RE-RELEASE - Julia Sweeney

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25:19when you when you came on you um when you started i started for four weeks of the end of a season with schneider and then i think you started with rock and farley that that beginning was there i came and visited the show when he did his um Patrick Swayze sketch. Oh, I watched that show from the audience, but I wasn't on the show yet. So you came in mid season probably. Well, no, it was just, I think it was the next episode. Oh, okay. Maybe I knew I was going to start, but I wasn't in that episode. Yeah. I came the week before to look at a show. They said, why don't you come early? And I think that may be what they do to us.

25:59But, and you watch it and going, oh my God, I'm going to be part of this shit. It's moving so fast. I have no idea what's going on.

26:06Dana Carvey:I think it's scary watching a practice show, knowing projecting yourself out there a week later. How will I be out there? I mean, you guys are you're because you guys see to me it wasn't. But it wasn't scary to me. But that's not saying that it shouldn't have been scary. But I think because of doing sketches at the groundlings, like I it was just like I was in so many sketches and you had to learn. It was very similar to being at the ground. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. That's right. That's different for me and Dana because we didn't seem scary. I just I actually had the opposite. Like I thought as I watched it, I thought, oh, I can do this.

26:36I can do this. oh good yeah wow so you come in and you see all of us so phil you knew and you have great uh admiration for phil and you guys were good my teacher at oh teacher yeah god who's better to teach he's so good oh my god no he changed my life with his teaching he was such a he could really not very many comedians um can explain why they're funny and how they do it and he could you know funny thing about phil seeing we're in the office is how dana knows him way better but how uh unassuming and how egoless and he's always thinking about other things at work when i'm only thinking about snl because i'm so but he's so good he would be like hey i might go fishing this weekend or hey and then you think how are you thinking of one other thing this is driving me mental to try to but he's just i just remember how organized he was he had his folder all the sketches, all the lines.

27:30He really made sure he knew his lines.

27:32Dana Carvey:Oh, he's so good. He took it so seriously. Yeah, and then he was so disciplined around it, and then he would have a Popular Mechanics or some kind of Motorboat Today magazine. He'd be looking at schematics of an Evan Root, and then he'd put it down, and then he'd go in a rehearsal scene, nail it perfect, go back out, paint something. I think he had that red hardcover that says Saturday Night Live in the corner in that circle, and then it was like a read a hard notebook and you'd open it up three ring binder and you put that's right yeah i'd put my two pages of script for that week in there and open up oh my update it's a consistent theme with david he had a rough time i keep saying it uh and then so you got along pretty much like you knew what were your first first thoughts of like an adam or something what's my first thoughts about What about like Sandler or Farley?

28:25Sandler came a little later, I think. All right.

28:28Dana Carvey:Maybe a year later. Yeah, I think he wasn't there right away. Ellen Claghorn was with you. Yeah. Siobhan Fallon. Yeah, I love Siobhan. Melanie Hutzel. And Beth, right? Beth for each season. Beth Cahill. Yeah, those were kind of your primary. Yeah, I didn't really know Beth very well. She was just there for one year. But yeah, I mean, it was exciting. I mean, of course, it was the most exciting thing. You're at the center of the universe and you're at the top of what you would want to be for your, you know, your skill set. I mean, like it's the best. I mean, it was the greatest, most thrilling thing.

29:05I would say it was completely great till the last year. And at first, what happened the last year? Well, I for one thing, the sketches changed. They were more bro sketches. is and who would be doing that? I wasn't. There was no place for me in those sketches. I mean, like there was no and I wasn't getting my own stuff on and no one was casting me and Christine had left. That was the big thing. So we had written together every week and she'd gone to work on Third Rock from the Sun with Bonnie and Terry and Zander. And I, I just was lost without her, frankly. And and I felt like the sketches were more.

29:48I remember something. I mean, this is my it was kind of terrible. There was some sketch where they had to have a beautiful woman. And I was listening to everyone talk about how none of the women who were on the show could. Oh, yeah. And they had to bring in a model. Because there was literally no one there that even with makeup and everything who could pass as sexual like.

30:12Dana Carvey:and so and then I was like wow I'm oh my god really have I mean not that I would have necessarily been that choice anyway but it's like that point of view there just was no room for me now looking back I think I should have pushed harder of my own comedy and I should have you know should have would have could have but everybody does but well Xander and the Turners who have people listening bonnie and terry turner were great writers together christine zander was wonderful so so having them in your corner or at least a piece of it or something yeah it really takes a chunk away and you need every piece to keep going and if you have a little bit slipping and i knew it would be harder but i didn't know it would be devastating you know i didn't know that it would be i thought bottom would drop out yeah the bottom really seemed to drop out and so there were for the first time there were sketches, I have shows I wasn't even in it, you know, like.

31:11And yeah, that was hard. It was really hard. I could hardly wait to leave at the end of that year. But up until then, though, it was fantastic. Yeah, sure. It really was very exciting.

31:21Dana Carvey:Yeah, it seemed like you I was there three, three years with you. And it just seemed like you were really, really active in the show. Yeah. And I think that was a big part was my youthful enthusiasm. And also, Christine. yeah christine who wrote the reconciliation sketch it was such a me that actually i had written that sketch well christine and i wrote it together um but i had had the idea and done a kind of early form of that sketch do you want to describe what it what it was i mean uh well it was now i'm thinking is that really true well then it's the one with alec baldwin plays the Anyway, it was Alec Baldwin came on and he's so handsome.

32:02And, you know, he's just he's like he's one of those guys who's handsome and funny, as you know, blah, blah, blah.

32:07Dana Carvey:Yes. And I was telling Christine that in my Catholic high school, they had changed confession and they now called it reconciliation. And you looked at the priest in a room instead of going to a confessional. And that at our high school, I went to an all girls Catholic high school and the priest was Father Bowley. And he was so handsome that people would get so distracted telling them their sins. That's funny. They couldn't. Like, he was so handsome. Father Baldwin. And then I would go in and start flirting with the priest. And then it was creepy and everything. And that I would start making up sins just to stay in the confessional, you know, like, just so we could keep this conversation going.

32:45Yeah. And so we wrote that with an outlet came in and wrote it with us. I mean, at least parts of it with us. And God, that was really fun. It was so much fun.

32:55Dana Carvey:Very, very funny. He was perfect casting. And you were you played it beautifully. I mean, it's just. And then the best thing about that, we had written a line at the end where because I'm like, I I cheated on my diet. And he's like, well, that's not really a sin. And I'm like, oh, and then he goes, but I know. I know what it's like to, you know, try to go on a diet. What did you cheat with? And I go, I ate a whole box of Oreos. And he says, oh, do you like to unscrew it and. eat out the creamy center or something like that. There you go. And then the standards and practices like you can't say eat out the creamy center.

33:29We suggest you say lick out the cream.

33:33Dana Carvey:They always get it more pornographic. It's so funny. Every time. Classic. OK. Really? Wow. Good. Can you say go down on the Oreo? I think that would be better. Yeah, exactly. I am. This is just a Catholic 20 second story. My wife and I were married in a Catholic church. The priest, we went to dinner with him, this and that. They usually have a few pops, you know what I mean? And my wife, very pretty, 23 at the time, gets up, goes to the bathroom with her tight jeans. He looks and says, if you don't marry her, I will. That was the priest. Good night. That's all I got. David? Julia, were you there when Alec?

34:14I'm just looking at your thing where it says you brought up Alec. Yeah. it says she demonstrated an early talent for mimicry what is that is that like on imdb or something characters awesome i love it because i did it i by the way i was not good at mimicry and people were often have you know assigning me famous people to play and i've i feel like i really was like c c minus at that like it feels like more special skills at the bottom mimicry I heard you're good at mimicry and you're like, you're a mimic in third grade.

34:50Dana Carvey:Do you remember Dana? I don't think Julie was there, but Alex first show was my like third one. And he did a sketch called the mimic unless he did it later. Oh, I think, no, no, I think he had done it when he came. He had already done that. This is the stupidest sketch. And he was so funny. He goes, the mimic. And he pick up the phone and go, hello. He goes, he can do anything. And then he was like kind of bad at all of them. And because he actually is good at all these accents and stuff, but they just, and he dressed all black. The mimic. Well, the classic was Frank Gorshwin. He was a brilliant impressionist on Ed Sullivan in the 60s.

35:22Dana Carvey:And he would do the classic turn away from the camera and kind of fluff his hair up and then come back, which is like, look at me now, you know. I like that. I like that kind of impression. Yeah, we can do voices.

35:42So, Dana, do you You live in L.A. now, not in Mill Valley anymore?

35:46Dana Carvey:I was just in Mill Valley The actual address is Yeah, I was just there We have the 1912 haunted house up there And I've experienced I don't know if I believe it But poltergeist up there What? And I told Dan Aykroyd about it And he says, I gotta get someone in there to check it out It's in one particular bedroom. And at night I would hear white noise because my son had moved out of that bedroom and moved in with his brother because he felt. And I would hear white noise because there was a portable radio there. So I would walk in and then the white noise would stop. All that. And it happened, you know, a couple of times a year.

36:24Dana Carvey:And I saw some things. Anyway, I'm in. I happen to know the top paranormal debunker in the United States. If you're interested. it. I don't necessarily believe in it. I've had the nightmare where you feel a pressure on your chest, even though you're in a waking dream state. And that made me leave the San Ysidro hotel one night with my wife at three in the morning. I woke her up and said, we have to go now because I felt the pressure on my chest when I'm sleeping and bouncing up and down on me. And then I went and used the bathroom and thought, okay, that's a, I was dreaming. Then I laid back down and I felt like I was awake as I am right now.

37:02Dana Carvey:And then massive pressure that felt angry, pushing down on me and I was just couldn't move. And then it released me. Didn't you have heart issues? Like, isn't there a physical explanation for that? I had seven stents and a botched bypass 25 years ago. Look at me now. Those are my issues. Let me charge. No, but I mean, there's, I mean, there's always a natural explanation. I mean, always. Oh, by the way, Julia, I know a paranormal bunker. They should meet your debunker. Dana, I get scared at my house because I just moved, and I don't want to hear that story because I hear, like, clicking and the house settling in quotes.

37:43It's like, and Julia will say it's a house settling, which I say because I can't. In the middle of the night when it's dead silent, you're so scared. You're like, I have to think of a reason what's going on because it's always scary. But I haven't felt pressure or anything like that. I would fucking... freak out oh i ran out since i became a person who doesn't believe in supernatural in any way except us yeah um i never get scared i mean i get scared when i think there's a reasonable chance that something's truly wrong but that kind of stuff i doesn't even i just think there's

38:16Dana Carvey:some things making the sound yeah i'm not i'm not frightened of it at all i because i never got hurt it just flipped me out the first time but i i don't know if i said this but i mike myers who kind of read the encyclopedia as a five-year-old you know nightmare is is a from the word you know it's some medieval latin prefix or for a mayor and i eat a horse feels like it's laying on top you and it's just a waking dream state i read about it in the new york times the brain disconnects david you're fine i mean you that scared me and i've never heard about the horse part but i like it um julia you were in cone heads you know we should we you were in cone heads weren't you that was sort of a sign what was wasn't it or no you weren't well i remember thinking i'm playing the principal and chris farley's playing a high school student and we're only like four years apart in it that tells you a lot about um yeah that was fun i don't remember that much about it yeah i i was in it too believe me we were all in it i think as i think lauren just said david you'll be reporting to coneheads i was like oh yes yeah i think it was something like it was like you just were told that you were going.

39:27But David, you know what I remember is that sketch you wrote, not necessarily for me, but I got to be the main comedy driver of it. I always bring that up. And the sketch, remember the sketch where I go on the date and I just keep ordering expensive food and then I start talking about how I'm not going to put out trying to push me towards the more cheap, the cheaper food. Do you remember that? I don't. That's hilarious. Oh, my God. And I have this idea for you. I'm going to write the sketch. And it was. Wow. I'm forgetting who the guy was, but it was some handsome guy. And I'm just and the whole thing was like me like, oh, I'm so happy to be on the stage.

39:59Oh, lobster and steak. That's what I'm going to get. And then it's like, I just want to tell you that I don't ever have sex with anyone. And then it kind of goes. I mean, it wasn't that obvious, but it was really well written. And when people say those guys at SNL, they were so, you know, together and not, you know, really into the women that much. I say David Spade wrote a sketch for me. That was one of the best things I ever did. That's so great. I love that. And he wasn't even in it. He just wrote it. You know, like I can't believe it was a very loving thing to do. I don't know how much it meant about me, but I took it.

40:36That's a very well.

40:37Dana Carvey:You probably performed it great because you. Right. I know you're good. That's I knew you're good. And it's fun to have a sketch and you probably had the host in there. But when you get the funny parts, because it's really hard. Yeah, I mean, because usually you're not getting to be the driver of the comedy. And you and that this character was I mean, it was really the host was kind of just reacting to me. And you had just written it. And it was just the most wonderful gift. I mean, it was just an incredible thing. And I bring that up at least once a month. I'm telling people that. And David's so nice.

41:09Dana Carvey:And David doesn't remember. I said that's the most baffling part of the sketches I wrote. I didn't write that many. That's crazy. Yeah. Well, thank you. And I'm glad you did it. And I'm glad you remember it and say it. That's great I don't want to talk about me forever But I like that Not many people This will go full circle Got a movie out of a character And you did There was no Church Lady movie There was a Stuart Smalley movie There was a Pat movie in the 90s Anybody else of a character I think those were the two Those two should have been in the movie together They would have been great I know it Is that a bittersweet memory or is it a good one?

41:51Yeah, definitely bittersweet. I had such a good time making it. We didn't know what we were doing. I didn't do it with Lorne. I didn't understand the politics. He wanted to do it, but then...

42:00Dana Carvey:Oh, didn't he own it? Didn't he own the character? No, I was one of the people. When I came in, my lawyer got me to own Pat. I don't know how it doesn't even matter. I mean, it didn't end up mattering. Got it. So you owned it and did it outside the system in a way. So I could have, because I had done that character at the Groundlings, I don't know why. Anyway, so he did. So it was my choice. And I think I made a dumb choice not to have Lauren be the producer of it because all kinds of awful things happen. Aside from the fact that we didn't write a good script. I mean, like, you know, so I don't know.

42:35It was it was really fun to to do it. And it was really fun to make it. Oh, my God, it was so much fun. And I learned so much. And then it was really a big bomb. And but I always felt grateful for it. And I am I wrote to Eisner afterwards and said how I know I made it. I know I just wasted eight million dollars of your money. But I learned so much and had a great time. And I know that shouldn't compensate for it because that's a lot of money. But I just want to say everything about it was really great. And thank you. I'll never forget that obviously and then he sent that letter around disney because like here's somebody who's grateful for failing yeah wow you know julia i did that with a movie once and i and i i think that's so cool you did that i i felt so bad after a movie i called the guy and said uh i appreciate you doing it i'm just so sorry i didn't do what you wanted kind of thing and i don't think he wrote me back but uh i do think for myself i felt like yeah i mean you realize like now of course everything so different now but i i i don't know how i would have done it differently and maybe i wasn't really up to the task of turning that into something successful but it wasn't and um and you know yeah but i got the chance i mean i got the chance but julie is it hard to take a sketch i'm sorry yeah no no that's take a sketch difficult and and and you've done a sketch and you feel like a lot of the good jokes is the reason the sketch is doing well.

44:13And then you're not really starting from scratch, but to fill the whole. Yeah, no, I think it is. I mean, actually, it wasn't till late. I didn't watch all the Charlie Chaplin movies till much later in my life. And when I watched them, I realized not that Pat is any the character of Pat is anything like the Charlie Chaplin character, but that the way he was enigmatic enigmatic and let everyone else be reacting to him while he was doing physical things would have been the way that I think it could have succeeded. But I didn't know enough to know that.

44:47Dana Carvey:I was in some very shitty movies, but I never felt like I was driving the boat. But I do think that funny with the sound off, like if the sound broke on a Pat movie, it would be nice to think it could still work. But to solve that dilemma, especially, you know, Stuart Smalley, these are quirky characters. I think Wayne and Garth just followed Bill and Ted and they were like dudes, you know, party on. They're very accessible. And to make Pat, yeah, it would be a challenge because such an eccentric character, but visually funny. It's sort of like more for adults and Wayne and Garth could be for adults or kids, you know.

45:24They can get into it too. Yeah. Because it's like very... But you know, Stuart Smalley, I watched, I did, when I lived in Chicago for 10 years and I was helping to teach at the Harold Ramis Film School. They have this film program that I was teaching. I was really not teaching. It was a friend of mine teaching it, but I kind of helped for one semester. And we were watching some Harold Ramis movies and he directed Stuart Smalley. And so we watched it. And you know what? I liked it. I thought it was a successful film. I mean, it's a really quirky movie, but I was really, unlike Pat. When I watched the Pat movie, I was like, yeah, this doesn't work.

46:06I mean, this really didn't work. But Stuart Smalley, I thought, worked.

46:09Dana Carvey:Yeah. I mean, Harold Ramis is so talented. I think talking to Al Franken, I think he's going on Fallon soon. And I told him he should he should do Stuart Smalley for the young audience and hold Jimmy's hand, make it all about Jimmy, you know, good enough, strong enough, you know, that kind of thing. So, oh, my God, you know, I almost canceled myself, except that no one cares if I'm canceled. because after Al Franken's debacle and demise from the Senate, I was so angry and upset. I was so angry. I couldn't sleep for a month. I was so angry. And then I wrote a one person show about it and did it for like five Saturdays at the Groundlings Small Theater until people came up and said, Julia, first of all, this isn't even funny in any way.

46:57It was just me. I was all I did. I went through all the allegations. Allegation number four. you know, like I was I was crazed with anger at how the Me Too movement had been twisted up in the worst possible way to go after this great guy, in my opinion, and complete. I was so angry, you guys. And then I had somebody come and say, you know, you'll never work again if you open this show, because it's really just even though I'm a Me Too supporter. But when it came to Al Frank and I just could see how that all that shit went down. And it was bullshit. And it was and then people weren't talking to me.

47:37And then I finally just dropped it because I couldn't make it entertaining enough. It really was a show of me for 90 minutes talking about each allegation against Al Franken and why am I bulletin board and this and why and why and why. And and I had to stop it. I think that's when I really had went over on the other side of the culture because I felt like, OK. hey, this, I'm so angry about this. It's so unfair. And yet the culture is, you know, I'm not, I can't influence the culture and I'm just going to wreck my own career and health over it. So I kind of just dropped it. And then I also realized I didn't really have the standing for anyone to care about it, you know, what I thought about it.

48:24So I couldn't really even help him. And then later I finally saw El Franken And then I realized he didn't really care if I was doing that either I was like, oh, I've just been doing a one-person show about you And he's like, oh, thanks You don't have to

48:40Dana Carvey:It's kind of scary because anybody If someone from high school said I looked at him wrong in 1973 or something Exactly It's like, whoa, I mean, you know, there's the other, the big players We don't have to name them, where it's pretty obvious Yeah, exactly There was a lot of people that maybe behaved a little boorishly or something, but to be canceled for life is just a bit much. No, it was really that was really anyway. I didn't mean to take us into sad territory, but that was really, really, really just fucking got my goat. I just couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. And I wanted I just couldn't I couldn't think of anything else.

49:17And it took a long time to just accept that's how life goes in an unfair way. sometimes for some people. And that's how it's always been. I mean, like not for everyone, obviously not for everyone. But sometimes you're at the wrong place at the wrong time. It's all I could thinking it's almost like there was a huge pile up on the road and Al Franken was driving on the outside of the road and his fender caught it. And he just caught up in it.

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53:24all right i have a sky of a gear change question for julia you have a what a gear change okay yes i'm sorry no i don't care we love all we love all of it we love all questions i just before i got off i wanted to ask you if you it i read that you felt badly that you might have cracked up during motivational speaker and i never thought of that of you i never thought anything negative about that I do have a problem controlling laughing during sketching. I didn't ever think that of you. I thought I fucked that sketch up. Me and Christina ruined it. But we were just laughing, which didn't really ruin it.

53:59It was just so rare to happen. It was really just seeing the funniest thing. And you knew that it was going to live forever. And you're in the middle of it. And you have the best seat in the house. And I can't stop laughing. Like, I thought I was good. Farley in that character.

54:15Dana Carvey:I said it on another podcast. I think that's the most, I don't know, most potent thing someone has ever done maybe. Just the way he squatted and got ready for his next line. It's very crisp moves. They were just, it was like Chaplain S. He's just going to get squatted, get set with his body before he, yeah, that might have broke me if I was in it. I think Phil might be the only one that didn't laugh. I know Phil is so good. He could really, I couldn't control it. I couldn't control myself. We all started to break. And that's the problem is that we, and back then I think they do it more now. They crack up a lot, but it was definitely a no, no.

54:52No, it was terrible to do that. You were being like, yeah, the Carol Burnett show now. Yeah.

54:59Dana Carvey:We didn't have as much fun as we could have had, you know, because I was just thought you'd get fired. I mean, when Phil finally broke, Phil finally broke doing Tonto, Tarzan and Frankenstein and he's Frankenstein. He crashes through the thing or whatever. And then that first time, Phil broke. Phil was done. Fire bad. And then he was I was toast. And I thought, wow, this is amazing. Is he going to be in trouble? There's always fear on that. Yeah, there was. I wonder what it's like now, because I was thinking, you know, Lauren is so much older now than the people who are performing than he was from our age.

55:35You know, like for us, he was kind of an older guy. But now he's a much, much older guy.

55:40Dana Carvey:Yeah. 76. And then a new cast member is like 22. too. And they're chatting about comedy. That's a whole different feeling. I mean, I wonder what it's like. I don't know. The meetings are like, who's your favorite rappers? Rap singers? Right. Is Dr. Dre really a doctor? Does anyone know? Please. I think they always seem to find a way, that show, to find great people. You know, it's an incredible success that I didn't I didn't think I thought, oh, it'll go for a few more years. But you really have to hand it to him. I mean, like it's really incredible. He is the show. And he never panicked because there were so many years of like we got to do it taped or we got to change the name and change the band.

56:28Dana Carvey:And he knew he had an incredible brand and he just stuck to it. And like Steve Higgins said, Lorne wrote the Constitution of the House. And then he lets it's a it's liquid form. It can be whatever it becomes, because now going full circle with women, they play a lot of men on the right. You probably would have done George Bush or Ross Perot. Yes. Well, the reason I played Pat at first is I was trying to play a man, but I didn't feel like it was very convincing. And so I thought, oh, I'll just make a joke that you don't know if it's a man or a woman to kind of cover for my lack of acting ability.

57:03But now I probably wouldn't think that I think I could just play a man if I want it.

57:08Dana Carvey:Julia, can we just get up? Because we need something to trend. You know, we're behind smart lists, but we're getting close. Inside your mind, have you ever thought to yourself, was Pat a man or a woman? Just internally to yourself. Do you know the secret? I'm sorry. There is no secret. There is no secret. I know. I wish I could so you had a little soundbite. You could be out there, but I'd be lying. I know, I was just making fun of soundbites. Here's a soundbite. Church lady wasn't religious. No, I don't. We could have done a church lady becomes an atheist. That would have been funny. Oh, I do think church lady with Pat would have been perfect, you know?

57:51You know what I think is that they just live together and you just don't ask questions about that relationship. They moved in together, you think? I just think it'd be funny if they just like you find out that they lived together for 35 years in separate rooms. You know, but it's just curious. Yeah, I like it.

58:08Dana Carvey:It just says we anyway. That would be a thing. We like to get dressed, don't we, in our clothes? Well, we have our special clothes on that fit us in a certain way, so we can't tell quite what we are under. Dana, do you have anything else for the lovely Julia Sweeney to ask her? So you guys are both mainly living in L.A. now, right? I'm living in L.A. Are you? Yes, I moved back from Chicago. Okay. So I bought a house in 1992 that I thought was going to be a starter house, but it's an ender house.

58:43Dana Carvey:Prices have gotten pricey. No, because I couldn't afford to live in this neighborhood. There's no way. No chance. So now we're my husband. I just married about 15 years ago. And my husband and I. Just 15 years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a good guy. Go ahead. And we're remodeling that house. It's a small house, but it's perfect for two retired people. and um so we're remodeling it and we're living next door while it's being remodeled but it's supposed to be done in about a year it's supposed to be done in 10 and a half years so are you it takes a while so when it's done i want to have you guys over that's more like it'll be really pretty and we can sit in the backyard and um i'm i would love it will you invite us I'll go.

59:30Dana Carvey:Do you have my email or Greg will give it to you? No, Greg, you'll give me both their emails. Yeah, I think I saw you, David, at somebody's. Who was it? Some a party. Anyway, David at a party. Yeah, it's crazy. No, Dana. Those are the good old days. But I still go out if it's someone's dinner or some small thing like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I used to have big parties all the time. I used to have a Sunday night party that was huge every Sunday. I think I remember that. Yeah. But now I like four to eight, small, the right people, nice food, early. Early is the key. I like to eat early. So do I.

1:00:11I like to eat at four or five.

1:00:13Dana Carvey:I eat at five. And so I would have an adult beverage. We're on the same page. Yes. Yes. Early, fun, maybe Sunday, four to eight, boom, get in, get out. Yeah, maybe four to seven. And you're an atheist, so you won't care it's a holy day. I am too. And I'm an agnostic. I'm pretty sure I'm not an atheist. I don't know. Whatever. Joke to come. Julia, send us a mass email and get Dana and I on that. Julia Sweeney, one of the all-time great cast members of Saturday Night Live. Thanks for having me. It's really nice to see you guys. And when your house is done, we will see you. And if we don't see you then, we'll see you at the 50th.

1:00:54Dana Carvey:And my hair is going to even be more weird. I guess it's pretty close to that now, right? Oh, yeah. 20, 25. Get the pad outfit. I would go. I'm going to get a few little things done right as a right before I go. Last one, I really cared about being there and it was really important for me. My identity that I was on SNL. I'm in such a different place now. I don't even know if I go because I just feel like, yeah, OK, I know. I want to fly. You just yeah, I know you can. It's it's it's really it's really about Lauren, you know, kind of. Well, no, I mean, it is fun, but you don't. it's not like you can really talk to people.

1:01:29I mean, like you just kind of be in this. No, you're going,

1:01:32Dana Carvey:Hey, there's, there's, there's Bill Hader or there's, there's Melanie Hutzel. Yeah, I know it's everywhere, but nowhere. I like a small party, six to eight people. I think instead I'll just, I'll have it after you guys go, I'll have my dinner party and we'll tell you all the juice. Yes. Yes. Juice it up. All right. Julia Sweeney. Okay, honey, I'll get your emails. Yes. Get our emails. We'd love to keep in touch and so great to see you. So good to see you. This is a fun part of this podcast.

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