The Football Cliches Quiz XX: The View From The Lane

20:54James Maw:And is Molina the stocky guy I'm imagining? A bit athletic.

20:58Jack Pitt-Brooke:I think so, yeah. Disappointing. Actually, no. He doesn't look that stocky on his wiki photo. Looks like skinny. Right, second question. is the final of the Women's Euros 2022. England versus Germany. Played at Wembley. Fuck. I'm going to read out the England team with one blank. Mary Earps. Lucy Bronze. Millie Bright. Yeah. Leah Williamson. Yeah. Rachel Daly. Georgia Stanway. Yeah. Kira Walsh. Yeah. Beth Mead. Yeah. Fran Kirby. Yeah. Lauren Hemp. Yeah. blank. Wow, we could do this. Yeah, it's... Russo was a super sub back then, right? I've completely forgotten her name, but it's the striker who's doing the punchy for the BBC.

21:45Oh, yeah, Ellen White. Yeah. Ellen White was sort of kept faith with, even though she didn't score. Russo was the Azumang of 2022, right? Super sub, yeah. It all fits together. I'm pretty sure it's Ellen White. It's definitely her. Unless she missed it through suspension or injury, which I don't think she did. Ellen White.

22:01Jack Pitt-Brooke:Ellen White is correct. Yes! 1-1. Russo and Chloe Kelly were indeed super subs. Love that. We're going to go eight years back in time to the final of the 2014 World Cup. Germany's team, which of course beat... Eight years back? What did I say? Eight years back from 2022? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Germany team, which beat Argentina, starting 11 in the Maracanar. Here we go. Manuel Neuer, Philipp Lahm, Jérôme Boiteng, Matt Hummels, Benedict Houvadez, Blank, Bastian Schweinsteiger Tony Kroos Thomas Muller Miroslav Klose Mesut Ozil It's Kadira isn't it? Kadira Oh Okay Because in my head It was the guy who got knocked out And couldn't remember the rest of the game Kramer

22:45James Maw:That was over days No Kramer Kramer Kramer was the guy who got knocked out actually Don't you remember? So it was a huge story He couldn't remember the rest of the game But I can't think what other game that could have been So it must have been the 2014 No no that was that game Yeah so where was Kadira? Was he suspended or something? Maybe So there's no Kadira there? No Did he play in the World Cup Final? Kedira wasn't mentioned. Whoa, it was a huge story. Christoph Kramer got knocked out. Yeah, it was. He got taken off. But did he come on as a sub and do it? But that didn't happen, did it? So, but then did he start the World Cup Final?

23:12Kedira must have been suspended. But then the semi-final wasn't fraught with danger.

23:16James Maw:I think he was a surprise inclusion for some reason. He got... Kramer. There's no other game that this happened, right? Because that was in the first half, wasn't it, that he went off? Yeah, yeah. Should we go for Christoph Kramer? Yeah. That's our answer. Christoph Kramer is correct. Good one.

23:28Jack Pitt-Brooke:fuck he did get he started on concussed footballers lads he did get subbed off after um i was really honest with it's really bleak i was really on his wikipedia page like he he got concussed he came back on and then he said to the ref is this the final and then the ref had to go to schweinsteiger and say have a word yeah and off he off he went so yeah kramer is correct so you guys are ahead already kadira injured his calf in the warm-up huh anyway right we're gonna go back to the final of of the 2010 World Cup. This is the Dutch team that lost to Spain at Soccer City. Martin Stecklenburg, Gregory van der Veel, John Heitinger, Blank, Giovanni van Bronckhorst, Mark van Bommel, Nigel de Jong, Arjen Robben, Wesley Schneider, Dirk Kaut, Robin van Persie.

24:16Jack Pitt-Brooke:Centre-back then.

24:17James Maw:Centre-back with Johnny Heitinger. Heitinger seems to me to be the more passive of a centre-back partnership to me. Was it big Ron Vlaar? oh I like it I do like Ron Vlaar who were the sort of dominant Dutch centre backs of that time because Stan would have gone by then wouldn't he yes and we were pre-Van Dijk obviously yeah and De Boer was gone Vlaar ticks the boxes for being the big lump alongside Heitinger what about was yeah who were some of those other sort of like Baumer he was kind of knocking around then but he wouldn't have been he wouldn't have started centre back Vlaar was definitely in that squad was Van Bommel said sorry in the he was starting he played midfield Sneaky Villeneuve might have been 2014 that's too late for Vlar right Vlar was Hoffland's gone by then Hoffland I think he was out he was out of the picture by then he burned brightly but I quite like Vlar I like Vlar for this I'm alright if I get it wrong because we've guessed a great name also crucially Ron Vlar feels like a sort of name that Jack Pitbrook would be slightly preoccupied by Ron Vlar a legend when did he go to Villa soon after he got to move on the back of the tournament didn't he?

25:26James Maw:Didn't he? Possibly. Sounds about right. Let's go Ron Vlar.

25:29Jack Pitt-Brooke:We're going to go for Ron Vlar, Jack. Great logic, but no. The correct answer is Joris Matysson. Fair play. If I'd been guessing, if I'd been on your side of this, I would have guessed Vlar, totally.

25:41James Maw:Matysson, yeah. Forgettable player.

25:44Jack Pitt-Brooke:Yeah, very forgettable. Wow. Never had a shit spell in England, I think is why. Yeah. Right, question five. Going back ten years to the final of Euro 2000. Right. This is the France team that played Italy in the final in Rotterdam. Fabian Barthez, Lillian Thuram, Marcel Desailly, Laurent Blanc, Vicente Lizarazu, Patrick Vieira, Didier Deschamps, Yuri Diocaev, Zinedine Zidane, Thierry Henry, blank.

26:11James Maw:Well, Perez came on, didn't he? I'm pretty sure he's who set up... Yeah, because he sets up Trezeguet's goal, but I think he came on. I'm not sure he started that game. Wiltord scored the equaliser. and so Anelka they wouldn't have been him and Trezeguet on would they? and there was Anelka knocking around that team as well I don't want to complicate matters but I did make a Bernard Diamed quip about 10 minutes ago it's not Bernard Diamed he wasn't still there by the Euros I don't think so he was in the World Cup 98 squad but not 2000 yeah he couldn't have started that game I think either Perez or Wiltord did Perez start?

26:48James Maw:right in your wheelhouse this Charlie yeah they both moved to Arsenal that summer in a roundabout way kind of proving their theory correct because this is Charlie's photographic Arsenal memory failing when it gets to the international level. Arsenal, what? Which of them would have started? Wilton's so super subby though, isn't he? Yeah, I think Wilton would have come. We're looking for somebody who's been played up front here, aren't we? Just based on the readout of the formation. I think they played a sort of front three. Just read out the midfield and attack again, Jack.

27:21Jack Pitt-Brooke:So after the back five, it's Patrick Vieira, Didier Deschamps, Yurid Yochaev, Zilindin Zidane, Thierry Henry, blank.

27:31James Maw:Anelka started earlier in the tournament, but then he sort of got phased out a little bit. I'm just thinking unless they did something clever. They had so many good attackers then. Was Perez a surprise starter? Like it would have been a surprise. I think it's Viltor. He scored. We know that. We know he scored. So let's go with that. Yeah, I guess I'm more inclined towards that. two substitute scoring and are we saying and Trezeguet we're saying definitely came on as well because he scored he scored the winner I like him as a sub possible he started no I like him as a sub as well go on Charlie it's your call no yeah it is no I'm taking it away from Charlie he's real told he's too he's too worried about getting it wrong just go for real told no I think Perez oh no alright Adam it's over to you Adam it's your choice I always back Charlie in these situations and I know what's going to happen don't you always yeah it's Robert Perez never wanted us to be wrong so much it's Robert Perez

28:27Jack Pitt-Brooke:I'm going to assume that's the final answer it's not Robert Perez it's not Sylvain Wiltor it's not Nicholas Anelka it is it's not David Trezeguet it is Christophe Dugary oh my god

28:43James Maw:that is insane that's great though that's literally Egg on all our faces there. Duggery started that game. Yeah, that was so... God, they had options there. Fucking hell. Are you doing your pundit voice there? I'm not sure. Anyway, at the end of that round, it's cliches two, view from the lane one, an attritional affair. Great questions. Well done to everyone. Right, this episode is brought to you in association with NordVPN. For those who don't know, VPN sends a virtual private network. It secures your connection, protecting your personal information and online activity, especially on public Wi-Fi.

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32:15Welcome back to the Clichés Quiz 20, a tense battle already. Clichés lead, View From The Lane, two points to one, as we head into the second round, which is the audio round. View From The Lane, here are your five audio questions, starting with this. Who is this dubbed into Portuguese? Mas eu sempre lembro de algo quando me aposentei. and there was a statement that I always remember as a football player. Leave the football before the football leave you. The football left you.

33:10as a footballer, leave the football before the football leaves you. The football's left them. He's really convincing Portuguese guy, isn't he, Jamie Carragher? It really works. The Scouts twang really came through as well, which helped. Lovely stuff. Right, you've pulled it back to 2-2 already. Question two in the audio round. Who is Richard Keyes talking about here? But no better way to finish than in the company of the man who's now shaping football. Can I see? would he be called the grandfather of football maybe i would like to think the father of football the father of football yes i don't think we've quite reached that uh senior stage but i am very very happy to say yes our guest for this last program is wenger so i think like wenger is so

34:00Jack Pitt-Brooke:to me he's so obvious that i almost wonder if it's a bluff because wenger is shaping football Wenger could be described as the father or grandfather of football obviously Wenger's no stranger to a B in sports studio then we shouldn't overthink it I think danger of overthinking it if he's the obvious answer my one my one thought was whether it was someone of kind of Kesey's generation and that was why he said father not grandfather but I think you're I think you're right Jack it probably is Wenger I can't think I'm trying to think of a if that's if it is a bluff who who might an alternative answer be you're saying Peter Reid is not shaping football who is who is who is a manager who they would be mates with who in any way could be said to be shaping football i can't i just can't think of one it's got to be yeah let's go with wenger i i think that's my first thought you're going for arson wenger let's find out but i am very very happy to say that our guest for this last program is arson wenger yes well done lads Dan Kilpatrick calling us simpletons in the process, which is nice.

35:08But you lead 3-2 as we go into question three. Well done. Who is this dubbed into French?

35:49Who was that dubbed into French?

35:52Jack Pitt-Brooke:Is that just one voice? Because it sounds like a conversation between two people.

36:08oh i know what it is i know what it is bollocks let's wait for that this is this is the 2010 if i was for the zelers in the background i was going to make a joke about them being uh transposed with like french instruments but i currently work out what the french instrument should be for the joke but are they for the zelers in the background is it the 2010 world card

36:27Jack Pitt-Brooke:who was that he's clearly i mean you're right you can hear the vuvuzelas and he's clearly he's talking about like jabi alonso and a tackle and like did a tackle win the ball so it's clearly the the the quote is i believe it's mark lawrenson being explained who had won man of the match in a game and it was voted for by people online and i think laura calls them nerds so it's mark lawrenson and the bbc commentator whose name i now can't remember right which bbc commentator is it what as in who would have commentated the 2010 final for the I don't know whether it's a final no because I think he's talking about he's talking about Spain and he's talking about Alonso and a tackle that won the ball so could he not have been talking about Nigel de Jong I was talking about de Jong yeah I think he's talking about I think he's talking about Nigel de Jong don't need to get what he's talking about you just need the people who's the BBC commentator?

37:15would Lauro not have been in the studio then or would he have been on co-coms?

37:19Jack Pitt-Brooke:I think he was on co-coms with who would have done it? would it have been Guy Mowbray? 2010 could it have been Motti? when did he die?

37:30after 2010 always a good starting point I think he'll work backwards from that he's older than 32 we know that much

37:37Jack Pitt-Brooke:yeah I reckon Laura and Motti or Laura and A and Other we can't have A and Other you've got to have a name it's not Motti maybe it is Mowbray I think you can almost hear it I have a feeling it's another BBC commentator's name I can't remember and Adam you're already telling me all the commentators listen to this so he's probably listening I'm not that good on commentators you guys will have to guess. This really is Charlie's wheelhouse. Yeah, go on James. Yeah, come on Charlie, who is it?

38:02James Maw:I did get this when Adam Tess asked us yesterday. If you're asking. Is it Braverton? Is he the other BBC commentator or is he Sky? Braverton's a bit niche. My vote would be Motti. He was still the big cheese. We need an answer please. I'm at Arrow, isn't he?

38:18Jack Pitt-Brooke:You'd be able to tell it was Motti. Yeah, I would go against Motti. I would go for Loro and maybe Mowbray. Yeah, I'd be inclined with that Yeah, let's go with that Walkman out in the Spain XI And that he doesn't play for Barcelona or Real Madrid Or that he's not very good You can say that Just did Oh, it's a joke, it's a great tackle this by I think it's Xavi Alonso He wins the ball What's wrong with that? You're supposed to say nothing I am saying nothing I'm sorry Guy, I think Spain need to change it's powder puff at the moment you're right fine

39:02thanks for asking yes that is Guy Mowbray and Mark Lawrenson in the 2010 World Cup having what was perceived as a ongoing tiff on air you didn't get the subject matter right but that doesn't matter it doesn't matter you lead 4-2 as we go into question four of the audio round you're three for three already question four who is richard keys talking about here well he's probably worth in an open marketplace he's probably worth a hundred and what 20 no he's must be what he's worth more than harry keen he's 21 22 so he might be andy but so was jayden sanko and he's done nothing no no this is a different category i still think there's a it's not a gamble no no i think we're into the unknown here i don't think he has yet proven that he is the real deal.

39:49I just think that he has got some work to do. He has. And that the jury is having a conversation.

39:56Jack Pitt-Brooke:Mbappe. Well, there's only so many players it can be, right? It can only... I'd be surprised if it's someone who's not Mbappe, Bellingham or Haaland. I reckon it's someone English, because I feel like that's normally their frame of reference. But all the other players I mentioned that were English, weren't they? And it was Kane, Sancho. So Bellingham maybe would be my... Jadon Sanko, as Keezy called him. He insists on doing it to the point where you think he must have been given some inside information. Otherwise, why would you carry on doing it? I don't think it actually... I think it's not Mbappe.

40:22Jack Pitt-Brooke:Mbappe is a bit older than that. He's not been 21 for a while.

40:27James Maw:That's funnier than Izzy did. Been ages since he was 21.

40:30Jack Pitt-Brooke:I haven't been 21 for ages, mate. Yeah, I would say Bellingham or maybe Harlan. Did Bellingham move the same summer as Kane or the summer after? Bellingham moved summer 21. Kane moved... No, so to Madrid. Oh, no, it's summer 22, Bellingham. No, summer 21. No, I think it was more recent than that, wasn't it? No, he's done two seasons at Real only. So 2023, all miles off. That is the same summer as Kane. Maybe it is Bellingham. But then would you be talking about his potential value? Surely they could only be talking about, they wouldn't be talking about that after he'd moved to Real Madrid, right?

41:03Jack Pitt-Brooke:But Bellingham was born in 2003, so he wouldn't have been 21 in 2023. When Bellingham moved, he was still 19. The Haaland then? because Haaland's more of a direct comparison with Kane, isn't he? Both centre forwards. But then he also mentions... But when was he? Yeah. Haaland moved in 2023. I don't know how old he was at that point. I would guess older than 21. How old is Cole Palmer? How old is Cole Palmer? Palmer is a sort of 2002 birthday, I think. All right, Fabrizio Romano.

41:34James Maw:Yeah, 2002 born Talon. What is the state of you? I reckon I reckon I reckon it could be Cole Palmer I quite like Palmer

41:44Jack Pitt-Brooke:I think Palmer is actually it's not Mbappe I don't think it's Bellingham I think it's probably likely to be Palmer than Haaland so I think Palmer is a good answer Palmer feels more like they would be saying he's still got to prove himself as well I think shall we yeah go for Cole Palmer the answer is Erling Haaland oh shit as he moved from Dortmund to Manchester City. Right, it remains 4-2 as we go to your final audio question. What famous quote is this dubbed into Russian? I prefer M not to say. If I say, I will have big problems. Big problems. And I don't want to be in big problems. It's clearly Mourinho.

42:32Jack Pitt-Brooke:JP has just put his hand up like he's in school. No, you know why? because of Dave bollocking us earlier about talking over each other. Fine, agreed. That's why. So it's clearly Mourinho, and I think it's weird. Portuguese and Russian sound weirdly similar anyway, but I think it is Jose, and I think you can hear him say, like, problema or something. So I would say, if I speak, I'm in big trouble. That would be my guess. Ooh, nice. Happy with it. You're going with Jose Mourinho, if I speak. Yep. Let's hear it. I prefer really not to speak. if I speak I am in in big trouble in big trouble and I don't want to be in big trouble very good what's the weird music behind that clip listen mate needs must alright is it Premier League is it cut out Premier League isn't that why it was some other video called Mourinho's wackiest quote that's the depth you have to get to when you're at 1am the night before right a sterling effort from View from the Lane possibly a cliché's quiz record of 4 out of 5 for the audio round that's exceptional work great logic again you lead five two let's have your audio round please so my thinking was you guys you know you're all very knowledgeable football men but in terms of music i'm not so i'm not so sure i've got to be honest i'm not so sure so we have got here five songs recorded by footballers and i want you to tell me who the footballing vocalist is you don't need the name of the song.

44:02I mean, if you want to give it, then fine. But we don't need that. We're going five out of five here, lads, I'm telling you. And here's the first clip.

44:16Here we go. The world is waiting. The giant sleeps. A dream awakes. One ride. Hope and pride, yeah. We'll do it. Get through it. You're on your knees. and you are praying the hand of god and what might be you're believing it you're breathing

44:38Jack Pitt-Brooke:it the tears of joy the nation will dream i haven't heard this before eltel to me it sings like the kind of thing you would like listen to i've heard him singing live before but like you know crooning about over a different track but i haven't heard this particular song before but it's it's eltel but we think it's venables yeah it's terry venables for certain yeah so it must been a song that he did before a world cup maybe in like 06 or or maybe even 2010 i don't know but yeah it is terry venables england crazy really when was it released james was 2002 world cup

45:11James Maw:maybe but it was a bit more because that was when he became leeds manager wasn't it yeah it was the 2002 world cup yeah which was kind of that must have been quite close proximity to his lead stint Yeah, he got appointed that summer. Wow. Off the back of this. Off the back of this. He impressed his displays. If anyone's going to be impressed by something like that, it wouldn't be. You know what, let's get this out. He tripled his salary as a result. David O 'Leary could never. Five, three. Clip two. Roll the tape, Dave. Not the dancing gun. But I want to. Not the dancing gun. But I wanna be with you People hurry What they're worried for

46:07Hear some music Start the feelings That's the dancing kind it's called not the dancing kind and that really rings a bell this i i i don't record this song at all but now i've understood how have you worked that because they kept singing it the chorus was not the dancing kind and now it's on the tip of my brain um okay just as a starting point

46:35James Maw:john fashionu just as someone who was fingers in lots of pies and i feel like once you've branched out a little bit often those types of people then like yeah fuck it i could probably do a song as well i don't believe so i don't think he ever ventured into music honestly okay but this sort of era the era is definitely right i think it's sort of late 80s 90s but not mid to late 90s so it's around the turn of the 80s and 90s 80s and 80s um not the dance okay and is there any who is it i mean it's not john barnes it doesn't sound like him paul parker do you want me to give you a clue they're not all spurs related are they go on yeah give us a clue yeah this person is one of the great Premier League imports?

47:16Oh, Rude Hullet. Oh, it's Rude Hullet. It's Rude Hullet. Thanks, James. Fuck. Yeah, that's it. It matches the title. Now I know who it is. It's Rude Hullet. Is that your final answer? Yes. Yeah, it's Rude Hullet. Thank you, mate. Sorry, Jack. Appreciate it, James. You're facing a mutiny for me and Jack for that clue. Really passed the ball across my own six-yard picture. Yeah, I really thought

47:39James Maw:when James said you want a clue he'd be setting that up so he could give us something entirely unhelpful. and then he did that. So great. Thanks, James. Okay, the score is 5-4 to view from the lane. Let's have our third question, please.

48:14We've got a feeling Foulos et mamas Saga, saga dance Foulos et mamas Drogba did some music, didn't he, at some point? There was some French speaking in there. Yeah, it was French. I just wanted to know what you guys thought. Do you want both names, James, or just one? Oh, yeah, sorry. Two names, yes. It's Basil Bolley and Chris Waddle. Oh, wow. Fair play. Is that your final answer? Yeah, I think it's the B-side. I can't remember if this is the B-side to their single or the single itself, but yeah, it's Basil Bolley and Chris Waddle. we got a feeling.

48:43James Maw:Before our time, Dave. It must be a single because there's a very good video to it on YouTube. So yeah, check that out. Yeah, but that is correct. Well done, Adam. Lovely stuff. We have drawn level at 5-5. Let's have the fourth clip, please, Dave.

49:09I think I've got it Go for it It's Clint Dempsey I think it's Clint Dempsey too Deuce Charlie do you think it's Clint Dempsey? Let's go with Deuce Clint Dempsey is correct This is a nightmare I thought you'd find this much harder underestimate us your peril there's only so many there's only so many songs sung by footballers ultimately isn't there that's true i know you're all over those listicles i know that much uh right let's have number five this is definitely the hardest one

50:13What can I just say, before you ask about the lyrics, I have tried to find them online and couldn't find them, which is maybe an indication of the level we're looking at here. Any thoughts, guys?

50:22James Maw:No. um i mean great of its time sort of music so i thought when it when we first heard it i thought maybe gareth ainsworth that was my plan because he's famously a bit of a rocker i don't know if he's actually released any music though no he was in a band oh no i see what you mean to what just played live but didn't release music yeah yeah um other thought i had the nottingham forest guy yeah Paul McGregor. I think it's him. They definitely released music. His band was called something absurd. It was like an abstract noun that probably sounded like a cool idea for a band name, but ultimately really shit.

50:59I think two things about Gareth Ainsworth's band. They didn't release any music, I don't think. And I think they were just a bit sort of messier, a bit sort of, this is a bit more kind of synthy. And Paul McGregor's music was more like that, I understand. So I think if we're in agreement, let's go for mid-90s Nottingham Forest, waif Paul McGregor I can confirm the song was Sex War Sex Cars Sex by Ulterior featuring Paul McGregor I take it back it was an adjective but it's fine I'd be applauding if I wasn't holding my phone to record my audio

51:36James Maw:Fair play Great questions Paul McGregor That's not gone as planned After the audio round then Did we get all five then? Fair play We really stepped up It's 7-5 to cliches, and we'll be back very shortly with round three.

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53:38Welcome back to the Football Clichés Quiz 20. Tent times indeed as we go into the final third round. Clichés lead 7-5. Still all to play for. Come on, lads. We need a big clear-headed round here. And your final round view from the lane will be happy hunting grounds, as is tradition. Some technical matters to take care of. No answers from the 2024-25 season that's just gone will be accepted. And whilst we took on board the feedback from Adam Hicken, who said that not giving any points for getting the year wrong was too harsh. You should go half points if they get a year either side. Well, we think that might dilute the experience.

54:18So we're sticking with it. It's all or nothing. You have to get the goal scorer and the season correct in Happy Hunting Grounds. I'm going to give you the choice of difficulty levels of one to three and then give you a commensurate combination of club and stadium in the Premier League era. You have to tell me who has scored for that club at that stadium and in which season. Right, you trail 7-5. For question one, will you go for level one, two or three? My view is that unless it's Spurs, I'm going to be equally crap at all levels. So we might as well go for level three. Wow. I was just going to say, let's go two each time, just straight down the middle and then see what we get.

54:57Different approaches.

54:58Jack Pitt-Brooke:What do you think, Jack? I don't have an opinion. Will you go for the honest and ambitious approach of Dan Kilpatrick or the playing the averages approach of James Moore? James, you're captain. You get to decide. How about we go for a couple of twos first and if we're doing well, we get bold and do some threes. Okay, like it, yeah. Right. We'll start with a two. Level two for question one then. You're level two for two points. Aston Villa at Goodison Park right instantly I'm thinking of that mad game in

55:322008 2009 where Ashley Young scored it was like maybe Everton came back from 2-0 down to 2-2 and then Villa won in the last minute or something like that

55:44Jack Pitt-Brooke:was that the famous one where O 'Neill had his arms around Young at the end that's an unnecessary detail I know but I remember watching it on telly and at the end I think O 'Neill was like walking around the pitch with his arm around Ashley Young as you would do if you scored an injury time winner in a dramatic game I'm very confident of this and like the cameras were right up in his face I'm very confident I think that's a really good shout so that's Young 8-9 right that was still like when O 'Neill's Villa were good yeah so we're saying Ashley Young 2008-2009 Ashley Young 2008-09 that day it was Everton 2 Aston Villa 3 goal scorers for the Villains that day Steve Sidwell and at the double Ashley Young that was brilliant James I was nowhere near that well done Martin O 'Neill calling Ashley Young a genius on the pitch at the end yeah the happy hunting grounds algorithm throwing up Aston Villa at Goodison Park for the second consecutive quiz astonishing scenes not the top 20 got the goal scorer but not the year but you got them both for a level two.

56:50So you've drawn level at seven all. Question two then, view from the lane. What level are you going for? One, two or three? So we've got two again, yeah. You're going two again. Right, your question, your combination is Liverpool at the London Stadium. I mean, there was a game that Liverpool won like kind of five nil or six nil. Was that this season just gone though? So maybe, yeah, we can't have that one. Should we play the averages? Reminder that you've got to get the goal scorer and yeah, bang on to get the points. i.e. Salah in the last few years. In a year where West Ham was shit.

57:21Jack Pitt-Brooke:Going for Salah in either 18-19 or 21-22 when they were both, or, sorry, or 19-20. In all three of those seasons, they were so good. I'd say our chances of landing would be quite high, but I can't think of, I don't have a specific memory. Nor do I, so I would vote we'd have to play the average on one of the Salah good seasons. Shall we go 19-20 then? That feels like the best playing of the percentages. Yes. You're going for Mo Salah, 19-20. Yep. West Ham United, nil. Liverpool, two. Goalscorers that day. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. And Mohamed Salah. Yeah. If you got 18-19, you'd been wrong. If you'd gone 20-21, you would have been correct.

58:01If you'd gone 21-22, you would have been wrong. So good navigating of the asteroid belt of happy hunting grounds there. Another two points to you. You lead 9-7 as we go into question three. What difficulty level would you like now? Well, we've got our confidence up. yeah we have let's bring it back down to earth by going for free and getting it wrong okay right you're going for a level three it's liverpool again at the vitality stadium play the percentages would he what would no i don't think that is playing the percentages i for salar is it because he joined in 2017 when did they oh vitality sorry i was thinking it was swansea bournemouth yeah

58:37Jack Pitt-Brooke:they've been there for a while what was that famous like 4-3 game there when bournemouth had just come up oh yeah bournemouth one though right and for me no maybe for me for me no yeah i think early in that's it early in that season i think when people were still kind of going on about liverpool not being able to control games and defend exactly yeah so it was like early so it wasn't it wasn't i don't think it was the club half season 15 16 i think it was yeah i think i think you're right and i think it was i forgot that who's that annoying little scottish winger is it Fraser Ryan Fraser the winner is that right yeah I think so but I I'm just trying to think the Liverpool goals I don't actually remember the Liverpool goals scores in that game I kind of think maybe Firmino and Lallana Firmino and Lallana Firmino and Lallana feel like the kind of safest bets shall we say let's say Firmino yeah Firmino Firmino 16-17 is their answer yeah we're going for Roberto Firmino 2016-17 you were correct it was Bournemouth 4 Liverpool 3 three goal scorers for the visitors that day.

59:42Sadio Mane, Divock Origi, and Emre Can. Ah, no! We were going to say Emre Can. Why did you just go for Mo fucking Salah? What's wrong with you? He scored pretty much every time at the Vitality Stadium, bar a couple. So, astonishing scenes. I can't believe you missed that one out.

1:00:00Jack Pitt-Brooke:We should have just gone Salah and then like a season in Liverpool were good. We should have done the same thing twice. Don't let it corrupt your thinking for the rest of this quiz. You remain 9-7 ahead. question four what difficulty level would you like should we go back to two or do we really like this but towers between our legs back to two does that seem it right yeah let's do that level two Arsenal at Ewood Park Henri at some point well that hasn't I mean when did Blackburn went down in what 2013 so it's not happened for a while 20 yeah 2013 Steve King 2012 2012 maybe I think this is huge I think this is potentially I don't think this is what we should say I have the feeling and this would have been 11-12 I think I think you know like Arsenal signed all those players after they got smacked by Man United like Arteta I think they might have won at Ewood like a couple of weeks after that and I think Arteta might have scored Arteta would be a big call I'm looking at Charlie for any kind of flickers yeah that was our point about really I'm going to

1:01:01James Maw:turn my video off big call I mean it feels like we should just go with Henri and one of the Marri's I'm absolutely voting Henri just at one of the seasons

1:01:08Jack Pitt-Brooke:I think based on last time's failure, if we went for Henry, like, when, hold on, when did Blackburn come back up? 2001? 2002? Two, yeah, 2001, I think, yeah. So if we go for like Henry 03-04, for example, do you think that would be the percentage guess? I just want to think of, if I can think of watching a, I can't, again, I don't know specificity about that. I can remember that one, there was no one where Jakub, who scored a hat-trick or something, but I just can't think he would have scored for Arsenal in that game. And now I'm wondering if that was in that 11-12 season, actually. One lad. Henry 0102, or 0-3-0-4?

1:01:40Yeah, I think maybe let's go. 3-4 is safer. Yeah, let's go Henri 3-4. Henri 0-3-0-4. Blackburn 0, Arsenal 2. Goal scorers that day are Robert Perez and Thierry Henri.

1:01:50James Maw:It's a free kick. It was also the game that he nicked the ball out of Friedel's hands and scored and it was disallowed, if you remember that. Yeah, that's naughty. Charlie, was I right about Arteta? You were, yeah. Oh my God! That would have been really good. But that was also the Okubu game you were thinking. Oh wow! Blackburn 1 at 4-3. Arteta. Let's move over, Charlie. There's a new Arsenal expert in town. Seems to be. View from the lane, you lead 11 points to 7. You could really set your stall out here with question 5. What level are you going to go for? We could consolidate at this point with a 1, but I don't really want to do that.

1:02:26We've done well with the 2s. I think it makes sense just to do another 2. I think the 2s are the right place for us. Yeah, we'll go with another 2, please, Adam. We'll be going for 2. Your question is... Chelsea at the Stadium of Light.

1:02:38Jack Pitt-Brooke:Weirdly, the Chelsea at the Stadium of Light. I can think of one. Go on. I think Hazard definitely scored in a game where Chelsea won like 4-1 or 4-0 or something. But I can't think which season that would have been. Annoyingly. So he joined in 2012. When did something go down ages after that? 2017. 2017, wasn't it? So, I mean, it gives you five seasons to play with. Russian roulette. Who scored the Chelsea goal in that 4-1? You know that one where Quinn and Phillips both scored twice? Who scored the goal for Chelsea? Maybe it was 4-0. Let's not do this. Let's not Roberto Firmino this. I think Hazard is a really good bet.

1:03:17Jack Pitt-Brooke:It's just a case of choosing the season. I'd almost go to the second season, 13-14 maybe. I'd say the Jose title season, right? 13-14. Yeah, okay. Yeah, based on our previous successes, I'd go Hazard or Jogba in one of the seasons where they were good. because it's Chelsea there aren't loads of prolific goals it's not like there's an Henri or a Salah it is like the goals are more evenly spread so yeah shall we say Hazard 14-15 is that what we're saying no yeah 14-15 sorry 14-15 is when they're in the league isn't it yeah under Jose you're going for Eden Hazard 14-15 yep if you've gone for 13-14 ah shit Sunderland 3 Chelsea 4 Eden Hazard at the double you've got the points 14-15 Chelsea's title winning season under Jose Mourinho Sunderland 0 Chelsea 0

1:04:10that is huge you end your third round 11-7 ahead it's time for the final round for football cliches please um so I'll also read out our last questions or question and that's mainly because our old friend danny kelly quote-unquote double booked i had to pull out at the last minute so yeah dan isn't prepped with a round of questions so look i mean charlie our old friend our former view from the lane colleague as we know is a big big tennis buff so our last question is one question that we're calling the carlos alcaraz challenge and what i need from you are the names of 15 Wimbledon winners, male or female, who share a surname with a Premier League player, past or present.

1:05:04Wow. The twist is, get one wrong, you're out of there.

1:05:09James Maw:That's a great question. So they just need to have played in the Premier League? Just to clarify. And one Wimbledon. One Wimbledon. Men or women, Wimbledon winners in history that share their names with Premier League players in history. Surnames. Yeah, but not Carlos Alcaraz because I've given you that one already. Wow. Yeah, that was going to be my first answer. Okay. Right, well, Nadal didn't play in the Premier League, Miguel Angel, but I don't think any Nadals did either. So there must have been a Murray, right? Yes, Matt Murray of Wolves, goalkeeper. Yep. And that was in the Premier League era, he wasn't just knocking around the champo.

1:05:42Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, definitely. So we're going to go for a couple of promoted, yeah. Yeah, let's go for Matt Murray, which I don't think he's even our top answer, really, is it? But yeah, Matt Murray. Correct. You also could have had Glenn Murray. Oh, yes, of course.

1:05:53James Maw:Niche. There must have been a Williams. there must be a Williams who's the Forrest that fullback Nico Williams there's Darren Williams there's Defso yeah that's definitely one right James correct I've got Paul Williams written here oh yeah but yes the score is 9-11 I'll go for Alison Becker ooh great shout assuming no Brazilian name funny business but alright with that alright with Becker yep I will accept Alison Becker it's on my line so we need two more to win the quiz right but if you get one wrong you're gone cry check no has there been a Paul Henman didn't win Wimbledon though famously yeah has there been a Premier League Connors don't think so Connors okay has there been a Premier League Ash McEnroe no McEnroe no Borg no Navratilova.

1:06:55I would much prefer you to work sort of reverse chronological here, Charlie. Graf.

1:07:00James Maw:Reverse go more recent names. Sort of start recent, go back. Okay. Well, there haven't been many male winners. There's just been Alcaraz and then the big four. Yeah, that's just why. And then Hewitt. Yeah, ticking them off. And then that's 2002. So let's just check there. No Nadal, no Djokovic, obviously. No Federer. Great question. Then 90s. You've got Sampras, Krejcik. Agassiz. Has there been a schtick? Agassi. Schtick, no. I can't have been an Agassi. Ivanezowicz. I think we're looking for plain named women here, you know. Wade. Wade. Has there been a Wade? Premier League Wade. Evett. Has there been a Premier League Evett?

1:07:42James Maw:Evett. It's not spelt. So it had to be spelt the same, James. It's E-V-E-R-T. I mean, Evett and Evat is not the same, is it? Let's face it. Yeah, you can't have that. Kind of Ian Evatt. No. Of Blackpool fame. Oh, wait, hold on. Conchita Martinez in 94. There's been a Martinez, obviously. Oh, Sanchez Vicario. Can we have Vicario? Sanchez and Vicario. Well, hold on. Let's just bank Martinez. Yeah, Martinez. That's it. Please, James. Well, you need to give me the name of a Premier League player, please, Charlie. Emi Martinez. Yeah, that'll do. 11-0. We need one more. What about Arantxa Sanchez Vicario, then?

1:08:19James Maw:Well, I don't think that's not a... I think we can get an actual one. It's two in one though, isn't it? Yeah. No, we won't have that. I like it though. Yeah, it's good. And she also, she never won Wimbledon. Ah, fucking hell. Really? Wow. Two finals. That's mad. 95, 96. This is classic. Charlie's in absolute ecstasy here. Tennis. And gets to explain stuff to people. Right. Rafter. There's no rafters, is there? Never won Wimbledon. Matty Cash! That's what I was thinking of. That's what I was thinking of. Yeah. The Australian. They are interchangeable. Matty Cash Patty Cash It's painful for of all the Premier League players for it to be Matty Cash to defeat Spurs but yeah that is correct that is so cruel top top top quizzing from you do you want to do you want to carry on giving me names to 15 potential answers oh there are loads there are way more than that go on Charlie reel some more off and we'll call it quits erm well King Billie Jean King there's obviously been like Joshua Josh King Ledley come on Ledley no betraying another dagger yeah no we don't have to keep doing it Smith Jones yeah you could have had what Roy Emerson nice who else have we got here I mean yeah there are Gibsons Newcomb Smiths Watsons Perry Chris Perry Chris Perry Chris Perry was a good one Lindsay Davenport Lindsay and Callum Davenport Oh, nice!

1:09:50This is top class! We'll do Formula One drivers or something for the next one. I mean, we could have been about 20 points ahead and still lost this quiz. I think for Meno and Hazard, this could have made it very interesting indeed. But what a good quiz. Really, really enjoyable. 12-11 we win, but I think it was a little bit, not quite as close as the score might suggest. V from the lane, really pleased to have you. How do you feel? Not too bad. Enjoyed it. I'm proud. Jack Pitbrook speaking with the sort of philosophy of a man who I suspect is going to have another crack at this pod v pod quiz in the near future if he can get his arse in gear.

1:10:29Not my arse needs to be here. Thanks to you, Dan Kilpatrick. Pleasure. Thank you. Thanks to you, James Moore, the quiz master. Thank you. Thanks to you, Charlie Eccleshare. Thank you. Thanks to you, Dave Walker. Thank you. And thank you to View from the Lane for picking a strangely generous Charlie Eccleshare based question for the last round cheers yeah thanks guys surprisingly easy going from you guys um thanks to everyone for listening we'll be back on tuesday see you then

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