The Football Cliches Quiz XXIV: Cliches vs The Sweeper - The Rematch

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24:56Charlie Eccleshare:I just oh that's annoying I mean I mean again good marks for showing are working but not the right answer yeah I mean Zhao Charlie come up with a Portuguese surname please I mean all I can think of is Pinto Zhao Pinto Zhao Pinto It's pretty close, I reckon. It is pretty close. It's Pico Lopez. That's very, very difficult to pluck a random Portuguese-sounding footballer out of the air. But you nearly did it. Pico Lopez, born in Ireland, plays for Shamrock Rovers. He was written about extensively as well. In 2018, he received a LinkedIn DM from the former Cape Verde coach, Rui Aguas, that asked if he was interested in representing the country of his father's birth.

25:46but the message was in Portuguese so he just thought it was spam and didn't read it. Luckily the coach Aguas he followed up again in English the following year and now thanks to that Pico Lopez is presumably heading to the World Cup in a few weeks time. Wow.

26:02Charlie Eccleshare:Great stuff. Yeah. Please for him less so for us.

26:09Right then we move on. So this is question four. San Marino, Andorra and which other European country have never had a club in the group or league phase of a UEFA club competition? Mine goes to Lichtenstein, doesn't it? It feels more gettable.

26:29Charlie Eccleshare:A country that has never had a club in the group stage of any of the three. So Lichtenstein's got to be an option because I'm pretty sure, isn't there like a Vaduz, like a Luxembourg club? in the quiz last time with this what? This rabble. Yeah, that I've seen their name enough to make me think that might have been in a very early part of a European competition. Yeah. I don't even know what Liechtenstein would be. Well, they're not technically ruled out because you can still win the Liechtenstein Cup, which I think grants you access to or has granted you access to the lower reaches of European competition.

27:06Charlie Eccleshare:What about the Faroe Islands? Faroe Islands, well, yeah, I was thinking of group stages. I think, I mean, they've played plenty of qualifiers for sure. I mean... So the two countries that have are Andorra and San Marino? Yeah. Is that right? Two countries that have never had one. The other two that haven't, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah.

27:35Mad.

27:36Charlie Eccleshare:Because group stages are fairly recent for Europa and Conference, of course. I feel like the Pharaohs are more likely to have a sort of madcap story and we sent our intrepid reporter to the Pharaohs to watch them play. And they're not shit as well, they're not that bad. They're not totally terrible. Gibraltar? I like Gibraltar more. No, but wasn't there? They beat Celtic once. In the qualifiers though. In the qualifiers, yeah, but that would have given them at least a shot. I don't think that would have got them. But that would have been the Champions League, right? And they wouldn't have got to the group stages.

28:09Charlie Eccleshare:do you fall down into the Europa League they might have got close enough yeah but I think teams like Gibraltar have to play at least three qualifiers and all it would have meant was Celtic just have to be not in the final set of qualifiers and Gibraltar didn't make it but I don't think Gibraltar I think it would have been more of a big deal that a team from Gibraltar would have to play multiple group games in European competition like it would have been more of a thing that team had to go and play them on this absurd little pitch by the rock should we give an honourable clue yeah because I think we will to be sporting it's not a microstate no is Gibraltar a microstate?

28:45Charlie Eccleshare:for the purposes of this question yes there will be clues from us going forward in this quiz so we will return the favour not Gibraltar think of some newly formed nations Kosovo for example they're good enough aren't they that they would have had yeah maybe in the group stages of the conference maybe I mean, that's what makes it so difficult. Like, it's already quite obscure at that level. So plenty of countries could have made it. So pharaohs then? Is that what we're going for? I fear this might be a little bit more sort of East European, Balkan situation. Charlie's instinct was Liechtenstein.

29:22Mine was Liechtenstein.

29:23Charlie Eccleshare:Okay. Oh, yeah, okay. But they are a microstate. Are they? Yeah. Yeah, they are small as fuck. Yeah. What's the threshold for a microstate? I believe it is small as fuck. Yeah, I believe that is. official. You can walk in a day. Yeah, we can tell you it's not Liechtenstein. They are a micro... Yeah, we can put that up. You know a micro-state when you see one. Okay, should we go for the Faroe Islands? Yeah. Yeah, we're going for the Faroe Islands. What, are they a macro-state? Archipelago, aren't they? We're going for the Faroe Islands sweeper with regret. The answer is, in fact, Montenegro. And I think...

30:03Really? You're working to actually really strong. Like you really got around here. And it's basically down to the launch of the UEFA Conference League. So since that happened, there have been 12 countries that have had their first representatives at a group or league phase. So it's Armenia, Bosnian Herzegovina, Estonia, the Faroe Islands, one of them, Gibraltar, Iceland, Kosovo, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Malta, Northern Ireland and Wales. So it's, yeah, you got very close. And that Balkan, that was the pathway to go down. I just would have thought they'd be slightly better than that.

30:37Charlie Eccleshare:Damn the Conference League. Damn you. Ruined a good question. Right, question five, please, the sweeper. Number five. What do the football clubs FC Supra du Québec, FC Charleroi and FC Sion all have in common? So they are FC Supra du Québec of Canada, FC Charleroi of Belgium and FC Sion of Switzerland. What do they all have in common? Right, so Canadian team and two, sorry, Canadian team, Swiss club, Sion and Belgian club, Charleroi. Is it all that they're, I mean, French speak, this is quite basic, but French speaking, but not French, but not in France? Don't mind, that's really good. As a starting point at least.

31:19Yes, because. If Sion is, I mean, Sion's Swiss, I know, but I don't know what city it is.

31:24Charlie Eccleshare:Yeah, it'll be in a canton that doesn't speak French, but they are French. It doesn't speak Swiss. well no well swiss isn't a language as such okay you got french italian and then romanche basically which is swiss essentially uh but then german of course yeah so i think french charlie this has to be it feels good to me a french speak bit what's the what's the answer what how are we forming this um frank francophone i mean because charlotte i mean what what makes a french speaking isn't it yeah if charlotte was i feel like i should know more about them because Watford signed loads of players from Charlois because of some tie-up with a dubious agent.

32:08Charlie Eccleshare:So we'll go for some... Is it like Francophone... Francophone clubs in non... No, not in France. Cities where England fans have been blasted with watercats. Yeah, that is where the mind goes with the middle one. This is definitely it. We've just got to make sure we get enough of it right to make sure they give us the point on the basis of our endeavour. so i think what french speaking clubs yes in not in france french speaking clubs not in france is that gonna be enough i think then they're nodding it feels good come on we're we're gonna give you it so what we've got here is they're all based in minority french speaking regions of their respective countries but along those lines also we were undone by your faultless french accent lee i should have pitched this one out them they never got the french incredible r's on that Yeah, superb.

33:00Charlie Eccleshare:Wow. Okay, we remain in contention. The Sweeper going niche, as promised. It's 3-2 to the Sweeper, and this episode is brought to you in association with NordVPN. For those who don't know, VPN stands for Virtual Private Network. It secures your connection, protecting your personal information and online activity, especially on public Wi-Fi. A VPN can also make your phone or laptop appear as if it's in another country, which is great for accessing content while travelling. right the listeners question for this quiz who am i i've won the fa cup i've been named in the pfa premier league team of the year in the 2020s i've played in four different countries my last three clubs have all won their league title in the last 15 years but i wasn't there for any of them and 38.4 of my name has some sort of accent on the letters if you know this one listeners get in touch with the right answers and all the first responders on all the various platforms will be giving a shout out on the next episode.

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34:30Charlie Eccleshare:welcome back to football cliches the cliches quiz 24 the sweeper are our guests this time they lead 3-2 as we head into round two the sweeper your second round will be english football well out of your comfort zone as i remember right yes we suspected this might happen okay okay let's test your levels of patriotic football knowledge with question one at the time of recording a total of 1299 men have been capped by england at senior level since 1872 I want you to name a player who falls between numbers 1 ,100 and 1 ,150 in the all-time chronological list. And we're going to give you three guesses at this.

35:17As in a recent first cap? Like, these are the more recent.

35:21Charlie Eccleshare:So the most recent player capped for England is number 1 ,299. Okay? So we need you to name a player between 1 ,100 and 1 ,150. So you've got a range of 50 players. Right. You've got to work out roughly when that was. Yikes. So we're up to 1 ,300 pretty much now, and we're looking for 150 players a go. What I will also do, every time you guess, I will tell you if you're too high or too low. How long does it take then for the 150-ish England caps to be awarded? That's a fair while, isn't it? But that's like, it's a good few years. You've only got a range of 50 to work with. pops into mind for some reason.

36:08Yeah. Are we thinking maybe the sort of towards the end of the noughties, maybe that kind of period? Did you say, am I mad? No, yeah. So we're thinking that kind of period. For some reason, that's the kind of period I'm seeing too. De Reis Fussell's not a bad sighter. Should we start with that and see whether we're too low, too late, too early? Yeah. Yeah. Do we know when De Reis Fussell made his England debut? Because if we don't, then it's actually not particularly helpful. Of course we don't. But we have a vague feeling for it, right? But that's early 2000s, right? Darius Vassell's England debut would be, what, 04 or something?

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36:44Charlie Eccleshare:Why not? But at least it gives us a sort of... You're going for Darius Vassell? Yeah. Darius Vassell, I can tell you, made his England debut against the Netherlands in February 2002, just before Valentine's Day, in fact. You're looking for a player who made his debut between 1 ,100 and 1 ,150 in the all-time chronological list of England internationals. Darius Vassell is number 1 ,116. Wow! You basically nailed it. That's insane, Tom. Sorry, I'm applauding. Oh, my goodness. That is amazing. Fair play. I knew one day he'd help us out with something for England. You do answer Darius Vassell to every single thing you get asked.

37:28It's finally come good for us. Oh, man.

37:31Charlie Eccleshare:That is brilliant Perception of how these things work I mean who has ever been confronted with that dilemma before But you've done it And we're going to do this question again I think Because I really enjoyed it Yeah I'm almost disappointed we got it first time Yeah me too actually It's such a well-weighted question What am I saying I'm not disappointed I love it I love it Adam tried this one out on me yesterday And I was six the other way Six too short I went Emil Heskey Who's just the other side of the line It's hard to picture it in your head, really. I don't know how the brain processes this information, but you've done it anyway, and you lead by four points to two.

38:08Charlie Eccleshare:Dave, question two of round two for them, please. Question two, returning to an old favourite here. Which of these is not a real name of a club in this season's FA Cup extra preliminary round? A, Hereford Pegasus. B, Mousehole. c eversley and california or d co-op fc right so i think i've got two of these for sure there is a mouse hole although i think it's mousel i got told off the call yeah yeah once yeah no no not bigger cornwall right yeah cornwall hereford pegasus mousel what was the third one sorry third or fourth um yeah what were the third and there was one more in there that i heard oh the Everly in California isn't it you said that?

38:59Eversley in California Eversley in California I think that exists because I you know I'm sure you all know this I present the football in Berkshire awards every year oh my god I mean I don't want to I don't want to sort of blow my trumpet if you're in Zanzibar

39:12Charlie Eccleshare:don't you know don't pick Kosovo they'll know about that I think that is one of the I think that is one of the teams because it's sort of stuck in my head for the California bit I think so I think they do exist unless you're being really devious and you have seen that I present the football impartial awards and manipulate the name of your team just slightly wrong and know that I'll jump at it so I think those two we can say are real but the other two... You did think you listened to a podcast which didn't exist by the way just to balance that out so we've got Hereford Pegasus that we're weighing up and the fourth one was Co-op FC I mean that sounds so fake I also feel like there might be a hereford pegasus i'm not i don't live that far from hereford but that doesn't help i can't you know you don't necessarily see you know i can't see hereford pegasus from a window but that doesn't help we're everywhere adam we're everywhere it seems so um we had we had fc quick fit i think didn't we but hereford pegasus are we should we lean towards that one then if you think we try to choose the one that isn't real are we not yeah oh so i think hereford pegasus might exist but then it's the co-op one which just sounds so fake right but would that is that is that designed to throw us off is it a devious i don't know do the fa ensure that you have a place name or something so you can't just be co-op sc but they have to be co-op tivitan no such rule exists as far as i know they've got me doubting hereford pegasus now pick pick one of those two paul we'll uh no i will you think hereford pegasus isn't really do you reckon yeah i think it might not be real.

40:50Yeah. We're going with Hereford Pegasus. We're going with Hereford Pegasus.

40:53Charlie Eccleshare:Okay. That is a real team. Hereford Pegasus exists. So do Mousel and Eversley in California. The fake team is Co-op FC. We've been played. We've been played. Could be crucial. Could be crucial. Right. The score remains 4-2. Charlie, question three, please. Question three. who are the only club to have had four or more separate Premier League spells but never achieve a top half finish? Clue? They will not play in the Premier League in 2026-27. Gone early with a clue there. That's fine. No, that was built in. That's fine. So a yo-yo team who's never finished in the top half, essentially. Sorry, was it four Premier League spells?

41:42Four Premier League spells. Yeah. So I'm thinking you're like your Sheffield United's spring to mind. My instinct was Burnley. the Burnleys of this world is that stupid? Burnley or Bolton? no, Bolton have finished I don't think Bolton have been in it four times separately I don't know if Burnley have been in there four times and Bolton played European football so they definitely were top half at some point I feel like this clue of they won't be there next year is slightly to get us to not realise Burnley have been relegated Norwich also played European football though Lee so Norwich must have recorded a top half finish at some point yeah they played against Bayern Munich actually so yeah that's that's a good shout yeah they must have done back in the day yeah Ipswich also had a good season didn't they Burnley Paul you're presumably not somebody who's who's a regular feature in a top 10 of a Premier League no but have they been have they been there four times I'm not sure Sheffield United I just feel like if I go back to the 90s and things I think of playoffs and Sheffield United come yeah they they come to the forefront there and I feel like potentially have been there four separate times in the Premier League and usually usually struggling but

42:51Charlie Eccleshare:this is the perfect question for Charlie to ask because I know that he wants to correct every single thing that you're saying

43:02I've not thought about the level of pain he must be feeling when a psychological screw gets turned there is one there is one thing I will say at the end just because I know it would have upset some listeners. Can you throw out some names, guys? And I'll just study Charlie's face really carefully if I can bring anything, read anything from that. It's like he's a fluent Spanish speaker watching some Brits trying to order in a Spanish restaurant. He just looks in pain. I apologise, Charlie. I don't know, guys. Sheffield United? It was quite a strong shout from you, Dan. I feel like we're not correct given that...

43:31No. We haven't come up with the right answer, but... Tom, it's not Coventry, is it? You're a Coventry fan. It's not Coventry. Four times, no way. Four times in the Premier League. No. Charlton? I guess they went there four times either. I feel like they've had a top half finish as well for sure, right? They had some good years. Okay. Maybe not. I'm not qualified to give a confident answer to this question, so happy to go with whatever. Should we put ourselves out of our misery and go Sheffield United? Wait, what about Southampton? Is Southampton a possibility? Did they ever finish in the top half?

44:09I feel like they might have done actually, I'm skewed by their Wembley appearances in the FA Cup over the years. Oh, wait, wait. Didn't they just say they won't be in the Premier League next season? Southampton lost to Middleton. No, they won. They could be in the Premier League next season. Sheffield United, however, can not be in. Unless these guys know stuff we don't. I don't know. No, I think we have to just guess. It's deeper than you thought. I think we have to just go. But yeah, otherwise Southampton was a good guess. But I think it can't be them, right? Because we don't know. All I've got is Burnley.

44:35I can't. I don't even think that's right. But that's all I've got. Go with it then, Paul. do you have anything better guys? I've got nothing to I quite like Sheffield United but the fact the conversation turned to how we were definitely wrong sort of put me off that Let's go with your instinct of Burnley then Paul Alright Burnley Burnley 5 spells in the Premier League total of 10 seasons a highest finish of 7th I'm afraid I think in the 17-18 season the correct answer is Dave's beloved Watford.

45:12Charlie Eccleshare:Four spells. 99-2000, 06-07, 15-16 to 19-20. And then we had an extra season in 21-22. We finished 11th in 18-19. We should have finished top half, but we qualified for the FA Cup final and tailed off. Also, I was thinking that that first Kike Sanchez-Flores, the 15-16 one, Watford were pretty decent, weren't they? For about the last 13 seasons, we've had really strong first halves and terrible second halves. We are a first half of the season team. But what was the thing you wanted to correct, Charlie? Oh, yeah, sorry. And appropriately, because this is quite a Partridge-style correction, Norwich came third in the inaugural Premier League season.

45:52Third. So, yeah, that was the only one. Otherwise, no, Burnley's a good shout. Yeah, you can tell we're not Premier League experts, can't you, with that?

46:00Charlie Eccleshare:Right then. Score remains 4-2 as we go into question four of your second round. which is the biggest football stadium in sorry which is the biggest football stadium in england played in by a club not located in a city or representing a city ipswich town potentially could be you know i'm just trying to think of of town because there's some big town clubs right who are therefore probably just below the threshold for for a city i mean ipswich is a really strong shout right because i just i'm struggling to think of any other any other big Swindon Town, but Swindon's smaller than Ipswich for sure. Cheltenham Town.

46:39Cheltenham Town. It's like 4 ,000, isn't it? So it's dwarfed by Ipswich. It's more Shrewsbury Town. Shrewsbury's ground's actually surprisingly big, but it isn't Portman Road size. Any other towns? Any towns in the Premier League? Any towns in the top half of the championship? Unless anyone's... Oh, wait a minute. What's Sunderland? Sunderland's a city, right? There's middle... Oh, I'm all over the place. The north-east is causing me problems. Sunderland, yeah. North East, Middlesbrough and Sunderland. Do you not present the awards up in that part of the country? Would be helpful if you did, Paul.

47:14It would, it would. Sunderland could be a good shout, though.

47:16Charlie Eccleshare:What a corporate gig that is, by the way, the Berkshire Football Awards. It's a great, it's actually, it's a great day. It's a great, everyone has a great time. But anyway, on to this one. Do you do a big opening monologue like Conan O 'Brien at the Oscars? Roasting FC Bracknell. i did last year i basically stood up and said uh so i made an anti-wiltshire joke and it went over huge huge class i mean i'm from gloucestershire so you know it's like common enemy the enemy of my enemy um i think sunderland i quite like sunderland but it could be a city of course it could be a city it doesn't these days yeah i think sunderland is a city oh thanks if Sunderland's a city then we're if Sunderland's a city then that answer's sunk but if it's a town surely because the stadium's massive but I think it could be a city so we either go with Ipswich for the fact that they've got town in the name and we can't think of a bigger town FC or we go with Sunderland because the stadium size and hope that it's not it's too much of a gamble we can't gamble on I don't think we can gamble on Sunderland being a town I don't think we can whereas Ipswich we know we've hit a town right right surely is it too easy is it too baked in and we should go I feel like we should go for Sunderland Lee you've got the casting vote I actually think Ipswich I think it's just too much of a risk that Sunderland could be a city yeah let's go Ipswich then you go for Ipswich Town as the club with the largest football stadium in England not in a city I can tell you that Portman Road is the 28th biggest football ground in England but not the biggest stadium in a non-city.

49:03Charlie Eccleshare:That honour goes further towards the North East and Middlesbrough. It was briefly speculated. They were in the conversation weren't they? Sunderland is a city I can confirm, a port city. Yeah, so there you go. It remains It was a great question. OK, Dave, question five, please. Question five. Since England won the World Cup in 1966, only two goalkeepers have made their England debuts after turning 30. Name one of those two goalkeepers. Rob Green? Was he quite old when he made his debut? I'm looking at blanks, but I don't know. I felt like he wasn't young. Obviously Pickford was young. It's not going to be him.

50:01Scott Carson, did he? He's always been old, Scott Carson. I'm floundering. I'm thinking maybe it's a player who would have been like a backup and would have then just played randomly. So like someone like Nigel Martin, maybe? Tim Flowers. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Tim Flowers and Nigel Martin, they're very strong shouts. So we think maybe a bench goalkeeper who's not actually come on, maybe sort of eight years into their England career, they make their debut. Yeah, yeah. Chris Woods, kind of... In fact, Chris Woods did play for England at one point, right? But he basically was on the bench his entire life.

50:46I don't even know who that is. Oh. I'm very old now. I thought that was a striker from New Zealand. No, not Chris Wood. What about some of the, if you go back to the 80s and things, I feel like, are there any older goalkeepers there, more sort of legendary goalkeepers or more famed goalkeepers who would have got the nod later in their careers? Or do we just go with one of the kind of second goalkeepers that we've mentioned? I think it's a second goalkeeper who got their chance. Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense, right? Yeah. It makes sense for it to be like one of those subs, like Nigel Martin, Tim Flowers, they're strong shouts.

51:28Tim Flowers really like, he was always a sub, right? He was never first choice, but he would have had that moment where... Do we go Tim Flowers then? And the risk of, you know, having a very weak finish to round two? Yeah, let's try it. Let's try it. All right, Tim Flowers, have we gone down too early and the ball's bobbled over us?

51:49Charlie Eccleshare:tim flowers made his england debut on the 13th of june 1993 and he was definitely younger than 30 i can't see how old he was he was in his 20s 26 years and 130 days he was in his prime then so it wasn't it wasn't tim flowers um the two answers you could have had was either dave besant who made his England debut in November 1989 as a 30-year-old against Italy. Nil-nil draw, clean sheet against Italy. Or more recently, Tom Heaton who made his England debut in May 2016 in a game against Australia. Right, a solitary point for the sweeper in round two. You let your country down. Maybe I should sing the chant at you, but yeah, okay.

52:39Charlie Eccleshare:You lead 4-2 nonetheless. Time for our round two, please. okay are we doing um so just off are we doing the multiple choice round as this one for you guys is that right yeah yeah yeah okay is it me to lead off Lee just to check yeah uh yeah you're green so if you just maybe specify that it's multiple choice yeah so round two and this is multiple choice okay what has Gigi Becali the controversial owner of Romanian football club FCSB not done a commissioned a picture of himself as jesus at the last supper b forged his wife's signature in divorce papers c ordered a kidnapping d worked as a shepherd i can read those again if okay my instincts straight away is the jesus one yeah that was mine too because that feels like a sort of stock thing a megalomaniac owner does.

53:43Charlie Eccleshare:Humble beginnings as a shepherd, definitely kidnap someone during the Stauer era and then obviously forge his wife's signature. That's an easy one for a despotic club owner to do. I feel like my instinct was ordered a kidnapping. Would that be public? Has he been done for it? Covers his tracks. Trying to goad us into libel here, are we? you're going down with us let's put it that way jesus was mine as well um that that feels quite a stock thing for a madman to do okay okay i'm willing to give up the kidnapping um for the purposes of negotiation here do you think the jesus thing probably did happen again it feels like something no no that's what i that was where my instinct was well that that was the fake one um too but dave casting doubt on the situation but yeah i mean kidnapping could be is it a particularly religious country would that be like an outrageous thing to do i would say so yeah yeah go with it then oh you're going for jesus no yeah go with that being fake okay we're gonna go for the picture of jesus as the fake one okay um what i can say is that Gigi Bacali is a former shepherd who became a property tycoon in the years after communism's collapse.

55:10And that in 2009, he ordered the kidnapping of three people who were suspected of stealing his luxury car. His bodyguards put them in a car boot. I can also say that in 2005, the papers wrote that he commissioned a painting inspired by Leonardo da Vinci's Last Supper, in which he holds the place of Jesus, while his 11 players and the coach are his disciples. What he has never done is forged his wife's signature in divorce papers. Bollocks. As far as we know. As far as we know.

55:40Charlie Eccleshare:Exactly. Where's your evidence? Right. Okay. Fair enough. Right. We're scoreless so far. On to question two. Again, it's multiple choice. Which of the following clubs with transport-themed names did not feature in their top national division in this season? A. Tractor. B. Van C. Motor Lublin or D. Airbus Broughton Right.

56:12Charlie Eccleshare:Tractor are a top flight club in Iran, I believe. I think they even won the league within the last decade or so or have been close to doing so. That's good knowledge. So unless they've gone bust or, you know, whatever, let's keep them in. Airbus UK brought an ARA club whether they are in the Cymru Premier I'm not sure Lublin where is Lublin sounds a bit Slovenian I don't know maybe sounds too close to being Ljubljana doesn't it Ljubljana rings a bell I don't think they're even the biggest club in Ljubljana so I am tempted towards Moto Lublin I have to say Davey you have to go with Moto Lublin yeah we're going for Moto Lublin the correct answer the team that did not play in their top division last season.

56:59We thought it might be the most gettable one in that it's Airbus Broughton. They were not in the Cymru Premier last season. They've been promoted to the Cymru Premier. But yeah, Traktor, you're absolutely right. Traktor from Iran, the club of the Azerbaijani Turks in Iran as well, which is the largest minority in Iran. They won the Persian Gulf League as recently as 2025. Vanna from Armenia's Premier League, Muto Lublin, are currently in a relegation battle in Poland's Extra Klasa. Damn it.

57:27Charlie Eccleshare:Right. Poor Welsh knowledge from us. It remains 4-2. Question three, please. This might be my favourite question of the whole quiz. The coach of Serie A Chi club, Virtus Verona, Gigi Fresco, sacked and then reinstated himself this season. But what other aspect of the story made headlines? A. His temporary replacement was his nephew. b upon firing himself he held a press conference where he both asked and answered the questions c he is the world's longest serving coach at present d he spent 17 days in prison between his self-sacking and reinstatement wow i mean fair play wow i would like to rule out straight away the press conference thing that seems ludicrous like properly ludicrous and also seems something that would be quite fun to write in a quiz.

58:21Charlie Eccleshare:So I'm going to rule that one out of my considerations. I like the prison one personally. I don't think he's the longest serving coach in world football. I think it's the prison one. I like the prison one. Yeah, should go with that. Yeah. Dave? I mean, I wouldn't have been surprised with any of them. They are very well-pitched guesses there. In that case, we will go for D. he went to prison in between his two spells no the answer is c he is the world's longest serving coach at present he's currently been on the bench for 44 years but then sacked himself to try and prompt an upturn in form because he's also the chairman then that upturn in form didn't happen so he decided well i'll go back on the bench so he is the longest serving all right girou chill out yeah um wow okay question four please on to question four which asian football club recently equaled the record held by ASEC Mimosas of Abidjan in the Ivory Coast for the longest league unbeaten run in football history at a whopping 108 games.

59:30Was it Johor Dar al-Tazim in Malaysia? Was it Shan United in Myanmar? Was it Akadag in Turkmenistan? Or was it Mahamadan SC in Bangladesh? We're looking for the longest unbeaten run in league football history. They've recently equalled the record of ASEC mimosas of Abidjan in the Ivory Coast.

59:52Charlie Eccleshare:I believe this to be Arkadag. Nice. And that is my final answer. Bit of intel. Good. That is our final answer. Arkadag, final answer. Arkadag is unfortunately... What? Incorrect. Jesus Christ. The intel was off. But it was said with so much confidence. spoken to the Southampton scout. It's Johor Dar-Tazim, JDT. They're owned by the Crown Prince of Johor. They've won every Malaysian league title since 2014. Their last defeat in the league, 30th of April, 2021. The kicker is Shan United of Myanmar are also unbeaten in about the same length of time, but they don't play as many games. Arkadag of Turkmenistan have won every single game in their history, but they were founded on the 1st of April, 2023.

1:00:41so they haven't played as many matches as the others.

1:00:44Charlie Eccleshare:Too much nuance in your multiple choices. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's JDT. Oh no. We are scoreless in round two. Our final question please. Question five. Which statement about the inaugural 1930 World Cup is untrue? A, all the matches took place in one city. B a match was refereed by a head coach C the winning team contained a player with one arm D the two finalists expelled each other's ambassadors Jonathan Wilson asked us a question about I know what you're thinking yeah you're thinking of the fingers the one arm thing right Hector Castro yeah Hector Castro is the one armed man

1:01:32Charlie Eccleshare:you've got to pick apart the sweepers mentality here he definitely played in a World Cup final and scored a goal. I just don't know if it's the 1930 one or not, but I'm so, you know, Arkadag is, you know, on my mind. I don't think he scored the 1950 final, did he? Did they play in another final in between? Yeah, good point. I mean, yeah, I'm just more paranoid here. I'm pretty sure Hector Castro and the one-armed man is the right answer. Yeah, yeah. So we're going for the one that isn't right, right? Oh, sorry. Yeah, just to make a clip, We're looking for the one that's untrue. Oh, yeah. Great.

1:02:09Charlie Eccleshare:So that... Okay, well, we've ruled one out. Recently read... Started reading Jonathan Wilson's book about the World Cup. Oh, yeah. And each chapter is a different tournament. And I can't remember anything. Brilliant. I just read... I read books. I read books and I can't remember anything about them. Yeah, this is all just a sting operation to see if anyone actually read Jonathan Wilson's book. You're listening to the Libero podcast. Yeah. Right. So we think it's the arm one. And then there's the ambassador. We think there's played in the same city. Every game played in the same city. Did a head coach ref a game?

1:02:48Charlie Eccleshare:I think that did happen. I think that did happen. Again, based on Wilson's book. Every game in the same city. I don't think it was. I think there's more than one city for the first time. Yeah, so do I. But not really based on anything. Not really either. So then he expelled the ambassadors. so that would be I've never heard that story I have to say I've never heard the ambassador's story ever I think it probably was in one city personally now I think it was I think more than likely completely tin pot first World Cup Montevideo big place couple of stadiums gorgeous big city I think the ambassadors thing personally alright let's go with that I mean I'm budgeting for no points in this round now yeah yeah oh yeah we're going to go for the ambassadors being expelled please the sweeper okay so the entire world cup took place in three stadia in montevideo yes so it is not that one argentina's 6-3 win against mexico was refereed by bolivia's coach ulysses sarcedo uh uruguay forward hector castro accidentally amputated his right forearm when he was 13 the thing that is not true is the two finalists expelling each other's ambassadors so congratulations we needed that wow we needed that we did need that it is 4-3 to the sweeper after two rounds we'll take a short break and we'll be back for the third and final rounds

1:04:22Oh, look at that! That is wonderful!

1:04:29Charlie Eccleshare:Welcome back to the Football Clichés Quiz 24. The Sweeper are back with a niche vengeance. Because they lead 4-3 after two rounds and we go into the final round. We will alternate our questions here to keep the tension up. The Sweeper, your third round will be international football. your happy hunting ground, I suspect. What's your third round for us? Correct order, isn't it? Ooh. Ooh, okay. Didn't do too badly on this one last time, but challenging nonetheless. Right, we'll kick things off in round three. The score is 4-3. Dave, hit them with question one. Question one of round three. what World Cup curiosity links Chile in 1973 and Scotland in 1996 hmm

1:05:31well Tom you might know so you're Scottish you know 1996 was was qualifying for France 98 so oh yeah of course there isn't actually a World Cup so what happened to them what did Scotland do in 96 sorry it was Chile in

1:05:49Charlie Eccleshare:Chile in 1973 Scotland in 1996

1:05:57Euro 96 they got scored against by by Gascoigne with the dentist chair celebration what did somebody do a dentist chair celebration against Chile?

1:06:12Charlie Eccleshare:Really want this to be the answer. We would love that. Chile.

1:06:23Tom, I know this is a very tough question, but do you know anything about the World Cup qualifying campaign for Scotland at that time? Would they have been qualifying for France 98, which they did qualify for, right? Successfully reached, yeah. Hmm. I essentially know, I don't know anything about that World Cup qualifying campaign. They couldn't have had, like, a manager by the same name or something. Unless there was a Craig Brown, I think, back in Chile in the early 70s. I mean, So Scotland qualified. I'm struggling to say whether Chile qualified in that qualification campaign. That is outside of my knowledge.

1:07:14What could they be linked by in what other way that's like gettably? I'm not really coming up with anything, I have to say. I mean, they could either have recorded record wins or losses or... could scotland i reckon it's got to be something if it's only those two that it applies to it's probably going to be something really random which is a case of we'd either know it or we don't and i

1:07:45Charlie Eccleshare:think we don't um you are you are correct in your thinking there i would say it is it is quite a random thing oh there was a there was a walkover for scotland in that in that game in that group against I think Estonia or something there was a walkover where was that the one they turned up and the Estonians I don't know if that was even in 96 it was a roundabout then so maybe we could go with that they were awarded a walkover game in qualification for both teams I'll definitely get with that unlikely but it's something we'll go with that we'll give you that we'll give you that yeah it's um so yeah it was in effect it was a walkover the the actual answer is they kicked off a qualifying game against nobody because the opposition boycotted it yeah yeah they didn't even they even in the scotland one weren't they both able to even sort of walk it into the net before the referee scotland didn't call it off just three seconds wasn't it yeah scotland had yeah i can't remember why it was cancelled is that like does anyone know why it's a row of a kickoff time basically oh um so the estonians refused to turn up on home soil uh the chili one is a little bit more sinister um the soviets boycotted it because of general pinochet's military coup the forced out the socialist government and held political prisoners in the stadium uh all very unpleasant um but yeah they refused to turn up for the second leg so you are correct it has been noted that you are very generous with the awarding of the point for that as well good good right you lead five three what's your first question for us please so this is a put them in the correct order round question one liverpool became the first club to become english champions directly after gaining promotion to the top flight in 1906 four other english clubs have since achieved this feat ipswich everton nottingham forest and tottenham put them in chronological order.

1:09:46So what were the clubs? Ipswich, Everton, Forest, Forest and Spurs.

1:09:50Charlie Eccleshare:Spurs. So Forest did it under Clough, didn't they? Yeah. So that would have been 78. Late 70s? 78. 77-78. They won the European Cup in 79. So it's Forest in 77-78. Ipswich. Did they win it in the 60s under... Ramsey. Ramsey? Yeah. They didn't win under Robson and they certainly didn't have to get promoted. That would make sense. So let's say, should we say sort of 1960, early 60s, because obviously United then became a big deal. Should we say sort of 63 or something? Yeah. Let's say 63 for that. Spurs, the Bill Nick Spurs chance. Well, that's, yeah. So they won it in 61. Had they just got promoted when they did that?

1:10:42Charlie Eccleshare:I'm sure, obviously, with them being nearly being relegated that people have been saying they've had X amount of top flight seasons in a row yeah but they so they got relegated around 1980 because it was around when they won the FA Cup in 81 they'd either just been relegated or got relegated just after yeah people have been talking about that a lot recently fair play my instincts are this Everton Everton first sort of Dixie Dean era 30s yeah then I'm going to go for Spurs late 50s early 60s then i'm going to go for ipswich mid 60s then i'll go for forest 70s that's what i think because that's good yeah because i think everton have been have been in the league for so long that they um yeah they make sense as the first yeah okay so this is our order we're going to go for everton then spurs then ipswich then forest okay the first one was everton in 1932 the next one was Tottenham in 1951 so timing slightly out but order very much correct.

1:11:44Ipswich 1962 and then Nottingham Forest 1978 so you are correct. Very good.

1:11:51Charlie Eccleshare:5-4 Charlie hit them with question 2 of the final round please. Okay this is a well this is a you'll find out I played for Juventus was the top scorer in Serie A three times, won the Ballon d 'Or, finished third at the World Cup, won 72 caps for my country, but then played once for another country from a different continent. Who am I, and what country did I win that single cap for? Are we talking like Davos, who care? Could that be? Yeah, because Croatia came third in 1998, didn't they? The third is the big thing, right? Thinking about countries that have finished third. And then he would have played also, could you repeat the wording of the question, please?

1:12:35I played for Juventus. was the top scorer in Syria three times, won the Ballon d 'Or, finished third at the World Cup, won 72 caps for my country, but then played once for another country from a different continent. Who am I and what country did I win that single cap for? Different continent doesn't make sense, does it? Yeah, I'm hoping that you guys could lean in with a swoop for somebody who made this international appearance somewhere else. So let's go for, can we go through the third place winners? So in 2002, was that Turkey? Was that Turkey-South Korea in that semifinal? I think that's correct.

1:13:12Yeah. 2006 was Germany against... So Germany were knocked out by Italy. France beat... Was that Portugal or Brazil? 2010 final, Spain versus Netherlands. I can't remember who either of them knocked out in the semifinals. That's not helpful. There's a thing here that's popping up into my head. So, okay, first out, it's another continent. But also, you can't represent two national teams, right? Unless that national team is like a different type of national team, right? You can't just play, make 76, capture one nation and then represent another, right? You can if, I think if there's a new country that's formed.

1:13:59Right. So either new country is formed. I think you are allowed to. But also, can you do it if it's a not fully recognised country? Or, you see what I mean? Or like a Martinique or, you know, like a reunion, like a kind of halfway between. Who came third at World Cup 94? Was it Bulgaria? Yeah. Oh, so yeah. What countries were formed? I mean, we're talking, did you say a Ballon d 'Or winner? Did I, have we overlooked the fact that this is a Ballon d 'Or winner here as well? No, no. Oh, okay. So, right. Right, so that's not a lot of players. Is it, could it be Dakhopanchov or? But it's a different continent, that national team.

1:14:40That's the thing. Different continent. This is our equivalent. Do you remember the last quiz we did where Armenia and Boca Juniors came up as a pairing and we just could not work out what linked them. I really enjoyed listening to that one back actually. It still hurt. It hurt as much listening back to that round as it did at the time. No, you're right though, Lee, the different continent thing's huge because I'm thinking of like, you know, you'll have like French players who would also play for like, could possibly play for Guadeloupe, Martinique, those kind of places because they're not fully recognised internationals.

1:15:08So that's the road I'm going now. But I don't think France, have France finished third at any World Cups? Because my instinct was someone like Thierry Henry or something like a guy who... He did play for Juventus, but I think that was before his heyday, wasn't it? Yeah. I don't think he, he was played as a right winger at Juventus. But he's got to be someone who's good enough to get a Ballon d 'Or. It was a left winger for goodness sake. All right.

1:15:35Someone who's good enough to get Ballon d 'Ors, but also plays for another country. It has to be a like, like a heritage, like a place of a heritage that isn't fully recognised. But on a different continent, that's the, yeah, that's the kicker. I think we might have to accept that we're not going to get this one. Oh yeah, we might. because I mean you should just

1:16:00Charlie Eccleshare:you should just guess a random Ballon d 'Or winner guess a Ballon d 'Or winner please

1:16:08who played for Juventus

1:16:11Charlie Eccleshare:and the country of course

1:16:16Charlie Eccleshare:it'll be entertaining to find out what you go for as a combination is it like third in the World Cup Bulgaria Rostoychkov or something I don't know but the thing is like it's this other continent aspect right It just totally takes... You're not getting it, Paul. Come on. We're not getting it. I'm going to help you here. Not with a clue, but forget about the continent. Just look at players that played for Juventus and won the Ballon d 'Or. Like, just go... There can't be that many of those, can there? Did Christian Vieri... Charlie's raging inside. Christian Vieri was Australian-Italian, right?

1:16:49But could he have also played for Australia? All right, that's a strong guess, Lee. I think at this point we've got to fire anything out. Yeah, I don't. I've got to give it a go. All right, Christian Vieri. Which country? Well, the other country apart from Italy has to be Australia, right? Surely. It's not that, though. I know it's not that. But what is it? Okay, yeah, it's not that. The correct answer is Michel Platini, who played for Kuwait. I mean, that's an amazing fact. Came out of retirement for one day to play in an international friendly match representing Kuwait against the Soviet Union at the request of the Kuwaiti Emir.

1:17:24I imagine he was paid a decent sum for that he did it for the love of the game I'm sure yeah actually I think going back to the podcast question earlier I think there was a podcast called Platon he played for Q8 yeah there is isn't there I think there actually is a podcast called which I think maybe our research that was where we missed out a bit wasn't it that's a great question though okay

1:17:46Charlie Eccleshare:the score is 5-4 to the sweeper and it's time for our second question of the final round to draw a level Order the four countries making their debut at the 2026 World Cup by the length of their coastline. Superb. Obviously, that's the question. Why wouldn't it be? So it's Curacao, Uzbekistan. I have to realise we haven't been given the countries. Jordan and Cape Verde. And Cape Verde. Sorry, Curacao, who? Uzbekistan. But are they... They're fucking double that. They're landlocked, mate. Uzbekistan's landlocked. Yeah, double landlocked, son. They're landlocked to fuck. Like minus, they've got minus coastline.

1:18:30Charlie Eccleshare:Right, they're number one. It's low to high, right, presumably? From low to high, yeah. Yeah, we'll take that. Right. So Uzbekistan least, then Jordan.

1:18:42I think Jordan's big enough to have a bigger coastline

1:18:47Charlie Eccleshare:than the two island nations. That's what I would suggest. You reckon? Yeah. I guess. I think so. the coast of Jordan the Gulf it's certainly not landlocked that's for sure is Curacao the smallest smaller of the two islands? I think yes I believe so so I would it's got the smallest population isn't it? yeah so simple geometry but then of course you know if you're going for you know the ins and the outs but so my instinct would be Uzbekistan Curacao Cape Verde Cape Verde Jordan I won't be kicking myself to be honest yeah I like it, yeah. It sounds about right. Okay, our final order then is Uzbekistan, Curacao, Cape Verde, Jordan.

1:19:30The first one, Uzbekistan, the first double landlocked country ever to qualify for the World Cup. Only other one, Liechtenstein, obviously being double landlocked, but never qualified for a World Cup. So you're right, minus coastline there. They are first. The second is Jordan, bordered by Syria to the north, Israel to the west, Saudi Arabia to the south. and the east only has a tiny strip of coastline at 26 kilometers. Next, Curacao, the World Cup's smallest ever nation, consists of only one inhabited island and Cape Verde has 10 islands in their archipelago. So that's 965 kilometers of coastline in Cape Verde to the 364 kilometers of Curacao.

1:20:08Fair play. Oh, well. Where's Neil Oliver?

1:20:11Charlie Eccleshare:When do we get Neil Oliver on? That's a shame, but what a question that is, by the way. the score remains 5-4 right my first migraine of the day is kicking in and it's time for your third question of the final round I can just about read this which of these is not a real Brazilian international oh no A. Roberto Dynamite B. Paolo Cesar Archibald C. Bismarck or D. Quarantina so basically we're being asked are we going to believe there's a man called roberto dynamite i believe bismarck i feel like that's the kind of name you get like you know how you get guys called like wellington and i believe in i can believe a bismarck yeah what was it quarantino should we just should we just take a stab and see quarantino right the the origin of the word quarantine right comes from 40 days or whatever it was it's like a in venice when people got quarantined like when people when they have that um spanish flu basically the horrible thing and um so quarantine like it comes from 40 that name so it's not inconceivable that someone's called that it's not like someone's called like covid or something i don't know it's like it's like there's a name that means a thing that was then appropriated for something else paul as much as I love all of your intricate reasoning and I stand by it, I think it is as simple as, is Roberto Dynamite a real person?

1:21:46Yeah, I know, but they do us with, last quiz, they did us with at least two of these where we thought there's no way on earth. It was Bram Apple, wasn't it? Yeah. Was the Dutch question. Can there be a real, but there could be, right? I guess it's like, is it his real name or is it one of these, like, constructs to say, I don't know, like... Joao Covid. Number 19. but he wouldn't be wouldn't be an international born in 2021 you know born in 2020 2021 it's ciao covid right come on what's your answer who's the fake Brazilian throw one up there for us Lee it's got to be Roberto Dynamite I'm not believing that

1:22:26Charlie Eccleshare:you're going for Roberto Dynamite it'll haunt us more if we say he's real and he's not yeah right I can tell you that Quarantinia played for Brazil between 1959 and 1963 Bismarck was a member of their 1990 World Cup squad later played in Japan Roberto Dynamite was a prolific goal scorer on the Brazilian scene and went to multiple tournaments with the Brazilian the answer is actually Paolo Cesar Archibald slipped under the radar there didn't he yeah wow okay another chance for cliches to draw level in the final round Our third question, please. Okay. Put the following four last-time events in chronological order, from the earliest to the most recent.

1:23:17So the last win for Italy in a World Cup knockout match, the end of Sepp Blatter's FIFA presidency, Emmanuel Obue pretending to speak Korean, the UEFA Cups rebranding as the Europa League. Wow. So that's Italy's last win in a World Cup knockout, the end of Sepp Blatter's FIFA presidency, Emmanuel Aboué pretending to speak Korean, the UEFA Cup becoming Europa League. Okay. So Italy's 06. That's the last time they won a World Cup knockout match. There's no trick there, is there? No. Aboué, that's 2010, I'm pretty sure, when North Korea were in the World Cup.

1:24:00Charlie Eccleshare:Blatter, 2016? Yes, I think so. Issa Hayatu was the interim president between him and Infantino, I think. I think it was 2015 Blatter went down. Okay. I'm pretty sure that was... It's in that ballpark. Yeah, that was when all that stuff came out. Yeah. Okay, perfect. Europa League was... Fulham were the last one, weren't they? Yeah, so was that 09? That was 09-10. So 10-11 was the first Europa League, I think. Is that right? Well, Fulham the first Europa League. Was that... Yeah. Well, that's kind of crucial. It doesn't really matter. we just roughly we know I think it does better no it does because Aboué was that World Cup summer of 2010 I think Fulham was the first Europa League I don't think it was UEFA Cup yeah so that means that the so that would mean the Rangers Zenit was the last was that the last was that 2008 Rangers Zenit was 2008 that was 2008 so there was something in between those two but that's fine if it was it doesn't matter what it was if we think that if we think that Fulham was the first Europa League then 2009 was when it changed in which case that comes before Abue.

1:25:06So we would start with... What was the... Paul, what was it? It was the Europa League change to... UEFA Cup rebranding to UEFA League.

1:25:16Charlie Eccleshare:So Europa, Abue... No, sorry, Italy. Italy first. Europa, Abue, Blatter. Just to be sure, because they've only been in two World Cups since, haven't they? They beat England in 2014, but didn't get out of the groups so certainly didn't win a knockout tie Italy this is in 2014 2010 they went out in the group stage So 2014 yeah So what Uruguay and Costa Rica went through then in that group in 2014 is that what you're saying? Costa Rica won the group didn't they? And Uruguay Italy certainly didn't get the courses Because they lost to Colombia with that Hammers Rodriguez And they missed the last two World Cups of course So yeah okay So we're going to go for Italy Europa League Ibue Korea Sepp Blatter So Italy's last knockout win as you say was the 2006 final The UEFA Cup was rebranded as the Europa League in 2009 Emmanuel Ibue pretended to speak Korean in 2010 and Sepp Blatter's presidency ended in 2015 so you absolutely nailed that every single one of those Finishing strong here lads Finishing strong It's 5-0 Sweeper your fourth question of the final round will come from David Walker who were the last club to win a Champions League final staged in their own country that fifth point has actually got rid of my migraine I can see now in both eyes either way this must be this will be like the lowest scoring quiz we've ever had this is Italia 90 of World Cup of P-Shirt's quiz isn't it there was some catch-up during the last round wasn't there it was ah Ah, okay.

1:27:00Are we looking at Spanish side? There's a lot of Spanish winners potentially might have played in a stadium which isn't their own, but is in their own country. Yeah, yeah. I feel like... Are we going to have to go through final to final? But I just don't know that I'm going to be able to... I'm going to really fail. Fall over. I mean, starting maybe from the most recent rather than starting way back. I just think it feels like Bayern lost in their own stadium everyone seems to So I know that both the 2013 and 2024 finals are at Wembley which means that there probably wouldn't I don't know if there'd have been any other English finals in that time So if we're looking at like big five winners it's probably not going to be an English club then Wait, who won 2024 Lee?

1:27:50One in their own country That was Real Madrid against Borussia Dortmund and then the 2013 one was Dortmund against Bayern. Yeah, you're right. When PSG won last year, where was that? Because then we could eliminate France if they didn't win on French soil. Was it in Italy? They played Inter, but I don't know where it was. Home soil victory. Liverpool recently played the final in Paris, right? So the PSG win wouldn't have also been in Paris. Real Madrid won so many over the last 10 years Valencia were at the Metropolitano or something did Real Madrid win at the Metropolitano or presumably the real answer is going to go back further isn't it it's got to be further back than that it's got to be further back than that in 2003

1:28:452003 Juventus played AC Milan was that in Italy or is that just an all-italian final? We've got to find one more recent than that, surely. It's got to be more recent than that. I know we should get it, but the stamina's draining here at the end. I'd guess Real Madrid, but do we have to guess the year as well? Do we need to know the year? Just name the club. What, just the club? Bayern Munich lost in the final on home soil against, is that Chelsea? Chelsea, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd guess Real Madrid There was an all English final But was that That was in Madrid Was that in Madrid Was that Chelsea and No it was Liverpool Spurs Liverpool Spurs Oh yeah I'm really struggling I don't think I've got it Real Madrid won three in a row Under Zidane didn't they One of those probably in Spain Probably yeah i mean inter didn't beat by an inter didn't beat by an at the san siro did they no no no i don't know that that was in madrid i think because marino stayed and then became real madrid manager oh yeah yeah i mean i just just what just wave them off and just stay there pretty much yeah oh i might just stick around for a bit actually

1:30:14Charlie Eccleshare:Job is a sort of holiday rip When you're in Valorado For me everything just keeps coming back to Real Madrid Do you think? I have this vague memory of there being an all English final And in England But I can't back it up with who those teams were The Chelsea Man City one was 2021 Where was that? I don't know It wasn't in England was it? I can't pick I have this picture of it being in England but I think it's just because the two teams were English

1:30:47are you thinking of a Premier League game are you thinking of a Premier League match come to think of it they played it with a Premier League ball and it was yeah should we just go Real Madrid and put everybody out of our misery let's be honest yeah okay okay

1:31:03Charlie Eccleshare:okay you're going Real Madrid Real Madrid as you said did win the Champions League three times in a row in 2015-16 they beat Atletico Madrid that was in the San Siro 2016-17 they beat Juventus in the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff 2017-18 they beat Liverpool 3-1 in Kiev the answer is Dortmund in 1997 who won the Champions League in the old Olympia Stadion in Munich oh long time ago should have got that one shouldn't we it's so long ago Oh, I think we can forgive ourselves for that. You were savernly. We're going back to Spain with our next question. Order the following La Liga clubs in the 2025-26 season by geographical location from north to south.

1:31:54Ooh, that's good. A, Elche, B, Getafe, C, Mallorca, and D, Real Betis. From north to south.

1:32:05Charlie Eccleshare:So, Elche, Getafe, Mallorca, Betis? Exactly. So, Getafe is Madrid, isn't it? Yes. Yes, it is. And Betis is obviously in the south. Betis is the other Seville club. Yeah. Mallorca. Mallorca is obviously more south than that. It's the island. Well, no, no. It's not the Canaries, Mallorca. It's out to the side. Barlieric? Yeah, exactly. Going there on holiday this summer, actually. Gorgeous part of the world. Elche probably, I believe. Where's Elche? That's the one. That's the kicker here. I don't know. I think. I don't know where Elche is. I'm going to fess up. No, I don't know where Elche is. It's got a Basque vibe to it, but doesn't have a Basque name.

1:32:54Charlie Eccleshare:Or actually is, yeah. I mean, Basque is up high, isn't it? Yeah. Basque is up near France. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, actually, is this a question of. As they've said it. It's a question of, we don't know where Elche is, let's be honest, based on the four options, just in terms of how they would construct the question. I'm confident that Elche, Getafe, Elche is north, Getafe is Madrid. And it's which one of Betis and Mallorca is actually highest. They're both southern. Yeah, I think Mallorca, the island of Mallorca will be more northern than Seville. Yeah, I think so too. Because it's off to the east.

1:33:37Charlie Eccleshare:It's basically Barcelona and east, I think. Yeah. Down a bit southeast. So I'm happy with Seville being more southern than Mallorca. Yeah, I think so. Elche being more north than all of them. Elche would have to just be sort of knocking about in the lower third. We don't know where Elche is. So I think we've got to put them north, haven't we? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not a clue. And then what do we think, though? essentially Madrid or Mallorca. Dead centre, isn't it, Old Madrid? Yeah. A lot of altitude. So we're going to go for Elche, Getafe, Real Mallorca, Real Betis. North to south. Happy with that?

1:34:18Yeah. That's our final answer. It would really have helped if we'd know where Elche was. Yeah, we don't know where Elche is, so that is our final answer.

1:34:25Charlie Eccleshare:How could it be? It couldn't be any more south than Seville or Mallorca, could it? so it literally could be sort of Cadiz you'd hope not but yeah I don't know we'll find out we'll find out and we are about to find out it's going to be a lot of fun finding out yeah so you're quite right saying Real Betis come from Seville of course which is very far south in Spain but El Che are based on the south east coast oh no so the order Getafe are the southernmost of the four La Liga clubs in Madrid but that's still no Getafe are the northernmost mate The southernmost of the four clubs in Madrid. Still further north than the Balearic Island of Mallorca, which is second.

1:35:10So it's Catafé North, Mallorca second, Elche third, Betis fourth, slightly further south than Elche, who were apparently the real difficult one here. That was the banana skin. Ultimately not knowing Elche cost us, but that's fine.

1:35:24Charlie Eccleshare:Great to see. That was the closest the sweeper get to passive aggression there, correcting themselves. That was really nice to see. Good to know you've got it in your locker. The score remains five all as we go into the final pair of questions, respectively. Wow. Wow. Charlie, hit them with question five. Huge. Huge. Question five. Which World Cup remains unique for deciding that all drawn group stage games should go to extra time? Only two games were affected and neither produced a winner anyway. Group stage draws went to extra time at one World Cup. I know that the 1950 World Cup had that format where there wasn't a final.

1:36:09That was like the weirdest format that I can think of because Uruguay played against Brazil, but it was a decider, but it wasn't technically a final. Did they make it a mini league kind of for that one? Yeah. Okay. so i wonder if that's somehow connected if it's somewhere between in the gap there between then and sort of my world cup knowledge in my lifetime then then i i just if it's between 1950 and 1994 or whatever then we're screwed small if it's in that small uh blind spot in my knowledge then then it's going to be tough for me me too me too me too uh i mean yeah for me it starts in Italia 90 and onwards and it certainly isn't any of those so is it definitely not I'm pretty good on the World Cup early years but I've never heard of this before so I would I would probably go to I'd probably just think of 1950 because it was a weird year for formats let's do it yeah I think I have nothing really to offer I mean it I don't think it was 66 right I mean we've heard a lot about that tournament I don't remember that although neither the no game actually the rule doesn't sound like it was actually ever activated so we didn't do a weird thing at like usa 94 did they no because they liked they liked odd things there they did a lot of weird things they didn't do that well two games two games were affected oh two games were affected no so yeah okay i i i'm so sure that hasn't happened in my football lifetime which basically started in 1990 i'm i'm so sure it's not since then it didn't happen in like what was it 82 where austria played out the draw because there would be no point in playing out a draw if they're going to force you to extra time in the in the hope of finding a winner.

1:37:49I think it's got to be early when football was a bit nonsense. So I'm willing to go with 50, Lee. I've got nothing to really offer. The answer is Switzerland, 1954.

1:38:04Charlie Eccleshare:Oh, that's so close. A ludicrous tournament. The highest scoring World Cup ever. Also, on top of that, four groups of four and each team only played two other countries for some reason. And then if you would level on points at the end of it, you had to play that team in a playoff. That stupid tournament. Completely, completely screwed it up. But things are crystal clear here because it's five all and there's one question left and it's for us. If we get this, we have won at the death again against the sweeper. Heads on. I'm getting flashbacks. Yeah, I am too. Question five. Put the following UEFA Champions League one-season wonders in chronological order based on their sole appearance in the group or league phase.

1:38:55The four clubs are Bursaspor, Art Media Bratislava, Willem Tve and Arlborg. Right. Willem Tve I think was like 98, 99, something like that. I remember becoming aware of them around then, and I think that's probably why.

1:39:20Charlie Eccleshare:We know the 20s got in the mix in the 2000s, late 2000s. But yeah, it would seem strange for them both to be in the mix. So I like your instincts there. So would the Dutch League have had a couple of places then? Because they didn't win the league, did they, Willem Tve? That was the first year, because that was around when they started introducing it for second places. or second team exactly yeah United when they won the treble had come second the previous season now Art Media Bratislava beat Celtic in the qualifiers like famously like completely dumped Celtic out in the qualifiers and I'm desperately trying to think I'm thinking there's quite a lot of those aren't there oh no absolutely yeah but this was this was particularly bad I think they absolutely thrashed them in the first leg it was like a complete debacle and I'm thinking early 2010s that's that's Was that when they had that, what was that guy?

1:40:14Charlie Eccleshare:Ronnie Dealer? Ronnie Dealer, he was like mid, he was like 2014. It might have been someone more hapless than him, to be honest. Wow. So early is 2010s. It wasn't, yeah, yeah. So was Bursa Sport fairly recently? Ronnie Dealer, more like Ronnie Barker. Was it the game? Was it the game that was on Sky Sports News? Delia Smith. Take your pick, Andy. Andy McAnally. Is it Andy McInerney? Alan McInerney. Was it the game on Sky Sports News when Alan McInerney went absolutely crazy? Because I think it might have been Art Media. Anyway, it's early to mid 2010s for Art Media. We're going to go late 90s for Willem Tve.

1:40:59Charlie Eccleshare:Bursa Spor feel very... That was quite recent, wasn't it? You think? Or maybe I'm confusing them. I mean, there was Istanbul... Basakir. Yeah, Basakir. Bursa Spor haven't been in the Champions League for a long time. They feel very mid-2000s to me, Bursa Spore. So how about, and then Alborg being the first ones? So what do we think about Alborg? Is it not always? No, I think that's going back. I think that could be the first one. Feels like, yeah, they could have won the Swedish league. So they're Danish. Or Danish, right? Yeah, they're Danish. Those leagues up there. Copenhagen have had a stranglehold on the Danish league in recent times.

1:41:48Charlie Eccleshare:Oh, Bursa Sport is really hard to play. So my instinct here is Arbog first, which I'm not massively confident about, but I also don't remember them recently. Then we'll go for Bursa... Sorry, Arbog, then Willem Tve, then Bursa Sport, then Art Media. Yeah, that's... I mean, I just... Yeah, I can't... I have like a... I feel like Bursa Sport entered my consciousness more recently, but that might be because of something else. so I'm happy with that as an order we do need to get this right to win this we do I've got no other logic left for this question Charlie's got some vibes some instincts Dave doesn't know where Arlborg are from that's where we stand so we're going to go for Arlborg Willem Tve Bursaspore Art Media and that's in chronological order first of all in 1995 to 96 was Arlborg They were actually knocked out in qualifying by Dynamo Kiev But they were then removed from the competition For a failed attempt to bribe the referee And Albor were reinstated I think they'd actually played a game Second, Willem Zveith 1999-2000 That was excellent recall Then the next one In 2005-2006 Oh, this is big Was Was Art Media Bursa Spor.

1:43:11Oh, no. And then Bursa Spor won the Turkish Super League in 2010, and they played in 2010 to 2011. So Charlie's vibes were on point.

1:43:23Charlie Eccleshare:They were, as they so often are. It is five all at the end of the quiz. Well, that is indeed a draw. What a draw that was, by the way. One of the lowest scoring cliches quizzes of all time. It's Football Clichés 5, The Sweeper 5, we're not in the mood for a tie break there's something noble about accepting a draw and appreciating your foe well done the sweeper um i think your reputation has very much been restored in the quiz sphere um great to have you thank you that was it was great fun thank you so much for having us sometimes when someone says something like willem twee feel like a 1999 kind of thing you're like yeah we're dealing with pros here amongst friends as well um thanks to you charlie Eccleshire.

1:44:07Thank you. Thanks so much, guys. Great questions.

1:44:09Charlie Eccleshare:Thanks to you, David Walker. Thank you. Thanks to everyone for listening. If you did make this far, it's a pleasure to have you. And we'll be back on Tuesday. See you then.