In short
Football Clichés episode mixes football news, media appearances, and recurring “cliché” segments. Topic: FIFA/Infantino’s plan to sell World Cup chunks to private investment, mocked as “money-grabbing gargoyles,” plus other football oddities and transfer-window talk.
Guests
David Walker (co-host; presenting cliches record; wedding soon) and Nick Miller (co-host; Cape Verde devotee; discusses FIFA interview with goal-of-tournament scorer Sidney Lopez Cabral).
Key claims
FIFA’s proposal was “cut and dry” and quickly rejected by football’s powerbase; Infantino won’t “fall on his sword” and may seek support via a Trump call. Wenger’s silence is criticized.
Notable examples
Enzo Fernández “Falklands defence budgets” joke; backheel offside controversy in Canada Premier League (Vancouver FC’s Lise Mousset); Kings League spinoff clip featuring “gets the shot away”; Sean Dyche’s TalkSport “top three pints” (vitamin G/Guinness); John Stones repeating his shoulder “meta-knackered” move; Wrexham seeking a “second midfield general”; Cole Palmer’s Sweden/Denmark doctor remark; Chelsea set-piece coach Austin McPhee linked to Villa.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOHosts Introduction and Personal Updates
0:55 to 2:54
The hosts, Adam, David, and Nick, introduce themselves and share personal anecdotes, including wedding preparations.
“Find the biggest voices in sports on the Sports Social Podcast Network.”
Groundsman Transfers and FIFA Commentary
2:54 to 5:29
Discussion about the niche transfers of groundsmen in football and implications of FIFA's recent actions.
“I'm Adam Hurry and this is the Adjudication Panel.”
FIFA's Recent Controversies
5:29 to 8:20
Analyzing FIFA's recent dealings, including the Super League comparisons and the fallout surrounding Gianni Infantino.
“see this very, very niche sub-genre of transfer continue.”
Infantino's Criticism and Media Scrutiny
8:20 to 11:20
Discussion on Infantino's public image and the media's portrayal of him as a 'money-grabbing gargoyle'.
“That specific money, is that going to be rooted into a special bank account that is only going to be used for the Falklands, the defence of the Falklands?”
Reflections on a Recent Radio Interview
11:20 to 14:00
The hosts reflect on a recent radio interview discussing FIFA and Infantino, touching on biases in media narratives.
“Just Brian Swanson speaking really slowly at the FIFA Congress about the sums of money involved, yeah.”
England Fan Perspective on FIFA Reactions
14:00 to 17:43
Discussion on the unexpected backlash against Gianni Infantino's comments and UEFA's response.
“Funnily enough, I was actually invited by LBC to come on and talk about Gianni and Ventino and FIFA.”
The 'Gets the Shot Away' Phenomenon
17:44 to 19:32
Exploring a recurring phrase in football commentary and its cultural impact.
“but let's go to the other end of the spectrum now.”
Sean Dyche's Media Ventures
19:33 to 21:20
Discussion on Sean Dyche's recent media appearances and his new substack.
“Yeah, like buried deep in a five-hour live stream of a spinoff seven-a-side tournament while I'm in a yurt.”
Debating Beer Preferences with Dyche
21:21 to 24:56
Analyzing Sean Dyche's favorite beers and the cultural significance behind his choices.
“because here is 90 seconds of Sean Dyche on TalkSport trying to nail down his top three pints.”
Plea for an Interview with Sean Dyche
24:57 to 25:38
A humorous request for an interview with Sean Dyche about his newsletter.
“Can I use this platform to issue a plea?”
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Anecdotes of Watching Football on Holiday
27:47 to 28:01
Sharing entertaining stories of fans watching football while traveling.
“It's been a tremendous month for Dreamland.”
Introduction to Dreamland and Episode Highlights
28:01 to 29:16
Learn about the Dreamland podcast and anecdotes about football on holiday.
“They weren't allowed access to any sort of technology, although they had an iPad for digital scripture reading.”
Debating Football Commentary and Player Performances
29:41 to 39:46
Explore commentary mistakes and player performance analysis in recent matches.
“Right, let's pick up on some pre-season slash transfer window bits that took my fancy over the last week or so.”
The Evolution of John Stones' Signature Move
39:46 to 42:05
Discuss the repeated performances of John Stones' shoulder move and its impact.
“to work out how many documented performances of John Stones' shoulder there have been.”
Understanding Player Patience
42:05 to 42:40
Discussion on the patience needed in a player's career and its implications.
Chelsea vs Spurs Friendly Insights
43:33 to 44:11
Analysis of the Chelsea vs Spurs match and the implications of red cards on gameplay.
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Cole Palmer's Injury and Career
44:11 to 45:52
Discussion about Cole Palmer's injury experiences and his unique perspective on football.
“Kevin Danso was sent off after just 49 minutes, Dave.”
Austin McPhee's Coaching Influence
45:52 to 47:01
Exploration of Austin McPhee's impact on set pieces and coaching career.
“This is just, he is, no, he is, he's a man who exists in his own sphere completely and doesn't give a fuck about anything else.”
Set-Piece Coaching Dynamics
47:01 to 49:13
Examining the dynamics of set-piece coaching roles and their transitions.
“I mean, yeah, he's a celebrity and the fact that he was at the World Cup as well.”
Football at the Commonwealth Games
49:13 to 51:24
Debate on the possibility of having football in the Commonwealth Games.
“Well, they've got a chant, I think, haven't they?”
Over-75s Football Team Discussion
51:24 to 53:04
Discussion about the potential of forming an over-75s England football team.
“I was suggesting to the lads that we cover the...”
Footballers' Names and Impact
53:04 to 54:55
A light-hearted look at footballers' names making headlines and their significance.
“I want to end this episode with a couple of footballers' names in things.”
Transcript
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1:53He launched himself six feet into the crowd and Kung Fu kicked a supporter who was without a shadow of a doubt giving him lip. Oh, I say, it's amazing.
2:08Adam Hurrey:He does it time and time and time again. Crank up the music, charge a glass. This nation is going to dance all night. European Superclubs coming over here and stealing our groundsman. Henry Winter on Falkland's defence budgets. Gianni Infantino and money-grabbing gargoyles. A deep cliches cut buried in an obscure seven-a-side livestream. Sean Dyche's surprisingly convoluted top three pints. Abrupt angles, unacceptable penalty descriptions. Can you have two midfield generals? John Stones' knackered shoulder. And a Welsh farmer with Alan Shearer's voice. Brought to your ears by Goalhanger Podcasts.
2:46This is Football Clichés.
2:53Hello everyone and welcome to Football Clichés. I'm Adam Hurry and this is the Adjudication Panel. Joining me, first of all, David Walker. How are things? Things are good. Good to have you back after your week in a yurt. You didn't carry out your threat of doing a solo episode. No. I was never going to do it. My Don Bradman-esque cliches record of presenting all the episodes except one. 18 days to go for you until you are wed. Yeah. How does that sound? Yeah, it's really starting to hit home now. Although technically, well, not technically, actually, I'm getting married on Tuesday morning. So tomorrow as we record this.
3:36Oh. because we've got to do the registry office thing to actually officially be wed. Is that a case of before the Lord Mayor's show?
3:48Yeah, not the proper unveiling, just the going behind the scenes. Is it the dress rehearsal? Is it the community shield? Are you doing a rehearsal? I mean, we didn't... We won't be doing a rehearsal for the thing. That's American. That's actually an American thing. But I was up quite late last night on Sunday night tackling the seating plan. So we've got long tables, not like circular tables. So it felt like I was doing the pre-season, you know, doing the fixtures. I need a supercomputer to help me out. That one can't be there. They can't be together. But if you move that person, you have to move that person.
4:27Joining you in holy football sideways glancing matrimony today is Nick Miller. How are you doing, Nick? I'm very good.
4:33Adam Hurrey:Very good. Dave, the long tables thing, that feels like you need one of those ladders that you used to get in football magazines where you had the little things that you slotted in and you'd got them down at the table. Yeah. That'd be great. Yeah, he's constantly scrubbing out people's names. In my head, it was like Stuart Pearce picking his first team for Forrest, and then his wife told him he had 10 players or something like that. Or he didn't pick a goalkeeper. Yes, he had 12 players, including the goalkeeper. the story was his wife said well what about where's mark crossley funnily enough i there is somebody called mark crossley attending the wedding and as i was doing the first draft last night him and a few others of his in his group i was like oh i forgot them so there you go parallels drawn excellent troubling news for you though dave as you as you immerse yourself in in wedding fever um watford's head groundsman scott tingley has left to join borussia dortmund um great to see this very, very niche sub-genre of transfer continue.
5:34The continent love our grounds people, don't they? He's very much been the best thing about us, I think, in the last few years. Constantly winning pitch of the year or whatever it is. Wasn't it the Leicester guy getting moved to Real Madrid or something about 10 years ago? Something like that. So, yeah. We wish him well. We'll be keeping a close eye on the surface over at the Vest Valens stadion. Look after him, Borussia Dortmund.
5:59Adam Hurrey:I think the Forrest Groundsman was involved with the pitch at the Houston Stadium during the World Cup, which is where I was for three weeks, and it completely passed me by at the time. So yeah, that shows you my gymnastic nose for these things. Like the refs? Is it like a representation? I think it was like a pitch consultant or something. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but yeah. We really are top dogs on the pitch scene, aren't we? Nick, you'll like this one. As a Cape Verde devotee, the guy who scored the contender for goal of the tournament, Sidney Lopez Cabral, gave an interview to FIFA the other day.
6:38And he said, the moment I dribbled past my opponent, I saw an opening and thought, let's have a go, said the man whose parents were born on the archipelagic African utopia. That's a bit weird for FIFA to do that, isn't it? Normally it's quite knowing, Nick, but FIFA shouldn't be involved in this sort of behaviour. They should be playing it straight.
6:56Adam Hurrey:Yeah, I mean, that's too much as well. It's also not a utopia. It's a perfectly nice place, but it's not, you know. It's got its issues, right? Surely. It's got its issues. Yeah. I wouldn't, certainly the bit that I went to, I wouldn't necessarily recommend as a holiday destination. OK, noted. Not the first misguided move by FIFA in recent days. Before we get stuck into all sorts of things for the adjudication panel, let's do a little quickfire roundup of all the things that happened to prove that when you take your eye off football for a week, Dave, mad things happen. We had FIFA and Gianni Infantino try to sell off chunks of the World Cup to private investment.
7:35Eddie Howe leaving Newcastle. Chelsea signing Jordan Henderson and Danny Welbeck. Harry Redknapp offering his opinion on the Ceuta migrant crisis. Yeah. So, yeah, football just began to unravel over the last week while I was in the yurt. But I think this was my pound-for-pound highlight. Here is Henry Winter with Piers Morgan. I mean, first on Enzo Fernandes, whose behaviour he got sent off. I mean, if I was the sort of the UK government and I would just say, well, Enzo Fernandes is currently a UK taxpayer. He probably pays upwards of two million pounds a year. We're now going to earmark that money for the defence of the Falklands.
8:12We'll give it to them to see how they want to spend. What the fuck?
8:19Adam Hurrey:What's happened? I mean, just on a practical level, how would you... That specific money, is that going to be rooted into a special bank account that is only going to be used for the Falklands, the defence of the Falklands? I mean, that's quite a lot of money, to be fair. Is he going to appear on his payslip? That's insurance, Falklands protection. Great theory. I mean Henry Winter it blew my mind incredible things to suddenly come out with Falklands brackets not Malvinas it says on the payslip yeah it's going to be a long season for Enzo Fernandes I imagine let's adjudication panel let's begin Dave with Gianni Infantino and FIFA lots of parallels were immediately drawn with the 48 hour Super League story arc of 2021 and it did have the same vibe about it you know the big picture concerns is this the end of football or is this a big reset for football and then essentially people power shooting it down so as amongst all the hand-wringing and there was a lot of really autopilot hand-wringing columns going around this was quite this was quite an easy win for football as a football family I thought I think everyone was kind of already quite weaponized for this to get up for it yeah well but the difference with the Super League story is that what we saw there was scenes of fans like turning up at stanford bridge or storming old trafford and making making it uncomfortable for those clubs who were involved this story was kind of cut and dry before we could see the the sort of what i was hoping would happen with fans getting flights to geneva and storming fifa hq that's what we needed so i'm trying to storm like the capital exactly i don't want to encourage this stuff but i've been to a fifa hq and you can just walk in there's not like I thought there'd be like big security guards with guns or something like that.
10:15Adam Hurrey:You can just kind of stroll in. I suppose there's nothing you need to defend, is there? Well, Arsene Wenger's office, don't know. Yeah, well, yeah. I think Arsene Wenger could have been the Petr Cech figure sort of coming out to try and pacify the mob. Notable by his silence, isn't he, Arsene Wenger? A lot of people really mourning, like sincerely mourning, Dave, the fact that Wenger, you know, one of the great idealists of football, hasn't come out and distanced himself from all of this. A lot of people's nose is put out of joint by this. Wenger's letting a lot of people down in many senses these days.
10:49He's fully paid up part of the FIFA top table, isn't he? I want to know what Brian Swanson thinks about all of this, Nick. He's conspicuous by his silence as well.
10:59Adam Hurrey:He can't be allowed to have his personal opinions these days. He's full FIFA mouthpiece now. He is a mere mouthpiece. Could Brian Swanson end up as the new president of FIFA? If Gianni Infantino gets ousted... He's like the interim president. Somebody has to step in. Like Mourinho being the interpreter and then suddenly getting the top job somewhere. Yeah, exactly. It could happen. Just Brian Swanson speaking really slowly at the FIFA Congress about the sums of money involved, yeah. Full credit, as the industry demands that we must give, Nick, to Martin Ziegler, not just for breaking the original story, but for actively making sure that it didn't run and run.
11:36We didn't need this to dominate our summer. We've had a World Cup. We've got a new season on the way. It was wrapped up really quickly and continues to be wrapped up quite quickly, I think. Yeah, very surgical. Is Martin Ziegler, Dave, now officially a top operator? I think so. I think it's time for this podcast to anoint him as a top operator. I think he's been one for a while. But yeah, I'm sure if we're giving him the nod, that's a feather in his cap. I mean, you say it's sort of wrapped up and it kind of, it basically is. Although I think there are potentially still some twists and turns to come.
12:06Because there's been reports on Monday morning that Infantino has arranged a call with Trump and his inner circle, sort of pleading for support. What's that going to look like? What is – because he will hold on. He will definitely hold on for as much as he can. Well, whether he goes in the end or not, I'm not sure. But he'll definitely try. He is not going to fall on his sword. He just won't. You know he won't. Well, I mean, he's facing all sorts of opprobrium, Nick. the telegraph labeled him a money-grabbing gargoyle which i thought was superb wow
12:39Adam Hurrey:leave him alone good lord he i just watched um the this new murnio documentary that's coming out i watched that and he pops up in his in his former role as you know champions league drawmaster in chief and it was like he doesn't really look that different but he just kind of pops up wearing his slightly cheaper looking suit and you think oh fucking hell there's the gargoyle of football I know, yeah, the Infantino prequel. Yeah, it's very weird to witness. I was Googling, trying to find photos of Infantino when he was young. I was just intrigued to see what he looked like when he was a young man.
13:14It's a classic Google. Yeah. Name a person young. Yeah, there are a few out there. But what's more interesting is the photos of him when he was like Platini's right-hand man 10, 15 years ago, whenever that was. He's lost a lot of weight since then. Really? He was a big lad for a bit. Trust me, Google Gianni Infantino Young, and it came up on that, so you'll see it. And there's a few pictures of him stood next to Platini at matches, and it's quite funny. He was a chubby boy for a bit, old Gianni.
13:45Adam Hurrey:Did you get to any pictures of him with hair? Yeah. One of the minor parts of the mad press conference was that he talked about being ginger, and I can't picture him with hair. he looked like he was sort of dark brown but another thing to hold against him there were many pictures of him with hair which um which makes you think my my um very very small involvement in the whole episode i was on five live last week they asked me to come on with my england pod hat on to talk about it from an england fan's point of view so i was expecting you know a fairly benign chat about this is terrible isn't it england fans are up in arms etc and the guy it was quite late at night this this interview and the guy who was hosting casa alum his name was um he kind of took a bit more of what i would what i would describe as a bit more lbc like approach to the interview um and he accused me of having western bias at one point wow um and sort of thinking about this from a from a eurocentric point of view it's good to be mindful of that yeah which is fine but it did rattle me.
14:54I wasn't expecting it. Funnily enough, I was actually invited by LBC to come on and talk about Gianni and Ventino and FIFA. I was like, not for me, thanks. I'm not the guy you're after. I'll be perfectly honest with you. I don't know how far down the list I am, but definitely not. You know, despite my heavily caveated praise for Gianni and Ventino in recent months, Nick, in particular his insane charm or his insane implied charm to win people over, I am a bit baffled that he didn't see this reaction coming. You know, the blanket confederation level rejection of the idea, especially from UEFA. UEFA have never fancied him.
15:30And how on earth he thought that they were going to be won over by 20 more million pounds a year. I'm completely baffled by.
15:36Adam Hurrey:I think there's a couple of things. One of which is that, was that last week as well? That's the mad statement after saying, basically, I'm sorry for all the losers and the haters who didn't enjoy the World Cup. That indicates that he's completely lost. touch with everyone but it also like wasn't it whether there was going to be any kind of soundings out or anything like that this this was all kind of rushed out a bit later than uh he planned the line in the athletics big read on the subject where he says the gaff was basically blown by him gossiping to loads of rich and famous mates just couldn't help but tell people it's just sensational yeah that's probably why he didn't see this coming everybody loses their head in the end.
16:17Just to rub salt in Arsene Wenger's wounds, Dave, you'll recall that Wenger's law, the daylight rule for offside is being trialled in the Canadian Premier League. Well, its reckoning has arrived because we've had a backheel onside situation. So the backheel of the striker was deemed to be almost in line with the front foot of the defender behind them, producing the exact scenario that everyone said would happen if you just allowed the line to be drawn somewhere else. This is great to see. I'm so happy it has finally happened. Exactly, yeah. So you've got people saying, you know, how can this...
16:53I mean, I think this is worse. I think this is worse than being a toenail offside. Because he's clearly got a massive advantage. The back of his heel is just on his level with the furthest point of the defender. But he's basically a metre or so advanced. He's on goal. Yeah, it's shocking, but we should have foreseen this happening, Nick. but the player in question, the striker in question is Vancouver FC's Lise Mousset. So at least we know where Lise Mousset is now.
17:22Adam Hurrey:Wow, he was in, popped up in Ireland, didn't he, before this? Is that right? Yeah, I'm sure he had a kind of, he was lauded as this great signing for the League of Ireland and it turns out he was shit. Yeah, Bohemians. He played nine games for Bohemians. Wow. There you go. Now with Vancouver FC. What on earth is going on with Lise Mousset? Let's move on. That was, you know, good for us to tackle the big issues but let's go to the other end of the spectrum now. I would like to remind listeners, and indeed Dave and Nick, about this audio phenomenon of gets the shot away. Federico Chies, gets the shot away.
17:56Adam Hurrey:He skates into the zone, drop pass for Penner, gets the shot away. Lakes it on its way. Holding here for just one breath, send the heels back, press the mat away. Yeah, one of our niche-a-running themes, I would say, Dave, but one I'm really keen to persevere with. I want it to continue. I want us to have this effect on wider football culture. I always enjoy hearing the yoga gets the mat away. Yeah, that was the bit where I thought we'd really pierced the stratosphere of wider culture. But great to have a new edition now, a genuine new edition as well. This is from the Kings World Cup of Clubs, a spin-off of Gerard Pique's seven-a-side Kings League.
18:34Here's Italy's Alpac FC versus Spanish outfit No Rules FC. Patrick Kendrick on comms. the quick release here for viner also the angles against him but it might be number five lost his moment had the chance to shoot didn't get the shot away yes all the boxes tipped there i mean admittedly the shot wasn't got away dave but he pivoted very well so in the midst of that five hour live youtube broadcast he got the opportunity and he took it past tense which is a nice addition to the tapestry nick i'm pretty sure i'm right I'm thinking that not only is Patrick Kendrick a cliché listener, but he's well aware of the gets the shot away concept, as is probably evidence in the delivery there.
19:16That's full awareness there, and that's okay.
19:18Adam Hurrey:Really taking the opportunity when it was kind of presented in front of him and not in the most obvious way as well. So it's textbook stuff. But this is the perfect place for him to deploy it as well. I was going to say. The Kings League spinoff. Yeah, anything goes there. Yeah, like buried deep in a five-hour live stream of a spinoff seven-a-side tournament while I'm in a yurt. He thought he was safe. But he obviously wanted to be found. Hiding in not quite plain sight. I don't know what the motivation was, but Patrick Kendrick, you nailed it. Thanks very much. Speaking of spinoffs, do we think Dyche's World could be a spinoff to Keys and Grey Corner?
19:56Because his media journey continues, Dave. He's been on Jamie Vardy's podcast in the last week or so. Jamie Vardy's Having a Party, to remind everybody of its name, to talk all things Brian Clough, set-piece coaches, VAR, and his ideal takeaway curry. The subject matter doesn't really shift for Daishi, does it? It doesn't. I'm very confident that he will have dropped the skinny jeans thing in there, surely. Someone look at the transcript. It must have happened. I refuse to watch the entire podcast to find out. He's also, in a move that I didn't see coming, he's launched a sub-stack. Yes, good reminder.
20:36Interesting. I've not read any of his missives yet, but he did a little sort of promotional video in front of the wall, in front of the utter woke nonsense wall. And it's called UWN, isn't it? I think his sub stack's called UWN with Sean Dyche. Yeah, yeah. I really hope he carries it on. I want it to be like Keezy's where he gets 500 blogs up and then goes out in a blaze of glory. So, yeah, I want to move the Dyche discourse on a bit, Nick. I feel like a line has now been drawn. We're not going to talk about, you know, why is he doing this? Does he not want to go back into management? Is he burning some ideological bridges here?
21:14Let's focus on his current existence now. And the limited, let's say limited subject matter that he's happy to talk about on his various media appearances, because here is 90 seconds of Sean Dyche on TalkSport trying to nail down his top three pints.
21:32Adam Hurrey:So your top four, is it, or top three pints? Pints. Pints. Pints. Oh, pints. Yes. Oh, it's a soft one because you know I love vitamin G. I like vitamin G. I like vitamin G. That being Guinness for our listeners who didn't get the f***ing. No, you know, because like there's some with a bite in it. Yeah. Like, say like a nice Moretto San Miguel and all that sort of stuff. And then there's an easy drinking lager. Like you say, like a Foster's is a great pint. It's a nice easy drinking lager. And then you've got vitamin G, which is kind of just a mood thing for me. So, I can do an actual three. I know, in fact, you know what lager I'm going to put my name to?
22:05Adam Hurrey:There's two, side by side, kingfish and cobra. Oh, there we go. I love a kingfish and a cobra. I know it's always with a curry. That's when it's best, isn't it? I don't know whether it is one for you, because it's such a really nice pint, and yet I think it is best with the food. But I wonder, you don't see many pubs, maybe some of our listeners know some pubs, but with actual them on draft. Do you know what I mean? I've seen them in the restaurant. I've seen cobra. In a boozer? Yeah. Oh, no, in a restaurant, you're right. No, that's what I mean. I haven't seen many. Sometimes you get, you know the modern Indian restaurants have a bar, like an Indian restaurant.
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22:37Adam Hurrey:Yeah. But I haven't seen it en masse in pubs or no. So if I stumble now I've got no lager, it'll be that. But not really in order. I think there's so many good ones out there. I'm not playing the game. I mean it sincerely. There's so many good ones out there now that, you know, if you're going to a free house, you've got a choice. You've got a choice. There's that many good ones. The thing with the vitamin G as well, why you're so good now, is it's chilled as well, so you can have it on a hot day. You know, we made a joke on my socials. You know, someone came back and said in Scotland they have vitamin T for tenants.
23:04Adam Hurrey:That did make me laugh. Do you know what, Nick? Ultimately, this is actually quite mesmerising content. This is the exact level of detail I wanted them to go into about the availability of certain beers and which one was Daishi's favourite. I'm yet to hear his missives on Madri and where he stands on that. And it's, you know, provenance. But other than that, I'm quite happy with his opinions here. So the tone of the discussion, the shades of the, was it Tanzendon and McCoyst, the team of animals? This seems to have that kind of same level of earnestness, but also slight, you know, kind of, you know, we know what we're doing here kind of thing, which I quite enjoyed.
23:43Just overdoing the vitamin G. Yeah, yeah, drop it in, fine, but come on, we get it. We get the joke. This is it. This is what I've pinpointed as classic Dyche now, Dave. when he gets a little thing that he finds funny, but just can't pull it off consistently because maybe it's self-awareness. I don't know what it is. Maybe he just really likes it so much, but he can never quite just sort of breezily chuck it in. But yeah, vitamin G is absolutely perfect for him. He couldn't make up a better little catchphrase for him. I like the fact that he called it a free house, which is nice. You don't hear often pubs called free houses much these days.
24:20I'm going to take issue with his putting Kingfisher and Cobra on a pedestal. I don't think I've ever had an enjoyable pint of Cobra or Kingfisher. They're massively overrated. Like when you're having a massive heavy curry and then they plonk down a huge pint of Cobra next to you. It's not enjoyable. Kingfisher and Cobra are pure context. Nobody knows what they taste like. It's all about when you drink them, quite obviously. They don't take any different to any of the other ones, let's face it. But yeah, I was mesmerised by it and how much he appears to care about it, Nick. And it doesn't feel entirely put on.
24:55Adam Hurrey:No, I don't think it does. Can I use this platform to issue a plea? Because I obviously have been fascinated by Daish's last few months since his late forest. And I have submitted an interview request to him on this very subject. And he was initially reluctant because he didn't believe that I was genuinely interested in the newsletter. So I would like to use this to say, if you're listening, Sean, I genuinely am interested in your newsletter and all of your oeuvre over the past few months. So if you did want to talk to me, then let me know. You've got my number. An actual come and get me plea.
25:29Do we think the last five minutes will have increased your chances or not?
25:34Adam Hurrey:I will confess it was a gamble, but, you know, got to shoot high. I think we're acclimatising to Dice's new existence now. If anything, we've burnished his reputation. Okay, that's the ultra topical matters taken care of. We'll be back for part two very shortly.
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27:47Welcome back to Football Clichés. It's been a tremendous month for Dreamland. We put out episode 27 for free for our listeners because we loved it so much, didn't we, Dave? Watching football on holiday. I thought it was the right time to pick an episode that we loved so much just to give people a flavour of what Dreamland is all about and what better episode to do that than episode 27 watching football on holiday yeah very enjoyable i reckon i've got enough for a part two as well there's plenty more anecdotes where that came from the flood of the flood of examples from people just like people who are on the top deck of a ferry or something trying to get five lives so they could a lot of ferry a lot of ferry watching yeah in the replies yeah one of my favorites though incredible story from a guy on reddit who said when he was 18, he left the US for a two-year religious mission for the Mormon church, for my sins.
28:34They weren't allowed access to any sort of technology, although they had an iPad for digital scripture reading. Every Tuesday, they had the day off and he scheduled that Tuesday to go and visit his barber because he knew that it coincided with the Tuesday Champions League games in Europe. Wow. And yeah, so he would just sort of sneak off and go and watch a bit of Champions League at the Barbers on a break from the Mormon church. Fair play. Sensational. Yeah, take the action whenever you can. Episode 28 was hot on the heels. Voices of Football featuring John Motson, Steve McManaman and Roy Key.
29:04Not on the episode in person, just to be clear. That's out now. You can sign up for Dreamland for just£5.99 a month. You'll get ad-free listening of all of our episodes, plus two episodes a month of Dreamland, our exclusive show and lots of other things as well. Just go to dreamland.footballcliches.com. About, I think, 24 hours or so after we published the episode where we had a look back at John Motson's career, featuring many commentary clips. Somewhat ironically, the man who voiced Zippy passed away. Yes! Oh. Oh, sad news. Some things are just too perfect. But yeah, RIP the voice of Zippy, together again.
29:41Right, let's pick up on some pre-season slash transfer window bits that took my fancy over the last week or so. First up, this came from Oli. Here is Manchester United conceding early doors against Atletico Madrid in the Snapdragon Cup at, crucially, the Strawberry Arena in Stockholm.
30:00Adam Hurrey:And Atletico Madrid hit the front. A cross of real quality from Arnaud Ortiz. Flipped home to give the visitors a 1-0 advantage. They're not the visitors, Dave. They can't have that. Well, I mean, they are visiting in a way, aren't they? Well, because Snapdragon and Manchester United sponsors, as therefore they are the hosts of the tournament. I don't like that at all. Innocent mistake. Manchester United listed first in the fixture and therefore he went for the visitors. You know, it's good commentary shorthand for the other team, I guess. They were being booed there, weren't they? A little bit by the quite sparsely populated and seemingly quite young sounding crowd.
30:41Right. So maybe that was a bit of muscle sort of memory kicking in. Yeah, maybe. Other rustiness on show. This came from Rory Hayes, Nick. It's from Liverpool's 4-2 win over Sunderland, during which one observer said Federico Chiesa, great finish from an abrupt angle. Rory Harris saying, I'm trying to figure out what that would be. I'm assuming he means a cute tight angle here. You wouldn't comment on it otherwise. He scored from exactly 90 degrees.
31:09Adam Hurrey:Does seem to fall into that category of obviously wrong but also you sort of know what he means. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, it's a bit of a tap-in in that sense, Dave. But what kind of angle would be abrupt for you? You're shooting from there. that's a bit abrupt from you isn't it oh yeah i guess right on the right on the touchline yeah maybe um maybe it's maybe it's like before if you you have you have the ball and you're in a position to shift yourself to for a better angle but you shoot early anyway you shoot abruptly maybe okay yeah that's all timing and angle combined more nuanced angular chat now sydney FC versus Tottenham down under.
31:47And Alistair Gold tweeted, another Sydney leveller before Robertson curls home a fine spot kick. 3-2 to Spurs. Phil says, can a spot kick be curled home? Dave, I thought about this a lot on the drive home from Wales. I spent five hours thinking about whether the spot kick could be curled. Obviously they can't, but why? And it's just because there are two things, really. It's not enough distance for the curl to become, to be manifested, essentially. You can't curl it 12 yards unless it was really obvious and not really a penalty situation. And two, I don't think there's any benefit from curling a penalty.
32:21You know, that sort of classic Shearer penalty where he used his instep to bend it away from his body and that took it away from the goalkeeper's dive, that's different. That's not curling it. But curling it around a goalkeeper, it's neither possible nor beneficial from a penalty, is it? There's not enough time or distance for it to start outside the post and come back in. That's going to go wide. but you can like you said that's a good example you can curl it away from the keeper like you can put a bit you know you could put a bit of something on it and it's just going away into the side netting so it doesn't feel right to say curled home you still do put a bit of outside on the ball don't you okay
32:59Adam Hurrey:in Harry Kane's kind of suite of penalty techniques now because he mixes things up a little bit I can't remember the exact one but he does he has done in the past a sort of it's not a Penenka but it's a kind of it's a similar idea to a Penenka in as much as it it goes aerial he doesn't hit it with much power straight down the middle and there is a version of that where he curls it and it doesn't obviously doesn't curl around the goalkeeper in the traditional curled it into the corner kind of sense but it starts out sort of just sort of right of centre and then curls back into the middle. But does the curl have any purpose in that situation or is it just a by-product of how he's hit it?
33:35Adam Hurrey:Yeah, I suppose you could argue that if the goalkeeper dives one way, he's curling away from the goalkeeper, so you can't have a kind of Stuart Pearce in Italian 90s situation where the goalkeeper almost accidentally saves it with his feet. Yes. You get situations where you end up curling it into the goalkeeper. If you're right-footed and you go bottom right, goalkeeper's left, and if you don't get the technique right, the ball ends up just coming back in enough to give the keeper a chance. Yeah, maybe. Maybe that is a thing. I'd love to see a penalty where the ball starts outside the post and goes in.
34:10Is it physically possible? I want a TV show out there to prove whether it can or not. Feels like something that maybe at some point, like a football robot will be able to do. Like it'll be able to generate enough, the precise amount of power to get it outside the post and back in. Yeah, yeah. Love to see it. Next up, Alan Nixon tweeted the news, Nick, that Wrexham are after a second midfield general. Burnt Turnip says, can a team have two midfield generals in their side? It feels like a recipe for confusion. I mean, at military level, you're allowed more than one general, right? There's not just one general.
34:45I mean, I know there are famous generals that probably took over, Alex Ferguson style, but you can have more than one general involved, surely.
34:52Adam Hurrey:Well, I mean, there was obviously more than one general in the army, but do you have more than one general in a skirmish in a battle or is that the not maybe maybe they get assigned wars each yeah i don't know but in a footballing sense dave can you have two midfield generals i suppose in the era of double pivots they could have the same sort of status in terms of what a midfielder needs to do yeah although i think really it's more likely that you would have had two midfield generals back in the days of you know just 4-4-2 and having two box to boxman roy keen and paul The Lynts will have played central midfield together plenty of times for Man United.
35:29Were they generals? I think so. Yeah, I think so. We've opened a different can of worms here. Are they not generals? What are they then? Well, OK. No, well, let's get into this. What is the top? What is the main first thing in a midfield general's inbox, Nick? I would have thought it's kind of tempo setting, which Roy Keane did do a bit of. But I don't see rampaging as necessary in the midfield general's remit. I think it's authority, isn't it?
35:54Adam Hurrey:Yeah, it's a sort of aura thing. The midfield general to me is Brian Robson. But he scored goals. Like goal scoring was part of his repertoire. I don't need my midfield generals to score goals, Dave, at all. Yeah, no, I get that. I don't want them arriving in the box. That'd be like turning up at the front line. You don't want them there. You want them back in the control room telling people what to do. You just want them to control everything, right? Yeah, I think you want them to be in charge of the situation. You want them to be a muscular, authoritative presence in the midfield. That's what you're getting from your midfield general.
36:28To go to maybe an extreme example, was Vinnie Jones a midfield general? Is he too hard? I don't think he was. Is he too much?
36:36Adam Hurrey:I think there is an element of skill to be able to control a game. So Roy Keane, in that example, would qualify. But Vinnie Jones wasn't technically good enough, I don't think. So is Rodri a midfield general? I think he is. I think probably, yeah. Elite quality, tempo setting, can put his foot in. But is he vocal enough to be a midfield general? That's the issue. He hasn't got it in his locker, I don't think. Maybe he has. Too tall? Too tall to be a midfield general? Like Napoleon? Right. Could do a whole episode on this. Next up, Nick, I'll come to you on this because having had the pleasure of editing a lot of your writing in recent years, you do like a sort of colourful turn of phrase when it comes to teams being beaten heavily.
37:22I don't know if it's an East Midlands thing, but you do have a sort of surprisingly large repertoire of words for this. And over to the BBC we go. This came from BeatConsistent6428 on Reddit from the BBC's report of Hearts' Champions League exit at the hands of Sturm Graz. And it says, after their Champions League toweling at the hands of Sturm Graz, a few questions were being asked of the Hearts players. Toweling! As in being hit with a wet towel, whipped with a towel.
37:46Adam Hurrey:That to me is like a kind of, it's a sort of alpha slash bully move in a kind of US teen drama or something like that. whipping a weedy boy with a towel so yeah i think i mean i think it i think it works i can see you using toweling can you insert toweling in your next piece please even if it's for infantino infantino being handed a toweling by the welsh fa it's interesting that that's what your mind goes to it's for toweling like being whipped with the with the towel in the dressing room whereas the first thing i thought of was just sort of being rubbed down like being rubbed down yeah maybe because maybe i'm doing quite a lot of that at the moment with my my young child bath time but it's like i just thought of someone being wrapped in a towel and sort of being gently rubbed dry dry it off ridiculous i mean who knows with the scots who knows it could be anything but yeah i don't know does it if we go with the first definition nick safely which is a whipping with a towel how what kind of win is i think it was a six nil aggregate defeat for hearts do you think that's that's the benchmark for a toweling six nil uh aggregate defeat i could get not sure it's a toweling is quite like the word isn't quite emphatic enough for a 6-0 single game defeat.
39:00Adam Hurrey:If it was like a 2-0 or a 4-0 over two legs, then maybe that qualifies. A 2-0 aggregate score as a toweling? No, no, no. As in like a 4-0 in one game, a 2-0 in the other game kind of thing. I think 4-1 might be a toweling. I think mine's better. I think mine works better. I think it's like having your tummy tickled it's like you're just you know it's too protective it's too nice they've got us right where they want us they just got us there they're just they're just rubbing us down gently we're giving them we're giving them no resistance that's mad in your scenario i want to be toweled that's a good thing tell me next up um nick where are you with john stones doing the shoulder thing um he's done it in his unveiling video at intermelan so i'm just trying to work out how many documented performances of John Stones' shoulder there have been.
39:55We had the original with Declan Rice in the dressing room after the Mexico game. Mexico, yeah. He had the follow-up with Harry Kane on the pitch after... Norway. Norway. He did it at the Ibiza Super Club Ushuaia, and now he's done it again. At what point of those four did it become too much? Maybe even the second one?
40:12Adam Hurrey:Yeah, I actually wasn't aware of the third one of those. So when I did see this, that he did it, it's two things I thought when he did it in the interim unveiling. a are the italian audience across this was this is this is this is a social media phenomenon that went beyond the england sphere so i was i thought i thought it was a gamble to to do it uh but the second was i thought yeah okay fair enough don't do that again so but the the introduction of a third one that i didn't i wasn't across that complicates things like dave as a spectacle does it have enough about it to be performed four times in high profile situations i i've just watched the the ibiza version and he's like in the dj booth with a cap on to the point where the video that i watched it on had a had to have an arrow like and text with an arrow saying john stones like if you're in the club i don't know if you're necessarily going to recognize that that's john stones he does get the timing spot on though so i think that's the the big issue with the inter milan unveiling video is that the timing's off he's he's not he's not on the beat he looks knackered it looks like, oh, all right, yeah, I'll do it.
41:17Whereas the first one, the brilliant thing about the first one was he pulled it off so well. It was just, and it wasn't, it was really subtle as well. Like he was barely moving his shoulder when he did the, when he actually, when the beat dropped and he did the little arm thing. Like that was great. And then, okay, doing it in front of the fans against Norway, fine. That's a nice moment. Draw a line under it there. Like Crouchy didn't do the robot every single time, did he, back in the early days? i think i think it's a very good parallel to be drawn nick the robot isn't it i watched a clip
41:47Adam Hurrey:of crouchy doing the robot this weekend i can't remember where it was from so he you know 20 years on he's he's uh thoroughly milking that the other thing about the original one was that there was there was enough time beforehand like declan rice really hamming it up beforehand whereas with the inter one it's just like you know camera on him one two seconds this is it with every repeated performance the build up gets sort of withered away a bit more because people are too impatient you've got to keep the patience job that's what it is at this stage of a career you need to understand that so that's the fatal flaw of it but I'm glad we covered this it was a very important issue of the summer
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44:06Enjoyed this? Rick's eyebrow was watching Chelsea vs Spurs in their Sydney friendly. Kevin Danso was sent off after just 49 minutes, Dave. And in customary TV style, the red card appeared above Tottenham on the score bug in the top left-hand corner. But so too did the minute that the red card was issued. That is a touch of class, and I can see TNT stealing that for the new season. Yeah, that's nice. What happens in multiple red cards? We'll have times on them. What's wrong with that? Yeah, just a little line, just a little row of timestamps at the top there. Yeah. If you were walking in from work, Nick, and you'd seen a team had a man sent off, I think it's useful information.
44:45I don't think it's, you know, surplus information, is it?
44:49Adam Hurrey:Crucial context. Yeah, if you come in after like 70 minutes and the score's 1-1 and you can see that there was a red card on like 17 minutes, you've got a fair play. Back to the wall. exactly they've really held out for long enough now yeah yeah I'm a big fan of this what scenario are you walking into work and watching a match now walking back back from work getting in from work the classic situation of getting in from work generally speaking are people getting aren't they getting home before the match train delays I don't know listen a few pints after people aren't doing nine to fives anymore Dave people are doing shift work Damn it.
45:25Love this from Cole Palmer. Lots of other people did too, Nick. Talking about his injury issues at Chelsea, he says, was surgery an option? Yeah, I went to Sweden or Denmark, one of those countries to see a doctor. I feel like Cole Palmer is one of the few players who can just get away with just saying that and that'd be fine. Barely watched England at the World Cup and barely knows his Scandinavian geography.
45:46Adam Hurrey:The nice element of this is that you know that he's not doing it knowingly. He's not kind of leaning into this. This is just, he is, no, he is, he's a man who exists in his own sphere completely and doesn't give a fuck about anything else. And it is a little more for him. Dave, I don't want to go all pampered footballers about this, but can you imagine being in a situation, a space in your life where you don't care or know which country you're in? I guess, I mean, fall asleep on the plane, headphones on, not listen to any of the announcements. You still know where you're going. You got on the plane in the first place.
46:22I suppose so, yeah. You booked my holiday, mate. Kidnapped for a stag dude. That would happen to you. I feel like you're not above that. Yes. Surely that's happened. Surely you've been involved in a stag dude kidnapping at some point. I guess you could travel overboard or in a van or something. By accident. Oh, yeah, I suppose. Whoops. I'm in Denmark. Love that. Love that a lot. Chelsea are in talks, Nick, to capture Aston Villa's highly rated set peace coach, Austin McPhee. And a couple of questions about this. They'd already signed a set-piece coach from Brentford in 2024, Bernard Cueva, for 750 grand.
46:58Do you think this will be the first million-pound set-piece coach? Surely McPhee costs more than Cueva.
47:04Adam Hurrey:I mean, yeah, he's a celebrity and the fact that he was at the World Cup as well. He's Portugal's set-piece coach as well, so that burnishes his CV further. Have they signed him just because he was good at the World Cup? Please, please be the ultimate transfer of all time. Portugal's got a couple of very smart free-kick goals against, I can't remember who it was, I was at the game. Was it Uzbekistan? Uzbekistan, yeah. Lovely header from the little diminutive midfield general, his name I've forgotten. You say smart free-kick goal, there was just one where Ronaldo looked like he was going to take it and then Nuno Mendes took it instead.
47:38Austin McPhee all over it, had his fingerprints all over it. Classic McPhee. Classic McPhee, yeah. Dave, do you reckon Austin McPhee is allowed to take his kind of set-piece laminated folder with him, like Jerry Maguire's clients or does he have to leave it? What do you think? Is it his? Is it like us taking a podcast away from The Athletic? I don't know. It's a good point, yeah. Who owns, what's the IP? Who owns the set piece routine data? But regardless, Aston Villa's players aren't going to just forget them, are they? Oh, shit! Oh, what was it? Oh, no! Oh, dear. Oh, man. But also, just a further complication to this, Nick.
48:17Bernardo Cueva is still at Chelsea And he's moving away from a touchline role into a more behind-the-scenes position. He's going to be director of set pieces. He's not going to be on the front line, the cold face anymore. He's moving upstairs. Yeah. How many people do you need? Better vantage point, I guess, to watch the routines from, if you actually do move upstairs. Oh, Austin. Austin, are we allowed to do this corner? Or do you want to ask Bernardo first? If Austin McPhee was Jerry Maguire in this scenario, that would be him having like a late-night crisis of conscience and renouncing set pieces, writing a dossier saying, we've gone too far, we need to get back to what we know, and then wake up in the morning, oh, fuck, what have I done?
48:57Oh, no. Renouncing set pieces. Do you think he'll get booed back at Villa Park, Nick, Austin McPhee? I mean, this would be a sensational situation. A set piece coach getting booed upon his return to his former employees. I mean, why wouldn't it happen?
49:15Adam Hurrey:Well, they've got a chant, I think, haven't they? Villa that references him. And he's also striking looking enough to because if it was just some anonymous looking bloke then you wouldn't spot him. But there's this guy with long lustrous blonde hair. Somebody should throw a cabbage at him. Like they threw at Steve Bruce. I really hope something. What's the Figo pig's head situation here? Like a cone or something? I love this. I absolutely love it. Right, next up. The Sweeper podcast, a delightful podcast, never afraid to explore their niches. They tweeted, Dave, that we need a football competition at the Commonwealth Games.
49:58Why are we being denied Nui versus Nigeria and Tuvalu versus Montserrat? Perfectly good points. I would be very happy to have football at the Commonwealth Games because it's generally, the Commonwealth Games is generally held in places that quite like football, so we might as well have some. So their focus naturally was on the little nations, the smaller nations, playing a bit of football at the Commonwealth Games. But what if there was football at the Commonwealth? What would England's team be? Because that's more chance of that happening than a Team GB at the Olympics happening again because there's no friction.
50:29You could just have an England team at the Commonwealth and that would be fine. Would they be like legit? Would they be able to wear the kit? Would it have to be like a sort of separate England team at the Commonwealth? Would it work? I know what you mean because it's weird when you see the English athletes in the Commonwealth Games sort of wearing slightly, you know, wearing the sort of red and white as opposed to seeing them in the GB that you're used to in the Olympics. Whereas, I don't know, you could go down the route of, you know, is it just like the under 20s or something? Yeah, that would be a classic move.
51:00But that doesn't feel very satisfying, does it? England under 20s is always a bit of a weird one because I feel like they fall between the cracks of the 21s and the sort of 18s and 19s. So they could be an option. But Nick, I was thinking we could just send the England national game 11, aka England C because that feels quite Commonwealth Games level I feel like get them to battle it out
51:20Adam Hurrey:with your Tuvalus and things like that yeah it does feel like there is there is like a a level of player who probably might have got like two or three proper England caps but would either be genuinely enthusiastic about this or talk themselves into being genuinely enthusiastic about this like james give me a player yeah james garner wow oh you've aimed higher than i expected there but yeah i guess you've got national pride like could you turn it down the commonwealth games call up england see dave haven't played since 2024 though so they're rusty when they beat nepal 2-0 in order shot so that was basically that's like non-league england right yes would you do an england pod watch along for england at the commonwealth 100 yeah yeah big time Ali Maxwell doing a tactical preview of England versus Turks and Caicos.
52:12I was suggesting to the lads that we cover the... I saw a clip the other day of the England over-75 team playing Germany. Oh, yeah. We should be all over that. Do you reckon, on that note, do you think if you just simply carry on playing football, could you, Adam Hurry, if you carry on playing five-a-side semi-regularly from now and you're still playing at 75, are you going to be good enough to get into the over-75s England team? I don't reckon so. I don't reckon so. to be good? Or do you think you simply just have to still be able to run? There's physical capability. I think you have to be well above average physicality-wise in the over-75 category and having had played a bit.
52:48And I couldn't guarantee the former, unfortunately. But I don't know. Would I back myself at the edge of 75? Could I be arsed? I don't know. But it's a good question. Who out there thinks they'd qualify? Ask your granddad if you don't know. Love it. Get football at the Commonwealth for this reason alone. I want to end this episode with a couple of footballers' names in things. First one comes from the Reddit. Here is a Welsh farmer on BBC Radio 5 Live who has Alan Shearer's voice. Tudor Roberts from Abigail in the county of Conway. We're on well water and the well's dried up and we've got one spring going.
53:22I've been carrying water up from the local town up to help supply the cows and things. No, it's really getting really desperate for water now. There are touches of Shearer there, aren't there, Dave? Pressure. Pressure's for tyres. Oh, he's done the accent. He went for it. But Shearer's a good name for a Welsh farmer, Nick. It works.
53:43Adam Hurrey:Yeah, there you go. Excellent. Yeah, I would have liked to have heard some either pressures with ties or pressures with privilege, but you can't remember anything, can you? Finally, this is from 2025, actually. Here's European MP Lucas Sieper speaking out for trans rights. It's not allowed to impose hate speech in this parliament. And I can tell you're calling transgender people crazy. for being what they are is nothing more. So I ask you to not say that again, and I ask you, Ms. President, to stand up against hate speech like that in this parliament, because we represent all the people and not the people that you deem correctly.
54:22Thank you. Please, Mr. Farantouris. Making his mark on the European level. And then taking on the world in 2026. Fair play. To Ferran Torres. Great stuff. Good to have a little footballer's name and things at the end of an episode. We're almost caught up with the summer. We've got a bumper adjudication panel well on the way for Thursday as well. Thanks to you, Nick Miller. Thank you. Thanks to you, David Walker. Thank you. Thanks to everyone for listening. We'll be back on Thursday. And so will Keys and Grey Corner. See you then.
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Adam Hurrey is joined on the Adjudication Panel by David Walker and Nick Miller. On the agenda: European superclubs coming over here and stealing our groundsmen, Henry Winter on Falklands defence budgets, Gianni Infantino the "money-grabbing gargoyle", the inevitable moment for Wenger's Law, a Cliches deep cut buried in an obscure seven-a-side livestream, Sean Dyche’s surprisingly convoluted "top 3 pints", unacceptable penalty descriptions, Scotland gives us a new verb for a thrashing, John Stones’ comedy shoulder, the finer details of set-piece guru Austin MacPhee’s Chelsea move, the concept of an England football team at the Commonwealth Games, and a Welsh farmer with Alan Shearer’s voice.
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