(Over)familiar failings, the freshest possible World Cup final & Luis Figo vs T. rex

0:00I'm sorry, you can sit there and look and play with all your silly machines as much as you like. Is Gascoigne going to have a crack? He is, you know. Oh, he's there! Brilliant! The cheese! He's ran the goalkeeper, he's done it! Absolutely incredible! He launched himself six feet into the crowd and Kung Fu kicked a supporter who was eyewip without a shadow of a doubt giving him lip. Oh, I say! It's amazing! He does it time and time and time again. Crank up the music! Charge a glass! This nation is going to dance all night!

0:43Charlie Eccleshare:A tenth run out for England's familiar failings. An absolute leveller for fair-weather football fan office small talk. Was this the latest act of scoring too early in football history? The textbook premature tattoo getter. The curtain comes down on hand-fisted World Cup marketing slogans. the silver lining that is the freshest possible elite-level World Cup final, filthy-sounding World Cup demonym usages, dinosaur fossil prices finally hit post-millennium football transfer fee levels and won England squad members higher calling out in the States. Brought to your ears by Goalhanger Podcasts, this is Football Clichés.

1:20Charlie Eccleshare:Hello everyone and welcome to Football Clichés. I'm Adam Hurry and this is the World Cup adjudication panel. Joining me, first of all, is Charlie Eccleshare. How are you doing? I'm all right, thank you. Alongside you, from New York City, David Walker. How are things? What a sigh. Things are all a bit familiar, aren't they? Yes, England 1, Argentina 2. You know, there were two words that no matter how this World Cup panned out, Charlie, I just did not want to hear, and those words were familiar failings. Yeah. I do think, though, this was sort of like turbo familiar failings. Like, I don't quite recognise that.

1:59I mean, obviously, it's like a different flavour of the familiar failings. But familiar failings, for me, I think of as like just sort of fading out of a game and losing energy and being pushed back, sort of a slow death. And you're like, oh, fuck, we've lost a grip on this. This was like a turbo version. Like, we're just going to give, like, here, have it all. Fast-tracked familiar failings. Yeah, it was like, we're just going to, it was almost like a sort of tribute from Tickle to all the stereotypes about English football. It was the sort of thing that would prompt bringing in a foreign manager because we're like, we cannot have an English manager anymore.

2:34This is too pathetic. This is what I think in people's heads Sean Dyche would have done if he was England manager. But I think that's actually unfair on him. I'm not sure he would have... I'm genuinely struggling to remember a precedent for... I mean, obviously, if it's like a lower league team and an FA Cup tie or something against a Premier League team, But for like two relative equals to do this, I was thinking like Thomas Frank in the North London Derby is probably the closest I can think of. And that was from the start of the game. It wasn't kind of mid game. But yeah, so they're kind of it's an unfamiliar version of familiar failings for me.

3:06Charlie Eccleshare:You know, you could talk about the tactical side of it, Dave. You could talk about the psychological side of it. Indeed, I've just read a very, very long tweet by Dan Abrahams. He tells us to ignore the tactics and focus on the psychology of it all. And trust me, it contains some serious buzzwords. but um dave i make it the 10th time that england have exited a major tournament in the familiar failings kind of way but is there anything new slash kind of pushing the narrative on about the reaction to this latest one do you do you feel like the vibe is just exactly the same as normal i think charlie's right it's sort of it it's an uber version of everything that's come before and and i think it's sometimes sort of slightly unhelpful to always have to tie everything back into the 60 years of her and and everything that's come before like it's it was shit on its own terms it doesn't have to tie into anything that's gone before like it's it is quite specifically bad for for the reasons that charlie has just just expressed i think the blokes in chain mail at two one down looked especially pathetic oh god it's so bad especially in atlanta chain mail in atlanta as well a country that has will just have no no sort of uh timeline with the medieval the the blokes in in chamber when the camera cut to them it did kind of kind of reminded me of when like brent's in the bird costume at the end of the office he's just got sacked yeah probably won't use these um i did i you know i obviously we have so much practice in getting over this sort of thing charlie and i think i am well practiced in this art so i will try and look back on this game as as the first time that leonard messi played against england and appreciate the novelty of it because it did feel weird it felt weird messi just sort of being in and around england's world cup storyline um and his little sort of contretemps with with you bellingham and that face he does which is very messy what what is that face is it basically you do you and i'll carry on doing me it's an amazing fit it's kind of saying okay yeah we'll see we'll see yeah we'll see won't we and it's a bit like a half-arsed impression of robert de niro yeah i've seen a bit of that like it is like uh but but it kind of it's the football inversion isn't it because it's like you you know ultimately i've got the upper hand here and you are you're dead like you you fucked it you're dead but in trying to pinpoint the exact definition of what that face means dave it got me thinking like is that a human impulse who first did that face in human history and then someone went what's that but it's a very effective face now but what would it have been 10 000 years ago yeah i don't think you can fake it it's like you've got i think the person who would have been doing that is like you know the leader of the tribe or whatever like you you you cannot fake that only the the sort of absolute top dog is pulling that off to a wildebeest or something okay you want to charge fair play okay yeah yeah we'll see we'll see um such was the familiarity of the failings this time dave it felt like england um a bit like as charlie's already illustrated it felt like england lost in the most accessible to literally everyone watching it way possible i almost admire the inclusiveness of it because i got in a taxi at 1 a.m uh all the way back from walthamstow to home and i got in a cab a guy who out of the blue said anyone going to anyone going to here do you want do you want to share a cab?

6:33Charlie Eccleshare:I was like, all right then, fine. And he prefaced his observations with, I'm not really into football, but it felt to me like, I was like, no! And to be fair, he nailed it. He said exactly what everybody else is saying. Yeah, again, it's like what Charlie said. It's sort of just ready-made, oven-ready failing. Here we go. We'll make it really obvious for you. And I'm sure there will be deeper tactical analysis by people who know their stuff, fine. But on the surface level, it's quite... I think my mum would probably watch that game and have a decent handle on what went wrong. Yeah? I mean, I don't know.

7:11Charlie Eccleshare:Maybe that freshens up the small talk, Charlie, because as Jane Bentley writes in, it says, you really have to fear for the quality of the morning after discourse in the office today, such as the absolute consensus as to what went wrong. Yeah, well... Does this not improve things for you, though? Yeah, I guess it does make it easier, but there's not even the scope for a little bit of back and forth. And if there's penalties, there can be the, oh, it's a cruel way to decide it. It is. I mean, could there be another way, I wonder? You know, there's not even scope for that. There was one dissenting voice, though.

7:43When I dropped my son off at school, his teacher was like, oh, did you watch the game, Frankie? And she was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. A bit sad, wasn't it? She was like, but didn't they do well getting to the semi-final? And I wanted to say, not sure they did, Miss Sullivan. They matched their seeding. For 20 minutes against DR Congo, baby, yeah. Yeah, they lost to the first good team they really faced. Is this the message we want to be sending to the next generation? I'm not sure they did do that well, honestly.

8:06Charlie Eccleshare:Oh, God. Yeah, the primary school sentiment of at least they tried, that's got to be stamped out. There was another moment after the game which I found very curious, Dave, was that the Argentine players got hold of Jordan Pickford's water bottle from behind the goal, which contained all the instructions for their penalties. And it was an incredibly smug moment for them. It was like, oh, really? Oh, Messi was baffled. Messi was completely baffled by the idea that Pickford might know where he was going to go with his penalty. He looked actually quite impressed. Is there footage of them actually discovering it?

8:38Charlie Eccleshare:Yes, studying this bottle. They had to call over Senesi to translate it into Spanish. Yeah, I've seen the still of it. I hadn't seen the actual footage. It is quite interesting to actually see it. It seems like kind of more detailed, like it's all printed in a bit more of a kind of colour schemes. And it's like someone's actually sat down and designed it. This is England now. This is what we do. We prep. We prep. And the Arsene Times are absolutely baffled by it, Charlie. You haven't done any of this shit. It did feel a little bit mean, though, I have to say, which is quite in keeping with their, you know, I did find it funny how it was like a who's who of Premier League hate figures in their team.

9:21But they were kind of laughing at it, which is like, come on, you've won the game. Like Pickford's going to be feeling gutted anyway. He's already got Bellingham sort of blaming him for the first goal. Then sort of like laugh. It did feel like the school bullies picking up like the dweebs homework. But look at this.

9:35Charlie Eccleshare:He actually revised for this test and he still fucked it. I mean, England's just pure and utter despair after the game, Dave, meant that there wasn't quite the handbags afterwards that I thought there could have been. Bellingham and Barco went at it over something or other. But there was another snippet where Enzo Fernandes, who obviously is just an intensely annoying man, came over to the throng of England players who were just facing up to the England fans afterwards and just picked out current and former Chelsea teammates to give them a hug while weaving in and out of everybody else and then running off in celebration.

10:06Charlie Eccleshare:I just, I mean, I wouldn't bother, mate. Don't bother. Just leave it. Yeah, yeah, just leave it. We said on the pod the other day, we were trying to guess who the hate figure might be. And we probably should have, if we thought about it a bit more, Diego Simeone's son was prime was a prime suspect really wasn't he he was straight in there at the start wasn't he Jesus Christ I mean it took me by surprise Charlie the the immediate aggression the immediate leaving one on them letting them know they're there from the Argentinians in the first like five minutes because I guess you just know you're not going to get yellow carded at that point so I don't know what the the end is to the means I have to say for this yeah that yeah that is that is true it's i remember we's dying power league we'd play teams we basically worked out that you that wouldn't really be any sanction for just continually fouling and would do it and it was like this is fucking annoying but it is ultimately a victimless crime for them i mean i did think it was so funny with simeone like it felt like something out of a vinnie jones film or something that it was like this it was like this geezer's dad was the toughest hatchet man in football nearly ended dave's career or something it was like it was so on the nose that it was like literally Simeone's son as if they didn't have enough kind of pantomime villains in their team.

11:19I know, yeah.

11:19Charlie Eccleshare:All the plot lines really very neat in this tournament as a whole, really. But as Adam Morrow pondered via email this morning, Dave, did England just make scoring in the 55th minute become too early? Is this the latest too early that anyone's has ever scored? I did hear a few people say, yeah, I think we scored too early there. Yeah, it's mad, isn't it? what's the slowest 10 minute period of a situation like that when does the clock go slowest i think maybe 60 to 70 70 70 to 80 maybe the 70s would take take a while 80s go as they should do but 70 to 80 i think feels glacial for some reason that's a really good question because like yeah when you at least as you get there's also a moment isn't there when you're like okay i think it's now acceptable to clock watch like we're in sort of countdown mode exactly Which is obviously deceptive because of the hydration break and stuff like that.

12:10But it was a classic case, and this wasn't being wise after the event. It was so evident. 60 minutes, we were defending. It was like stoppage time. It was sort of crazy. And it was like, there is so long still to go in this game. Yeah, it was a real anywhere will do. When that nine minutes came up on the board, my heart really did sink when I saw the number nine come up on that board. Was it one all at that point, I think? Yeah. And you just thought, oh.

12:38Charlie Eccleshare:But also, weren't you slightly thinking, what's extra time going to look like? I know! That's exactly what I thought. And I don't want to reverse engineer. I don't want this to be, you know, pure cope. And say, you know, I prefer Argentina to have scored the winner in normal time. Because that half an hour of extra time would have been, so that team, who goes where? Genuinely. Yeah, what would they have done? I was like, this better work. Because if it done, like before they scored the first, it was like, what on earth is this going to look like? at 1-1? Well, no, specifically though, because, you know, the primitive psychology of football sometimes is that England wouldn't have started extra time in the same mode.

13:12Charlie Eccleshare:They wouldn't have all just gone back to their penalty area. They would have had to start playing football at the start of a game in a football-y kind of way. Who would have gone where? I just can't figure it out. It's like, oh God. You get an extra sub, I suppose. You do, but there's a lot of rejigging. Like, was Dan Byrne if not just there to head stuff out? Like, you're suddenly like, oh, could we take Dan Byrne off and then maybe put him back on if we did nick a goal somehow. Well, on Dan Byrne, I'm embarrassed to admit. Maybe I got carried away with the venue that I was in, surrounded by lots of people watching this game on a very big screen.

13:44Charlie Eccleshare:I have to admit, I cheered the introduction of Dan Byrne in the 82nd minute. I gave into the twee cult heroism of it all. And it's compounded, Dave, by the fact that within 10 minutes, he was up front for England. Obviously not going to win a header of any significance. it's so it's you know obviously watching your team chase a goal is utterly horrendous in those moments but there was something really futile about knowing that nothing was going to happen he might win a header and that was it i think he did win one header and it went sort of sideways to the sun's pitch i was in um i was in a bar last night after i'd finished up at uh at the studio and they had the game on again they were replaying the game and i got there just basically just as in their sort of last knockings really.

14:32So saw Argentina's goals and then watched the sort of six and a half minutes, like not insignificant amount of time that we had to fashion at least one opportunity. Yeah. And fucking hell, it was so shit. Like Esri Konza just had two really presentable crossing opportunities and just fucked it so badly and just Pickford just lumping it straight up the middle. It was just so bad. Yeah. I do think this is, I'm going to put this game in the category probably. There are a few others like this of games where a team I support has lost that I'm like, I'm never watching this again. I honestly don't think I can watch the goals back, any of it again.

15:09It's just too painful and embarrassing.

15:11Charlie Eccleshare:I can't imagine a situation where I would watch that game again. Not for heartbreak reasons, just because I think it would be an absolute, absolute slog.

15:27Oh, look at that! That is wonderful.

15:34Charlie Eccleshare:Let's look at the wider cultural ripples of this game. Let's start with this one from Mish Leedy. Here is Martin Tyler on the world feed, spotting a certain someone by the name of Sergio Aguero in the VIP seats, but then sounding like his AAA batteries need replacing. Good play, Jets Benz. Good defensive work. Now, where have I seen him before? Sergio Aguero.

16:06Charlie Eccleshare:absolute last legs there isn't it i don't think it was even a heart wasn't in it situation charlie i just don't think he had the energy for it yeah maybe yeah slightly couldn't quite remember it i mean it's funny you hear townsend in the background don't you and i mean that's you know tyler and townsend what a pair that is they've done a lot of the world cup together yeah it is an interesting combo it's there it's like he's sort of drifting off to sleep but just kind of you know closing in and there was another moment dave where martin tyler spotted louis tomlinson uh in the crowd and as we all did because it was on the tv but um he was very tyler at that point he went well you can certainly play football in one direction but uh and then yeah exactly um it's just it's just locked in for him that he has to do the play on words in the tylerian kind of tone elsewhere this came from george bolton here is kyle walker's verdict kyle that one really hurts doesn't it how much does that hurt you yeah i think i've covered every blade of flooring in this hotel room walking up and down but go on

17:21Charlie Eccleshare:if the only reference point you've got is football then you've got to make it work charlie that's that's so good oh he takes himself down that cul-de-sac and then just sort of has to follow through with it he looks behind him and down as if he's sort of trying to work out what type of flooring it is and just goes ah it's flooring i don't know what it is is it laminate carpet expected to see carpet because you might be able to get away with blade of carpet but no covered every blade of flooring i love it it's this is really cheered me up some other like i mean we talk about familiar failings but familiar sort of fallout as well charlie a england fan has a huge 550 pound tattoo declaring england world cup winners on his calf the 36 year old Rufa from Wigan says if we lose I'm just gonna add the words only joking afterwards egged on by friends he said he decided if England beat DR Congo he'd go for it but had to wait until he was back at home before a shop could fit him in why do it after the DR Congo game particularly surely wait till Mexico yeah I was gonna say Mexico was was the game for me whereas I think we're actually gonna get to the final here I'd say um that raised more questions than it did provide answers the DR Congo game yeah Dave why is it always on the calf these preemptive premature news worthy tattoos is it other calves just sort of trophy friendly do you think well there's like nice flat surface i guess i mean and it's if you're wearing to a certain extent i suppose if you know obviously if you're wearing trousers or jeans or whatever most of the time it's easy to hide but in the summer you're in trouble you know whenever the when it's shorts weather it's it's there for all to see unless you go around in a pair of compression socks or something i don't know does the the england supporters club just have like a little sweepstake every every tournament says right i'm afraid it's gonna have to be you mate you're gonna have to get the pre-emptive comedy tattoo that's gonna get you um some notoriety for about 72 hours perhaps though this from the bbc was the real death knell for england's world cup dreams and all the roads we have to walk a-winding.

19:27And all the lights that lead us there are blinding. There are many things that I would like to say to you. But I don't know how.

19:40Charlie Eccleshare:Because maybe... you're gonna be the one that... And after all... You're my wonder wall. Come on, England! It's so bad. So bad that it got removed from the BBC's website within hours. Is that true? Yeah. But before the game, even? I don't know when it was deleted, but it's not there anymore. Wow. Who knows why it was taken down? But what a cast. And what a variety of deliveries, Dave. Some people singing it earnestly but half-heartedly, which i think was my my least favorite form um followed soon after by the spoken word merchants yeah just just so bad like the full thing as well it's it it's so bad like some people i think it's like claudian winkelman was yeah like third or fourth up and gets one of the lines just slightly wrong and says it yeah it's terrible exactly like some people trying to sort of sing it some people trying to do a bit of a liam gallagher impression uh what the fuck is steven fry doing there like it has i mean the inevitable comparison is you know these sort of lockdown videos the old what was it imagine um that all those celebrities did and it's just oh it's bad they must have realized quite quickly like because i'm sure you know when they conceived of the idea that like this could be huge and people love this it's capitalized this is the song of the summer people going to love this and then quite crudely must have been like this is really not great is it but we were in you know we can't waste claudia winkelman's time like we've got to do it we've got to actually put this video out couldn't they have had some sort of rights free instrumental underneath just to give it a little bit of oomph like sort of you know musically because it was a it's a real slog to listen to get the bbc concert orchestra in yeah you've got your own orchestra lads you've got the orchestra use them familiar failings um next up i mean another well-worn genre that is drunk person interrupting news reporter outside football stadium but here's an england fan um doing it in a very particular way i would say on sky news if anything if there's any punishment about the falcons they have uh don't cry for them argentina i'm sorry about that The truth is...

22:12There's been a lot of fans who've had a lot of alcohol.

22:19Charlie Eccleshare:Argentina! I really love his tune. It's like an advert where, again, they haven't got the rights to use the tune so they've had to slightly deviate from it. There's something weirdly gentle about it, Charlie. There's nothing aggressive. Get him on the Wonderwall video. Yeah, I mean, fair play to the reporter. as she carries on like nothing's happened. He sort of, after his initial bit, he kind of gets bundled away by two security guards, but then he managed to just get himself back in the frame again. Everything about it seemed quite scripted, like it was made up for a TV show. Is the tune, the fact that he was allowed back by the two burly security guards who really he had no right to out-muscle?

23:04Charlie Eccleshare:Everything about it looks very staged for me. I don't know why. Propaganda, probably. James Bultby writes in next day he says for all the disappointment we now have the opportunity for the absolute bants of Harry Kane scoring a hat-trick in the third place playoff and nicking the golden boot off Messi like what as a percentage how much would that fulfil you Harry Kane winning the golden boot for a benchmark it's up there with an English referee getting the final you know in a parallel timeline it would be quite a Harry Kane achievement I think in a way you know he he is obviously he's brilliant but he he just does have the air of someone who never quite wins the big one in the way that would satisfy the narrative really do you know you know what i mean like even the gold but he got before a lot of penalties like a deflected one off his heel and yeah he's gone to bayern munich and won the trophies but there's a still there's still a slight air of you've not quite done it properly have you harry so he kind of would fit but the first the first kind of thought in my mind after the final whistle was like oh my god we've got to actually play another game what is that gonna look like like no but specifically though charlie obviously everyone is sighing at the concept of the third place playoff or the fifa bronze final as we're obliged to call it what will the team be because yeah i mean do you rotate a lot because if you rotate a lot it looks like you're sort of deliberately going out with a whimper because we i think we're getting battered by france so how do you get battered is the question what flavor do you get battered by france i mean in the i think in a way though if you because i was thinking for tukul the only explanation for what he did yesterday is if he knows or senses that the players are as a collective just completely fucked physically like that must have been a part of it you'd hope anyway i mean like it's not an excuse but so i think if he does at least from his point of view there's actually an element of self-preservation being like they were all on their last legs i'm making 11 changes you know loads of these players can barely move anymore at the end of this season so i think he might do that i mean when we we lost to belgium in the 2018 equivalent we made a lot of changes for that didn't we i mean we basically do you remember a single minute of that game no wow couldn't tell you anything about it i just remember it feeling like the the vibe seemed to be that we hadn't really given a shit there's just no incentive is there dave you get a couple more million from fifa if you win the third place play on i mean it really is like the golden boot is like the only thing that has that gives it any meager bit of of relevance clinched it in 98 like lillica was saying the other day like he played in the third place playoff in 1990 and i could have won the golden boot in that competition but it actually ended up scoring a penalty in that game and he got it instead but it's like so there's that's the only thing but i i think from england's point of view the thing to watch out for the thing that could happen is if i'm right i think the only two outfield players to not get on the pitch during this tournament are trevor chalabert and kobby mainu like if he doesn't play kobby mainu in the third place playoff there will be like a i think that will become a big thing of you know the whole free kobby mainu like why didn't tukul use him why did he take him and not someone else and is jordan henderson going to play with his car with his massive cast on brentford tweeting out gave everything that was amazing so good had to be actually had to double check it was real that was astonishing um i mean a few starters from that 2018 game it wasn't actually that under strength it was a mixture but like fabian dell phil jones ruben loftus cheek wow eric dyer all started that game so you know a reasonable degree of rotation i think all the properly knackered players that you can see are knackered from the outside are going to be are going to be able but I would suspect say Bellingham might well continue but yeah I mean much as it seems very obvious to cite the third place playoff Dave it takes a lot still to override the concept of having a football game to watch and it's England versus France all of those ingredients basic ingredients are watchable you feel like you must tune in your muscle memory says you must tune in and yet the overriding narrative is it's horrible 10pm on a Saturday night in the UK it's 8 isn't it we'll be doing a watch party.

27:21Yeah, it's 10. I don't think we'll be doing a watch party this time for the England pod. Oh, gosh.

27:26Charlie Eccleshare:Poor people turning up. Yeah, the saddest place on earth. Charlie, so packed was this kind of craft brewery that I was watching it in in Walthamstow. The 5G signal was present, but not active. The worst state of civilization, basically. It's there, but you can't use it. And when the game kicked off, I glanced at my phone and the last tweet I was able to read, the last tweet available to me in my timeline was Gary Cottrell on Sky Sports News. And I just thought, if I die in the next 90 minutes, that'll be the last tweet I ever see, thanks to my phone signal. But then, when it booted back up on my walk back to the tube, the tweet that arrived at the top of my feed at 10.11pm was from Richard Keyes, simply saying, fuck.

28:12Charlie Eccleshare:And I thought it was glorious in his own way, Keyes. Yeah, perfect. He's got away with words. he summed it up perfectly again. One word tweet, fuck, but he included the full stop as well. Yeah, and rightly so. A little glance at his Instagram, Dave, a couple of videos taken by his wife of him just sitting there absorbing this game as it slipped through England's fingers. And I just thought, I don't think he wants to be filmed at this point. He looked really annoyed to be filmed. Didn't really acknowledge it at all. What was his tipple for watching the game? He didn't have a drink in hand, actually.

28:48Charlie Eccleshare:Right, interesting. Tremendous back garden in view. Some great furniture he's got in his garden, by the way. The more I see of his Desres, the more I want to go around. Elsewhere, it was all going so well, England's World Cup to a certain extent. EastEnders finally embraced the narrative. This is how they marked England storming into the semifinals.

29:14All right, darling. Did you have an event booked or something? What are you talking about? Gene, it was the quarter-finals of England in the World Cup. Yeah, Jude took a sad song and made it better. And we sent the Norwegians rowing all the way home because, Gene, let me tell you now, we are in the semis! Oh, that was it. Yeah, I heard a commotion. Oh, did you? Wept me up. Yeah, I thought it must be a fight or something. Now, unbelievable game, though. Even though when we went 1-0 down, I was like, bite me fingernails. It was really tense, right? But then, bell in them. Bang. equalised and we're going one all but then it went to extra time right and then june bellman popped up again like the hero he is scored the winning goal even though we had one goal

29:55Charlie Eccleshare:disallowed that didn't really matter after that this is a really extreme example charlie of the of the mad exposition they have to do to prove that they they have been able to include the storyline in a sort of later released version of the episode why do they do this i love that he's singing three lines as it just sort of humming it to himself at the start it's so good including every single detail of the game Dave it's amazing why did the scriptwriters do this? and then the funny thing was Morgan Rogers comes on and I don't know if you remember but before the tournament all the debate was about him and Bellingham which one would start but in the end he had his moment anyway and Bellingham is the only one he keeps moving everyone else is standstill and he gets in there right there it would be good if it was like the whole episode Alfie Zonal marking Moon the final note on England's World Cup campaign it may well be that all the half-hearted kind of comms and PR work will draw to a close.

30:46Charlie Eccleshare:This came from Archie Patch. He says, I've seen this from mobile provider EE who put out an advert saying, it's coming to your phone. It's coming to your phone. It's coming. Free data's coming to your phone. It's just, come on. I think I would have preferred it's coming phone. Yeah. Well, yeah. But it did jolt my memory, Dave. I mean, I'm not saying it's full Mandela effect here, but this idea that people think it's coming, but they sang it properly. Like they said, it's coming home, it's coming home. This idea that it must be coming as well because it's a song. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, a minor thing, but worth noting.

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