In short
Football Clichés episode (midweek adjudication panel) mixes football news, fan trivia, and pedantic “adjudication” of phrases. Topic highlights: Connor Coady’s Wrexham welcome interview and his “I’ll give you everything every day” persona; why chips are rare in stadiums (ventilation limits); autopilot post-match interview gaffes (e.g., “we won”); the absurdity of Skybet-style phrase mashups; Jeremy Corbyn’s allotment/social-housing stance; “pigs and troughs” as a cliché; doubleheader friendlies; and a long segment on generic team names and alphabetical league-table distributions (including Bundesliga/Wikipedia edits about Jimmy Greaves’ “clinical finishing”).
Guests
no named guests; hosts are Adam Hurry, David Walker, and Nick Miller, plus referenced correspondents (e.g., Christian, Paul McGregor, Jack Copper, Andrew Richardson, Echitus 90). Key claims/examples: chips need ventilation; “clinical” was removed from Greaves’ Wikipedia; FC Dinamo City/United City FC are prefix-suffix/generic; Bundesliga site keeps last season’s order; doubleheaders need “starter/main” structure.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSoccer Predictions and Calci Introduction
0:00 to 0:35
Learn about predictions for the soccer season and how to use Calci.
“Before the season even kicks off, soccer fans are already making predictions.”
Football Clichés and Midweek Adjudication
0:59 to 1:09
Discussion on various football clichés and humorous moments from the sport.
“The Dog Stars, directed by Ridley Scott, in theaters August 28th.”
Football Clichés and Midweek Adjudication
1:12 to 2:50
Discussion on various football clichés and humorous moments from the sport.
“So you were scrolling on Marketplace, and there it was.”
Chips in Football Stadiums Discussion
3:19 to 5:56
Exploration of why chips are not commonly available at football stadiums.
“So listener Christian, he got in touch with me and he said it's actually a ventilation issue.”
Connor Cody's Welcome to Wrexham
5:56 to 7:18
Analyzing Connor Cody's arrival at Wrexham and his interview highlights.
“It's in the international break, so they won't...”
Connor Cody's Commitment and Standards
7:18 to 8:06
Discussion about Cody's commitment and impact on the team environment.
“I think the people who I spoke to about the club, I think the people within the club, I think really attracted me to the football club.”
Post-Match Interview Analysis
8:06 to 12:13
Analysis of a post-match interview highlighting classic footballer clichés.
“has done his analysis on this interview.”
Humor in Football Interviews and Clichés
12:13 to 14:01
Humorous commentary on common football interview phrases and clichés.
“here is an excerpt from a Skybet podcast advert.”
Discussion on Phrases and Sound of Footballs
14:01 to 21:45
Exploring interesting phrases and the unique sounds associated with footballs during matches.
“Now, Chelsea fans might argue and say, well, we've just won the Club World Cup.”
Discussion on Phrases and Sound of Footballs
21:48 to 23:22
Exploring interesting phrases and the unique sounds associated with footballs during matches.
“For those who don't know, VPN stands a virtual private network.”
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Discussion on Phrases and Sound of Footballs
23:28 to 25:07
Exploring interesting phrases and the unique sounds associated with footballs during matches.
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Discussion on Phrases and Sound of Footballs
26:03 to 26:18
Exploring interesting phrases and the unique sounds associated with footballs during matches.
“Episode five, In the Works, for the start of the news season.”
Exploration of Generic Football Team Names
28:01 to 29:17
The hosts discuss generic football team names from around the world, focusing on FC Dinamo City and United City FC.
“I don't want to get too cynical about the whole thing, but the idea of a Fabrizio Romano franchise out there, just like, oh, geez.”
Alphabetical Order in Ligue 1
29:18 to 31:30
The conversation shifts to the alphabetical distribution of teams in Ligue 1, noting the oddities in team name initials.
“Because Dynamo, are they usually the police teams?”
League Tables and Alphabetical Distribution
31:31 to 34:10
The hosts analyze the alphabetical distribution of teams in various European leagues, revealing interesting patterns.
“The Premier League is fairly well distributed, Nick.”
The Concept of Clinical Finishing in Football
34:11 to 36:17
The discussion revolves around the term 'clinical' in football, particularly regarding goal scoring and its use in descriptions.
“So on the Bundesliga website, they keep the same order that it finished last season.”
Humorous Misuses of Football Terminology
36:18 to 37:48
The hosts share anecdotes about the misuse of football terminology in everyday contexts, focusing on quirky CV descriptions.
“When someone says clinical finisher, what footballing scenario enters your head?”
The Curly Finger and Substitutions in Football
37:49 to 39:49
A light-hearted discussion about the gestures used in football to summon substitutes, particularly the 'curly finger'.
“Presumably that's just then as part of a sort of personal bio, rather than just being listed in terms of his...”
Travel Traditions Before Holidays
39:50 to 42:00
The hosts discuss their personal traditions and quirks regarding clothing choices before going on holiday.
“The manager is not like arcing his neck looking down the touchline giving a sub the curly finger, are they?”
Packing Strategies for Holidays
42:00 to 44:46
Learn the hosts' humorous take on packing essentials for trips.
“and this won't surprise you, but I came back from my yurt holiday with seven spare pairs of pants.”
Dramatic Preview of FX's The Bear
44:50 to 45:20
Catch a glimpse of the final season of FX's The Bear.
Transcript
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1:57Absolutely incredible. He launched himself six feet into the crowd and Kung Fu kicked a supporter who was without a shadow of a doubt giving him lip. Oh, I say, it's amazing. He does it time and time and time again. Crank up the music. Charge a glass. This nation is going to dance all night. Wrexham, welcome to Connor Cody. Half-arsed gambling advert spiel, Jeremy Corbyn on allotments. Stephen Warnock makes a pig's ear of a cliche. How do we feel about doubleheader friendlies? An Albanian club name made up entirely of prefixes and suffixes. The alphabetical distribution of the pre-embryonic league tables of the European Big Five.
2:43Astonishing scenes in the edit history of Jimmy Greaves' Wikipedia page. And second-string clothes getting a run out before being left off the plane. Brought to your ears by Goal Hanger Podcast. This is Football Clichés.
2:58Hello everyone and welcome to Football Clichés. I'm Adam Hurry. This is the midweek adjudication panel. Joining me is David Walker. How are you doing? I'm good. And Nick Miller. How are you? Very well. Excellent. I've got a bit of an update off the back of last week's listeners' MHD episode. the climax of which if you haven't listened was a very enjoyable chat about why there seems to be an apparent dearth of chips in football stadiums yeah um i speculated that it was because nobody would trust the oily-faced teenagers who staff the kiosks of the football stadiums with a deep fat fryer um and it turns out i'm not a million miles away but i i should perhaps have had a bit more faith in the youngsters.
3:47So listener Christian, he got in touch with me and he said it's actually a ventilation issue. Not many football grounds, if any. There are a couple. I think Watford had a spell having some chips on sale at one stage. But basically, most football grounds don't have the required ventilation that you need. What a boring answer, but makes perfect sense. Exactly. Nick, I guess this does make sense because most food at modern stadiums is served in a concourse, which is pretty much adjacent to the bowels of a stadium, and they're famously unwell-ventilated places. Yeah, classically sort of directly underneath the seating as well, so you don't want to be ventilating oil or whatever right into the seats, do you?
4:32Quite a nice football-y smell to waft up, though, wouldn't it? Chips. and you make people hungrier and they want to go back down and buy them. Exactly. Yeah, it's like Sainsbury's pumping in the bread smell to the door. The next new stadium is going to boast chippy ventilation. Now, Nick, among the best correspondents I received before this episode was a tweet from former Nottingham Forest forward turned rock star Paul McGregor who objected to being described on last week's cliches quiz as a waif. Yes, I saw this. I'm standing with you on this one. I think he was quite waif-y. He was quite waif-y.
5:05He's a very, very sort of slim, not massively tall guy. So, yeah, I think you're fine. Yeah. I'm just having a look at him now to see whether I agree with him or you. Is he wavy? He's sort of got quite wavy hair, you know? It was sort of wispy. He was wispy. Yeah, wispy hair. Wispy and wavy. Wispy and wavy. I guess a little bit wavy. Yeah. Yeah, this won't be the first act of pedantry on this episode. A reminder, of course, that you can join us on tour in 2025. go to tickets.footballcliches.com to get your ticket and join us in Brighton Cardiff London Birmingham Dublin Manchester not Leeds or Glasgow because they're sold out but it's going to be brilliant a footballer's names in things popped up yesterday that I'm saving for the live show because it's so good and if that's not a reason to turn up I don't know what is so come and join us I am looking forward to it as you said the other day only two months to go now which you know starting to starting to get there when you start putting this show together soon don't we but um a london show is on a sunday we've never done a sunday show before it's on sunday the 12th of october and this led me initially to think whether any listeners who would be so minded to get involved in a potential cliches extravaganza of watching ribblesdale play on sunday morning watching super sunday in the pub in the afternoon then doing the cliche show in the evening.
6:31Oh, I fear for you. It's a hell of a stint, that, isn't it? Slight spanner in the works. It's in the international break, so they won't... I'm not sure what's going to be on on some Scottish football, maybe. No, even that's not going to be on, is it? Maybe England would be playing on the Sunday or something, but it's not quite as... Might have to watch the F1. Oh, God. That sounds like one of the worst days of my life already. I'm not even watching the F1 in a pub. I just don't know how that would work. Listen, I've seen it. It's starting to be a thing. Really? It's starting to be a thing. You're seeing people and it's always the McLaren fans in their orange T-shirts.
7:06Is it on the little chalkboards outside? Rubbish. That's putting people off. Don't put people off. Come to the live shows. Tickets.footballcliches.com. Right, time for the midweek adjudication panel. Quite simply, Nick, Connor Cody, welcome to Wrexham. I think the people who I spoke to about the club, I think the people within the club, I think really attracted me to the football club. I love playing with good people. I love being around good people. and that's what's certainly here at this football club. I'm not here to just be part of Wrexham, I'm here to really drive the club and hopefully take the club to the place where it wants to be and that's what I've come here for and I want to play there again.
7:40It's as simple as that, I want to be part of that again and I want to be part of it with this football club. That's another thing that I'm really thankful for for the football club. I've spent a lot of years away from home and it's the first time with the football club but a lot of players have played in this division before, they know about it and for me, I'll give you everything. I'll give you everything every single day of my life of being at Wrexham, being part of this football club, being excited to be part of this football club. It's got everything you could possibly hope for from a Connor Cody interview, Nick.
8:05Jack Copper of listenfairplay.com fame has done his analysis on this interview. Five minutes and 28 seconds, this interview is, and Connor Cody reels off seven football clubs, which is 1.28 football clubs per minute, astonishingly. There are an additional 16 instances of a club, the club or this club which i actually did not include in my montage slash analysis i let those slide but they are very much part of the kind of wider earnest tapestry of being connor cody so let's get to the crux of this this is one football club from connor cody every 46.8 seconds which just beats his record set on his everton unveiling of one football club every 47.8 seconds so he's getting better he's showing no signs of slowing down it's probably his last move as well isn't it probably his last opportunity to to really do this so it's nice that he has beat his own record yeah but i mean dave this is perfect the perfect combination of player and club to to beat his record i think yes i mean just the whole thing is just there's almost if you actually watch this video there's a sort of smirk on his face like it's almost as if he sort of knows what he's doing surely this must have been mentioned to him at some point i mean it's it's mad really he's just a lovely bloke he gets away with it i'm all right with him i think connor cody's just a tremendous man i really like him yeah no i think you're right i think it does feel genuine for sure but um one point because i'll give you everything every day of my life the whole interview is like that Nick.
9:40There's proverbial brick walls everywhere. It's wedding vows.
9:47In sickness and in health. Richer, poorer, don't mind. Do you think that you say it's his last move, but do you think this kind of, this persona that he's obviously is this designed to actually extend his career beyond any kind of like normal football career would. You know, he can sign for a club, he doesn't actually have to play any football. He can just be the The guy that is good to hang around. Yeah, and also like coaching, managerial career. He can do it. Yeah, for as long as he's in the game, this can keep happening. He actually spends a large portion of this interview essentially framing himself as someone who's great around the dressing room.
10:26Like he says, I'm going to come in, set the standards every day and that sort of stuff. So he barely talks about playing at all. Although he is raring to get started. Of course he is. I think setting standards is fine to say of yourself, but I thought you were going to say, I'm going to, you know, I'll be laughing there. I'll tell some jokes, you know, banter. Bless him. Yeah, great man and great to see he's keeping his numbers up. Right, this came from Jesus Freak. Here is Rangers new boy, Oliver Antman, talking after their 3-0 win over Victoria Pulzen in the first leg of their Champions League qualifying tie.
10:59Well, Oliver, how was that for a Rangers debut? Yeah, it was great. great atmosphere great stadium yeah we played some good football and yeah took the three points no not three points we won that's the most important thing Dave great to see someone finally correcting themselves it's a classic pitfall it happens all the time this is this is the byproduct of autopilot post-match footballer interviews finally someone has had the self-awareness to take a step back and say do you know what no no it's not right yeah yeah that's nice nice bit of awareness and also like that he still got in, that's the, we won, that's the most important thing.
11:38Even when he was laughing, he still got in, obviously, the win is the most important thing. I mean, just getting the points, getting the three points, Nick, is just so core to the football interview experience. If you can't have that, you're lost. A couple of rounds from him being accurate there, it sort of seemed to serve as a nice, lovely little sort of tension breaker as well. He seemed quite stiff. maybe he hasn't really done many of these kind of postmaster interviews before. But then when he realised, oh, what a gaffe, then he had a nice little laugh and everyone was relaxed afterwards. Yeah, teammate next to him joining in.
12:09It was just fantastic. Yeah, feel-good factor everywhere. Speaking of autopilot half-arsed football chat, here is an excerpt from a Skybet podcast advert. This is basically it in its entirety, actually. XG, park the bus, put it on a plate, put it in the mixer. How's your touch? Wand of a left foot. On the beach. Fergie time. Top bins. Lins. Hang it in the loo. It's not for everyone. It's for the fans. What? That's it? We just reeled off some phrases. Some of them are on vogue, some aren't. What's the point? It reminds me a little bit of... I remember going to see Morrissey many years ago, before he'd said most of the really bad stuff.
12:59And before he came out, there was some sort of foreboding music, over the top of which someone was just reading aloud bad things, bad words like cancer, Margaret Thatcher, all this kind of thing. And it was one of the weirdest things I've ever heard, and that's kind of a lighter version of that. I mean, we have a vested interest here, Dave, in football phraseology, but you can't just chuck these things in and say, well, that's it, that's fatigue, and you're rubbish. Yeah, not quite sure what the point was. It's for the fans, just for the fans. But a nice selection, though, I would say. Very broad, very broad selection.
13:30Yeah, a few quibbles, but we'll move on. Next up, Dave, this is Jeremy Corbyn on allotments. He says, of course, social housing is desperately needed, but we need not sacrifice these vital green spaces to build it. We can build on ex-industrial land and take over empty properties. Even then, we should ensure social housing is accompanied by community gardens, an adequate growing space. Is this government going to put the nail in the coffin of the joy of digging around for potatoes on a cold, wet February Sunday afternoon? the Stoke chat has reached allotments this is great February's good for this I think yeah Sunday afternoon as well yeah classic allotment territory surely I think so I had a look actually there are 80 different allotment sites in Stoke-on-Trent so plenty of potential for this to go the whole hog Roy DeLapp chucking his turnips as far as he can right this came from Danny Wilson here is Stephen Warnock on 5 Live talking about Chelsea's youthful squad.
14:28Now, Chelsea fans might argue and say, well, we've just won the Club World Cup. Great, but over the course of the season, you had ups and downs, pigs and troughs throughout the season. Nick, for my own sanity, please confirm he says pigs and troughs. Yep, pretty sure he's had pigs and troughs there. Lovely. I mean, sort of works. Dave, what percentage of the five live listenership at that moment have gone away from that show thinking, maybe it is pigs and troughs? all this time. Does it work? Maybe it does work. I love it. It's pigs and their troughs. The pig is eating from the trough. Yeah. The trough is below.
15:11Yeah, it could work. I'm sorry to Stephen Wardock, but it feels like ridicule. I'm not. I want to slightly entertain the idea that the phrase could be pigs and troughs, and we've been saying it wrong all this time. Brilliant. Right, more straightforward now. This came from Billy Clark, Dave. Here is the sound of Grimsby's Cameron McJanet doubling their lead against Crawley in League Two on Saturday.
15:43That should be the new Ellis James crowd noise. But more pertinently, Dave, what a thumping header sound that is, by the way. Yeah, proper thumper. Lovely sound. Really nice. When you're at a football match or you're close enough to a pitch where you can hear and you almost feel the sound of professional quality balls, they do always sound harder. All right, Troy Deeney. Yeah, yeah. Don't you think they sound really hard? Yeah. That sounds like you're just going to, you know, sticking your head on that. I hate a properly pumped up ball, Nick. I want a bit of give to my, you know, polyurethane.
16:25Yeah, but also when you're playing five, unless someone's very fancy and they're playing with a professional quality ball, there's always, there's that sort of, it's not the sound of like a flyaway ball with that ping on it. Yeah. But there's always an element of that. I don't know whether that's just the lack of skill involved in the person kicking the ball or the ball itself. But yeah, you never hear that sound that satisfying in anything other than professional football. It's such a sweet spot though, isn't it? because even just a little bit underinflated from where you want it to be is terrible.
16:57And it just ruins the feel of it. I just don't like it. But if you just go a little bit over, again, I think it ruins it on the other end. One of our, the assistant manager at Ribblesdale, he's a bit of a gadgetman. He's always bringing along all sorts of contraptions. He's got like a massage gun. He brought a drone along to the game a few times. And he bought one of these pumps for the balls that are sort of like a proper sort of professional pump that you just blow the air in. You don't have to like do the old sort of hand pumping thing. And it's got like a little reader of the, is it a PSI?
17:30Yeah. So you get it like bang on. And he did that with all our balls and they're just too hard. Yeah. It's not fun. It's harder to control. It's not as satisfying. You want it to embrace your foot to an extent, not to sort of angrily confront it. But particularly at Five O'Side, there is always one person. if there is that little bit of giving it there is always one person usually the one who takes it all too seriously says ball's flat lads, ball's flat you've got to go and pump this up playing with a flat ball it's just awful as well but yeah there we are but yeah if they ban heading then this sound is going to go as well that'll be a real shame little footballers names and things for you this came from Colin, the great Colin it's from a YouTube live stream of planes landing at Leeds Bradford Airport during Storm Floris
18:21i think the pilot of this is called mike newell
18:27doing good so far there you go similarly um retrograde views on female pilots presumably yeah it's a shame for mike newell that his his his sexist opinions overtook the fact that he was the guy who scored a hat trick in the champions league you'd want that to be your headline wouldn't you but no I don't think we can rule out that it's him he could just be an amateur pilot in his retirement he looks quite commercial airline pilot yeah he did in his pomp I can see what you mean actually yeah slick looking yeah could be right next up Liverpool played Athletic Bilbao in a double header at Anfield on Monday night Nick and Favourite4 writes in and says during the second game of this double header the commentator said in the last meeting between the two sides in reference to The first game that finished about an hour before.
19:14Surely that's not applicable here. You can't have that. No. First goal that Liverpool have scored against, Bill Bauer, since four o 'clock this afternoon. Dave, we rail against tenuous stats about things that happened in 1948. We can't have it both ways, can we? No, no, of course not. The last meeting. It's the same meeting, isn't it? Even though it's a doubleheader. Even though it's a doubleheader, it's the same meeting. Actually, Nick, how do we feel about these doubleheader friendlies tearing at the tapestry of the structure of football. I've heard of, there have been friendlies where they've played three halves of 45 minutes.
19:48What? Yeah, just to give more players some game time. So they play three lots of 45 minutes and call it one game. The doubleheader's very kind of, I mean, well, the three halves thing is mental. The doubleheader thing is quite sort of family fun day, isn't it? I imagine there was inflatable stuff in the car park. And you need that stuff for a doubleheader, Dave. I mean, no matter how invested you are in your club's fortunes, and you've turned up and you've paid your money to be there. I'm also thinking about the Emirates Cup here when there's two games in one day. It's hard to sit through two games of football.
20:21It's hard to watch one game sort of get started, reach its climax and then sort of peter out and then watch another game go through those same patterns as well. It's difficult. It's like watching four games in a World Cup day. It's like, well, I've done this. Yeah, and I think you need there to be a junior and senior partner of this thing. of this thing ideally the first game would be a bit of a warm-up starter and main yeah exactly two standard 60 minute games is a bit weird this is not entirely unfamiliar to me anyway because it's it's been quite one of the successes of the hundred in cricket yeah is that they have done these double headers where yeah where they have the women's team will play first and then the men's team will play second and in many instances most of them i think in fact that the women's game is always kind of much more entertaining can you imagine if they did that with england football imagine like the lionesses played a full game and then the men senior team came on afterwards it'd be i mean it'd be great but it'd just be be too much almost too much going on yeah that is that's too much i mean i couldn't i couldn't sit and watch four hours of sort of live football would be being sort of assembled and dismantled twice but i could handle maybe like an under 18s game and then the men's senior team.
21:35So you need that, as you said, Dave, that sort of dynamic of starter at main, basically. Yeah, that's too big a combination. But someone in a commercial team somewhere is thinking about it. Speaking of which, this episode is brought to you in association with NordVPN. For those who don't know, VPN stands a virtual private network. It secures your connection, protecting your personal information and online activity, especially on public Wi-Fi. A VPN can also make your phone or laptop appear as if it's in another country, which is great for accessing content while travelling. On that note, here is Celta Vigo's Iago Aspas, just sat down at training, listing the 2015-16 Leicester City squad.
22:30I would pay good money to hear Iago Espas on stage just saying Demarai Gray's name in that way. It felt like there was a, I don't know whether, presumably not deliberate, but he felt like he'd left a couple of pauses for someone to say whatever the Spanish firm, what a player he was, by the way. Yeah, there was a bit of that going on for sure. I mean, you know, you say you'd pay good money. Like what? International break. Sunday, October the 12th. He's not going to have much on. Come along, Iago. Let's get you on stage. I love the way that he lingered on Albright. And then he looked up, Nick, you're right.
23:05He did look up to his teammates. Was it Marcus Alonso? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know he was at Celta Viga. Yeah. And that was like a real sort of game knows game. Yeah. All Brighton though. Yeah. Yeah. The spirit of this podcast really does appeal to people just sitting down listing players' names. If you want to try NordVPN for yourself, go to nordvpn.com slash cliches. And our link will also give you four extra months on the two-year plan. It's the best discount available. There's no risk with Nord's 30-day money-back guarantee. And the link is also in our podcast description if you need it. We'll be back very shortly.
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27:22There must be like... So I know of a... There's a comedian called The Boy the Tape on His Face. Oh, yeah. He's quite big in America now. And now he has got like another... He's sort of franchised himself. So there's another fellow who does more of the same act who he kind of sends out to do other gigs. And I kind of feel like that's... Yeah, it kind of feels like Romano must be like that as well. He's got another one. He's got some other ones that just kind of... I'm sure he has a social media team and all that kind of thing, but it just feels like he can't be doing all of this at the same time.
27:55So he must have sort of other versions of himself. I mean, I stopped short of calling the whole thing depressing. I don't want to get too cynical about the whole thing, but the idea of a Fabrizio Romano franchise out there, just like, oh, geez. Anyway, right. This was quite interesting from AlternativeCar6159 on Reddit. He's noticed an Albanian team called FC Dinamo City. He says, are there any other team names made up of purely prefixes or suffixes of other teams? Incredible hat trick, Nick. No one can find another hat trick of prefix suffixes in a team name after FC Dinamo City. Rays of Davis says Forest Green Rovers.
28:35I'm not having green. I'm not having green, sorry. No, no. Even Forest is pretty tenuous. It's only one club. It's also, it's quite disconcerting where you have, there are no, there are no real clues about where that club is from as well. Forest Green Rovers is obviously a kind of similar thing. But yeah, you would probably guess at Eastern Europe somewhere. But if you were just faced with the name, you'd have absolutely no concept of where they were from. There's SwimmingPay8509, says Dave. There's a club in the Philippines called United City FC, which is about as generic as you could get. Yeah, proper computer game stuff, that, isn't it?
29:11United City. Really computer game badge as well, just a football with some stars on it. I mean, I'd love to know more about it, though, actually. How has this club come about, United City FC? Is it a new thing? Is it an amateur thing? And even the same for FC Dynamo City. Because Dynamo, are they usually the police teams? CSKA is the army. Lokomotiv is the trains, obviously. Spartak is the workers. Dynamo's the army? No, hang on. Dynamo is... I think it's police. Is it? I think Dynamo Moscow are the police. Yeah. We're all Googling it at the very same time. Jonathan Wilson's going to unleash this to us on a quiz one day.
29:51We should know this. We'll remember this day. Interior Ministry. Yeah, it's basically police. So they are essentially the Albanian version of the Metropolitan Police. Have they gone out of the first round of the extra preliminary stage of the Albanian FA Cup? Really hope they've got an extra preliminary round of the Albanian Cup. Lovely. Okay, if you thought we weren't midweek adjudication panel-y enough, here's this from Andrew Richardson. He says, this may be too boring to make it on. No, but I was looking at the 2025-26 Ligue 1 table in its current state of alphabetical order, and Le Havre are in fourth place.
30:28It just seems crazy to me that there are only three teams, Angers, Oserre and Brest, in the entire top flight whose names start with any of the first 11 letters of the alphabet. Nick, this is insane. Insane, I tell you. You feel like something should be done about this as well. There were lots of L's in Ligue 1 on there. So there's your problem. But they're not relying on Le. You know, they're not relying on that. There's L 'Ans, there's Lille, there's L 'Orient, Lyon. Very L heavy. Where's your cans? Get them up there. Big time. Anyone know any French cities begin with D? Dijon. Dijon, yeah. Dunkirk.
31:01Very mid-table heavy in the alphabet. Loads of L's, loads of M's and N's. That takes up the, you know, entire swathe of their division. But anyway, Andrew Richardson says, Nick, in Premier League terms, I always think of Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool to start at the top of the bottom half of the alphabet, which is where they are for next season. So I took the trouble of looking at the top five European leagues to see how they're alphabetically distributed. So the Premier League... An early check on the standings. Pre-embryonic league tables. Pre-embryonic, exactly. That's what I was after. The Premier League is fairly well distributed, Nick.
31:36You've got your A's, your B's, your C's. then, as is always the case, there's a big jump to Everton. Fulham always plug this gap a little bit, and then you're in the Ls straight away. To me, the Ls are the start of the second half of the alphabet, proper. And that's where Leeds kick in in 11th place. It's when the alphabet gets started in earnest, really, doesn't it? They come thick and fast after that. It's the business end of the... Well, WXYZ is the business end of the alphabet, really, isn't it? Yeah, I would say so. But yeah, so the Premier League holding up quite well, Nick, I would say.
32:06You get bogged down in the Ls and Ms a little bit. Manchester City and Manchester United are always going to stop you in your tracks a little bit. But yeah, relatively well distributed. Wouldn't you agree? I mean, you've done the research, so I can't quibble with that. No. Well, let's move on to Serie A now then, Dave, because they've got A's, B's, C's, then F, G, H, I, J, L, N, P, R, S, T, U. Not bad. A lesser spotted U. Yeah. Nasey. Nice. That's true. No D's. No D's in Italy. Italian cities beginning with D. It's not happening, is it? Dead air. Right. Over to La Liga. Where's Orncastle? A, B, C, E, G, L, M, O.
32:49Loads of R's. And they're all prefixed. So we'll get onto this in a moment. But that feels like cheating. A couple of V's. Yeah, Betis, get them up there. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah. Speaking of which, over to the Bundesliga, which is an absolute mess, by the way. Augsburger top. Fine. then Union Berlin like what? Whoa exactly Hang on a minute how's that happened? They treat their pre-physicians sort of quite lightly so Berlin are second Bremen are third despite being Werder Bremen then it's Borussia Dortmund Whoa no no no what are they playing at here? This is dreadful To be fair Borussia Dortmund are there legitimately because they're D so I've mixed that up yeah and then then you're down with the the one dot lot one FC a Heidenheim one FC Köln.
33:38I don't know what letter they're using. Well, they're using H and K. But they should be at the top, shouldn't they? Do numbers come at the top or the bottom? Numbers should come before A, as I understand it. Buy Munich a 15th, Nick. They're going to hate that, FC Hollywood. Where is this? Where are you reading this? This is from Wikipedia, the trusted resource. Right. Actually, I don't know what the official Bundes... I bet you the official Bundesliga website does not have the league table. There's no way they'll bother having it. Let's have a look. They do have it. Bayern Munich are top. Oh, what have they done?
34:11Are they just assuming? What have they done? Please tell us. Hang on a minute. This is extraordinary. Oh, my goodness. So on the Bundesliga website, they keep the same order that it finished last season. What, and it's all zeroed out? Yeah. Wow. Presumably, the three promoted clubs are just bottom. You're only as good as your last league table. Don't know what's going on, but a fair play to the Bundesliga. Picking up where you left off. No problem with that. Actually, Dave, how do you feel about this approach? That's madness. Is it? Why are we so hamstrung by the alphabet in this country? So you're saying that Liverpool should be top of the Premier League before a ball is kicked?
34:47I'm not saying they should. I'm just saying it's a way of doing things. I suppose they are. In spirit, they are, aren't they, I guess? Why not? I mean, alphabetical is completely arbitrary, isn't it? AFC Bournemouth are absolutely doping their way to it, aren't they? We haven't finished, though. Oh, we have finished. They are their top five leagues. There we go. So what a segment that was. More interesting than I thought. Let's stick with Wikipedia, though. Over to Jimmy Greaves' Wikipedia page, Dave. Specifically, his style of play section. Greaves was a prolific goal scorer and cited his relaxed attitude as his reason for his assured composure and confidence.
35:21He also had great acceleration and pace, as well as great positional skills, clinical finishing and opportunism inside the penalty area. He was also an excellent dribbler. All fairly accurate, you would say. Yeah, yeah. sums up Jimmy Greaves' style quite well. Echitus 90 gets in touch and says there's been an edit to Jimmy Greaves' Wikipedia page to remove the word clinical from his style of play because the editor says clinical is a daft word. Very key is this. Clinical is a daft word when used to describe finishing. It means approximately the opposite of what it's taken to mean in casual usage.
35:56Clinical medicine is the very human, patient-facing side of medicine. Time we drop the slack, No thought use of the word. Cold and clean, like a clinic. Can we get an IP address for this update? Has it indeed come from Doha? So they replaced clinical finishing, Nick, with excellent finishing. Come on. Come on. Clinical means, what do you think? When someone says clinical finisher, what footballing scenario enters your head? Clean through, firm finish, into the corner. Billion percent. Absolutely right. Like proper rifled into the bottom corner. No nonsense. Pass the goalkeeper. No rounding, no chipping, no dinking.
36:35No, no, no, no. Not even gentle rolling. It's buried into the corner. Yeah. It's a no messing. Yeah. Not even any aplomb. Incredible act of pedantry on Wikipedia, Dave. I love this. We touched on a clinic, didn't we, recently, when you would talk about Player X putting on a clinic. I didn't realise that in the medical sense, a clinical was what this guy was saying. Neither did I. So it's the distinction between clinical and surgical, I guess. Yeah. Surgical finishing. But no, yeah, Oxford Dictionary says the secondary definition of clinical is very efficient and without feeling, coldly detached.
37:15So let's just let language flourish. Wikipedia editor, what a thing to get preoccupied. I mean, obviously, there must be a hint of irony here, Nick. It must be. I don't know. Don't know. It's someone who's taken the time to edit Jim Greaves' Wikipedia page, so, you know. Time we dropped the slack, no thought use of the word. Wow. Anyway, love this from Charles. Dave, he says, I've just been doing some recruitment at work and sifting through some CVs. When I've come across a CV saying he has had two spells at Tesco. Surely a spell is limited to a football player and no other job role. It really made me chuckle.
37:47You can't just chuck in two spells at Tesco on your CV. Presumably that's just then as part of a sort of personal bio, rather than just being listed in terms of his... You scroll down to the bottom of the CV, you actually see the full breakdown of all of your appearances. Yeah, just have his lead goals at the top. Keen to know whether it was the same store in the second spell. Yeah. They say never go back, but if he knows the store, why not? Yeah. Oh, dear. Right, this came from Adam Rosenbaum. It's just a lovely slight of Andy Townsend on TalkSport. Nothing special, just some bread and butter Townsendian goodness.
38:27We were speaking just a bit before we come on here about young players from my era. So my era, when I was at Southampton, Shearer and Letizia, Matty and Big Al, both were training with the reserves as it was then, or even the youth team. And got that one and the curly finger, over you come, you're training now with the big boys. The curly finger. A whistle. If you've constructed a fake Andy Townsend quote, I think all of those elements would be in there. I love the fact that he gave Shiro and Letizia their talk sport names as well. Matty and Big Al. Is Letizia a Matty? I'm not having Dan's Matty.
39:08You know, before or after his head's gone the moment. It's just wonderful. The curly finger, the little whistle. Everything's great. I love it, Nick. Curly finger and, you know, this one. Not ideal for an audio medium, but he then pulled it right back with a curly finger. You know exactly what he means. It's just a great voice. And only Townsend could really do this and pull this off, really, couldn't he? But the curly finger, it could be... He's talking about it as in it's like something that you aspire to. Oh, that's I've got the curly finger. I'm up to play with the first team. But couldn't the curly finger also be come here, like you're in trouble?
39:42I sort of see it as being summoned from the touchline to come on as a substitute rather than being... No! Nigel, no! The manager is not like arcing his neck looking down the touchline giving a sub the curly finger, are they? I don't know. How do you summon a substitute from... Do you just wave them? It's a hand thing, isn't it? Yeah, it's a hand wave. It's not the curly finger. Come on. That's too weird. It's weird. That's obvious. Yeah. That was unwritten. But come on, Dave. Now you're going to... When the Ribblesdale season starts you're going to incorporate the curly fingers, surely. Yeah. I am going to dish out a few curly fingers this season, I think.
40:21Yeah, yeah. Oh, God. Right. Our preoccupation continues with the film Saipan, starring Steve Coogan as Mick McCarthy. Nick, it will celebrate its world premiere at the prestigious Toronto International Film Festival next month, screening as part of the Centrepiece programme, which recognises the best of international cinema. Is it fitting that Saipan, the story of Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy's contretemps before the 2002 World Cup, should take place at a festival whose acronym is TIFF. Lovely. Class. That's nice. We should go. Can we go? Yeah. Let's get there. Let's get to the premiere. Six South Lights, something like that.
40:57Fair enough. Very reasonable prices on some of those flights, I think. I really hope that the facilities are up to standard for Steve Coogan. Yeah. It'd be a real shame if they weren't. I can't remember any of the quotes from the thing to turn this into a joke, but let's assume it's happened. Yeah, completely agree. Right. Right. Finally, and sticking to the travel theme, this came from Chris Lepkowski. He says a question. For those people going on holiday, do they spend the final couple of days before jetting off wearing only their second string clothes to ensure their first choice are kept fresh for travels?
41:27Or is it just me? No. Spot on. Exactly what you should do. I probably only do this 24 hours ahead. I would only think the day before, Nick. I wouldn't plan any further ahead. But yeah, I'm definitely wearing the clothes that are being kept back. The Gascoigne at France 98. Yeah, yeah, 100 % do that. I'm a little bit further in advance than 24 hours as well, because what if you wear a kind of first-string T-shirt on Wednesday? You're going to wear it on a Friday. You've got to get that washed, haven't you? So, you know, you're not giving yourself a huge amount of time. Dave, I know you enjoy the moments where I reveal myself as a complete weirdo, and this won't surprise you, but I came back from my yurt holiday with seven spare pairs of pants.
42:08Wow. Completely clean. So you took all the standby players out with you? Yeah, you never know. Just in case. You never know what's going to happen. I had this conversation with my wife after my trip to Belgium at the weekend. She was astonished that I didn't have any spare pants with me, that I had taken the exact and worn the exact number of pants. It's like a 1.2 situation. You want a better-than-a-goal-a-game situation with your pants when you're going on holiday, definitely. I mean, without kind of prying into your personal circumstances, how often do you use the spare pair? the kind of you know the the or is it more more of a kind of you know you just know you know that you're prepared for any eventuality i i note your curious tone and i will i will indulge it i treat holiday days as kind of two days like a double header they're like the liverpool friendly against athletic bilbao you have the you have the early portion of the day you go out and you go and see things and what what and and typically you come back for a rest you everyone comes back for a rest it turns into like a three-hour snooze and you've wasted the day but fundamentally that's how it works to me the day starts again new pants new day and then that's when the sort of afternoon and evening begin so fair play i can't argue with it really fresh pants are a nice feeling they are but it just seems seems about necessary seven extra pairs was complete madness i don't know what happened there but you know i kept squeezing them into the suitcase so and now dave out of a moment of pure instagram boredom i bought one of those vacuum packs for suitcases which sucks all the air out.
43:40Bring on the tour. I'll pack your clothes if you want. And Charlie's. I'm a packing cubes guy now. I've got packing cubes. Yeah, elite. Elite packer. Great stuff. Thanks to you, Nick Miller. Thank you. Thanks to you, Dave Walker. Thank you. Thanks to everyone for listening. We'll be back on Tuesday. See you then.
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