Tim Dillon: It’s Hard To Be Rich In This Biz…

9 Apr 2026 · 52 min · 21 chapters

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In short

Tim Dillon riffs on showbiz absurdity and politics, then pivots to practical entertainment promotion. He discusses the pressure of tax deadlines and “full service” tax handoff (TurboTax), the idea of a military draft as a way to end the Iran war (with dark jokes about weight/medication), and how wars and protests become “snackable” brand-aligned content. He also talks about Hollywood funding/priorities, LA’s population decline, and his own life in Dubai/Gulf states. He shares stories from touring and from working on films (including difficulty memorizing lines).

Guests

Tim Dillon (comedian/podcast host; known for high-energy, often offensive sarcasm; Netflix special “I’m Your Mother”; podcast “This Is Not Happening” mentioned as “this shit”; acted in “Busboys” and “Joker 2” is referenced). No other guest is clearly interviewed; Dana Carvey is the host/participant.

Key claims

debt is “freedom” (even for children); draft would be “fun”/effective; drone/war economics favor defense contractors; LA film industry needs renewed focus.

Notable examples

TurboTax expert handoff; Meghan Markle/Suits speculation; Euphoria “leash” scene with Hunter Schafer; “Busboys” ticketing via busboymovie.com; touring fan in an airport after a motorcycle accident; Trump’s energy and “McDonald’s is healthy” belief.

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Introduction to Tim Dillon

2:42 to 4:58

Dana and David introduce comedian Tim Dillon and discuss his style.

“You put your coffee cup on it so it doesn't spill all over your illegitimate children, you animals.”

Comedy Dynamics and Storytelling

4:59 to 7:46

The hosts discuss the dynamics of comedy and storytelling in entertainment.

Lights Out Show Experience

7:47 to 9:37

Tim shares his experiences and thoughts on the show Lights Out.

“And then Tim has a special called, what is it called on Netflix?”

Discussing Celebrity Culture

9:38 to 12:28

A conversation on celebrity culture, including Savannah Guthrie's return.

“but they're here and we got to make the best of it.”

Megan Markle's Career Choices

14:18 to 16:36

Discussion about Megan Markle's transition from Suits and her career direction.

“Please follow and listen to Family Lore, an Odyssey podcast available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your shows.”

Thoughts on Tim Dillon's Professionalism

16:36 to 20:38

Insights into Tim Dillon's work ethic and performance on set.

“I don't think it worked as well as she thought it would.”

Challenges in Acting

20:38 to 23:28

Tim Dillon shares struggles with remembering lines on set and experiences in major films.

Busboys Movie Promotion

23:28 to 26:50

Discussion surrounding the Busboys movie and its potential cultural impact.

“Just doing them in your trailer, even if you run them with someone, you walk on set, and then the real people are in front of you.”

Fan Encounter at the Airport

27:38 to 28:00

A story about an encounter with a fan who shares a dramatic personal story.

“So I'm in the airport, and this dude comes up, and he goes, hey, I was at your show tonight, but my flight's an hour and a half late, so I'm sort of just fielding.”

A Close Encounter with a Fan

28:00 to 29:00

Tim shares a humorous encounter with a fan who has experienced serious health issues.

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The Concept of a Draft

29:00 to 30:40

The discussion shifts to the implications of a draft and the state of American soldiers.

“shows i kind of think a draft isn't the worst idea oh we're gonna ask you what i mean like But maybe let's get him to Carg Island.”

Commentary on California's Decline

30:40 to 33:10

Tim discusses the population decline in Los Angeles and the challenges facing the city.

“but that'll be the visual end of america yeah well now in boot camp if the sergeant gets mad he goes drop and give me two.”

Life in Austin vs. California

33:10 to 35:40

The hosts compare their experiences living in Austin and California, sharing humorous anecdotes.

“And you were, yeah, well, I like, listen, there's a lot of things I like about Austin.”

Life in Dubai

35:40 to 36:25

Tim shares his current life in Dubai and the unique experiences that come with it.

“Well, I like it because it's safe, you know, and I know people might say, you know, 14 people were shot last week on that one block, but I'll tell you this, I feel safe there.”

Drones and Modern Warfare

36:25 to 37:55

A comedic exploration of modern warfare, drones, and the absurdity of military spending.

“Right now I'm broadcasting from Dubai and I'm incorporated.”

The Business of Being Rich

37:55 to 41:30

Tim discusses the struggles of wealth management and the comedy behind financial advice.

“You got to hand it to them, you know, consistency, quality.”

Debt as a Form of Freedom

41:30 to 42:01

Tim argues that being in significant debt can be liberating and motivates action.

“like what to do, where to put their money at all?”

Debate on Debt: A Frightening Philosophy

42:01 to 44:20

Exploration of the benefits and pitfalls of living in debt as a societal norm.

“I think you should be in an amount of debt that scares you out of bed every morning to work.”

Trump's Lifestyle: A Case Study

44:56 to 48:46

A humorous analysis of Trump's vitality and his unique lifestyle choices.

“Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa.”

Nostalgia for the Dana Carvey Show

48:47 to 51:21

Recollections of the impact and legacy of the Dana Carvey Show.

“and they'll take all these palm beach people down to the bunker while the white house is being droned by some foreign power.”

Tim Dillion's Impact and Projects

51:22 to 52:44

Acknowledgment of Tim Dillion's work, including his podcast and performances.

“Well, Tim, we won't keep you forever, but anything left for this gentleman, Dana?”
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0:00The April 15th tax deadline is coming fast, but don't worry. You can hand off your taxes to a TurboTax expert today. Seriously, Dana, doing taxes the old way is like being stuck in the writer's room at 4 a.m. Mentally freaking out, overloaded, chasing updates, rewriting, waiting on someone else, Jim Downey. It's a disaster.

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2:51I think people got a little turned off by that. The guy from before you called me, Sam Levinson called me over the summer and said, there's a scene we want you to do where you're a sugar daddy and you're paying Hunter Schaefer and Hunter Schaefer has you on a leash and you're walking around the floor like a dog, you're going to have an army of morbidly obese, heavily medicated Disney adults. And that's just what we've got. That's what we've built in this country. That's our front line. That's our front line. Just 48-year-olds dosed with Prozac, dressed like toddlers with Mickey Mouse backpacks, running.

3:31Well, we had a real firecracker, Dana.

3:36Dana Carvey:You predicted it, and then we did it. Tim Dillon. Oh, boy. Tim Dillon, who's such a funny podcast, such a hilarious dude, always has opinions. He was on Lights Out. We talked about that, which is this show. That's where I met him, and then we made him have a little special segment on there. And he just couldn't give a shit. He makes fun of everybody, everything, both political sides. We talk about so many things, and he's a great riffaholic. Yeah. I mean, I really enjoy it. At a certain point, I was just like, okay, just feed him something, and then he'll go on a rant. Kind of reminded me of Dennis Miller and Rush Limbaugh had a baby or something.

4:19Dana Carvey:It's like this high energy. And he never says no. No, whatever you say to him, he starts running with it right away, and it's dripping sarcasm, but ultimately it's always just going for the laugh. It's always funny. Almost always offensive, always hilarious. Offensive and funny. And like you said, you said it well, he's got good word packages. Like, to talk quickly on a subject we're just throwing him, and then he puts it together in a nice little package. It's pretty smart. I mean, it's hard to do. It is. he's yeah it was very very fun to listen and i'm saying shit i shouldn't because we're just getting caught up in like how funny it is to just make fun of everything and to to just say whatever comes to mind and be like it's all comedy but uh anyway here he is tim dylan uh one of our new favorites on here oh fuck me man so i'm the only guy hatless yeah how are we good morning tim i almost bought you i saw these big shades when i was on the road at some store on the road i was like these i should get these for tim but you should have it would kill me to buy him something and be a good friend no i know it's it's it's good to hear about that you thought of it though it's the thought that's really the thought that counts that's right i think it's the most important thing instead of that i spent my money on zingers where were you i was just back in the uh virginia run the coveted the virginia run yeah it's just like all these towns and then you go and i was actually dana you'd be excited about this tim will be bored of fucking tears already duke was playing in norfolk the night i played and then the next night i went they were playing yukon in that city in the building next to me did that hurt your ticket sales or what's the what's the cat no it made him better because everyone fucking loves the spillover tim he's like can you go to 7-eleven grab a big gulp i just i just pointed at someone i said coffee please this is early guys for me this is really i would have done it later i just thought no this is okay i'm i am up and at him i'm just um i like the mornings to record you know tim is a friend of mine dana i'll give you a brief history saw him on lights out because adam he told him told me he's funny because i don't go love comedians and then he came on he's very funny said something very inflammatory of course immediately and i was like oh we got a live wire here and uh remember that tim yes i i It was a big moment.

7:08I enjoyed that. By the way, I loved doing that show. Yeah, that show's built for you. Because he just comes on. He knows a little about everything. So you give him any subject. He starts talking. And then we did it a few times. And then after that COVID hit, no one's blaming Tim. But no one's not blaming him. Of course. And then we started having dinners and hanging out. It was fun. So then he went off and did whatever.

7:33Dana Carvey:Well, the legacy is as follows. and there's probably more right so where was tim in stardom or nikki or theo when you put them on lights out and what compared to where they are now you know what's funny is theo is a bit of a unicorn in the way that he handles all of showbiz decisions and he we were getting to be friends but he said i don't think i'd be good at lights out and then he came on maybe once heather i think He came on once, but it wasn't right for him. It's perfect for Tim. It's perfect for Nikki. And then we all got to be friends. And then Tim has a special called, what is it called on Netflix?

8:13I'm your mother. I forget. I'm your mother. Yeah. It came out last April. I forget. Everything moves so quickly now. I do forget. But yeah, it's on Netflix. And I love doing that show. We did a special little thing on Lights Out where I came in. Oh, that's right. Right? we had a little segment you gave me a segment this was like amazing i just moved to la and i got like a little segment on lights out it was it was a lot of fun and we love adam obviously he's the best out of me and um i missed that show i think there needs to be a show like that where you come in you do quick funny topical stuff and then every week you got to write new stuff right you know that's a great thing it's a good reason and some of it's a little undercooked when you get out there like my own stuff but at least you're talking about things that are new and then sometimes you stumble into a bit it's good um well well one other important observation about

9:07Dana Carvey:that because i did a few times too just the feng shui no band maybe 70 people 80 people felt very intimate and very good when you're out there like it was close to you some studios are kind of distant too much razzmatazz anyway tim comment and then you'd be on the show with comedians you didn't really like. And that was good too, because you go, these people, we don't really like each other. And we kind of, you know, say things about each other on social media subliminally, of course, but they're here and we got to make the best of it. Let's do a fun kind of topical joke about, you know, some woman who disappeared in the Midwest or whatever we were going on about, you know, whatever, whatever the news of the day was.

9:52dude by the way I have a question for Tim and tell him if you disagree when Bad Bunny which I know you have opinions about sure he sang at the Super Bowl get him out of here no I'm kidding a lot of people don't remember Bad Bunny sang at the Super Bowl and at the halftime show I thought he's bringing out people I thought what everyone thought what if he brings Savannah Guthrie's mom out that would have been such a smart move huge and he doesn't like clicks because it would have and she's like yo yo like oh my god she's part of it she's in on it and that would have crushed they wouldn't watch the rest of the game that's the type of joke on lights out the writers would say to you i don't know if it's worth it's a little if that is mother and then you'd have to talk it out with them you'd go i think it is worth it you'll get it it's not worth it for me it's worth it for you because the first time he came on he goes oh and then we're going to commercial he goes oh and quickly when we come back let's talk about caitlin jenner is a murderer and we go oh all right well let's hear from our sponsor mcdonald's and we'll be right back how many episodes were created of that show before you know what did you 150 and tim did a lot of what was your job when you came and sat and talked to it i i when i did that segment i was giving some kind of advice it was like a consultant and i think that you had hired me the gag was the bit was that you that lights out it hired me as some type of like consultant or something yeah like pr rep something was a horrible idea so the majority of it was finding a jacket that fit and then so a woman would just come like a black majority yeah so a laggard looking like a woman would come with one jacket and i didn't know and then she'd go okay and then she'd go to the other costume woman they'd find another jacket they'd discuss they would talk you'd see them talking in the hall holding both jackets but then we eventually got it in the can and that's important to really yeah but uh yeah i heard them in the hall going what's a funnier jacket i was worried about what's funny yeah it's like this one's not funny enough i'm like i think just get a hoodie and he'll be fine yeah the uh those those we we need things like that back you know and i feel bad savannah guthrie by the way now going back to work yeah who's happy about that hoda that's a everybody needs money, I guess.

12:15If I were her, I would take a sabbatical, but it's tough. I guess she feels better going back to the job. I would go back because there's too much thinking in your day of just being alone. Good point. For her to go on the news and just be around the police, I can't even imagine that scenario. Well, you think it's a little traumatizing for her to have to go breaking news every five seconds and it's never what she wants it to be. Yes. You know what It does seem a little crazy. Oh, on the today show, she has to. And we have breaking news. And everybody goes, what? And then she goes, Chapel Roan punched a kid or something.

12:54It's not what she wants it to be. It's never like mommy's home. It's never that. And it's always, you know. Well, how do they get away with it?

13:06Dana Carvey:I mean, we agree she was abducted. But with the cameras and forensic, was it Kistone Cops? I mean, Barney Fife was in charge of the investigation or what? It seems like the family is involved in some sort. I haven't followed it. We're going to go to a commercial. All right. Jim Dillon has been our guest.

13:28K-pop Demon Hunter's Saja Boys breakfast meal and Huntrix meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a battle. So glad the Saja boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.

13:43Dana Carvey:It is an honor to share. No, it's our honor. It is our larger honor. No, really. Stop. You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side. Hey, participate in McDonald's while supplies last. Hi, my name is Lloyd Lockridge, and I'm the host of a new podcast from Odyssey called Family Lore. In this podcast, I'm going to have people on to tell unusual and sometimes far-fetched stories about their families. I've heard my whole life that she invented the margarita. And then we're going to investigate those stories and find out how much of it is true. He gets a patent one month before the Wright brothers.

14:20Oh my God.

14:21Dana Carvey:Please follow and listen to Family Lore, an Odyssey podcast available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your shows.

14:32Dana Carvey:in a classroom of sodas most stay quiet then there's mr pib sweet cherry bold outburst the kind of flavor that gets attention boom kick up cherry i want your opinion on this yeah because megan markle used to be we talked about lights out and she was a lovely young lady she was on suits and then she skyrocketed to fame but i always thought when suits came back things were a little iffy in the are they the duke and duchess anymore are they how much full they have i thought she should have joined suits and been an actress again and made big money for sure she likes acting right do you think she should go to that again he's passed well so you're talking about suits la when that came back yeah is that it yeah yeah well that someone from suits la messaged me i'm not kidding like one of the showrunners like we'd like you to do a small part in this we can't really pay you and the script is bad i mean literally i have the message we can't really pay you and the script is not good and the part is not big and i said well uh they're shooting la yeah thank you for thinking of me um i think megan will eventually find her way into some type of talk show because she's failed at the Martha Stewart route, which she wanted.

15:57She was slinging jam in Target. She wanted to have a lifestyle brand. Yes. Jam was an interesting choice. Yes. Well, it's probably an uncrowded market. Other than Welch's, I can't think of too many. Yeah. There's right. She's definitely, she needs to adjust her strategy, but I could also see her going back to the UK and going back to the UK and saying, let's give it another go. Wow.

16:25Dana Carvey:That's really, I think they do have to go back and stir the brand again. Cause that's the power is to give it a jumpstart. Yeah. Yeah. She's got to do something. I think we're all a little tired of her stick here. I don't think it worked as well as she thought it would. I think she was going to come back. Her idea was to come back to America and say, listen, the British are really racist, but they do know a lot about dinner parties. And I've learned that. So I'm here to tell you how to live like a human being and what fork to use. You pig, you American pig. And I think it felt a little condescending because, you know, she had that show on Netflix where she was basically like, now this is a, this is what they call a saucer.

17:11You put your coffee cup on it. so it doesn't spill all over your illegitimate children, you animals. I think people got a little turned off by that. I like when they go, Prince Harry is marrying a superstar celebrity from America. I'm like, she's on Suits. I mean, I don't know what they think it is over there. I go, she's not even the biggest star on Suits. But the biggest stars in the UK, many of them work at grocery stores. Like, it's a whole different thing. Benedict Cumberbatch. Yeah, like truly, truly some of the top stars over there. It's not like America where they live in mansions and everything like that.

17:49Yeah. You know, many of them just work menial jobs, you know, sort of a cobbler or something, you know. Old school job. Yeah, truly.

17:58Dana Carvey:Yeah. Daniel Day-Lewis was a cobbler. Yeah. They don't have anything going on. I'm not saying, I'm saying no on OnlyFans for now because that's not the move right now. No, it's not. she's got to do something classy yeah classy first and then uh i heard on euphoria sydney sweeney they're upping the anthy with sydney sweeney she's going to be an only fans model really in the show which is kind of smart the guy from euphoria called me sam levinson called me over the summer and said there's this scene we want you to do where hunter you're sugar daddy and you're paying hunter schaefer and hunter schaefer has you on a leash and you're walking around the floor like a dog.

18:40And I go, he goes, but it's only like four lines. I go, I need 12 lines. I'm not flying to California for four lines. I said, I will absolutely do it for like 10 or 12 lines. He goes, it's like four lines. He goes, it's like two lines at a dinner. And then immediately you're on the leash. I go, I don't, I need eight lines or 10 lines before I'm on the leash. I'm, I'm, you know what I mean? Like, well, he says, um, is ARF, ARF two lines or one? I mean, it was literally a call. He goes, I totally understand if you don't want to do it. Don't worry about it. He goes, it's not a lot of lines. He goes, it's two lines, you're on a leash.

19:15And I go, eight lines, ten lines, and then I'm on a leash, fine. Right. One of those retractable. Someone putting a leash on me, you know, is most of the day. I like that you're in your leash at lunch saying hi to everyone. Hey, Zendaya. Oh, 100%. They wouldn't even be on set. I asked, I said, can I at least get a photo? them he goes they won't be he goes we're not letting you near as in day and jacob alorty we're putting a leash on you you're gonna be in a in in some type of segregated area like you have a disease yeah like it's the spanish flu and you're gonna be on a leash hunter shaffer's gonna poke you with a stick and then you're gonna get uh sag healthcare maybe taser your nuts and then that's That's a wrap.

20:00That's a wrap.

20:02Dana Carvey:Who is your agent? Because I'm not hearing a lot of great offers. Candace Owens is behind me recently. No, it's PAA. I have a great age. I have the biggest agency. What are they going to do? They're homeless, half of them now. I mean, what are they, you know? They're getting bought by private equity companies and counting their money. Some of them are. Some of them are in real trouble. That's right. i will say that i hate to admit that tim dylan is very funny as an actor uh when he did busboys and then i think it would help people see you in that because i'll go to my go to where can they get tickets to it oh to busboys yeah do we have busboys movie god go get tickets because we have we have one of the funniest scenes i think we have a great scene me and trailer yeah we have a really funny scene that seems longer and we're gonna put out more footage because we laughed the whole time we laughed the whole time and i was nervous because i didn't know if i was going to remember the lines and i was i was pretty good for someone who doesn't you know i'm not doing this all i will finish the sentence he's very good and he was very i'm not saying shockingly professional but with comedians who cancel spots every night at the end i'm like i don't know what i'm getting i'm not saying tim does that but i'm saying right nobody knows and theo has never done it and so people might think hey like nate diaz was a little loosey-goosey with the schedule me and bobby even came to set you yes bobby lee the biggest gamble and he was on time put that band-aid around his head put i mean i was shocked and tim would come and it would be one of those things where one time i got mad because i said are you still here and i think we just have to do a cutaway or something so he was always sitting his trailer perfectly behaved knew his lines and then one time when you had a long list he had to walk down the line of busboys and kind of on us all i said this is one of those days where i go i wouldn't want this many lines and he had them all memorized boom boom boom so i was very impressed who cares about impressing me but i was just glad that he came and took it seriously well i appreciate that people wouldn't and i took it i took it seriously and and um i surprised myself with my ability to remember the lines because it is difficult that's the hardest part the hardest part really is to remember because you will think you have them down and then you will go on set and then it's and i've screwed movies up you know joker 2 famously i couldn't remember the lines and todd phillips got really mad at me and it's not his fault it's my fault because i couldn't remember Now, some of the directions was confusing, whatever, but that's not my, what am I, you know what I mean?

22:55But it was difficult. The critics have thoughts on it. It doesn't matter. But it was hard for me to do it, and I didn't have the lines down in Joker. And I only had like six lines in Joker, but I kept putting them in the wrong because it's, you know, Joaquin Phoenix and Brendan Glitzkamp, and it's really intimidating. And it was really hard. I was coming off that experience, which was a trauma, traumatic. You know what? That was like Marc Maron in the first one. He had De Niro and Joaquin, and he had to be a normal. It's very hard. All that, just that is scary. Just doing them in your trailer, even if you run them with someone, you walk on set, and then the real people are in front of you.

23:33You can blank because you're like, this isn't how I pictured in my head because I was just doing it like this. Now, there's too much in my head. I'm just saying it's better looking at Jessica Michelle Singleton on set as opposed to Joaquin fitting i felt more oh yes well yeah i felt less well we were more relaxed set for sure it was more fun and we would say do it a million times and say whatever you want and we all uh i like when you go to the one guy frankly you're scaring me i love whatever you want my favorite line is um i don't even know what you're talking about he goes i have a question i don't even know what you're talking This is an old school, like smoke a joint and go to the movie theater.

24:18But don't try. Obviously, I've got an Uber. Listen, a lot of people are comparing it to Inception and some Christopher Nolan films. Well, it is. I think it has a lot of similarities to that. I'm getting Dunkirk vibes. I don't know why. Dana liked the trailer, but we're making him go see it at the movies.

24:37Dana Carvey:Well, it felt like a 90s comedy. And I think the world right now. Oh, I'm going to hot take. It's a little discombobulated right now. So then this really goofy, silly movie with physical comedy and you guys, I don't know. It seems like a good relief from the world. My hope is that it ends the Iran war because people just start going. That's what everyone's banking on. This is probably the direction it goes, if you want my guess. Well, I did have a question for you. This is a non sequitur, but what would it take financially? actually real offer to play Karg Island. Oh, for me? Yeah, to play Karg Island.

25:18My agent would absolutely suggest it, by the way. My agent is a disgusting, money-grubbing monster. And I love him and he's good, but he would absolutely suggest Karg Island. And he would say what he says about everything. He'd go, it's actually an easy flight. That's what he said. I've heard that. Yeah, it's an easy flight. It's New York to Reykjavik and then Reykjavik to Dubai. Dubai right in there. You land on an aircraft carrier. It's an amphibious assault, but we get you on it. No, it's an easy flight. We can promote your name on bombs when they drop. That's a good idea. It's an easy flight.

25:54He goes, it's the amphitheater's big. He goes, it's 3000, but I'm not worried about it. I'm not worried about 3000.

26:00Dana Carvey:It was a certain size and then Trump made it actually bigger. there's a reason i'm not worried about it it's an easy flight they're hungry for comedy you've never been there you starved the market so now that you're there people really show up right when i do when i say it's six flights and it's 17 hours my guy goes and then you're there and then you're right now what a great line they all have and then you're there and then you're home i'm like oh okay then it's done yeah yeah well uh hopefully busboys has some influence on helping end the war because maybe everyone wants it to be over with so they can focus on it well i think so i think we're all ready for silliness and fun and i think people need to stop with the the the killing and the screaming yeah and the right and the rage there's go to busboys and not be angry for 90 minutes 100 then be angry right after again and right before yes but not when spade and Dylan are on the screen doing their magic.

26:59That's when you just let it go.

27:02Dana Carvey:That's when you let it be. So that'll be fun. And I have a couple more things for you that, you know, I know you're very busy. But shouldn't we say where they get tickets? You guys got to get them in advance. Because, well, what we're doing is we're adding theaters this week. So what happens is if the theaters start to fill up Regal or Cinemark, there's a new one. AMC. Markins in Arizona they want to add. So that helps. So they start filling up, they add more. That helps. So where do they go? Just wriggle on. That's it, Busboys Movie. And then you go to busboymovie.com, and then it'll say, put in your zip code.

27:37And then it says, here's the theaters by you.

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27:39Dana Carvey:All right. But I have a story from this weekend. I'm going to buy a ticket. You guys talk about it yourselves. Okay, good. I'm just going to buy it. Do you know your zip code? Ask Paula. All right, Tim. So I'm in the airport, and this dude comes up, and he goes, hey, I was at your show tonight, but my flight's an hour and a half late, so I'm sort of just fielding. it's like comic-con so i'm just sitting with people taking a photo and then they tell someone and they come over and so the one guy goes hey very nice guy looks like burt kreischer and he goes hey uh most of my fans do and he goes um hey i saw your show last night he goes blah blah blah i'm in pain i've been in a car accident on our motorcycle i'm hurt and i go okay cool let's take a quick pick and uh and then he goes yeah it's pretty bad but i sort of skimmed over it but then he goes yeah it was i was in the hospital for about six months and i go okay uh and then he goes i've had it was worse than taylor swift no not taylor swift i was lindsey vaughn he goes you see the picture of lindsey vaughn i said oh yeah her leg and all that scaffolding on and i said that looked bad he goes nothing that was nothing and i go well i'll let her know and then he said so it's i have all these things on me and he goes anyway long story short he goes i think uh he goes i almost died and you know what i remember going under and i felt i started playing the last kill tony shows i saw in my head and i go god damn is this it when you go that's really living kill tony shows i kind of think a draft isn't the worst idea oh we're gonna ask you what i mean like But maybe let's get him to Carg Island.

29:14I don't know how bad of an idea it is to get that guy. Get him on an aircraft carrier now. I mean, I said, if this is the end and I'm thinking of old Kill Tony, which I love Kill Tony, but I don't think that's the first thing that's coming to mind. But anyway, he goes, I'm going to switch my flight and come see you again tonight. I said, great. Oh, that's cool. I'm going to get you in. I got him in. And he did show up. So nice enough guy. of course i make fun of him but nice enough guy and yes is there a draft and are you going well i i don't know if there will be a draft i think there are certain people that want a draft and um um it would be fun to have a draft because if you really want to lose a war send americans i mean truly like in in an embarrassing way and and because there's two problems uh there there's it's there's cowardice sure but then there's also we have a lot of weight problems in the country and if and fat cowards is the worst thing in the world so if you if americans on their televisions watch fat people run away from battle they will never be able to recover from that yeah and the image of the country will never be able to recover from that watching fat people run away from a battle will be the end of america just the visual of that the visual of fat people running away from a battle uh will be the end of america visually and it's maybe how it should end but that'll be the visual end of america yeah well now in boot camp if the sergeant gets mad he goes

30:52Dana Carvey:drop and give me two. Yeah, right. Three crunches, all the matches. It's just the whole army being shot up with Ozempic and going, I can't deploy on my shot day. Yeah. My muscles are being eroded. I have to wait three or four days. I can't, on the day of my shot, I can't do heavy combat. I have ADD. Yeah, that's tough. and there's no tick tock out there on the battlefield i don't think uh there should be but they would probably drop the weight requirement drop every drop everything well you're gonna have to just basically say anybody you're gonna have an army of morbidly obese heavily medicated disney adults and that's just what we've got that's what we've built in this country that's our front line just 48 year olds dosed with prozac dressed like toddlers with mickey mouse backpacks running as the iranians mow us down like i mean one by one just 300 pounders going down dressed in disney onesies yeah they say there's a new iranian disneyland to get him everyone over there.

32:11That's right. Oh, boy. Okay, so that draft might not be a bad idea now that I hear it. Yeah. It sounds interesting. Okay. How about the movie industry? Is it coming back? I got in trouble because I said, I wasn't really mad at Gavin Newsom and Cameron. I was just saying, could we make it a slightly more of a priority? I don't know what we're spending the money on that's flowing in because it's a lot flowing in. but it goes out so quickly i want to sort of reserve a little piece of the pie to like focus like let's try to get this back that's all yeah it's um they don't you know the thing about gavin newsom and karen best they they seem to think everything's kind of going well so it's very hard that's the issue it's very when someone thinks things are going well it's very hard to make them understand like la lost a million people in the last year it's the biggest population decline of any metropolitan area of comparable size you know i mean in the in the entire country and there are very few there's like none la lost more people than anything else because jobs aren't here and um they're shooting everything everywhere else they're shooting it so it was cool that you shot bus boys in la yeah so it can be done it didn't seem to change the landscape enough to move out yeah but it was nice to do it there i mean we said let's just do it here that's a tiny like hey at least for awareness but everyone says to me why don't you just move out of la and i'm like well moving is hard and i don't know if i'm going to find a yard house nearby or a church like when i go to another like you would when i saw you in austin originally you you were one of the first people maybe i moved for about seven months yeah yeah and then you broke the news to Adam, you get the backstage that you didn't love it anymore.

34:06And you were, yeah, well, I like, listen, there's a lot of things I like about Austin. I like going out to dinner and getting sick. Um, you know what I mean? Like, I don't need to eat food that was got that day. You know, I'm not one of those guys. I like how brown it is. I like how you, you know, the air feels like you're smoking all the time. Uh, it's a great city and I like it. It's three or four blocks. It's easy. You can navigate it. I like it. I like that everyone's a communist, but also weirdly Hitler like that. They've accomplished an interesting political thing. You're like, you're a racist Nazi communist.

34:42It's amazing. So it is heaven on earth. But I found myself drawn back to California, unfortunately, probably till the end. And that's just what it is. Well, I do like. Yeah.

34:53Dana Carvey:Did you miss the 14.2 state tax in a part of you is like, I like writing that check. Well, here's the hard part. Here's a good thing about Texas. You get to Austin and you do have your accountant says to you at the end of the year, you have a lot more money. So then you go, wow. So you look at all this money and you call your friends and I got a lot of money. So you go down to Miss Vicky's house of brisket. And I mean, you start buying meat by the pound and then you eat it. And then in your car, you begin to sweat and feel ill and you pull over and then you go to sleep um and you go money well spent well you get enough money where you go i can move back to california that's right that's right as soon as i had those savings i said i got to get out of here and god bless everyone obviously austin's a great city and i'm well everything i've got about it you got the mothership well the mothership's great and yeah i can see why comics want to go there and it's good because a lot of cities people say you should move i go well aside from maybe austin or new york there's not a lot of places to have a lot of companies.

35:55Well, I like it because it's safe, you know, and I know people might say, you know, 14 people were shot last week on that one block, but I'll tell you this, I feel safe there. Even though I hear gunshots a lot, I still feel safe knowing that the people that are shooting me, someone may shoot them. That feels good to me. That is, it is good. It's just the way I feel. Yeah. So where do you live now? Yeah. I live in Dubai right now. Right now and from Dubai. Right now I'm broadcasting from Dubai and I'm incorporated. My business is in Dubai and Qatar. My bank account is in Qatar. I'm a Qatari national at the moment.

36:42And I'm just kind of hopping around the Gulf states to see which one feels the best.

36:46Dana Carvey:Do the drones coming in, you know, with a small, maybe 115-pound bomb, do they bother you? They don't bother me. I like to look at them on my walk. And it's just a natural progression of the way things are, you know? Right. You're going to see a drone in the sky. You can't freak out. When drones aren't a big story anymore, it's just like, how crazy is the world when the drone? They're like, I saw a huge UFO mothership yesterday. They're like, yeah, I know. And also the AI kind of blurs it. It's just trying to get aliens going like every like three weeks. The government comes out and they tell people to go, by the way, there's aliens.

37:19And then some like mother is like, hey, why is chicken? Ninety six dollars. Yeah. My children are starving and they go, what about alien life? She goes out and feed my family. Aliens don't eat. We have to eat down here. Right. Eat and gas and all the problems. Yeah.

37:33Dana Carvey:What what is the war of attrition when they shoot a ten thousand dollar drone at us and we shoot it down with a three million dollar missile? This seems like a weird, like maybe we should change that tactic. Unless you're making those missiles because that seems like a good gig. That's good biz. The defense industry is up 40 % in the stock market. They're doing good. You got to hand it to them, you know, consistency, quality. There always has to be a war because Ukraine was the hot war. And then it's sort of still going on and it just doesn't have enough heat. You know what it is? Ukraine was boring.

38:12You're kind of like, oh, it's still there. But what is it really? And it's doesn't you know, you're not it's not getting a season three. It is not. I ran is hot. It's new. It's young. It's sexy. It's it's you know, it's snackable content. It's snackable. You can enjoy little bits and, you know, check in and check out. It plays very well on social. It's very brand aligned. I mean, it's important. right now. It's protestable. Protestable. It has a live component, which is these protests. A live component. It's huge. It's very easy with merch. It's smart. It's sharp. It's young. It's now. It's hip.

38:57We need it. We need it. We can say we just need it. It's fresh. We're all talking about the draft. It's just really important for us to do these things. Yeah. There's a lot of protests, and I sort of have to look closely at the screen and go, what is this one? Because it can change weekly, but people are mad. Yeah. The Iran war to me is just about aligning with brands that support our core values, which are Palantir, Raytheon, General Dynamics, you know, Netanyahu, people that are just, they support our core values and we're all rowing in the same direction. As my agent would say, let's row in the same direction on this.

39:42She says it once a week. Really? Yeah. She goes, let's row in the same direction on this. Mine says, you know, the landscape has changed. But what we're going to do here is I talk to Netflix before we get on the Zoom call. I set the table. So we're all set. I set the table.

40:00Dana Carvey:And then you come in. Yeah. Yeah. And my manager is great because I'll talk to him and I'll call him i go hey how are you and he goes well i'm looking at a horse farm right now and i said oh that's good that's good he goes how's he going for you yeah he's going good right yeah god bless you know we we wish all of them well i get i get from my agent a lot it's rough out there for everybody i don't know is that a positive thing to say to a client it's a great thing to say no he he says dana i heard something you did where's your new address to bill you for the thing we are unaware of. Could I mention a Mickey Rooney insert that's a topical to this?

40:43Dana Carvey:Mickey Rooney, the crazy guy that I did a sitcom with, he was number one star in the world, then went broke. He called up his manager and said, Mickey Rooney, I'm broke. And the manager said, how can you be broke? I have a yacht named after you. Right. Quote, unquote. Yeah. Some things never change. The money's in agenting and managing. out that's where it is still 10 for each still yes and then realtors are getting kicked out of them for five percent business manager you get five they give you you know five percent to them depending on lawyer then the lawyer's there you know it's hard to hard to be rich in this biz tim are you kind of business savvy in a sense i mean would do people come up to you for advice like what to do, where to put their money at all?

41:35Dana, interesting point. No one's ever come to me for advice on any issue in my life, but I've only been on earth 41 years. Interesting point. No one's ever come to me and said exactly what is your advice on said subject. What do you think?

41:50Dana Carvey:You've given a lot of really good takes on the world of global politics. Sure, but no one really comes to the Irish for financial wisdom. Were you doing mortgages? what did you do before i met you i was uh doing subprime loans which was we were giving homes to people that could not afford them oh yeah which is actually nice and great right and i gave one to myself and i couldn't afford that and i lost my house let's look at a clip so you're all cash you're all cash well no i'm financed now i believe in debt i believe debt is what makes you free i I believe you should finance everything you can.

42:32I think paying for things is stupid. I think you should be in an amount of debt that scares you out of bed every morning to work. You should be in a frightening amount of debt. I think children should have credit cards, eight, nine years old. I think the debtor economy is the only thing that binds us together as Americans, and you should have so much debt that it makes you physically sick.

42:58Dana Carvey:a nursery school kid should have an iphone yes right and an amex car 100 percent otherwise what are we doing what are we doing here if you're not in a paralyzing amount of debt what is going to get you up every day to go sit in that geico office and you know right talk to people that just got rear-ended all i all life is in the end of the day is hey you want to go over there for a while yeah okay after that you want to go there yeah where'd you go i went over there and then i'm coming back here that's it that's right and then you posted it yeah you know either there for a second little joe biden came out that's right that's right i'm not getting around come on he's still alive how great is that are you sure alive well it seems to be no he seems to be doing pretty well.

43:50Dana Carvey:I saw him at the Yard House. Yeah. Was he having an onion ring tower? I love that you like Yard House. I love that I plugged it twice. You plugged the Yard House now twice. Yard House is really one of the most American places you can go. The menu makes no sense. There's no theme to the menu. It'll be like, would you like garlic noodles, the onion ring tower, or spicy tuna? And you go, where are we? Do you have pad thai? They're like, yep. It'll be in two minutes. And how about a pizza? You know, what is the theme here other than giving up? When Lumen Field wants to power game day experiences for 69 ,000 fans, who makes sure every snap and tap lead the home crowd cheering?

44:36Lumen.

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45:44But she said to me near the end of her life, I mean, just facts. She said to me near the end of her life, McDonald's is healthy. It was one of the last things she said. It was one of the last pieces of wisdom my mother said before she died. And she said to me, she goes, McDonald's is actually healthy. And they're the sponsor of the Olympics. She said that to me. They did sponsor the Olympics. Well, so that is something that I think people in my mother and Trump's generation believe that McDonald's is healthy. And I think if you believe something, it's kind of true. This is what Trump has kind of exposed.

46:22Dana Carvey:No, I think I talked to this mind body doctor, you know, and he's like, if you're really sad having that beer, it's going to hurt you. Or if you're really sad having McDonald's. So there is some theory that if you're happy what you're consuming, it's actually good for you. You have to not buy into Trump doesn't seem to buy into the idea that McDonald's is bad for you. He and exercise is good for you. Like he doesn't like to move too much because he only has so many movements. He's on his own path, but it's worked. It's worked. He says you have only so many heartbeats. So why waste them? Why go, you know, all that stuff.

47:05Dana Carvey:So anyway. Yeah. I mean, it's what he believes and what he believes has become real for him. Yeah. And it just endorphinizes his body in a way. You know, it's funny to go from Biden, who was sort of barely moving. And then you get Trump, who's the exact opposite. Two older people. One was very stiff and one was out. One's not out there enough. I thought he wasn't giving enough to the press and enough. conferences and then there's trump who's out too much almost he's on the plane talking he's in the helicopter he's yelling his lines he loves it i mean he it's not a chore for him i don't i think he gets on that podium and he takes question i the energy that he puts out still is kind of unexplainable the amount of it i don't know he likes he's having fun that's so much of life is are you having fun and i think he's having fun yeah and so then you you don't drain energy you're just yeah i also don't think he's kept up at night by decisions i think he goes we're doing this and then we're going to do that i don't think he's agonizing over the decisions i think right we're doing this this seems like a good idea and then if it's not we'll do something else right right everyone else gets worried but he's like no this is a here's the plan he loves his ballroom i think at a certain age you got to have a thing you love he loves his ballroom yeah they're building a nice ballroom the military is building an underground bunker under it which is nice for when there are and this is per trump when there were drone attacks at the ballroom which he imagines will be uh his gas during events go into the bunker of course during an event he'll say ladies and gentlemen please proceed we have ushers that will usher you into the safe zone and they'll take all these palm beach people down to the bunker while the white house is being droned by some foreign power.

48:58And then, um, and then they go, well, the drone threat has been eliminated and everyone will clap and then they'll go right back up and grab the band is back on stage back on. So I think he's preparing us for our next stage, but we'll get peptide infusions

49:13Dana Carvey:on the way back up. Cause that is the, you know, shot up with everything you want. You're going to have stem cells in the neck and, and that's what it's going to be. And then outside, it's just going to be plumes of black smoke and people screaming but in the ballroom it's going to be martinis and like a jazz band and i think that's cool totally i mean actually they do send trump a montage of they call it things blowing up no joke and it's like 10 minutes of just some of a video of our airstrikes yeah he likes it it feels it's fun for him it's like during the iraq war my grandparents would watch the night vision you know back then you didn't have the technology but you had the green night vision and you see the missiles fly into things and they would sit there in their long island house and they would eat meatloaf and they would nod at the tv and they would look at each other and go this is pretty damn cool yeah that was the first televised war live in real time that's right that was that golf war with breaking news and all that and then the The OGA trial was just like, that was must-see TV.

50:22Dana Carvey:That was the first time I'd ever actually watch cable news that much. That's the show me and my dad would watch the Dana Carvey show. That was in what, 1997 or eight? Yeah, I don't know. Every episode of that. There was an episode of that where you guys parodied the Republican primary. I don't know if you remember this. Yes. You parodied the Republican primary. And I think you were making fun. I think it was like Phil Graham and Steve and all these guys. And one of the bits was that, it goes back a long time, but one of the bits was that Phil Graham or one of these guys had lost the election in their own house.

50:58Like their family had voted and he had lost the election in his own house and he wouldn't accept it. He wanted to recount. But I remember that, watching that every episode with my dad and loving it. He doesn't speak to me anymore because I called his wife a name on Pierce Morgan. but I do remember the good times of watching the Dana Carvey show in the nineties. It was one of the best shows. So thank you for that. Well, thank you. Thank you.

51:24Dana Carvey:Thank you for saying that. That's very high praise from you. Very high praise. Yeah. Well, Tim, we won't keep you forever, but anything left for this gentleman, Dana? This is one of my favorite podcasts. Yeah. Like I, I'm really in awe of how you can riff and how you stack these word packages. It's a skill set, your reputation. It's not fake news. It's like live to really be here with you doing that. And we've had dinner a couple of times, but it's pretty impressive. I just got to say. Well, I love both you guys. It's a literal honor to be here. I hope people go see Busboys. Go get the ticket.

52:05We'll have a link. There'll be a link at some point. Tim on the road will be on the road and also on Netflix special is always funny. His own podcast. Yeah. You're wondering about your podcast. That's him. You want to see him board. If yours on Saturday. Yeah. His podcast is this shit. Always. I look at the clips. Yeah. Well,

52:23Dana Carvey:this podcast is like, okay, Rogan, I got a Tim. Yeah. You don't go very far down. You see Tim. It's, it's wild. We, we appreciate everybody who's out there listening and you guys having me on is amazing. And, uh, go see the movie. It's going to be a lot of fun. All right. Have a good time. Have a good day.

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Dana and David are joined by the always unfiltered and outrageously funny Tim Dillon. They revisit Tim’s time working with David on Lights Out, dive into his experiences on Euphoria, Joker 2, and the upcoming Bus Boys before they get into his thoughts on Meghan Markle. From there, things take a turn—covering everything from the draft and politics to financial advice you definitely shouldn’t follow. Tim also reflects on how The Dana Carvey Show influenced his comedy, and makes the case that McDonald's might keep you alive into your hundreds.

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