Tim Meadows RETURNS: Sandler Text Chains & Farley Memories

10:12Dana Carvey:them and you had you get to see every night the process everything how they nail it and you go

10:16David Spade:yes exactly and i hadn't done something like that since second city where but we wrote that stuff But this was like we were doing I'm trying to find the playbill from it Now I'm just looking at my room I usually have my Broadway stuff right in front of it

10:31Dana Carvey:You know behind you looks like Lauren's office With the lineup for the show The show is five hours long

10:39Tim Meadows:We're going to present 6 ,000 sketches It's all a matter of numbers That's our new tactic

10:48Dana Carvey:I don't think I've seen many plays Timmy but uh i think chris rock was saying that uh he goes it's it's hard i go could you picture so you memorize the whole script i don't know because i don't do that on sitcoms and stuff even movies it's a scene a day and even that's hard for me and so you memorize something he goes but you get it down by blocking and by running it and then it just starts coming to you and

11:12David Spade:he goes some nights then it just gets boring yeah yeah you gotta keep it alive yeah and that's where like going you know from doing stand-up whatever it's like you learn how you know you you figure you know oh i got this has got to be fresh i got to make this yeah like it's just happening and we're all in this moment right now um but yeah just being around so long now it's so i really do and i love watching other people work now like before i used to be more competitive of like i want to be as good as that person or i want to like hold my share of the thing or you know the but now when I approach it, when I'm working with people, I just like, I really enjoy watching other actors now, which is kind of weird.

11:56David Spade:Cause I, I, I know there's a, there's been a change.

12:00Dana Carvey:It's some growing up. Yeah, for sure. I, I,

12:02David Spade:I wouldn't be jealous and fucking angry. Like, why is that fucker so good?

12:06Dana Carvey:Well, we came out of a tough situation where everyone around us is good at SNL. We got fucking Dana over there and we got Mike and Chris and everybody. And so you're there. Conan's funny and he's a writer. and i have one everywhere you turn odenkirk is a writer and he's funnier than me i'm like god damn and uh lauren's kind of funny when he talks he just he doesn't talk much when he does you go he's fun yeah yeah so then you get out and you get places where you go oh i'm suddenly realizing both someone's good or someone is bringing nothing yeah yeah yeah i've seen people like cold reads where they go you're like oh man because you can tell at a table read even though it's just kind of thrown together you can spot some game yeah but yeah it is weird super weird

12:55David Spade:to see somebody that you you know thought was good but actually they they have to work at it

13:02Dana Carvey:they have their own method and then they get good they get good by the time you shoot yeah yes yeah like that's respectable you're on uh is dmv which is your show on cbs is dmv that's shot it's not a

13:16David Spade:sitcom it's a multi-game it is a sitcom what are you talking is it a sitcom no yes a single cam

13:23Dana Carvey:single cam single cam sitcom i'm from the old school of what four camps and where was this school well cbs radford which has gone bankrupt tim what's happening cbs radford dana is where we shot just shoot me and did you know that tim tim is frozen or maybe we're frozen tim's choking dana it's time for a little five-hour energy action um yes you know i like correct i dabble in five-hour energy to do a little wakey wakey uh i don't mind a little energy in the day and i uh you don't want sugar yeah and uh this is a little sippy sip fits right in your sock if you need it to everyone's seeing them they're this big yeah absolutely that's what's great about them confetti craze is one of their new flavors yeah it tastes like birthday cake i mean that's the thing that

14:30Tim Meadows:they're doing now is all kinds of flavors uh with five five hour energy so you can pick your favorite vanilla-y and buttery flavors. It doesn't need to be your birthday.

14:42Dana Carvey:Because Dana, when we're out, you're always telling the restaurant it's your birthday to get something free.

14:48Tim Meadows:Right. Yeah, and it's my anniversary again. Oh, yeah.

14:52Dana Carvey:You were milking that one last week. You're like, it's that again this week. Yeah. But 17 flavors.

14:59Tim Meadows:When you're out, you always take off your sweater and then you go, it's kind of cold in here. Can I get a down vest?

15:04Dana Carvey:I go, it's kind of cold. can i get a free meal i'm freezing yeah i mean it's sort of weird you're you're kind of you have some picadillos yeah but confetti craze is great uh it's a little buttery it's a little vanilla

15:18Tim Meadows:it's like you know like birthday cake yeah and now basically they're giving you caffeine now five hour energy shots and get this sounds like a lot to me 17 flavors 17.

15:33Dana Carvey:it's not too many it's a lot but at least it gives a big selection and you don't get a sugar crash you just get a little

15:48Dana Carvey:so I'm excited they're on you can get these at you know obviously fivehourenergy.com you can go to Amazon they're stocking up I'm stocking up I have to load up because I kind of buzz through them pretty quickly cake on the brain confetti craze it's back uh you can go

16:08Tim Meadows:five energy.com amazon the funfetti flavor is back on five hour energy.com or amazon crack open confetti craze five hour energy shot today if you're like this and you gotta be like this it's five hour energy yeah take that to the bank make it you know david people keep asking about my 2026 resolution yes they do i've been one of them you i know what you're trying to say the people

16:38Dana Carvey:keep asking about your 2026 resolutions and i've got the usual ones uh read more or read it all hit the gym at the gym learn how to crochet get the knitting needles out of the yeah but this year the goal at the very top of my list is simple get comfy i've learned that from abby yeah and that's exactly where bombas comes in they're bringing next level comfort to uh my everyday essentials take the new bombas sports socks they're designed with sport specific comfort for everything from running hiking golf that's what i do skiing and i know you want to get back

17:18Tim Meadows:into running they got i would really want to get back into running honestly for sure

17:23Dana Carvey:i do a lot of hiking yeah they're cushioned right where you need it most sweat wicking that's good

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18:40Tim Meadows:Tim where were we should we talk about DMV and then we can go back to reminiscing oh that's what I was asking you

18:47Dana Carvey:DMV is your show you were saying it's a sitcom but it's single camera which is confusing to me because I haven't done one oh

18:56Tim Meadows:it's like a film kind of

18:59Dana Carvey:yeah it's shot like a movie though right Yeah, it shot like a movie.

19:03David Spade:And I feel like I'm talking to my grandma right now. Yeah, this is how it works, Grandma. So what happens? He's never heard of single camera half hour. And then you appear on my TV. Yes, and then we shoot it to your house.

19:15Tim Meadows:In the airwaves? And when you watch it and something seems kind of different, you find yourself laughing.

19:22Dana Carvey:Right.

19:22Tim Meadows:You know, David?

19:24David Spade:But no, it's a single camera. Right. Tell us about it. Well, we shoot it in Montreal. It's about these people that work at the DMV. And it's created by Dana Klein. And it's based on like a short story about some employees who are super unhappy working at the DMV. That could be every employee.

19:50Tim Meadows:I've had horrible times at the DMV. It's a great idea for a show.

19:55David Spade:Yeah. No, it is. it's like uh i had to go to dmv recently too and like because i had to renew my license and um and uh to my plates because i had a new car um but they uh the people in the dmv watched the show and they knew oh they were like she when this woman one woman goes we're not that bad are we and i was like no you know we're just exaggerating it you know make the comedic effect yeah we make you all look horrible just for our own enjoyment it's so true though what is your character in it my character is his name is greg and uh he's a very unhappy uh former teacher who works at the dmv and it's just he's a driving instructor and uh this is another role where i'm the oldest guy on the show oh really yeah and so like there's old jokes they make jokes about me being dead and sleeping at work and uh yeah it's and i'm just like wait i i do yoga every day i'm very healthy i feel like yeah younger than i look i think i don't know you look pretty young yeah

21:10Tim Meadows:you look good i think you look young if you if you don't want to go snowy on the chin then you You know, I'm carding you. But if you're going to go snow downtown, I can't help you there, bro.

21:20Dana Carvey:What does that mean? You can help him.

21:22Tim Meadows:I think scrum fits white. What's snowy downtown mean?

21:28Dana Carvey:Well, I don't know about that part.

21:30Tim Meadows:That was not intended for this podcast. Yeah, that was a little confusing. Yeah, I don't know. That got a little... I'm still salt and pepper everywhere, basically.

21:40Dana Carvey:Okay, ads everywhere.

21:42Tim Meadows:Welcome to TMI, the show that tells you things you kind of don't want to know. How much salt and how much pepper. We'll be right back.

21:52Dana Carvey:My fucking salt has taken over the pepper. That's the problem. It's a fucking coup. Also, DMV is really three letters everyone knows. That's good for a show. Like, immediately, I know what it is. Immediately, I know it's kind of a funny area because there should have been a show at this point about it. because everyone talks about it and everyone complains about it. And so you're all set up. Yeah.

22:18David Spade:And it is also, it's based in North Hollywood. So that's our, that's our, you know, like our grounds and stuff, you know?

22:27Dana Carvey:Yeah. Not where you work from.

22:30Tim Meadows:If they're treating you like the senior citizen and stuff, I mean, are they, are they allowing Tim Meadows to fully inform what you're doing on the show? like hey guys maybe I should say this or I'm going to do this you can't question him he's Tim Meadows fuck he knew Chris Farley shut up

22:51David Spade:actually it's a combination yeah I mean it's also a job I have to say they've been very they listen to what I think about the you know the writing and my character I know it's not always the case exactly Exactly. It's not. And I go into jobs sort of knowing that like, oh, I'm not, they just want me to learn my lines and do the, you know, find a character.

23:19Dana Carvey:Not because it's you, just because in general, if people at home don't know, it's kind of you're hired and you're a hired hand. And then if by chance they let you ad lib or say, let's do another one and, you know, do whatever you want, that's a gift. So they don't have to do that. Yeah.

23:35David Spade:And when they ever tell me, do whatever you want, I do that take just in gibberish.

23:40Dana Carvey:I just do it exactly the same, and they go, oh, that was fun. Okay. Just do it louder.

23:47Tim Meadows:Do you have a brand in a way, Tim? I mean, do you feel that, oh, let's get Tim Meadows for this, you know, either playing off-kilter characters or a little bit angry or just sort of asymmetrical, like the Peacemaker with brain blindness, which has a cult following that character. does it it kind of blew up um so weird yeah um but yeah i mean i kind of feel like it sort of goes

24:18David Spade:back and forth between like people casting me like james gunn casting me because he said he couldn't find the actor to do that part and then he said like he wanted me but he didn't know if he could get me or whatever but um and that character was like is written like it's a it's an unlikable guy that they wanted a likable actor to play you know and so i've had that before where it's like this is unlikable but we think you can do it um like i played a i played a cannibal child killing cannibal on brooklyn 99 and what's unlikable about that yeah go ahead It's a horrible profession. But they, you know, Sandberg, when they called me to do that, he was like, yeah, we need somebody that's really likable.

25:09David Spade:And we just thought like, you know, everybody likes you. And so it'll be really, people won't hate the character, you know.

25:17Dana Carvey:They'll give you a gimme on that. Give you a mulligan on the cannibalizing children. He's fun at parties.

25:27David Spade:that's a rule you only want to do once though yeah yeah yeah for sure then you get typecast

25:31Dana Carvey:that's funny because you know the sitcom like i think you call it a sitcom but going back to grandma here uh i would i was thinking about doing a sitcom or thinking about ideas for them and i think god are they doing regular for camera have you even heard of that

25:48David Spade:are they not doing those have you not heard that i haven't done one of those i swear in probably 15 years jesus okay we'll say five 20 years okay we'll say three years okay so uh no but i haven't like everyone i've done this and i think even when i i've done like i did the bill ingvall show which was tbs and we did that for like two or three years and that was done in front of a live audience i i personally don't like doing i hate those shows not you know not the live audience is hard yes where you work all week learning in the show and then you do it for the audience on friday or whatever and i just found it not it never felt satisfying like comedically or creatively i I don't know.

26:44Dana Carvey:Well, the problem is some of the youth prisoners in the audience, if they don't, that are bussed in, if they don't laugh, they change the whole script for them. And you're like, we all like this all week. Let's play for the people at home. That is the hard part. Now you get a hot crowd. It's fun. It's something different. It's exciting. I think How I Met Your Mother was a hybrid. So they'd have a crowd on a few days, and then they'd shoot single camera on a few days. so I guess sitcom really means situation comedy so your DMV can be that because that's what that is but I think it's just probably all single camera now can I make an observation about

27:24Tim Meadows:I think that you're able to like in a real situation you can play deadpan you can say the craziest do the craziest shit and you don't push it at all and I think that people see you and they're already kind of laughing even if it's sort of serious Yeah, they know something funny will come out. You never signal I'm being funny now. It's very, very cool. Well, thank you, Dana.

27:47Dana Carvey:It's one of your skill sets. Well, Mean Girls is kind of like that. You're just trying to keep the peace or something. It's just funny. The situations, you get overwhelmed and shit.

27:54David Spade:Yeah. Mean Girls, that's like one of the first times I went into an acting role thinking like, you know, okay, I'm going to think about this character and I'm going to like. And I just thought that after I read the script, I thought this guy is either going, this is going to be his last year working as a principal or he's going to commit suicide and so that's what i played like the whole time i was like this guy hates being here but tina's character was sort of like his bright light because he was in love with her but he didn't know how to say it or whatever yeah but yeah that character was like tina another hilarious

28:31Dana Carvey:one to be in there with so there was a mean girls sequel and then a musical and then a coloring

28:42Dana Carvey:book monetization shit oh by the way i get nothing from the coloring book by the way heather i was just saying that the uh when you were on the uh not grown-ups tour whatever it was called that that tour sandler's tour where we were here on the text chain uh-huh because she's on it too and she's like remember tim was couldn't get off the text chain i thought that was

29:07David Spade:it would be two in the morning and i'd be gonna be like we're going for steaks like waking up like what is this you guys being like you know oh the phone's bringing it's like

29:17Dana Carvey:yeah we're boisey and tim's trying to sleep and it's like who wants scallop potatoes everyone put in your order it's like ding ding ding yes yeah yeah yeah and he's like how the fuck do i get off this texting we're like is this tim and then i i took myself off and then somebody put me back on yeah yeah yeah it's so funny because there's about 20 people on it and you're like it's all day it's going off like where's my bags it's just insanity and then and if you you can know because dana we jump on for a few days and jump off and you're realizing i don't know how to get off this thing and it's just blowing my battery up and and also it's also very funny too

30:00David Spade:and you sort of don't i sort of don't want it to end even though you know everybody's affected their lives uh we had another good one going after sandler's uh that thing in dc oh yeah yeah yeah the uh mark twain mark twain awards and that one had like stiller and conan oh yeah and that was really fun too and then at a certain point it was like okay we gotta all move on with our lives or

30:24Dana Carvey:ever dude every time swartzen put something on i hit a thumbs down immediately it's so fucking humiliating i'm looking for a ha-ha's on that thing yeah same i'm thirsty man i want some

30:37Tim Meadows:fucking is this a thing you guys ever done it you do ha-ha no matter what the person is saying even if it's serious information just keep going ha-ha-ha i mean what is the shtick of group texting things to because it is kind of becomes a little competitive doesn't it in a weird way horrible and then you're like exhausted from trying to keep up i mean yeah it gets mean too but

31:01David Spade:it does it gets mean but like in a good-hearted way like things you wouldn't say to somebody's face you sort of put it in the text and it's funny yeah and also sandler just insults everybody's

31:14Dana Carvey:which is funny which is fine yeah sometimes they'll say tough crowd for you guys

31:24Dana Carvey:no if dana if mine sit there and get stale i i pop a ha ha on it and then no one really knows where it came from they're like oh i guess that was funny and then i'm like that was me i'm trying

31:35Tim Meadows:to get it going you press send and then you see someone doing your idea better than you just wrote oh yeah you're like oh shit and you can't take it back and then you're sitting out there like I don't know. It's very stressful. That's the, that's your next show. Text chain after DMV seven year run, Tim Meadows in text chain.

31:54Dana Carvey:It could be called group chat or text chain. And it's like a horror movie, but remember you had COVID and they called it frovid. You called it frovid cause you were at an Afro on. You sent a picture of an Afro. I got frovid.

32:11David Spade:my hair got so long it's been ridiculous um i remember norm god rest his soul uh on that text chain one time he goes uh hey guys i'm doing my book and i need somebody to i need you guys to um if you'd be willing to write a blurb for my book and then sandler goes yeah i'll do it and then he goes thanks i don't need anybody else's out of 20 people yeah he just

32:41Dana Carvey:wanted adam yeah it's hysterical i got adam that's hey i'm good yeah that's all right that's all right i like by the way in in to change gears when he does the farley song he says last time he saw him was it timmy met his wedding is that what he says wedding party yeah is that the last time you saw

33:04David Spade:chris too no the last time i saw him i think was when he hosted oh you were there i was there yeah but i kind of felt like i saw him again in chicago um because hosting was toward the end very close yeah yeah it was very close um but yeah i think that was the last time i sort of saw him but i know we talked after that though for sure we had like a deep one you know i was almost going

33:33Dana Carvey:to go off that hosting but i thought it was getting to the point where it was sort of spinning out a bit and i think you probably knew when you were there like oh did you even talk to him a lot it's just like he got it got his own worlds that sort of yeah yeah i mean you know uh you could

33:50David Spade:when he was out there there was just that look in his eyes and it was just this wildness to him kind of like yeah and also kind of like asking you to forgive him too at the same time you know he wanted your pity but he also knew because he knew you know i will yeah he just knew i was mad at him that week and i was not i wasn't happy with him and then we just tried to have fun on the show you know because he does what he would like to do which is try to make you laugh on camera sure um so we ended up having fun but it wasn't you know it wasn't the kind of fun that like it wasn't lasting because it was just in hindsight really sad it was worrying yes

34:38Dana Carvey:so i saw when i would see old sketches from that one like he's on a uh worst idea ever put him on

34:47David Spade:a spin cycle or something yeah yeah it was matt foley i think oh yeah try to yell those lines

34:54Dana Carvey:while he's trying to just so too much energy too much yeah it was crazy and there was another scene

35:02David Spade:that we did and it was like almost like the big baby um businessman that he but he was a big he was a big baby he was like you know him but he was in a diaper and whatever and it was like a um

35:15Dana Carvey:you know like a maury povic show or whatever and um i was the doctor who would who was describing

35:23David Spade:his problems and stuff and so he was all over me on that sketch and just like you know oh yeah pushing me and stuff especially on air i'm sure he's trying to like cover your mouth not let you

35:34Dana Carvey:talk yeah not let you do your lines yeah yeah yeah yeah that was the fun part but when i saw him you could just see because you know him so well like you see in one second when he comes out you're like oh no oh no yeah like and what's he gonna do and the problem is everyone else hypes it up like if you're not if to the casual person that hangs out like even when he was in rehab like if we're walking down columbus and you walk by an outdoor place like hey guys come have a drink with us and he's like all right and he climbs over the fence i like no no no because even if he's in

36:10David Spade:rehab they want to be the ones to drink with them yeah i remember at being at dinner and i think it It was the weekend that I got married. It was me and Sandler at the steakhouse with Farley. And they kept sending drinks over. And at one point, we told the waiter, don't bring any more alcohol. If somebody orders a drink for them, just bring a ginger ale or Coke or something and just lightly tap it with some alcohol and give it to them or just give it to us. But the waiter goes, I can't. People keep making me bring it. know and so that was the problem like but the thing is that people didn't have to deal with him you know what i mean yeah you didn't have to you didn't have to be with him when he was wasted after that it's you and adam yeah yes trying to get him to like calm down or to not get him to his apartment yes yeah yeah but yeah it was a hard it was a hard part and just yeah And during that point, it was almost like, I don't know what to do.

37:15David Spade:You know, I threatened to like not be friends and lose my communication with them. But that didn't, you know.

37:22Dana Carvey:Yeah, that's the part people don't understand when they think, oh, would you guys argue at times? I'm like, well, if you don't know the real situation, you don't know the levels of it goes in so many waves of like you care about someone so much that you you do fight because you run out of weapons to say, will you lose me will you help if you know that we're going to be gone you know but nothing really works yeah yeah and so you see him on the show you go oh my god i can see it i see it

37:52David Spade:yeah but uh no good i do i miss him you know of course you know you know what it is i was in

38:00Dana Carvey:chicago and uh doing a gig two weeks ago and my hotel was right across me at hancock and i was i was like oh my god is that where it is right there because i don't go to chicago that much you guys are all from there but i was like oh it's such a weird vibe to just see it and i walk by it and i'm like ah it's called the hancock building hancock building yeah um anyway anyway

38:24Tim Meadows:keep going but i mean on a positive note it's yes like i was talking to someone the other day about just you know where is the next chris farley and the alchemy of chris farley as you know the likeability all of it you know the physicality and everything just boy really hard and i think we interviewed someone who's going to try to play chris farley in a movie or is there a chris paul hauser yeah and that's a that's a tall order for anybody because he's kind of i mean we have data now it's been a while and he's yeah he was and is yeah where's the next clarity at this point never seen a force like that and you see that the one i mean the foley guy i mean it's just it's a tornado i don't even know what it is it's so well it's so fantastic what he's doing when we did when we did matt foley at second city far when farley left to go to snl we still had the

39:23David Spade:sketch in our running order and like other actors who filled in for farley tried to do it and could not do it they could not do it uh and i saw you know uh there's a guy named mitch rouse and ian gomez this other actor who's yeah pretty well but ian tried everything he came in as like a guy in a fucking uh bow tie in a suit and he did i wrote a speech and it's called go for it and he tried to do Farley and nobody could do that character. And we just took it out of the show, even though it killed every night when Farley was doing it. Yeah. It was hard.

40:03Dana Carvey:You wonder like, that's the part that's the funniest. I mean, I'm in one of those sketches or I'm in a couple. I'm just watching him like the audience. So there's not much going on. And then you set up something. Is that Bill Shakespeare? I can't see too good.

40:18Tim Meadows:If he just kept pulling up his pants and adjusting them, just that. That's enough. I mean, he gets down like he's a lineman or something doing a Super Bowl. And there's so many moves, subtle moves within his broadness. There's a lot of little tricky things.

40:35Dana Carvey:I like when Phil Hartman kept getting written different ways to bring him out. And he's very casual. We hired a motivational speaker. He's down in the basement eating coffee beans for the last 40 minutes. you had to explain some reason why he shot out of a fucking cannon i'm just hearing phil's voice

40:53Tim Meadows:voice right now because phil was also so great at playing the regular straight guy with a little bit of satire you know uh i also i was telling odin kirk uh not too long ago that i had seen

41:08David Spade:that sketch we did it in snl i mean a second city for a year saw it on in in um you know on saturday live and i the thing that i always i made me laugh but i always missed with the he had the speech was entitled go for it and that just made me laugh and he actually had a speech and it was had a title go for it i told kirk i was like i seen i've seen it for years that it just hit me one day that that was how funny that was, you know.

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44:08Dana Carvey:you know your work with molly on dmv she was on snl right yes she was on snl because she's good i mean lauren i remember said she gives me waves of uh colors of chris when she's out there which is a fucking high high high compliment obviously so it must be good to have her on the show It is.

44:28David Spade:And I have to say that I definitely get that what Lauren is saying, definitely. And she does. The thing I love about Molly, and I don't mean to say, is that they really approach the lines differently every time we do a take. yeah um yeah they never do the same thing and i've told molly to like don't let anybody tell you don't let anybody clamp you down like always do the crazy ideas that you have because she's so different from everybody it that i just i want to see her i want to i'm a fan

45:15Dana Carvey:you know i'm a fan makes it fun to watch and you have to have something that's fun to watch because everyone can read the lines but you're like they they don't even know it till they see it so if you throw in a take on the last one and you do something interesting the smart people go well let's put that and we need something to hook people in like we want to watch molly and go oh i know something different will be happening here or you know that's what slowly it takes you know

45:41Tim Meadows:The enemy of comedy sometimes is being stale. And that's why we all tried to like hold something for the air show. And when you're doing a take and a show like that, um, and you're going to do something new, then you are discovering it in real time. And there's a magic to that.

45:58David Spade:Yes.

45:59Tim Meadows:Glad that she's getting to do that. They are getting to do that. Yes.

46:03David Spade:And I, I feel like, like you asked me like my thing, what I do. And I think that's part of what I do is like when I get a job and they say, you know, I save my improv and my ideas for when they're like comfortable with what we already got. Yeah. And then I'll do things. But I don't like I used to ask, but I don't ask anymore. I just do it now. Like, you know, I just go forget it because either they're going to take it or they're not going to take it. and well i not just to my own horn but i know i'm good and i'm also a writer so i know i kind of know what i'm doing i would say so and people people at home don't know that uh people at home

46:48Dana Carvey:that when you you're always the other pressure to be an actor is they're always in a hurry so they're always trying to make the day try so it's not really like a playground we're like we can be here all day doing whatever you want unless it's some big budget but most things you do especially like on tv are like one two three takes moving on and it's hard to say can we do one more and everyone's like what like we gotta go we got the lighting and then you go just real quick so it it's it's easier to not do it yes and so you try to get it in and then then you and just go i gotta get something in here that's somewhat different or memorable because repetition kills us comedians like same thing verbatim over and over you just start going yeah because you do

47:36David Spade:like you lose the spontaneity and it's easier like we're doing stand-up or whatever because it's your ideas and your words and stuff you know but like when it's somebody else's and you got to try to make it spontaneous like you know 10 times in a row and you don't have a lot of faith in it anyway sure yeah you know it can it can be a little bit difficult you know

48:02Tim Meadows:i mean i think stand-up really teaches rhythm and the musicality of things and sometimes you'll get something from a writer and it's it's a it's a pretty good joke but in your head you're going oh there's just two extra words here or that little right too fat you kind of intuitive from so much stand-up and getting the immediate laugh you're like oh what we need to do is just cut that you know yeah yeah it's hard to have to do it and try to save theirs without correcting

48:32Dana Carvey:i'm just hard to explain like uh i'm telling you this should be tighter just by even this extra we don't need this extra sentence they're like no no we'll just do it that and i'm like i'm scared it'll be in there then it'll look stupid because that's yeah that's it's hard we're the ones the

48:48Tim Meadows:bullets will be coming at you you know yeah we're the front line the writers can either be celebrating

48:53Dana Carvey:or got looking down like i never liked it yeah i fed him that bullshit i i always at the word is what do they call it chuffa or something oh yeah chuffa yeah yeah it's just like no this is just

49:07David Spade:chuffa this is me meandering meaningless words that you put in here because you need to get

49:13Dana Carvey:five pages in the scene yeah this will be the first thing cut yes in editing it'll be like we don't we don't need that some editor will be smart and go get forward forward don't need that don't need that that's the sentence we need that's what we need yeah get down to the bare bones but you're right it's sometimes it's just filler like the word of the day or at least i've heard it a lot

49:34Tim Meadows:recently is slop it's cut made it's made a comeback how was the show slop you know so many

49:41Dana Carvey:shows that are just slop but you know timmy i was doing my stand-up the other night sorry dana and no no like like what dana is saying is i was trying new stuff and i as i'm saying it i'm like i don't need that part this is too wordy it's just i get to it and i go some of that's funny idea it's too long and then i we type it out and then i circle it and go i don't need this whole set okay i just need this part and then you can see it so so many times of doing that helps because then you get on a set but it's other people's words and they're precious with it obviously right it's delicate to say hey some of this is kind of dog shit chuff a slop chuff a slop we got a new phrase a slop from nabisco yeah on the next podcast i think carson's

50:31Tim Meadows:only advice for stand-ups was get to the joke. Get to the joke. Because they tend to fall in love with stuff like that. I feel like we should do a little bit of promotion on your show, basically. Because that's probably why you're here. It's on CBS. You're on right now. What night? What time?

50:51David Spade:It's Mondays 8 o 'clock. I think they moved us to 8.30, 8 o 'clock. They recently gave us a whole evening where they play DMV for like two hours or something. But it's CBS. I think we're taking a break and then we're coming back after the Olympics is over.

51:11Tim Meadows:How many episodes have you done so far?

51:14David Spade:We did 20.

51:16Tim Meadows:We shot 20. That's a lot. That's a big order. Yeah, that's in modern times.

51:21Dana Carvey:CBS is probably the best spot to be.

51:25David Spade:Yeah, I'm pretty.

51:27Dana Carvey:I feel like all those shows just do well. They just feel like they know what they're doing.

51:31David Spade:Yeah. I always, I always say, I want to be on a ship. My next thing, I want to be on a show like wings. Remember that show? Yeah. It was on NBC. It was on for like maybe seven, eight years. Nobody ever watched it. It's one of those, you go,

51:46Dana Carvey:what was that about again? I think it was all from the fucking local airport. And yeah,

51:52David Spade:but it's like, I want, it was on for seven years. I have an anniversary episode this year. You know, it's just like, what? But no, those guys uh they all have had great careers if you look back that show had a great cast but i'm just like i want one of those where like yeah yeah pressure the network loves you

52:09Tim Meadows:put you on autopilot yeah yeah it's great to be on a show that's a it's that's a hit enough that you know okay season threes we're we're going with all the episodes are stacked we have our so for this one the idea is you're going to get to 22 and then or stop at 20 air them all after the Super Bowl and it'll go all the way to May. Okay.

52:32David Spade:Yeah. And then we will hopefully get picked up for another season. Yeah. But yeah, it's been busy. I don't know.

52:41Dana Carvey:You're always busy since SNL to me.

52:43Tim Meadows:You've always, you've got your, a lot of shows you've been on, a lot of movies. You've done a lot of gramps. In the mountains. No wonder this is white. How many things you've been on?

52:54David Spade:Stressed. Yeah, I don't know. Well, thanks. I was just going to say, I just have a thing about not working. I don't know about you, but yeah, at a certain point, I just go, okay, I got to, I should be doing something. Cause I'm just, yeah, of course. I like being creative and also stand up.

53:10Tim Meadows:You should tout your stand up right now. I mean, you have a website, you know, that people can go and look at all the dates you're doing and stuff like that.

53:18David Spade:Yes. Tim Meadows comedy tour. I'm, I'm, there's dates online and on Instagram and stuff.

53:24Dana Carvey:Great.

53:25David Spade:and yeah I'm going to do some shows with Colin actually in Chicago

53:28Dana Carvey:Colin Quinn? Oh good Colin Quinn DQ Colin Quinn one of the most looked up to comics so fun fun to hang out with too yeah he's great

53:41David Spade:trying new stuff too so he's going so I'm going to like make him watch my

53:45Dana Carvey:you know he'll help he's good at that yeah well thanks Timmy it's nice to see you I love you guys

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