably well i i say that i had to do an hour very early so even when i said oh i'm two years into comedy i'd been doing an hour the whole time so while doing sets in between but um i feel like i had so much stage time and when i first started i actually started with i joked i had 45 minutes and i got off stage and they're like you did 33 minutes in a q a like i was fighting for my life yeah but then you like get one good story and next thing you know you're 40.

42:03and i have a lot of friends who were like i i i'm not ready for an hour i'm not ready for an hour and i kind of just went about it in a my own way i think if i went the traditional way i wouldn't be where i am today because i'd still be like working on my, I mean, when I got JFL new faces, I never had had a type five. I had to reverse engineer what my type five would be. Cause I started with 15 at the clubs. Did you, I love your resume and how you got into it.

42:36Dana Carvey:I just wondered if when in those five years, did you have times when you're like, uh, something happened on stage and it was epiphanal, like this is my lane or this is winding down. This is what I do. This is what I'm best at, you know, cause David had that, you know, cause he was right out of eighth grade when he got started. Remember David, the owner of the club said to David, the throwaways between the lines, there's your sweet spot. Right. He said my first time, he said, I go, how was I? It was only amateur night. It was like three minutes, but he goes, uh it was all right that material wasn't that great he goes actually what you were saying between was funnier and he walked away and i was like did you then i listened to it and i was like i was saying stuff in between commenting and that sort of was my whole thing because that was your authentic self yeah and you are doing something you like with comedy versus a reality show which you're not really doing anything you're just like physically there but in front of the camera you're Getting used to pressure and performance.

43:40Dana Carvey:They would feel, yeah. Well, I think it was so great for my career. For sure. Like now I'm so, my ego has been broken so many times that now, like what, and now I know when to speak, when not to speak. Like when I was on reality TV, I was just like, I'm just going to say my truth. And now I'm like, this is not, you have to protect yourself and protect your family. At all times. I've made so many mistakes when I was young. So now that I'm like really into standup, I feel smarter. But yeah, it was, I did get, I have to give credit to my husband who's, he's a big standup in Ireland. His whole career was in Ireland.

44:20Oh, really?

44:20Dana Carvey:Oh, that's great to hear. Yeah. So he's like experienced a lot. He was the one who, when I got my first Netflix special offer, he was like, yeah, no, you need a tour for eight more months. And if he wasn't there, I would have just been like, okay, let's film it. And he also told me, because I just wanted to kill and I'm a perfectionist kind of. So I'd go on stage and I just like hit it every time. And he was like, give yourself permission to get lost on stage, like not know where you are. Like the like what was said to you, like the magic is when you're trying to figure it out. And he's like, you're not going to get better unless you're loose.

44:59and that's where I kind of started to get more into like the crowd work which I think kind of gave me um a little bit of my voice because I feel like I talk to people like they're my friend like I'm not just like and guy in the front with their shirt like I I actually try to like understand them and and doing the clubs it's so fun to talk to the audience especially when you're sick of your material so I think crowd work was also where I was able to obviously do clips and stuff, but where I was able to find my perspective. Yeah. Cause I think sometimes

45:34Dana Carvey:with specials, if you don't have multiple times shooting it, if it's just one shot, you can, you don't give yourself permission to be playful. Cause this is your only time. I feel like you're doing an outline, but I do think being alive in the frame on stage, they can tell if you're alive, you're still got your act, but there's these little throwaways. You go to someone that all does. So, um, would your husband be willing to watch my standup and just sit me down for a little, he would love to, and he can talk and help you with other things if you want, if you're having trouble with any fights, that was great advice.

46:10Dana Carvey:Yeah. Cause yeah, he's like my little Russian gymnastics coach, but I also think my second special though, obviously like I'm a better standup, but I was just sillier. Like when you're more confident, you're just like, yeah i could do this voice but what if i really did that voice and leaned in and committed to it so i think that's my comedy's just gotten like even looser you just get a little that's the best place place to be where you're just not thinking up there at all and you're just going totally by instinct at moments and hitting things really hard or really trying to entertain yourself a little bit yeah and then it's funny how sometimes when you like go less it's funnier with a voice like if you say it really softly so i've just been having so much fun on tour just playing more and because i i am like an energy comic i'm not like just doing like genius one-liners and being like sit with that slick one like let me figure that one out yeah that's a thinker i'm like carry the one let me know if that is yeah yeah mine aren't all thinkers uh they're stinkers when you have a podcast that does well like dana and i sometimes go out together but dana does fine on his own but sometimes it's fun when we both go out on our own also you know what i mean but we also could go out together so do you do a podcast tour and then you do like a regular tour or something?

47:39Yeah. So I do not do that with a podcast. I did my standup tour for my first special. And then Paige and I went on the road for a Giggly Squad tour, which was bonkers. We did like a PowerPoint, which by the way, PowerPoints are hilarious. I highly recommend, especially if you're forgetful. And when you just go to the next slide, it can hit so hard. Highly recommend. Oh, it just gets a big laugh. Oh, that's funny. It's a little bit of work up front, but yeah, you could do it once you said that's that's great get in there to put some stuff together so is she okay on the road that's a tough oh my god you okay so page it i'm a little sturdier page is a dainty classy angel um she she like it's carried places like i put her on my back like when i'm with her i'm her boyfriend i'm putting her luggage away and she was like so excited about all the outfits and stuff but we were worked like dogs like we would have two shows a night four four in a four in a row four cities and she started like actually having like um panic attacks sure it's fucking tough and we were in denver there was no air and she was like trying to put on a corset and she just like started crying and we were we were like there's 3 000 girls waiting and i was like hey can I talk to you for a second um are you ready and we like had to I basically kicked her onto the stage and I was like the adrenaline will hit get the fuck out there we got her some beta blockers but she was having other stuff going on I think tour if you're stressed about other things tour will just take it to the next level but um we finished tour and she's like I can't wait to do that again so i mean at least you're sitting in one city with the day-to-day flying is also what gets to you like pack go pack get up pack go and your body like i'm not working out i'm not eating healthy and then you look in the mirror and i just tell myself i'm bloated from the flights but it's not that it's not that and we have to wear dresses oh yeah you do oh i have a question for about stand-up yeah when you do a special do you think the female comics are more pressured to really glam up because you look great in your special but thank you we were saying like dame was like joan rivers and phyllis tiller tody fields phyllis tiller yeah there's not rocio

50:12Dana Carvey:donald you know this it's kind of newish like a guy could get away with a hoodie just a hoodie I always say, I love these guys that just dress like school shooters, get on stage. I mean, Shane, love of my life, did MSG with like his hair was just straight up like he just gives a shit. And that's a full arena. Like they can see more adorable. Yeah. And it was adorable. Yeah. I think it does suck that I have to do all this glam where I'm like the boys don't have to do that. but the girls get into it like i did like a custom outfit from this brand fleur de mal it's french and then i had yeah i saw the trailer yeah fake hair more opportunities for that stuff well i hate to say it because i've always been very like i love comedy because just about being funny but then like the better you look the more stuff you're getting and yeah I got a spray tan.

51:13I had full glam. I had a corset. I kept ripping. They're sewing it back. It's all this chaos in addition to being like, and now be fucking hilarious. Yeah. Which I don't love because I'm an athlete. Like I go, when I would go compete, I didn't have to worry about if my hair was in the right position. I'm like, let's just play. tomboy yeah you can be a little bit of tomboy comedian too but i tell i go out with nikki glazer a lot and yes she always looks great we just did caesars this weekend i'm like she looks so good i did have a hoodie on the first night and we were laughing like it's the same exact shit but i'm so adorable that it's it's hard to explain i'll tell you guys i have like a working on material outfit like you know when you're wearing new stuff that's when you come in with the hoodie.

52:01I'm working on some stuff. Don't expect too much. I just woke up. I forgot everything. Here's some notes. I didn't start dressing up really until I started doing theaters and I felt like I was just respectful. Yeah.

52:14Dana Carvey:I have to say the bit that you land in the trailer was enhanced by your look. The twerking bit. Because the outfit was flaring out and the way you were moving. It was really funny. Thank you. I mean, you are a performer, but some guys would look weird if they were in a suit, and that's not their vibe. Mulaney is a suit. Seinfeld is a suit. It works for them. I'm somewhere in the middle. I'm not full hoodie. I rarely wear them, but it was funny. I was thinking, who's doing this? Tim Dillon? Why am I falling apart like this? and i i blame tim i blame shane well i'm like i i try to be like well i'm going to a nice dinner because they pay money there's something weird about that you go well it's like you're all showing up to the same event my girls get dressed up for my like theater shows they oh that's nice it is actually i after covid i kind of stopped because i was it was too intense but i getting getting COVID and I started COVID from my tour.

53:21But a lot of the girls, they really do look like me who come to my show. So it's funny because when I try to go in the back of the stage door, security's like, man, this is the stage door. And I dress in a tie for my tour. I dress in a tie because that's like my outfit for this tour. I can't come up with new outfits. I'm like, this is my uniform. And all the girls show up in ties. So all of us look the same. So security's like you can't come in and i'm like that's me and he's like you look like her maybe like 10 times on tour they've security's been like miss you can't go in there yeah miss that's for the star hey before we jump back into the show let's take a quick break all right not just any break this is a refreshing break with snapple we all know about snapple's iconic real facts so let's take a minute to go over some of my faves.

54:15Dana Carvey:Snapple Real Fact 455. Movie trailers used to come on at the end of the movies, but no one stuck around to watch them. I've heard that. Snapple Real Fact 831. Adults laugh only about 15 to 100 times a day, while preschoolers laugh an average of 300 times a day. Snapple Real Fact 1983. The first player drafted to play pro football never played in the league. That's interesting. Snapple Real Fact 1274. Kickball is referred to as soccer baseball in some parts of Canada. Hmm. So, grab a Snapple. Take a second. Enjoy the moment. Enjoy the moment. Because let's be honest, this might be the most refreshing part of your day.

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56:06Dana Carvey:do you have a nickname for your fans are they called hannahs or is there a funny kind of they're the gigglers they're the gigglers all the gigglers okay yeah all right now where did giggly squad come up do you ever go like this on stage where are my gigglers where are my gigglers at you guys i tell all my openers if there's ever low energy just say gigglers and they'll fucking lose their mind like just and also they're like you see them at the airport and they'll just be like I'm a giggler and walk by it's like a weird Illuminati I'm gonna say it my act to get laughs weird yes it could work it could work our title's too long for that people at the airport I'm a fly on the wall they call them frequent flyers fly on the wall very cute David you know you'll go up there and go where's my flies and it's like one guy.

56:57I don't think I've ever said that.

56:58Dana Carvey:Where's my flies at? Where's my flies? I said no walkouts. I like zzzz. Where's my zoop? Let me hear you zoop. Where's my zoop? I'm going to use that. Where are fans that land and stuff and rub their hands in poop? Yes. I actually was on a flight with Nikki Glazer last night. I'm saying. Shut it. And I said, I'm talking to your man tomorrow. What should I say? Were you the AMAs? Yes. What'd she say? What's the word on the street? We were gossiping. She was like, oh, he's the sweetest. Oh, see? And I was like, whatever. If I had enough time, I would have gotten something out of her. But she's the best.

57:51She's been inspiring me since day one. she like brought me around the cellar back in the day when i was like a baby i was like how do you remember all your jokes and she was answering my questions she's good at she can remember she's like i'm working stuff it literally does not look down at her notes it's she talks so fast yes and i'm like fuck there's a hundred jokes in every minute i go this is your rough thrown together there's shit i'm back there like this she's a follower and it's hard she's too smart yeah good but she just keeps she's a grinder though where are you let's go go ahead no you know

58:29Dana Carvey:well i'm just curious about like you know we all have this 10 year old person inside of us where oh you see you know i used to see robin williams ago i i better get better i gotta be you know i I got to be as good as him. So we have that. But then Nikki's not like she can override it and not try to sabotage you. I don't know if you run into old – She's actually being nice. This woman clearly is no threat. I'm kidding. No, Nikki and I have a very – We have a long back story, Nikki and I, and we love each other a lot. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. Well, if someone has your back – Also, I'm a brunette.

59:11She's a blonde. So that helps with the lack of confidence. No competition. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-oh, Dana. Like, they could put us on a lineup together and it's okay. Yeah.

59:24Dana Carvey:When someone in show business climbs the ladder and you go in the green room, there's just a little bit of energy. Like, oh, she's famous now. You know what I mean? It's just a little bit of a vibe. When I was coming up, Nikki's always been famous to me. Yeah. Like, I - When I met her, I was like, I'm obsessed with you. You're incredible. You're everything. I feel like everyone else was late to catch on. It's just now she's like friends with like Leonardo DiCaprio and stuff. But I feel like when you meet someone before they pop, you always have like a soft spot for each other, even though she's been famous.

59:59But even like with Shane, I'm always like, I know who you are. I know you. I remember you. Oh, yeah. I mean, you guys, fame energy is weird.

1:00:11Dana Carvey:It's weird. It is weird. And you guys deal with famous people nonstop in Hollywood. With friends, like friends who knew you in high school or your family. It starts to tilt things in a way like if someone's making a fuss around you. You know, all that stuff. I mean, it's not first world problems. But you know what I mean. No, just a weird psychology. You go to a sports bar in Arizona and I go, hey, can I sit here? They go, hey, whatever King Tut needs. Clear it away. Well, I'm just getting some potato skins. It's not that big a deal. All hail, Caesar. But it is funny what people literally change after.

1:00:50Like a completely different person. I'm like, oh, you've been through the – it's like they get a transformation emotionally, physically. They carry themselves differently.

1:01:00Dana Carvey:Everything. I think this is how I think of what happens in that process. It's like, oh, I'm funny. oh I'm making money is funny I'm really funny um funny I'm super funny I'm oh wait I'm important oh that's bad that's bad that's why I'm in a nutshell this is what he says in his mirror every morning yeah he has it on a post-it You is good You is important You is good You the man You the shit Yeah You that man Whatever the shit goes to hide You that shit Haters be hated And lovers be lovin' I have another question for Hannah Before we boot her out of here You might do a show with Amy Poehler You two bozos together Weird We're alert.

1:01:58Dana Carvey:I'm getting a, I don't recognize the number. That's Tucson for sure. That's the area code. I'm from Arizona. I know. Well, I think I know it might be, but I'm not going to answer it. Are you sure you don't want to expose them on the pod right now? Who's calling you from rehab? No, I. There's a good one in Tucson. I think there are a lot of rehabs. They're apologizing for something. They're in a step. Oh yeah. They got to say sorry. Yeah. I'm not sure I know. advice for working professionally with amy no amy's lovely i don't know her as well as probably dana but she's what do you mean how do we get to amy i was looking amy poehler is producing her oh amy poehler yeah she's would it be a sitcom would it be a reality show what would it be so it's a scripted comedy right now that we're still trying to crack but like a single camera you don't know yeah yeah because it's probably people know page and i from a reality show so we have to be kind of smart with it where it's not too different but also not too similar because then it's like just do a curbed type thing so we're figuring very hard to do those shows and not saying you couldn't do it i'm saying when people say curb or i've even caught myself going oh i'd like to do something like that at least i even know how fucking hard it is because we were around for larry sanders show which is yes yes and how hard we'd been on it a little bit but we knew shanling and he was like going insane how hard it was yeah but it comes out great yeah but it looks so easy and effortless oh they just fucking had a little banter i could do that and it's yeah i know it's hard it's sometimes it's this you know with larry david it's it feels like you know like a stand-up observation just about awkwardness or the puffy pants or whatever it was you know just those little observations and then he just the main thing he said to us is no the only rule on the set is no one tries to be funny no one thinks they're being funny that's that was the way no no one was performative they started trying to be funny it just had to be thrown away or auditions when people be funny they go that's enough get out of here because the hyperbolic you know they like throwaways they like i know every read they're like we want this grounded.

1:04:11Yeah. Oh, is that the code word? 10 times they go, forget out of here. Like, you don't know what that means. But that's why I guess the show's fun because you're watching comedians in their like day to day. Being very small. Yeah, like what it's like if they were just ordering coffee, how they'd act. And that's fascinating, actually. But a lot of these comics can't turn off.

1:04:32Dana Carvey:Yeah, true. Well, I don't know how you two are together, but also another thing is sometimes on Larry David, they didn't, weren't sure they were doing a take, you know, the cameras, they got both cameras on and they're kind of kidding. They don't even, you can see they're sort of breaking, but is the character breaking or is they breaking? So I don't, you know, there's also, it's capturing that, that, and it's just, this is my first, I'm like getting into acting for the first time. And I've never, I've had like a couple of things, but I'm just going to see if I enjoy it. I think I like it. Do you guys like acting as opposed to stand up?

1:05:08Dana Carvey:Well, there's two kinds of acting. There's acting where some asshole director is controlling you and you sign up for a script you don't truly believe in, or you're one of the executive producers and your boss is Amy Poehler. He's really smart and knows it. So it'll probably be a blast if everyone's on the same sensibility vibe and you know that you're getting what you want so yeah i think you're already 90 there you know like you know you have instincts from doing stand-up and you know what works and what doesn't and then you're on a reality show you just know things that not everyone knows and and then just figure out whatever you guys think don't don't say is you have a tiny wispy joker one time in grown-ups oh my god a few people remember and um we were doing i remember iconic and we had to do one thing where adam goes come out of the closet and of course he does and he goes what would you have on you or something we're like how about some arrows from arrow roulette let's say with some leaves on them and he's like yeah okay hey let's get some arrows and the props guy goes we don't have him but he goes you don't have him in the truck or whatever it was and he goes no and he goes where do we get him and he goes well we'd have to we're in gloucester have to drive to boston it's like an hour he goes okay and you're like so the guy took off and so here's gonna be minimum two hours we're gonna be down but you got low blood sugar but jokes are so important in movies that you go if this is a wispy joke but this isn't even a chance we have to take it because when you're in a screening watching it you are dying going where's another joke where's another joke they're starting to get bored yeah so so it's it's funny to see all the lights and all this you're like hey what if we tried this they go oh we'd have to reset the camera and someone like adam goes yeah do it it's too important if this throwaway look we didn't have before we need it and then you don't know what that little thing is right you don't know what the funniest part of that scene will be and you go the cutaway was the funniest part or you get the arrows and everyone's like actually no right i mean he would yeah but there's another store two hours away that has marbles we did oh we wanted the other arrows yeah what come oh you say water let me go back look i never had this experience but if you are in a situation where it's found moments i mean like they would put the camera adam mckay and will ferrell they had the scene they had the bullet things they needed or any physical comedy and then it's just like what your husband said to you about being on stage so don't act don't try to act just when the camera's rolling you get to be very playful and hopefully it'll become clear like okay that's the one because there's a magic to you in your eyes doing it for the first time discovering you do have to do paint numbers you have to let's go over there there is dialogue you have to have but in those moments if you know right in that moment you're actually just thinking this and then it comes out that's where the magic is or you get someone with a different line they were ready for hard to replicate something different and you don't tell them and then they react whatever they would react and then you go okay let's move on but you go well we have it and in editing they're gonna go it was better the way it was or now and then they go that one was better have you thought of everything we just said to you i'm literally i'm taking notes this is so no it's nice to hear you guys being like you're you can do that because like i could just see myself trying to make page laughed off script i mean amy's gonna to be like can you not do that every line but that's so fun and that's what comedy is about yeah it's all about just this and you can tell it when you watch a show you don't want to get too locked in i'd say have fun and don't try to ever act her job will be get people around you that are good everyone from the editors are very important to keep on the set the director so i have a lot of faith in it well amy poehler has been she's great in film she's great at sketch i mean so lean on amy yes it's gonna be a real teaching moment it's something to do it's great i think it sounds like a blast you got a superstar podcast you're doing this show i mean i don't i don't see any chinks in the alma to be honest and i've got your giggly zombies in the airport well you guys are gigglers now yeah after we are what's your net worth right now network I have a bunch of Metro cards Okay I'm doing math in my head And they're worth a lot because they don't use Metro cards anymore No they just hop What people say is I got a few beans in my jeans I got a couple beans in my jeans That's all you say Hey you look like a fucking clown I'm doing an impression of your dad You look like a fucking clown I love you but you're going to the fucking circus What are you doing with this on your fucking lipstick?

1:09:53I can't wait to call my dad and tell him Dana Carvey has a whole voice for him.

1:09:57Dana Carvey:What's his name? Dan. Hey, you can call me Dan. You can call me Stan. I don't give a fuck, but get that fucking lipstick. Oh, go Knicks. Knicks in four. Knicks in four, baby. Hey, Knicks. Knicks are, this is their best season in 27 years. Let me get gasoline so I can burn the city down when they win. Yeah, well, hey, will my Knicks win? I win. If they lose, fuck them. 9-11 was nothing. Is that what he said? Why isn't 9-11 ready for it? We don't have to look into the joke. I know. It doesn't make sense, but I like it. Fucking 9-11. I'm from New York. I could say 9-11. I was there. I say you can't.

1:10:42I can't. Hannah, Hulu special. Hulu. That's right. Hulu. June 5th. Also, none of my business. None of my business. June 5th. You guys are the best. Thank you so much for promoting me. And have a meal.

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