Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)

12 Mar 2026 · 1 h 8 min · 30 chapters

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Podcast Summary: Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

Episode Title

Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)

Episode Overview In this episode, hosts Dana Carvey and David Spade welcome actress, writer, director, and voice artist Lake Bell. The conversation spans a variety of topics including the origins of Bell's name, her experiences in voice acting, insights into the entertainment industry and award shows, and her latest HBO series, *The Chair Company*.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Lake Bell's Name
  2. Bell discusses the unique and memorable nature of her name, reflecting on how it stood out in the entertainment industry.
  3. She humorously shares childhood anecdotes about people's reactions to her name and how it shaped her identity.
  1. Voice Acting
  2. Lake Bell and Dana Carvey talk about their collaboration on *The Secret Life of Pets* and the unique challenges of voice acting.
  3. Bell highlights the isolation of voice work, often recording separately from co-stars and how it affects the chemistry perceived by audiences.
  1. Insights on Award Shows
  2. The trio shares experiences attending award shows and the behind-the-scenes dynamics at after-parties.
  3. Bell describes the pressure and pomp associated with red carpet events and the extensive preparation required for appearances.
  1. *The Chair Company*
  2. Bell talks about her new HBO series, mentioning the show's unexpected twists and offbeat humor.
  3. The conversation highlights the unique production style of the show and its comparisons to past comedic works, emphasizing its unpredictability and creativity.

Key Takeaways

  • Unique Names in Showbiz: Lake Bell's distinctive name is a conversation starter and a valuable asset in her career, illustrating how memorable branding can be impactful in the entertainment industry.
  • Voice Acting Challenges: The experience of voice actors often involves working in isolation, creating an interesting dynamic where the chemistry between characters may not be as immediate as in live-action performances.
  • Navigating the Industry: The hosts reflect on the emotional toll of waiting for job offers in entertainment and the importance of creating one's own opportunities through writing and directing.
  • Award Show Realities: The glamour of award shows comes with a lot of pressure and effort, and Bell emphasizes the absurdity of the industry's expectations during such events.
  • Creative Process in Comedy: *The Chair Company* is celebrated for its innovative comedic approach, using a blend of scripted and improvisational techniques that lead to unexpected humor.

Additional Highlights

  • Lake's Multifaceted Career: Bell's versatility as a mother, writer, director, and actress is acknowledged, showcasing her ability to thrive in various roles within the industry.
  • Personal Anecdotes: The conversation is peppered with humorous personal stories and light-hearted banter that showcases the chemistry among the hosts and guest.

Conclusion The episode concludes with Bell expressing gratitude for being able to balance multiple facets of her career while staying grounded in her personal life. The hosts emphasize the importance of enjoying the creative process and adapting to the unpredictable nature of the entertainment industry.

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Chapters

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Introducing Lake Bell

1:34 to 2:18

Dana and David introduce Lake Bell and her career highlights.

“I always would retort with that when people threw me a titty caca or an eerie.”

Lake Bell's Unique Career Path

2:18 to 3:25

Lake Bell discusses her approach to acting, directing, and producing.

Creative Process and Challenges

3:25 to 4:52

Exploring the challenges in the show business and creative process.

“anyway here she is lovely person Lake Bell Bell rang soon is that her?”

The Importance of Laughter

4:52 to 6:06

Lake and the hosts discuss the significance of laughter in comedy.

“Oh, you didn't even, were you not aware of six, seven?”

Lake's Unique Name and Its Impact

6:06 to 7:25

Lake talks about her name and the reactions it elicits.

“am I missing anything I mean I'm a mother which is my oh well like as a director is this too wide on me I feel like it's showing too much of my whole body.”

Life Lessons from Lake

7:25 to 8:20

Discussing the life lessons and experiences that shaped Lake.

“If it has ETT on the end, that means it's not.”

Lakes and Their Importance

14:00 to 14:30

Discussing the significance of various lakes and personal anecdotes about names.

“Yeah, yeah, and then there's Lake Superior.”

Voiceover Work and Collaboration

19:16 to 21:41

Exploring experiences in voiceover work and the challenges of collaboration.

Improvisation in Animated Projects

21:41 to 24:18

Discussing the improvisational aspect of voice acting in animated movies.

Preparing for Award Shows

24:18 to 28:00

Sharing experiences and challenges of preparing for award shows.

“It feels like they could kind of fly away.”
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The Art of Showing Up Early

28:00 to 29:00

Discussing the challenges and strategies of arriving early to events.

Fashion Choices and Personal Style

29:00 to 30:18

Exploring the pressures of fashion and personal expression at high-profile events.

“Is there anything you save on the - There's no saving.”

Facing the Red Carpet

30:18 to 32:16

Sharing experiences of walking the red carpet and dealing with public attention.

“But the last time I was at the Oscars, whoops.”

Perspective Through Parenting

32:16 to 34:34

How parenting challenges shape perspective on stress and priorities in life.

“I think that the context of that has always, you know.”

Nostalgia in Entertainment

34:34 to 36:50

Discussing the impact of nostalgia and traditional media on younger generations.

“It's hard to watch kids get so much anxiety also because you go, God, this is your worst thing and it's really nothing in the big picture.”

Unique Comedy and Creative Process

37:12 to 42:00

Exploring the creative process behind a new unique comedy show and its unexpected elements.

“And it's been picked up for season two, I heard.”

The Art of On-Set Discovery in Directing

42:00 to 43:36

Learn how spontaneity in directing can enhance comedic performances.

“And long pauses and weird things where normally they go, can you just tighten that up?”

Understanding the Work Behind a Scene

43:36 to 45:42

Explore the intricate details that go into creating even the smallest scene.

“Ooh, that performance, like I can tell the way that act, the way that director just spoke to this actor really got that great performance or actually botched it.”

The Importance of Improvisation in Film

45:42 to 47:29

Discover how improvisation can impact the dynamics of a film scene.

“This is a scene that will be probably five seconds.”

Balancing Humor and Production Quality

47:29 to 49:58

Understand the relationship between humor, budget, and storytelling in media.

“There's a lot of two shots moving in and out.”

Creating Memorable Moments in Comedy

49:58 to 52:26

Learn how unique casting choices can elevate comedic sequences.

“I mean, sometimes they would spend on a big drama, right?”

The Evolution of Jury Duty into Company Retreat

52:26 to 55:57

Explore how 'Jury Duty' evolves into a comedic take on corporate retreats.

“It was set in the courtroom the first time.”

SNL Behind the Scenes

57:34 to 59:55

Insights into SNL's dynamics and personal experiences from performances.

“Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter?”

Awards Season Reflections

59:55 to 1:02:12

Discussing the pressures and experiences of awards season in showbiz.

“And they're up there dancing for their donuts.”

The Importance of Voice

1:02:12 to 1:05:00

Exploring how voices shape identities and perceptions in show business.

“You're not an actress waiting for the phone.”

Impersonations and Accents

1:05:00 to 1:07:26

A deep dive into the art of impersonation and using accents in performance.

“working on billy bob thornton in in his landman character you know i don't i didn't see that so I can't.”

Navigating Showbiz Social Interactions

1:07:26 to 1:10:00

Discussing the nuances of social interactions in the entertainment industry.

The Power of Language: 'Like' vs. 'Lake'

1:10:00 to 1:10:34

Exploring the nuances of the word 'like' and its cultural implications.

The HBO Chair Company and Jim Downey

1:10:34 to 1:11:31

Dana and David discuss their experiences with HBO and the brilliance of Jim Downey.

Quirky Names and Everyday Life

1:11:31 to 1:13:50

A humorous take on mispronouncing names and the quirks of daily interactions.

“If you run into Downey, just go, what was it like to be a regular infantryman in George Washington's army in the latter part of the war?”
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1:33David Spade:Then there's Lake Superior. I always would retort with that when people threw me a titty caca or an eerie. Tell us a little bit what it was like to work with Dana Carvey. You're being f***ed by a thorn, you know, and you're like okay you know and you're just like what okay i'll i'll i'll add some spice to that give us a couple different versions of that so lake bell the lovely and talented lake bell

2:00Lake Bell:who uh lake bell starring right now in the chair company with tim robinson which is just an absurd

2:09Dana Carvey:funny brilliantly off kilter abstract right up my alley right up my alley yeah and uh yeah we we talk about her name i mean it it is her name it is kind of the coolest name you could have in show business when it's not made up lake bell you definitely need a hooky name that is a great

2:27Lake Bell:short yeah just four letters four letters there's just something it's like a movie jury duty you know just get like boom boom and it helps uh she's also been in it's complicated she's in so many movies she's sort of woven in where you just go oh right she was in that one she was no strings attached there's old movies new movies um tv shows and the anime director oh she was in

2:52Dana Carvey:secret life pets with moi and uh we talk all about that and she's uh what's interesting about her I think is um she's got a whole lane of getting hired to do things and then she's just producing and or directing constantly and that's uh by design and very smart then you can kind of show business is less emotionally violent when you just like doing your own work at the same time yeah any

3:21Lake Bell:any time it's just waiting for the phone to ring is tough that's the hardest part about show business anyway here she is lovely person Lake Bell

3:31Dana Carvey:Bell rang soon

3:32Lake Bell:is that her?

3:34David Spade:yeah it's her

3:35Lake Bell:I don't have any idea what she looks like is that her?

3:38David Spade:oh my god she looks

3:43Lake Bell:gorgeous

3:44David Spade:and I do what I can I can't believe this I'm just so glad that this is working I am too

3:54Dana Carvey:It's amazing. I know.

3:58David Spade:As soon as I heard. Here, let me put this here.

4:01Lake Bell:I feel like there might be a compliment coming, so keep going.

4:05Dana Carvey:Oh.

4:06David Spade:Wait, is this?

4:09Dana Carvey:Do I need to have these on? Yes. Engineer. I think so.

4:16Lake Bell:I know that you hate it. Everyone hates it, but I think it helps.

4:19David Spade:It doesn't look cute.

4:21Lake Bell:We had this hockey player on, and he didn't have them. and we couldn't talk over them because everything stopped. We have to wait for someone to talk to them, which you should do.

4:31Dana Carvey:The hockey player's name was Wayne Gretzky. All right. I didn't even say that. I'm not trying to flex. I don't want to get handsy. I don't want to have these phrases exist. The latest one is slop. I hear it a lot. And it's slop. Slop means just massive content that is just slop. It's just people love to watch slop.

4:56David Spade:You know, six, seven is done. Did you hear about that?

4:59Dana Carvey:Who's done?

5:00David Spade:What is six, seven? No, no, you know it's done. Oh, you didn't even, were you not aware of six, seven?

5:06Lake Bell:I was, but I'm glad it's over.

5:07Dana Carvey:I heard the two numbers, but what was it about again?

5:11Lake Bell:She's heard of the two numbers. I heard the two.

5:14Dana Carvey:She's heard of six and seven. No, I remember something like six, seven was a code or something. What was it?

5:20David Spade:It was like a meme or something, and then somebody said it at a kind of sporting event of some sort, because I also asked a question to my children, and I have teeny tiny children that are right in the 6-7.

5:33Lake Bell:Do they know about it?

5:35David Spade:I hear about it all the damn time. It was a hot Christmas gift was a t-shirt that said 6-7.

5:42Lake Bell:Oh, no, no, no. But apparently the adult. Thank God it's over. It's over, right?

5:48David Spade:It's over.

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5:49Lake Bell:Okay. I have oh I was going to say like because you're also a director

5:54Dana Carvey:do you feel like she's an author people who don't know Lake Bell because I did kind of look you up a little bit you know preparation author writer director actor and voice actor yeah am I missing anything

6:09David Spade:I mean I'm a mother which is my

6:12Dana Carvey:oh

6:12Lake Bell:well like as a director is this too wide on me I feel like it's showing too much of my whole body.

6:20David Spade:I do feel that we're getting a lot of the wires in the backdrop. You could punch in. Oh, that's true. I'd like to do on an 85. You mean over here? Yeah.

6:31Lake Bell:I've never seen those in my life and you saw them in one second.

6:34Dana Carvey:Let's come around, if we can, for a two-shot and then just pan in the lake. Yeah, let's just cross cover. Can we cross cover? So what's your happiest place in your creative world? Is it when you're writing your book?

6:47David Spade:I guess we're doing it.

6:49Dana Carvey:We'll start and not start. We don't really know what we're doing yet, but is that kitchen real or is it like a backdrop?

7:00David Spade:I'm in my office and it has a kitchenette.

7:03Dana Carvey:So there's a place.

7:05David Spade:Somebody invested well.

7:07Lake Bell:The rich get richer.

7:09Dana Carvey:Whoops. I've never seen anything like this.

7:13Lake Bell:Who lives there? Bezos?

7:15Dana Carvey:Okay. Okay. Well, his muscles live in the other room and he lives in that.

7:20David Spade:Guys, come on now. I, the kitchenette is great for making.

7:25Lake Bell:If it has ETT on the end, that means it's not.

7:28Dana Carvey:Kitchenette makes me happy. The word makes me happy. If you're checking in kind of a B level motel and there's a kitchenette, it just seems relaxing.

7:37David Spade:I feel, I feel very relaxed and welcome. If there's a kitchenette, if you're in a guest room,

7:43Dana Carvey:has got a kitchenette you're like i've made it because yeah it really gives you that access point

7:49David Spade:to you know the world is your oyster you could make a you could make a tea you could microwave

7:55Lake Bell:a piece of toast yes if i'm on the road i go for residence in kitchenette and then you don't really leave as much because you go i can kind of handle shit yeah right here and you don't have it have

8:08Dana Carvey:you ever made an omelet in the kitchenette and just thought to yourself about the main these are about the main kitchen as you're flipping the element you know what

8:17David Spade:fuck the main kitchen you know what's fun about that is that's where all the like funky mugs go so i've got like a very i love mug and i like a funky mug like you know a don't mess with texas or like you know you go to like i have a mug a dentist gave me a mug once with like a big smile with braces on it. Like, what a mug, you know? And it's like, I like a good, like, you know, it's like you travel somewhere and you get a mug. And I, so all of the good funky mugs live in the kitchenette. The main kitchen, she's curated. She's got a real point of view. There's a visual. Right. And that is where the funk.

9:01Lake Bell:And you also don't want to mess up the main kitchen. So it's good to come do some dirty work in here.

9:06Dana Carvey:sorry i just want to make a quick note right rap song called funky mug okay yeah okay well mugs i

9:14Lake Bell:have a great old you know my best mug is of all my goofy ones larry sanders it's all faded oh i mean why we got that must have been like a gif yeah i don't know i love it because mark

9:25David Spade:maron he he gives a mug i'm just saying you guys smart we don't give jack shit i i was on his show

9:30Dana Carvey:Oh, I don't remember getting a mug.

9:32Lake Bell:Oh, they just have special people.

9:34David Spade:No, no, no.

9:35Lake Bell:They definitely got a mug.

9:37David Spade:You have a bone to pick then because those mugs are excellent. And I do ceramics. So, like, I've got mugs. I've got mugs. You do ceramics on top of everything else?

9:47Dana Carvey:You do ceramics, too, and you write your automotive thing? I can't. Your resume made me tired. What are you doing? What? Do you take a nap every day? I do like to nap, actually.

9:58Lake Bell:Oh, listen to this, like, Bill. that's uh when i was going through your uh extenuous resume is that a word and um it is now golden arm and guess who well we don't name drop on the show john ham hit me out of the blue and i go john i'm looking at your goddamn name on this stupid imdb and he was so effusively

10:21David Spade:positive about you i isn't that nice yeah yeah he's he's great i think that is nice that makes me feel good i do think i'm generally like nice yeah as a person i mean would you you're i've

10:39Lake Bell:seen you out and about and you're always very friendly and very light and i think i like the

10:44Dana Carvey:word agreeable how is this person they're they're agreeable you know they're they're easy yeah yeah

10:51Lake Bell:i would say that i would say i would say she's a laugher i think if i remember you like yeah

10:56David Spade:I will give a good laugh. I feel like that is a quality that, especially within comedy, it's nice to have people around who also will give it, give a laugh. Right?

11:12Lake Bell:Yes. Yeah, because if you're stiff and sometimes you just want to be the funny one, it's always nice when other funny people laugh.

11:20David Spade:Yeah, because when you're standing in a group of comedy people and everyone's each other and they're being really fun and they've got a little they've got a little um little turned up side grin because they're thinking i'm gonna say the next funny thing in my head oh i'm listening to what he said okay i'm gonna and everyone's thinking what am i gonna say next you know and it can be kind of like sweaty i don't know you know i don't like group

11:54Dana Carvey:shows. I do some dates with David. I don't know. It's 19 comics in a green room. What could go wrong? You know, it's like a comedy competition. And I don't like it. The guy who the man or woman on this podcast who laughed the hardest is kind of interesting. It was Larry David.

12:14David Spade:I think I heard that episode. Yes, I was hearing that he was a great laugher. And I thought, I love Larry even more for that.

12:22Dana Carvey:I know. He's so brilliant. And then he's sort of like he curled up a little ball and he was red face and he fell out of his chair. It's very interesting. But our guest today is Lake Bell. Has any ever met another Lake person first name?

12:40David Spade:Yeah. So it's interesting because when I was growing up, it was so bizarre. I mean, people were like, the amount.

12:47Lake Bell:They can't get their head around it.

12:48David Spade:They could not. They were like, this is not okay with me. Whoa. What? You know, and I had a story I would tell people that my, you know, my parents were hippies and I was conceived on a lake and they thought, oh, let's do it. And that was not at all the truth. I'm from Manhattan. My dad's like a Jew who eats about the fish. And my mom was like, you know, kind of read War and Peace while working at Sotheby's and was a model.

13:17Lake Bell:you know it's like the bees yeah lake is a cool one but you have cool names for your kids it's

13:24Dana Carvey:like a movie star name and you know i mean it's it's very memorable it's really tight and the word the big l and the big b yeah it just it has a lot going on four letters four letters yeah four

13:37David Spade:letters four letters two nouns and and then i think i saw it on a lot of like um signage when i was a kid i always wanted to be an actor but i was like oh it's already up there so fucking and we're halfway there.

13:48Lake Bell:It works. It works up there in the big time.

13:50David Spade:Yeah. Lake Titicaca, Lake, you know, that was -

13:53Dana Carvey:Now we're talking.

13:55David Spade:Lake Balls of Plenty.

13:56Dana Carvey:Remember that one in Winnipeg?

13:58David Spade:Oh, God, really? I don't know.

13:59Dana Carvey:Winnipeg. I just went off Titicaca. You're right.

14:02David Spade:Yeah, yeah, and then there's Lake Superior. I always would retort with that when people threw me a Titicaca or an Erie.

14:10Lake Bell:Yeah. The Edmund Fitzgerald took place on a lake, I think.

14:14David Spade:yeah i mean listen lakes are of great import they're much more robust than a pond no one's name puddle is and they're rare in the western u.s you were called puddle yeah my stepfather used to call me puddle because he's like one day maybe it'll grow into a lake oh that's cute that's cute dana it's time for a little five-hour energy action

14:38Lake Bell:yes you know I like correct I dabble in five-hour energy to do a little wakey wakey I don't mind a little energy in the day and I don't want sugar yeah and this is a little sippy sip fits right in your sock if you need it to when you've seen them they're this big yeah

14:59Dana Carvey:absolutely that's what's great about them confetti craze is one of their new flavors yeah It tastes like birthday cake. I mean, that's the thing that they're doing now is all kinds of flavors with five-hour energy so you can pick your favorite, vanillary and buttery flavors. It doesn't need to be your birthday.

15:18Lake Bell:Because, Dana, when we're out, you're always telling the restaurant your birthday to get something free.

15:24Dana Carvey:Right. Yeah, and it's my anniversary again. Oh, yeah.

15:29Lake Bell:You were milking that one last week. You're like, it's that again this week. Yeah.

15:33Dana Carvey:uh but 17 flavors when you're out you always take off your sweater and then you go it's kind of cold

15:39Lake Bell:in here could i get a down vest i go it's kind of cold can i get a free meal i'm freezing yeah i

15:45Dana Carvey:mean it's sort of weird you're you're kind of you have some picadillos yeah but confetti craze is

15:51Lake Bell:great uh it's a little buttery it's a little vanilla it's like you know like birthday cake Yeah.

15:58Dana Carvey:And now basically they're giving you caffeine now, five hour energy shots. And get this, sounds like a lot to me, 17 flavors. 17.

16:10Lake Bell:It's not too many. It's a lot, but at least it gives a big selection and you don't get a sugar crash. You just get a little.

16:24Lake Bell:so i'm excited they're on you can get these at you know obviously fivehourenergy.com you can go to amazon uh they're stocking up i'm stocking up i have to load up because i kind of buzzed through them pretty quickly cake on the brain confetti craze it's back uh you can go fivehourenergy.com amazon

16:46Dana Carvey:The Funfetti flavor is back on 5hourenergy.com or Amazon. Crack open confetti craze 5-hour energy shot today. If you're like this and you got to be like this, it's 5-hour energy.

17:02Lake Bell:Yeah.

17:03Dana Carvey:Take that to the bank. Take it.

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19:15Dana Carvey:should we talk about secret life of pets and what happened i mean for a second we just we worked on

19:21David Spade:something together yes it was i mean were you together no we never recorded together

19:31Lake Bell:this really blows it for people i think people want to know that all the minions are friends and i think they want to know that all the people hang out because i did some and we did them in different days and i was like oh no i kind of wanted to be together yeah there's no there's

19:45David Spade:no it's it's a lonely job in a way but then you get thrown together in promotion so you're recording these huge like even tv tv shows or movies where there are these animated like larger than life characters and oh my god their the rapport must have been terrific ask you on the junket they say

20:05Lake Bell:you know was it so fun working together you guys have a blast the chemistry that's a perfect junket

20:12David Spade:voice what you just did a little bit what it was like to work with dana carvey

20:17Lake Bell:dana must be non-stop laughing like well his booth was two doors down in four months after i don't know i know one time on on hotel transylvania we did it oh a couple people remember i heard some applause um but we we did it all in the same room and no you didn't they quickly found out it was a horrible idea we were doing like scenes and we're all talking it was kevin james and adam and we're like blah blah blah blah and we're just going through like scene after scene and then we go we'll do some pickups and we did everything again by ourselves well by the way then

20:53David Spade:it goes back to the like green room a bunch of comedians in a green room you know you wouldn't want to record an animated you know show us that way because everyone's thing they're going

21:04Dana Carvey:we're so funny did you understand david because when i was in the two i wasn't quite sure what my character was doing yeah i didn't connect it to any i would i didn't even understand i just knew that was the line and they directed me but i you get kind of lost like you just came out of a cave

21:24Lake Bell:and you're all wet yeah that's what that's what it's like and then when we did that one uh emperor's new groove it went three years i did it and so at the end i'm like i don't even know what's going they go you can ad lib i go i don't know what the scene is i don't we're like you're falling down yell scream i like when they go right before you leave let's get some ooze and oz that's the best

21:46David Spade:someone stepped on your tail the industry term is you ready you remember they're like let's get some

21:52Dana Carvey:efforts oh yes when you're falling down a hole this is just for people i i've probably been spoke about before but it's an interesting thing about doing voiceover work you're behind a glass you're in a booth you're seeing like 10 people in front of you and they're straight faced and very serious and you go all out with your take and there's a delay so you're still looking at an oil painting and then they then you see them like they're laughing from france just you can't hear them like this silent laughing and and thumbs

22:31Lake Bell:and you like that one they go one more yeah it's so awkward i mean i do i do uh poison ivy on harley

22:40David Spade:quinn for dc it's like that's right yeah and they that is all kind of improv is oh look at him he read um the resume oh notes um oh yeah we got if necessary i didn't think we'd need him much with

22:55Dana Carvey:you and it's working out beautifully so tell me about your that character on harley well i just

23:00David Spade:was gonna say like in there they really like the improvisational vibes yeah and of course you're alone so you're sometimes i have the director read with me just so that i can i don't know you know it's like you don't know how to improvise with nothing even though i've gotten really good at it where you just are like i don't know can you give me an idea of where we are and they're like okay so you're in gotham and it's kind of like yeah it's sunny kind of like a brothel but like they're all made of plants and like you're being fucked by a thorn you know and you're like okay you know and you're just like what okay i'll i'll i'll i'll add some spice to that give us a couple different versions of that yeah that's great it's look at your sleeves though what's

23:51Dana Carvey:going on yeah so we've got it's a bit of uh like don't worry about it it's like plymouth rock i

23:56Lake Bell:mean sort of uh it's called fashion and i'm not it's kind of a pilgrim village that's trying to

24:02Dana Carvey:make friends with native american look it works what color is it if you had to guess what color

24:12David Spade:yeah well i think it's dark green it's actually dark it's navy with black which is my favorite

24:18Lake Bell:combo god more proof i'm colorblind everyone's name with black is your favorite color yeah

24:25Dana Carvey:i love attention don't hate my jean jacket i i like what you got going on here it's hard doing this right we're all looking at ourselves we're looking at our guests i don't

24:36David Spade:like it i'm gonna just how do i don't go off my it's impossible not to i think on zoom i know how to just go and then i get rid of my face and then the problem is we're all actors we're all looking at our set like what do i look at my face do i'm only looking at me the whole time i know i see you

24:54Dana Carvey:i don't even know what like spade has never looked at me or you i don't even know what dana looks like in real life he's not sure who our guest is today you've got a hair light

25:06David Spade:you've got a back light that's yes this is a new thing like that you should incorporate into your

25:12Lake Bell:movies you direct because this was a happy accident i like it it was a light behind me because it was so black behind me yeah and then it kind of glows up the hair so i said hey yeah

25:22David Spade:they do that a lot with the ladies they do yeah hair light they call it but that you do that so it's just like a little crest of like it's not bad yeah it's pretty it's it's quite elegant

25:34Lake Bell:there's mine poured on a little hard back there but i don't know maybe it could go it's a it's a

25:39David Spade:It's a little celestial. It's a little angelic, but I like it.

25:45Dana Carvey:It feels like they could kind of fly away. I mean, there's a sense that. Some of these, these are like.

25:53David Spade:It's very French. I think it's very French.

25:55Lake Bell:Right. It's a one-way street. Once they jump out, they're not coming back.

25:58David Spade:Yeah.

25:59Lake Bell:Can you go in? These heirs. I've got a bit of a mully going on.

26:04Dana Carvey:Do you have a team if you go to an award show or something? Yeah. Do you have a team? Talk about it.

26:09David Spade:Oh.

26:10Dana Carvey:Do you have a good team?

26:11David Spade:Oh, honeys, girls. Girls. Girlfriends. Oh, please. You have no idea what kind of team I have. One of the greatest teams. No, I do. That's good hair, though.

26:23Lake Bell:You have to.

26:24David Spade:I did my hair today. I'll be honest. For you gentlemen.

26:28Dana Carvey:It's great.

26:29David Spade:Thank you. But no, I do. I do a team. But I have to be honest with you. When someone goes, hey, for instance, Golden Globes are coming out. Yeah. Oh, you know, you're going to go to the thing on Friday or whatever. You know, and I the amount of of just pomp and circumstance that I need to go go through just to get to the frickin party. I'm like, I don't even know if I can afford to go to that party because that's hair and makeup styling car, you know, because you can't just you gentlemen can throw on a cute.

27:04Lake Bell:Sometimes you're like, who do I bring? Is it myself?

27:07David Spade:myself yes i go alone a lot i actually go alone i kind of been enjoying rolling up because you run

27:14Lake Bell:around so much usually just go to someone for base you're like both talking to people you come back say hi hey what's going on bubble and then you go oh yeah but if you don't it feels weird

27:24Dana Carvey:sometimes to be constantly in motion yeah hey hey hey leg bill nice to see you what's up you have 10 seconds to make a connection. Hey, Lake Bell, how you doing, man?

27:37Lake Bell:Everyone calls her Lake Bell.

27:38Dana Carvey:Hey, it's Ms. Bell. How are you? I have three seconds. What's up?

27:44David Spade:Let's have a profound moment. I mean, I recently went to a thing at like the Chateau or something, and I saw a fellow person who was going through innings. I have an early problem, so I get places way too early.

27:57Lake Bell:Good.

27:57David Spade:Like I was early for this podcast. and yeah and i have um an ex-boyfriend who actually told me that you know um who was like you're too hot to show up this early like you have to be very late you have to like yeah it's not okay and i thought that was very sweet but um that is true but i do like people that just

28:19Lake Bell:get things going because it's so hard to be cool and wait it's so hard i don't guys i'm just it's

28:26David Spade:like i i don't know what it is i don't know if it's like because i don't have adhd because my daughter does and my son does but i just can't i get there way too early because i'm nervous i'm going to be late so it's probably people pleasing i guess i don't know um it could be tactical like

28:40Dana Carvey:i like to get there early so that i can leave early and go hey hey that's true you know what

28:48Lake Bell:yes well you can kind of see people come in and it's not as overwhelming as walking to a packed place it's bumper to bumper and you're like i can't even yes you know what i can't get this but i will say i like this this golden globes thing because first of all if you go to a party for let's say it's the golden globes now a party is almost as bad as an effort as a look for going to the golden globes it's pretty much around the same budget around the same everything and now if You go to a party, you have to think, am I going to go to a party Friday, a party Saturday, and Sunday after the show? So three looks for a female, right?

29:27David Spade:Whoa.

29:28Lake Bell:Do you do your hair three times?

29:30David Spade:Yes.

29:31Lake Bell:Is there anything you save on the -

29:32David Spade:There's no saving. Okay. The only thing I would say is that I style myself right now. So that has been kind of groovy because it's like an art form, right? Yeah. Like I'm a visual person. I enjoy this shit. So like, I'll give it a go. And so I buy the only, the only, the only thing I, I splurge on is like, I, you know, I get shit that's, um, secondhand. So I like buying consignment and vintage. I just, it's like fun. It's like finding in a, you know, it's like, I watched those guys with the metal detectors who like look in dirt and find things like I, I can watch those.

30:13Lake Bell:Find your dress.

30:14David Spade:Yeah. So that's similar. It's scratching a similar pitch. Inside baseball.

30:20Dana Carvey:But I don't go to a lot of war shows. But the last time I was at the Oscars, whoops. You walk out in the red carpet, just for people listening, and then you stand there and then there's a wall of people screaming. I mean, they're waiting for Timothee Chalamet or Jodie Foster or something. And there's this wall of people screaming at you. do you pivot and kind of smile and they're going, Lake, Lake, Lake, screaming, like just a horde. And you pivot. Do you have a face that you put on? Can we see it? I do this. Okay, good. Okay, here it is. Lake, Lake Bell, here, here, here.

30:59Lake Bell:I like this pleated pants outfit. Here, over here, over here.

31:04David Spade:You're not supposed to see this part.

31:05Lake Bell:Are those purple? I'm not even going to guess.

31:07David Spade:No, no, they're another shade of blue.

31:11Dana Carvey:You know what's cool about you is that you're not sweaty. You don't seem to try. You don't seem to care about being a star. I mean, you're one of those celebrities that just sort of, there's a coolness factor to that. You're not needy, are you? Thirsty, not thirsty.

31:28David Spade:I think I'm like a working actor. Like I feel like, you know what I mean? I go on the subway. Like I go to the grocery store, but I don't feel -

31:36Dana Carvey:That's how I see you. And also you write and direct and do all the other things. But a lot of people live or die by their heat as a celebrity. It's like a really huge deal. You don't seem to – it doesn't bother you.

31:49David Spade:It doesn't. And also, I have two little kids, right? Yeah. So, a mom. And to boot, I have kids that have had some heavy shit happen.

32:01Dana Carvey:We know about your book. And I thought it was – I read some of the quotes and they teared me up. It's like the way you couched seizures was so beautiful. I mean, you're a great writer.

32:15David Spade:Thank you. I think that the context of that has always, you know.

32:21Dana Carvey:Yeah.

32:22David Spade:I've had kids now for 10 years. So it's like all of it, even when I'm directing and they're like, we lost a location. Oh, my God. We're freaking out. You know, it's going to be, you know, everyone's the actors could be so that we can't. Oh, my God. I don't know what to say. And I'm just like, this is a cool job. I've held both of my children in different states of, are they dying or not? And so I think contextually, I'm like, we're going to find another location.

32:55Lake Bell:Yeah, we're going to be fine.

32:56Dana Carvey:It's a movie.

32:58Lake Bell:It does put it in perspective when you go, there are a lot worse problems right now. I wish everyone wouldn't freak out so hard because we're wasting freak out.

33:06David Spade:also for all the time that we just freaked out about that we could have been like you know like let's see what's across the street let's see can we talk to let's talk and it's funny they always figure it out they all you always figure it out so i'm like you see the movie you don't see a blip no and frankly just if we're talking inside baseball about directing for a second it's like oftentimes there are moments where okay you did lose that location and then whatever for or like we have to reshoot this scene because of blah blah blah and you're going oh my god i can't think of a worse piece of information for my editor right now but whatever it is it always ends up kind of exactly as it should be it's it's always great you know especially when you have to revisit something or you get a new location and then you just make it work and then no one's the wiser that sees the

33:54Lake Bell:movie and they go i don't really care about that stuff is the movie working but also in life like

33:59David Spade:Like now with parenting and shit like that, you're just like, well, you know, a lot of the times we come up against moments where it's not as you planned. It's not how you thought it was going to be. This person kind of did this and you thought they were going to do that. All of those expectations are what get in the way of it. If you could just kind of sort of adapt and adjust. I mean, that's what I'm always trying to, you know, sort of teach to my children. The adapt is such a great.

34:27Dana Carvey:Yeah, just roll with stuff. okay, now we'll deal with this and then this and really think of life as a kind of a series of problems in a sense, you know?

34:35Lake Bell:It's hard to watch kids get so much anxiety also because you go, God, this is your worst thing and it's really nothing in the big picture. But to this point in your life, like high school especially is very hard. And you go, fuck, I wish I could talk you down and just to say, you won't really remember almost any of this problems. Young people are

34:55Dana Carvey:nostalgic for the analog world i i hear this a lot and they'll watch gray's anatomy like crazy because they don't have iphones they don't have instagram they don't know so the toxicity of that and now you raising your young people through this is a whole other set of challenges i have

35:13David Spade:it's funny i went and got um just talking about nostalgia so i don't know if you guys go to vidiots which is a really cool art house theater in los angeles and um also a non-profit that does that kind of preserves DVDs and VHS tapes. I go and take my kids to go rent DVDs. Oh, cool. I then bought myself, you know, for the house, a little combo, a TV and DVD player.

35:45Dana Carvey:Oh, wow. Right. You plug it right in. You see this is the device it's on.

35:49Lake Bell:Those are already gone. It's crazy.

35:51David Spade:yeah and the idea of not scrolling what are we gonna watch i don't know i've already seen that

35:57Lake Bell:like this is it this is what we're watching we just rented it we're putting it in and then

36:02David Spade:choice called deborah um and so i'm like you have to be very delicate with deborah and so you press the button on you wait wait yeah wait now press eject and wait you know there's a lot of waiting to put it in press it you know it's like everything is so considerate

36:24Lake Bell:it kind of pulls it from your hand if you go really lightly it kind of sucks it in it's great we at one point

36:32Dana Carvey:only had a blu-ray player when we moved up to this house and we just quickly bought 10 blu-rays and so I guess we're going to watch The Godfather and then you're committed to the movie and it really is when you're on live stream and watching all these shows you're like I don't know. Are you feeling this? Okay. And then boom, you're gone.

36:50David Spade:You're out. Yeah. What is that? It is actually feeding our short attention span and it's just like, yes, you're like, it's like, it's, it's actually flexing and it's flexing a muscle that we shouldn't, which is to just bail, you know, talk about adaptation and being adaptive.

37:11Dana Carvey:Let's talk about the chair company, a perfect introduction to that. which my wife and i watched the first two episodes last night oh you did and she did not have to watch the second episode unless she wanted to okay and so we both fell in love with it it's so the reason we loved it and it didn't make us wander is because it it's full of so many surprises it's tim robinson in full quirk and you and others and so it keeps going places you don't expect right So I think it's great. And it's been picked up for season two, I heard. Yes.

37:46David Spade:You're in a hit. I will say that I'm not really in the first episodes. I'm kind of like, you know, it all unfurls. So that's what I think.

37:57Dana Carvey:Shut up, Barb.

37:59Lake Bell:Exactly. He yells up the stairs like, oh, my God. Yeah. Shut up, Barb. He's so bananas. Everyone acts like it's normal. Okay, cool.

38:08David Spade:yes that's the thing is i think being a straight man you know straight woman to his really just chaotic wonderful misanthropic curmudgeonly tornado of a character so stressed at all

38:25Lake Bell:so stressed and like shooting with him he's not like that at all i don't know if you know him

38:32Dana Carvey:personally i don't know at all i assume he's not no but you never know he was on snl for a while

38:39Lake Bell:and rose funny classically did not use him right or something because look at all this shit he's

38:44Dana Carvey:done it's so but the people's reaction to his character and you being one of them is you know the laugh is often on someone processing madness that we don't get a chance to us just viewers from home you know like so you've you know i can see how it's i don't know where it's going but

39:00David Spade:you know i'm going to i'm so excited you know for you to it to unfurl the other ones that the fact that you're on number two have you seen any of the finished number two you finished number two okay it gets it's goes not where you think ever and i think what i love about the show and being a part of it is that it is unique in its tone yes and it surprises you there's a piece in there which

39:26Dana Carvey:doesn't give away the plot or anything where he's driving with somebody and he does a satire basically about live streaming or just non-performative people who make millions of dollars or something it's sort of x-rated rapping but it wasn't rapping they're just talking you know the moment i'm talking about like that was really surprising it was just a great moment to put that in there and it was just really laugh out loud funny the way the guy yeah it's also like the the the camera work is so excellent um ashley um the dp is like has such a well also i give

40:04David Spade:credit to andy de young as well just the director who did friendship um people have seen that um and it has such a um sometimes almost like lynchian like you'll see it's like it gets

40:17Dana Carvey:david lynchian has brought up mulholland drive for some of the reddit people talking about it

40:23Lake Bell:yeah quirky quirky yeah and when you i don't know if it's up for best comedy but when you see a comedy that you actually laugh at which is honestly rare yeah well we're all snobs but when you laugh because it's not predictable and you're and there's something out of the blue

40:38David Spade:throwaway lines right and left where you're like oh my god these kids were getting drunk with their

40:43Lake Bell:teacher at the set and you're like with their teach like they just throw away stuff that's just so weird and no one mentions it you go right and it's like tiny little throwaways on my birthday

40:54David Spade:you know like that was a that's a perfect example of like what there's no reason

41:01Lake Bell:for a random laugh and then everyone just keeps going and you go because i i've worked with um

41:07David Spade:uh hbo before and i've obviously a ton of comedies and usually i feel like the the the the flavor and the general kind of movement of comedic music is like clean keep it clean and then bring it on back and then oh you flood that line go again you know it's like faster you know cleaner tighter and with this i really felt like i was in a different sheet of music like i And I was not – yeah, it was a different – it was like jazz riffing because there were moments where, you know, he might flub. And I was like, oh, I see. They're going to use that take.

41:53Lake Bell:Yeah, they'll keep it because it's real.

41:55David Spade:Yeah, because it felt – and so the kind of awkward – the tension of that is –

42:00Lake Bell:And long pauses and weird things where normally they go, can you just tighten that up? We'll just got to keep it moving. And you're like, no.

42:08David Spade:There's books like that.

42:09Dana Carvey:You can strangle that comedy in a second with a different director. You can completely beat the shit out of it. So I'm envious because I don't think I've ever been in that situation, but I know what you mean. And I think that the genius of Marlon Brando, what a weird reference, he tried to get it ad hoc. He tried to discover in the moment. He didn't want to be locked in. He'd have it on an orange or he'd peel it and get his line, whatever, to deconstruct the idea of it. and then obviously when you're doing takes and you're discovering it real time like you like are going this is real for me right now this is not like i rehearsed it it does pop and i can feel that that's what i'm feeling when i'm watching the show i guess yeah we don't rehearse at all

42:53David Spade:so only if there was a stunt or something you know with but but even i mean we'll rehearse the stunt but we'll never rehearse the lines like before you know clint eastwood or woody allen really you know yeah you just you'll be in the moment and you'll say it for the first time then

43:09Lake Bell:and it makes people good because even on those Clint Eastwood movies they say when I come to the set you know I've had guys that do 15 20 takes so you're basically almost carrying your many sides to the real shooting going well I know we're not using the first eight I know and which is such a bummer because in comedy you're like sometimes things just happen and now I've got to recreate them because of continuity and I'm like yeah if you can just get rehearsal even it's half the time it's the funniest because that's the first time it's i agree oh back and forth yeah shoot the

43:38Dana Carvey:rehearsal i was in a movie once yeah always shoot the rehearsal right so don't even tell them it's just on for you as a director and then you're seeing this style or maybe you've seen it before does it influence you do you try to emulate it or do you do it yourself anyway i'm really

43:52David Spade:interested i mean i learned how to direct by being in the fucking trenches of a trillion in different sets and how people are operating, but not just within, you know, the, within the director's brain, but you know, how they're relating to the rest of the departments, you know, and how actors are feeling, you know, with different things. Ooh, that performance, like I can tell the way that act, the way that director just spoke to this actor really got that great performance or actually botched it. Like, and so we, and also obviously as, as actors, were kind of like, I know what I like and what I don't like, you know?

44:30Lake Bell:Um, well, if you're tuning into that, which is different because most people are just worried about the lines and the actors are just doing it. If you're adding, I'm tuning into the director, not only talking to me, but how he's dealing with the DP, how he's dealing with the other departments. That's when you start to learn about directing. Cause all that stuff is like you're on blinders if you're an actor and then you go, wait, what do you even do back here? And there's so much, so many things happen. Someone comes up with two pieces of carpet, this one, or this one, he's like that one. You're like, okay and you go oh this is for a scene in three weeks they're working on and there's storyboards

45:02David Spade:there's so many things to go over yeah a lot of work i think that also you know if you have access at all um for instance when they say okay you can go to your trailer and we'll call you when you're ready you know it's like you have the access to be like oh i'll um go ahead and just get a chair and i'll sit here and just get a tea and i'm gonna watch them flip it over to the other side and see how they do it how fast they do it who does what yeah it is quite a rush though right like when you

45:26Dana Carvey:have an idea about a scene and then you get the first rough cut of it or i felt good but you don't know and you go fuck it's working and this is great you're bringing people into the edit bay what do you think they're laughing or saying this is great and so that's the rush of the fuck the hard work of being a director so hard but you work for that that's the moment right

45:48David Spade:well yeah it's been interesting like having the kids on sets and stuff where they're looking at and they're going, oh my God, you know, I have to explain. This is a scene that will be probably five seconds. All of these hundreds of people are here. We're all, there's all of this work, all these trucks for these five seconds, you know?

46:10Lake Bell:Right. That's the funny thing. You got an eighth of a page one day when you go in, you go, it's still the same hair and makeup. Oh yeah, yeah. It's still the same everything. Everyone's coming to work.

46:20David Spade:Everyone's coming to work.

46:20Lake Bell:And it's just to get a look, a reaction shot.

46:23David Spade:An eighth of a page can also be like, you know, you know, she comes in, she takes her, you know, she, she, she, she makes a tea, she sits down and she calls her mother. Okay, fine. You know, and there's like three lines or something like that. And you're like, okay, I'm going to be in and out for this one. But you know, it's not true.

46:41Lake Bell:Hilariously true. Even I remember in those superhero movies, they said we do about a fourth of a page a day. They're like, the line is like the Batmobile tears through Gotham. And you're like, well, that's going to take a while. that's a week that's yeah they go the whole city yeah so that's why little things like that you're right there's some where they'll go in a two shot and you're out of there and you don't even notice it you're like oh my god we're just gonna stay on a two shot that's great and then some you're like

47:07David Spade:i had no idea this would take four hours i know no and i try to i mean i get people out i move really quickly because i do think that in general i do favor uh people you know two shots and shots and things like that and like playing it in the wide and you know get two cameras running and see

47:26Lake Bell:moving masters yeah well they work i mean it's cool because it makes you pay attention if you're

47:32David Spade:the audience oh yeah and the actors love it the actors love it we love it when we can come in and just be with each other and exist in the space oh it's i if you ever have need someone

47:42Dana Carvey:in a movie that i could do anybody i'll do a italian waiter or something but uh that you know when you watch old timey films, there's a lot of moving masters. There's a lot of two shots moving in and out. Of course, Woody Allen really adapted that, but old timey films to edit was like spooling a hundred thousand feet of footage to do one little edit. So they really made sure that now it's in the, the last 20 years. I know, you know,

48:08David Spade:I do like cross coverage for comedians though. Like we love that. We like to be able to play. And if there's a happy accident that happens and someone says something fucking hilarious we got it and we haven't got a response to it you know it's like your real

48:22Lake Bell:reaction yeah yeah yeah i had someone do uh on a movie kind of sabotage because i did my side and then when they did their side they changed their lines and did all these things and ad libs and i was like oh so i have no reaction any of this that's like a little dastardly move

48:41David Spade:it's really a bummer to be honest i mean like i've been you know i did a sketch show recently and the budget was low. And so it was like they couldn't do two cameras running, you know, and it was like we're just doing a quick set. And I was like, ah, fucking A, because you're really screwed kind of.

48:56Dana Carvey:Fucking A.

48:57David Spade:Yeah, fucking A.

49:00Dana Carvey:I say to people, get a crew of three, get like three actors together, do it on iPhones with maybe one sound person, and just give yourself 12 days to shoot, you know. I mean, sometimes these things are so magnificently done, but there's no there there, and you're flipping off immediately.

49:21David Spade:Yeah. I think that's why also with Chair Company, it's like there is kind of an economy to how – I mean, yes, we had a full rig and everything. But there is an economy to the visual storytelling too. You know, it's like she's using Zooms. You know, it's like you're out here. You're coming in. I mean, that's just one shot, but it's doing a lot, you know?

49:46Lake Bell:I thought that show would be a little more low budget only because it's just a funny guy. And he was also on what I was called, I think you should leave. And so you just go, I don't know what budget they're giving a guy who's just funny because I don't know. I mean, sometimes they would spend on a big drama, right? And so when you see these, they're like, they'll come up with something. But it looks great. And I kept thinking, wow, there's a lot happening here. They're not just, it's not a cheap. Beautiful.

50:16David Spade:It's the first show too. I was going to say earlier that it's the first show where I'm, I noticed that in the scripts, like when we're reading the scripts, I'm like, oh, this scene, this whole scene, this like page and a half is purely for a joke.

50:31Lake Bell:No. Or there's a lot of money for one joke.

50:34David Spade:Yeah. In a series, it's usually like, yeah, but why is this paying off for the plot and like for this character? to kind of like have an emotional arc and response in order to say something about that. No, it would be like, oh, we're just, like there was this one, I don't know if you've seen the flashback Christmas and this is not giving away anything too much. If you haven't seen it, a lot of handwork here I'm doing.

51:01David Spade:And there's a flashback to us at a Christmas party. It's my Christmas party. I used to be a lawyer and they cast, there's just a moment where like ron's talking of some guy at the party you know and he's going you know get me out of here and they cast um an impersonator for curly like from the stooge and i don't think he's ever done anything else um yeah and you'll know you'll see it now when you watch it okay so it's funny and i remember coming to set and being like is he doing a and they're like yeah he's a curly impersonator okay like some pa yeah he's yeah yeah yeah yeah he just he does call this casual casual and um and then they would do on set they would have him do this but he was amazing and him and ron him and and um tim are talking and it's basically him doing this kind of speech of bullshit uh and he's chatting his ear off as curly and they would turn up the curly and then turn he would have this actor turn down the curly and when they turned down the curly it was almost like he couldn't even he like couldn't find his line you know what he was this poor guy because he's like i do curly

52:28Dana Carvey:all right yeah don't just curly i don't i don't do shades of curly okay shakespeare i don't do

52:36David Spade:depressed curly i don't do bored curly i do curly he was terrific and you'll see in it you really notice it's only for this it's tiny a flip but boy is it good but those texture things even on

52:49Lake Bell:snl they'll have they'll bring a donkey in and it costs them five grand and then they'll go just for a cutaway and you go oh do we need the donkey for sure but lauren doesn't even question he goes no i like it and then they're like go find one and i was like oh fuck because it's so easy to cut it they go that would save us so much five thousand dollars we should be in the donkey

53:10Dana Carvey:business yeah that's not a rerun 20 years from now and you'll see the donkey and you'll like be

53:16Lake Bell:really really happy that you know like when they show like the cold opening and then lauren comes out and he's like talking backstage during the monologue and behind him there's like roman emperors and three donkeys and i never knew that they weren't in the show it was just like this is going to be the show and you're like oh that's gonna be a funny sketch but he goes uh i need like an egyptian backstage and then just all these weird things people dressed in feathers

53:39David Spade:and then it's never a sketch yeah they're only it's texture yeah it's texture and it's so funny

53:46Lake Bell:and it's perfect and it needs when i figured it out when i was on snl i go oh those aren't even in the show i'm so dumb i just have to tell you data there's something i'm excited about now you remember we talked about jury duty the show oh yeah yeah yeah and that one i saw it on tiktok and then it was kind of a word of mouth thing it blew up it was funny and uh it actually all pulled together which i was shocked they pulled that thing together yeah uh and i was like will they do it again? And they did.

54:23Dana Carvey:Cool. I think that's very cool.

54:26Lake Bell:It was set in the courtroom the first time. And this is going to be a company retreat. Yeah. Yeah. Jury duty presents company retreat. It takes this groundbreaking social experiment out of the courthouse. Stay with me, Dana. I got it. And drops it into the most relatable setting ever. Oh, yeah. Company corporate retreat. And if you've ever survived that awkward team building exercises or a trust fall with co-workers you you know the vibe yeah i mean this is an inspired idea

54:56Dana Carvey:i gotta say after jury duty to put it in a company retreat this season follows anthony a real temp hired by rockin grandma's hot sauce for their annual retreat right there they should figure it out rockin grandma's hot sauce yeah i know except he has no idea the entire thing is staged around him it's it's a workplace comedy meets hidden camera and uh it's unpredictable it's authentic it's so full of heart the stakes are higher the laughs are bigger and it still celebrates the goodness in people and here's the wild part rocking grandma's hot sauce they're actually making it okay and the flavors will be available on amazon oh my god i wonder if they started that

55:39Lake Bell:first or if they they just made up that name and then it sounded funny and it's going to get a lot of attention but you know this thing i'm kind of glad they didn't do it in the courtroom again someone would figure that out i would think oh i don't think they could do it in the courtroom i

55:55Dana Carvey:think the company retreat is uh the next best one yeah it's hard to think of where to do it but they did a good job so yeah looking forward to that me too streaming on prime video march 20th david i just want to say this to you a good wardrobe isn't about quantity it's about quality and guess what quince nails that quince they're lightweight cashmere sweaters mongolian cashmere polos linen bottoms and 100 pima cotton tees are the versatile pieces i actually wear year after

56:30Lake Bell:year oh yeah they quince you know they cut out the middleman you get premium fabrics without the retail markup the cashmere is mongolian the cotton is long staple the linen is european jersey built to last and feel amazing. Everything is rated 4.5 to 5 stars for a reason. For me, those linen shorts are game changers. People get to see my pins. I've heard all about that. I got my sticks out. No wrinkles, go with everything. Not crazy expensive. The cashmere polo looks luxe, feels great. Wearing it constantly.

57:03Dana Carvey:That's fantastic. Stop filling your closet with options that don't work. Focus on a few pieces that actually do. Right now, go to quince.com slash fly for free shipping and 365-day returns. That's a full year to build your wardrobe and love it.

57:19Lake Bell:And you will. Now available in Canada, too, so don't keep settling for clothes that don't last. Go to quince.com slash fly for free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince.com slash fly.

57:34David Spade:Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter? Right? And the best part? They accept Discover. Accept Discover? In a little place like this? I don't think so, Jennifer. Oh, yeah, huh. Discover's accepted where I like to shop. Come on, baby, get with the times. Right, so we shouldn't get the parachute pants? These are making a comeback. I think.

57:57Lake Bell:Discover is accepted at 99 % of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen Report.

58:04Dana Carvey:When you do SNL now, I don't know if I told you, you were there doing Hunter Biden, that Lauren is now at home base when the show starts and you come out and kind of shake hands or hug him or whatever.

58:17Lake Bell:Let's get this one fist bump.

58:19Dana Carvey:And normally you kind of would go behind the slats and then, but I was dressed as Joe Biden. So I had the gray wig. I had the whole thing on. I'd go out and I'd shake hands with Lauren. And then to make myself laugh, I would do a side thing as fast as I could with tons of energy, like jumping and skipping over to behind the thing. Just to make myself laugh that they're seeing Biden going like this.

58:44Lake Bell:Before he comes out like this.

58:47Dana Carvey:that's what people said but um anyway the fact the matter is that's the poem and guess what and by the way the fact the matter is I'm being serious right now I'm not kidding around get your facts straight Jack that's it my cheeks hurt I'm really happy

59:11David Spade:tell us that you're into cars or not

59:13Lake Bell:we're easy wind up dolls I know we're winding up late because she's a good laugher.

59:18David Spade:Well, that was really special. I feel like I just got like a little.

59:21Lake Bell:You just got a private show. Oh, good.

59:23David Spade:It's a fun song. I know. That was a beautiful song. You're a great Biden singer. And, you know, I was at the 50th and that was a special show too. And I had never, you know, I hadn't been to the show in a while. And it was like, you know, I hadn't sat in the audience, you know, and really it's magic to have a little.

59:43Dana Carvey:It's wild. yeah guess who stole the show what guess who stole the 50th well with david's line for the writers was their favorite line of the night when he was in the bleachers going oh i gotta feel for it i gotta feel for it oh because i left the sketch during the during the big john mulaney musical and then i sat in the audience and they go where's

1:00:09Lake Bell:that's funny that they broke the fourth wall in the middle of the sketch yeah

1:00:13Dana Carvey:Yeah, and the way you did it, like you truly were exhausted and kind of done with it. And they're up there dancing for their donuts. And you're just like, I got it.

1:00:23Lake Bell:Dana, I saw that that 50th was one something the other night.

1:00:27Dana Carvey:It was Critics' Choice. I think it was nominated. I think it won.

1:00:31Lake Bell:It was Best 50th Anniversary Show.

1:00:35Dana Carvey:That's a new category.

1:00:37Lake Bell:We were the only one up for it.

1:00:38Dana Carvey:Do you root for any movie at the Golden Globes? Do you have any kind of, I think that person should win or I think that movie. Are you one battle after another? Are you a Marty Supreme? Yeah, what are you?

1:00:51David Spade:No, I, you know, I don't get, award season gets, it gets me like hives. I don't know. I just.

1:00:58Lake Bell:Here's Lake at the party. Did you think that was good at the lead actor one? And you go, I didn't see any. I don't know the one.

1:01:04David Spade:Well, you know, sometimes you get anxiety. They say to you, you know, who are you rooting for?

1:01:10Dana Carvey:Oh, good. i gave you the precursor i love them all well it's gotten pathetic i grew up with the oscars and now there's like 25 award shows and i feel like some of them i won't name them but they've got their acceptance speech and sometimes they can peek at a at the seg afterwards or something then by the time they get to the oscars they're exhausted with their acceptance speech you gotta hold some

1:01:35Lake Bell:i saw that sandler didn't win something the other night and i'm like i want to hear sandler's speech they just go by who's got a good speech what are you gonna do because you know he he had a good one at the uh palm springs we just do adam from 25 that's all he says and everyone

1:02:00Dana Carvey:people would love it ah but you know anyway it's a promotion for the business that's all it is and And for fashion, I guess.

1:02:08David Spade:I don't know.

1:02:09Lake Bell:I have to say for Lake, if she, the fact that she's grinding it out and killing it, the duration, it's just hard to stay in showbiz for this long. And you're doing a great job.

1:02:23Dana Carvey:But you're doing. Very hard to do. She's doing all of showbiz's though. You're doing every quadrant. You're not an actress waiting for the phone. Did it ring?

1:02:32David Spade:Yeah, that is, it would drive me crazy. I think when I feel sedentary, like when I feel too quiet, I like to, I think I do like control. I do like to creatively, you know, kind of drum up. And so I'm always writing. I got like.

1:02:51Dana Carvey:Yeah. I mean, I think this audio book was very cool. I just looked it up and listening to it inside voices. It was very interesting. Just about she was interviewing people and talking about, do you like your voice and how important the voice is?

1:03:05David Spade:Well, because I think in extension of my work within a world, I've just always been really interested and curious about our speaking voice as this kind of calling card for all the histories we've ever endured, you know, and kind of, you know, we carry a lot. I mean, whether you realize it or not, obviously accents and dialects and a little like how your vowels come out, you know, might cue that you grew up in Philadelphia or, you know, things like that. But then how we kind of puff out or peacock a little bit when we're, you know, in different scenarios. Like I'm articulating a little more than I normally do, you know, right now.

1:03:45David Spade:I think I'm also a little bit lower in my register in this moment talking about this because I'm speaking more serious.

1:03:51Lake Bell:It's serious. Yeah. Yeah. Voices are fingerprints. I mean, you know someone from their voice your whole life. And even if they age, the voice is always sort of recognizable.

1:04:03David Spade:Yeah. And also it can be really like it can make me crawl too. You know, I have certain. Yeah, the wrong one. You know, if someone comes in for a job interview, you know, or something like that, I mean, to be a babysitter or whatever, you know, or an assistant. and if their voice i'm very sensitive to it so it's like we're we're out on that job dana

1:04:28Dana Carvey:david has a cool voice you know i don't have a voice i don't have a face or a voice i'm just neutral i can go you could make me a character or make my voice go lately i've been doing carrie grant leaving messages for a friend just every day every day they get the call i hope you're having a good day did you see one battle after another the dicaprio kids very good see but you're

1:04:51David Spade:million so without is in itself your vocal dexterity is like i'm in awe of that you know

1:04:57Lake Bell:in two seconds it changes i enjoy it it's fun i don't really practice it or anything but i'm

1:05:05Dana Carvey:working on billy bob thornton in in his landman character you know i don't i didn't see that so

1:05:10David Spade:I can't. Yeah.

1:05:11Dana Carvey:It's another one that's, I couldn't describe it, but it's, it goes surprising places. I have to say it's, it's totally different than, than your, your show, but it goes surprising places and he's just great.

1:05:26David Spade:In Inside Voice, you know, I talked to like the likes of iconic voices like, um, like Jeff Goldblum and like, where did that start, you know? And like Barrymore,

1:05:37Dana Carvey:Or, you know, people who have been very imitated.

1:05:42Lake Bell:Yes, very impersonated for sure. Yeah, impersonated.

1:05:45Dana Carvey:Distinct voices. Yes.

1:05:46Lake Bell:I do Billy Bob and his T-Mobile commercial.

1:05:49Dana Carvey:Okay, let's see.

1:05:50Lake Bell:I'm kidding.

1:05:51Dana Carvey:Okay.

1:05:51Lake Bell:He does a T-Mobile commercial where he's like from Landman. Right, Dana? Have you seen it?

1:05:56Dana Carvey:Basically, yeah.

1:05:57Lake Bell:He's walking out in the desert. Come on now. Whatever he's talking about.

1:06:00Dana Carvey:Yeah. You know, T-Mobile's got more, you know, what the fuck's going on here? god damn it no he's a they have the f word too i mean that's the same your your show just those fly whenever they fly or they fly and they do whatever you you know find dana that like to get

1:06:19David Spade:into an accent or dial sorry now we're getting into like my obsession but like do you find that you you have a bridge uh phrase um because i find with accents dialects i have like a bridge or a Oh, yeah.

1:06:33Dana Carvey:A thousand percent. Yeah. Yeah. A thousand percent. You don't just jump in.

1:06:36David Spade:You got a hook.

1:06:38Dana Carvey:Yeah. Yeah. You need you need a little hook. And for Biden, it was that. Guess what? Yeah. And by the way, the fact of the matter is, come on. And so that got me into it. And then I could kind of talk like him. But that was a challenge. But anyway, it's always things are coming at me. I mean, Trump's been done forever. You know, I don't know if you guys are aware of that. How many people do an impression? of him so there's there's i think pierce morgan has a very interesting voice uh-huh and i think that senator kennedy as of you know obviously bobby kennedy jr i do but yeah there's a lot of people out there and there's regular movie stars anyway it's fun but um shall we wrap it up i don't know i don't know do you have any other questions because we think you you're up she did a great

1:07:21Lake Bell:with two children thank you for doing your hair she writes she directs she does it's not quite the golden gloves now when you do a podcast we had heard that when we have an actress on they might not want to come on video because it's they have to doll up and i said i think in

1:07:38David Spade:podcasts you catch a little bit of a break you you do and you know somewhere in the middle on glam and I was like I mean I think I can do the glam I can glam in my bathroom you know with my

1:07:53Lake Bell:curling iron and with a banana clip and a scrunchie and yeah you know but I don't know

1:08:00Dana Carvey:well you're photogenic I mean I'll just saying it kind of casually you really have great features yeah um it's it's just you I'm sure directors say you don't have a bad angle probably you know yeah but uh yeah it's fine and i do think we're all used to this and you know i have a couple ring lights in a window and i mean we're all kind of a little more than the early days where it was pitch black and no one knew what we were doing now you see people it looks like a studio well i hope i get to see you guys at these parties yeah i i do i've quoted you often throughout the years because when we did the press junket you know it's the awkward goodbye because we've been hanging out all day with bobby moynihan and laughing and stuff and then it's like hey and then you just

1:08:44David Spade:said see around campus yeah i did say that and so i use that a lot well because it's kind of like it's fun right so let's what says a lot we're all at college basically we're going to run into each

1:08:56Dana Carvey:other we're in show business which is weirdly such a tiny group of people in the big picture you know there's not that many parties or that many comedians or whatever it's like a party and

1:09:07David Spade:you see someone who you don't you haven't met before but you both are actors and you both know that each other are actors and you do the kind of like hi you know that's how i'm gonna say hi to you like i know you know we both know that we know each other here's lake when i see you at the golden

1:09:27Lake Bell:globe where i go hi lake and you go hi i know you from somewhere and i go where did we yeah we just

1:09:33David Spade:Well, the good one is, it's so nice to see you when you don't know if you've met them or not.

1:09:39Lake Bell:Yep.

1:09:41Dana Carvey:Or when they give you a soft hug and you see that they're looking over at a bigger celebrity. They're going.

1:09:49Lake Bell:I've never had anyone even look at me at those parties. They just go like this. Oh, come on.

1:09:54Dana Carvey:Usually they say, can I get her freshen up?

1:09:58Lake Bell:They go to give me a hug by the shoulders and then they move me.

1:10:01David Spade:they move you over to the side

1:10:04Lake Bell:Benicio

1:10:06David Spade:Benicio

1:10:06Dana Carvey:one time we went to a party David got on my shoulders and I was like you couldn't see me and then he was dancing around with a Mararachi thing going on look at me yeah well like why is like so popular like even I'm here even more on every show and with am I saying like no you don't say it hardly at all you said like maybe twice but like is really good it was like really hard and i was like very scared and i was like really

1:10:35David Spade:hard it's like really hard i like when they don't finish it they go it's kind of like

1:10:42Lake Bell:yeah they don't finish the sentence and you're like you just got to like that's all you got to

1:10:45Dana Carvey:but that's been around since the 80s or 70s sort of called the valley girl but it's even still just

1:10:51David Spade:back with people from everywhere it's still here it's i mean it's better than the like oop i said it oh oh because we're kind of we're kind of teasing it a little bit i'm gonna if i

1:11:03Dana Carvey:hear myself say i'm gonna substitute lake for like it's like it's like it's like it's like i didn't even know but it's like let's see if we can start a thing well sometimes you're allowed

1:11:13David Spade:to utilize it as a a version of as if it is like right no it's it has utility as a word yeah utility

1:11:23Dana Carvey:yeah it's not completely you know all right all right thank you dana i made you lunch come in the kitchen um the chair company on hbo which makes quality products i have to say you know hbo is a

1:11:38Lake Bell:hbo doesn't fuck around they wait for a good one they don't make shitty ones and so this is uh

1:11:42Dana Carvey:hbo max jim downey our friends on it tim oh yeah jim downey star who's hellum oh tell him hello

1:11:49David Spade:He was my head writer when I was there.

1:11:53Lake Bell:I had to report to him.

1:11:55David Spade:Okay.

1:11:56Lake Bell:We all kind of did.

1:11:58Dana Carvey:If you run into Downey, just go, what was it like to be a regular infantryman in George Washington's army in the latter part of the war? And he'll give you two hours. The guy goes into libraries and colleges. He's from Harvard or Yale. I don't know. He's the brainiac of all time in terms of American history. Really? And he's fascinating to listen to. I don't have to be friends with him.

1:12:21Lake Bell:I can't believe I ignore him so much. You don't interact with him. You're at home.

1:12:27David Spade:Barb is over there.

1:12:29Lake Bell:All right. Shut up. Barb. Shut up, Barb.

1:12:33David Spade:Trosper. Trosper? Yeah, Trosper. Barb Trosper. I'm Barb Trosper.

1:12:39Dana Carvey:Even stupider.

1:12:40David Spade:I'm Barb Trosper. I remember I was like, even the words like Fisher Robey? It's the name of the mall company?

1:12:50Lake Bell:someone's working overtime on these dumb names oh it's so good what's a chair company quick

1:12:55Dana Carvey:i love him walking around the mall there's something about a mall walking around a mall

1:13:00David Spade:it's really fun it makes sense but it's like a robot i just kept being like i'm dyslexic so i

1:13:05Lake Bell:was like oh pretty sure a little bit like i couldn't blind please um oh there was something

1:13:13David Spade:else like i kept saying a name wrong oh this is really fun sorry last thing but they would say like there's um the the the girlfriend like the fiance of our daughter is named tara but we intentionally say it wrong so sometimes it's tara and tara and i was like is it tara or tara and

1:13:32Lake Bell:they're like it's fine don't worry about it and i was like but is it they're like because that

1:13:36David Spade:happens in real life people say yeah and it's just because we don't like her you know we love people

1:13:43Dana Carvey:like that are in charge of this that are not control freaks and are open to the mistakes and The weirdness and the quirky. Yeah.

1:13:50David Spade:And we don't like that. It's Tara.

1:13:53Dana Carvey:Tara. Tara. Tara.

1:13:55Lake Bell:All right, Lake. Thank you. I have to go microwave my lunch. I appreciate you coming on.

1:13:59Dana Carvey:Nice to see you, Lake. Let's follow Tom. See you around campus.

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