In short
Lisa Kudrow (re-release) discusses her path into comedy/acting, her upbringing with humor, and her experiences on Friends and later projects, including Dead to Me. The episode also includes long-form conversation about auditions, improv vs scripted performance, cast dynamics, and the business/psychology of show business.
Guests
Lisa Kudrow (actress; older sister of David; known for Friends) and John Lovitz (comedian/actor; described as eccentric in her childhood; close with David) plus David (referenced as her brother; also in show business). The host is Dana and David (hosts’ banter appears in transcript).
Key claims
Groundlings taught her improv fundamentals (listen/respond, don’t take rejection personally). She was blocked from auditioning early due to lack of recent performance. Friends cast camaraderie and accountability helped avoid tension. Dead to Me felt exciting because it was Liz Feldman’s limited series starring Ray Romano and Linda Cardellini.
Notable examples
A nightmare audition for Larry Sanders with Gary Shandling; her early impressions/improv at school; Friends read-through/pilot pressure; Dead to Me kitchen scene “put the knife down”; Romy and Michele’s High School Reunion (rated R debate).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCelebrity Lookalikes and Encounters
0:00 to 1:15
Dana and David discuss doppelgangers and funny celebrity encounters.
“We all have those hero little items in our closet we reach for every morning.”
Celebrity Lookalikes and Encounters
1:19 to 1:29
Dana and David discuss doppelgangers and funny celebrity encounters.
“Have you ever noticed that losing weight isn't always the hardest part?”
Celebrity Lookalikes and Encounters
2:54 to 4:19
Dana and David discuss doppelgangers and funny celebrity encounters.
“I'm his older brother from another mother.”
Memories of John Lovitz
4:19 to 7:48
Lisa discusses her memories and interactions with John Lovitz.
“John's, let's say, eccentric dad, you know, who I've met a few times.”
Improv and Acting Beginnings
7:48 to 9:58
The importance of improv and Lisa's journey into acting.
“And I was the youngest, so I was the least funny.”
Family Influence on Comedy
9:58 to 12:27
Exploration of family dynamics and how they influence humor.
“just consistently you were like one of the most popular school kids?”
Cultural References and Influences
12:27 to 14:00
Discussion on cultural references that shaped the hosts' humor.
“I played David Cassidy on an SNL sketch.”
Navigating Comedy and Jealousy
14:00 to 18:26
Learn about the challenges of jealousy and competition in the comedy world.
“But you've suffered some fools along the way.”
Audition Nightmares and Career Reflections
18:34 to 22:48
Explore the pressures of auditions and the unpredictable nature of success.
“How We Made Your Mother is the How I Met Your Mother rewatch podcast with me, Josh Radner, and series co-creator Craig Thomas.”
The Comeback and Its Unique Style
22:48 to 25:52
Insight into the making of 'The Comeback' and its innovative approach.
“So yeah, I didn't feel like bringing up, I think I scared you.”
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Adapting to Changing Industry Trends
25:52 to 28:00
Discuss the evolution of television and the impact of streaming services.
“a different tone yeah yeah and luckily while i was doing friends i was doing independent films a lot, which was fun because there are no stakes at all.”
Exploring a New Show's Premise
28:00 to 29:10
The hosts discuss a new Netflix show featuring a couple selling their house with intriguing secrets.
“I used to know him a little more in the old days.”
Improvisation in Filming
29:10 to 30:50
They talk about the benefits of improvisation in scenes and working with cameras during shoots.
“And then you have the people who come to the open house and desperately want this house and whatever's going on in their life that somehow intersects with this couple.”
Joining a New Project
30:50 to 32:50
Discussing the excitement and nerves of joining a new project alongside well-known actors.
“And so when you see it, it always feels looser if you just feel a little more into it.”
The Nerve-Wracking Read-Through
32:50 to 34:10
They share experiences about the anxiety of performing at read-throughs and the stakes involved.
“And then I had a meal with Liz where I had a lot of questions.”
Success and Reception of a Film
34:10 to 36:26
The conversation shifts to discuss the unexpected reception of a film and audience expectations.
“And then what was your first day of shooting with Ray?”
Romy and Michelle's Cultural Impact
38:15 to 42:00
Discussing the enduring legacy and impact of the film 'Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion'.
“such a big one, especially when it came out and you must still hear about it all the time.”
Movie Profitability and Audience Appeal
42:00 to 43:19
Discussion on the financial aspects of movies and target audience insights.
“If it's holding back another$50 million.”
John Travolta: The Great Guy
43:20 to 45:06
Anecdotes about John Travolta's kindness and his experiences in Hollywood.
“Nice guy in show business potentially I've ever met.”
Lisa Kudrow and Friends' Fame
45:07 to 47:13
Lisa Kudrow reflects on her fame from Friends and experiences in the industry.
“And then Pulp Fiction kind of put him in this other kind of lane.”
Celebrity Life and Privacy
47:14 to 48:51
Discussion on the challenges of celebrity life and media scrutiny.
“too famous did you ever did any of the cast ever wear a disguise not that i know of yeah okay no i don't think so i mean also it wasn't so bad for me because i'm i'm married to a person who's not in this business.”
Public Perception and Fan Interactions
48:52 to 50:55
Insights into how public perceptions and interactions affect celebrities.
“to be nice to people who don't know what show business is and you're at some school function and they sidle up and, hey, how do you make that friends type show?”
Sibling Rivalries and Show Business
50:56 to 53:18
Conversations on rivalries in show business and working relationships.
“I don't care about celebrities is the number one person that cares about celebrities.”
The Rigors of TV Production
53:19 to 55:40
Discussion about the demands of TV production and cast dynamics.
“Otherwise it can get, you know, I mean, David, you've been on shows where it can get tense amongst casts don't normally love each other.”
Early Run-Throughs and Efficiency
55:41 to 56:04
Insights on the importance of early run-throughs and efficiency in writing.
Behind the Scenes of Sitcom Production
56:04 to 59:22
Learn about the experiences and challenges of sitcom production, including audience reactions and pressure on the cast.
“They're all driving away in their Porsches.”
The Evolution of Comedy and Audience Favorites
59:22 to 1:02:59
Discover how comedy evolves over time and how audience preferences can change after repeated viewings.
“You're like, and also that's not really what we're talking about right now.”
Wrapping Up with Lisa Kudrow
1:02:59 to 1:04:09
Reflect on the conversation with Lisa Kudrow and the insights shared about her career and experiences.
“After the movie, they go, did you like that one?”
Transcript
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2:45We are Dana and David. You can figure out which one is which whenever you... Dana and David. Okay. Ha ha ha.
2:52Dana Carvey:You got it. It's kind of weird. I'm his older brother from another mother. Do you have any doppelangers in show business? Like, you know, you look like, or someone saying, you know, people tell me I look like you. No. Well, yeah. People that come up and say, oh my God, everyone tells me I look like you. Oh, okay. But wait, listen to this. Years ago, I was at a restaurant waiting for someone and the hostess came over and said, are you famous? I'm not doing the accent. I said, she said, are you Dionne Warwick?
3:35Dana Carvey:Are you? That's a kid a lot. I used to get David would get me I would get David And then I aged out of that And then they say Do you know David Spade Is my latest Did you know him Oh no What do you mean I go yeah Did you You're like Are you like everybody's Kid sister in a way Kind of You look a little like My sister a little bit Oh really Well I mean You know Levitt Both of you John Levitt Yes Of course The one and only. Yes. I grew up with John. He and my brother are best friends. David. David. Yes. I've heard so much about this. It'd be interesting to hear it from your point of view. Yes, the real point of view.
4:20Dana Carvey:John's, let's say, eccentric dad, you know, who I've met a few times. And David's encouragement to him. Yeah. And then you being the kid sister coming out of, going into show business. So go ahead. Go. You have 30 minutes.
4:42Yeah, that all sounds right. Yeah.
4:46Dana Carvey:Explain John then to John now, just as a personality. There's no difference. I will attest to that. There's absolutely no difference. At 10-year-old John, did you meet him at 10 or 12? How old was he? They're six years older than me. If I was three, they were nine. So you meant that far back? Yeah. Oh, I thought you meant like, oh. He was at our house all the time. I mean, so at home, he could just walk in, go to the kitchen, cookie drawer, grab stuff, you know. Do you have any brownies? Oh, you don't have the other cookies? Yeah. Lisa, sorry about your attitude. Yes. When did this guy come in?
5:33Dana Carvey:I mean, the 40s guy. Was that there when he was like 10 or something? Hello. Well, I don't remember when I was three. Okay. So when you were eight, he was 14. Yes. Because he would call up and we shared, the kids shared a phone and it would be, and like, hello. Oh, hello. Is this Lisa? Yeah. Hi, John. Do you want to talk to David? Wait. And he would do some very long bit. I can't sing. Love it. Can I just get David? Can I just get David for you? Yeah. That's just terrible. Always funny. Always has a spin on a joke. If you must. And then wait, you get older. Didn't you go? No, I didn't. You didn't get older?
6:20I'm kidding. That would be bad. John Lovitz? So you were like, didn't you go to improv the same place he did or no? Well, yeah, because then when I graduated college, I told him, yeah, I think I'm going to try acting now. And he said, Oh, okay. Listen. Okay. Cause look, you know, I studied in college and everywhere, but the place I learned the most was the groundlings. That's where I learned the most. You have to learn improv. It's listening and responding. It's the most important thing in acting. And he was right. And, And they wouldn't let me take classes because I hadn't performed or done anything since junior high school.
7:06Do you have to have a res a little bit to get in there? I don't know. This was like 1985, 86.
7:12Dana Carvey:You have a beginner's class, right? And that's kind of you. You have to audition for those. And then you have to keep graduating. Yeah. I know. Our viewers are freaking out right now. Jeez. Yeah. I thought they were just sort of screening, you know, but they wouldn't even let me audition. Did you have, as a little kid, did you have any kind of whimsy in your head? Like, maybe I'm funny or maybe I could do this. Was it a secret or did you tell your parents? Did you tell David? Or was it just... No, I mean, yeah, as a kid, I did want to act. I thought, yeah, I did. And my family, everyone was funny.
7:49And I was the youngest, so I was the least funny.
7:53Dana Carvey:How many kids? Three. Okay. Five and... five in arms. I had three older brothers and a younger sister, 20 parents. Were you the funny one? Or was it? Everybody was funny, but that was more my specialty because I was doing little impressions in the early 60s. Oh, gross. Dating myself. Attention seeker. I was an introverted extrovert or an extroverted introvert. I see you as a kindred spirit. I I don't think you're on or I don't see you as always on. No. No, no, no, no. I'm not always on. But when you're on, you're funny as hell. Oh, thanks. Well, there's evidence on television. We've got some evidence.
8:41Dana Carvey:Let's look at a clip. Let's go to the tape. Season five of Friends. Let's go to the phones. You've lost your bicycle. The exit is breathtaking. No, but I also would imitate Lily Tomlin, Edith Ann. Oh my gosh. Of course. I would, you know, like I would, I would offer my entertainment services at school. I, I offered to go from class to class. I worked out with like scarves to do like the dream Tevye's dream from Fiddler on the Room. Oh, yikes. And I offered graciously. You pitch this to a teacher? To my teacher. I said, I said, I'm put together this thing. Should I just do it for the class? And she went, sure.
9:30And I did. And I said, now I could do this for all the other classes. I've got my back and I can go like, what was wrong with me? Yeah. Something's wrong. Or how wonderful. How wonderful. That's how I look at it. Like be so confident, you know, and she went, sure. Go to the class. She's like, kill five minutes of class. I don't care.
9:51Dana Carvey:Like, were you consistently confident throughout the grades? Did you have years where you're the star and other years you're a little down or was it just consistently you were like one of the most popular school kids? No, I don't think I was one of the most popular. I mean, in grade school, I was confident. And yeah, I had friends and I was like, I'm going to start a David Cassidy fan club. Everyone's invited and the moms would come. Everyone talked to me like I was an adult. I didn't understand, but everyone treated me like I was a little older and I think it's because of my brother and sister and being older and I had their I stole their sense of humor and their jokes and you know I was gonna say that because I was gonna say I'm three boys in our family and I have to say there's everyone's a little bit funny and I'm more like a research paper like a compilation because you can always borrow like from your life so this happened with Chris Farley like his brothers would go that thing he does is mine.
10:51It's like, well, he got on TV and he's reaching for straws at a certain point. He's like, that thing was funny. And you know. Yeah. He had the guts to take it public. Yeah. Most people aren't using it actively. So you just go, I can borrow what my mom says. You know, it's like, it's funny to me, but so you're like, yeah, you got little things here and your parents were funny. Is that what you said? Yeah. My dad was very funny. Yeah. He was deal he was really funny and that makes it fun to be fun or try to make him laugh when you're little yeah well i mean i didn't make anyone laugh oh but um you know sadly i thought you were killing
11:31Dana Carvey:it at school at school yeah at school oh at school tougher crowd did your brother ever put you in a sleeping bag and then tie it off and leave you there no oh well that happened to my wife so I was just curious oh shoot no no David's no they were good to me I mean unless everyone was fighting you know but for the most because I mean didn't siblings always try to kill each other it felt like most of my childhood with three older brothers was cut it out just cut it out stop but mostly it was rough and tumble fun I mean we had movies that were touchstones because there was no VCRs or anything you know if what was your, like my sister was obsessed with Splendor in the Grass with Lord Beatty and Natalie Wood.
12:19Dana Carvey:Oh, and it came on once a year and she commandeered the television. Did you have stuff in your formative years that was just mind blowing besides your crush on David Cassidy, which my wife also had a mad crush? Yeah, I think I did. I did. I played David Cassidy on an SNL sketch. Oh, wow.
12:39Dana Carvey:You played everything on an SNL sketch. Very well, by the way. So much fun. But my sister, you know, she's the oldest. She's eight years older than me. And we would watch Father Knows Best and Leave It to Beaver reruns. And she had to sneak Leave It to Beaver because my father, when she was younger, wouldn't let her watch it. Because that's bullshit. That's not what people are like. That's not what a family is. Stop it. Yeah. That's pretty advanced. Oh, because they were too nice to each other? Yeah, they were too, like, formal and nice. Well, gee. Well, gee whiz. Like, that infuriated him. Well, golly, Wally.
13:25Dana Carvey:Yeah, that guy was the original Garth. I just figured out. And I have the same birthday as Jerry Mathers. Oh, really? He kind of talked like Garth, didn't he? Hey, well, golly, Wally, I don't know what you're doing. By the way, and the Mathers lived in our neighborhood and Sean Mathers was in my class. Whoa. The younger, younger brother of Jerry. Yeah. I always sort of, you seem a little more, you just always seem very together to me. That's why people feel like you're older when you're younger, because something about you seem like you're very together and suffer no fools. So, oh, yeah, I don't know.
14:02But you've suffered some fools along the way. I think I'm generous with fools.
14:07Dana Carvey:I want you to right here. Well, you've been generous to me so far. I won't connect the dots. No, I've been nervous to do this because you guys are legends. Crazy. Oh, good. Yeah. Has anyone called you a legend yet? Yes, I think so. When does the legend thing come in? No. Nobody? Not even John? Not to my face. No, yeah. No, John certainly hasn't. but john's been very sweet and generous and good i have to say i think he's very proud of that he loves to tell the story yeah and i said do this and do this and then she went there you know he loves to be the person yeah advising yeah it's a role that he really enjoys yeah he loves that story i've heard so much it i definitely have talked to your brother david on the phone a few times where John has put him on.
14:56Dana Carvey:Say hello to David. He's a doctor. It's May West. It's 1940s. I mean, it's both. But anyway, it's nice to have someone that's in the business that you could ask questions to like Saturday Live is a huge deal. You're just auditioning and then you're like, what's it like just doing this or just auditions and readings? And, you know, I don't know how to cold read. Like when I started, I had no one really to go to. It's good to have someone that's been there. Yeah. Well, I mean, and the good thing John said was, groundlings, listen, respond, don't take them personally, because some of them are kind of unhappy.
15:33And that was true. I saw that. I saw it because then he got on Saturday Night Live, and there were one or two groundlings, because I thought, you know, it's okay to say, like, so what brought you here? I said, oh, well, I grew up with John Levitz. And they went, oh, okay. So bitter that he got on Saturday night live.
15:53Dana Carvey:Oh, bitter and envious. You know, that is the thing about show business, no matter what, except maybe Eddie Murphy or something, most of us needed a break or hadn't something had to happen. Yeah. Um, and there's whimsy to that. And you know, people, I know so many standups, great standups, not famous, had good careers in the clubs, but just didn't get, did some pilots, went on the tonight show, but didn't get that little turn. So it breeds, um, weirdness. Right. Then why not me? Or that wasn't deserved if someone else got it and I didn't, which is that always mystified me. It's like, what do you mean?
16:32I mean, even if you think it's all luck, then, you know, why not them and not you this time? How about you just think this time? I used to go on showcases at the improv like Dana did, like they'd say, we're going to bring a cat. they're doing a sitcom whatever they're going to look at they want to look at 10 comics and this is sort of the look female man whatever and we do it and someone would get it and i'd always be practicing going why them just in case i didn't get it and then uh but it's true like it's like it's hard to complain when it's an even playing field like you all went on in front of them yeah and they go that one and you go wait how do i figure out how i'm the victim here i'll figure
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19:42Dana Carvey:Did you have nightmare auditions before, Friends, that humiliated you and made you think maybe it's not going to happen? No, not the auditions didn't make me think it's not going to happen. But I had one nightmare audition. I finally, I was so excited because I got to audition for Larry Sanders with Gary Shandling. Great. And then whoever else was in the room. And I thought, okay, great. I'll improvise a little too. And I think, and I don't remember exactly what I did, but I scared Gary. I know that. Was there sides or did he just do his thing of, I'll say something like this and you say something like that?
20:29I don't I'm trying to remember because I was just sort of the character was Janine Garofalo ultimately did it. Which is right. Oh that was there for a full time character. Yeah and I remember because I knew how to audition I had a great cold reading class and audition class which was just you're not there to make friends you're not there to chit chat you're there to do the audition be polite and everything. and then just get going. And so it's sort of, I said something and he, Gary made sort of like a joke and I played along as an improviser with the sort of like, oh, now we're in a fight. You know what I mean?
21:16Dana Carvey:I see, yeah. And he just went, okay, should we read it? And I said, yeah, absolutely, yeah. We did it. And he said, okay, well, thank you. And we'll be in touch. And I went, all right, thank you very much. And I walked out. I'm walking down the hall. I heard the door open. And I turned around. And he was there going, okay, bye-bye. We will be in touch. We really will. And I went, okay. What was that? I thought, did I scare him? What happened? What did I do? I was playing. Oh, they didn't know I was playing. Is that what it was? Did you ever run into Gary after friends and everything? Does he remember?
21:58Dana Carvey:Did he ever remember that? I forgot to ask him, but I did run into him. I ran into him after we had our first day of auditions for this HBO show I did called The Comeback. Comeback. Oh, yes. And HBO and Chris Albrecht and Carolyn Strauss, they had no idea what we were pitching. Just write it. We wrote it and they said, we still don't get it. Why don't we just shoot it? Because back when your Michael Patrick King was working with, we'll just shoot a pilot. Okay. Great. So when we had the auditions for the pilot, that's the first time they saw me as the character. Because it didn't read on the page like it was hilarious.
22:42But then they saw me doing it. And so after that, I went to something. I can't remember what. And Gary Shanley was there. And he went, oh. I talked to Chris Albrecht today. He says, he said, you're brilliant. That's good to know. That's really good. And I thought, Oh, good. So yeah, I didn't feel like bringing up, I think I scared you. Yeah.
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23:08Dana Carvey:I think that was smart. I mean, Gary was a really complicated and he was, he was hard, harder on himself than anybody else. And I was doing Larry Sanders once I did a few times and He just writes on a piece of paper and just hands it to me, you know, between takes. And it just says, I hate myself. He's funny, but it was just. Yeah. The torture. Comeback was also like. It was sort of like a curb type. That was type that type, right? It wasn't improvised at all. Oh, it wasn't. It seemed like. Oh, acting. That's because of the camera stuff. Maybe it was like that. It was sort of like. Oh, the cinema verite.
23:50Dana Carvey:the office did it kind of. Yeah, it was right after the British office, the office. Right. But just before. There was one before the American office. What's going on? You know nothing. You are nothing. Sorry. You can't ever get him out of his last Golden Globes. You cannot get that out of your mind. It's one of the great moments in television when he says, you know nothing, you are nothing. Thank your God and fuck off. and now the show anyway when you do the comeback do you so that is it looks like it's right after friends so yeah it was right after friends and it's with uh you said sex the city patrick king michael patrick king yeah and so you you get through that must it must have felt fun a to do something new and to do something sort of a little looser and a little rougher around the edges right And it was something no one had seen before.
24:45It was meant to just be raw footage from a reality show so that you can see just the folly of this woman thinking she's going to control it. It's her show. And, you know, just throwing herself into a meat grinder to stay in the spotlight. Yes. Yeah. and not really understanding what a reality show actually is and that was before housewives there was just anna nicole and uh the osbournes the osbournes seemed like the first one i remember
25:23Dana Carvey:that went huge yeah yeah that was an inspired idea it was it was very interesting i think people would talk a lot about it because it was just it's always great when you get an idea a little out of the blue that everyone goes oh okay yeah yeah no that was very it was that was very very rewarding i have to say i mean because you've done this six seasons that whatever you did all that with the live audience which brings its its rock and roll and all its pressure and then you do this whole new thing it must have felt really good like oh yeah i can also do this just yeah no it was a different tone yeah yeah and luckily while i was doing friends i was doing independent films a lot, which was fun because there are no stakes at all.
26:07Yeah.
26:09Dana Carvey:Especially when your day job is friends. Yeah. Oh, darn. I hope it does well. We have one to go back to. See you guys in 26 weeks. In fact, I thought, and when I'm done with friends, I mean, I'll just do independent films. And then they went away because. And now it's all live streaming. And now it's all streaming. Yeah. You're might as well bring it up. No good deed. Oh, yeah. Ray Romano. Yeah. He was on this podcast. Oh, yeah. We love Ray Romano. Yeah. That must have been fun. Yeah. He's a gentle giant. Like I was surprised how self-deprecating he is and how open he is because he's a big guy.
26:53Dana Carvey:Yeah. And he does not wear that on his sleeve at all. He's just very real. Yeah. Yeah, he claims to be insecure and, you know, well, and he might be, but we were talking once and I said, but you're not mean to anybody. Like most insecure performers find someone or something to blame everything on, right? Like, we didn't give me the right lines or, you know, that stuff. Or some stooge to shit on occasionally and just little put downs. Yeah. leverage their power over you know that that character right he but that's not ray doesn't do that and he said oh no that's because i i think i'm to blame for everything i just blame myself i think he really sinks into these things he's not just doing it to kill time like we were doing the mirage dana knows we were doing like a both of us were not sort of residency doing stand-up but he gets into like these indie movies and like this thing it's just good little things and he really puts a lot of heart and soul into him it feels like to me yeah and and wants them all really to do well like really into it instead of just like I'll do this I'll do a week on this if you pay me it's more like let's get into it nail it yeah yeah no I think he has a reason for everything he chooses to do yeah you had a Luke on there I was just watching it in the other room because I hadn't seen it I go oh shoot let's go check it out and I was there's Luke and And everywhere you turned, I was like, oh, good.
28:26Oh, Dennis Leary I saw. Oh, yeah. And how fun. He used to be. I used to know him a little more in the old days. But so how fun is it? That's a fun thing to do. And you did it. And it's on right now because I'm watching it right now. Yeah. On Netflix. It's on Netflix right now.
28:42Dana Carvey:And will you introduce the premise? I researched the premise of the show, which is very interesting. Me? Yeah. Yeah, you. Oh, yeah. Okay. I could do it, but I think you can do it. It's tough to explain. There's a couple who's empty nesters. They're selling their house. Right so far. I know. It seems to be... The details we get into later. There's some secrets surrounding the house and their life there. And then you have the people who come to the open house and desperately want this house and whatever's going on in their life that somehow intersects with this couple. Yeah. And the producer of dead to me, which had its own, I love that show.
29:35Dana Carvey:I, and I thought, uh, whoever's the mind behind that and also Christina Applegate and the name of her partner was so good. It was also on this show. Linda Cardellini. is always phenomenally good. Always phenomenal. Always. And so I'm assuming the sensibility overlap, different storylines and everything. But I did see one of the clips where you're in the kitchen and you're kind of waving the knife around. He goes, put the knife down. And it was just very smart, dry, weird, but real kind of dialogue. Like, just put the knife down. Well, I'm not going to stab you. So I saw kind of the tone in that moment, you know?
30:18Yeah. Yeah. I think we kind of played with that one, Ray and I. Sure.
30:24Dana Carvey:Good. They're taking advantage of that. You can sort of, let's make it real and surprise ourselves in the moment. Well, it's nice if they trust you to let you, you know, and aren't too like, but no, the script. Yeah. I don't think people listening know that it's not always the case to have the gift of running with something. Sometimes it's script, script, script, move on. And then you go, could you want me to try something? They're like, nope, we're good. Yeah. And so when you see it, it always feels looser if you just feel a little more into it. And take advantage of the digital cameras. I mean, going back for just a second on Shanley, he had three 16 millimeter cameras on shoulders.
31:06Dana Carvey:So there was a single on me, single on him and a two shot. So every take was its own take. Every take could be improvised, overlapped. It was all there every time. And so I just wondered, did they have a camera on Ray and a camera on you? Or was it, uh, they go, well, that was a good improv. Can you repeat it? We'll come around on you. Or did they manage the shooting? So it was just. I think there were two cameras and we may have done it more than once. Cause we did it, probably did it once. And then it was, yeah, do that thing again. I think I don't have a good memory for that stuff because once I'm done, I move on.
31:41No, none. When you when this thing comes about, do you does it perk up your ears because of the dead to me part of it? Like, though, this is this person did this. So you're already sort of intrigued and then you want to read it and then you're more intrigued. Is that sort of the way it goes? It should have been. But actually, it was. It was. So this is something exciting, we think, said the agents. They said a limited series on Netflix, and it's Liz Feldman who did. I said, dead to me. I know who that is. I love that show. Yes. And playing your husband would be Ray Romano. And I wanted to work with Ray Romano.
32:26Oh, my God, that's been like a dream. It's like, well, dreams come true. And so far, Linda Cardellini is in it. And I went, what?
32:36Dana Carvey:Yeah. I could work with Linda. So I said, I guess I should read it. But do I have to? Because it's yes. Do I have to? It's already here. And did you have to? Yeah, no, it's a good thing I read it. Because I read the first episode. And then I had a meal with Liz where I had a lot of questions. And I went, I'm basically saying yes to what has my character done? I'm not sure. we leave it at that. Did you have a read through? Did you get everyone, when everyone got together, did you read the pilot in a room? Yeah. I always find that, and I haven't done that much of it, very nerve wracking. Cause like, you know, Lisa, she's going to bring it, man.
33:13Dana Carvey:Are you kidding me? We got the A team here. Oh God. You're thinking, what's the puzzle? How am I going to say these lines? Well, that's how I felt. That is exactly. Everyone usually is nervous at that thing. Everyone's nervous. Yeah. Well, cause also, I mean, young people get nervous too, because they weren't around in the days when you would do a read-through at a pilot and then get fired based on the poor performance in the read-through. I've been in a pilot and they don't even do that many read-throughs anymore and what should I do but when I was I read for this pilot it's like basic ABC whatever and then they go read-through is great and the next day they're like hey where's this guy oh they got fired there's a new person playing them I'm like from yesterday?
33:56What happened? From the read-through? Yeah. They're like, oh, they bombed. I'm like, they did? Like, you don't even notice. You're like, what are they looking at? I don't even know. That's what scares me. Like, how about a rehearsal and a run-through to see if they bombed? Yeah, let's see. Give them one more goddamn swing at it. Like, it's terrifying. You hired them. Yeah. It's quick decisions. It's all.
34:19Dana Carvey:And then what was your first day of shooting with Ray? Did you have your scripts in your hand? Let's get it on its feet, people Alright, quiet everybody Alright, we got Lisa Number one and number two are gonna run lines Alright, go ahead anytime And then you do it five times in a row There's little titters from the crew And then less and less And then finally just dead silence Alright, we're ready to shoot it Your confidence is totally fine We beat it to death, let's shoot it Beat it to death will be the sequel To No Good Deed Beat it to death Dead to me, no good deed, beat it to death That's so good That's funny I wanted to make it clear for your listening audience Yeah We won't give too much more away of that Titles are tough But it's on Netflix right now And all eight shows are available You can binge it tonight if you want And it is good I mean, it is bingeable Someone was talking about it the other night It's great but I saw it.
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38:08I want to ask you a little bit about Romy and Michelle, because I know you get it a lot, but it's such a, such a big one, especially when it came out and you must still hear about it all the time. It was such a cool one. You still have the Halloween costumes, girl. I love it when, when you do something that's a Halloween costume. It's so fun. Yeah. Yeah. That is fun. And when was that? What was that? Was 97? 97 yeah maybe 96 movie heydays that's right around when movies were like such it's so fun how to do opening weekend wow it was number two it was in variety even my mom would go it looks like it was number one i don't know something something with a car chase in it i think i don't Fast and the Furious 1.
39:00That was before Titanic.
39:02Dana Carvey:The Vin Diesel story. It was a doc. Yeah, but I remember doing talk shows for that, and it was like, you know what I like about this? Jay Leno, actually, who's very nice. Well, I'll say it, and then you can DJ. Okay, he'll do Jay Leno. And he said, you know what I like about this? That it's two women, but you're not man-bashing. You know? It's two women, and you're funny and it's fun and it's not against men.
39:32Dana Carvey:You know what I like about this? You know, you're not man-banshing. You're not just two women having fun. You're not bashing the men. And it's just a great little movie. You know, I mean, I thought it was tremendous. I thought it was tremendous. There was no man-banshing at all. I'll say it one more time and then I'll let you talk. No man-banshing in the whole thing. You know, you got to be careful with the man-banshing because you don't know what you're going to do. Sorry. I got a little silly. How is this? that's so funny but i mean yeah but it wasn't about men it's a big victory that was that's that was your victory listen we didn't do a man bashing was helman louise man bad i'm thinking there were there were abusive men and predatory men and oh yeah oh in that way like so helman louise had brad pitt seducing sarah saran susan saran or something so but they were escaping a bad husband another bad guy okay it's as if like right that's not fair because that never happens yeah wait no it happens a lot i mean if a woman like the scene quite quite a bit where the estranged husband is not happy and he has a weapon right i mean if a woman is missing who's her husband who's her boyfriend you know that's the first place you look but um but it was just funny to me that it still needed to be contextualized like is it for in relation to men yeah yes yeah and uh it was very you know what i get about most of my comedies is you know what i like it's so fucking dumb that's what we need yeah but we do i know i love it believe me i'm doing one right now um it's hard but Then I say thank you.
41:18It was clever, cute, fun, and a smart little comedy that, you know, and then, I don't know, so you do it and you don't, I don't, you might not expect a lot. You don't know what to expect. It does well, right? Yeah, I don't expect a lot. It did fine. It could have done better if it weren't rated R.
41:34Dana Carvey:Oh, was it rated R? Oh. PG-13 is the way to go. Interesting. I thought that was a huge mistake and it was to save. Oh, for that movie? I don't remember one thing R about it. What was it? Janine Garofalo said fuck off, I think, two times or three times or something. Over one and you get an R, I think. And the big stand was, I'm not changing Janine Garofalo's fuck offs. And I went, I don't think she'd mind. She wouldn't care. If it's holding back another$50 million. If it's like 40 % of the net profit, what are you going to do? Unless it's just a cause. Make a movie called fuck off, you know, and do that.
42:1714 year old girls would have gone maybe more than once to the movies by themselves to see it.
42:22Dana Carvey:I mean, those would come over and over. Because they all wanted to be those characters. I watched it. And when I heard R, I went, OK, who do you think this movie's for? Though. Yeah. A hundred percent. I can't. That's 30 year old men. Right. Who goes over and over? You get lucky. They go over and over. and that's young women would have gone to see that. Yeah. I thought that was a mistake personally. Thousand percent. PG-13 is the move. Remember Greece is the move? PG-13 is the move, but I don't know. Greece is the word. Greece is the word. Have you like, so you grew up in the nineties as a star.
43:00I'm sorry. Greece is the move. It's the move. It's the move. Okay.
43:08Dana Carvey:John Travolta was an incredible businessman. man. I think he got, you got, you got some publishing on that. And also on, uh, cause he, he came around and hung out. He's a super nice guy. Oh my God. Nice guy in show business potentially I've ever met. I mean, we all went to, we all went to Bruce, uh, no, Tom Hanks's birthday party up at, um, in up on, uh, whatever the planetarium in Griffith park observatory. and everyone was there and you'd say hello to someone you could tell they're like oh my god i'm talking to you right now but springsteen's over there they were panicked trying you know so and travolta just wanted to hang out with us and talk about airplanes because i have a fear of flying he goes you know an airplane's only as safe as its maintenance you know but anyway he was just a great he is a great guy he's one of his house yeah i always see that picture of his house with a 747 in the driveway i made it big because he pulls out he goes going to work on
44:11747 yeah in order 707 707 from an inch longer but yes yeah i flew on his plane oh you did and he was flying it i did a movie with him what was it what was the name of the movie like 99 fever no yeah yes you don't remember me michael the angel the angel movie no no no no no but norah efron directed it was called lucky numbers i think what was it called i i'm looking to see if i have anything looking but anyway it didn't do well it won norah efron john travolta movie it didn't do well but i got to work with him and he is the nicest yeah it's something about him because it's it's not about him
45:04Dana Carvey:yeah and he didn't like how big he was I've always found it was interesting that Tarantino because he did the talking dog movies with Kirstie look who's talking the talking baby yeah talking baby so huge with Urban Cowboy and then Tarantino you know the studio is like you know you want travolta really you know and he said he knew because he would walk around la with travolta and it was still stop traffic yes people would swarm good looking tall but what about sarnet fever and grease almost back to back and you go yeah i think it was back to back and the hugest hit and then another monster hit both with music Sick, bull.
45:50Crazy. Right. And then Urban Cowboy. And then Face Off. And then. Oh, yeah. Face Off. And Michael was huge. Everything. Michael was huge. And Luke was talking. Everything. I mean.
46:03Dana Carvey:Yeah. And then Pulp Fiction kind of put him in this other kind of lane. And then he went from there. But anyway. Yeah. John, if you're listening, you're always welcome to come on and we'll just talk about. Yeah. Deborah Winger. We'll say, what was that all about? that's urban cowboy yeah i saw your on stupid instagram i saw your um urban cowboy with deborah winger sketch and you played jr older like two days ago and uh that was i'm talking dana and then lisa i even forgot that i did oh with deborah winger yeah yeah friends friends is so big i saw a instagram today about you guys splitting a check and i saw it an hour before this i'm like splitting a check well you were like in the in the real show you're trying oh oh you're deciding it was show uh 108 69 oh yes 108 69 yes that one that's a great one that was one of the good ones yeah and uh you're deciding what to pay and i'm like it's still i mean you don't have to talk about it too much but it still keeps going and going we don't yeah it does it does the gift it keeps giving did you ever wear a disguise like at peak friends of mania it's too famous too famous did you ever did any of the cast ever wear a disguise not that i know of yeah okay no i don't think so i mean also it wasn't so bad for me because i'm i'm married to a person who's not in this business.
47:34So there's no sort of interest in, there wasn't any interest in, how's that couple doing?
47:44Oh, out there with the tabloids.
47:46Dana Carvey:So you're not on Daily Mail a lot, I've noticed. And is that a disappointment at all? No. I don't follow you. You kind of think everyone's out in the tabloids, but it's really kind of similar characters a lot. And then you realize, oh, so many people are not pursuing that path of celebrity uh within their career and you forget about them you forget they even exist yeah just their work you know yeah that's okay too yeah some lean into it and some some of you can't totally avoid it but some really lean into it and some tip off more people tip off than regular people know because really are they at the bowling alley and there's five photographers there like why and also there are certain restaurants if you go to them no there will be paparazzi there yeah they'll call it then to be fair there are some people and you know if something's going on in your life you know they just stalk you yeah they wait in front of the house to to yeah see where you're going to go and what you're going to do that's definitely legit yeah that that that does happen i think to a lot of people for sure that's horrible you know to be nice to people who don't know what show business is and you're at some school function and they sidle up and, hey, how do you make that friends type show?
49:08Dana Carvey:You know, what do you, you know, those kind of nice, sweet people are really just interested in wanting to say the right thing. Yeah. They just, you know, well, we rehearse a lot. Yeah. I didn't get a lot of that. But you know what I get a lot of? Oh, yeah. I don't know. I didn't watch that show. Why do they always say that? They really want to let you know. And I always say, oh, sure. Yeah, I know a lot of people. There are plenty of people who didn't watch TV. It's like, no, I mean, I watched. Okay, I liked Seinfeld a lot. And one time it was, and it's a good friend, too, who said. But that was more of a girl's show, wasn't it, friends?
49:53No, I don't think so. Was it? You know, I asked my husband. And he's like, no, it was for all guys, too. Three of us were guys.
50:01Dana Carvey:Yeah. Some people liked Wayne's World. It wasn't my cup of tea. I'll tell you that. Who? No. Has anyone ever? Oh, yeah. You just get all kinds. I guess you get all kinds. Oh, yeah. No, I don't watch those kinds of movies. We go to the art houses. It's not my thing, you know, but I guess some people really did like it. Are you from Canada? I think so. I'll have to check my driver's license. But, yeah, it's just a funny thing. And when you get inside of it, you just see all the how the gears move and the insecurity. And, you know, you're on a soundstage somewhere and it looks all greasy and ugly and stupid.
50:38Dana Carvey:And then you see it later in the film. It's all shiny. Yeah. Color corrected. And so it's it's a show. I think there are people who just want to let you know, like, I'm not a fan. So you can trust me. Yeah, that's true. I'm not after anything. Right. I don't want anything. I'm not a fan. Yeah. I couldn't care less that you were famous and on TV. I just like you. I don't care about celebrities is the number one person that cares about celebrities. That's the first telltale. Do you host fundraisers? Do you do that kind of stuff? I have for things I'm involved in, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I do. Do you have, do you have stick?
51:13Dana Carvey:Do you have like a stick? I always let them know. Do the thing from grade school. Yeah. Tevye's dream, everybody. Dana when I was on Just Shoot Me it was right around the time of Friends and when I heard they were getting favored nations I was hoping it meant all sitcoms so we'd all get the same whatever they got turns out it was not no that was hard to get oh yeah I mean they wanted nothing more than for us to split up divide and conquer whoever thought of that was smart keep the team Yeah. It was Courtney or Schwimmer, depending on who you're talking to. But Courtney's pretty smart about stuff.
52:07Dana Carvey:She'd worked a little. I don't know her trajectory exactly. I remember from the Springsteen videos when she rocketed out, you know, right? Right. She probably may have had a little more experience. Well, she was on Family Ties and then she was Ace Ventura. But I think the first minute she made any money, she bought a house and then was flipping houses. And I think made more doing that. If I had her money, I'd throw mine away. I love when show business people leverage their income and make money and take care of themselves. She's so smart. I mean, also just like with blocking, we would block scenes and you'd be stuck.
52:48And Courtney would say, well, you should just stand over there and you do that. and that way it's easier and she was always right oh you need somebody like that also the one when we were first like shooting the pilot or i don't know if it was then or we got picked up she said listen y 'all i did seinfeld they help each other all the time like if you think i could be doing something funnier tell me you gotta tell me and we need to help each other out so that set a tone that I think carried through the whole 10 years for us.
53:24Dana Carvey:That's really cool. Yeah. Otherwise it can get, you know, I mean, David, you've been on shows where it can get tense amongst casts don't normally love each other. Also if things happen or someone gets more money or someone gets more jokes or something, there's always trouble. Even photo shoots are weird sometimes. Yeah. So many little things you don't see coming and you go, oh, itchy, itchy. Yeah. But you're all like. On SNL, it was different. Sorry. Go ahead. I was saying like, and just shoot me, even though it wasn't obviously a friend's show, but we did about seven years and George Segal, Wendy Mellon, we had all done stuff.
54:06Yeah. And also had good and bad things. Yeah. And so everyone was like at a point where like we're really lucky. Yeah. So it was a little easier to get through it all because we appreciated it. We were like, hey, this is going to go away tomorrow. And so I think it might be harder for you guys because when you're one of your first things, if not your first thing, is so monstrous. Yeah. I don't know how you think nothing else could be like this. It's too good. You go, and then I'll do this and it'll be it. And then it just it just seems like it's a weird world to to deal with. Yeah. I mean, we did all fully appreciate that was the other rare thing because we would check in and check each other all the time, you know, and we had to answer to each other if we were going to create a disturbance, you know, like, I got to do this.
55:03Is that all right with you guys if I leave early and my stand in does that, you know. So it was great to be accountable. Everyone was accountable to everybody else. And then we'd all go off and like they'd let us, which was really nice, go do a movie and, you know, you come back and shoot your pickups and stuff. And everyone would say, well, I'll tell you one thing, movie making is for the fucking birds because no one's running up, offering me a sandwich there. here great craft service and you know we rehearse most of the time and the more you do it unreal yeah it's like the more you do it the more you get paid and the fewer hours
55:49Dana Carvey:i think it was either david spade or tony danza that told me that he got it down to 17 hours i don't know it was not a week you know just for the read through the thing the blocking just um Will and Grace got pretty tight. They were across from us. And they got very... I was jealous. I'm going to lunch. They're all driving away in their Porsches. I'm like, guys, this is a half day. And they're like, no, this is their whole day. And I'm like, you're joking. Wow. Well, I think also they had Jim Burroughs. Yes. Most of them, right? So, yeah. I mean, they knew what they were doing. And then they probably had early run-throughs.
56:28Dana Carvey:Yeah. Early run-throughs are great. Yeah, the writers like it, right? They write a draft. You run it through. and then they don't really need you for a while. Like, okay, now we're just going to go work. It falls on them. But at first they would have us do the run-throughs at like five because they wanted to be in the writer's room most of the day and then come see it. But then they'd have to do all the rewrites that night. So then they'd be up really late.
56:57We got ours down at one o 'clock on like a Wednesday to shoot on Friday. Right. And then so you come in, rehearse, go through everything once, run through and you split. But did you do a Monday read through or a first day read through whenever you shot? We did. We did the first seven years. I think. And then they had. We also would shoot. They'd have a start at like six or seven at night on a Friday. How late you go? Till like two in the morning. Oh, shit. Really? Yeah. and it took six hours to shoot our show um they did a lot of rewrites because the audience i guess would get tired of a joke so oh okay well maybe i don't know they just wanted it to be as good as it could be we'd have hair and makeup changes yeah sometimes you know i don't know a load of youth prisoners in the audience they would go hey they didn't like it i'm like well we liked it all We can't totally go by them.
57:58I know. I would think it's a, this is for a television audience though. Yeah. Not the people that would come here. Yeah. And also you guys had more pressure because it's a bigger, it's probably a little more overthought because it's a big deal. How does this fit in? People like this joke. I could see that going a little longer. It took, I mean, it was sort of notorious for taking a lot of time to. Would you get fidgety? No, No, and luckily we were all, you know, young. And you knew it was your hard night. You knew ahead of time this is going to be the whole. Yeah, and we knew. But it got to me when I was pregnant and felt like I had a flu for seven months.
58:40And then to be there at two in the morning, that was a little too tough. My husband had to come drive me home a couple times. Sure, I get it. And then I think we just said, how about we start earlier? Someone got that. Where was Courtney earlier? Yeah. Yeah. And, and we were told, yeah, I don't know if we can get the audience and for friends. Really? People can get off work if they have tickets to the show and people fly here on vacation to see the show. I'm pretty sure. So we would, we started earlier and then, um, we'd have two audiences. oh you oh wow no one can sit for that long and watch if you throw him some fucking jelly beans pizza pizza is the stock thing that goes out yeah i yeah the audience warm-up guy that guy gets burned out um can you imagine six hours he had to keep everybody i would hear it they'd go hey and there's david spade come say hi and i'm like don't make me come i'm running my line really yeah but abadoo and then they say hey do this and then but you know you feel for the would you i'd go over yeah yeah because they uh they're there they're super tired i don't even know if we gave him pizza i don't know what happened this guy had a million six hours oh yeah we had to give him pizza give him something let him live a hard candy a butterscotch wasn't going to be enough i don't think we got a bowl of skittles don't forget it's at the bottom of the stairs skittles don't go crazy though when did peak tv and i mean was big bang theory the last
1:00:28Dana Carvey:water cooler show it or was it friends or i think big bang theory maybe it was the last kind of big big network sitcom i think so expensive now you get like maybe eight 800 people or whatever it is it's a best been renewed with a 1.1 yeah 0.8 yeah amazing but i think they want more to try to make multi-cameras work again just because you know it's on a stage it's not as expensive to shoot and it travels really well something about it works it's been working for years it's been working for 50 years so 60 70 like it can but you know what it always seemed to me things that didn't work we're usually missing um funny people and good jokes right good joke writers you know it's pretty basic it's good it works you know it is basic but you know family was a good big one too that was one of them yeah but it wasn't in front of an audience it wasn't Oh, that's right.
1:01:35That's right. And it also had the docu-sitch. You're like, and also that's not really what we're talking about right now. And I'm like, yep. I just can't wait. What documentary is this? Yeah, I know. Who's watching this 10-year documentary about this dumb family?
1:01:53Dana Carvey:I've been in situations on a movie where the brain trust is around the camera and there's a take and they're bent over. We're like, it's the funniest thing. And I go, we're so fucked. It's over. The brain or dailies they used to have. The brain press is like, oh my God. You're like, no, this is death. You can tell it's over. Yeah, but. Although I have to say, I'm not a great judge. Like when I see something and I think, oh, that's too broad. I don't know if that's very good. And then it's, you know, the audience's favorite thing that's ever happened. There is that element of comedy where you're like, really?
1:02:32Dana Carvey:That was the one that killed. Yeah. Yeah. Or you do a show, like a movie, and you go, I remember some movies I did where I go, this was the scene that tested the highest. Just because it's like one shot. But when people watch it for 10 years, like a Romy and Michelle type movie, some of my movies, they go, these are my favorite things. And I'm like, it's not what it was the first time when it came out. It switches. They see it so many times. Now they're like this and like that. The real throwaway jokes and that kind of stuff. But initially, the big jokes are like the easiest ones to get. Yeah.
1:03:03After the movie, they go, did you like that one? And everyone goes, sure. And they're like, okay, that's your favorite scene.
1:03:11Dana Carvey:All right, we're going to fill out our cards today. It's a scale of one to five. And just, you know. Remember what we talked about. Remember what we talked about earlier. And thanks for participating. And we sure are appreciated. What's a word of David Spade's character? Stupid. Okay. Well, that's not one of the choices. We're going to have you just write them down on your card and hand them in to the front. If you thought the dog was cute, we have another special card to put it on. Exactly. That's exactly what those test screenings are. I know. Who would you want to see more of? Yeah. Who should we cut out of the movie and fire immediately?
1:03:54Lisa, thank you for talking to us. We'll let you go. It's very, very nice to have a long chat with you. No good deed. No good deed. Thanks. Thank you.
1:04:02Dana Carvey:Netflix now. We enjoyed it, Lisa. We'll see you around campus, as they say. All right. Bye-bye. Bye.
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