In short
Drew Barrymore discusses her career, hosting Saturday Night Live and her talk show, her approach to gender and ambition, and her recovery from alcohol; the episode also includes multiple ad reads.
Guests
Drew Barrymore (actor/producer; started acting as a child; hosted SNL six times; runs Flower Films; hosts The Drew Barrymore Show). Co-hosts: David Spade and Dana Carvey (comedians; discuss impressions, SNL, and their own experiences).
Key claims
- She says she never felt the “gender effect” because she had opportunities early and felt permission to check in with idols; she rejects “boss bitch/boss lady” framing.
- She describes her alcohol use as toxic and says she’s been sober for almost three years, calling it “the best breakup.”
- She frames her talk show’s “Drew’s News” as a source of hope during the pandemic, using comedy to find life-affirming stories.
- She says SNL is an “institution” that grows new “leaves” (new artists).
Notable examples
- Her SNL debut at age seven included a surprise chimpanzee.
- She traces alcohol’s role through childhood family history of consumption and alcoholism.
- She recounts developing 51st Dates with Adam Sandler after tracking the script to Happy Madison and rewriting it with a “women’s side/boys side” balance.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODrew Barrymore: A Beloved Star
0:15 to 0:52
Discussion about Drew Barrymore's career and their relationship.
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Drew Barrymore: A Beloved Star
0:58 to 2:04
Discussion about Drew Barrymore's career and their relationship.
“You know, David, their European linen pants and shirts are also total staple starting at just$34.”
Drew Barrymore: A Beloved Star
2:20 to 4:27
Discussion about Drew Barrymore's career and their relationship.
“This is a refreshing break with Snapple.”
Voice Impressions and Talent
4:27 to 7:33
Exploration of voice impressions and comedic talent in acting.
“Bill Hader has kind of a, his voice has a treble softness to it.”
The Journey of a Working Mom
7:33 to 14:00
Drew shares her experiences of balancing work and motherhood.
“Maybe maybe a hard question to ask more of an Oprah question or Larry King.”
Overcoming Gender Norms in Hollywood
14:00 to 16:49
Drew Barrymore shares her experiences in Hollywood and how gender norms never held her back.
“I feel like I had so much opportunity because of starting as a kid that the gender effect never had me.”
Influential Women in Film
16:50 to 17:46
Discussion on influential women in filmmaking, including E.T. and their impact.
“It sounds like you're hanging a pair of balls on you with a bitterness.”
Drew's SNL Experience
17:47 to 19:09
Drew reflects on her life-changing experiences on Saturday Night Live.
Drew's SNL Experience
20:27 to 21:18
Drew reflects on her life-changing experiences on Saturday Night Live.
“So you use a thing called Canva to make it an even bigger and better thing.”
Drew's Record on SNL
21:26 to 22:43
Drew discusses her record appearances on SNL and her experiences.
“For people who don't know it, you've hosted six times, which is a record for I'm tied right now.”
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Memorable Moments with Robin Williams
22:44 to 24:07
Drew shares her memories of hosting SNL and a surprise with Robin Williams.
“I was crying when I hosted and I'd done 200 shows.”
Personal Struggles with Alcohol
24:08 to 27:14
Drew opens up about her family history with alcohol and her own journey to sobriety.
“And I was in it and they all circle around me and I'm sad about something and they are rallying me up.”
Finding Balance in Life
27:15 to 30:00
Drew discusses how she managed her career and family life while overcoming challenges.
“Like, but I'm doing all this work, so I'm functioning.”
Growing Up in Comedy
30:00 to 32:10
Drew reflects on her childhood experiences in the comedy world and her early influences.
“I don't even ask people what their ages because I don't give a shit.”
The Role of Comedy in Healing
32:10 to 34:20
Drew and the hosts explore how comedy serves as a form of healing and resilience.
“Cause I, we have stories about Mitzi, you know?”
The Impact of SNL on Drew
34:20 to 36:40
Drew shares her thoughts on hosting SNL and its significance in her career.
“comedy meant to you and learning this in real time with you.”
Creating Joy Amidst Challenges
36:40 to 40:00
Drew discusses her approach to bringing positivity during difficult times, especially during the pandemic.
“And a couple examples are that when we launched the pandemic in 2020, it was a very scary time to find a voice.”
Drew Barrymore's Impressions and Collaborations
43:15 to 51:24
Drew discusses her experiences with impressions and collaborations with Jimmy Fallon and Adam Sandler.
“Like I have to study and like take it so seriously that I almost lose the freedom and the whimsy.”
The Creative Journey of 51st Dates
51:25 to 55:28
Drew shares the journey of making '51st Dates,' exploring themes and production challenges.
“And that's a gender stereotype that I just thought, Oh God, that's crazy.”
Reflections on Life and Joy
56:00 to 57:27
Explore the philosophical musings on life, joy, and suffering shared by the hosts and their guest.
“Thank you for everything that you've done.”
Transcript
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2:33Dana Carvey:Snapple Real Fact 455. Movie trailers used to come on at the end of the movies, but no one stuck around to watch them. I've heard that. Snapple Real Fact 831. Adults laugh only about 15 to 100 times a day, while preschoolers laugh an average of 300 times a day. Snapple Real Fact 1983. The first player drafted to play pro football never played in the league. That's interesting. Snapple Real Fact 1274. Kickball is referred to as soccer baseball in some parts of Canada. Hmm. So grab a Snapple. Take a second. Enjoy the moment. Because let's be honest, this might be the most refreshing part of your day.
3:17Snapple, make your break more interesting. Drew Barrymore. Drew. Drew Barrymore. universally loved very sweet um and i've known her since the old days right around wedding singers when i met her and we talk about that and i saw her out the other night and i never see her she's one of the ones i just never see perfectly sweet and lovely as you would think
3:46Dana Carvey:yeah she was when i saw her when we were vetting our friend adam sandler at the kennedy center honorees all right i just ran into her and um i'd seen some of her show and we'd had her on our podcast and i said you're really really good at this and she just paused and she's very sincere and her shoulders dropped and she said really you think so she's very vulnerable and sweet uh and uh we enjoyed talking to her one of our favorite podcasts is easy to talk to and goes anywhere you want her to go to. So I think this is a fun one. Here she is, Drew Barrymore.
4:27Dana Carvey:Bill Hader has kind of a, his voice has a treble softness to it. But then when he did Daniel Day-Lewis, it just went incredibly deep. So his range is like really kind of interesting because his talking voice is very sort of soft, you know, here. And we had a great time. And then he's like, but I totally... I like that I try to do Daniel A. Lewis and you guys both do it and I forgot. I used to do it like crazy. His was so great. I feel like at some point we'll just tell. I was going to say, yeah, if they said you were the best ever, I wouldn't slug him in the face. But there's 50 people that could be mentioned.
5:06Dana Carvey:It's just people love to have lists. Yeah. I don't want Maya Rudolph to go, what's going on? But he's definitely up there. Well, he just, it's kind of like Will Forte. That middle knots, that early 2010 or 12, whatever. Knots. Had a lot. Knots is the grossest. I know. Had a lot of talent. That's why I listed all of them. And I forgot Maya Rudolph. There's a lot of talent. Where's that lady? Oh, my God. You guys, I've been here the whole time screaming. It was on fucking mute. Oh. I didn't want to interrupt you. I was like, oh, I guess they're going and riffing. I'll just sit here. You thought we were ignoring you You were a fly on the wall I was listening in You were talking about Maya Rudolph and the nots Or the aughts or whatever we're calling them And I literally was like oh I guess when they're ready They'll invite me in But these are like the high class problems Of our current world You're on mute I can't Your screen is off This is the new verbiage for us But I actually have been sitting here waiting To jump into to the double dutch um literally i'm so excited that you guys would have me are you crazy i love both of you so much i'm in i'm double dutching with you right now and i'm loving my wife said oh drew so sweet she's so fun has so much energy and i go you think i don't know i'll tell you what happens but already yeah exactly what she promised well she's so kind she's definitely right about the energy part i'm a lot i'm like a lab labrador in heat i like the heat yeah yeah i've heard people say that yeah i am i but like with uh yeah well that was my go ahead no go ahead i like the heat but then i when i'm happy when i'm intense i think i'm a whole other metaphor but when i'm happy i'm like labrador and heat panting probably trying to grab your leg you know interesting well i read i read um some things about you last night and it was truly impressive and exhausting how much you packed in so i mean my god labrador and he i'm going and how young you are from where i'm perched it's like damn you got if where does that come from where does the where's the motor to do all this and then become a producer and now this and I don't know.
7:33Dana Carvey:I can't even. Maybe maybe a hard question to ask more of an Oprah question or Larry King. I love it. I'm like, I did not expect the how do you do it question. That's traditionally a woman to woman. Oh, well, yes. And a mom working mom. Yeah. Yeah. I like like that. You guys are asking it because we're real thinkers, Drew. Well, we love we love women, basically. I, and I love, and I love funny men. So this is a match made in heaven. Um, I, I, I do it by burning the candle at both ends. Uh, I actually I'm here editing our next issue of a magazine, um, that we're making. And I, um, I, I think about, it's weird.
8:26A lot of people will ask that question and I think I've been so passive about my answer because my humility wants to go no no no I don't do that much let me turn it back to you yes um and um lately I've been for this magazine um and trying to think of uh some content for it I've been looking at the how and the we not the how and the I but I think that it's really messy and I was brought up sort of we all lived in that world where we would see those articles where people were like 8 a.m I drink my coffee and I do this okay Mark Wahlberg 2 a.m 10 30 I do this you know and I I never lived that life and it seems so type a and unattainable and i was more the you never know where the day is going to take you whimsical or i will burn myself to a crisp and then i'll find that pocket of rest and wellness somewhere else uh so i don't i don't know how anyone does it and if they do it in an organized fashion, they have my deepest respect.
9:41And if they feel like it all feels like putting out fires and kind of burning yourself out and it's all like a higgledy piggledy mess and it's super comedic and there are chickens running through the frame and like rando funny shit is going on that feels so true, um, to our, to my experience. And, um, I would never preach to anyone that I have it together or that I'm a blueprint. I am just a work in progress. And so far I'm, I'm, I'm shocked, uh, in some ways that like, I am a relatively healthy person because I feel like I don't live a very healthy lifestyle.
10:31Dana Carvey:Jeez, and that's been Drew Barrymore today. We appreciate it. No, listen. That's amazing. Go ahead. I have a question. No one argues that she's busy. Her IMDb looks like a CVS receipt. And if you could see her Zoom, it looks like house and garden. Me and Dana look like we're in a bunker in Kabul. Yeah, we're in a bunker. Her place looks gorgeous. She looks fresh as a daisy. Yeah, fresh as a daisy, gorgeous. Oh, boy. Because I have hair and makeup because I'm at the show. And by the way, on my headstone, we'll for sure say death by inspo because I'll have inspired myself into the brain. Like, I can't even look at a woman's shoe without going, do you mind if I take a quick picture of that?
11:12Because that color tone would just be so great for the packaging on the next thing I'm making. Like, I cannot, I can't stop. and sometimes I feel like I wish I could just like have like quick temporary you know I I think that's probably why I drank so much back you know most of my what do you mean you had a problem shut it down I was like just shut up dude at seven you were like I can't take it anymore dude you know what yeah yeah at seven i was paying the rent and that's a lot of stress
11:52Dana Carvey:that that yeah a fairly uncommon thing for a human being in america to be uh paying the rent at seven true i can relate dana i didn't tell you this i was a child star too i when i was uh my dad was in advertising he was like a madman type of guy and when i was i was five i was pretty cute i had a good run from five to eight so when i was five really i never heard this my dad goes why don't you be in this like taco bell commercial that we're filming because they were part of it he goes they need some kids we'll throw you in we'll give you 10 bucks and i was like holy shit so they they put 10 one dollar bills out for me on my desk i probably got a thousand but they kept it you know and they go here's your 10 and then i and then they took nine of it and i go so you already took a cut i'm sure before behind before i saw it then i get 10 and then you go we'll hold it and i go wait is what's going on and then i had a dollar left my god they go go nuts you guys i was like i hear that i was still i didn't put down my waiter's apron till 23 and a half you You guys start right out of kindergarten.
13:07Dana Carvey:Kindergarten. What a head start. Can I ask you a question, Drew? Because you kind of talked about it. Like Reese Witherspoon, okay? She's another, like, how does she do all that? And I heard her kind of own it, like in the way men can sort of own it. Like, okay, get out of my way. I can do anything, basically. Is it difficult for you to have that gear? Because people would say, I'm nice. They'd say, you're nice. But, you know, where do you have that part of you that has a ego, like can kind of yourself, give yourself a pat on the back? I don't. So that's why you just keep going. Yeah. And I hate those.
13:46And I know Reese. So I, you know, she's just incredible that she is a good, like hot question mark of how the hell does she do it?
14:01I feel like I had so much opportunity because of starting as a kid that the gender effect never had me. It never had my attention. It was squandered early because I started working as a baby and kept working. So I never had the anything other than I could do all these things. And they're my opportunities to screw up or make something of. And there were men and women giving me those opportunities. I just wrote the forward to the new ET book because it's the 40th anniversary. And I was talking about Kathleen Kennedy and Melissa Matheson. You know, I saw women at work. So I just really didn't have that.
14:53I need to be aggressive or act like a man to get anything done. I always felt permission to check in with my idols, the Go-Go's and Pippi Longstocking, who were all girl all the time, but they did everything that boys did. And it became my ethos on making Charlie's Angels was why do women have to pretend to be men in order to look strong and capable? Because the truth is in my world, if I was kicking butt with my girlfriends, we would totally be talking about last night's date while taking the bad guy down. And bad guy could be again, bad guy or bad girl. I've never been affected. Luckily, I've not had the unfortunate ingenue treatment of being held back.
15:43Or as I started a production company at 19, and we was really in the era of the power suit woman, I was like intimidated by that and just felt like, screw it. I'm going to be a girl with my corduroys and my transport backpacks. And the work is going to speak for me. And no man has ever kept me down. They've only helped give me opportunities as women have. And I'm just, I'm a girl. And I, I think the one thing that's always stuck out for me about men first and foremost was that like a lot of my comedy influence when I was young came from men. There weren't a ton of female comedians. Um, there's so many more now.
16:27I feel like the playing field is so much more equal. So I identified men a lot with funny and that was a good thing. I didn't think of men as my bosses or anyone who was going to hold me back or I had to be like them. I've had fortunate liberation my entire life like that. And I hate boss bitch. I hate it. Boss lady. It sounds like you're hanging a pair of balls on you with a bitterness. And I don't like that because I don't have one bitter bone in my body. However, if people have to put, you know, metaphorical balls on or a cape or do any mechanism to empower themselves that I stand back and do not judge because everybody has their process of how they get to bravery.
17:19Mm-hmm. She has the best answers. I know. Oh, my God. They're unreal. Oh, David Spade, I love you so much. I mean, my God. We have to talk about SNL. By the way, back to E.T., to have two women that high up in the chain must have been nice back then. And they must have had an even keel about them because you look up to them and you don't see them. I mean, there is equal up there with everybody that are running a huge, huge movie. that's good that's a good influence early on and steven spielberg was flanked by these two women frank marshall was there but kathleen kennedy and melissa matheson and uh so that was just for our viewers melissa wrote it she was married to harrison ford at the time um they were very close uh they had the script for years they were making the indiana jones movies they were all a tight-knit group and um she had this script it was called a boy's life and um and yeah that's what et was called yeah it wasn't called et until after the film was made i guess maybe in marketing i'd have to ask it was called a little gross monster for a little bit i heard cute little alien
18:39okay good so as dana ask her a question on snl what are you doing i i know i'm i'm so i'm so
18:45Dana Carvey:i'm a little starstruck i'm starstruck too i'm fascinated by your life i i think it's so cool i'm starstruck by you guys i mean literally you're about to bring up snl and i i don't know where your question's going to go, but boy, did that show change my life in so many ways. But in no way did I participate the way that you guys have. Summer, what do you think about summer? Coming up. Sneaks up on me. Yeah, I know. It is coming up. I'm trying to juggle plans, juggle meals, and enjoy the weather. Instacart's made that easier. I can sit outside, build my car with everything you need for the week, not have to step away from what I'm doing.
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21:29Dana Carvey:For people who don't know it, you've hosted six times, which is a record for I'm tied right now. Tied with Candice Bergen? No. Nope, she's five. I think I'm tied with ScarJo, who I'm pretty sure is going to beat me because She's married to Colin, so she's got a fast track. We're going to book her for three a year. Oh yeah. And she makes, you know, big movies that are gonna, you know, I, I, I'm sure she's going to beat me and I love her so much. And we just did the show together. Um, and if anyone's going to beat it, but here's a record I do hold that. I, I think I will be, it will be bittersweet when it happens.
22:16Um, I am still the youngest in 1982 at seven years old. Yes. And that one's going to hurt. That's going to be a tough one. That's in really no danger. I don't know. I wonder, how has it not been taken? How the hell has that not happened? Well, because it's child abuse.
22:42Hey, kid, you're going to I can't even handle it. I was crying when I hosted and I'd done 200 shows. Yeah. You go back there and you're like, wait, what do I do?
22:50Dana Carvey:And the band's playing. It's terrifying. I'm 47 and I can't even. But was the monkey a surprise? Yes. Yes. The total surprise. It was a non sequitur for David. Yeah. Go ahead. Explain that. Tim Kazerinsky, who I had just an adorable crush on. I just thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. they didn't want me to have to deal with an opening monologue and they sort of addressed that in the monologue and they say instead we're going to do a Q &A with Tim and Drew weird to say your name and so he asked me questions on little index cards and I adorable And then at the end, he says, we have a surprise for you.
23:40And they bring out this monkey.
23:44Dana Carvey:Chimpanzee, yeah. I don't know what the point of it was other than to be the cutest thing and the most delightful surprise for anyone, let alone a seven-year-old girl. I remember so many different emotions. uh steven spielberg came and he's very much uh probably the only father figure i've really had in my life and he was very parental and uh on the show night he brought robin williams which scared me to death because i was so obsessed with robin williams and um that felt very intimidating uh to me and um who's blabbing yeah somebody's auditioning back there all right sorry um tell them you don't want to get spayed mad they're all right exactly um so um robin williams so robin williams um and it was such a weird mixed bag because the there i was in the opening scene which i didn't realize until way later how hard it is to get in the scene before the credits um Like I spent my young adulthood fighting to get in that opening scene.
24:57The cold open. The cold open. And I was in it and they all circle around me and I'm sad about something and they are rallying me up. And then they said, you know, would you like a glass of milk? And I remember my line was milk. I'm a Barrymore. I want to drink and make it a double. and um seven years seven boy little did i know how true that would end up you were like all
25:28Dana Carvey:kidding aside make it a double was there was there a family history of that at all or oh my god i mean they all died of consumption i literally my grandfather died of consumption um i think Ethel and Lionel were a bit more put together, but yeah, total hedonists and, um, and artists, um, and a long line of alcoholism and, uh, and yeah, so it's highly genetic, obviously. It is highly genetic, but I'm going to be the one who breaks that in our chain. Break it. Yeah. I haven't, I haven't had a drink in almost three years and, um, it's, it's a really good feeling. What's your happy place? how do you calm down then?
26:12Dana Carvey:Do you meditate? Do you take a bath? Do you run around the block? How do you calm that thinking brain without alcohol? I'm not sober. I don't work a program. I realized my relationship with alcohol was the most toxic one in my life. And when I'd been trying to master since I was nine years old and did start drinking. And that, yeah, I had to find a way I had to find a different way to live. And I can sort of trace every negative thing back in my life. And there's probably alcohol dancing in there somewhere. And it's like the best breakup I've ever had in my life. And it's so confident and quiet.
26:58And I have a bar in my house. I serve people drinks. I have no hangups about it i'm just like so psyched at this choice to finally cut this like cancer out of my life it's something excuse me well you feel better too i mean there's a lot of positives if you can get through it it's a lot of yeah upside and so how did you manage all these movies and this massive
27:21Dana Carvey:career while imbibing was it sort of binge drinking or would you how did people look the other way Um, I think, you know, when you do burn the candle at both ends and you are prolific, that's part of the fooling yourself. Like, but I'm doing all this work, so I'm functioning. Yeah. Um, and that was definitely my justification, but I was more of like, when I partied, I was the crazy one. Um, like I can think of another SNL alum, Chris Kattan, whose nickname and I for each other is rooftops. Cause we would get wasted and jump off my roof into the pool. and I had a lot of fun with it and there, there, there, it wasn't all bad.
28:05And then I think when kids came into my life, I realized that this was no longer sustainable and I made a hard choice and it's the best one I've ever made when it was just me and my life, I guess I didn't matter to myself enough to find the balance. My kids mattered more to me than I did. And I found the balance and it It didn't come easy and it wasn't pretty. And we all wish we had done things sooner, but I'm here and I'm so happy to be here. And that in itself, I think has replaced a ton of meditation and jogging and new agey stuff and self-help and self-care, just being a person who isn't corroded with guilt and dysfunction and blame.
28:51Like I had a bad girl narrative growing up. So every time I did something wrong, I went straight back to, well, you're a bad girl. So what the fuck else do you think? It's you. You're the bad girl. And if it's kind of your thing, like she's the drinker and the fun party girl, then you're like, it's already sort of factored in. So no one's going to get mad. That's kind of what they want. A hundred percent. I'm the good time girl. And I did have a good time. I wasn't willing to give it up for a long time. I was balancing it in a way where I was working my ass off. I work hard. I played hard and that was okay for 30 years.
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29:30And then I, I, I think growing up as an overrated, I'm totally into it. I really, um, I, I am, I'm, I feel so lucky to have arrived at a more peaceful, saner place. I'm 47 and I don't know if it, I just only know my own journey. I started so much younger than other people in many ways, but I think a lot of my wisdom came later. And that's okay. I don't even ask people what their ages because I don't give a shit. I don't think it's going to tell me everything about you. You're going to tell me if I have to ask people what their ages, I'll literally say, what's your number because it's not indicative of your journey.
30:16There are people who have clawed their way through life at such a young age and been dealt such strange cards. And there are people who just can't seem to mature no matter how hard everyone around them is trying. They won't.
30:31Dana Carvey:Did you say David? No. That was a joke. Look at him in his mansion. He's very successful. Listen, I was When I was nine years old My mom would say, you're not drinking until you're nine Like Drew Barrymore And I go, right We had a tough rule No, I've got my shit together, Drew No, I don't Do you? No, we're comedians We're damaged little clowns Yeah, we're little clowns It was an interesting lesson Growing up, being such a lover of male comedians, you know, so many wake up calls on who used the sort of torture as an excuse to, you know, behave a certain way or be kind of an intense person or, you know, and those who didn't, you know, and I would definitely gravitate towards the ones who didn't.
31:32But I and my mom, By the way, when I was a kid, not only did I get to do SNL at seven years old, but my mom worked as a waitress in the comedy store. So I now have a character that I do for the digital on our show named Mitzi Banana Moore. And it's all dedicated to Mitzi Shore, really. And she's the inspiration for it. And I get to ask questions that I can't get away with on daytime television. And I got a wig and a look and a whole thing. And I, you know, great. Sounds so funny coming out of you.
32:08Dana Carvey:Do you have a lot of Mitzi's stories? Cause I, we have stories about Mitzi, you know? Polly sure was my babysitter. Oh, wow. Yes. Sorry. Was everything okay? I think so. Him and Donovan Leach used to like, look after me sometimes. Like our parents didn't, I mean, my mom is an extreme case and, you know, but like, A lot of people were in that time like we did not parent back then the way we do now. And it's crazy. The scrutiny and the helicopter parenting and the guilt and the books and the rights and the wrongs and the do's and the don'ts. Yeah, my mom just left me with Polly and Donovan while she and Mitzi were off at work.
32:54It was fun. I loved it. And my mom gave me such a rich history on who each and every comedian was and what their body of work was and what Steve Martin meant and what Robin Williams meant and who these people that came and did a set that night or here's the person up and coming. It's very in my DNA. And so for me getting on this podcast with you guys, like I'm the one freaking out. I don't know what so much of my life would be without the things that you both have put into the world. And comedy is a very healing thing. I call it medicine always. And I've been trained like a little seal to appreciate and understand the power of when someone makes you laugh, they take away your pain and stress.
33:48They give you a respite from your trauma and your damage and your worries. and the things you got to do and the things that have affected you, you are liberated and free in that moment because you, your chemistry changes.
34:04Dana Carvey:You can't laugh and worry at the same time. I mean, the more you're worried, I hope the more you are laughing because it's the only way you're going to survive it. Well, this leads me to a question because you're given a background and what comedy meant to you and learning this in real time with you. what does it mean to have hosted SNL for you? Because then you go into America's comedy palace, basically, and you host it six times. What does that mean to you? And how thrilling was it for you to then be part of it after the age of seven, and then you're an adult, mature, funny person on that show?
34:45Dana Carvey:Thanks. What is it? What is it? I don't know. You have six minutes to answer that question. I really feel like that show is an institution and it's a living, breathing tree. It's a giving tree that new leaves come out of its branches. And these leaves are these people, these artists. Such good answers so far. Yeah. And so poetically, you speak like a poet. It's unreal. Have you written a book of poems? You have, haven't you? I think I do write poetry. I love poetry. I read a lot of poetry growing up. And we get to bask in the shade and the light of that tree. And it's like it's it formed me so much as a human being.
35:44And I'm happy to say whether it's successful or not. I don't know. I'm not objective about myself. I never want to be. But when I was lucky enough to get the show that I'm doing now, which is a talk show, it has my name on it. I actually asked for it to be named something else. They said, that's not how this works. I said, fine.
36:08Dana Carvey:we'll go with the household name you have a great you have a great name yeah it's a cool name one syllable and then three syllables it's just it goes drew barrymore it's just a cool name thank you dana carvey which actually ends in a smile that ends in a smile um i think um I never thought of that. It's true. I, I leaned in so hard to my SNL training for this show. And a couple examples are that when we launched the pandemic in 2020, it was a very scary time to find a voice. I felt like it was in order to be quiet and be a good listener and be a student and learn. And so that was really intimidating.
37:03But I tried to tap into bravery to be funny and have a show that really celebrated comedians and go hard on comedy. It was go hard. I love it. It was scary. And I think it confused a lot of people. And especially in that moment, like, what the hell is this pandemic?
37:29Dana Carvey:Here she comes again. Yeah. And the Drew's news segment of the show from which I fought for since the pilot, I kept trying to explain it to everybody. And obviously there is this section of a magazine called the week that's called, it wasn't all bad. And it's just these tiny baby size paragraphs that are so funny and uplifting and weird. um and then weekend update and then you know i just kept saying i just like weekend update to me is is a drug i i'm on that feeder i watch it every week i've i've never i'd never i don't miss it i i I love finding out information in a funny way. You could call it satire.
38:27You could call it pop culture. You could call it comedy. But like that news desk, I had a picture of Walter Cronkite, the weekend update desk, and like the week magazine. And I think everyone was really scared because they were like, well, that's very written. And I was like, no, I know I'm not going to write it. We're going to report stories that give people hope because there is good news out there and there are life affirming things and there are weird happenings and interesting findings. And we're going to be an aggregator for that. And then we can do commentary on it. I think Chelsea Lately, honestly, was a really interesting.
39:10Oh, yeah. You know, she she did a format where they really commented more on like gossip and pop culture. But it was so much fun. And no one had done that. And she had a panel of comedians and it was delicious. And nobody had done that. And, you know, Drew, during your during the pandemic, it's even harder because it's an uphill battle. Everything in the news is bad. It was so pessimistic and so rough that you're fighting through that clutter. And if anyone would just turn to the channel and see you, they're like, give me a breather here for a second. I didn't know if I would ever be one, but I knew that I wanted and I thought I want to be a bright spot and not a blind spot.
39:50I want you to come here and not think that I don't understand what's happening all around us. But there is beautiful things. There are wonderful people. There is that good. And if we have to be reminded in life affirming ways that this battle is worth it. Great. Then that's what I want to do. And how do I take us out while not seeming like I've lost the plot or I'm not in and aware and civic duty minded of everything that is really happening in reality? And it was the weirdest seesaw ever to balance. But I would say that Saturday Night Live has been my biggest influence in my life. And now that I got to do a show that's not a movie or not a script or not a rom-com, but probably involves a lot of people from the SNL alum, you know, you can see that love and that honoring and that adhesive sort of admiration I have for male comedians because I've spent so much time, you know, Sandler and Fallon and you did movies with both those guys.
41:08Like, yeah, crazy. And I have to say I got to be in Wayne's world is beer again. Kerrigan for a beer again.
41:16Dana Carvey:Can we hear a little bit of beer again, Kerrigan from Wayne's world? too. By the way, I really feel like that was the, I, like, I'm, I'm, I was worried, sweet, like anyone was going to be mad at me. Like I made a real joke out of the accent. Cause I didn't really study enough for it. And I, I sort of went for the broad comedy and I was like, and people with that people's got to stop being offended, but it was, I'm vegan. All I do is Greta Thunberg. I don't know what country she's from. How dare you? How dare you? That's it. It's just three words. All new drinks are now at McDonald's. With refreshers like the strawberry watermelon refresher and the mango pineapple refresher with popping boba.
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43:14what is it like to be able to have that like jimmy fallon came on the show the other day and he's married to my partner they fell in love on fever pitch um so he's like we're family um but we did one episode together here on this show where we were like let's try impressions and like i suck at impressions like what's it like to have that kind of access in the snap of a finger and be able to do any voice. Like I have to study and like take it so seriously that I almost lose the freedom and the whimsy. I got to learn it so well that then I can play because I've got it so fucking down that now I feel liberated and free because I held onto it so tightly.
44:00What's it like to just be like, ha, here, play, fingertips, access.
44:07Dana Carvey:Well, I don't know exactly what you're saying, but I think I've got a bloody idea about something you're trying to get to. Michael Caine, everyone. Michael Caine, if I have to say it. I didn't know I'd. Listen, you're tremendous. Everyone says, excuse me, many people. Drew Barrymore, your show's terrific. It's terrific. Many people, excuse me, many people are saying. It's all inflection. Yeah. Yeah, and I just have fun with it. I'm in awe of like there's certain people do certain impressions and I just love it. And I'm on awe of it. And Jimmy Fallon, his his Neil Young, you know, is like insane.
44:43Dana Carvey:Oh, Neil Young is so good. He has so much talent. You know, I've talked to people. They're like he's with Justin Timberlake and they're doing they're choreographing something. And they go, Jimmy, just one time. He's got it. And then he can sing and he dances and he does all these voices. And he's such a great, great talk show host because he's so such a great audience. I think we're all so influenced by that Renaissance variety human that can pull out of the ether or have a premeditated approach to it or access to both. Well, what's one that you learned? You talked about learning one and really owning it.
45:25Dana Carvey:Yeah. Do you have a good one? Load it up. You do Chloe Fineman. Sorry. Jesus. us. That's my favorite thing. We've done, we've done dozens of these. That's my favorite moment. Thank you, Drew. Thank you. I'm sorry. Now you're definitely the coolest. Oh, good. Oh, good. Um, I, um, all right. That one's getting to my house now. It's just getting to me. Oof. Let's see, what have I eaten today? Chili dog, I can tell you No, just Only quinoa Like a quinoa porridge It's pretty boring
46:07Oh shit, what was the question? Let's make fun of Sandler for the end
46:11Dana Carvey:We have a lot of Sandler questions At the end We got a Sandler question, so we like to clown on him I mean, God Do I just I love him so much You got some monster movies with him. Adam's made a lot of great movies, but I think 51 Dates is like one of his very, very best because it was such a complete film and it was emotional at the end. Didn't you find that to be an extra special one you did with him, 51 Dates? You've done three. 51st Dates. 51st Dates. Or 51. Originally, another title changed. It was called 51st Kisses. And I think they thought that was too girly. Yeah. Like dates is more gender neutral.
47:01Now, this actually became a really big study for me about men and women. This is where I really did take on gender. So Nan, my partner, had found that script and it was a drama that took place in Seattle. and funny enough she like wanted Reese Witherspoon to do it she was like she was like you're busy I'm gonna I was I believe in Reese Witherspoon she was a total fan we've all been fans of hers forever I've known Reese since I was 14 years old um and so she had me read it at a table reading and I was like oh my god this is the best script ever and we wanted to to um get attached to it as producers at Flower Films and it disappeared overnight.
47:48Like it just someone gobbled it up and then her and I tracked it for the next like, I mean, years, several years. It went through different big directors and big actresses. And we just Nan and I were like determined to track where this script went. and all of the sudden it finally matriculates over to none other than happy madison happy madison and that is to anyone who doesn't know is adam sandler's company he's always done it with the same people he always will he's such a loyalist and um it was everybody i knew from the wedding singer and oh another great one yeah i love that movie oh another monster well i stalked him i was like, I know that you and I are supposed to be Catherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy, except for probably through more of like a Marty Feldman, Buddy Hackett lens.
48:49Dana Carvey:I'm not fancying myself, Catherine Hepburn here. I've got purple hair and a leopard coat on and you're like sporty sport, you're sporty spice. So nothing about this physically says that this is a match, but I am convinced adam that you and i are supposed to be cinematic soulmates and uh we did the wedding singer together and then i think it was like 10 or 11 years later i found out the script went to him i ran into my trailer we were filming charlie's angels on the sony lot happy madison was on the sony lot and instead of running over to his office i thought i'm gonna type out a letter for him so i I got on my Olivetti typewriter and I typed out this letter to him hysterically sobbing.
49:35And this, I think the power of a letter, I've had multiple things happen that have changed my life for the better or in palpable, powerful ways through a letter. Don't deny the power of a letter. And I said, I know we've talked about maybe coming back together. We set ourselves up real well in the first one, which kind of fucks us up for the second one, because the expectations are going to be really high for both of us. And we can't do something that is less than we have to do something equal or maybe even more than. And I am convinced that this is the movie. And I had someone run the letter over to his office.
50:19He showed up at my trailer. very more
50:33why do you like this movie we're trying to make it into a comedy and i said oh my god really and he goes yeah and i go but okay uh interesting well damn it you cannot lose what is so fucking important about this movie, which is how do you make someone fall in love with you every day? And the poetry, like as a woman, I've never been more fucking moved in my life. You can't wash that away with goofiness. And he was like, yeah, but we know comedy and we know what guys want. And I said, and you know what? I know what girls want. And he goes, well, then obviously you've got to produce it with me. And I said, well, obviously we've got to make this movie together.
51:19and he was like so it's happening and i'm like is it happening really wow what a great story i love we went to work right away and we got flower films which was me and nan and happy madison which was him and the boys and we sat there and we rewrote the movie based on what we thought went like what we were all looking for yeah women's side boys side yeah and this was in the day where as a producer early on, I, you know, I was told, you know, men make the decisions about where to go to the movie that weekend and the girlfriend will go with that. And that's a gender stereotype that I just thought, Oh God, that's crazy.
52:02All right. Well, I don't know what to do with that information, but thank you for telling me that. And, uh, we tried to make it this balanced seesaw. And I, we met with directors and it was in Pete Siegel who, you know, I always think I got lucky and had a knack for seeing things in directors that they hadn't had in their work before. And with Pete Siegel, I knew he was the guy, I knew he got the tone. And this was going to be such a challenge to straddle like whale sperm flying in faces one minute and trying to connect with the human heart and move people in the next scene and i was like this is going to take a very unique conductor to pull this all up and make everybody happy and i knew that pete could do it because of our conversations.
53:05I knew he got it. Pete did another big comedy, Drew. What? Tommy Boy.
53:13Dana Carvey:Oh, he was your director 10 years before, which is another really, really great film. Isn't that crazy? Look at your face. Oh, my God. I didn't even realize that. That is a fucking masterpiece. Can you believe when you said Pete Siegel, I go, you got the right guy. Oh, my God. Tommy Boy. I mean, That's an iconic movie, David. Iconic. Like history books. It's true. Well, I love Tommy Boy. And I'm thinking for you guys to balance that, the team of you, Sandler and Pete, and then you throw Rob Schneider in a coconut bra or whatever he did. Oh, my God. I love the best. Oh, stop it. That's a real guy he was based on.
53:57Dana Carvey:Oh, yeah. He stayed in Hawaii. Schneider does these great, funny characters. But it's interesting, Drew, you say that, that the bones of it was a drama because that's still whatever you guys did. It's kind of what it is. It resonated by the third actor when he's on the boat, he sees you again. It got me verklempt. I mean, I took the ride with it. And that's hard to do in a comedy. It's very hard to do. It was my life and very much with the show that, again, I am lucky enough to make. And we fight so hard for it over here. We have the best time making it, but making a show and broadcast daytime in this time is really challenging.
54:37And we're trying to find new ways to reinvent it. But I want to be greedy in life and have all the tones. I think we have all the feels and therefore there are all the tones and there are all the life experiences. And no journey is devoid of tragedy and laughter and love and heartbreak and death and loss and ecstasy and sex. And, you know, maybe children, if you choose to go that route and, you know, relationship, it's just it's all the things. And so I don't like it's music, you know, and it's visuals and cinema like it's books. It's, it's everything. It's everything. And I want so badly to put everything in a blender.
55:27But then I think the trick is you still have to make it your own. You have to be you. Um, but I love all the, all the tones and I, I 51st dates is definitely a fun tonal example that you can kind of have it all and really well done really well put together but i'm aiming for that for everything in my life can it can it like maybe the north stars can be simplified down to heart
56:00Dana Carvey:and humor maybe you're like paris that ernie's hemmingway call it a movable feast oh of course that's a beautiful book i yeah it's well that phrase is just sort of encompasses kind of what you're saying the the magistry and the symphony of life and all you know slings and arrows and ups and downs and all better philosophers than me have spoke to but to live is to suffer and have joy every day and we had a joy today visiting with you we gotta let i was a top host in a previous life quoting hemingway perfectly um uh it is such like i was so excited to do this with you guys. I thank you for choosing me.
56:44Thank you for having me. Thank you for everything that you've done. I, I, I just love and admire you and I'm, I'm.
56:54Dana Carvey:Well, you've, you've brought a, an energy and a, a different point of view and you're, you know, you're so far sort of an outlier. It was really great to get you on our podcast and hear you to speak to all this stuff. Really interesting. Great. Thank you. Oh God. And by the way, I will be on the teat forever of laughter. So please keep giving it to everyone.
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