RE-RELEASE - Sebastian Maniscalco

19 Nov 2025 · 56 min · 28 chapters

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In short

This episode is a re-release conversation centered on comedian Sebastian Maniscalco’s stand-up style, career path, and stagecraft.

Key claims

he didn’t pursue comedy for money; he built success via a “slow burn” rather than a TV/movie breakout. He describes his comedy as “physicality and musicality,” using act-outs that let audiences laugh without needing to listen for punchlines. He also discusses how crowds affect timing (pauses, silence, and whether audiences “bite” on dirtier or throwaway bits), and how he mixes older “hits” with new material on tour. Notable examples include his pool-deck bit about a man clipping toenails with bandages and jumping in the pool, and his “chopping broccoli” bit that escalates from club performances to an SNL sketch. He recounts getting sciatica for two years, using Pilates (Lagree) to recover, and a hospital story involving Frank Sinatra checking in next to him in 1998.

Guests

Sebastian Maniscalco (comedian). The host/interviewer is David (likely David Spade, speaking throughout).

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Chapters

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Introducing Sebastian Maniscalco

3:21 to 4:10

Dana and David discuss Sebastian's unique comedic style and physicality.

Personal Anecdotes and Observations

4:10 to 5:50

The hosts share funny moments and the essence of Sebastian's humor.

“he walks around like his kid's soccer game and he goes, they're taking a break for a snack.”

Sebastian's Comedy Journey

5:50 to 8:20

They delve into Sebastian's rise in the comedy scene and his experiences.

“I was shocked that you guys, you and Pete, have done 628 episodes.”

Life Before Fame

8:20 to 10:00

Sebastian recalls his life as a waiter and early challenges in comedy.

“She's in the middle of the crowd kind of hanging out.”

Family Dynamics and Money

10:00 to 11:40

Discussion on family background, income perceptions, and the journey to success.

“So I was there for seven years in the windows lounge delivering chicken satays to every celebrity in town.”

Reflections on Fame and Relationships

11:40 to 14:01

Sebastian and the hosts reflect on fame's impact on relationships and family.

“I mean, that's just very Italian or Sicilian or something, right?”

Reflections on Wealth and Fame

14:01 to 15:20

Exploring the feelings of wealth, fame, and the journey in comedy.

“You just, you know, you had a place to live, hopefully, and some food.”

The Changing Landscape of Comedy

15:21 to 18:06

Discussing how comedy has evolved and the impact of social media fame.

“become a middle act me too and then to become a headliner i was just middle So, yeah, David, yeah, go ahead.”

Sinatra Encounter Story

18:07 to 20:15

Sharing a memorable encounter with Frank Sinatra in a hospital.

“I became an army issue hyper fan at age 40.”

Childhood Influences in Comedy

20:16 to 21:44

Discussing childhood influences and the impact of television and toys.

“I never met John Ritter, but heavily influenced.”
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Sebastian's Unique Comedy Style

21:45 to 26:04

Exploring Sebastian's comedic style, physicality, and audience connection.

“And then the rhythms, you know, the way you say people, you're so exasperated.”

Navigating Comedy Specials

26:05 to 28:00

Insights on creating new material for comedy specials and audience expectations.

“So for me, I just shot my special last week and I'm still on tour.”

The Challenge of Modern Comedy

28:00 to 29:53

Discussing the pressure on comedians to deliver fresh material amidst easy access to past performances.

“I mean, I'm sure you guys run into it, the impressions that you do.”

The Challenge of Modern Comedy

30:06 to 30:40

Discussing the pressure on comedians to deliver fresh material amidst easy access to past performances.

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The Challenge of Modern Comedy

30:46 to 31:52

Discussing the pressure on comedians to deliver fresh material amidst easy access to past performances.

“And honestly, completely changes the way I look at my closet.”

The Challenge of Modern Comedy

31:56 to 32:06

Discussing the pressure on comedians to deliver fresh material amidst easy access to past performances.

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The Price of Comedy Tickets

32:11 to 34:32

Reflecting on the rising costs of comedy tickets and the expectations of audiences.

“Cause I was said, Oh, you know, I'm just trying to warm up.”

Evolution of Comedy and Performers

34:33 to 37:14

Exploring the evolution of comedy styles and how performers adapt to changing audience tastes.

“I watched it for the first time a week ago.”

Influences and Inspirations in Comedy

37:15 to 39:27

Discussing early influences in comedy and the comedians that shaped their careers.

“Like, who were you who were you looking at?”

Confidence in Comedy Performances

39:28 to 42:00

Discussing the importance of confidence and crowd dynamics in successful comedy performances.

“Also, I liked when the, the, the, the talk shows had people on the couch and you would come out and they, you would goof around with the girl next to you, next to you, everybody would be like having fun.”

The Art of Timing in Stand-Up Comedy

42:00 to 43:30

Learn about the importance of timing and crowd engagement in stand-up performance.

“Because the eyes get big, a bead of sweat and it ain't funny all of a sudden.”

Navigating Audience Reactions

43:30 to 45:30

Explore how comedians adjust their material based on audience feedback and reactions.

“I'm looking at my list going, we got some dirty ones coming up toward the end.”

The Physicality of Performance

45:30 to 47:10

Discuss the physical challenges comedians face during performances and their impact.

“What happened between last night and tonight?”

Creating and Naming Comedy Specials

47:10 to 49:20

Understand the thought process behind naming comedy specials and the creative challenges involved.

“I went to go sprint from one side to the other.”

The Challenges of Acting in Comedy

49:20 to 51:06

Examine the differences between stand-up and acting, including the frustrations actors face during filming.

“The name was so nondescript that for two years in this podcast, neither of us could remember the name of his current special.”

Directing and Filming Dynamics

51:50 to 56:00

Delve into the dynamics of directing and filming comedies, highlighting experiences from iconic films.

“I, you know, people go, I'll watch your special and give you a name.”

Filming Experiences and Director Interactions

56:00 to 57:30

Insights into the challenges of filming and interactions with directors.

“And then, because, you know, Farley gives it 1 ,010%.”

Sebastian Maniscalco's Impact and Friendship

57:30 to 59:20

A reflection on Sebastian Maniscalco's career and their friendship.

“back to sebastian all right well sebastian thank you bud what else can you i uh i appreciate he's He's a good guy.”
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3:22Dana Carvey:sebastian manaskolko did i say that name right you did pretty good yeah manaskolko i like to buy a vowel i like to buy a vowel yeah it was so much fun to have mom because he's one of those people i had to say in the last 10 years when you're just kind of channel surfing on these streaming and i saw a special and i stuck with it all the way through because it was new you know the physicality and the rhythm of all that stuff so he is very soft-spoken and really humble the jerkiness the uh also how he can go really low on a joke and not scream it you know yeah and the act outs that he does all over the stage the physical physical act outs and we talk about that and an injury that he got based on you know he's doing all this stuff and then boom blew out a calf or something.

4:09Even on TikTok, he's like, he walks around like his kid's soccer game and he goes, they're taking a break for a snack. In the middle of the game. What? What? What are we doing? So funny. He does his exact act cadence, but in real life situations. That's funny. He's like the Italian dad in real life. If we're looking around for those kind of scenarios, it's funny.

4:38Dana Carvey:My key to him is always the bit he did by the pool at some hotel. And a guy comes out and he goes, he starts clipping his toenails right on the pool deck. And then he's got bandages on his toes from the bleeding. Bandages. And he jumps in the pool. I got to swim with the bleeding bandage. I mean, I'm exact, but it is really next level funny to me. People rehearsing for a wedding reception. It's seven weeks in some guy's basement. They got the bye-bye baby. What? Huh? I can't get six guys to go to dinner if I give them a year notice. Now I got rehearsed. What? It's all what? What's going on? He's incredulous.

5:30Dana Carvey:He's the incredulous everyman. You know, fucking funny. Yeah, so anyway, it was really fun to talk to him. We break down his artistry and his path to stardom. He plays big theaters, lots of specials. Yep. Lots to talk about. Very successful. And a lot of great acting jobs. Sebastian, the one and only.

5:54Dana Carvey:I was shocked that you guys, you and Pete, have done 628 episodes. just the fortitude is that true that's what it said episode 628 yeah haven't uh haven't made a dime it's coming our guys tell us it's coming right around the corner just patience man i mean you know you got into this for money no listen i actually didn't and we just started doing basically a phone call he lives in Fredonia I live in Los Angeles and we're like you know what we have such a great time talking to one another let's just record it and we'll put it out there as a podcast and we did it once a week for now going on 12 years and you know we just have fun doing it it's not it's not do you read ads do you read ads yeah you read ads and still make it nothing I mean we got you got master class Yes, you got, what do you got?

6:57Dana Carvey:You got a - Zoc-Doc, you guys got Zoc-Doc? We've been there. We dated for a while, then we broke up. No, we got - We had a, we sort of just, they ghosted us. Blue Nile, right? Blue Nile is our biggest one. Yeah, Blue Nile's good. That's a big one. Diamonds, yeah. So you got the original wife. Original wife, meaning pre - I never even heard of this situation. i used my wife so attractive that people thought she'd be the second wife after i got some fame and money i go no original wife like oh okay but you had done one special but you weren't sebastian at that point right you met 2009 yeah yeah we went in 2009 i had i was just coming off Actually, yeah, I was just coming off a special two years earlier.

7:48And then, yeah, just, you know, knocking around comedy clubs. She would come with me, Addison Beltline Road and Improv. And, you know, it was we kind of came up together in the comedy world. Obviously, I was doing comedy prior to meeting her. But like, you know, when I started making a living doing it, she was kind of right there with me.

8:09Dana Carvey:Let me ask you this. This is usually the evolution of a girlfriend who might become a wife. But, okay, early on, she's up close. Maybe not the first row, but right up there. A little few weeks later, she's heard a lot. She's in the middle of the crowd kind of hanging out. Then she's sort of standing in the back. Eventually, she's in the dressing room for Moses' show and asking you how it went. And then she stops coming. That's everyone I know. That's every single. They're really excited. And then they see how the rabbit gets out of the hat. Yeah. And they're going, oh, I see all these. But anyway.

8:43Dana Carvey:No, you're right. It's just, it's a basic evolution out of the building. Yeah. Call me after. What about, did you say Addison Improv? Is that Dallas? Yeah, that's Dallas. And it's right by a freeway. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, it's right. It's the most populated restaurants per square mile, I think, in the country on Beltline Road in Dallas. I played the Dallas. I played the old Dallas improv that was on Central and Walnut. And then they opened Addison. That's how old I am. And then I started playing that one. Okay, wait a minute. Dana, go ahead. Spellbinders in Houston, anyone? Bill Hicks was my dandy little opener.

9:26Dana Carvey:No way. I was temperamental in those days. I got a hold of his caller and said, you ain't going nowhere, kid. Oh, good. I lost it. No, he was brilliant. Brilliant then, all to the way. So there's another stat of yours I just have to ask you because it's extraordinary from where you are now. The math that I did on your Wikipedia page says you were still waitering, potentially, at age 32. Yeah. Okay, that's extraordinary. I was waiting tables. Yeah, around 31, I quit the Four Seasons Hotel right here in Beverly Hills. So I was there for seven years in the windows lounge delivering chicken satays to every celebrity in town.

10:08Oh, I love it. I, uh, I would do comedy during my break. I would run to the comedy store, do a set and back pick up my table. So yeah, I, I was, uh, early thirties, uh, schlepping drinks.

10:22Dana Carvey:Don't you think, I mean, you know, when you make it and then you went on and then you, you're at this apex, I mean, it's extraordinary. Well-deserved too. so you don't you think it's better to make it later i mean are you still kind of used to it it's only been about 12 years since you went super supernova i guess in the context of your life it's still kind of new in a way or are you kind of acclimatized to the numbers yeah what what arena what how big is the arena it's arena size come on sebastian go ahead no uh you know i i'm glad it kind of all happened the way it happened. I just, you know, I had a slow burn, you know, I didn't get a TV show or a movie or anything like that, that kind of catapulted me into standup comedy in a way where I could draw a crowd.

11:13So I just did it, you know, kind of slow burn. And yeah, I mean, listen, I grew up in a working class, middle class family. And, you know, We've always kind of had to work. My dad always says, the Maniscalco family, nothing comes easy. We always got to kind of be patient, put our time in.

11:35Dana Carvey:Did he actually say the Maniscalco? Because I can't imagine my dad saying, the coffees will always. I mean, that's just very Italian or Sicilian or something, right? Yeah, it's very Sicilian. We always got to wait our turn, basically. No one bumps us to the head of the line. I still have that type of career, too, though. I mean, I have a fan base, obviously they come and see me, but like, for example, I went to the Bulls game, uh, in my hometown of Chicago last week, right? Simone Biles sitting there with her husband, Jonathan Owens. And, you know, they put you up on the, on the jumbotron. So they tell me we're putting Simone Biles up, right?

12:15She goes up there. You would have thought Michael Jordan walked in. Oh my God. You got to follow her. And then me who I just, I'm doing two sellout shows the Friday and Saturday right after that. I didn't even know they announced my name. It was almost as if a guy came out to shoot free throws during the day. That's the response I got in my hometown. So it's like, I'm still like just on the fringe of like, quote unquote, celebrity or fame. Yeah. You know, there's fun things. There's interesting facts that like Dana's probably been more famous in his life than he hasn't been. So that's probably a weird feeling because you always remember more that you weren't, but he's had such a run.

13:01And then Artie Lang, who I think you guys all know, Artie Lang told me the weirdest he felt was when he made more than his dad. It was such a weird feeling for him that what he does, which is feeling so trivial, and then he goes, wow, my dad's such a fucking hard worker. And he goes, I honestly had to go to therapy. I didn't know how to deal with that. Isn't that crazy? but I get it.

13:25Dana Carvey:My dad was a high school teacher. So Sebastian, your dad, was he somebody making six figures or 50 K or. Yeah, he's a he's a hair. He owned hair salon. So he was a hairdresser, but, you know, never, you know, never had a franchise of hair salon, just a few throughout his career, not making a fantastic living, but not, you know, we went on one vacation. We had two cars we lived in a nice home that never struggled for money but yeah i think it is kind of weird to get used to i never really even thought about making more than my father that never really even crossed my mind as far as like it's never been like you're making more money the relationship is such as like that that he's the star right sure and and i'm i'm hanging on to his co-tap but also i grew up not knowing you know my dad was kind of in and out of my life but never even knew how much anybody made.

14:21It didn't even cross your mind. You just, you know, you had a place to live, hopefully, and some food. But I didn't know numbers. I didn't know. Who knew? You know? So that's your dad, and he's the main guy in your life because he's your dad. But it's a weird feeling to get, I mean, there's times I feel, obviously, overpaid for things, and you go, just a weird feeling.

14:44Dana Carvey:You never get used to it. I don't care. I mean, because I had the same kind of thing, five kids, high school, you know. Two day old baked goods. Not one day, but two day. My mama gold County road, never had a new car, but we were super happy, man. We got a colored TV in 1965. We had an antenna. We couldn't really see anything, but it was colorful. and tana but i think i asked my wife and i don't know who you would ask but i always once in a while i'll ask her in 1979 when i met her i was in college just trying to do open mics robin williams was creeping around making everyone feel like why am i even doing this and i said did i ever say i wanted to be rich and famous ever nope that was never the goal it was to become a middle act me too and then to become a headliner i was just middle So, yeah, David, yeah, go ahead.

15:36Dana Carvey:Speak to that. I don't think that I don't think the people that have talent and are in this just for the sheer joy of making people laugh are ever looking for fame and fortune in that way. I mean, obviously, there's some outliers, but, you know, in a day and age now where everybody wants to be famous for I don't know what. I mean, you know, I feel like we're kind of like the last of the Mohicans in the sense of where we actually had to work going to the club, working on the act, the timing, the nuance, the heckling or whatever it is. But now apparently you turn your camera on and you eat a meatball and you'd say you tell people how good it is.

16:23And all of a sudden, you know, you're you're just as famous as the guy.

16:27Dana Carvey:That's so demoralizing for the young people because I talked to some talent managers a while back and I asked them, does talent matter? And they said, no, no. They think in a long career it does, but no, no, no, no. There's a kid who opens, he's handsome, he opens up jars of pickles. He does seven figures. So what do you do with that? The impressive, if your kid goes, oh my God, the guy that drinks pickle juice follows you. That's like the biggest victory of your life. You're like, oh. Everyone was good when I grew up. Don Rickles was good. Carson was good. Frank Sinatra. I mean, all great. But yeah, that's so distortive.

17:04Dana Carvey:So I don't want to go to my discussion. Go ahead. One second. Since you've been around entertainment for quite some time, have you guys ever run across a Sinatra? Do you have like a Sinatra story? Did he ever come in? I have a weird one. It's a little dark, but so it's night. This is a cigar metaphor. Sit back. No, you're not going to see what's coming. So it's 1998. I'm getting a stent in my artery at Cedars-Sinai, which, you know, it happens. I'm fine. Don't worry. So I'm there. I'm just in the, you know, I'm on the ward in my room reading a magazine. And there's this hubbub, bub, bub. And, hey, what's going on out there?

17:46Dana Carvey:He goes, Sinatra just checked in, you know. And they put him in the room next to me. And so I was just listening. I heard under my breath, M'shoin. No, he didn't. But anyway, he passed away that night. It was May 8th or 10th, 1998. Crazy. Not in my arms, but yeah. In my arms. Did you go in there and cuddle him? I wanted to, man. I became an army issue hyper fan at age 40. Before that, I didn't get it. And then when I got it, I really got it. But I did ask the cardiologist there, world-class. I go, what was Frank Sinatra like as a patient? And they were Indian. They're brilliant. they're still friends of mine.

18:25Dana Carvey:They go, it was, it was very tough, you know, because you give them the thing to blow in and see what your lungs are. Hey, get back, doc. And get, I'm going to blow this further than anybody's ever blown these bubbles in their fucking life. You know? So I don't know. Do you have a snob story, David? Are you Sebastian? That's mine. No, no, I never, I never ran across them. Was your dad a super fan? Cause Italian. So not, or no, I mean, I mean, we listened to him, but it wasn't like, you know, uh, You know, we didn't have a picture of him on the wall at the house. It was he was he was he was, you know, played on Saturday mornings while I was doing vacuuming.

19:05I remember I had to do chores on Saturday. My mother would play him around the house. But yeah, I just find him fascinating. Like, I just I don't know, like the old school type of old school. It's fun. Well, the Rat Pack at the Sands, the live album is is magical, you know, and John Lovett's

19:24Dana Carvey:told me john lovitz plays it in before he goes on every night when he does clubs he plays that to get that vibe of sinatra and dean martin that that the coolness of that but can i ask you a question because i'm just sort of curious just to put a picture on your childhood you know working class how many siblings did you have i had a sister younger about five years and so what were I like asking people these questions. TV show or movie that floated your boat in the formative years, 8, 10, 11, 12, toy or bicycle you had that you'll never forget or musical act that you blew your mind coming up? You have five seconds.

20:07It was Three's Company was my - Three's Company, yeah.

20:12Dana Carvey:John Ritter is magic. Did you ever meet John Ritter? I never met John Ritter, but heavily influenced. by my physical comedy with John Ritter. A bike or did you say a toy? Toy. He-Man. I grew up in the He-Man era. Not Stretch Armstrong? He-Man was a big He-Man doll. He-Man. I used to play football like with my He-Man doll. So it was like, you know, like He-Man. We might have gone too far. he made it for five yards and then uh uh an entertainer would be michael jackson growing up was was my vibe can i tell you my michael jackson story is it the holiday inn yeah i worked at the holiday inn and i was a busboy waiter and the jackson five came in and i would go and and weighed on them.

21:13Dana Carvey:There was Tito and Marlon. I went in Michael's room. Before the show, he ordered raw carrots. Janet, I believe as a little girl, was jumping up and down on the bed. He would sit and look at the mirror in the room. I'd give him the raw carrots. I felt bad later on because I said, you're a good looking kid, but you can maybe do a little something. I just backed off and left. Dana, that set off a whole thing with him. I know, but I did wait on, because we were near the Circle Star Theater up in the Bay Area. It was at 3 ,000 in the round. So I waited on Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Rich Little. I did room service to Little Richard.

21:51Dana Carvey:He answers the door completely naked. anyway that's that that part that's another podcast can i ask you a little bit about um your your process yeah because once in a while i'd sit down on netflix and i'd watch specials okay and i usually last 15 minutes with david why i like i said i last about 15 minutes david i go longer but so i'm going through i'd never i didn't know a thing about you never saw you and it was the one with the um subway sandwich in the cinnabon and i watched it all the way through and i said holy shit this is new this is familiar but completely brand new it kind of i'm used to have gotten this from people over the years right when they first because the physicality and the musicality together was so potent to me and the physicality is it's not just all this it's also to send a bun to your head.

22:54Dana Carvey:And then the rhythms, you know, the way you say people,

23:02Dana Carvey:you're so exasperated. The guy's over by the pool, clipping his toenails. I mean, it's so hypnotic and I love it. And I recommended that special and others to our business manager loves you. And two things. One, so then I went, I said, I showed you to my kids. I said, oh, this guy, you know, Sebastian. Then I said, let's find out where he was. So I watched you on Craig Ferguson doing standup and it was all there, but it wasn't 2.0. It wasn't extrapolated, but everything was there. So the confidence leap was huge. So you have people tell you this, right? I mean, it's so potent. No one else is doing that even to this day, your style.

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23:49Dana Carvey:I just really appreciate it. And do you pull muscles? Do you get hurt on stage? Because Jim Brewer does. Okay, that's all I got to say. No, it was very, very sweet of you. I appreciate it. I like the way you put it, describing kind of what happens up there. Physicality and musicality. Yeah, I never really heard it put that way. But yeah, for me, as far as I did comedy so much just to just to get good at it and familiar and talk about the confidence. You know, I noticed when I started moving a lot, people enjoyed that. And it was a bit of a surprise because maybe you wouldn't suspect it coming from a guy like I was just kind of up there.

24:37I was kind of dressed nice and then I would do whatever. And then I'm like, oh, wow, I'm getting some response here with the movement. And then I guess what happens in stand up comedy, you just become you try to get as comfortable as you are just talking with your family. So that's kind of how I equated it, too, because they would look at me on stage and go, you're much funny when you talk to us. And I was like, well, you know, I got to get used to this. It's something that it's very new to me. and uh and yeah for me it's just basically storytelling and the act outs are are kind of just they're they're not practiced it's just like i'm gonna go to the comic store tonight and i'm gonna tell a story that happened to me and how i tell the story happens to come with a

25:23Dana Carvey:a head bob or just being shocked the one i i don't know which special it was but people just randomly ringing the doorbell the act out on that was just huge i mean you're going in different rooms lying down it was like a whole military operation so i call it funny with the sound off and there's nothing more potent than if you look at i love lucy or peter sellers where there's first of all there's not one joke in your act verbally but also that the act outs allow the audience to easy laugh crazy hard because they're not they don't have to listen right at that moment so then they're free and so i i just it's a style that i just love it i think it's kind of a style when i saw it at the store i think i first saw it uh sebastian just leaving you know you do a set you're leaving and i go he was next so i just sat in the back or i just walked in one night and before i went on just who's on i don't know everybody here and uh same thing day and i just thought it was very different and i think it's kind of like maybe you're saying his stand-up in the old days was sort of uh in a weird way acapella and now you're adding strings and different things too because movements and different things are taking like a bit that's funny and it's getting funnier there's little layers to it now so you're not so you have a bit that's already funny and now you're putting different stuff to it now it's elevating and now that's your whole style there's more going on in each bit than a regular stand-up i would say that's what i i i'd drawn to the same stuff it was already funny and then he surprised us with some moves i think i think it was the uber bit and there was the one about about when that was just funny to me and then and then when i see i see you know it got into this other thing that we can get into where i just did a special and this is more what this podcast is about um i did a special and and so what's the name of it when and that we we don't know yet okay but The thing about it is, and Sebastian's done a lot of these, and the idea of do you start from scratch and do a whole new hour or do you do a mixed bag?

27:33So for me, I just shot my special last week and I'm still on tour. So that will come out after I'm done with the tour. So I'd like to give the crowd a new experience if I'm going to go on tour again. I mean, I think there's some material that people enjoy that they want to hear. Right. And I might throw a few of the older ones in, but I like to, you know, I don't know. It's hard with comedians. I mean, I'm sure you guys run into it, the impressions that you do. People want to see the impressions or people want to see the... Yeah. And you're like, all right, you know, I'll give you that. Like the hits.

28:16Here's what do you got? Yeah. The bride's groomsmen or whatever, that one where they come down and rehearse. That one, I always thought was funny. Because when I see you, sometimes I go, oh, I don't know what's coming out. And if I told my buddy, oh, there's an Uber bit, there's this bit. So those kind of things happen with me too. They go, oh, I came to see you and you didn't do. And I'm like, I know. I actually like to mix in some of my favorites and then, of course, do new stuff. and then there's that feeling of that was in the special do i do it when i go out again i don't know it's it's back and well here you guys uh a little bit older than me you you you didn't have like you when you did when you did something on tv or you did that just lived on tv it's not like you went and go and like pulled that clip back up again of uh the snl sketch that you guys did it's like if you missed it you missed it yeah and now it's all out there for everybody to see so you do a special and it's like i didn't even i didn't have cable going up so i didn't even see the damn hbo specials and and and and when i it was like catching a unicorn but now it's like you do you do a special they cut it up it's all on clips on on internet and then people come out and go, all right, well, yeah, we saw that.

29:39What are we paying, you know,$55 a ticket for? That's the big thing. When I saw that already on YouTube. So it's a challenge, I think, for comedians to kind of come up with equal to or greater than material that they have done previously. That's the challenge. All right, back to school starts now. Get long-lasting battery life on the Dell XPS laptop powered by Series 3 Intel Core so you can work from anywhere. now starting at$699, with exclusive student pricing starting at$599. And it's lightweight, portable, and packed with enough processing power to make multitasking a breeze.

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32:10Dana Carvey:Ticket prices are a trip, right? Cause I was said, Oh, you know, I'm just trying to warm up. So I'll play this casino in Oroville. And then I see the tickets are like$195. dollars i got notes on stage i'm working my old characters it's a little bit like guys i'd rather take a little less and not feel that fucking pressure am i gonna give you 195 bucks worth of comedy but i will observe one thing about you because you don't have any punch lines it's a little bit like with me chopping broccoli people still i don't know if you've heard of it but it's this goofy song and there was no joke in it and so your bits have no joke so it's like monty python or something the rhythms and the physicality you you probably would enjoy some of your stuff more the second time so i can see why you go okay i'm gonna do this bit maybe do an encore you know bill um regan brian regan had to do that because he had some bits that were just so the people just wanted to hear him and even before twitter and tiktok yeah it's not jokes with surprise punchlines.

33:17Dana Carvey:Those kind of burn out. Those guys who do that style, that's hard. But anyway, you go ahead. I think you're right. Sometimes it's just the way people do it, like the chopping broccoli. Everybody could watch that over and over again. I did have a question on the chopping broccoli. When you went chopping, you did a chopping broccoli. Was that all in the moment there, or was that planned? I'd done it in the clubs. I think the first time I did it was at the improv on Melrose and that piano at midnight started it there. So I was doing it in the clubs for probably a couple of years. So that was just a good representation.

33:57Dana Carvey:But there's no way I'm knowing when I'm going to go, you know, but I knew that I was going to escalate it. But I didn't know it would happen right at that moment. You know, it's probably the way you work, you know, you and me, you know. But it's yeah, you kind of have an outline, but you're not totally sure. I know it's cold as ice paradise and the feeling was so nice. He's a lady I know. If I didn't know her, she'd be the lady I didn't know. And then we get in. My lady went downtown. She bought some broccoli. And then there I'm off. Once I get to chop broccoli, then anything could happen. She'd chop.

34:28Dana Carvey:And the clubs, I'll do it for 10 minutes with a guitar. Yeah. When you did it on SNL, I've seen it, but I don't remember. I watched it for the first time a week ago. Did it kill or was it one of those ones that like Coneheads, it doesn't do that well and then they do it again then it kills because they they're onto it you know what i mean they're like oh it takes them because sometimes those are just like weird bits and then they stick with everybody and everyone's like oh shit that's great and you go you know it never killed because it's so new they haven't they don't even get it right away it did build i mean the character i had to call it a character i used to do it just as myself i'd set it up as rock stars losing inspiration um but Derek Stevens and then it sort of built after time but it did well it was at the end of my first show but then I wrote a sketch later where Derek Stevens goes to his record company and they tell him that he has to die because they look at the record sales of Hendrix and Jim Morrison that kind of killed the character you know but anyway but back to our I guess.

35:32Did you guys on SNL, I mean, do you look at other casts after you guys have left and say, oh, do you compare like, oh, when we were there, it was the heyday? Or how do you guys like judge the show after you've been on it? Is it something that you do? David, I start with thinking they're all bad. And then I go from there. No, I don't. No, we've talked about this because we've talked to different generations, Garrett Morris and Lorraine Newman, and then we go newer cast. And it's always about the same situation where some sketches are good and some don't work as well. And then there's some cast members that kind of pop out and some flatline.

36:21And that's just the way it's always been. I think I was lucky to have good people around me, but that wasn't for sure known at the time. It was five years later, 10 years later that everyone kind of held up. I always think, you know what I mean?

36:36Dana Carvey:I could have some memories of the seven years I had in there that was really went well and everything. But when I see other people like later on, like Sherry O'Terry, or if I see Will Ferrell and stuff like, okay, they're better than I was. That's how I go. I go Bill Hader, Fred Armour. Okay. Yeah. I'm not as good as Kristen Wiig. I couldn't do that. I couldn't do that. I always look at the cast beyond my time lovingly and with a lot of admiration, you know, because like, I didn't do that, you know, because it's kind of unlimited. You do what you do and then you leave the show. But, you know, it keeps being reinvented.

37:13Dana Carvey:I mean, how do you I'm just going to ask you because you didn't have cable and you're in the clubs. Like, who were you who were you looking at? And you didn't have telephone. You didn't have a landline. You know, but who are you like George Carlin? George Carlin. Who are you looking at? It was anybody on Johnny Carson. So we would stay up and watch Johnny Carson. And I would be fascinated when the comedian would come on. Back then, I think he got like seven or eight minutes. And I was like, just like, oh, wow, this is this is unbelievable. Plus, back then we would listen to records of Garland or I would I would see cable on Saturday morning.

37:51I went over to my uncle's house to visit and he would tape all the the comedians to watch so i i that's kind of how i was introduced to stand-up was i i think first uh through through the tonight show so how old were you when you went to your uncle's

38:06Dana Carvey:house to look at the stand-ups to watch the playboy channel this is eight i was like seven eight years old so you got the bug early you kind of yeah i was i was really really fascinated with stand-up comedy from a young age i just always thought it was i used to go to comedy clubs when i was 15 not to perform, just to watch. I had a fake ID. Me and my girlfriend would go. And there's a little comedy club in Rosemont at the time. I even forget the name of it. And we used to sit in the back. And I used to sit there and marvel at the comedian going, gee, how does he remember all this? Exactly. I had the same thing.

38:39Yeah. And I'm like, are they just making this up? Like right now? They seem so confident.

38:45Dana Carvey:They're so scared. Yeah. Did you see Seinfeld on there? I remember seeing Seinfeld. I saw Leno on Carson. I saw Jeff Altman. There's just some that stuck out. George Miller, remember that was, was that on Letterman? Letterman's friend, George Miller. But that's funny because you see him and that's really it. And then you wait and see someone else on there. Rickles was always, as a kid, was the one who just made me laugh the hardest. Because again, no jokes. Ed, the show started a half hour ago. Put him in the corner, give him a cookie. Hey, Ed, give him the program. I mean, and he had his tricks, but still he made it feel so spontaneous.

39:22And yeah, so I really enjoyed him in the Johnny Carson banter and the back. Also, I liked when the, the, the, the talk shows had people on the couch and you would come out and they, you would goof around with the girl next to you, next to you, everybody would be like having fun. And now it's like, you go out there and it's just you, you and the host. It would be nice to have the first guest next to you.

39:47Dana Carvey:It's promotion. and corporate greed. And, you know, that was just like, I mean, there's one online. There's so many online where Rickles is just next to Sinatra. You know, Vinnie Babongo called, you know, he's just doing all these fake Italian names. And Sinatra was dying. But yeah, that bygone era. Can I ask you this? Were you introverted, extroverted in the middle going through grade school? Or do you have years where you were kind of the king of the hill? Other years you were dormant. shy just shy kid never class clown just quiet polite just observe the the class client i never liked the class clown i always thought funny sorry dana no i was introverted as well but when i was in fourth grade i had a good year i got kind of cocky but fifth grade i went i went fourth grade i went dormant no fourth grade so i'm about i was a shoplifter i smoked cigarettes and I fought a lot of kids.

40:45Dana Carvey:I fought. And then what happened? Your stock went down the next year? I don't know. That's what I was going to say about confidence. There's 99 % and then that last 1 % is as big as the previous 99. And I think that's where you got to at a given point. And so the audience, when they sense that kind of confidence, like Dave Chappelle, when he's up there. You know, it's just like, that's at that high, high. And you're there too. It takes 22 minutes to light his cigarette. Everyone's like, I know, and it's right. You're actually - It's funny. Yeah, you're waiting. You're actually, when you watch him, you hope that he likes you as an audience member.

41:23Dana Carvey:That's how powerful he is. But when you get to that level of confidence, that next, next wound down level, the audience is so comfortable. They're so relaxed that you have command up there and you got there. I don't know what year it was, but you got there and it's fun to watch. I've seen recent specials. I won't give names of big comics. I was one of them a few years back, but their eyes are kind of big and they're dancing for their dollars. They're a little sweaty and it's not their best set. And, you know, you want to feel like the guy's not shooting a special, you know? You know, Sebastian's good.

42:01Dana Carvey:Because the eyes get big, a bead of sweat and it ain't funny all of a sudden. Go ahead, David. He's not afraid. Not afraid to keep it silent for a second. You know, like I think I'm right when you, there's silence in mine. I'm scared they're going to yell. I'm scared. It's hard to sit there and be quiet and think of the next thing. I think Nate Bregazzi has good crowds where they wait. You know what I mean? They're well-behaved. And to get a crowd, it's so much more fun to do throwaway jokes or to take a pause. And then they go, but if you, I get rowdy sometimes. And so I can't leave that much.

42:32And I think I like when someone like Sebastian He just stops for a second. Then he goes on the next thing and you're like, I'm in this. So if you're good, if you get a good crowd, you can do it. Yeah. That's the biggest fear that I love the silence. It's just, you don't know what people are going to say or do, or, or, you know, someone could yell out something because the audience feels sometimes maybe uncomfortable going, are we supposed to talk now? Or you do forget something. Yeah. They want you to keep fucking going. they get uncomfortable and they're like, maybe this is the time he wants me to yell something stupid.

43:11Dana Carvey:And they're right on cue. You know, you're in shape as a standup. If you're up there and you have a bit and it's killing and you just in the back of your head, you go, Oh my God, if this is killing, I got three stack right behind this. You know, I can really relax now. Oh yeah. You know, that's a good place to be. A good crowd is great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta be, I mean, even, even sometimes you feel like i don't know if you guys feel like you're doing a bit maybe it's one of your favorite bits to do but it doesn't come it comes in the middle you put it in the middle right and then you feel like after that you're like the stuff that i got after this not going to be as good as what they just saw right no but you get at least for me i get so excited to do that i gotta move it up in the act it keeps me kind of engaged and and then after that for me i i feel like oh man it's it's a little bit of a letdown just to tell them these these jokes because i know they're not as good as what i just did so or you know or you get a weird crowd not to interrupt you i had this the other night there they weren't they're either really biting on everything or you go oh they're not biting on this this is dirty and they're not biting and i'm like Uh-oh.

44:28I'm looking at my list going, we got some dirty ones coming up toward the end. How do I get around these? Because why it's so hard on your feet to go, I got to move that up. I got to lose that, but I still got to do enough time because if they're not biting on this one, they're not going to like the next. You can just tell. Get off it. Get off it. It's such a psychological beating up there. You're like. Don't you find it fascinating that you're saying they're not biting on this? Meaning as an audience It's a whole group. Yeah. Like they all got together and go, listen, we're not laughing at the dirty stuff tonight.

45:03But it's fascinating for me is like, how is it like everybody in the audience is not on board with this one particular show? Yep. Or they don't like the super dry stuff. Like you can just come and have little musings that work. Like I think the other night I go on and I go, hey, don't tell me what happened in the election. I taped it. Don't tell me who won. I taped it. And then, and then I got a big laugh. Next night I do it. They're just staring at me. I'm like, what happened? What happened between last night and tonight? At a certain point, it's too late to do that. But for their two, three days there.

45:38And then I go, and then I go, there's some throwaways in my act. They weren't. And they're like, we're not the throwaway crowd. Give us the, give us the fastballs. I'm like, fuck. And that's what you realize early on. And I go, I got an hour of this. I got to.

45:51Dana Carvey:My problem is if I too early get too jumpy and I just go out and I go, not gonna do it i'm fucked because that's it they did they some people leave after that they or if i go party on some half the crowd goes we got it we got it we heard it if i don't do anything else and then you do something else i go why are you doing something else why are you talking about anything but the church lady right now i don't understand why so you're ruining it it's a good problem to have but it's basically a greatest hits review i might as well be at you know the Tropicana and Laughlin, you know, little Dennis Miller slipped in.

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46:32Dana Carvey:You got the Sebastian cat on the pod today. Huh? That's a toddling cat, you know, out there with the physicality works. Works. So another question, but we're going to get to your, all your credits, movies, TV shows. He's like, please get to my credit. PR person's going nuts. When is he going to mention the bookie? When is he going to do it? When is he going to mention the bookie? We got a two-hour podcast. I can't do it. Do you have to stretch before you go out? I mean, do you kind of - No, I do. Early on, no. But now I pop my calf a couple of times on stage. Of all things. Which bit was it or what?

47:14I can't do the stealing home bit.

47:16Dana Carvey:It was just a pivot move. We were squatting. I went to go sprint from one side to the other. As I went off my right leg, I'm like, wow, did I just break my leg? It doesn't take much. You have to be at least 30. So after that, it doesn't take a lot. What happened was I turned to grab the computer mouse and everyone's like, and? I go, that was it. I'm old enough that my toes will spasm during a set. They just start going out and getting all rigid. I go, what the fuck? That's painful. I can't put any weight on it. So I just go, not going to step over. I'm trying to stir up ticket sales on this. I want to see you collapse.

48:03Dana Carvey:I'm going to your show. So did you have to ice it, rest it, massage it? It was. Yeah, I had to mention it to the crowd because it definitely hampered my movement. I had sciatica for two years and it really, really screwed with my. That's wicked, wicked shit. I don't know if you guys have dealt with that. Does that go down your back, your leg or something? Yeah, it goes to the side of your leg, into your calf. Some people get it into their ankle and foot, but it's debilitating. I couldn't move. It's hard to be funny when you're in a lot of pain. So I had to really work through that. It's gone now.

48:41I did Pilates to correct it. I tried everything. No. I was doing shots. I was doing cupping, massage, whatever that was out there. I was doing and then I fell upon this Lagree Pilates and all of a sudden two months in

48:57Dana Carvey:yeah my wife had it same thing Pilates all that kind of stuff could I ask you what special when you were in massive pain did you record just that what was the name of that special when you were in pain it was the last one you probably decided not to record what is your last one called is it me yeah or i thought it ain't right no it ain't right is the the tour the tour yeah yeah and then is it me yeah yeah and how would you the next one is what time is it what time is it i'm running out of special names you have one called give it a rest mine's called beep bop boop i mean i think they go are you is this a real one am i i don't know He had a special that he had a special.

49:48Dana Carvey:He named it. The name was so nondescript that for two years in this podcast, neither of us could remember the name of his current special. What was the name of it? They're always like either two words or just something kind of cutesy. But question. Aren't you embarrassed? What's wrong with people? Yeah. Get your facts straight. Oh, yeah. We got sciatica. It's.

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51:48If you name a special, do you have to say the name in the act? That's a great question. I, you know, people go, I'll watch your special and give you a name. I'm like, you won't. Because there's not some running theme of like, I was abused by my father the whole special. They're like, oh, I got one. you're like no it's just all goofy dumb jokes and it makes no sense so i'm gonna have a special name like when i heard rock named his tambourine and i didn't get it at all but i just liked that it was different and spelled different than and then he said when you're married sometimes you're the lead sometimes you play the tambourine and let them shine and i was like oh okay so it has some thought to it you know so i like that but i liked it anyway because it was just weird and uh and it's always fun to think of a name and then no one really cares.

52:34Dana Carvey:I had one good one and one terrible one. The good one was the 90s. I called it Critics' Choice with four stars and I never talked about it on cable TV. It would come up on Comedy Central. Dana Carvey, Critics' Choice, four stars. My sister would call me and say, you got Critics' Choice again? Then in 2016, I had an Irish nephew from Dublin at Stella Adler in Hollywood and it was right when wokeness was coming in and they said this and this and this, but straight white males need not apply for some class. So he goes, man, you should name it that. So I named him a straight white male 60. I don't know why, because some people said, that's going to catch you.

53:16Dana Carvey:I would click on that. And then I'm on the great late Norm McDonald's podcast and goes, so I sound special. I mean, what was that title about? And he kind of has nothing to do with straight white male, right? And I go, no, nothing. There's no bit in there about it. It's completely just slapped off. I like that you confused Norm with that one. I did, I know. What does it mean? What does it mean? Where's the bit about that? You know, I didn't understand. So we all love Norm, of course. So I just threw that in in case people don't understand that. We make fun of Norm all the time. We love Norm. I mean, I love to do them because I'm visiting with him.

53:53Dana Carvey:But so the bookie is what your PRP, is that where you're on right now? Besides besides on because he likes he's a big fan. No, it's. I watched one of the first episode today. It's very cool. I mean, you had Ray Romano on it, you know, and you were in that movie with him somewhere in Queens. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, the whole acting thing for me has been a struggle to kind of wrap my head around coming off, you know, stand up comedy and getting that immediate gratification on stage. and then all of a sudden you're acting and now it's, we're going to do that again. We're going to move the cameras and this and that.

54:32Just for me, it's like, I get impatient. It's like, all right, come on.

54:37Dana Carvey:It's not really fun, is it? Unless it's documentary style, but if it's like, we're coming around, you know, we're moving in. Do you hate yourself when you start repeating the way you did a joke over and over on different takes? It makes me sick, to be honest. Oh, you know. Because I keep doing it and they go, do it again. I'm like, it's just, it's not funny. And they go, now do it again. This is the one we're probably going to use. I'm like, now it's 48 takes in. I've been giving it my all. Hiya, hey. And then I got to do it again. And the people across me are like, oh, so that was all planned?

55:15A little throwaway ad lib. I'm like, yes, you get it now. Sorry. But in your act, you do it once and you keep moving. Everyone's like, oh, hey. They do the master shot at 8 a.m., right?

55:25Dana Carvey:They do the mass shot, then a second or third master shot. By the time you get to the money shot on you, it's like eight, nine hours later. You've actually said the words over 200 times. It doesn't even sound like English at that point. Then the reviews, the comedian, the impressionist struggles with his acting skills. No, fucking do Larry David with me. Just shoot everything every second. One time to just bring it back to us. um we were on a when we did Tommy Boy Brian Dennehy came in to play to play Farley's dad we all love him from fucking true yeah first blood or whatever and so we were all excited so we didn't realize because it was our first big movie or any movie and that we were Pete Pete the director who's a great guy we love him but to make sure because we were new I think Paramount told him just make sure you get it so we're doing 15 masters you know forget about the over the shoulder and then a two shot and then a over the wide shot and then a loose two close up so we're doing that's what we're taking all day and then brian dennehy after three takes of the masters they go all right going in he goes what the fuck what are we doing what are we doing here we got it go move on move on i love it we just did three how many we're gonna be on this at a second at the beginning and a second at the end of the scene what are we doing and i was like are you allowed to say this?

56:43What's going on? And then, because, you know, Farley gives it 1 ,010%. I give it about 64%. And so, at the, he's just so burned out and drinking coffee and we're like, we haven't even pushed in for the stuff we're going to use. So, he was sort of trying to protect us a little bit

57:02Dana Carvey:in a very loud voice. I had Robert Losha do that on a movie. Oh, that's another exact type. He goes up to the director and gets in his face, you're wearing out the actors. You're wearing them the fuck out and the director's like shriveling down i did roadhouse yeah i played a piano with tom hanks you fuck face we shot roadhouse in a day and a half that's patrick swayze was brian was uh robert lotion and roadhouse i think he's a bad guy lived across the lake anyway back to sebastian all right well sebastian thank you bud what else can you i uh i appreciate he's He's a good guy. I will see you at the store.

57:41Dana Carvey:He's a brilliant stand-up. I think you're an excellent actor, by the way. I like watching you act. Thank you. And you wrote a book. I don't know what you haven't done, but, you know, just keep on keeping on. If we run into each other somewhere, what would you want me to say to you? I have a backstage at the comedy store. What would you like me to say? Hey, Sebastian. Yeah, what do you want me to say? We'll just pick it up right before we left off right here. We just go into the next question. start about the bookie and then just go from there. Are you going to run and tell your wife and kids, they said I was really physical and musical.

58:15Yeah. That's going to be at the dinner table tonight. Do you know what they said about daddy? You know what they said?

58:22Dana Carvey:And you're picking them up, holding them. Anyway, it was so much fun to have you on here. And thanks for letting us blab. But yeah, keep on doing and just have fun, I guess. Enjoy yourself. I mean, it's I am joking myself. And it was a pleasure talking to both of you, the two guys that I kind of grew up watching on TV. And, you know, sometimes it's like, you know, you got to wrap your head around these things. It's like, yeah, watching you as a kid. Now we're doing a podcast together. Sometimes it's, you know, plays with your head a little bit going. I had it with Martin Short and Steve Martin, you know, like, really?

59:03Dana Carvey:You consider me a peer? what is this where we're at now are you crazy you know but uh yeah i totally get that don't ever lose that you know and you're making a lot of people happy i know that sounds really corny but from where i'm at people fucking need to laugh in life and so it's a good thing to it's a good stock and trade to do

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59:53Dana Carvey:is greg holtzman and the show is produced and edited by phil sweet tech booking by cultivated an interview. Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura Curran, Melissa Wester, Hilary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kurt Courtney, and Lauren Vieira. Reach out with us. Any questions to be asked and answered on the show, you can email us at flyonthewall at odyssey.com. That's A-U-D-A-C-Y dot com.

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