The fixture pile-up threshold, Sean Dyche playing "Sean Dyche" & under-10s trophy parades

15:17Charlie Eccleshare:of what charlie just said there dave i mean you factor in the fact that it could only have happened in the last say six years or so as well anything before that wouldn't have got anywhere near the bar and it wouldn't been you know a break of match of the day decorum as well so perfect storm yeah

15:31Nick Miller:he is as you said he's the ideal man for this for this particular incident and as well because it's match of the day it's interesting they obviously commentate over it live but they could have edited out if they wanted to.

15:43Charlie Eccleshare:So it's been sanctioned by the Beeb. Game's gone officially. If match of the day or anything, that's it. It's done. Nick, speaking of people decrying modern football, here is Tim Sherwood. I always, as a manager, I always looked at the guy's training and I could trust my eyes. Before anything else, I didn't need the data. I could tell if someone looked tired. I could tell if the boys had got a little bit more in them. And if they had, then we would carry on training until I got what I wanted to achieve from that session. So I think football people need to start running football clubs and not let these scientists take over the asylum.

16:21Charlie Eccleshare:In many situations like this, Nick, you know, we're charitable enough to say this, you know, could just be a momentary slip of the tongue in the moment. But I would put some money on Tim Sherwood thinking that that is the phrase. And that's what he's always said, maybe to his kids or something. I mean, the kids are running riot. I mean, surely, the obvious point, surely you want the scientists to be in control of the asylum. Is that not? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I would say, so they are the experts. I think so. I mean, in white coats. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, tremendous stuff. Right, over to 606 on 5 Live next with Robbie Savage and Chris Sutton.

16:54Charlie Eccleshare:And listener Saj wants to give Michael Carrick the permanent job. Now this, we say this a lot, I know, but this really is 50-50 between Brent and Partridge. I'd give him a two-year contract. I wouldn't do anything stupid like what Chelsea do, give him a 10-year contract. Give him a two-year contract. What if he said, here's one for you, Saj. So I'm Michael Carrick. You offer me a two-year contract.

17:19Offer me the contract. So I'm going to offer you a two-year contract, Michael. You say that to me. Yeah, I'd say that to you. I'll give you a two-year contract. Well, I want a five-year contract, Saj, or I'm not signing. well if he's asking for a five year contract then you negotiate don't you yeah but there's always a break clause but you you said you said you said you were going to give me a two year contract and immediately immediately you know I said I want a five year and you're not willing to negotiate I'm off yeah but in the contract even a two year contract even a two year contract if you're a two year I want a five year I'm not signing I've done a great job I want five years give me the money or I'm off no no no no The club always has the right to basically think.

18:04Charlie Eccleshare:Thanks very much. Dave, that silence at the start was absolutely brutal.

18:08Nick Miller:Sutton's done this before, hasn't he? He loves sort of getting these sort of weird little role play things, but then sort of interrupting, not really giving him the chance to answer. Savage is just there in the background, desperately trying to get involved, but Sutton's not having any of it. There's a lovely little noise as well, sort of Brentian noise from Sutton halfway through his head, and he just sort of went...

18:29Charlie Eccleshare:The thing is, it really is equidistant, Charlie, between Partridge asking Lynn about the mini metro and Brent doing the pretend hotel guest. So it's actually smack bang in the middle. I don't know why Sutton persists with this act, but I'm all for it for content purposes. It's so good.

18:47Nick Miller:I mean, I love the fact that Saj just won't enter into it. He won't do the direct dialogue that Sutton so desperately wants. He said, yeah, OK, I would say to Carrick, no, no, no, no, do it directly to me. The narrative curve of the character of Chris Sutton is absolutely fascinating. It's just like, it's one of those situations where he's beat, he has, I'm sure it was at some point performative, but now he is probably has become the character. And he's just kind of experimenting and riffing now on these kind of, as Dave said, he's done in the past, these kind of bizarre role play situations.

19:21Charlie Eccleshare:Yeah, he was on Sky Sports on Monday for Hearts vs Rangers, accusing James Tavernier of having a heart the size of a pea. That is an unprecedented heart size, I would say. But that wasn't my favourite moment from that call, though, is this? Saj, how are you? Not too bad, boys. Listening to you two makes my day. Saj, give us a follow on Instagram, Saj. Unfortunately, I'm blind, so I can't do all things like that. But it's, what do you call it? Not on Instagram and myself, Chris. Not like you.

19:58Nick Miller:Again, she could be straight out of the office, couldn't it? Yeah, and I think you can hear some...

20:04Charlie Eccleshare:You're spot on, Charlie. It's exactly what you listen for. You listen for the rustling in the background. You listen for the panicking towns. And they were there. They were there. Because two men I wouldn't say were well-equipped for that moment. Also, just a needlessly aggressive response to, I like listening to your show. Well, all right, then you can fucking prove it then. Well, to be honest, it must get knackering having the preamble for every single call on 606. For that, I sympathise. Anyway, we'll take a short break. Back very shortly.

20:41Oh, look at that! That is wonderful!

20:48Charlie Eccleshare:Welcome back to Football Clichés. a reminder that you can sign up for dreamland for just 5.99 a month we are fast approaching the first full year of dreamland i have loved doing these in-depth episodes so far um for your 5.99 a month you get ad-free listening of all of our episodes plus two episodes a month of dreamland our exclusive show you can get access to the premium version of happy hunting grounds quiz on a daily basis plus other things as well just go to dreamland.footballcliches.com Let's go over to New York now. Zora Mamdani announcing free World Cup fan events in every New York borough.

21:22Charlie Eccleshare:Now, 45 days from today, the world will come together to watch Mexico versus South Africa kick off the World Cup at the Azteca in Mexico City. For millions, this game holds a special resonance. It is the same matchup as the opening match of the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. All you need to say is Shabalala, goal, Bafana, Bafana, goal for South Africa, goal for all Africa. And countless fans are transported back to that incredible moment. But when we remember the World Cup, we don't just remember how sweetly Shabalala struck that ball or how Papa Bubadjop took the incredible winner for Senegal against France in 2002 or Ramoul Lukaku stepping over a 94th minute pass to allow Nasser Chadli to score what was the winner for Belgium against Japan in 2018.

22:08Charlie Eccleshare:we also remember the family members we celebrated alongside the grandparents who shouted even louder than us that no era penal the strangers who for one brief moment in a bar or public park became the best friends that we'd ever known that is the beauty of the world cup the world's game truly brings the world together right two things i liked about that number one dave the peter drury impression and then and then sort of shifting back into his natural voice i'll give it a six and a half out of 10 given the pressure of the moment yeah i mean he yeah he's tried to do a

22:40Nick Miller:a british accent i wouldn't say it was a peter dreary impression though really really i mean he might be trying to do one but i think he's just done a british accent he's not really tried

22:50Charlie Eccleshare:to do peter dreary's voice no fair enough but yeah i suppose presenting another person speaking secondly nick uh when he when he got onto the romelu lukaku case study it definitely sort of veered into charlie eckleshare extra context territory in the quiz didn't it needless extra colour to reference the dummy but yeah it's the rule of three he had to have a third goal from somewhere Charlie great to see him sort of branching out his World Cup references from 2010 only

23:17Nick Miller:yeah exactly proving his credentials I mean how baffled the people behind him look because he's doing all this and they sort of just want some platitudes about World Cup bringing people together and he's giving all this detail it's great stuff

23:27Charlie Eccleshare:you're laughing at a Peter Drury impression you have no idea who this guy is what are you doing right time for footballers names in things first one a news report saying residents are being urged to speak to the police if they see this wanted man or know of his whereabouts cheshire police is appealing for information that may help officers to trace dale peter schmeichel waterworth the 32 year old who the force says is of warrington is wanted in relation to a theft offense peter schmeichel is his middle name charlie do we think that this was parents issuing it so circa 1994 which feels early to anoint peter schmeichel as like the defining thing?

24:01Charlie Eccleshare:Or do you think he probably went for it himself by deed poll later on? But then... Can't be bit both.

24:06Nick Miller:For him to go and change it, yeah, they're both. I mean, my assumption naturally, first of all, was that it was from his parents. Because for him to go and change it, he wouldn't really have lived through the Schmeichel golden age. It would have been a retrospective, God, I love Schmeichel. I mean, Schmeichel left United in 99. So like that would be an odd thing for him to have just been so, for him to love Schmeichel that much. Yeah, unless he then got in, you know, watched old DVDs of Schmeichel at United and was like, God, I love this guy so much. I want to change my name to him. I've got a theory.

24:34Nick Miller:So I blame the parents. Maybe Peter is just a family in the family name. Maybe they're big fans of Corey and the dog in Corey, Schmeichel, named after Peter Schmeichel, but they didn't realise why the dog was called Schmeichel. Yeah, well, he's got Peter. Oh, and Schmeichel as well because we'd like that dog off Corey.

24:53Charlie Eccleshare:Well, other explanations there. Maybe he's just a big sporting Lisbon fan, Nick, and he really enjoyed Schmeichel's one season there. is he a Leicester fan and changed the name by D-Pol in 2016 perhaps as a tribute to the father of the goalkeeper in that team rather than the actual because maybe he thought well about Casper that would be particularly stupid seeing a recent rise of sort of crime reports that hinge basically around the curiosity of the person involved and the humour that might be derived on social media rather than the seriousness of their crimes anyway next up cryptically titled new Netflix rom-com Office Romance starring Jennifer Lopez as a high powered CEO and Ted Lasso ace Brett Goldstein as her new British lawyer.

25:34Nick Miller:Daniel, you need to be in Miss Cruz's office in five minutes. Have you met Miss Cruz?

25:38Charlie Eccleshare:She's tough. She hates the sound of breathing. Don't breathe. But if you have to, try to take a quick gasp through the side of your mouth like this.

25:47He wanted to see me.

25:51Holy shit. You're the new lawyer?

25:54Charlie Eccleshare:I am he, Daniel Lanceflower. Charlie, it really is 50-50 in this situation about whether a Spurs supporting producer has got involved here or they just think that's the most British name that they could have come up with at that moment.

26:09Nick Miller:I think it's the former. But yeah, I wouldn't also rule out that that is what Americans think our names are like. They're going with Daniel. Is that a way of saying, well, if we go for Danny Blanchfield, that would just be too obvious. Yeah, that's not a lawyer's name either. It's kind of a lawyer called Danny. I think so. Also, has Jennifer Lopez not made this form about five times?

26:28Charlie Eccleshare:for? I don't know. It looks so bad. And you really lose faith with the film when it just gets given a title like that. Office romance. I mean, come on. It might match of the day, I suppose. I suppose they're probably all thinking about that about too. So, finally, this is a second from Alex Taylor and Dan Bryce Bateman. As Brighton try and claw their way back into it against Newcastle, they bring on a Premier League winning veteran winger. Your commentator at St James' Park, Martin Fisher. Tonali has lost it. Routier. It's all Brighton. That's Routier. Clever skills and it's over the bar from minty what a chance oh i really enjoyed that one nick i have to say yeah it's lovely stuff is it amazing i haven't heard that before it feels like it's the kind of thing that would pop up but maybe it hasn't i just haven't been paying attention and

27:11Nick Miller:the passage of play was basically the sort of thing that margall brighton you would have done

27:15Charlie Eccleshare:yeah cutting in from the left squaring it across the box yeah really in the spirit of footballers names and things that was right before we take a break this is restaurant supplier tony allen naming his greatest British chef of all time. The best chef I have ever seen is Marko in his pump. Yeah. 89.90. It's so weird, Dave, hearing people say anything in season style. What a season he had in 89.90. Was it like Christmas 89, do you reckon, that he was like recooked an amazing Christmas dinner and then did a sort of New Year's buffet as well? Yeah, yeah, maybe. I also find it extremely funny when people refer to someone being in their pump in anything other than a football situation.

27:58Is that a phrase that is from football?

28:01Nick Miller:Yeah, I think, I mean, obviously we think of it like that. But also just putting a time on a pump in anything else just feels harder because we have such easy timestamps with seasons. Whereas to hear the precision of talking about a chef in that way just is quite funny.

28:15Charlie Eccleshare:The idea, Nick, that he sort of lost his way after that season. I don't know, his legs have gone. Did he kind of enjoy a revival around 2017, 2018? Because he could track Liverpool in this. Of course, 89-90, the last time they won the first division. Yeah, I just love the idea of things being expressed in seasons like that. Now, this came from Moos, who was enjoying PSG versus Bayern last week. John Champion on Amazon Prime comms duty. And Senny Mayulu coming on for the Will of the Wisps. Kvitsa Kvaratskelia, who has been a delight. Charlie, he says that John Champion called Kvitsa Kvaratskelia Will-o'-the-Wisp, which I think is great.

28:57Charlie Eccleshare:Does he absolutely fit the archetype for Will-o'-the-Wisp?

29:01Nick Miller:Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think technically he's actually a bit sort of bigger and broader than maybe he looks. You know, like he's quite a strong guy, but certainly his vibe is that, the way he kind of floats around the pitch. And yeah, Moes mentions Iniesta, doesn't he? who was very Will-O-The-Wispy. I mean, yeah, it does. I mean, because I was thinking it's Modric, but then I think, again, he was maybe a bit stronger. And certainly in his later career, yeah. And a bit less skilful. Like, I know he was very skilful, but that became less his game in some ways once he became this just like uber-efficient central midfielder.

29:34Charlie Eccleshare:Nick, if I say Will-O-The-Wisp to you, what kind of players are you thinking of? I've got Steve McManaman very much in mind. Yeah, it's very much that. It's a skinny winger. I mean this is a deep cut for my youth but that's I think of Gary Crosby famously incredibly sort of lightweight and skinny winger so that's the kind of thing I think of.

29:55Nick Miller:Floaty flighty yeah I also think yeah you can't be too small either I think you need to have like Modric I think he's too he's too close to the ground.

30:04Charlie Eccleshare:Willow the Wispy sort of hovers up doesn't it? Yeah I saw yeah yeah literally Dave on the money here yeah I actually never really looked into this before. It's a mysterious fleeting ghostly light seen at night over bogs, swamps and marshes. Historically believed in folklore to be mischievous spirits or fairies luring travellers astray. So yeah, does suit a winger quite nicely, but they'd have to have a sort of lightness about them, definitely. Good stuff from John Chandler. Meanwhile, in the other semi-final first leg of the Metropolitano on Five Live. And Mikel Arteta will be hoping it clicks.

30:36I've just been hit by a toilet roll.

30:43Charlie Eccleshare:Now this is right up there, Dave, with Vicky Sparks and the pigeon from a few years ago. Disappointed that John Murray didn't tell us that it was going from right to left. But I suppose it came from behind him. Well, we were right in front of that, actually. It must have come from right behind him. Wow. Yeah. What a sound effect, Nick, as it landed. It sounded like something more substantial than a mere toilet roll. I don't know whether they've weighted the toilet roll so they can get more distance on the throw. So there was a, I can't remember who it was, but there was like a sort of, someone was talking about the outrage of the great John Murray being hit by a toilet roll as if that should have been a consideration for the fans.

31:21Don't throw it there. Do you know who's sat there? He's about six foot five, Charlie. He's an easy target.

31:26Nick Miller:Yeah, very much so. Yeah, I like the idea of being like, oh yeah, we had a really bad view of that one actually. We were really blindsided by that. Chris Sutton on CoCom's there. And we just heard him mention Mikel Arteta. Now, on Sunday, when he was commentating on Hibs against Celtic, you were sending me voice notes after I posited that he is the most difficult man to imitate. The way he pronounces anything with a T in it, it's so strange. And I just, you can't do, it's so hard to recreate. Like, it's not like a T, it's more of a D. But if you just say Mikel Arteta, Arteta, Arteta, it doesn't, it's not right, is it?

32:02Nick Miller:You sound like Tyson Fury is doing too much. I'm a fight, man.

32:06Charlie Eccleshare:It's so hard to do.

32:10Charlie Eccleshare:Oh, God.

32:19Oh, look at that. That is wonderful.

32:27Right.

32:28Charlie Eccleshare:Next up, I'll be stunned if you're not aware that Sean Dyche has joined Instagram in what was a fascinatingly coordinated campaign to raise awareness of Sean Dyche. being on Instagram. Here was his opening post. Salvo. Hi there, this is Sean Dyche. Just got back to the gym. Just opening this world of social media. My daughter's been nagging the granny out of me for years. So even though I'm not far, it might be good for me. So it might be good for you. Hopefully, if you're interested. If it's TikTok dances and all that, highly unlikely. If you want to know about like modern footballers with holes in socks and avocado on toast and boached eggs, very improbable.

33:07But if you want a bit of reality about the business and insight into the business, hopefully a bit of fun along the way and some anecdotes and a bit of all that, then please consider it a done deal. If not, do one.

33:21Charlie Eccleshare:Dave, we are at Dyche saturation point already. So in that sense, a little late to be joining Insta. In the first about 12 hours or so of the Sean Dyche Insta era, I'd seen him do this video. I'd seen him bemoan holes in socks and list his favourite elements of a classic curry night. He's ticking all the boxes, Dicey. What's he trying to catch up with? I don't know. Fear for him a bit here.

33:42Nick Miller:This doesn't feel like the sort of thing he should be doing if he wants to get another Premier League job. Do you think he's accepting that he's maybe... Is that part of it? Is he sort of going, oh... I mean, he was on Talk Sport recently when they were pressing him about the Spurs job. And he basically said, I don't need the money and I don't need the hassle.

33:59Charlie Eccleshare:Oh, wow. We've posited this before on this podcast, Nick. that he is sort of moving towards a post-managerial sort of scenario in his life because I feel like he's done all the jobs that Sean Dyche would be eligible to do. Is that harsh? I don't know how much the Forrest brief spell will have kind of affected his reputation at all. But there must be, next season, surely there's going to be some team who is in trouble in November who kind of goes, all right, well, best get Dyche in. This does feel, he's maybe two steps away from the Just Eat advert, this, isn't it? It's not quite proper self-awareness.

34:35It's like someone's explained what his image is to him, and then he's kind of reacting to it. Just on a sort of relatively minor point, I was quite disappointed that he didn't, in his introductory, well, two things with his introductory thing. Firstly, it was the classic kind of grandma on FaceTime framing, where he's in the bottom third and there's just space in the top. but I also was slightly disappointed that he didn't go for the seeing what all the fuss is about yeah really annoyed when joining a new platform which I suppose classically was someone belatedly joining Twitter in about sort of 2017 or something but yeah I would have liked to have seen that

35:13Charlie Eccleshare:Charlie I wonder if it's partly because I think he already knows what the fuss is all about he's very much in a post-fuss social media entrance phase I think but one of the other clips Charlie was him declaring definitively that he would never do reality tv like i'm a celebrity for example he'll never go into the jungle he says i i never watch that kind of tv i'm into my documentaries i'm into my music i think that's a premature decision from him because i see him as very jungle very much so yeah but i mean i feel like we've had

35:41Nick Miller:these concerns about him before i mean remember he went on keys and gray in about 2022 and he was like saying you're like you're still a kind of quite well at this point especially his stock was even higher. It's like, why are you saying stuff? I mean, thankfully, I don't imagine the listenership for that was huge. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, he seems willing to lean into this, even though you would think it might put some employers off, but it doesn't seem to. So, good luck to him.

36:06Charlie Eccleshare:Avenues being left open for Sean Dyche. This next one came from Ethan James. Here's Eddie Howe blocking out the noise of his Newcastle future and focusing on what matters.

36:15Nick Miller:It's interesting how you do the job because you do the job day to day and you're looking very much day to day how can we today how can we prepare as well as we can for brighton with one eye on obviously next week and then one eye on the summer and one eye on um next season so that that's always how i've managed that's three eyes dave i guess you could get old um tindall you

36:35Charlie Eccleshare:tindall one of his eyes oh yeah maybe yeah so you've got an ice bear his eye and ear yeah poor old eddie howe um can't be fun can't be fun being eddie howe at the moment now i really enjoyed this came from Ed Quoth the Raven on our Discord. He says, I've just seen this on a local Facebook page. Next Sunday, the 10th of May, between 11am and 12pm, please come out and show your support for the under-10s as they'll be doing a few laps around the village to celebrate an amazing first season with two promotions and recently winning the league title. Please feel free to pop out as the boys go by and show your support.

37:07Charlie Eccleshare:The under-10s are doing the equivalent of an open-top bus tour of a village, Nick. This might be the town that I grew up in. Really? I recognise that name as someone who can't quite remember how he found out. That's where I grew up. But yeah, that's a small market town in Nottinghamshire. I decided not to name the town, Charlie, for no safeguarding reasons. I don't know. You don't want randoms turning up. You don't want the ultras there, do you?

37:31Nick Miller:I mean, they've put it up there. What do you mean of their rivals going to picket it and boo them? But what a season. Two promotions and they won a league title.

37:39Charlie Eccleshare:Yeah, I don't know how that's worked. I don't know what the league structure is there. But yeah, I mean, are they going to walk really slowly like a bus would go, Dave?

37:47Nick Miller:Get some flares involved, scarves around the head, a few bottles of pop. And a pop. Drop the trophy in the village pond. Just amazing. Absolutely amazing. It feels like the sort of thing the moose from Talk Sport might end up at, actually. Get him down there.

38:04Charlie Eccleshare:Gary Cotterill. My good friends. Yeah, yeah. Right, a sombre cliches duty question for you next, Charlie. It came from BeautifulSquare301 on Reddit. He says, I briefly caught Five Live earlier and they were chatting about the Hearts Rangers game. They referenced the February fixture and both of them said that Rangers won by four goals to two. It felt odd, but also fitting. When do you use the suffix goals to emphasise a scoreline? When does it make the most sense? By four goals to two just sounded right, but then odd when I thought about it. The only other I can think of is two goals to none being quite common.

38:37Charlie Eccleshare:Have I gone mad? Charlie, what is the ultimate X goals to Y scoreline? It's definitely two goals to one.

38:43Nick Miller:Like that's weirdly, for me, and it's also such a radio thing. I feel like you'd only hear this on BBC radio and they've won the game two goals to one. Yeah, that to me is just the textbook use of it. And I don't know where, like, yeah, to me it feels very old school BBC and I quite like the fact that it's carried on because you don't hear it anywhere. You'd never hear that on TV, would you? Like, oh, it's Super Sunday and it's, and it was, you know, it's two goals to one. That would just sound so weird. Oh, you may be right. I don't think you'd do it with a to nil. Two goals to nil, I think, sounds a bit weird.

39:11Nick Miller:I think you're sort of referencing the fact that there have been goals scored on both sides, aren't you?

39:16Charlie Eccleshare:Maybe. It's definitely more of a radio thing, Nick, I would say. I don't know why, but it definitely feels more radio. But unexpectedly strident answer from Charlie there. I didn't think there was going to be a standout option for this. Do you feel the same? I mean, two goals to one does feel right. What would feel mental was if he did it for a draw. Two goals to two. I mean, ludicrous. No reason not to, really, logically. Four goals to two does sound quite good, but yeah, maybe two goals to one or three goals to one, something like that. But yeah, over-engineered ways of expressing the scoreline, all for it.

39:50Charlie Eccleshare:Big week for football. The Champions League semifinals reached their denouement. And CBS Sports Galata are wheeling out David Beckham and friends again. It was so good last year. Tom Cruise, the absolute zenith of it. Here is the lineup for this year, Dave. Tom Hiddleston, Lucien Laviscount, Cole Hauser, Clint Dempsey and Fisher Stevens. I don't know if there's going to be a standout here. Hiddleston has potential to be clippable, I think.

40:16Nick Miller:Well, Hiddleston was on Sky Sports News with Roman Kemp recently and had a bit of a moment with his pressure is a privilege thing. It was amazing. It was so him and it was like, what are you doing there? What is Tom Hiddleston? And yeah, this whole thing of like, well, you know, I'm an actor and the hormone for nervousness and excitement is actually the same thing. So that's how I see it and pressure is a privilege. And they were like, whoa.

40:43Charlie Eccleshare:That's a sensational Hiddleston impression. It made my skin crawl, and that's why it wasn't on the podcast, because it was awful. But the idea, it was a really good Hiddleston impression, the idea of Hiddleston doing sort of live punditry, Nick, in the Tom Cruise role, I fear for that a little bit. Has he got the energy? He might be a bit too brooking, if you know what I think. When you're looking for Andy Gray, he might be a bit too brooking, too sort of chill. There's no way. I can't really think of anyone else who could recreate the sort of earnest intensity of Tom Cruise. Did you say Fisher Stevens was the guy who directed the Beckham documentary?

41:23Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. And also in Short Circuit, of course. That's the one. That's the one. In a regrettable. Yes. Yeah.

41:33Charlie Eccleshare:Yes. Yes. Just leave it there. What he's bringing to the table, I'm not entirely sure. And Deepa Card.

41:39Nick Miller:Don't give us extra context on Fisher Stevens, for fuck's sake. I think he plays the shrink who goes out with Phoebe in Series 1 of 5. Oh, yes. That's correct. He was also in the mid-90s film Hackers, which is an old favourite. Fair play.

41:52Charlie Eccleshare:If you're doubting the soccer credentials of Cole Hauser, the actor, he played the backup goalkeeper in Shot at Glory with Ali McCoy and Robert Duvall. He was an American backup goalkeeper for some random Scottish team. Fair play. In Lockheed.

42:06Nick Miller:Lucien Laviscount sounds like he could be a European footballer yeah yeah yeah he's a central defender in Ligue 1 closely linked with Tottenham I think I was going to say centre-back as well it's such a centre-back name

42:19Charlie Eccleshare:anyway speaking of stellar names whose football credentials are never in doubt it's time for Keys and Grey Corner

42:43Charlie Eccleshare:hard to follow up Keezy's odyssey from Qatar to Coventry via Kensington last week but here he is back safely in Doha at the weekend after his whistle stop UK tour so many bases covered here from his Doha Vista on his lovely walk. I said I wouldn't go entirely dark, so here we are. It feels weeks ago that I was at Coventry watching the Super Sky Blues. On that subject, good luck to everybody chasing what they want today. I know you can't all have it, but if you come up short, take inspiration from what Lampard and Coventry did because there's always another season. or good luck to Torquay United as well where I like to go and watch some proper football occasionally I feel like Alistair Cook Letter from America, remember that all those years ago that's what inspired me in my early days to want to go to America but no thanks, not anymore no thank you you'd have to kidnap me and that's what's happening of course to too many in the States But I thought it was fitting that King Charles gave Trump a golden bell.

44:01That's two of them then in the Oval Office at the moment. Anyway, we're down to, I think, our last. I think today's our fifth from final, climaxing with the Champions League. I'll miss this gorgeous little country. It's been a massive part of my life. It's deep in my heart. it will not be the end when it's the end it might just be the beginning in some respects but because i'll always have to come back here this this is too much to to walk away from immensely proud of what we've done boys that i came here with who have become men who have become fathers and they take much from the experience everybody here has always been so kind to me.

44:50And unlike the legacy media in the UK, I think, what was it? The son's headline, loses his job, or was that in the mail? No. We just all realised it was time. Anyway, join us later, and I hope for a good afternoon.

45:08Nick Miller:I mean, so much to enjoy here, Charlie. That's a classic. Like, that is a proper classic. That should join the annals. That kidnapping bit. I mean, just unbelievable. It's all just utter perfection from the big man.

45:21Charlie Eccleshare:It really is, Nick. And what probably set out to be quite a high-level video, sort of a bit of a Doha farewell, just an overview of what's going on at the moment, getting bogged down in the details is so good. Like the little legacy media bit, which actually I left by my own accord. Wasn't sacked. Just cannot possibly help himself with all of this. I enjoyed the golden bell bit as well. that was that was that was pretty good so yeah so so the goodbyes doha dave are almost complete and he's really teasing us with his next chapter uh halfway through his his sort of instagram travel log he says i'll go back into the shadows after this but he's not going back into the shadows he's staying in the light but where and how i can't wait to find out can you i know we

46:09Nick Miller:we await with interest but yeah i mean he's getting he's clearly getting a bit emotional isn't he for sure talking about the boys that i came here with have become fathers boys

46:19Charlie Eccleshare:the boys are back in town let's see what becomes of keys and gray in future months um thanks to you charlie eckershell all the way from rome thank you thanks to you nick miller thank you thanks to you david walker thank you thanks to everyone for listening we'll be back later in the week. See you then.

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