In short
Nick Kroll guest episode featuring nonstop riffing, impressions, and comedy talk, plus discussion of his shows Big Mouth and Adults, how animated series get made, and how streaming/social media drives viewership. They also joke about current celebrity news: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce being engaged, and spin it into predictions about their future and baby branding.
Guest backgrounds
Nick Kroll is a comedian and actor known for Netflix’s Big Mouth (and prior collaboration with others on it) and FX’s animated series Adults, which he produces. The hosts (Dana, David, and others) run Fly on the Wall and trade tangents and impressions.
Key claims
AI “did 9-11” (joking). Big Mouth and Adults succeed because creators are allowed to “go nuts,” and kids watch via clips/social media even if they don’t watch full episodes. Kroll retreated from overly personal confessional comedy after mixed audience response.
Notable examples
Kroll’s Trump/Kim Jong-un impression at Largo; discussion of Big Mouth’s “hormone monster” animation process; Taylor/Travis engagement riff; Arnold impressions “fest.”
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSetting Up for Nick Kroll
0:45 to 2:58
Dana and David discuss their excitement for Nick Kroll's appearance and share laughs.
“I had my porn star look last week, and now I'm just right.”
The Dynamics of Stand-Up Comedy
2:58 to 5:56
The hosts explore the nature of stand-up comedy, personal anecdotes, and the challenges faced by comedians.
“And now I'm just going to raise, I want you guys to see I'm going to raise it.”
Personal Stories and Audience Reactions
5:56 to 9:28
The discussion revolves around the balance between personal storytelling and audience expectations in comedy.
“It's fun, because that's what you do with friends.”
9-11 Jokes and Comedy Boundaries
9:28 to 11:21
A humorous debate on the appropriateness of 9-11 jokes in stand-up routines.
“Do you guys want to hear my old 9-11 joke?”
Kroll's Comedy Style
11:21 to 14:00
The hosts reminisce about Nick Kroll's comedic style and memorable performances.
“I want to tell you about the moment, because I think we talked about it last time, where you were like next level funny.”
Discussion on 50s Characters
14:00 to 15:00
Exploration of iconic figures from the 50s and their influence.
“It's just sort of, it's like a strong big man.”
Love Quiz: Taylor and Travis
15:00 to 17:00
A playful quiz about the hypothetical marriage of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce.
“doesn't do TV commercials, but they meet in a small town and have the chemistry.”
Imagining Celebrity Babies
17:00 to 20:00
Humorous speculation about the future of a celebrity couple's child.
“And the Taylor and the Travis that, you know, he's the football player.”
Nostalgia for Past TV Shows
20:00 to 22:00
Discussion on the legacy of older TV shows and their casting decisions.
“You think you're so special, Fred Armisen, with your eight seasons of Portland here.”
Promoting 'Adults' TV Show
22:00 to 24:20
Nick Kroll discusses his show 'Adults' and its themes.
“It's me, fortune climester, Tom Papa making bread.”
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Voice Acting in Animation
24:20 to 27:20
Insights into the process of voice acting in animated films and collaboration.
“It is so funny how you watch old movies, too, and you're like, that person...”
Engagements and Celebrity Gossip
27:20 to 28:00
Lighthearted banter about celebrity relationships and rumors.
“We sing, speaking of the newly engaged Taylor Swift.”
Pop Culture References and Conversations
28:00 to 30:09
The hosts engage in humorous discussions about celebrities, movies, and television shows.
“So how much are they going to chat about it today?”
The Making of Big Mouth
30:10 to 32:42
Nick Kroll shares insights on the creative process and challenges of producing Big Mouth.
“Kamala her Kamala as that we went on by the end.”
Social Media and Audience Engagement
32:43 to 36:58
The discussion focuses on how social media impacts viewership and audience interaction with the show.
“I was going to ask you if there were things where someone or even you guys said, ah, maybe that's too much.”
Nostalgia and Comedy
36:59 to 42:02
The hosts reflect on their childhood influences and nostalgic television experiences, blending humor and personal anecdotes.
“It's not like, you know, when we were when you when we were all making, you know, like Green Acres or, you know, the Andy Griffith show.”
Nostalgia for Sex Symbols
42:02 to 42:55
The hosts discuss their childhood crushes and the celebrities who shaped their sexual awakening.
“When you were like 16, you know, who was the sex symbol of the day?”
Larry King Memories
42:55 to 43:56
Dana Carvey shares his experiences with Larry King and his unique interviewing style.
Promoting Works and Projects
43:56 to 45:09
The hosts and Nick Kroll discuss various projects, including movies and shows they're involved in.
“And then he just starts asking questions He was very skilled I think I went on once with Norm But I also think that when he walked in He goes, who are these guys?”
Celebrity Relationships and Speculations
45:09 to 46:05
The conversation shifts to discussing Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's relationship and its implications.
“You know, let's promote the chiefs new season, the chiefs, Travis, Kelsey's football team, the chiefs, uh, Taylor's got a new album coming.”
Nick Kroll's Future Projects
46:05 to 47:58
Nick Kroll shares plans for directing and writing Coneheads 2, along with other comedic projects.
“Ever since I got that news, I feel like I've been off.”
Nick Kroll's Departure and Reflections
47:58 to 49:33
As Nick leaves, the hosts reflect on the fun and spontaneity of his visit, discussing comedic styles.
“As soon as we're done with a first cut, I'll send it to you, okay?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00AI covers anything now. Dude, AI did it. AI did 9-11. Fuck yeah. Dude, and that's what we're not talking about. And that's what we're finally talking about.
0:11Dana Carvey:A 1950s baby body. The calves of Taylor Swift. The calves would be kind of puny. But the quads would be the... I'll buy the baby's calves. The big eyebrows of Travis. We're going to do some TikTok videos today, Jimmy. We're putting some content online. Come on, that shit again. Let's go to the coffee bean. What the fuck is a TikTok? Central Perk. That's what they called your dick, a tic-tac. Dana? Yes? Look at this. I've got the dark room. You've got the bright room. Well, I can darken it. No, no. We're really shaking stuff up. We've got to keep them guessing. I had my porn star look last week, and now I'm just right.
0:57plant plants a hit water it all the time a lot of comments plants a hit what about my superman
1:04Dana Carvey:still a medium hit but yeah so we've got i don't really need this much light i feel like i'm using too much light you know no i know i'm i'm down mixing things up and shaking shit up so it's a little dark behind me in this uh studio you're in a dungeon and if you turn the lights off be pitch black no my legs are chained right now so i can't escape but we got nick kroll we've had nick kroll before we think he's funny as shit and i want to riff with him and fuck around funny mother shut your mouth and he's got he's got um let me see uh big mouth of course huge show uh on netflix the animated show.
1:52He's got Adults, which is on FX. He's producing that on FX. I'm going to ask him about that. And he has a special out and he's just a good guy to really mostly just have laughs with. Yes. Totally. People want information, but they also want some laughs.
2:09Dana Carvey:Yeah, he's, you know, there are comedians that are sort of quiet or thoughtful. He's one of those that just like, you know. He wants to run with anything. To run with things, be funny. and by the way we fancy ourselves as sort of you know intellectuals and father figures in some way so if you want to ask us questions about life oh yeah that's right you can always ask us questions we'll answer them on the non-guest show I think but ask weird ones because we don't want simple we don't want complicated weird about your screwed up life sex life you know financial issues Relationship issues Anxiety and depression That's all very popular right now Nilarious Fly on the wall at odyssey.com Is what I hear Fly on the wall, one word, lowercase At odyssey.com Great, and we'll give you We'll hand you off to Nick Kroll You don't hear me now Fuck Now he sounds incredible I want to get One more question I couldn't afford that mic so I got this stand up mic I um what's nice is there's a weight so you know what I mean you know you feel like you don't have that heavy weight holding a microphone it's nice I've got that here we've got a lot more is it heavy it looks heavy yeah I mean I'm not gonna even go to the gym after this but Nick this is a real story related to this when I do stand up you ever seen stand up stand like this it's because I'm using a little fulcrum because the mic's getting too heavy and pulling on my neck.
3:47That's how much of a pussy I am. It's unreal. Yeah. Okay. And now I'm just going to raise, I want you guys to see I'm going to raise it. I've got a urine test kit that I'm going to use to raise the, just to give you a little more.
4:03Dana Carvey:That'll do it. Right? I'll just put it right on my hand. That's going to do it. That's going to do it. That's your famous. That's going to do it. Why? that's the thing is rhythms never go away because there's no, there's nothing funny about someone saying, God, do it. There's no reason. There's no joke. There's no twist. It's the song. It's a song. That's going to do it. Actually, you, the hook is just, it's, it's like a chorus of a song, like a hooky song. You go not going to. Okay. I'll do this for, I'll do this for Nick. Cause it's a, it, you know, You have bits in your act that get way, way bigger laughs than they should.
4:43Dana Carvey:It's almost mysterious. This is George Bush senior going off a high dive. So I'm walking up to the front of the stage. Gotta do it. Gotta do it. Then I look down, I go, not gonna do it. And the laugh is so monstrous. It always makes me mad. Are you, do you have that? Are you jealous of some of your jokes?
5:08Good question. jealous of them well i'd like to have more some jokes are funnier than me is that what you're saying yeah kind of and you're like you're kind of like fuck i wish i yeah i wish i was as funny as my joke i think yeah like when you get jokes at work all the time you go i wish they were all
5:26Dana Carvey:like this yeah well i'm just doing sounds now and i was gonna ask you about that just noises i'm Well, I'll just do Biden or Trump for 20 minutes, or I'll do Red Redneck-y. I'm just not really into regular stand-up as much. You know, like when you, and I have this, I'm more into just giving them what they want, because I'm a whore, and I'm lazy. I'm a lazy whore. But it's fun. It's fun, because that's what you do with friends. You don't really set up long form bits with friends. It's all kind of noise. Do you not do observational jokes with your friends? Do you kind of point out the small things in life that are funny and talk to them about it?
6:11Dana Carvey:Not in a way that gets them laughing really hard compared to in high school, the Volkswagen bug. All my friends are stone and I'm doing an impression of the water polo coach and I'm winding it down for 10 minutes. I've never gotten people to laugh that hard with them. Well, why do dogs look out the window when they're driving? What are they thinking? What are they thinking? I guess I can run really fast now. I have been at dinner or lunch. I start to say something about the butter being hard. And someone always goes, is this your act? Yeah. And I go, yes. Leaning in is good. So I was going to ask you, like, when we talked to you last time, this is like an exclamation point in podcasting.
6:58Dana Carvey:you said people want really, really kind of personal confessional stuff and you did your special and now you're still out there doing stand-up have you evolved into another style or you loved it I've retreated back I've retreated back away from the personal stuff I was not rewarded enough for sharing that's true mayday, mayday, mayday pull back no Emmy nomination uh you know medium response so i just was like let's go back to broad characters separated from self observations about nothing to do with me let's put that wall back up let's build up that's a podcast high five like why you know because the people they still we got to go back to square one it is you want to make them helpless with laughter right ultimately yes you don't want to be like a science you know high school science teacher or something or you know that but there was that there were great comedians hannah gatsby and so forth they're doing more of a one-man show rest in power rest in power to hannah now gone these now many years yes yes rest in power what does that mean i like it that's i don't know some at some point there became an alt on rest in peace that became Rest in Power.
8:18Dana Carvey:Oh, Rest in Power. That's great. That's my new special. I say instead of right on, I say left on. I don't know what it means. But I always see you as especially gifted at being balls out funny. Like aggressively, rhythmically, loudly, extra funny. So we got a real crossfire here with Spain. Yeah, I'm the other side. Well, David has his own genius. Here's what I did last night, Nick, for being personal. Because my mom fell and she's got this huge bruise in her face. And I go, my mom, poor mom, you know, when they get older and now. She falls straight down like building seven now. She doesn't even put her hands out.
9:02It's like borderline political. But they all kind of booed me. And I'm like, don't think of the 9-11 part of that. Think of my poor mom. Right. That's what you. So you feel like you went personal and they rejected it simply because you made a 9-11 joke. Yeah, and I say back to goofy jokes because you can't handle it. You can't handle it. I mean, you did do a full hour on 9-11. I feel like you did. I said 9-11, conspiracy or reality? What does that mean? I go, I don't know. It sounds kind of hooky. Do you guys want to hear my old 9-11 joke? Yeah, of course. Of course. The lesson from 9-11. what was it show up late to work yeah don't be afraid to don't go like that one guy
9:53Dana Carvey:9-11 is nickname at 7-11 so it doesn't seem so dark and more twisted 7-11 almost got caught in the crossfire because it was too close yeah it was like what'd you say oh 7-11 oh but you know I heard building three was already dynamited before. Dynamited. We got an expert here. The laziest conspiracy theorist. Yeah. I saw they had a couple of guys with plungers walking around like this. But I will say that I did tell someone that they go, this young lady is really big on 9-11. So if you want to talk, she gets into it. So I said, oh, something like, oh, did you not think the planes caused the explosions or you thought it was already set up with dynamite?
10:45And she goes, oh, you thought there were planes? I go, oh, my God, we're going back a step. There's no plane? She's like, that's so funny. You probably thought that, though. I go, I did. Yeah.
11:01Dana Carvey:I go, what else is it? She goes, mirrors. Literally thought those were digital copies. You could do that now with AI, no problem. AI covers anything now. Dude, AI did it. AI did 9-11. Fuck yeah. Dude, and that's what we're not talking about. And that's what we're finally talking about. Everyone's scared. We're not. I want to tell you about the moment, because I think we talked about it last time, where you were like next level funny. Please. Like went to this thing that really made me laugh hard. and it was just, I think I was doing Trump. We were at the Largo. Yeah. And then I was Trump talking to Kim Jong-un.
11:40Dana Carvey:And then you got in this thing of like, maybe it kind of turns him on. So you're doing like, oh, you're doing like Kim Jong-un kind of being flirty and sort of being turned on by Trump's attacks. Sure. It was very quick and aggressively committed to. So anyway, that's all I got. Thank you. Well, I appreciate that. I think, so we're all done now. I think we've covered, we got it. We got all the stuff out of the way. Does it look like we're done? Yeah, we done? Are you kidding? Notes, guy. Good Lord. I saw this breaking news. You've done too much. We can't cover you. There's too many shows, too much stuff.
12:15Too much stuff. Can we, can I, I can't help but say I see something in the studio chat that feels like something here. Oh, breaking news or something?
12:24Dana Carvey:Oh, Taylor Swift and Travis the football guy are engaged What a good news, man Well, the football guy Is Tom Brokaw? Travis Taylor and the football guy Taylor Swift and the football guy are engaged today First comes love, then comes marriage How do we finish that one? You know what? Nice timing Where's the Epstein list? there we go nice distraction taylor yeah yeah taylor holding on he's gonna come out of witness protection and jeffrey's gonna marry them because he's in witness protection by the way i thought they were engaged sort of already but you know if this was a year ago i would have been more shocked but it feels like time right right well and this is breaking news because this podcast will come out in like a week.
13:18Six months. Yeah, so like... Oh, it's coming out Thursday? When people listen to this on Thursday, it's Tuesday. Nick cut the line.
13:27Dana Carvey:They'll know we're hearing this for the first time. We're not... We don't have bits planned. Where were you when you heard this? I was here. So what's your blink on it? Yeah, go. What's your blink on it? I think it's a great day for white America. I'll say that first of all. Why are we calling racial? Who's white? And I will say, I watched Happy Gilmore 2. And I saw Travis Kelsey. He's shirtless in it. And my take was like, he's got like 1950s movie star body. You know what I mean? It's not like definition. It's just sort of, it's like a strong big man. Yeah. It's like Charlton Heston kind of.
14:11Dana Carvey:Yes. And he had that kind of haircut too. Yeah. Yeah Yeah Listen it was all working for me Yeah right Yeah That's I like any guy from any era Well let's just That's a nice That's sweet of you Yeah That's your take on the Travis That's what I walked away with Yeah I thought Happy Gilmore took place in the 50s I didn't even understand What happened Yeah I missed the 50s guys With their shirts off That was different Fonzie Fonzie never took his shirt off If you guys didn't know I want to do a love quiz for you guys. Okay. All right. Okay. Taylor and Travis. Okay. She is not a huge pop star, does not have a billion dollars.
14:59Dana Carvey:He is not a superstar football player, doesn't do TV commercials, but they meet in a small town and have the chemistry. Do they get married? For sure. Yeah. Yeah. They wouldn't have waited this long. Yeah. No, they would have been married. They would have been married like eight or nine years ago. They would have been teetering. Yeah. They would have squanked out two kids and they would be teetering. They would be teetering on divorce. And definitely some local town affair has a having troubles. Yeah. Yes. Some grumbles and some whispers. Engaged in 2011. The marriage happens a year later and there's a baby two weeks after that.
15:40Right. So they listen. what is the what kind of brand deals is the kid going to get oh that's exciting that's a good question to think about yeah that is a good question you guys should ask someone that on the podcast I'm going to start buying like possible names I'm panicking I just keep trying to push off of what the brand deal is for the baby I just want to buy the TikTok and make them buy it off me or something well I wonder yeah you should get So we have to guess what the kid's name's going to be. Travis and Taylor.
16:15Dana Carvey:And does Oprah go to the wedding? Does Oprah go to the wedding? Does Prince Harry go to the wedding? Does Prince, the artist formerly known as, go to the wedding? Rest in power. Rest in Prince. Rest in power. Does Prince Harry go and Meghan doesn't? Because she's got another wedding that weekend. Does Meghan call him Prince? Maybe Megan is stuck in the jam Like you know Winnie the Pooh She sucks jam I take that one back I don't get it I get it Megan Markle's pantsless walking around Santa Barbara Holding a honey Like a jam jar Selling it on the median Yeah Selling it in Santa Barbara In the middle of the median Down by the little village yeah wondering if Schwarzenegger is going to stop to buy some jam and Dana what would that sound like what kinds do you have do you have strawberry you have raspberry my favorite is huckleberry jam why isn't your favorite because I like the way my voice sounds when I see huckleberry huckleberry a lot of people don't carry Huckleberry.
17:37Dana Carvey:My favorite Tom Sawyer story. And the Taylor and the Travis that, you know, he's the football player. I love when he states, obviously. Oh, he's talking about current events now. She's like the box star and they get married and the baby goes on tour. Goes on tour. And the football game's in the box seats. Yeah, like Blue Ivy. The baby's going to be out there. Megan, where he huge noise cancelling it all to the game and code play I love you doing it more than me doing it because you don't even just like really chew on it you know you don't even know what he's saying anymore yeah sounds too many decibels the baby's microphone popping too much volume.
18:37Dana Carvey:The babies can have long blonde hair in the muscles of the football guy. 1950s baby body. The calves of Taylor Swift. The calves will be kind of puny. But the quads will be like... I'll buy the baby's carry on. The big eyebrows of Travis. Slightly receding in the corners. Slightly, but not totally. Still attractive. Yeah. The biggest lips of Taylor.
19:15Dana Carvey:The Deltoids will be a little bit like me because, you know, I get around sometimes. Everybody knows about the extra baby. I made one baby with the housekeeper. Everybody goes crazy. Are we still talking about this kid? What are we talking about? Fuck this fucking extra baby I had. Yeah, let me tell you something. That's what he says before he talks. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you. You know, I can't tell you. You know what? I was a big hit. Football was a big hit? Is that your name? Wasn't the name of his show? Oh, yeah. That's his show, yeah. Fubar was a big hit all over the world.
19:59Dana Carvey:It's canceled. Two seasons. Yeah, but two seasons. We felt two seasons. Two seasons. Read it and weep. We got out like Seinfeld on top. Sorry, Fred Armisen. Two seasons. Why Fred Armisen? Yeah. Yeah. You think you're so special, Fred Armisen, with your eight seasons of Portland here. Two seasons of Fubour. Yeah. Read it and weep. Now go make a sketch with Bill Hader. Yeah. And then call me. I'll tell you if it's funny. You spelled Portland wrong and no one noticed. Nobody noticed. Go to your well-observed documentary parodies. Fred Armisen would be later. Two seasons. Fortune Fimster. Fubar. Netflix.
20:45Around the world. Our decision.
20:48Dana Carvey:Fortune Fimster. My greatest reference so far on this podcast. Is what? He pulls out Fortune Fimster. Fortune's in Fubar. She's on Fubar. She was in Fubar. Spent a lot of time together in Toronto. You'd really laugh and mix it up She does bits but she can also Relate at dinner And two minutes later Drama acting Have you made a fortune fortune She would laugh so hard At my guffard attempts She's in my fortune 500 I could create guffard In the makeup room And say hey fortune Maybe you need some more rouge She would fall out of a makeup chair and crawl into a little baby curl. Two seconds later, I'm strapped to a tank.
21:42And this is also a goof-ah.
21:44Dana Carvey:A goof-ah. Here's more goof-ah for you than casual observations. There's nothing I can't do. I was the governor and now I'm on stand-up goof-ahs all over the country. It's me, fortune climester, Tom Papa making bread. Follow me with a camera. I'm a real clip farm. It's a guffa. Guffa along. Yeah. People can sing to the measure of guffas that come out of the orifices of the audience. They call me Guffar Gaddafi. Because I'm killing him all the time. Is that his name? What are you doing? what's the show what is show we're here to promote adults I'm here I guess guys this is a real reach for all of us adults came out months ago they said do you want to come back and do Dana I'm glad you came back absolutely we can talk about adults the TV show let's talk about that first why not you guys have watched all 8 So let's talk Episode 5 Or 6 Yes, that's when Chloe has a Crisis with her boyfriend You did, okay, so Yes, Chloe, so close, it's so fair To just assume one of the characters' name is Chloe Crisis Chloe's in a crisis, but Zoe Okay There is an episode that Julia Fox did, she did Chicken Dinner Yeah, see you just know shows by who you've someone if a guest star has either you've slept with or jerked off to a guest star you've you know that episode is that fair to say she was that movie rocks uncut jams is a real nail biter but here's my question for you and this is all about adults and fx yeah how the fai yuck does everyone get access to shows because we go around with our friends going hey see anything on live streaming that's a good show yeah you know uh seeing anything because it's like so much content so that's the task so yes the show's great how do we get people to watch it yeah how do you get off the ground um i think in this case you know it's a show about kids in their early 20s in new york and we cast really incredibly funny cast in their 40s.
24:22They're all in their 40s. Like Greece. Yeah. They're all in their late 40s. They're English, playing 22-year-olds. It's so funny. It is so funny how you watch old movies, too, and you're like, that person... I remember watching Jimmy Stewart. I didn't mean to do this, but I'm realizing I'm doing it. He's supposed to be playing an early 30s bachelor. You're like, you're... you're maybe 55 at this point. No one questioned anything. And what would that sound like if Jimmy Stewart was living in an apartment with a bunch of people in her early 20s? I know, Danny, you didn't fight on this yet. I know.
25:06Dana Carvey:I didn't want to be too greedy. Well, what are you all up to today? Let's go to the park. What are we doing here? I'm 27 years of age. I don't want to live. I want to do things. We're going to do some TikTok videos today, Jimmy. We're putting some content online. Come on, that shit again? Let's go to the coffee bean. What the fuck is a TikTok? Central Perk. That's what they called your dick, a tic-tac. Jimmy Stewart was 47 in It's a Wonderful Life when he played kind of a college kid in the beginning of the movie. Yeah. Makeup's a joke. The past, movies in the past are a fucking joke. A joke. Pull them.
25:51Dana Carvey:And all the people that made them are pricks and jokes. Rest in pricks, you fucking schmucks. There you go. Hey, guess what? Yeah. Analog television was pretty sweet visually to people. When I first went on Johnny Carson, because I only see him on a blurry analog television, I was like, holy shit, this guy's had a couple of cocktails and got some sun. Yes. I was like, right. I won't do that one. Sorry, I set my show up Nick Krohn is our guest He's got a show called Adults on a network Called FX, Ed, did you hear of X, Ed? I guess it's Nick, I have a quiz for you You played Gunther In Sing And who played Rosita?
26:38Whoa, hard-hitting questions, Jesus, I was not ready For this Do you guys know, I mean, what's Amazing right now is I am Genuinely blanking on now the name I found Reese Witherspoon It was Reese Witherspoon? Yeah, it's Reese Witherspoon And did you sing with her or did you do it separately? We, you know, I just kept saying let's get in the booth together let's just find the character together One booth A small booth
27:07Dana Carvey:People are never together with those things We did a lot of Big Mouth together early on before the pandemic and you can feel, you really do feel the difference when you're recording together I would say. Definitely. But I, no, we sang separately. We sing, speaking of the newly engaged Taylor Swift. You sang Taylor Swift in the one I saw. Yeah. I sing Shake It Off. Yeah. That's a good one. Lovely autotune. I find it easier to sing in character than I do as myself. Do you guys know what I'm saying? Yes. I didn't know it was you when I clicked on it. I was like, I don't know if this is him. And it was you.
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27:46Dana Carvey:I stay up too late I can only sing like Neil Young Do you think you'll sing at the Wedding or whatever Will you sing at Neil Young's funeral Yeah that's what I was getting at Hey hey my my No you just say hey hey bye bye And then you walk away Hey man Daryl Hannah and Neil Young Sitting in a tree They're looking at this news going Copycats Do you think that he's bringing her something like a morning ambrosia and finding out that Taylor and Travis are engaged? Are they not engaged? Hannah and... No, they're married I believe. Oh, they are? And do you think they're up in a tree? So how much are they going to chat about it today?
28:36Yeah.
28:36Dana Carvey:They have houses sort of around the continent, so they take Neil's motorhome and they just drop... Let's go to Toronto. And they drive across the country. Yeah. But she's got to get into a water tank before too long, right? Because of Splash. That's not. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. You know what? I don't know for sure if she does it. This is one of our records. I knew immediately what you were going for. I like Splash. She was great in that movie. What a great movie. For Christ's sakes, Tommy Hanks killed it in that one. Hey, have you seen PTA's new movie? Because Maya is in Big Mouth. Yes. I love the.
29:15Thank you for connecting the dots for me. I have not. I've seen the trailer. I can't fucking wait. Have you seen it? Everything looks cool. What movie?
29:24Dana Carvey:Did you say? What is the name of it? Paul Thomas Anderson's movie. It's like, don't fucking stop. Oh, yeah. It's called like Never Not Moving. I can't remember. Leonardo Decapitated is DiCaprio is in that, right? He always gets everybody cool in it, whoever he wants. Yep. And then it's cool. And he's got, who else is in that? Maya is in Big Mouth Maya plays my mom in Big Mouth and also the Hormone Monstress and a lot of other characters and is has won now like four or five Emmys for that character yeah yeah what about your character she's an Emmy magnet that one she will and ironically that Big Mouth playing that Connie character was her first Emmy which is crazy oh shit before SNL before winning for SNL Kamala her Kamala as that we went on by the end.
30:16Dana Carvey:It was like just spectacular. Yeah, it's it's she's a score machine. She is. She's a critic proof. Critic proof home run hitter. Non-stop funny. Too bad. Too bad PTA can't direct his way out of a fucking cardboard box. He couldn't direct a colony of ants to a melting Hershey bar. He couldn't direct an old lady out of traffic. Jesus Christ, he couldn't direct a cop who's directing traffic to a place where there's even more traffic. All right. He couldn't direct. No longer cooks. He couldn't direct himself out of a paper bag if someone put him in one and need the directions to get out of it. I love it.
31:07Dana Carvey:I loved it. I loved every minute of it. He's a genius. I wanted to just say this because this is the final season of big mouth and it's out now. And it's like everything else. You got to whip the PR thing because people forget. Yeah. It's sort of never been anything done like it. Goddamn right. Funny. Filthy. Let's do a cartoon about kids going through puberty. Oh, okay. We'll make it G. No, let's go right at it. Let's go right at it. And so was there any, did they, like when you pitched it to Netflix or how did it come about? And when they knew that you were going to go adult with it, and yet it's a, it's sort of, it's charming on a kid level too.
31:50Dana Carvey:And I want you to go ahead. Thank you. Well, I love that. Kids love it. Well, what was, we made it for ourselves. It was not originally, we didn't think of it as something that like weirdly that kids would, we really making it for our people to make us laugh and our friends laugh. and it was it and they really let us go i'll say what i you were talking about streaming and how people watch stuff what i will say is we got in making netflix at a big mouth at netflix at a very specific moment in time we were like the 33rd show that they made or something like that and they didn't have a lot and they were really trying to make their name they really let us do anything we wanted and constantly encouraged us to push because they were in a moment where they They were like, we need to make waves and we're in this new form and format.
32:39So just go nuts. They never stopped us from doing anything. I mean, a few jokes that we were like, fair enough, like truly disgusting things.
32:47Dana Carvey:I was going to ask you if there were things where someone or even you guys said, ah, maybe that's too much. Yeah, we definitely had like that. You know, there are different stages when you're making an animation where you've got like your radio play, you're hearing it, then eventually an animatic, like where it's a black and white sort of rough cut of what it's gonna look like. And then the color. So sometimes you don't know until color when like a hormone monster is pulling a tiny thermometer out of a sick little dick. And there a little bit of blood spurts out of the sick little hormone monster's dick.
33:19That when, when you see that you agree with Netflix, that maybe that is a little too much for air. But was, was Ted surrounded us in the room when you pitched this Phil, He was not in that room, but he was very aware and very, and he was at the season eight finale. He came and was sitting right behind me. And it was like hearing him laugh like that's the thing with Ted. When you're when we were pitching the show, Ted really is like a comedy fan. Like he loves it. Oh, super fan. And so when he so when you like when we were like, this is what we want to do. He was like all in and and and there was nothing else.
34:00There were no other streamers. so like we were, we really got to come out, got to do whatever we want. And there was so other little competition that we really were able to make a splash, uh, similar to Daryl Hannah, uh, eating up. You know what else I think about from splash is her eating the lobster with the shell on. That's the other thing that always sticks with me when I think about splash. Why would she eat another sea animal? That's what's fucked up about the movie. Really fucked up.
34:28Dana Carvey:Yeah. And that was fucking Ron Howard, right? Ron Howard went in there With his fucking happy day vibes And ruined the fucking mermaid movie Mr. Smiles And meanwhile You never even seen the Fonz dick Once on that show Hey, Daryl, shove that lobster in your puss Just for one take Let's see if it works We won't even use it Look at Henry Winkler I got him to put one of the lobster claws up his butt The other one's clipped onto the front of his balls he's still saying a test it on happy days not so fucking happy alright so enough with the jingles alright Gary Marshall go do some other fucking show go make another show and maybe even I did a short a funny or die sketch I don't want to name drop but I did a funny or die sketch with Penny Marshall and it was I was going to do Laverne and Shirley next because that's where we're going But I want to hear your story.
35:30Dana Carvey:You did a thing with Penny Marshall. I'm doing a thing, a funnier die sketch with Penny Marshall. And we're in a garage in Larchmont, Hancock Park, in Holding. And she's just still smoking cigarettes in a closed garage. And I fucking loved it. And what would that sound like, Dana? I don't know. Penny Marshall. Action. I don't know what we should do. I'm doing Gary Shanling. Sorry. God rest both their souls. Rest in the fifth dimension. But anyway, whatever. You know, what are we doing? Oh, Splash, eating the thing. Yeah. Anyway, so back to Big Mouth. And let's go back quickly. I'm just going to keep this moving around.
36:14Let's go back to adults. It's on FX. It's on FX, but then it goes to Hulu. Where everybody's watching it is. Oh, really? It's on Hulu. I didn't know they had a kind of a. Yeah, FX to Hulu. So you watch, um, and, and that really, I will say, so we have these young kids in the show. It really required social media to like embrace it, to watch. And, and it really did work on social media, like the, like kids on Tik TOK and Instagram, all those people were like watching it, but it's, what's hard is it's not clear that they're watching the entire show. If not just watching clips and sharing like the relationships that are sort of happening.
36:54And And then the actors who were playing them, their social media followings, and then like communicating about the show integrated with the people playing it. It's not like, you know, when we were when you when we were all making, you know, like Green Acres or, you know, the Andy Griffith show. Like when the three of us met doing Andy Griffith and Don Knotts sort of welcomed us in.
37:20Dana Carvey:Well when Adam West Invited us to do the Batman Episode With Catwoman That was something else Do you know That when I used to I think we were doing Coneheads Oh my god thanks a couple of you remember When we were doing Coneheads the movie Of course Wait a minute I just want to make an observation Their names were Coneheads Didn't you feel like their heads were shaped like cones in a way I went halfway through. I go, wait, is this on purpose? Is it? I'm connecting to that. You know what I mean? I don't know. Connie Conehead was the daughter. Just so you know. Also. Oh, yeah. Dan. Were you in? Sorry.
37:59You're in Coneheads, David. Yeah. Yes. I'm pushing it. That's why I'm on the podcast.
38:04Dana Carvey:Well, you're pushing it. They couldn't afford me. They couldn't afford me. They couldn't get you. So they got spayed. You know, it's funny. I was teamed up with Michael McKeon and he is our next guest. but on the show but Michael McKeon was great they have a Spinal Tap 2 coming out yes and so many people from SNL this is a side note I don't think Dana was but I would say it was like Sandler Farley played Connie Conant's boyfriend there was Aykroyd Jane Curtin obviously Lorraine Newman and then random like Sinbad Phil Hartman Ellen DeGeneres there were so many people that had parts in Conant's still managed to bomb but the point was Dan Aykroyd said at one point what about me and you doing Andy Griffith's show as a movie you can be Barney I'd be Andy and I was like that's such a funny idea I could see you doing that can you do Barney 5 can you do it I keep doing it how great was Don Knotts in the Andy Griffith show and Mr.
39:11Furley
39:12Dana Carvey:I have to be honest I know him more as Mr. Furley than I do. Which was still a home run. Oh my God. Horny dork. The ultimate horny dork. But what about the guy before him? The old guy that goes mmm. And his wife always wanted to fuck him. Mr. Roper. Yeah, Mr. Roper and his wife was always horny and a moo moo. And Roper just like now looking back like, oh. Just like closeted married. But I remember seeing the graduate and being like what the like it was one of the first times that i was like the fuck is mr roper doing in the graduate oh yeah yeah right what was he doing then he was i think kind of collecting rent yeah right he's sort of the landlord he's the rent guy when dustin hoffman he's the landlord of everyone in the church to get the wife up up up to get the wife but i sort of liked another brilliant movie that really holds up when i'm a kid and horny i'm annoyed that Mr.
40:11Roper, I'm like, dude, she's throwing you vibes. Yeah, get out of here. Like, I'm horny. Someone do something. Yeah, and Mr. Roper shows up to collect the rent. Now you're blue-balled. You can't even finish. I finish when Roper walks in. You shoot ropes. Jesus, what does this mean? Oh, it's hard. Shooting ropes to Mr. Roper. What is that, a line from your perverted show? Ropes of blood.
40:36Dana Carvey:That would have been on Big Mouth or something. Yeah, that's sick show. I think you do it for a pet. I like that sick comedy. Yeah, you do it for adults and then kids go, hey, hey, oh, look what we found. This show that's funny as shit. They like that. I saw Life of Brian as a kid. I'm like, oh, this is for adult. I like it. That was what, and I mean, that's the, we didn't quite realize with Big Mouth that that was going to be like, you know, South Park for a bunch of people. It was like the thing you sneak away to watch or Life of Brian. What was the thing in Life of Brian that you remember feeling like?
41:07Just that it was a little dirtier and I snuck in and then I was like, oh shit. there's fucking boobs in here and a lot of different stuff and just some of the jokes i didn't get later but it was like you feel like you're seeing something you shouldn't like uh
41:18Dana Carvey:totally i saw straw dogs with dustin hoffman when i was like 13 that i i wish i'd not seen it what i don't even know what it is really straw dogs yeah i watched hot dog the movie i had an older brother show me hot dog the movie when i was like six or seven and was like and i was like my uncle showed me that was an r-rated cartoon or what no r-rate it was an r-rated like ski movie it was that kind of okay one of those ski movies yeah hot dog was a big deal that was fun okay yeah like i was a girl getting out of a hot tub and you can see her boobs and every four minutes there was some girl in the tight t there was no comedy at all it's just like wait for boobs wait well you know on my generation we had a little thing i'd like to call rachel Kel Welch.
42:04What a killer she was. What do you got? Yeah. Stunner.
42:07Dana Carvey:When you were like 16, you know, who was the sex symbol of the day? Farrah? Man or woman? I don't know. Sure, sure. Thank you. Thank you for that. Thank you, Dana. For me, it was Travis. Travis Kelsey? Trey was Travis. Yeah. It was Travis Kelsey. 16. He was one years old. I had Farrah, but that was earlier than him. For me, when I was like 13, like there's a period of time where I'm watching you guys on Saturday Night Live and like Cindy Crawford is breaking. And that was sort of like the two things that like were my sexual awakening were like Cindy Crawford in a Pepsi commercial and Dana Carvey doing Ross Perot.
42:52Dana Carvey:I know. And I can do Ross Perot having sex for you. Yeah, please. Can I finish? Can I finish one time Can I finish Can't let me finish I can't finish Can I finish right now Dude this episode was chock full of shit That was something he would just say When Larry King would interrupt him But I made it into a sexual Did you Did you do Larry King Did you do Larry King Yeah after a while the town sounded like Illnesses creeping rash Minnesota you're on with Ross can I finish one time Larry you're gonna interrupt me no they were great did you guys ever do that Larry King show that his like Larry King now produced by like Russian television did you guys ever do that I was invited and I was gonna go on and he passed away I just kind of had a lot of fondness for him but I went on his regular show and he was you would show up before him he'd come in like two minutes before air they put the air piece in because he didn't he wanted to be just in the moment And then he just starts asking questions He was very skilled I think I went on once with Norm But I also think that when he walked in He goes, who are these guys?
44:07That's Norm MacDonald, David Spade What do they do? Alright, I'll just make up some shit
44:12Dana Carvey:We're on the air, we're live So you're doing the show You are killing it in whatever your job Ho fungus Missouri You're on with Norm MacDonald Look out, Mountain Yeah Ask Crack Wyoming, go ahead Anything else for this guy, we've covered it all We've covered, really, we did cover Adults, we did cover Big Mouth Big Mouth revolutionary show I've got adults, we've got Let's see, let's think about some other stuff That I can promote We've promoted Sing enough, right? History of the World Part 1 is still out History of the World Part 2 is out History of the World Part 1, also out somewhere They're out somewhere The producers, I have no involvement but the original movie, The Producers, let's promote that, Mel Brooks.
44:57That's probably my favorite first Mel Brooks movie. Coneheads, we talked about. Let's promote Coneheads. Coneheads. Coming out on Laserdisc.
45:07Dana Carvey:Splash, splash. Let's not forget it. On Amazon for a buck 99. On Apple TV. Let's talk, what about Ackroyd's? Ackroyd's one of his alien shows. Let's promote that. Oh, yeah. Let's get the word out. All right, sir. Fair enough, sir. Skull Vodka. Skull Vodka. Skull Vodka. Let's get the word out first. So vodka is the best thing you can get. You know, let's promote the chiefs new season, the chiefs, Travis, Kelsey's football team, the chiefs, uh, Taylor's got a new album coming. Taylor's got a new album coming out. Um, of course, happy days available wherever you're get your. Hey, I didn't want to reveal this, but I'm just going to say it guys.
45:45Dana Carvey:Um, I don't, I'm not as, but I'm personal friends with Taylor and Travis. So I just want to be sincere for a second and say, please write on, guys. You're a great match and I wish you all the best. I do too. I think I'm excited for them. You heard it here first. Three days after it's breaking. Yep. Ever since I got that news, I feel like I've been off. What's that? When I heard that news, now I feel like I fell out of the podcast. I've just been thinking about that. You felt in the pocket to me, David. But honestly, if this is a movie, because we've all seen a star is born in the different incarnations.
46:23Dana Carvey:So What happens is he's a football player. He's going to be in the Hall of Fame. Blows out in a key. He's not going to play too much longer. Right. And then he's at home like, hey, you want to play some ping pong? And she's in Malaysia playing the country. They built a stadium. Doing a residency. So she's playing the entire country. A country residency. He wants five babies. She wants to tour on five continents. Yeah. So it's kind of like two stars. they're going to have to get some premarital therapy, I think. Yeah, it's like what would happen if they had been the small town versions of themselves.
47:00Eight or nine years in, there's going to be some issues, but they figure it out. Taylor could do the bodyguard, by the way. She'd be good for the remake. I mean, Travis could play her bodyguard. Yeah, I know.
47:09Dana Carvey:Nick Kroll's been our guest today. It was delightful. We did... Thank you, Nick. We did it all. 28 minutes of trading Arnold impressions. That was a good one. Can I tell you just quickly how weird it is To try to do Arnold with you David I jumped in there David's is great Everyone has an Arnold The code is broken No one's worried about accuracy It's too fun, you gotta jump in It was so fun I love seeing you guys I love your comedy, I love doing your podcast Thanks for having me We're glad you're well Good luck with your next show I'm wondering if you're going to direct a movie or do another live streaming show or whatever.
47:50Dana Carvey:You're going to do whatever you want. I'm doing Coneheads 2. I'm directing Coneheads 2. I'm writing it right now. Writing and directing Coneheads 2. Okay, because I have a rough draft of Coneheads 3, so it'd be nice if I could see 2. I will show you. I will send it to you. As soon as we're done with a first cut, I'll send it to you, okay? Okay. All right, I'm going to put the top down. I'm doing one set in Alaska called The Snow Cone Kids. I'm going to Alaska this week for a gig. there we go i processed that fucking last second promo did you know by the way get uh drowned or no was did you know there was like worried that there was going to be flooding did i know okay for real oh juno the city um yes i don't know i know i'm going to palmer it's outside Juno The drunk guy is doing Ill-informed Topical bit Juno Juno's underwater Did you know that Juno's underwater Where won't you go to do a stand-up set Dude I'm going I have to do an hour It's not Juno You've seen the movie Juno but still going on in the background.
49:07Do you know that the movie Juno was...
49:10Dana Carvey:Ask me, Nick, what I'm going to do today. Juno was filmed in Juno? Juno. Ask me what I'm going to do today. I'll answer it with Napoleon Dynamite. What are you going to do today? Whatever I want. God. God, there we go. I love that guy. This has been chock full of... I love that movie. Impression. All right, I'm leaving. Bye, Nick. Thanks, guys. Bye, guys. Okay, well, that was Nick. He's out now, But I got always a crack up, man. I love that. I like when someone comes on, they want to screw off. They're not so locked into the questions. It's just like, let's go off on so many tangents. We don't even know what we're talking about.
49:46Dana Carvey:Yeah, that was comedy ping pong. And it was just fun. It was, you know, we all got into this Arnold fest. And they give him a point. Normally, it's like, okay, one minute. This is enough. But I love that he just kept going. And then you chimed in. And then I went. And I don't know how long we went, but that might be kind of close to a record for one riff on one impression between three people on our podcast. Yeah, it's fun to, because I can't remember everything because it goes so fast, but I just remember we keep, it was, he sort of gives the green light to don't worry about what we're talking about.
50:21Let's go off on any tangent we want just to crack up.
50:24Dana Carvey:And, you know, we've done things like that a lot too, where we were doing Senator John Kennedy once for like 10 minutes. Yeah. So it is very much like what comedians do in real life. For sure. That's like a green room talk. Yeah, get into a rhythm and then someone sort of tops you or does something to change a little bit and then it makes you come back. And then it's, so that was really, that was really fun. You kind of forget. It gets insane. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we want to thank Nick Kroll. And obviously you can see him on what we talked about. There's Big Mouth. There's all the stuff. so adults on fx and hulu that's it yep and we'll see you guys next time and uh give us your questions and uh that's it thanks for watching hey guys if you're loving this podcast which you are be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app give us review five-star rating and maybe even share an episode that you've loved with a friend if you're watching this episode on YouTube, please subscribe.
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Dana and David welcome back Nick Kroll for a whirlwind of laughs and impressions. They take turns with a spirited debate on 9/11 conspiracies, plus breaking “news” of Taylor Swift’s engagement—including burning questions about whether Oprah and Meghan Markle will attend the wedding, baby names, and brand deals. The trio then break into a barrage of Arnold Schwarzenegger impressions, reimagine Jimmy Stewart as a TikTok star, and even manage to promote ALL of Nick’s projects—from Adults to Big Mouth to Sing.
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