RE-RELEASE - Will Ferrell

25:19Yeah. But it would always surprise me, especially after that first year where you're like, okay, I think I've gone through everything you're going to go through where you potentially are going to get thrown. Yeah. It would just come out of the blue where it would be, I don't know, it wouldn't even be like the first show of the season. it'd be something like the seventh show it's like why do i don't have a good feeling this is not going to be good it's an anxiety it would just come out of just come out of nowhere yeah and uh and that'd be fine the rest of the year but it's inexplicable it's it's two things happen i think

25:55Dana Carvey:there's people like eddie murphy was a savant you know basically at 19 but i think for most people you get a little more confident and then the audience starts to see you and then you get a a little more confident. And then finally, when the audience sees you come out, they're kind of excited. And then, and then it builds on it. I've seen it happen with a lot of cast members over time. That's why Lauren says do, you know, well, with me, I was newer, but like a feature player, but do a few lines here, a few lines there, just to get them to see your face and know you're part of the situation. So then they know, okay, he's one of these guys.

26:28And then they will buy you when you do a full sketch. But you came, you were one of the ones that like Dana, where you came out and you had to be a full, Were you a full cast member when you started? Well, we were really lucky because that year before was when they got rid of the dead weight. Farley Sandler. Get rid of him. Cleaning out the dead wood. Myers, this clown. Myers Dana. He's good. Phil Hartman. I was hanging out of the door like Titanic. John Lovitz. you know yeah so you make the place you start over so we had a brand new we had yeah brand new cast and a brand new writing staff very weird so we didn't know any better we we were like it wasn't that because i've talked to past cast members who were added one at a time like by themselves and that's super or mid-season mid-season to try to break through that way in fact Molly was mid-season the year before I got there.

27:31Oh, she was there. And we were laughing because she was like, what is this? You guys get like cue card training and you get shown where all the, here's the wardrobe department. Here's your quick change area. I didn't get any of that. My God. Yeah. And she was just laughing going, she was like, I was a little mad actually. You guys got to, did you get trained on the cue? Do you remember anything like that? No one even talked to us.

27:57Dana Carvey:terror. I mean, my thing was freaky because in the first show, I was in the cold opening, and I didn't know it was the cold opening. I was just in it. I knew it was my first time doing sketch comedy. It was hard for me not to look at the audience like a stand-up, you know? And then the church lady popped and came in, and I had Sigourney Weaver and Phil and Jan, and so then that took off. So I was just boiled in water immediately, and then chopping broccoli. Chopping broccoli. which that was in my first show that's your first show? oh my god the cutaway to Phil by the way just him and Joe, everyone just going this is the worst song ever and then Phil Hartman just going yes

28:40Dana Carvey:Phil Hartman I'll give you as great a compliment as I can, you remind me of a lot of people, Peter Sellers and you also remind me of Phil because you were Alex Terbeck that would have been what, Phil would have played that character. But Phil Hartman and Dan Aykroyd were like my guys I looked up to. I just loved how they could swim. They could be the main guy or be the background guy. And that's what I loved about ensemble comedy. Yeah. And you know, everyone who knows them both just said they're kind of scientists, comedians. They would just, Phil would read books about Evan Roode motorboats on the set and then pick up a script, kill it in the rehearsal, come back.

29:20Dana Carvey:And Aykroyd is the same way. He's interested in science and a astronomy came to host when we were i don't know if it was that first year or the second year oh really he comes back to host and i'm in the room i think it was with tom janice and adam mckay and kechner and i just can't i don't know what to say to him i'm just sitting in the chair and i'm just like that's phil hartman and uh he finally picks up on he's like what gives with the feral kid what got your tongue

29:56it was like do i walk out of the room i was like i was just like oh no i just what these guys said let's just uh yeah and i mean i'm writing the thing that they're gonna write for you too but he was just what a great yeah there was just something about him

30:18Dana Carvey:and he was so effortless and he didn't care and he was so unassuming about it and that's why we nicknamed him the glue he was just somebody who was always there but god he picked up on the fact that I just I wouldn't I couldn't speak that's so interesting because now we have data of where you went and where you're still going and to hear this stuff that's very human Yeah. Stopped. Stopped. Do you remember when I ran... I stopped. Do you remember when I ran into you at the Laker game? Don't even say it. I hadn't seen you in a while. I ran into you at the Laker game. You're like, oh, hey, Will, hey.

30:54Hey, sorry about the career.

31:00I can't even hide my jealous rage. You're like, hey, by the way, good to see you. Sorry about the career. Yeah, sorry everything went up on a fucking rocket ship. No, because the first time I saw you was at Butterfield and Butterfield. Oh, yeah. You heard me. Oh, man. We worked at an auction house that is Christie's now, I think, on Sunset. And I was buying Elvis memorabilia. And I took my gross new money. And I bought an Elvis set list. Joey Esposito, who is Elvis, is one of his buddies, was there authenticating stuff. I got a set list Then he wrote out His handwriting And I loved Elvis I bought one of his guns And then I bought a And then his watch And I thought it was cool as shit And then you worked there Yeah And then you I had my land cruise Which I still have tonight And I You walked me out And That's where I met you And then when I saw you I think we remembered That you worked there right?

32:04You didn't work there Oh my god Yeah no I worked there And my then Good friend And that was the last time I was funnier than you. Later, my wife worked there, too. Oh, yeah, she worked there? Oh, that's right. She was the auctioneer. Oh, hey, bada, hey, bada. Yeah. Exactly like that. Hey, bada, hey, bada. Hey, bada, bada, bada, bada, bada, bada, bada. Can you yell out a number? You keep saying, hey, bada, hey, bada. We can't follow the bidding. But it was interesting seeing you there. And then, obviously, we joke around, but the monster movies after that, I mean we can talk about SNL because I was going to ask you before we get to all these movies what was your favorite commercial parody you were in?

32:45Do you remember commercial parodies? Did you do a lot or not? Yeah I didn't I was a little bit bummed but when I first started I wasn't in I don't think I was in any of those initial commercial parodies and usually it was sort of like jury duty because it takes you away from the show a little bit because you have to dedicate a full day to shooting it during the week and now they do a lot of pre-tapes during the week. You see the host in a lot. I mean, they beat the shit out of them. But you'd come sometime in September to start. You can go do them early. Oh yeah. Go do them early. I don't know if we did that.

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36:43Dana Carvey:One thing I'm just quickly very interested in because, you know, you think everyone knows everything about you. But what was that transition from USC to being to the groundlings? And then how long at the groundlings till you got on SNL? How fast did you get on SNL from when you started trying to be a comedian? I graduated SC in 90, moved home immediately, which was great. Back to Orange County? Back to Orange County. Okay, good move. Everyone was super psyched about that. So that's in 1990? Yeah, that was 1990. I'm back, Dad. Yeah, I'm back. Thanks for the education. yeah thanks for the thanks for the degree um and uh i i i then was i was going to try to be a sportscaster that's what i studied at sc i was going going but at the same time i i thought ah i better i better try this comedy thing if i'm gonna give a shot because that was from a childhood sort of inkling always prankster and all that always liking it but too afraid to try it and And that's when I started taking classes at the Groundlings, trying some stand-up comedy.

37:58Pretty darn good. Yeah. Did you ever play the Cannery down in Newport? Or the San Juan Depot where an actual train goes through? You're set? I did like more official comedy clubs. I've had that, yeah. Okay.

38:12Dana Carvey:But I don't think I was in that club. You're like Shakey's. Nino's in Long Beach, an Italian restaurant. I did not. Yeah. All the big spots. I did. Yeah. Sir Laughs A Lot in Glendale. Godfusters. Yeah. The Rib Tickler in Minneapolis I play. That's real. But I was doing some stand-up. I was doing, and Groundlings, you have to, you work your way through this school. Yeah. But the courses are so booked up, you'll finish one level and you've got to wait six months before the next one opens up. So then I was just back at working odd jobs. I was a bank teller. And this is in 91? 91, 92. You're still doing odd jobs.

38:54And then I think 93, I get into the main company or the Sunday company at the Growlings. Did you have a character that you had developed

39:04Dana Carvey:at that point that got you to that? Was Harry Carey around? Harry Carey was in the main company. So the Sunday show is like their minor league team and then you get into the main company and and that's when a get off the shed sketch I had done and I started doing Harry Carey that was during the baseball strike one year. Inspired character. And I thought oh baseball, there's no baseball games right now. Wonder what Harry Carey's doing with his days. I thought it'd be funny. I should set him in like an acting class doing a play reading of a super dramatic play. Perfect. And so I wrote this sketch about Harry in a community theater rehearsal space and I was like, okay, let's take the scene from the top and it was Harry Carey doing like damn it, Carol!

40:04What happened to us?

40:08I look in your eyes and I don't see love anymore.

40:17Dana Carvey:you disappear i literally your face from this angle funny i didn't see will for a second i remember maggie baird who was she she played my wife but they the other act they had to play i said you guys have to play it really like if you can make yourself cry do it so they're reading the lines like i don't know i just we're distant and she's like getting herself to cry and then i'm playing off of that it was it was madness but the audience i knew it was working when the audience was laughing at the without any knowledge of who harry carrie would they'd just be like who's that crazy guy you do with yeah yeah they just sounds funny um but so i'd done that and by that spring of 95 that was when we had heard snl's looking to recast uh so it was it was pretty fast it was like two years did you have anybody in a position of authority a mentor or someone at the ground or someone who pulled you aside at one point said i i think you you really can do this or it was a really supportive i mean was everyone sort of giving you feedback was it more supportive than snl well i would say typically yes but we the group we had at the show yeah you were kind of like you got kind of lucky we got lucky who was in that group that was that would have been molly and myself uh chris kattan chris kattan came later um and i guess anna came the next year sherry oh sherry terry where are you norm was doing tim meadows so tim uh jim brewer wow so everyone went on from there steve carell's wife Nancy Walls who was on SNL and it was a lot of people who had done sketch comedy so everyone was just kind of like pulling for each other in a very un-SNL way because we knew like ooh the show's about to get cancelled not to mention everyone in network television saw there was blood in the water so we had to go up Mad TV premiered Howard Stern had a sketch comedy show oh really your first year all that was on funny but I think and you did your show in 96 yeah that first yeah that was prime time it made half an episode they pulled us out were you guys doing it on a Friday night maybe I wouldn't I think no it was right after Spin City or Home Improvement and there was a fourth there was a fourth there was four or five different sketch comedy shows that whole year and In Living Color might have still been on maybe yeah yeah the state maybe so anyway so we were we were like actually pulling for each other sort of friendly was cheerleaders that first year?

43:01It was that first year. So you had a couple that really worked so there was no danger. No, no. There was... Yeah, no, no. Don't ruin the flow. You're getting it wrong when I say my stuff. What are you doing? No, no. No, but cheerleaders must have... I think it crushed from immediately and then you did it a few times that year. So you were no danger feeling down deep. You might get fired or anything. You were doing well enough that first year to go. So I'm pretty solid. Except they did a thing where I think we were signed for the first nine shows. Oh, then a pickup? Oh, gross. But then it was a gross pickup.

43:41I mean, it's just. But then they, dare I say, they broke the contract. And they said, nope, you're just picked up. You're picked up for just five more shows. Wow. And then we'll see if you're picked up for the last five. This is your first season. First season. Just getting these little pickups. that's what happens when I date girls they pick me up for two more dates and then they go we'll see how it goes after that I'm sorry you don't have to laugh they thought you said it so you started laughing but it was still it was still harrowing by the way I don't think you're ever relaxed there going I got it made here so I don't think that's ever a feeling if you're new except those last couple seasons I really felt like but I did have a fantastic so when my arbitrarily my last year when I just decided that would be my last year for no good reason just felt like the right amount of time.

44:42Lauren took me to dinner to talk me into staying. Chili's?

44:51Houston's? I can get us in. I can do Houston. Houston's at 930. Does that work? After the rush? Yeah.

45:01Dana Carvey:These dinners are very interesting. So, Will, you're going to stay. That's how he does it sometimes. You'll stay another two years. Oh, yeah, just tell you. He'll tell you what's going to happen. It was at Pastis. Oh. Yeah. Okay. How awkward, because you want to say no. You want to leave, right? Well, you'd already filmed old school, but we'll get to that, right? Yeah, that was in the camp. That was in the can. That was in the can, but no one knew. You didn't know where it was from. That was in the can. That's a term for it's been filmed, it's edited, but they haven't shown it yet. Because they used to have cellular aids in the can.

45:33You did that in the summer, and then you came back into that. I think I did it partly through part of that, the fall of that seventh season. Okay. So how did Lorne pitch you? Lorne said the most, he said, so I understand you're thinking about leaving. And I would just suggest this. you're at a high point right now.

45:57But you want to start just to begin to dip. And then you should leave. And I was like, but Lauren, that seems counterintuitive.

46:12And then... Work for John Lovitz. When Lauren doesn't really want to hear an answer, he always goes, just think about it.

46:19Dana Carvey:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just think about it. think about it. I'm going to draw the chart on a napkin. High point? I'm going, yeah, let me just think about waiting for me to dip and then leave. I will think about that. And you just said, I'll think about it. And then we never talked about it ever again. But it seems like, you know, you did Molly's movie. You did a lot of, you did the movie with Chris and you, you know, you were kind of, and then you'd done Cowbell and everything else. It seemed like your timing was impeccable. I mean, you were ready, but you could have killed for three more years on the show if you wanted to I mean if anyone had put a show biz gun to my head and said this is all you get to do I would have said great that was the hardest most fun job I've ever done most exhilarating, bizarre but yeah I couldn't hear you did someone put a gun to your head?

47:17someone put a gun one of Elvis's old guns. Oh, God damn. Bought at auction to my head. Don't use mine right back on me. Comes around, comes around. This crowd does not know what to do. I think I was in a dark nightclub in Scottsdale. Where I'm from. Camelback in 54th. When you did, so in the summers, you did, that's what we would try to do is a movie in the summer. So you did, what was the first one? Was it Superstar? Were you in Superstar? I was in Superstar. The first one was... Or was it Roxbury? I think the first one was Roxbury. I heard the original title was called A Day at the Roxbury. Then you go, maybe night.

47:59Dana Carvey:We're doing Burry this month. Is there any way you could still shake your neck like that or no? It's too hard. I don't know if I can. I don't know if I remember what the motion was. It was... Oh, man. Is this love?

48:17If I did it now, I would just hold my head still and go.

48:23Try to trick the audience. Like a little cardboard cutout. Actually, that's a sketch Catan and I would do at the Growlings. Oh, you brought it in. You brought it. So we brought that in. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but for the audience, if they don't know, but we say it sometimes, when you come on, when I was there, you would say what sketches you had when you came in what characters right and then you own them even if you did them on the show i think mike owned wayne wayne's world uh and then i'm not sure i was just no i don't know is that they were pretty

48:54Dana Carvey:tricky about that i i don't know we'll own it even if we don't own it maybe 50 50 uh and then and then whatever you came up with in the writer's room they own right is that how it works yeah so So if you came in with that, and then I think it's more incentivizing if you would think if it was a sketch they own, you know, because Lauren was doing a lot of sketches for a while. Like even Tommy Boy was sort of us at the office based on. What was that movie? You guys. What was Tommy Boy about? I get the top of the hand. On top of the hand. Woo. And then Wayne's World. Let's get some box office numbers out here.

49:38Dana Carvey:Roxbury versus Tommy Boy. No, Tommy Boy. Let's see who's pulling coin down town. We weren't a big hit, though. Roxbury maybe made 30. We made probably 35. We barely. Really? Yeah, Wayne's World was the big hit, yeah. It's fun. Tommy Boy made like 50. No, it just made. What about Black Sheep? What about what? Black Sheep. Black Sheep made about the same. But they sort of did better as it went on, like on video. But some movies like that, in hindsight, you probably thought they made more. But it didn't. It opened number one and sort of black sheet, but it wasn't like a huge killing. But it just sort of resonated over time, which helps.

50:23Because a lot of them do better and they don't resonate. You know how it is. You got a lot of movies. Life on DVD. Yours did well. Cable. But to other people. Not really.

50:32Dana Carvey:DVDs are huge DVDs are coming back Live streaming is so over Let's get some hardware going I want to put it in a slot I remember Walmart said Every time people throw in Tommy Boy or Joe Dirt And it doesn't go down Every week they get the same amount of people So that made money I guess for them But not really me I like those ones that kind of live on There's not that many but when you came out so old school was such a monster was your idea to be naked and streak because you did that before or or it seems to me that you got a comfort level of using your body you know in a very funny way I had a comfort level you would streak in college right or is that made it I had yeah I had my dad's in the audience tonight oh yeah you're trying to overthink your answers i i streaked in college dad your dad is out there right here on our audience uh that's true yeah but yeah that well i was always that was the thing i loved about chris farla i mean i just remember i remember thinking okay i'm gonna meet people that are just as funny as me and people that are much funnier than me but the one i'll just they won't be able to out commit me it would be it was like my promise to myself you fulfilled that I don't think anyone committed hard.

52:05I had no problem taking my shirt off during sketches and things like that. But I do remember reading the script for Old School and reading that joke. And there's sometimes a disconnect that you read it and you go, oh, that'll be funny, until the day you actually have to perform it. And you come out of your trailer, what are you wearing, a robe?

52:28Dana Carvey:Oh, right. How do you come out of your trailer? I agreed to shoot this. and we were shooting Will it's time for the run down the street little marble sack as they say in the industry and yeah we shot it here in Montrose anyone from Montrose here tonight I've only heard about that on Weather Montrose but yeah we shot that right out here near Altadena I just remember we were shooting in front of a bunch of stores, storefronts, and there was like a local health club. And there was all these yuppie people working out, getting their power walking in. And I said to the PA, like, has anyone told them what's about to happen?

53:19Because I'm in the robe, and I got the marble sack attached to the crucial area. And does anyone know I'm about to drop the robe? and I'm like, do we want to tell, you know, some kid on a headset like, what? Huh? I don't know. We want to get real reactions. Okay, back to one. I think we're going to film it now. We're ready. That first take, I'm running, and I'm trying to, I'm like, honey, we're all going straight. I'm hearing off in the distance through the window of the health club. Oh my God!

53:52Dana Carvey:Oh! Oh! Oh! Hey! Hey! Hey! So many pubes. And then we shoot it. We cut. We reset. Another take. He's not going to do it again. There's like one old guy in there still power walking. Extra. By the third take, health club totally cleared out. No one wanted to watch me run naked down the street. How many takes? It was probably more than we needed. Camera from behind? from behind crane crane shot gotta bring in the super 50 techno yeah side shot and then camera in the car where I go in butt first to sit down so yeah bunch of shots Dana I know this is supposed to be about Will can I tell you one embarrassing story just remind me of I have to move for this it's not worth it at all but we'll take it out later so this is embarrassing because one movie I did called warning shot it was sort of a drama and there was gun thank you warning shot that's when you played the kingpin right oh yeah i was a bad guy drug lord so i was a drug lord uh dana i knew you'd see the trailer so i you sent it to me so there's dana we're taking this all out anyway it doesn't matter I got to watch Warning Shot.

55:23So we'll watch it on the plane. So here I am.

55:32You got it down for sure? Warning Shot. Warning Shot. Okay. And I don't want to give the whole thing away because everyone's going to run home and watch it. Who directed Warning Shot? I don't know if we had a director.

55:44I realized halfway through we were just all talking. AI directed it. So they said there's a part where I get squibs, lingo. So there's a gunfight. You're going to get shot. So they have to squib me up. So they put like little you know, Pepsi and ACs on you that blow up. You know what I mean? Like whatever. But they have to, I don't know if it's electronically, they have to tape it to you. And they actually make it like makes a spark or something. A small explosion. Right. So they tape a couple here to my bird chest and then but I'm at lunch eating a burrito and then they go hey uh shooting after lunch I go and but like you I don't even think about it and then I go oh wait I have to uh this guy's coming in here so the a special effects guy's got like a ponytail you know it's always he comes in hey it's like it's like a sound guy that's in your face yeah he goes uh we're gonna do these and you might feel a spark.

56:45And if there's a full fire, we'll, you know, we'll address it then. And I go, okay. Which means it's happened. Which means it's his first day. So he goes, they just pulled me off this other thing. Home Depot. Yeah. So, so he goes, okay. So he wires me up like shirt off. And then they go one, two, three, four, let's say. And then they tape down and now they stick them on. And now they have to go down my pant leg. And then, you know what I mean? like out the back the wires and then the guy has like a little blow up plunger so I have to put my pants on over that so these are on here and they go back like six feet to him and he's like got it and then in my trailer and I delicately put my shirt on and they go ready for you so I start to walk out and he's following me and then I start drifting off on the way to the set going what are my lines blah blah blah take that Dagnabbit or whatever I'm saying

57:39Dana Carvey:and you were playing like a macho badass yeah like I'm a tough guy so I'm just This is embarrassing. I'm drifting off, and then I go, and then three toots in a row, just to myself. I don't care. I'm just walking. And then I hear behind me, hey, come on, man.

58:03I forgot he was six feet and already leaning over. Hey, come on, man. Because I'm first team, the worst thing he can say is, come on. He wanted to bust my fucking head open. And I go, it's cool, it's cool. But it wasn't cool. It was so horrible. I couldn't apologize, but I had to laugh so hard first because it was so uncool. And then he's walking through. And then guess what? The squibs went wrong after that. Squibs were a relief after that. I just walk on the set, I go, are we ready? And he's like, blam! And I'm like, he's like, oh, early. It's usually the indignant special effects person who they get mad at you even though they didn't have it hooked up.

58:51Right. And so filming a night at the Roxbury, one of the gags was we're driving, we're doing the head thing. Yeah. And then Catan does it so hard he smashes his side. Of the window? His passenger side window with his head. Right. And it explodes. But that's all squibbed up. So that's supposed to... Just crack smack. That's supposed to crack with the aid of technology. Timing. Right when he touches it, bam. Special effect guy. Same guy. Yeah. He's waiting by the console. You know, going hot. Going hot on effects. Cool dialogue. Coming in hot, yeah. You're timing it out. You're rehearsing. How many head?

59:35Okay, we'll do it on the fifth one. And on the fifth one, Chris will go like this. So we're doing, you know, what is that and we're doing our thing and Chris one two three four whack side does nothing the side doesn't break at all guy comes in it's all checked out wasn't plugged in

1:00:05as if we're supposed to go oh great no problem him. But Catan's got like a shiner. Weld. Yeah. And he's like, do we trust him? Do we do it again? He goes, are we doing it again? But it's they get so excited when they discover their issue. Yeah. He's like, it wasn't my fault. It wasn't plugged in. You're like, that's still your fault.

1:00:33Dana Carvey:Isn't it funny it wasn't plugged in? Can you believe it? Hysterical! It wasn't plugged in. show business is difficult that's all we're saying but I do love the guy come on man the harshest he could go was hey come on man and then I was like oh my god he can't yell at me but we always found that with the effects guys on SNL if you had a gag please we need so much blood it's supposed to be over the top amount of blood. You got it. It's going to be so much blood. Dressers are so like one spot. And you'd look over and the guy would be like, I don't know what happened. I'm sorry. I don't know. You want more than that?

1:01:20You're like, yes. I want the funny version of the blood. The funny version and like then add 100 % to that. We did it with Alec Baldwin and we were and Jay Moore. We were all like every cop that came to the set goes, I think Phil comes up and he goes, this is the sickest most gruesome setup you know i've ever seen car crash right he throws up and then he goes captain captain what's going on then he throws up and it was just a joke of we all throw up and like me and jay by the time we got there we were newer and we had two lines but the throw up wasn't working as well and it goes it's same thing up your leg up a hose and the guy and back and then at rehearsal we're like guys more the same thing yeah please funny throw up it's everywhere and it's too much no one's mad it's too much is better and i think by the time we did it uh it was either a leaky faucet you know it just barely and you're like and then it's funny because you're like it's just a little because it's coming out of your arm a little spittle like you're barfing and it goes like that right there's a spray my whole face funny anyway that's not that's neither here nor there right now no no no no but but uh do you have any other stories you'd

1:02:28Dana Carvey:like to share. Did you do, were you an anchorman? Because I didn't read everything. I know you were in. No. I auditioned for it. What was the guy? Ron Flergady? Was Bergady, that wasn't something from SNL, right? That was something you thought of after. That was after. Yeah. That was after the show. Was that one of your first, you left SNL, was that one of your first starring in movies? Old school, old school. Came out? Came out. After I left. While we were filming. Yeah, so I left. Crazy. I had Old School that was filmed, but they held on to it, which is usually a bad sign. They didn't release it until later.

1:03:15After Anchorman. No, no. Before. So it was Old School. And then we were working on this script about an elf. Oh, elf was back then? That was not enough. that needed a bunch of work. So when I left the show, I didn't have this stack of scripts waiting for me. But holy shit, to come out with those three? Old School, Elf, and Anchorman were the first two movies I did after I left the show. That's unreal. Old School, you go, you're crazy. Is that what you say? After the train start? Hysterical. So many parts of Old School are great. When Vince Vaughn goes, hey, you need some sand? I got a sand guy.

1:03:53Everything about Old School is funny. Love that one. Elf obviously was such a huge home run hit and still to this day that was a little scary only because I'd come off of SNL and old school known probably for doing more PG-13 edgier stuff

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1:06:45Dana Carvey:But your style, I guess I'd say, is you never wink and you commit like a dramatic actor. Yeah. and that's what kind of holds you up thank you Dana I say the same thing I said it before you got here it's Dana you can do a trick that Kevin Nealon can do, you can lower your IQ just 20 points just with your eyes very subtly and it's genius but every time we were doing Hans and Franz, cocky idiots and we were talking and they go 5, 4, 3. I'd look at Kevin and his eyes would just go really dumb. He could lower his IQ like 40 points, but you have that skill set of being able to just take IQ off with just something about your eyes.

1:07:39Dana Carvey:I think that's good. Yeah, it is. You need that. Kind of like a guy, what was his name? Sellers. Peter Sellers. Peter Sellers. Kind of like that guy. Pete Sell, I call him. Pete Sellers. Because you do have some symmetry with him. A lot of comedians want to claim Peter Sellers, but I do think you have something in that cocky idiot character that also is very dry, extremely bizarre word packages with a lot of physicality. Anyway, I've been researching you for those days. But that's how I started thinking of the Ron Burgundy character because I was watching footage of this news anchor who had been retired for 20 years, but he still talked like this.

1:08:24Yeah. And I walk through my local market, and I'll be ordering, you know, I'll be buying my groceries, and people will hear my voice, and they'll know, they'll ask me, were you in news? And I say, yes, I used to be. And I thought, who talks like that? You're not a news guy anymore. And I thought, oh, that's funny. Someone who never loses that affect. yeah yeah but all the stuff writing that san diego's funny uh casting it right there's so many ways to do a movie wrong even if you have a funny character like you got to get it directed well uh written well perform it well edited there's so many ways to ruin it along the way and that's why sometimes you sign up for a movie it's it just doesn't come out because there's so many ways to mess it up but to have all those work all the way through is very very tough to do and uh anchorman is one of those that he's hit on all cylinders and then the sequel i was watching the fight scene from the sequel today and it's so fucking funny where insanity thinking of different ways that different news people and uh and then everyone's playing it is funny and all they keep coming in their different groups all that was funny and topping the first one was hard but you did that with that and also uh two days with kanye west i figured out that was kanye i'm like kanye made this cameo but he filmed his thing and then he just hung out the next day.

1:09:49Playing Yeezus for us over and over again. Yeah. Whether you wanted to hear it or not. That's demo jail.

1:10:01Dana Carvey:It was wild. Interesting. Wow. It's funny. I used to be yeah whatever. I had a guy like that and then he would play his album over and over in the car and then in the house. You didn't want to say, no, you already played it for me. But I'll listen to it again. Give you another shot at it. That was funny because I saw Kanye. I was like, oh, my God, is that Kanye? Was he around back then? I guess he was. He must have been pretty new. No, he was. Yeah, he was pretty old, I think. He's right in the middle. Whatever it is, yeah, whatever the answer is. So Anchorman punched it. Also, your bandmates on that, which you've worked with a lot.

1:10:37Dana Carvey:Paul Rudd, who's awesome, obviously. Steve Carell Carell was so funny Carell got a great funny part Kechner

1:10:50and McKay who we'd met at SNL and so it was you guys just really knew what you were doing we just felt like we were playing with the house's money and you know Dreamworks had said no to it initially and then later came back oh really? Yeah, yeah. A bunch of people had passed on it. I think we had 10 or 15 different financiers or studios pass on it in one day. It was a great day. That's a horrible. McKay and I calling. Did you hear about this one? Yeah, that's a pass. Okay, good. But you go excitedly pitch it to everyone and then you just hear pass, pass, pass, pass. The call should be coming in.

1:11:32Pass, pass, pass, pass. Oh my God, that's sickening because it almost doesn't ever work after that. If one passes, it gets like a stink to it. Like the other one's here. And they go, oh, something's bad about it. Oh, we don't want it either. So you do that. Is it what happened? Elf came out or something? And they go, oh, we'll risk it now? No, it was old school. Old school, oh. It came out and they thought, oh, wait. We have this other script with him. We should do something with him. Now we like it. Now we like it. Hey, that made money. Let's do a chart. We take it back. We take it back. We like the thing about the newscasters.

1:12:05That thing. They just couldn't wrap their heads around it that it'd be funny. And I was trying to say, it's kind of what Austin Powers will be to the spy genre. It's like... But anyway, so when we finally got to make it, we were like, let's just hurry. Let's just shoot what... Because they may shut us down at any point. Movies do the best, feel like that's... And then it was one of those where I'm guessing, the last couple takes, do whatever you want. Just keep doing shit. just act stupider and stupider and then someone's got to pick the one that's that you live with forever but then you go god there was five other ones that were just as ridiculous did you ride

1:12:44Dana Carvey:that way i mean because were you on 35 millimeter film in the 90s and then you get on the anchorman set or whatever and you got digital for the first time or no when did not not not till anchorman 2 yeah all because then you could improvise for 20 minutes yeah but we would we would do it anyway and just run out. Because it's expensive. Okay. But yeah, we would just go until we heard that film run out and go to the line producer and just say, can you give us cover here? We just need more film stock. I don't know what else to say. And luckily, the studios usually, once you got going, they were okay.

1:13:30Or they see the dailies, they know something's happening. and Talladega Nights is another monster so that one no questions just wanted you to get the applause yeah and Riley was that one of the first with Riley or he was also when I saw Anchorman John did the table read for Anchorman and we really wanted him to be in it and he was doing he had to go do Gangs of New York or something you know some bullshit Scorsese thing and uh yeah and uh yeah i'm here preached so but you know it's good you guys wound up in that oh and stepbrothers so uh you guys run up in those and uh yeah so these are consistent successful comedies which isn't very very hard to do yeah it's been uh it's been good which is why it's just fun to use your guys podcast to announce my retirement yeah and uh yeah Should we be honored?

1:14:34Do you feel like you're hogging all the good movies or something? Give someone else a chance. Yeah, I want to let. I want to do, we should do a remake of I've already forgotten it. The farty blood guy character. Warning shart. Warning shart. Yeah. Your joke. I didn't, yeah. Warning shart? Yeah. Yeah. Let's do a shot for shot remake of Warning shart. We could put a little more money, get a director. Get that same effects guy. Yeah, the effects guy. That guy's still around. You ever have the sound guy get in your face? Hey, man, we're just going to wire you up here. I'm like, sir, sir, I got it.

1:15:16They're like, it's going to go right down your base. Do you have a lot of problems? Go up your foot hole and I'm like, where does it need to go? You want a waist or you want an ankle? What do you want? What do you want? You want an ankle? What do you like? Can I tape this to your chest? Is that all right? Do you want it up the B hole? You know what that is? Do you mind holding this small microphone? Do you want to put it in your beard? Bury it in your beard? Do you mind swallowing this microphone? It would help production. I want to get the sound of your digestive juices. Can you learn how to use this boom mic?

1:15:52Take it home with you on the weekend. Can you hold it just out of frame and do your own brain? It's a good arm exercise. It would help.

1:15:59Dana Carvey:I used to feel sorry for those guys with the 40 foot boom for shaking like that and I'm like I got another funny idea and they're like motherfucker this guy's triception and they'll cut and the guy's like

1:16:19Dana Carvey:lays down in convulsions we got it easy I have a question don't you feel that you'd be fired from every single job on a movie set except for the ones that we get to do? Right? Like a real movie? That's what I feel like. Well, I mean, it seems like you were all, most of the time, working with like-minded spirits. No, I mean as an actor. All the other jobs are so much harder than just goofing around. Right. I would rather just goof around and have someone shoot it. I could never do a real job. No, wait I didn't know Doesn't my question make sense? Yeah, no, I'm just saying Between like camera, director Yeah All these other jobs To be an actor, it's like That's the easiest one That's why they all hate us Because they go look at you and they go Look at you coming in here, tra la la Oh, do you have to memorize three lines?

1:17:20And they're like Give me a minute, he's coming you know it's all that stuff and they're all waiting and then you walk out can i get a quick spritz of final net all right ready final final net that goes with isn't that hairspray final net there kid are you is that one of your guys sponsors final net yeah we have hey our sponsors are here i think show of hands now when you i'm i'm jump i'm gonna to jump around here. I'm going to jump around here. You're going to jump around. Rapid fire. And Norm was in Jeopardy with you a lot. Yeah. Any funny Norm stories or anything about Norm? Yeah, my God. Because Jeopardy, again, one of the big sketches that one of those big sketches everyone remembers.

1:18:08Yeah. Always funny. Daryl was funny and Norm was great. Yeah. The best Norm story was, I think it's the one where he's wearing, he comes back and he's wearing a big foam cowboy hat. He's like, that's funny, huh? Look, wearing a cowboy hat. And anyway, there's some beat where I have to be super exasperated with him and I yell at him and we get out of the sketch. And Norm comes running after me. He's like, hey, well, everything okay? I go, yeah, why? He's like, you seem kind of mad at me out there. I'm like, no, Norm. I'm act we've done it this is like the fourth time we've done the sketch no but that time it just seemed like you really were mad at me for some reason I was like no we're good

1:18:58Dana Carvey:that's very that's very Norm right there that's his sense of humor yeah he seemed kind of mad there for a moment right but he was not I don't think he was doing a bit he wasn't doing a bit he might have been serious that you were dreaming he also was very sensitive in that way too he was very shaken yeah and then because you can commit hard and you probably scared him another Norm Another great Norm story has nothing to do with Quebec. And Catan told me about it. They were on a flight together back L.A. to New York. Chris had taken off his shoes, and he can't find his shoes. They're about to land.

1:19:36Can't find his shoes. He's going to the flight attendant. Have you seen my shoes? I took them off. He's like, I don't know. Catan's like, Norm, come on. You took my shoes? No, I didn't. I didn't take your shoes. Why would I take your shoes? It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I've never taken... He's like, come on, give me back my shoes. I know you took them. I know. Norm's like, I don't know what you're talking about. Catan has to walk through JFK.

1:20:03Dana Carvey:With no shoes? With no shoes, just in his socks.

1:20:10An entire season goes by. and then Catan and Norm are jousting back and forth about something and then Norm finally goes oh yeah and one other thing I did take your shoes

1:20:25that flight in November flight in November I took him I threw him in the trash can just so you know yeah because I saw his shoes there and I just had to grab his shoes so yeah you were right he used to give Catan so much shit Oh my God, yeah. He was tough. Okay, let's see if we have anything else. Well, before we let you go. Oh, and the other thing I was thinking about today, Downey used to give me the great, I loved being... Jim Downey. Sorry, Jim Downey. Great writer. Legendary writer who came up with Strategery. Oh, he did.

1:21:04Dana Carvey:I had the A-Team too writing for me with Al Franken and Jim Downey. Yeah. But Downey, I loved being in Downey, sketches for a number of different reasons but the best was between dress and air and you do it every single time and it i would laugh hard every single time he'd go great job take it down about a thousand percent and then i would just yes and i'd be like uh-huh yeah okay and he's like i don't know what happened you must have you must have gotten into your big juice or something but he would literally tell me to take it down a thousand percent worst advice yeah did you made me laugh every time he would never say he's joking yeah yeah yeah yeah i remember one time i did a joke on hollywood minute about with jokes you know they had some some had a little more of a some were clever some had a little mean streak but i did a jim carrey one the funniest part is i liked 99 of the people of course jim carrey i was just trying to get a foot in the door at snl and uh whatever it took but jim was doing these you know the movies that i loved but i said and they would always prod me to go farther right because it was like through them i dare you you know so i said oh jim's carry after this one of his movies just rushed to the hospital after an overdose of uh uh overacting pills with play it too big juice and uh and the crowd just stared at me and it was it was too soon don't don't mess with our fucking guy yeah yeah jim carrey and i was like no i love you know and anyway that was cut after dress but uh but dress hers was a good but that was those guys and they they would write me the roughest oh because the hollywood minute jokes like the rewrite table they go jim would be like oh you would never well no you're too much of a pussy and i go no i'm not what and then he'd tell me i go yeah i'm too much of a pussy yeah I'm not saying that He goes Of course Because you're a pussy And I go Why But it was all Whatever he wanted to say And get the anger out And get to me Well then they hide Behind the whole thing Oh I know That's why it's so funny They get to say Whatever they want But I would have to Sort of temper it But always funny I mean they're always just They're just fucking rude Wait one last Norm Macdonald story Yeah Sorry Love them Do you remember The Mama Celeste Frozen pizza commercials No Yes No I don't And it was this And she would say Abondanza Abondanza yeah which is a made up marketing word there's no there's no word in the italian language i thought that was genuine italian yeah and one day we're sitting around in the writer's room having lunch and we're doing a bit where i'm like hey guys this lunch is pretty good abundanza right and everyone goes yeah abundanza and norm's sitting i'm like norm come on just say it say abundance like no i'm not gonna say it like come on norm just say it abundance i won't do it i'm not gonna say it we get like 15 of us like come on norm it'd be rude now ever we've all said abundance you should just say abundance no i don't want to say it i'm not gonna say it i won't say you never would say it anyway that's the end of the story but

1:24:24Dana Carvey:yeah all right well i think i think we're gonna have a few people like his voice question hey a penny saved is a penny earned they say right that's like a 100 return you can't get that anywhere is that what he said i was just talking on the phone with norm you know you know you should bury some money right because then later on your relatives will dig it up and then have money, right? You just had the driest, funniest vibe. I didn't have a TV the first year when I was on the show because I just didn't buy one because I thought I'm never going to be in my apartment. So I'd go and watch the NBC Sports feed on like a Sunday.

1:25:02Norm, of course, is in there. And Norm enjoyed gambling on sports. And we were watching some game and I'm like, ooh, got to watch out. University of Cincinnati they're pretty good in the mud he's like really and I go yeah I think they're like 750 winning percentage in rainy games I didn't know that logs it away I think we're doing a bit there's no way how do I know that stuff

1:25:44week later you cost me 35 grand I'm like what do you mean Cincinnati, University of Cincinnati what? you said they were really good and rainy you bet on I was joking you bet that much why are you telling me that amount too

1:26:10Dana Carvey:that's like when norm asked lovett's for give me give me 200 so they're playing a casino you know he's like john's like okay so the next day oh lend john huh lend lend and he goes yeah yeah and then lovett's like can i get my money back and he goes no no yeah i lost i lost all of it he goes why are you mad i lost eight thousand dollars yeah he goes you only lost 200 you only last 200. We love Norm. There was only one Norm. It was amazing. A comedy genius. So Will Ferrell... Dana, I think they want to ask a few questions in the audience. Then we'll get Will to his limo. I was just going to butter up Will.

1:26:50Dana Carvey:I was going to say to Will, because he loves sports, like if I was going to do a sports team of SNL stars, you know, I'd put you at the power forward. Oh, okay. Maybe an Ackroyd or a Phil at the center Maybe Bill Hader After that I never try to pick SNL people Because then I go fuck Adam Sandberg I miss him But I would Lawrence said that about you He's a top two at least Top two Well is he possibly one I'm not going to say but he's a top two Top three Where in that three I don't know We don't know I feel like the general consensus is Me Dana Will in the history of SNL. I think it's Spade. And sometimes it mixes up.

1:27:37Dana, Will. Will, Dana, me. Yeah. Yeah. But we're up there, man. It's lonely, but we're up there.

1:27:44Dana Carvey:No, yeah. Now, I was sort of an intern there for six years. David Spade plays the little engine that could, but who got an incredible career? Who did World Missy? 800 million minutes. Raw Missy. Yeah. 800 million minutes. That's how it goes now. Six billion minutes. That's a hit. That feels good. I don't know. It sounds like a lot of minutes. Yeah, six billion minutes. It's the biggest film in Chile. Oh, yeah. They love you in Uruguay, kid. I can't step foot in Bulgaria. Lower Mongolia. You're killing it. Go out there. We're going to ask Will. We'll give four questions to the audience, and then, Will, you don't even have to answer if you don't want to.

1:28:26Just make them feel stupid.

1:28:32All right, does anyone have a question? And then he'll run out there and then... Oh, we got one over there. Let me see. Oh, too late. He was over there. Oh, no, I'm over here. Hello. Okay. Do you guys have a favorite sketch that literally just never made it even past pitch? Like, not something that got cut for time or cut from rehearsal, but you pitched it and you thought it was great and it just did not go over. I had a sketch that tops my list. I had written a sketch about a guy who looks exactly like Gabe Kaplan from Welcome Back Cotter. And he's a super, and he works in an insurance, he works, the insurance company he works for, he knows that Gabe Kaplan is a client.

1:29:23and it's the day that gabe kaplan came in to renew his insurance coverage but no one told him no one told my character that gabe kaplan was there and uh i was how did this not get on are you sure this got on no it got on a dress oh but it was so silent at one point there's the smallest laugh in the world like kind of in the upper deck there you just hear but it died so hard so that was but it worked great at the table I have one quickie which was a guy, I'm sorry buddy he was obsessed with Kurt Cobain after his death and I worked at Baskin Robbins and I wouldn't wash my hair and Bob Odenkirk and I wrote it and it was Kurt, every time I was trying to name ice creams after him and then when people come in they go, my manager goes you gotta wash your hair I go, no, Kurt, he, Kurt and Dirt, you can't wash him away.

1:30:25And then, again, crickets. But that was crickets at read-through with Odenkirk, who's a great writer. And it was a fully formed sketch, and it just didn't work.

1:30:35Dana Carvey:On season two, we're doing a press conference, and they said, do you have any new catchphrases to me? So I just said my new catchphrase is, I got to, got to, got to go. so I wrote a sketch called funny little poopy head and I was Mr. funny little poopy head Jan Hooks was and it was really if it had gotten on I would have enjoyed it but it was just to hear Lorne say funny little poopy head so there was so much stage direction and Lorne Michaels had to say that funny little poopy head walks into the room funny little poopy head walks across the room and then he goes I got to, got to, got to go. And then Jan Hooks' hook was, and I'm going with them.

1:31:20Dana Carvey:Never made it to air. Only at the Largo. Yeah. Yep. All right, next one, Greg. Anybody? A little slow to the... Oh, Greg. Yeah. Hey, you did a college game day in 2010 with Lee Corso. What was he like? Is that for me? I don't think I did I don't remember I being in it so was that you oh uh it was a film called college game day no college game day would that have been outside the coliseum oh before the SC Oregon game yeah oh easy rain man are you wearing an N95 yeah aren't learn course or so yeah Yeah, definitely outside the Coliseum. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. I'm an excellent driver. I don't remember having much interaction with Lee Corr.

1:32:19I'm sure he was nothing but lovely. What about Lee Van Cleef? Did you ever do anything with Lee Majors? What about Lee Van Cleef? All right. Lee Van Cleef and I. That was awesome. This young man, you've had your hand up for so long. Go ahead. I think for the podcast, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, Will, Dana You guys were part of a video Where you played The Bushes For all the presidents For Ron Howard Do you guys have any stories about that And David, will there be a sequel to that movie Don't make up a question for me You love these two

1:32:59Dana Carvey:He's huge and chilly And David, are you taking an Uber home? First of all, that was with Funny or Die For Funny or Die What was for Funny or Die about passing legislation? Yeah, some legislation. And I remember we just did our characters one at a time. We had everyone who'd played a president on SNL. Yeah. We even had Dan Aykroyd do Bob Dole, I think. I know he was there. Bob Dole. Aykroyd. Or was it Norm? Aykroyd did Jimmy Carter. Oh, Jimmy Carter? Jimmy Carter? Oh, yeah, probably Jimmy Carter. Oh, did he do Nixon? Oh, God, he did a lot. I'll just do all that. Chevy did Ford. Chevy did Ford. Fred did Obama.

1:33:46Yes.

1:33:47Dana Carvey:Wow. Oh, wow. Did Kerry do it wrong? I just remember when I was doing something, and you said you liked it afterwards. I was just ad-libbing as George Bush Sr., and the phrase came out, he went full fecal. I don't remember what it meant, but I remember he came out after him, like the full fecal part. you just remember things full fecal gotta do it fecalcation

1:34:16I'm getting more relaxed all the time we're finally relaxed we got one more question alright

1:34:25hey this is whenever you are on SNL you would often go on Conan as different characters you would never come on as yourself was Conan aware of this because I feel like he was not in on the bit and he was often surprised when you would do this no he was just very good at acting and playing along because that I mean did you ever try to surprise him with anything but then you would ad lib and stuff you'd go way off Conan and that whole stuff they were so into please do whatever you want that was like the greatest show to go on that early conan because they were just embrace any sort of bit it was like i got you know i have an idea where i want to get in a drum off with a kid drummer and he's going to be much better than i am and then i'm going to chase him out of the state you know and they're like yep let's do it uh okay i have another bit where i want can you set up a pull-up bar and I want to do a setup where I'm going to do as many pull-ups as I can do and I'll give $10 ,000 to charity and I can't even get one pull-up.

1:35:47For every pull-up you get hard 20. And I just struggle. Like 15 seconds. You're like, I did 30 yesterday. What's wrong? I can't get one. Oh well. too bad march of dimes you know whatever but uh no they would funny they would go for everything

1:36:07Dana Carvey:and it seems like you always had a gear where a lot of your stuff if the sound broke i call it funny with the sound off it would still work you know just because like like the cowbell guy just the way you were dancing around like just all that walking was good in that too right god yeah he's do people know is this true that you you tried it out with different hosts and it never got on until Walken came around? I tried it. Well, it's funny. It was the season before was Norm's last season because you guys were talking about it with Downey, the whole Norm getting fired. And then strangely enough, he comes back the next year to host.

1:36:47Oh, yeah. Which was bizarre. They fired me. Yeah. But I tried it at the table with Norm as the record producer. Yeah. And it worked fine, but it just didn't get it picked. And then I brought it back later going, oh no I'm going to rewrite this for walking it's hard to do it twice it's hard yeah I was there that

1:37:04Dana Carvey:night I was doing a guest spot of something and I remember that destroying and yeah we were way over and where were you I was about to say you weren't dead center no it was way in the corner dead corner there do you remember what was the audience can't see how did that come out just suddenly because it's such a bizarre incredibly inexplicable idea that's why it's just as funny now. You could watch it 20 years later. You look funny. It's a weird song. Yeah, listening to Blue Oster Cold on the radio. Yeah, it was just that cowboy. Hearing that faint cowboy going, does that guy have any friends? You know?

1:37:42Is that the only song he ever got to play cowboy on? And then I'd always, I'm like, I'm going to write that as a sketch. Nothing you can pitch. And so I write it and I rewrote it for walking. And I was just like, oh, I know that if Christopher Walken says, I have a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell, only he can get a laugh off of that. You can't lose, because the stiffer he does, the more he's married to the cue cards. I have a fever. Yeah. And you're phonetically almost getting through it, and it's so fucking funny.

1:38:18Dana Carvey:And I remember, is Kevin Pollack here? Could you do Christopher Walken? Is he here? Oh, is he here? No. Oh, Kevin Pollack. So this is the world's greatest Christopher Walken impression. Oh, shit. I have a fever. Prescription is more cowbell.

1:38:41Dana Carvey:Kevin Pollack. You. Kevin Pollack. Kevin Pollack happened to be here. But you would say to Walken, you go, hey, Chris, you're just killing it. you're so funny and everything. And he'd be like, we should have Kevin do it. Really, because I have... Gone to the party. I have no idea. I just say the lines. He doesn't even get the sketch. And I was like, well, you're doing great. If you say so. Okay. Like I got in trouble for complimenting him. Got a fever for cowbell. I'm just doing Kevin now but yeah there was something magic about that thing anyway that was something special I like those ones that live on forever those are great so Will Ferrell you are one of the all time and you're still going strong I don't know what you're doing next but I was going to ask you what's the longest break you've had in the last 25 years from doing show business it seems like you've been did you have six months off at one time oh sure so you take breaks And what do you do during your breaks?

1:39:55Dana Carvey:You ran three marathons. Long time ago. That was just a passion? Yeah, just wanted to run. I retired in 03. Lauren wouldn't take you back. Right. Are your kids all taller than me yet? Oh, they're... My 13-year... I'm like joking. My 13-year-old will dominate. Yeah. Yeah. I know kids are 11 when they're taller than me. I'm like, oh. I just... You just hang out, right? I'm... I love... I'm Uber driver for my kid. You know, I have a sophomore in high school, go to his basketball games. That's kind of fun when they're like 10, 11, 12 and you're driving them to school and I'd play a day in the life for them.

1:40:32Dana Carvey:Right. You know, and they play me hip hop and stuff, which is a fair exchange. But it's a lot of fun and cool bonding because I was noticing my kids weren't talking to me in the car at a given age when I'm driving them to school. And then I would put on AM news radio and a man was killed today and shot. Blood was flying. And they're like, Dad, what was that? What's going on? So that really would open them up. But you must have had experiences like that. Maybe it was. But truly, you must have made them fans. And we've made a concerted effort to just take the whole summer off, no matter what I'm working on.

1:41:08So we go to Sweden, of all places, every summer. So my wife's Swedish. We have a place out there. The boys all speak Swedish. They hang out with their cousins. God, that's too cool.

1:41:19Dana Carvey:So they're just bonded with Sweden. That's hip. Yeah. Isn't most of life just, I feel like even really busy people, most of life is hanging out and talking. Absolutely. I mean, isn't that what we do most of the time? I mean, we work and stuff. We just did it. You're just trying to watch something on TV with your wife. I mean, do you watch live streaming shows? Simple pleasures. Yeah. Do you watch All Creatures, Great and Small? If you want liquid Xanax, this is this brilliant show that's just so 1940. I thought the Beatles documentary was that too, in a way. Oh my God. Get back. Unreal. It's nice of you to say that.

1:41:57Dana Carvey:I do am a bit older now. We appreciate that you like it. But we were just lads plonking. I don't know who that is. Is that Billy Preston? It's Billy Idol. Did you meet McCartney, Will, when you were on SNL? Did you see McCartney? Was he on when you were on? I don't know if he was I think he was 93 He was on I know when I was there with He must have been I know Mick Jagger Jimmy did that Mick Jagger Mick Jagger? Oh I came in Lauren's office This happens to you at Saturday Night Live once Lauren's office in 8H And I just walked in and no one told me And then just Mick Jagger's just sitting there With a little sweater and corduroy pants on And combed hair Lauren likes to blindside you with a big star Yeah He likes to collect china in different coffee cups.

1:42:52Tell him about your stamp collection. He's very, what you would call, aereodite. The dinner where Lauren tried to convince me to stay longer. Yeah, who was there? He kept saying, Mick may stop by. I'm like, okay. That's what I tell people, but he never stops by. All right. And we keep talking. He's like, so Mick, you know, because they produced some movie together. Right. And I'm like, yeah, fine. Okay. And then all of a sudden, Lauren's eyes go wide. He's here. He's here. Okay. You sit there. No, no, no, no. No, I'll sit here. I'll sit here. I'll sit like this. And you sit over there. No, no, no.

1:43:33You sit. Hi, Mick. Hello. Hi. Yes. And I sat. Well, he wants your seat. Move. Yeah, move.

1:43:40Dana Carvey:Move. You'd be an idiot. Did you always have to guess when he said Paul? Because there were two Pauls. Paul Simon, Paul McCartney. Paul's coming over which one? I sat there awkwardly for 45 more minutes waiting? no Mick showed up and I didn't know what to say once again I didn't know what to say yeah and then the next day at rehearsal Lauren was like wasn't that the greatest dinner? and I think he was just excited that he said a celebrity was going to show up and they actually showed up what was your most star struck moment? you know for me like meeting Tarleton Heston was a big deal you know like whoa you know because you meet these hosts and they're sitting down there and then they go would you like to go say hello to robert mitchum sure you know it's like you're walking down the hall she would come in get in there sharon stone no one's in there i'm like okay and then you go in there she needs help that's smart she's reading a magazine she's like what i'm like i'm supposed i don't know you know what i mean you know marcy with uh george w they called me he was in the studio because they were going to tape one of those election specials and they had gore do his part yes clear the studio then they bring w in there they call me at home they're like get down here w is a huge fan wants to meet you and i just started doing the impression and i was like okay okay i go down to 8h there's 100 reporters everything yeah and they're it was like ayala and Marcy are like, go, go up there.

1:45:11Dana Carvey:Just go and talk to him. And I'm like... Even the cue card guy's going, get up there, Wally. Hi, I'm Will. I could tell he has no idea that I'm the guy who plays him. Because you hadn't done it during the debates. Exactly. So it was fledgling. It was fledgling. And then he doesn't know me from... He could care less. And you got bamboozled. We both just did this to each other. You did Roxbury. how did you yeah we did rock did you awkwardly say i go uh thank thanks so much for doing this yeah this is uh you got a lot is this a hectic work week for you

1:45:53yeah it's a busy week seems like a lot but you could tell he was stressed to be there. It was just like... And Al Gore was there too, right? And Al Gore was there and commanding the room.

1:46:07Dana Carvey:Oh, yeah. He seemed... We're going to put it in a log box. He was like totally presidential. And W was... But then when they debated, it flipped. Well, W... Yeah, well, whatever. How did you... Like, did you have to study tapes or you just kind of got it just by watching him? Watching. Daryl Hammond helped me a little bit. Tightening the neck, right? That and the eyes squinting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you could, you did kind of look like him when you got the whole gear on. But I think it, and it got better over time, but at first it was not, Same with me. I didn't have Bush Senior at all. Only Ross Perot was quick because it was such a cartoon right away.

1:46:49Dana Carvey:Can I finish one time? Uh-huh. Can I finish one time? Can I finish one time. That's all it needed. Just that. Basically James Brown. Can I do it on the one? Can I do it on the one? Get on up like a sex machine. Sorry. Just stick. Phil Hartman playing Admiral What's-His-Face. Who is that guy? Which one? Stockdale. Is that it? Stockdale. And he couldn't hear out of one ear. Perot was driving him. You guys did the driving stuff. Yeah, and then, yeah, why don't you take a walk over there? And then he's just going, hey. Yeah, who am I? Where am I? Where am I? He was doing Scotdale. He was confused.

1:47:41Dana Carvey:Politics is fun. All right. All right, we got to let Will go. We should let Will go, right? We do. He wants to go on. What do we do? All right, can we do three questions? Favorite toy as a kid? Don't think too hard. Probably Legos. Legos? Yeah. Wrong. His was Stretch Armstrong. Or Micronauts. I love Micronauts. Did you have a bicycle that you really liked? Yeah, Schwinn. Schwinn, Stingray. Stingray. What was the TV show or movie? Why is that funny? Because I think he said, yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah, yeah, that one. Well, Schwinn was famous. I think there was only one bike. I had a Sears front loader.

1:48:22Dana Carvey:My parents read out on money. so you're a little kid you're like 8, 10, 11 and there's a TV show or a cartoon or a movie that just made you love show business or just blew your mind I'll give you an example Ben Stiller said it was the Poseidon Adventure that made him want to be a filmmaker that was a cool movie Gene Hackman well I always loved Shelley Winters she sure had a figure yeah Yeah, I would say Poseidon Adventure too.

1:48:57Dana Carvey:Gene Hackman is unbelievable. He was great. It's up there. That's how we'll live. Up there. One inch thinner. Tried, Kevin. I'll remember the real answer driving home after this. The one thing I saw Jason and the Argonauts. It could be, you know, I saw those. And Wild Wild West was kind of my age group. Land of the Lost I loved but that didn't make me want to go into showbiz Little House on the Prairie that made me want to go into what made you want to well I loved we're not leaving we went past this the pressure's building it's a nine parter these are the shows I loved Happy Days, LaBern and Shirley that block on Tuesday nights and then I loved Saturday Night was Fanta's Island Love Boat me too see those are so relaxing we need shows like that but I wanted to live on the love boat I wanted to be always happy always calm fun guests every week and Julie that coked up cruise director she was great I watched that same block Happy Days and Laverne and Shirley Fonzie literally jumped the shark I made my mom watch it with us.

1:50:19I was like, watch. Isn't it funny to think that Henry Winkler, he was the coolest guy in America at that point in time.

1:50:26Dana Carvey:Couldn't believe it. It was so cool, yeah. And the toughest guy. I knew people thought he could beat up anyone. Well, the Fonz could beat up anybody. He never really got in a fight, to be honest. No, he just hit. He'd snap his fingers and they'd run or something. I don't want to date myself, but mine was Danny Kaye. He never could say he was sorry, right? Fonz. Yeah, he was too. Oh, I thought he couldn't say. yeah he couldn't say something maybe i love you maybe sorry let's call hank winkler i don't know he's great and berry you know what let's look at a clip

1:50:58hey clips what do you think he almost got it bifida

1:51:04Dana Carvey:you just got a little touch of bifida i did yeah spinal bifida that's what we're going to name this episode that's going to be in the it's like not funny i don't know why we keep saying Let me take it down As Denny Miller We heard from the Spud Man With the spinal bifida Raspberries in the Sound effect guy's face Feral laid down The feral cat brought it heavy today You did bring it man My Lincoln Town car is waiting for me I always request a Lincoln Town A late model Lincoln Town car Did you buy something when you first got a million dollars, you buy a crazy car or anything? I bought a... Something from the Elvis store.

1:51:52Dana Carvey:Elvis checklist? I was like, sorry, I didn't want to jump. I don't want to be the joke of the thing. It's all good fun, Davey. Okay, okay. I bought one of Elvis' guns, and I looked at the Providence, and it realized Spade was the previous owner. By the way, when he worked there, you were very polite, you were very nice. I don't think you said you were in comedy at all. I don't think you told me that. In fact, I still worked. I got hired at SNL, but they don't pay you until you show up. I had bills to pay. I was still answering the phones for like a month and a half. Did you have it transferred to your office?

1:52:29Answering the phones at where? Here in LA. Oh, okay. At the art auction. And my coworkers were like, didn't you get on Saturday Night Live? I was like, yeah, but I don't leave until August, so I'm here. and they don't pay you anything I read it said you were the highest paid cast member ever I don't think so

1:52:51Dana Carvey:they said it was what was your starting salary like when you first got on do you remember per show I'm guessing $6 ,000 it was something like that it was$55 ,000 or$6 ,000 $4 ,500 times$20 ,000 90 grand. Keep 30. Broke even. Easy. Start Saturday Night Live. I mean, 900 a week to write. $1 ,500 to bump if I got on update or something. But the male prostitution paid the bills. Yeah. I ran a glory hole on 18. We don't want to go on that specific. It was just you were a friendly guy. I never got that reference because they'd be... If your sketch ever scored, they'd be like, ah, that was a real glory hole.

1:53:46And we're like, what does that mean? But never mind. Ask Spade. All right. We're going to take a break and come back

1:53:54Dana Carvey:with our guest today, Will Phineas. Second half will be better. Second half of the show. Second half of the show. Let's give everyone a five. Second half will be better. Take five. See who stays. I'm going to talk with a Swedish accent. The rest. Is this offensive, this accent? That is really authentic. I'm no... Yeah. I'm a lot Norwegian. We don't like the sweets. I know. That's a bad rivalry. Will. Yeah. Is the Swedish chef get a lot of poontang in Sweden? Be honest. The Muppet character? Yeah.

1:54:29Who else? Hernda, shirnda, skirnda. Skirnda. You watch the Muppet show. He's with the human hands. Yeah. He was. That guy was talented. I knew that when I watched. That guy was talented. He could cook, and he had a presence.

1:54:43Dana Carvey:That made you want to be in show business. That's the thing. God, that's your answer. Sesame Street. We were trying to help you. Sesame Street. Yeah. All right. Good Lord. They're turning the lights off. Okay. Okay. You guys, thank you. Thank you so much for hanging with us. Thank you. The great little Farrell. Thank you very much. Hey, guys. If you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app. Give us a review. Five-star rating. and maybe even share an episode that you've loved with a friend. If you're watching this episode on YouTube, please subscribe.

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