RE-RELEASE - Chloe Fineman

6:08Dana Carvey:Yeah, I went to college here. So I've been here in the West Village for like over almost 20 years.

6:16Chloe Fineman:That wasn't on your research, was it? Okay. My first 20 minutes, I got to tear off. No, no, no.

6:25Dana Carvey:Yeah, I went to school here. So I've been here since I was like 18. I'm 35. Okay. Yeah.

6:33Chloe Fineman:And did you ever walk by Rockefeller Center? You knew that's where SNL was and kind of go, huh?

6:39Dana Carvey:I had a really exhausted roommate who was an intern. She was like a page and she was so tired, but so happy. That was the only knowledge of it. I went to like drama school, so I thought I would do like Shakespeare.

6:58Chloe Fineman:I never thought I would. Can you give us a little Shakespeare? What's the ultimate Shakespeare? Robin Williams did a lot of, he was doing Shakespearean stuff. And he always had one leftover Shakespearean thing. He wouldn't use the mic, but he was just being Rob Williams. Oh, look, the moon, it hangs low like a testicle in the sky. Like that was, he did that a thousand times. A little bit of a hybrid. Uh-huh. Yeah. Is this a dagger I see before?

7:24Dana Carvey:I guess, is this a penis I see before me? Come, let me clutch thee. Here we go.

7:30Chloe Fineman:Oh, not too hard. Oh, it's a common problem. If the mic went down, Rob would always go, oh, common problem. him he had so many we love him but um so what else do you want to talk about sarah sherman

7:43Dana Carvey:oh we know your little doofy buddy sarah yeah my little freakazoid pal how is uh i want to ask you

7:51David Spade:that you did the paramount she hit me up and said we're doing the paramount after you and i was like look at these girls within minutes they're doing the same theater i'm doing after i've been sweating and slugging it away for 50 ,000 years. And then I think it probably sounded like fun, but how does that happen with you two? And then what do you do?

8:11Dana Carvey:That's a good, you know, we're very different, but it works. Yeah, two, I think we're, obviously Sarah's like extremely disgusting and nauseating. And there was like a 30 minute slideshow of like a vagina prosthetic. that louie was mad at her that he didn't get to make and it is so disgusting and then i come out and i do my impressions but i make them orgasms so it's like i guess it's like a rated x yeah yeah

8:43David Spade:i try and it's an after dark kind of show you have your crossover audience from snl and so it's more potent and then it would be like me and dana going out it's like people that like it go oh if they like one they'll take the other or they like you both you know that's always fun and it sounds like it's a very intriguing show that i would see for sure i think it sounds just fun because i don't know what it is right so people just want to go because you're both good and

9:09Chloe Fineman:you're both funny so that's and also your personas we're just meeting you now which is fun and sarah yeah it's uh is sort of sweet i don't know or like you're you're not like kind of you know and then when it then when you're working blue it has this energy to you i don't expect

9:25Dana Carvey:two nice little jewish perverts coming out

9:33David Spade:yeah it was good yeah i saw what when we did chloe the um i used to work at the show too when we did the um uh whatever sandler's tour and then she was on with me yeah it was so funny because i didn't know her at all and then she was actually super easy to talk to super fun she's a magnetic personality because she's very sweet. And then she gets out. I don't interact at all. They're just like, New York! Where's my New Yorker? Sticks the mic out and they kind of go, eh, there's a couple here. Alright, what about that pizza? How about the garbage? And now they've stopped applauding. What about abortions?

10:11David Spade:What about that? And she goes on for another 19 times around the side going, and now I love it because she doesn't give a fat fuck at all. She did a lot of chilling abortion material in in Texas yeah big abortion chunk it was great that's all that's you gotta follow it I'd be backstage going I'm up there going should I do 7-eleven

10:36Chloe Fineman:and McDonald's if you're orgasming as your impressions which are really stout yeah I want to hear a few of those by the way which one just to get the call which one kills the hardest

10:46Dana Carvey:it's one that they eat up you know it's different it's different every place um i've been doing it for years i'm always like god this is so hack but you know not everyone's i'd say like drew barrymore starts strong they're they all they all do pretty good and then i think i do way too many than i should people get and then they're kind of like laughing just to be nice in texas the ted

11:10David Spade:Cruise orgasm does better.

11:13Dana Carvey:Yeah. Yeah, there's like some old, like an old Melania Trump one. I do them all. I just do them all.

11:19David Spade:Oh, you do? Do you do Melania?

11:22Dana Carvey:Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Of course.

11:24David Spade:Did I say it right?

11:25Dana Carvey:I think so. Melania? Melania.

11:29David Spade:Melania. Close enough. Melania.

11:31Dana Carvey:Yeah.

11:31David Spade:I know what we're talking about. And do you do, I've seen you do men. is it harder or is it is there any difficulty to do men i can do like beautiful boys i think like

11:45Dana Carvey:a boyish a beautiful boyish man is much easier real real men um no i think they're so hard harry styles i remember like doing in front of harry styles at the show and i bombed so badly horrible horse was it on air was it no no no and and like he was like looking at me in disgust but yeah doing it and i and i most of the men i do i happen to do it in front of them

12:14David Spade:god you just get them delivered to your front door timothy chalamet is kind of

12:19Chloe Fineman:your i mean he's he's so huge right now yeah the only one who yeah there's doesn't there it is

12:25Dana Carvey:yeah yeah but he's nice about it you can tell it's i don't know i'm like a lot older than i just feel like this like weird older woman just like obsessed with these little boys he's very kind about it um but it's hard not to i don't know if you have this where you like slip into the slip into the voice when you're around the person no because you're sort of mimicking you're picking it up as you go probably yeah and they give you all these get like yeah he was totally totally

12:54Chloe Fineman:dame is great at that well uh we're you know sister brother from another mother yeah with your timothy uh you yeah you find you find these rhythms and hooks and then they really help you get in it's like what's that sound you just made as timothy so like wow yeah it was like

13:14Dana Carvey:listening to a lot of interview this was like before he became huge i i started working on him And it was like, you know, growing up in New York, uh-huh. You're growing up in New York as an actor. And it kind of like rhythm literally goes like that. And then he laughs. Yeah, and that's it. Yeah.

13:32David Spade:Just like a 19-year-old billionaire. He's like the most famous guy. They don't give a shit. That's why it doesn't get bad.

13:39Chloe Fineman:You're in that mold where you're accurate, but you're also an abstractionist. You're making it into a character.

13:46Dana Carvey:I tried to. I think that's like after you're like Lauren will talk about other people, you know, I don't know if he does that to you where he talks about other people to, to, to kind of have you lean insight into yourself. And he'd always talk about you or Fred not being having a take. Yeah. Not being like, so it's not like a biopic, right?

14:11David Spade:It's just sort of a, it's, it's only, it's probably going to get laughs. Sorry, it's probably going to get laughs meanwhile i'm the guy that doesn't do impressions but it gets more laughs when i watch you were dana you do do an impression you just did i say you're a little

14:25Dana Carvey:yeah but i say you're lord i say you're a little lord god damn i thought how long did it take you before you had a lorne like day one or yeah honey as i think as soon as i sat across the first time i met him i was like this is never leaving um the first thing he asked when you have to like meet him he was i'm from the bay area and he was like are your parents hippies and then that was

14:53David Spade:i like when he talks nothing about like you're auditioning for the show come in come in wait five hours then you come in he's like do you like baseball you're like what it's just something nothing about show business or anything i just like to get a feel he told me once i go lauren I'm looking for an apartment. What are you up to, David? He's totally bored with nothing else to do. David, come in. And I'm like, oh. And then he goes, sit down. I'll make some calls. And then he goes, when he's done with the calls, he goes, what's going on with you? Basically, like, are you still on the show? So I go, yeah, yeah.

15:28David Spade:And I go, yeah, I'm looking for an apartment, but I'm a little torn because one's like upper west side and one's like lower upper west side. But one was a little more expensive. And he goes, it's important where you live. I know.

15:44Chloe Fineman:Right. I think it's more of the price point.

15:46Dana Carvey:Yes. Wait. The thing he said to me, which is why I'm always like, which is why we're trying to do these Paramount shows as much as possible. He was like, you always want to live in a place you can't quite afford.

15:59David Spade:Oh, it's very close to what he said to me. Exactly. It's very important. So money's not a problem. And I'm like, is it though? I think it is.

16:09Chloe Fineman:yeah do you have you been in uh like okay you're on 8-h and lauren's office is on the ninth floor and there's glass i'm painting a picture for the listeners and then you see the rehearsal down there and you're up there hanging out with him talking about something and then in his own incredible lauren way you know be like kevin's going through that you know it's the second season and where is this, you know, he psychoanalyzes, not in a very sweet way, not mean, but you always wonder what he says about you when you're down there.

16:42Dana Carvey:I'm so terrified. I have very close friends who are writers on the show and they just will not tell me. And I know it's awful and would like never get out of my head.

16:54David Spade:What Chloe's, she's kind of stuck in a, and you're like, what?

16:59Dana Carvey:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But then I feel like when he talks about other people And maybe it's that crazy making But you're like is he trying to say something about me You know where it's like well show and show If you're doing the same thing you did in your first year In your fifth year it's time to go You know and you're hard not to be like

17:21David Spade:Yeah it's hard to take it constructively and move on

17:24Chloe Fineman:Yeah I remember one time he said to me Anything new or are you pretty much played out? I don't know what it was.

17:34David Spade:Did Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. have another baby? There might be another third one to do.

17:39Chloe Fineman:Yeah, and it does kind of scare you. I mean, this is in the 80s, early 90s. I'd worry about the show because he'd get me worried. And I'm like, it's summertime. And I'm like, he's worried. And you're also killing on the show. I hope the show does well. Yeah. But it's remarkably the same.

17:53David Spade:Chloe, I have one he told me. This is the last thing we'll talk about. He said, he goes, I see you on a lot of talk shows. I go, mm-hmm. He goes, anything to add to that? And he goes, well, they can't miss you if you don't go away. Ooh, that's a good one, though.

18:15Dana Carvey:That's a lot of talk shows. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, hey, no.

18:19David Spade:It's like doing commercials. And I think he was saying in general with celebrities, do a movie, lay low. That was actually the old school now.

18:27Dana Carvey:Yeah.

18:28David Spade:Now it's podcast and shit. But, you know, just go away. But that doesn't work anymore. You can't go away. There's no way to do it.

18:35Chloe Fineman:You know, David, people keep asking about my 2026 resolutions. Yes, they do. I've been one of them.

18:42David Spade:I know what you're trying to say. The people keep asking about your 2026 resolutions. And I've got the usual ones.

18:49Chloe Fineman:Read more or read it all.

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19:24Chloe Fineman:some i would really want to get back into running honestly for sure i do a lot of hiking yeah they're

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19:46Chloe Fineman:Great idea.

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20:46David Spade:back to chloe's back to chloe we like her like a foul i'm trying to

20:53Dana Carvey:oh chloe what's a pea fowl gosh that was a peacock yeah yeah it's like uh maybe that was my first impression yeah we had a bird calling contest at my weird high school uh and then we were flown and went on david letterman when i was like 15 fucking sweet and he was kind of dirty yeah yeah he said or we were dirty we didn't know we were we said something about like feeling your inner bird but you were like these like 15 year old girls it was weird but it was on tv and was that dirty i don't know he was like whoa

21:30Chloe Fineman:uh i think i saw that you saw her doing her pee foul yeah i mean i remember the bird call thing and it sound just do it again because it's reminiscent i must say

21:45it was

21:47Dana Carvey:you have to get up no no the way they do it in the high school is like yeah you kind of put on like sketch it's like you do bird sketch you you like develop a skin right my friend and i did like some like arsenic and old like i don't know we're these two old british ladies and then and then the bird call happens. And so the people who win the bird calling contest, ultimately, I feel like, have not hellishly bad sketch comedy.

22:17David Spade:That's great. You know, I do one. Watch this. This is birds in the morning.

22:24Chloe Fineman:God, I'm not hitting the high one. Wait, your sound went out. You do really quiet birds. It's beautiful. I play it.

22:31David Spade:Wait, what's the other one? Oh, here's a bird flying away. Ready?

22:37Dana Carvey:you know i could fit right in to your high school no you totally the easiest one was someone if you like grab your throat for turkey it's like

22:49that's like one that's early first year yeah when you're when you're a little kid and you're uh

22:56Chloe Fineman:you're seeing people on tv doing what you're doing now do you remember that feeling of and then you're actually doing it it's kind of cool i mean did you i'm trying to think of your age group like who blew your mind when you were 10 well we i mean you you guys certainly did we

23:12Dana Carvey:had uh i'm older so we had vhs like the best of vhs tapes that i watched my reruns yeah no no they were like compilation yeah vhs's and my best friend had all of them and we'd stay up and watch them all the time as kids and then when i was like in high school that was like the kristin will will era but i've been watching it since i was like i have a video of me as a toddler in berkeley and the cone heads are playing in the background you know it's just forever love the cone and was your dad an actor or my dad is a is an improv guy no he's in biotech oh but i just thought maybe he's insane my mom is a painter and my dad uh when my mom was pregnant with my sister would take me to improv at fort mason in san francisco and there were a lot of like a robin williams friends and uh her her and and i would go to this class with rob schneider would take this drop-in class yeah and then i would do it as a little kid and then he uh retired like, I don't know, 10 years ago.

24:29Dana Carvey:Now he goes twice a week. Once on Saturday in San Francisco and then in Marin and Mill Valley on Wednesdays with my mom.

24:37David Spade:Nice.

24:38Dana Carvey:Mill Valley?

24:39David Spade:Yeah. Schneider's from Half Moon. I have a house there.

24:45Dana Carvey:Okay. I believe you and I might have at one point had the same doctor in Mill Valley.

24:50David Spade:Whoa. He would show you the other guy's x-rays.

24:55Dana Carvey:I'll bring it up offline I don't know I had a weird doctor Who claimed to like Do you or do your Doctor stuff

25:04David Spade:Oh really you should see here's some clips Of Dana's colonoscopy

25:08Chloe Fineman:I have a doctor I still have an MD In San Francisco Is this boring you David

25:17Dana Carvey:I'm sorry

25:20David Spade:No it is but Dana also So when he calls in for his prescriptions, his secretary goes, oh, no, I need your address.

25:30Chloe Fineman:Well, no, I call in for the same prescription every 30 days. She's very sweet. You want to do what? Oh, yeah, I need the same one I did last month. Oh, I'm going to have to talk to the doctor. And then 30 days later, hi, it's Dana, same prescription, same pharmacy.

25:52David Spade:So awesome. Oh, you want to do what? Well, don't a lot of people call for prescriptions? Oh, yes. Wait, I have a Chloe question.

26:06Chloe Fineman:Yeah. Well, I have more of my nurse impression. I love it.

26:13David Spade:She goes, oh, she's confused. Oh, you have a question for our guests? Well, first of all, she's into fashion. I wonder if this green pops on zoom.

26:22Dana Carvey:Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay.

26:24David Spade:That's, that's one.

26:25Dana Carvey:Definitely.

26:26David Spade:And, uh, that's from someone who has an Instagram where there's like always like, it's funny to see you go from Siri, funny Chloe. Then you're like serious, like knockout, like, like I should show blue seal.

26:38Dana Carvey:That's good. Um, I won't bore you with that,

26:41David Spade:but also Nicole Kidman, I did a comment on one of yours Instagrams because the way you say no is so funny and I was trying to relive it with letters but how is the proper way to say no

26:52Dana Carvey:it's kind of N-A-R I think it's like N-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-A-A-A-E-E-E-E-R-R-R

27:03Chloe Fineman:no no no no it's so funny I mean do you do you try to do these impressions or do they sometimes just come to you like you do you seek out okay i'm gonna do a nicole kidman sometimes at snl it helps if you're assigned someone and you're like okay i gotta try to learn it yeah no one else does

27:25Dana Carvey:nicole kidman or is anyone else not really i feel like i feel like most of my keith urban yeah yeah you cornered the market i think i i have weird taste i just like i don't know I auditioned with Meryl Streep Greta Gerwig I just really like

27:44David Spade:Greta Gerwig

27:47Dana Carvey:That's a new one That was the only thing he laughed at in my audition I heard him chuckle

27:52Chloe Fineman:What was your take on her? It's just like

27:55Dana Carvey:Oh yes She talks in these little Shapes and gestures You know Yeah Yeah.

28:06Chloe Fineman:That's funny if you didn't even know who it was. But it is the episode.

28:13Dana Carvey:I just remember, it's usually like, I get inspired, I guess, when people win awards. There's like them on talk shows you get a lot, but I think when someone's having an emotional thing happen, I guess like winning an Oscar, I just find it so funny. Like Greta Gerwig was like, Hey, yes, yes, this woman, yes, yes. Like they're hyperventilating. That's how I got my, Frances McDormand was like, okay, I'm hyperventilating, okay. You know, like inclusion writer. But like she had a hyperventilating, I don't know. That's usually when they come to me. I don't really seek them out. It just makes me laugh so hard.

28:49Chloe Fineman:About award shows and what you're talking about. Does it feel like sometimes they'll win the Oscar, like Frances McDormand, and then they'll come up and they're exactly the character. Like she's this tough, you know, kind of alpha woman. And sometimes maybe to win an Oscar, you just go super far away from the character so that when you get up there, you're like talking like this or you're playing some street hood or something. Just an observation, go. This is like every acting class I was ever in. You're crying, you're alone, you're Italian, go. Go, go. Yeah, she's in. I want to fan out on some of these okay we've already done those which I love Reese Witherspoon which is like just a sound kind of

29:39Dana Carvey:it was like I was watching her on Oprah and the way she said Oprah made me look like Oprah and she was like I'm a murderer the way she said murder like really it's like it's like I guess I do Everything is ultimately a bird call, I realize. Yeah, really. Yeah, kind of how I sound.

30:12Chloe Fineman:Jennifer Coolidge is just so interesting. You do that, right?

30:18Dana Carvey:You must.

30:20David Spade:No, I don't. Dana froze. Did I freeze? Keep going, Chloe.

30:25Dana Carvey:Almost in a Jennifer Coolidge way. You can go.

30:30David Spade:Yeah.

30:30Dana Carvey:Oh, I mean, everyone I know has been doing that impression since we were like 10.

30:37David Spade:Because we love American Pie. Oh, that's right. Yeah. But Lauren likes Greta Gerwig because I think when you come on SNL, I only had one impression. But if you come on and do something that hasn't.

30:51Dana Carvey:Been done.

30:52David Spade:Yeah, like walking at this point. But to do early walking was great. I didn't do it. But when you saw, we saw him, I think Jay Moore, there was some back in the day, I'm like, oh my God, because you don't see it. And then you see it and you go, oh, it's so clear.

31:06Dana Carvey:Totally.

31:06David Spade:It's good to find those. And so if you see somebody new, that's great.

31:10Dana Carvey:Yeah. I also find, I think it was when I was like auditioning, there were, it was like, don't do Drew Barrymore. Don't do Jennifer Coolidge. Don't do Christopher Walken. Just stay away. But then I ended up doing Drew Barrymore just because I thought mine was really good. i was like yeah but uh but i i do think that that's fun and if i see people do like god i saw someone do like rosamund pike the other day and i was like that's awesome like that it's

31:39Chloe Fineman:exciting you know yeah because it's not someone who's overexposed so then you really have to go oh then you go oh that's it you know totally it is fun yeah i'm lazy i find it hard i find it if I make a goal of doing an impression, it's kind of, it's, it's kind of a bad feeling when you first start and you don't have it at all. And you just do it to yourself in a room and you have no, you're horrible. I can't do it at all. It's really a weird, how do you do it? You just, what's your process? Sorry.

32:10Dana Carvey:It's, it's that, no, it's totally that. I mean, I remember, and now I feel like once you've done enough of them, I feel like in a weird way, they all sound the same. And so you're like, I'm not good anymore.

32:22David Spade:you're starting with the same voice your own voice and it's hard to make it so different every time yeah it was easy when i was like alone in la like chalamet was really bad at first but i had like

32:33Dana Carvey:the luxury just kind of being like sad and alone in my hot apartment with no air conditioning i don't know like that was yeah easy and then i was doing stuff at ucb and the groundlings at the time And the worst one I've ever done and I still can't get it was Lena Dunham. It was like for a UCB show. And I think it was like, if they sound a little too close to your own, to my voice, it's like, I can't, my brain just like doesn't know what to do.

33:01David Spade:Right. Also, I don't think people, maybe they know when they're listening, but a lot of it is also not just you. It's a writer knocking at your door at like 1 a.m. on Tuesday going, hey, can you do a Sydney Sweeney? because we got you doing a machine you're like oh oh tomorrow okay and then you just have to kind of go all right i gotta find something and then a funny wig and then you know things could help it a little bit but totally you've gotta uh you gotta be ready when you get assigned someone in

33:27Dana Carvey:a sketch i do feel like if i'm really stuck laughs are such an in oh yeah mouth the way their mouth what their mouth is doing and their laughs anyway that was that your mouth can move around a lot

33:42Chloe Fineman:No, I just find it interesting. Like you're, uh, okay. So you do all these impressions and ever, everybody knows it. And then you're doing characters and you kind of, in a way, you don't want to be couched as like people today. It doesn't really matter to me at this point. Oh, you're the impressionist guy. Well, I go, what about church lady Garth and Hans and Franz? They go, Oh, so, you know, inventing Chloe, just you as an actress. Oh, this is my new character. You want to do what? I'm going to have to talk to Lorne. But I just thought inventing Chloe was such a cool and Piper Dunster. And I feel like someone who has an ear and can do these things can also, of course, do all these other things.

34:34Chloe Fineman:It's just, it's on demand on Saturday Night Live. There's a lot of demand for celebrity impressions. so yeah for someone it's biggest payoff talent yeah i feel like all of us kind of you know you

34:46Dana Carvey:like find the thing that you can get on the show in your first year or two sarah disgusting uh me sarah's like prosthetics brilliant and then i was like impressions and then you know you're like okay this is like my life raft um but now that i'm in my fifth year like i don't really done that many this year i don't know it's it's nice that we can stretch ourselves like keep coming up

35:09David Spade:yeah you go there's like guys nobody do a six foot tall vagina this week because i'm doing okay is that like an update thing yeah but sarah's like sarah's done like amazing characters

35:22Dana Carvey:this year and like these awesome pre-tapes and i kind of really focused on pre-tapes for like back like last year and the year before that was like the thing and i've done a lot more live i don't know it's cool you can really like stretch yourself what was the character you did a pre-tape

35:37David Spade:with during COVID where you had a short blonde wig and then you let you played both parts yeah and then you were and she was living with you and then you had to film did you have to do

35:47Dana Carvey:that all yourself or not yeah yeah yeah my boyfriend filming yeah he was in the other room uh working on a quiddy show wanting to absolutely murder me the whole time r.i.p

36:05David Spade:are you drinking hairspray what is that

36:09Chloe Fineman:okay a water bottle i have a notion i don't know what it is but i i i when i think of you as an actress and wanting to really commit there's something in my head here that it's you and sarah probably presentational like some sort of science uh symposium to high school kids or something and there's little volcanoes and goo and Sarah starts to make sexual innuendos and you're just get really really mad like you accelerate to I will fuck you up you know basically without saying that if you do that one we take her aside yeah I just think you letting go with that kind of anchor on anger that's a great idea doing or maybe it's a science you write it yourself but just the rhythm of that i see you it's great so funny in that character we were talking with

37:00Dana Carvey:no that's really we we want to go again like when it was sarah's first year and we got the please don't the pdd boys to stay up till like five in the morning writing this sketch where we were like we were kids we were sisters who had come home trick-or-treating we were covered in chocolate like on a sugar high and it was jason sudeikis and him and heidi were like realizing they were going through a divorce and we kept like interrupting being like i don't know and it was the hardest bomb ever the pdd guys were like that's the worst sketch we've ever done and she and i haven't written since we haven't done anything like it's so really yeah we gotta get over we realized that in austin like i haven't written with the pdd since this candy thing

37:48David Spade:it's like really you bought yourself a year can you get eye contact in the hallway oh yeah

37:53Dana Carvey:we like love each other i just was like god and it was so long ago i think everyone's forgotten but sometimes when you when you bomb that badly it's like hard to recover a bit

38:05David Spade:well what if you did science fair and you're in high school this is more of a sketch because it's a dryer oh she goes it's like the volcano is is coming and then you go can i talk to you for a second same kind of thing no what what do you want to see you escalating getting angry you

38:21Chloe Fineman:know like hair a frizzy wig and i will i just feel like yeah basically i don't know

38:29David Spade:do the pd guys write their own stuff work no they take your suggestions um no they yeah they work

38:39Dana Carvey:they work really well with the cast um and then they do their own stuff jake so there's a couple one for them oh no no they don't never do that although there's a writer jake nordwind who he pitched something to them and it didn't it didn't go but you know they're open to i there's a lot of like today's monday so when i get to work everyone will be in mike decenzo and jake's office or pdd's office and they all kind of like give each other ideas in a way right who's the host who's those Dua Lipa oh nice yeah where's the music Dua Lipa

39:22David Spade:who's going to be in most of the sketches there's a lot of doubles lately I don't know if I love it

39:30Dana Carvey:there's a lot of duas get it that was so bad yep I'm going to do it all week

39:35Chloe Fineman:I used to be a licensed therapist oh I didn't know that so what are you you're five years in you're doing great on the show you have all your buddies there you're in the trenches with everybody yeah um what's your what is your headspace like are you feeling like because some people like Eddie Murphy day one they're like at a 10 as far as comfort there in your fifth season are you're feeling good excited or you're still like where are you at right where you at where you at

40:08Dana Carvey:uh i mean we only have three shows left so i definitely and it's 80 degrees in new york so it's definitely that like senior vibe i also think yeah summer you're right it's a little bit there's also i remember uh there's like those life rafts you need in a year you know like you need enough things to hit to feel like you're not getting fired i still i mean because i knew people in their fifth year who did get let go you know so it's it never goes away it's a common feeling yeah and i think now i'm kind of like well so-and-so needs a like making sure enough people need wins although that's just what other writers have said they're like i'm not gonna write

40:45David Spade:with they say wins i don't even heard that wins you know just something that they make their mark

40:50Dana Carvey:really no it makes sense hits yeah they were like you've had a good you had a good run you've had a

40:56David Spade:A couple of doubles, but not a home run lately.

40:58Dana Carvey:Yeah. Yeah. They're like, I need to help. Cause when you reach out to writers, like I need that, I'll try and help you with this, but I need to help so-and-so get a hit.

41:08David Spade:It is hard to ask a writer. I would ask Smigel or I'd ask Conan and they're like, they're already busy with something. It's hard to go. It sucks. Hey, I have a knock, knock. I have a dog shit idea. That's not formed at all.

41:19Dana Carvey:Yeah.

41:19David Spade:Did you spend three hours cracking the code with me to make it a C plus?

41:24Dana Carvey:Yeah. Yeah. we're busy no i have a lot of like i i don't know i i'm not as like brazen about right like i'm like i have to have i hate wasting their time and like i'm the most nervous on the show just in terms of like letting writers down and the fears that they won't want to work with me again because that is like the only way to survive the show and so i yeah i don't really care about if the sketch, I guess I only care about like, well, these people help me write it. And if they cut it, those people aren't going to write with me again. You know? So like that is a big part of it. And, and having enough of, yeah, yeah.

42:02Dana Carvey:And, and it is that thing of like, I can waste this writer's time for like two hours trying to crack my horrible idea or I can just like wispy idea suffer alone until I somehow have an idea. I've gotten better with that. I don't like suffocate writers to help me as i don't know if i don't have something i'll be like i'm gonna i'm just gonna sleep on this and not like ruin someone's i don't want to ruin relationships

42:29Chloe Fineman:you just gave me a sense memory of like tuesday night at 2 a.m i know sick and you're in a room with a writer and everyone's just like this yeah and the idea is the souffle is just deflated it's just like yeah five minutes of no talking and then like what if maybe if farley could come in

42:53Dana Carvey:um you know fall through the ceiling and save it yeah that's no one's no one is laughing everyone's like bloodshot eyes and it's like well keenan could enter keenan's are yeah yeah 100 yeah right

43:09Chloe Fineman:Right. Keenan is so articulate and so clear and has such a strong voice. And he has like a mischievous vibe about him. Like he's not breaking, but you clearly see he's enjoying it. By the way, I just want to ask you.

43:23David Spade:He really held together that Beavis and Butthead.

43:24Chloe Fineman:I was going to ask you that, the Beavis and Butthead, because I know you came in at the end, I think. Yeah. And so I thought because Ryan Gosling is such a huge star in his attitude, he's kind of breaking the whole show, but it's so entertaining. Yeah. So because people, but that's kind of a famous show and now a famous sketch of the most broken. So just speak from your point.

43:52Dana Carvey:I mean, it was well for Mikey. None of us knew that's what even when we were.

44:00David Spade:Oh, really? That's what I thought. They escalated it, right?

44:04Dana Carvey:We knew. Yeah. Like when we blocked it on Thursday, everyone was laughing just because of the lines that Ryan and Mikey have are so stupid. Like, I think Ryan has a line. Yeah. Where he's like, I actually have a really busy life. Like that would always make my feeling.

44:18David Spade:Yeah.

44:19Dana Carvey:The dumbest line ever.

44:21David Spade:And you think he's not talking to him? He's like, this guy over here?

44:24Dana Carvey:Yeah, and then they ad-libbed on Thursday Or maybe it was Friday when we were blocking They're like, I don't know this Hi, John, nice to meet you That was added But yeah, Mikey just looked so Fucking dumb It was shocking

44:40Chloe Fineman:What was the difference in his makeup Because everyone had seen it at dress

44:45Dana Carvey:Yeah, we all saw it at dress I think it was just It was like this

44:50David Spade:he just changed it up a few percentage points he just made himself like 20 percent dumber

44:57Dana Carvey:it's all you need yeah and keenan never brought like keenan carried that like i don't think the steps would have worked as much if you didn't have keenan doing that to the point where like yeah by the time it got to me i was like i can't like super break it's annoying like yeah right

45:13Chloe Fineman:It was already, yeah, because. Did Heidi stop laughing? Heidi was already, that was yesterday.

45:19Dana Carvey:Yeah, yeah, I think so. I don't know. I'll see her today. I haven't seen her in two weeks. Yeah. But Heidi never breaks. That was what was so, like, delightful about it.

45:28Chloe Fineman:That was very adorable. And it was more than a break. It was laugh out loud. That was a gut laugh. It made me laugh. I think that thing has, like, 20 million views or something. I mean, it's really kind of a. It's awesome. Did Mike, yeah.

45:42Dana Carvey:Well, Mikey and Heidi have known each other forever. So I think it's also like two long time friends. I think she's, yeah, with a lot of love for each other. So it's like, it was so hard. Yeah, there's a lot of love behind that too.

45:57David Spade:It was just great. It was fun to see. Everyone looked funny in it. And then just seeing that. And then she really like got like, she can't stop, which is always fun to watch. Just a fun one. And Ryan Gosling is a huge star.

46:10Chloe Fineman:It's the construction of the writing of having Kenan be the voice of the audience. A stupid AI conversation. They look like that, that, that. And then the seriousness and back and forth. It's sort of just a really well. Yeah. It operated on all cylinders.

46:26Dana Carvey:It did. But I don't know if you know this, but like they have pitched that sketch so many times. I didn't know. Oh, really? Yeah. There is a Jonah Hill dress rehearsal. You can watch. Wow. Oh, yeah. this is like the third time maybe and they said the jonah hill one's like hilarious it just never like made it past the finish line so it was cool when air when it happened on air all these writers came down like streeter sidell was there watching it because i think he has taken

46:56David Spade:that thing to table like five times jeez whoa motivational speaker didn't get on right away that took a long time really and that's people would be shocked and actually the writer bob Bob Odenkirk had left and then we came back in the season and did it. That's a weird scenario.

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48:47Chloe Fineman:Have new cast members, which ones have come on since in the last five years so that you would be the wily veteran? Or you came in with Bowen and... Just Bowen. Shane. Oh, yeah, and Shane.

49:01Dana Carvey:Shane. Yeah.

49:02David Spade:Did you meet Shane when that happened or you never even got to meet him?

49:05Dana Carvey:No. no a part of me like no i i met him at like a one of those like lauren baseball games like two years later he was so sweet um can you get us some hot dogs chloe

49:17David Spade:what would you like what do you want relish chain you met him there he was there

49:23Dana Carvey:yeah at a baseball game like two years later yeah it was crazy oh two years later yeah yeah but bowen was a writer before i was so i really felt very new but bulla dan bulla and i

49:36David Spade:were the same year uh and then love dan bulla genius genius solid solid you came in as feature

49:46Dana Carvey:writer or just feature or cast cast i was just a name what no no feature cast cast feature player i think they call it a player yeah and then gosh who came after me uh then it was like andrew just me and i can't remember no no everyone was on the show yeah i do you're like i'm just trying to remember it was like me and bowen then i feel like it was punky andrew lauren hall then came the sarah jadge this guy aristotle year then yes then

50:26David Spade:they brought in a hundred people marcello uh michael devon and molly for who does the impressions and she's not there anymore melissa melissa yeah melissa was already there yeah yeah yeah she was

50:41Dana Carvey:like three years in when i started melissa had been there for four or five years i see her and

50:47David Spade:Marcello.

50:47Chloe Fineman:One thing that speaks to your ability is the understudy sketch where you did Melissa and you did Kate to them. That was kind of interesting. How did they take that?

51:01Dana Carvey:I was so scared, especially like, you know, I think we are all really close. But you know, when I started the show, like Kate had been on the show for like nine years and was a superstar, but is one of the loveliest weirdest i was about to be like down to earth and very down to earth but like paid i was like i think i'll get a kick out of it but like cecily i was really intimidated all those women i was so intimidated by but then it was sort of this like sweet cecily was like so into it which was shocking and kate was great um and i i was like it was the thing too when i had If you had a pre-tape, I'd written, actually with Dan Bulla, we wrote this murder show.

51:42Dana Carvey:And just getting those super seniors to be in your video was so hard. So I was shocked that they even were open to being in a pre-tape.

51:51Chloe Fineman:Can they turn it down? Super seniors.

51:52Dana Carvey:I've had things turned down. Yeah. What?

51:56David Spade:That was already approved?

51:59Dana Carvey:Of like -

52:00David Spade:Recast?

52:00Dana Carvey:Yeah, I've had that. Yeah, I wouldn't do that anymore. or yeah i'm not revealing anybody but you know but then well you have you how many of you turn kate has never kate was always in everything and that meant a lot to me i've never turned anything i love the pre-tapes i could be there for hours pre-tapes are tough i know do you do you don't

52:21David Spade:do when do you start that's my last question when do you start on pre-tapes because we used to only do them dana right after read through like on a wednesday or thursday wednesday thursday kind of yeah yeah because how do you know what's what's approved before ryan gosselin gets there do you

52:38Dana Carvey:get him working monday morning no well now they're doing these promos so like i have to shoot a promo

52:43David Spade:tomorrow where you walk around with a host or do yeah they're like can you do a dua libra impression

52:49Dana Carvey:i'm like no so i'll i'll do like i'll find some bird call version of her tonight so you literally

52:55Chloe Fineman:right now just for our listeners so you've been assigned this impression yeah and you have to have

53:01Dana Carvey:down by tomorrow and you don't have it right now she's british no i'm not like a like melissa was part of melissa's genius was she could do these singing and prep like lady gaga i cannot sing

53:14David Spade:with me yeah you'll have a funny wig you'll have an accent you're half way there yeah we'll be okay

53:21Dana Carvey:but otherwise yeah wednesday night you they pick your stuff hopefully and it's cool with the because usually you'll get an email like 15 minutes before the pics are out asking to zoom for your video so so it's really sick as hell to be like oh thank god like we did oh you know that's how you find out you got on yeah yeah email like a pilates video and it was like you got the

53:45David Spade:bing and we were like oh and then when is the next morning no then we then they have to build

53:52Dana Carvey:they build the set thursday and then we shoot it friday uh and then for like the under when it would be like a me-centric video that would be done sometimes they would pick it on wednesday but not really and they'd be like we're gonna do this next week but shoot it like on monday or we're gonna shoot it on tuesday and then the writers were so mad uh they inventing chloe we shot on thursday so that was the next day and we weren't thinking and it was when everyone was doing like rewrites i think and we had we wanted like seafood towers

54:31David Spade:so we basically like stunk up oh i saw that yeah 17 that looked expensive by the way really

54:37Dana Carvey:expensive it was really gross and like all the writers were like locked in the they were so mad

54:44David Spade:oh yeah that was yeah that rewrite table with jim downey was probably dating what 15 hours of oh just going over every goddamn sky and you weren't even in them or you wrote one you just go spade wake up you what do you got for me on this one you're like yeah what if this guy says yeah yeah that's that's a tough that was a tough job that day all right dana what else you have for lovely clothes do you have a question for us you're off the show this week there's no show this week no no i'm kidding i'm kidding okay so i think we'll do another hour unless you have something to do we can go into our second hour but no no no uh just say hello hello to the cast they're all

55:24Dana Carvey:brilliant it's the show's cooking uh yeah it is it really it's like found it but we've like

55:30David Spade:figured each other out a little bit more yeah i do think that sarah sherman the audience just keeps discovering yeah crazy sarah what did she say the sun has knockers oh yeah she was on our show she goes by the way just fyi audience dana and i i told her later i go we both found out later we didn't understand we didn't understand and we just laughed because it was so bananas but she said you know they're saying the earth is flat but i think the sun has big knockers i didn't connect that and then we did all these jokes about it and then later when i saw it on a clip i go

56:09Chloe Fineman:oh i get it i didn't even get it she i didn't hear the earth is flat so that was the thing that i

56:14David Spade:thought it was a non sequitur and i was like well why do i even say i'm in comedy i didn't get it i was so embarrassing she did a bit and we thought it was funny anyway because she was like you know how the sun has his big the sun has big knockers because she has a funny voice she has kind of a

56:32Chloe Fineman:She has a...

56:33Dana Carvey:Yeah.

56:34David Spade:But you can go walk to work now.

56:37Dana Carvey:I could actually today.

56:39David Spade:Or do you have a limo?

56:40Dana Carvey:No, no, no, no. I like the... I'm near Westworth, so it's like seven minutes. Five minutes on the train. Get out.

56:48Chloe Fineman:All right. Our last thing. We'll let you go. Do you have a fake pitch for the meeting today? Like... Or a real one? Yeah. Chloe, this little bit will be like... Chloe, anything? you're like hi do that's how you start yeah yeah hi do that um so over the break that's usually

57:08Dana Carvey:how it starts i'm gonna think so i'm the worst at it yeah mine are like weird everyone has their thing there is our sarah marcello kind of does this like uh so i was uh thinking that uh he does

57:22David Spade:like a chalamet like sexy baby thing i take i'll have it one way and then the pitch is so bad but then sometimes they do become sketches yeah they bite on the host doesn't know they bite on a fake

57:36Dana Carvey:pitch and you go uh-oh sydney sweeney i pitched her the hooters idea where i was like maybe work at hooters and we're counting tips i get twenty dollars and you made like you're like cool i made like forty thousand dollars and then she dm'd me to write it and then we got in so much trouble for like sexualizing it was so fucking funny but it was your pervert over here i know you perv that

58:02David Spade:was a good one that was very funny when you're counting your money stupid yeah that's stupid

58:07Chloe Fineman:some of that just silliness i think uh this is sort of i don't know just the way the world is all this madness and everything and just abstraction that's why beavis a butthead maybe it yeah it was hit so hard and yeah that's hooter sketch just i think we're in the mood for like

58:24Dana Carvey:just i know i think so i think the political client like we also like the it's you you can kind of touch it but not really it's like it's it's it's opened the the door for weird which i think is so nice weird like a really yeah yeah because i i'm not the smartest with the political

58:45Chloe Fineman:stuff so i don't know i do i do these little shorts for this just because if i do biden i feel like i'm doing something really nasty and wrong yeah so i kind of have to do it yeah yeah

58:57David Spade:people get so mad when there's so many trump jokes but i have done some silly little things

59:03Chloe Fineman:and people i don't know people seem to like that now i don't know what you call it abstract or

59:08Dana Carvey:weird i like that i i like that a lot but movies are like i was thinking that the sasquatch sunset set i don't know movies are weird everything's weird we're in the era age of weird you know

59:21David Spade:it's funny because there's a lot of superhero movies because i figured out that the bad guy can't be a certain race or religion so you make him just a monster and then no one gets mad well you know what i mean are you gonna be a transformer and they go think of it okay

59:36Chloe Fineman:The influence on entertainment is because of the trauma of Hiroshima and Japan. There was all this radioactive Godzilla movies and worse than. So it is an influence on whatever the Zaggeist or the emotional freak or the emotional temperature of the culture. Yeah, totally. So two people having fun, being really silly. And, you know, it's just great. So yeah, I'll be watching Saturday. Don't be nervous.

1:00:09Dana Carvey:Well, yeah.

1:00:09David Spade:Have fun, Chloe.

1:00:10Dana Carvey:Thanks, guys.

1:00:12David Spade:Chloe, thank you for doing a Zoom from the Kitsch, your new sketch.

1:00:15Dana Carvey:Hey, you're welcome. And I'm sorry about being so inept at this beautiful microphone. And at least I have.

1:00:22David Spade:You nailed it.

1:00:22Dana Carvey:I'm going to bring this to pitch. I'm going to just pitch with a loose mic. That would be so funny.

1:00:27David Spade:Just stand up.

1:00:28Dana Carvey:Hey, I actually think I might do that.

1:00:30David Spade:It's pretty funny.

1:00:32Dana Carvey:Loose mic.

1:00:33David Spade:Loose mic. Okay, Dua, can you hear me? She's like, yeah, I'm two feet away. Okay. So Chloe, so nice to meet you. Sometimes this doesn't work in here. So nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. Okay, Chloe, thank you, hon.

1:00:44Chloe Fineman:And I wish you all the best and keep having fun and say hello to anyone who would ever care. Anybody that loves you.

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