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21:03Tim will know exactly what the emotions will be like on Tyneside this evening. It's been the story in Newcastle's season. I think that's 22 points dropped from winning positions this season. They can't keep clean sheets. The defence looks like an accident waiting to happen. Look, they started well. For half an hour, they were the better team. Anthony Gordon scores. Sven Bottman hits the post with a header. But in the second half, they completely lost their way. They lost their cohesion. They lost their organisation. and they were far too open and far too easy to play against. And what it does is I think this is the biggest crisis of Eddie Howe's four and a half year reign as manager because that is the power of the derby.

21:40He's not just lost once to Sunderland, he's lost twice. He's the first Newcastle manager to ever lose his first two league games against Sunderland. There is a lot of anger about now. There's a lot of emotion about, I think, the anger that has been bubbling away on social media all season has transferred to the stands now. The team were booed off. Eddie was booed there are a lot of calls for him to go I don't think the club are the club are going to stay out of that sort of emotion they want to be a stable calm well-run football club they think Eddie Howe is the right manager to rebuild the team in the summer I agree with them I think he's overachieved for four years as Newcastle manager this is his first disappointing season it's really really bad result a very very painful result but I think whatever happens between now and the end of the season, I think he deserves the chance to rebuild the team in the summer.

22:28Nobody's going to change my mind about that. You don't go from being the most successful manager in the club's modern history to a clown or a failure in the space of a year. So it was a year ago they won the Carabao Cup final. But there are big, big problems there. It looks like a team to me that's reached the end of its shelf life, if I'm honest, Aaron. There are players there I don't think are good enough to be there. I think there are players there who want to leave or have got one eye on leaving I think it's a bit of a mess but they've got the international break and I still wouldn't rule out Newcastle qualifying for Europe in some way shape or form this season but just a really really bad day from a Newcastle's perspective and I've never in the four and a half years since the takeover that is the most angry and disillusioned the Newcastle United supporters have been in that time so it's a very it's a pivotal moment and we're going to find out a little bit more about what sort of club they want to do because there will always be a temptation when the fans are angry to sack a manager that's just the nature of football I don't think that's going to happen I think everybody I've spoken to this evening is calm and collected about it.

23:24Aaron Paul:It's something we keep hearing about, though. The fans, and I know social media is a wild place, and fans in the heat of the moment have this feeling that, well, I mean, the world's imploding, if you like. Yeah, that's exactly what it felt like. You do feel like that. But why do we keep hearing it about Eddie Howe? Newcastle fans going, yeah, you know what? It's time. It's time. It's time. He's taking the club to the end of the road. Is that true? So, Tim, are we beginning to see the end of the Eddie Howe reign at Newcastle? Or do you back Luke in saying, yes, he will rebuild this squad. He'll rebuild and go again and go V2.

24:00There's a lot to digest there, I think. I mean, we all know you're only as good as your last game or last two games. Two weeks ago, they draw with Barcelona at home. And then they beat Chelsea away. And then the last two results clearly getting hammered by Barcelona. And then losing the derby. And this is where you need calm heads. but I totally understand why the fans will be disappointed, to say the least. And rightly so. I think that second-half performance was nowhere near good enough for the Newcastle shirt. And I do think Eddie Howe is still the right man. I do think he earns the right to rebuild that group.

24:35I think the credit he deserves after winning that trophy, not just that, finishing fourth, sixth. He's done amazing. And the perception of the city, not just the club, he's changed that. with performances the last few years. I do believe Eddie is the right man for the job, but there has to be some changes, clearly, over the summer. I think new players coming in this summer haven't performed that we all thought they would. I think they spent quite a lot of money on Walter Marder and Wissa. I mean, we haven't seen Wissa performing yet. If you compare him with Thiago at Brentford, who scored 20-plus goals already, I think there's a big difference there, clearly.

25:14Walter Marder ending up in midfield. even though everybody thought he was a number nine. So there's lots and lots happening there behind the scenes. 50 games plus already they've played. I think that clearly it's got something to do with it. And they haven't got the squad to deal with that compared to the arsenals and the cities. And I think those are the big points where the club is at. It's been a chastening week, Luke, for Newcastle United.

25:39Aaron Paul:And I want to heap praise on Sunderland, but this story is massive. Tim's talked about a rebuild. You talked about a rebuild. how big is this rebuild going to be are we talking minor nips and tucks or we saying yeah full gut out scaffolding up it's kind of your way we were sometimes yeah there's going to be big changes there needs to be big changes that the the they got themselves into a mess in the summer and we do have to go back to that they sold alexander isak on deadline day having assisted all summer that he wasn't for sale. They then rushed into signing Nick Voltemada, who's totally unsuitable as a number nine in an Eddie Howe team.

26:17And I think the jury's out on whether he's ever going to succeed in English football, whether he's got the profile to do it as a number nine. And then Wisser, they didn't want to sign either of those players at the end of July. And then they panicked. And when Isak was sold with less than 24 hours of the window remaining, they went and signed Wisser. They'd already bought Voltemada in. They made a huge mess of that. So that, I think, has killed them really all season in that you take Alexander Isak out of your team, it's going to hit you. That's like taking Harry Kane out of Spurs or Harry Kane out of Bayern Munich.

26:46That's how important Isak was to Newcastle. Not only did they lose Isak and sold him at the worst possible time, and for me, and I said at the time, the worst possible circumstances, having said he wasn't for sale all summer. They then signed an unsuitable number nine and one who just looked way short and has offered absolutely nothing in Wissler, who was then, tonight, liked Brian Broby's Man of the Match Award post on Instagram. I mean, you just don't do that as a Newcastle United player. I mean, I know we're talking silly social media things, and it might have been liked by somebody else in his team and not him directly, but how bad are the optics of that, that you're liking the post of the player who just scored the winning goal in the last minute of the Tyne Weir Derby?

27:31so I think they will have to sell either one of Volta Marder or Wissa but I think your problems you've then got is who else goes I think Liveramento goes I think Liveramento has been really poor when he's come on he's come back from injury really poor for the second goal today I think then you've got question marks about Bruno linked with Manchester United you've got doubts over Sandro Tonali you'll have doubts over Anthony Gordon as well so I think they will lose Liveramento I think they will have to take a loss on Wisser just to get him out the door. And then it's which one of those big players do they lose as well?

28:06Because I think they will lose one of them. So these are all the negative things hanging around in the background. This is all the kind of outside noise of Newcastle season. Which players are going to leave? Which players are they going to lose? And I don't think that helps at all. So I think it will be a big rebuild in the summer. Because if you lose one of those key players, you're going to get big money. Don't get me wrong. You're going to get huge money for them. You're going to make a nice big fat profit from those players. but they've got to get their recruitment right and last summer's recruitment unfortunately mainly in the strikers position but I don't think a language where they didn't get the recruitment right last season they missed out on all their top targets had to move further down the list that has left the squad as Tim has very correctly said that they've played more games than anyone else it hasn't been able to cope with fighting on four fronts this season and everything's blown up so a big big summer but obviously I can back Eddie Howe as much as I want I can say he's the right man for the job as Tim has and I firmly firmly believe that he is but you've still got he's still got to show something between now and the end of the season.

28:59There's got to be some positivity. There's got to be some momentum. It can't fully implode this season. They've got to try and get back into Europe. And I think if they do that, they've just got to get that recruitment right. Because I think you will see a lot of changes, to answer your question, Aaron. Thank you, Mr. Tonali, obviously, today. Bruno today. And that's unfortunate when we talk about the squad not being able to cope. Newcastle is not able to lose or go without these kind of players. And that's unfortunate where you've seen, as normal, 50 games is a lot there. Yeah, seven big finals coming up.

29:31Like Luke said, reaching Europe is a great achievement. I think if you ask any fan at the start of the season to be in the last 16 of the Champions League and finishing top 10 or even top 8 and get another Europe journey, I think they would have signed up for that. But yeah, at the moment, it will hurt. I don't think any Newcastle fan wants to hear any positives today or tomorrow. And I think, and rightly so, So, you know, and Eddie will be the first person to say that, that they haven't lived up to the expectations today and they didn't show up for that second half. So they have to take the punches.

30:02People have to look in the mirror and brush themselves up as a club and go again and make sure that last seven games are not getting lost as well.

30:10Aaron Paul:Let's talk England because Thomas Tuchel has named his squad for the friendlies against Uruguay and Japan. A first call up for James Garner. We'll come on to him shortly. But there's no place for Danny Welbeck. He responded to that setback with another brace for Brighton, helping them to a 2-1 home win over Liverpool. Should he have been in the England squad, Luke? There's a very strong argument for it. I mean, he's missed out to what Dominic Calvert-Lewin. Obviously, Anthony Gordon can play through the middle. I think when you look at Danny Welbeck, and I think you have to look at the whole package, yeah, he's the wrong side of 30.

30:44Yes, he's in the twilight of his career, but he's been really, really good for Brighton and his scoring goals and playing well. but it's also people who know him say he's a great team player he's great behind you know it's not a social occasion in a world cup don't get me wrong but as tim will know there's a lot of hanging around there's a lot of sitting around in the team hotel there's going to training long evenings bringing people together from different clubs and bringing them all together people who talk about danny welbert say what a great team guy he is and what a popular person he is in the changing room so for me it's not just about the fact he's done really well on the pitch i also think dominic Calvert-Lewin's done really good.

31:21I think you can make an argument for both of them in the season they've had. But it's just, do you want to pass up that kind of glue, social glue behind the scenes that Danny Welbeck could be? Because let's face it, Harry Kane's going to be playing for England as the striker, injury permitting. You're not really going to be needed that much. So I think if they take three central strikers, I would have taken Welbeck. But I think the problem is Calvert-Lewin's got the nod for this squad. I can't see that unless Calvert-Lewin gets injured that Welbeck would be drafted in. And Gordon's emergence as a centre-forward probably means Tuchel doesn't think he needs to take two backups to Harry Kane.

31:57Aaron Paul:Tim, for you, Danny Welbeck, I mean, now the highest English Premier League goal scorer this season, 12 goals. We know what he brings. Can he do it in an England shirt? Well, could he have done it in an England shirt? Or is he just really, really well suited to this Brighton side? Well, he's evolved. And I think he's like a fine wine because he's clearly proven at a great club like Brighton to not just be that number nine and running him behind. He's becoming this kind of all-round striker, in my opinion. So, again, like Luke made a couple of good points. He is a squad. You need squad players.

32:32You can't just bring 25, 26 or 23, whatever, how many players you're allowed to take. But just individuals, you need to think about the team cohesive as well. And this is where Thomas Tuchel, he's got so many amazing individual players to choose from and he's going to leave a lot of players at home that he not necessarily don't think are good enough but maybe not really fit in that kind of team spirit. And I think that was one of the reasons when I was part of the Dutch squad in 2014, Louis van Gaal left some unbelievable players at home because he knew how important those number 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 who don't get that many minutes but how important it is for an impact on the pitch but even more important off the pitch supporting that starting 11.

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36:13Aaron Paul:On the Football Daily Podcast, Premier League Review with Aaron Paul. Welcome back to Premier League Review. Before the break, I ask you to name the top five penalty takers in Premier League history with Raul Jimenez, top of that pile. So, number one is, of course, Raul Jimenez, who scored 14 of 14. The next taker has scored 11 from 11. Anyone? Any guesses? Tony. Ivan Tony. Ivan Tony's not on the list. Matt Letizia. No, he's in at number three, Matt Letizia. Ricky Lambert scored loads. Not in the Premier League, Tim. He's not on the list. No, so we've got Matt Letizia. That's come from Luke. Who else we got on there?

36:55Aaron Paul:Come on, guys. You've got to look at the top five. numbers of these. Frank Lampard. Frank Lampard is not on that list. Bruno Fernandes. He's not on the list either. Oh my God. How is he not on the list? That's ridiculous. Hazard. Hazard. Yeah, it's quite some unbelievable ones to me. By the way, on Bruno Fernandes, he scored 26 penalties but missed six. So the percentile is not the one. He misses out because of the maths. Tell me if you give up. I give up. I always give up. Shall I give you some clues on some players? Go on then, give me a clue. This young man spent a bit of time on Tyneside recently, following his former manager from the South Coast.

37:36Aaron Paul:He now applies his trade in the East End of London. You know exactly who he is, Luke. Callum Wilson. Yeah, he's in at number five, in at number four. Match of the day, pundit. Scored a very, very famous goal for Fulham to keep them in the Premier League. Spent time at Liverpool, Spurs and Charlton. Who are we having? Come on. No, who's the American centre-forward? he did not play for Charlton Athletic he didn't he didn't play for Liverpool either but apart from that I've done well Danny Murphy Danny Murphy in at number 4 Danny Murphy 3 of course was Matty Letizia 2 was the man who got annoyed with his the birthday cake situation come on everyone knows him Torre Yaya Torre Yaya Torre yeah 11 from 11 and he scored 100 % of his penalty kicks.

38:28Aaron Paul:James Beattie in at six, Julian Dix at seven, Cole Palmer at eight, Bakaya Saka at nine, and Thierry Henry, who scored 23 of his 25 penalties, is in at 10. Tim, by the way, of those penalties that we talked about, you conceded two of those, Danny Murphy and Callum Wilson, scoring past you. Yeah, correct. And Raul Jimenez scored one in international friendly against you back in 2020. He's just nodding along just to say, yeah, get on with it. Let's talk Liverpool. We discussed Brighton and Danny Welwett before the break. On to Liverpool. Rob Green said the spine of the team is not there on commentary duty with Five Live.

39:08Aaron Paul:Virgil van Dijk has been prickly to similar criticism from Wayne Rooney this season, but he was personally outdone for two of the goals. What is going on at Anfield, Luke? Well, they are the first team, I think, in Premier League history to break the British transfer record twice in one summer, spend£450 million on a new team and get worse. So there are a lot of clubs who've had some drama this season, some negativity, some criticism. Liverpool deserve it as well. The only thing that's really saving them is that Champions League campaign. The fact that they're still in Europe, much like 2005, when they won it, of course.

39:45There is this hope that Arna Slott and the team can save their best till Europe. you can't rule it out. This is Liverpool. They have a fantastic record in Europe and seem to be a different force. But they, a bit like Newcastle in a way, which is what's ridiculous because they obviously took Alexander Isak from Newcastle, but they didn't need Isak and Eketike. They signed the same player and spent a huge amount of money to do so. They needed one of them and they needed to sign, you know, they needed to improve other areas of the team, the defence. I think you're seeing, and I think we've seen enough body of evidence now to say it that Van Dijk is the wrong side of 30.

40:24He's ageing. He's not the same. He's still very good, but he's not the elite supreme centre-back that he once was. And the huge drop-off in Mo Salah. Mo Salah's not the same player for Liverpool. You know, he wanted to leave in December and we all thought he'd go in January. He's still there, but he's not delivering the same things. And then you've got Wurz, who has shown flashes, but probably still hasn't done enough to justify the huge amount of money spent on him. And obviously, Isak is out injured. So the team looks unbalanced. They lost Trent Alexander-Arnold. I think that's huge for them.

40:57I think he just balanced the way they play. He was key with his passing range, the way he moved into midfield and his long passing, the way he dovetailed with Salah. They just got weaker. And you do have to ask huge question marks about their recruitment. And they have been doing this all season. You know, they never quite managed to turn a corner. They never quite managed to put a truly persuasive run together. And like Eddie Howe, Arna Slott, you know, will be under growing pressure. Because if they do go out of the Champions League before reaching the final or the latter stages, and then they're at risk of dropping out of the top five and missing out on Champions League football, that's a disastrous season for Liverpool.

41:37So we have all these end-of-season stories building up. But Slott, make no mistake about it, is under huge pressure. He won the league last season, but he did it with Jurgen Klopp's team. Brilliant achievement. Nobody's ever taken that away from him. But then, you know, there is criticism growing of him and there is pressure. And I think personally they've had a really, really bad season because they got the balance of their recruitment wrong. When everybody was back slapping at the end of August, when they got Isaac and Eketike and they've won the transfer window and look at us, aren't we brilliant?

42:07I don't think they gave the manager the right balance of squad and they're paying the price for that. They've won the transfer window.

42:14Aaron Paul:It's like the fourth place trophy. It's so boring. And everyone says it. Everyone says it. So bad. Tim, tell us about your countrymen on a slot. I mean, since winning their opening five games of the season, Liverpool have only won nine of their next 26. So that's a 34 % win rate. What do you look at when you see an Arna Slott side? And does he get the opportunity to fix this mess? Yeah, I think so. I think Luke made a couple of good points there. I do think the recruitment is clearly very much responsible. That's not just Arne Slott. That's, I think, the club and the people behind the scenes as much as Arne.

42:50Losing, Diaz, Trent. And don't forget the Jota situation would clearly have a massive impact on that team. And it's so something that people underestimate how important the team is behind the scenes. And not just off the pitch, but he was a top-top player on the pitch. The amount of times he changed games last season and won it for Liverpool in the last minute. He's a massive loss. And yeah, you mentioned obviously Virgil van Dijk. And I don't think necessarily just him. I think it's the people next to him as well. When you look at Kirkus on the left back and Konati, in my opinion, both of those players have been average to say the least.

43:27And Virgil is one of those. I think if you put players, if you say put Margei next to Virgil van Dijk this season, I think we would have had not these kind of conversations we'll have tonight. Small margins, but I agree with you clearly for Liverpool standards, it hasn't been nowhere near good enough. They're still in the Champions League, so yes, you're right. If they win that, clearly it's been a successful season and things will have to happen. There's some decisions in Liverpool team that needs to be improved. Like I said, they've missed Alisson heavily, I think, for a few games. Salah clearly hasn't hit the heights, so there you go.

44:01That's a few reasons there.

44:02Aaron Paul:let's go to the blue half of Merseyside and Everton channel the Goodison Energy for arguably one of the most memorable days yet at their new ground putting three past Chelsea without reply two from Beto one from Illiman and Jai and that just lumps the pressure on Liam Rosinia but let's focus on Everton to start with they've not played in the Champions League since 1971 with the fact There is that fifth place on offer now, potentially, Luke. Or sixth and seventh if some other results fall, isn't it? If Aston Villa win the Europa League and Liverpool win the Champions League, isn't sixth? Doesn't that get you Champions League next season?

44:39It's some mind-boggling permutations that go on. Look, David Moyes, he did it in his first spell. They say never go back. That's like one of the golden rules of management, is it? Because you never go back because your second spell will never be as good as your first. Well, David Moyes is proving that wrong. did this in his first spell at Everton, saved them from relegation, then took them to the fringes of the Champions League. I think they qualified, didn't they, one year, but then got knocked out in the qualifying rounds, if my memory serves me correctly. Brilliant job. And I think people who have been watching Everton this season and that move to the new stadium, it's interesting, isn't it?

45:11Because Tottenham's has suffered. Their home form has suffered and Everton's initially suffered at the start of the season. But the Blue Scousers have managed to quite quickly turn that atmosphere around and people were talking about the atmosphere against Chelsea has been as good and as loud and as intimidating as anything there was at Goodison Park so that's huge for them and you know they've done it quietly they've done it away from the spotlight they've done it without pressure and that always makes the team dangerous it'll be interesting to see how they do now that they're sort of getting a bit closer and people will be looking at it saying oh are Everton going to get Champions League they're suddenly being talked about as outsiders as the Champions League, whether that changes the dynamic.

45:49But what a job David Moyes has done. What a hero he is for Everton Football Club. And, you know, it's not about them, but I'm going to bring them into it because of all the stupid, ridiculous decisions that West Ham made. Getting rid of David Moyes, the man who won you a European trophy and had them pushing for Europe then as well. I'm replacing it with the, I'm going to have to choose my words carefully, the managerial merry-go-round that has followed. That will go down as a huge turning point in West Ham's history.

46:16Aaron Paul:Absolutely. Just on Everton, Tim, your thoughts, because they're three points off of the European Cup players, three points off of Liverpool. This could be a real season to remember for them in their first season at their new home. They're winning off the pitch with that stadium and they're backing it up on the pitch. I mean, they've got some top, top players in that squad. You've got Ndai, who I love watching. You've got Garno, obviously, performing in midfield. Pickford showing and saving some amazing shots this season. Tarkovsky being that leader. so yeah they've got a nice mix of top top players and having a manager clearly who's been there done it at multiple clubs so yeah the signs are looking really positive for everything and yeah what a great club If he gets Champions League Manager of the Year David Moyes there's my shout I don't care if Mikel Arteta wins the league I don't care I don't care if Pep Guardiola does the Carabao Cup and Premier League double Keith Andrews don't care what he does with Brentford Everton get into the Champions League David Roy's manager of the season?

47:18Aaron Paul:Someone who won't be winning any prizes this season is Liam Rosinia. Chelsea's failure last night came from a lack of hard running and it really has been a common theme but this is an absolutely extraordinary stat. Chelsea have been outrun by every Premier League opponent in every Premier League game this season. They've also lost well now lost three of their last four Premier League games including that 8-2 aggregate defeat to Paris Saint-Germain. Paris Saint-Germain Paris Saint-Germain and they failed to score in three consecutive games I don't know what to say anymore with regards to Liam Rossini I thought he was settling into life quite nicely at Stamford Bridge and it was ticking over but the wheels have well and truly fallen off in the past few weeks Tim Yeah I think the start was great we just spoke about managers coming in and having an impact I think the first 10 games I think they only lost two and that was against Arsenal the problem is when you keep chopping and changing these managers is different ideas, they've got so many players first of all they've got 30 plus players on 8 year contracts and that clearly will have a massive impact on the hierarchy and the respect for managers coming in because those players are going to be in that changing room when things are going bad, are the first ones to point fingers to the manager or collect the little groups and they are going to outlast this manager, most likely.

48:43And I think that's the trouble you've got at Chelsea at the moment. You need a manager, and if Liam is the guy, you need to make sure, right, he's going to be there for six years and going to have that respect of that changing room. But ultimately, you need that performances and results. And losing 3-0 against Everton are not going to give you that confidence. I hope he can turn it around. I hope he's going to get a summer to prove himself, because I played with Liam at Brighton when he was still playing, and he absolutely loves football, but you need a lot more to be a manager at Chelsea, clearly.

49:17Tim makes a really good point there about players outliving managers. We've seen it at Tottenham as well, haven't we? There's been an accusation levelled at that Tottenham dressing room for a long time, at the Manchester United dressing room for a long time. So, Rosinias, you can still salvage this. It's not terminal, the position they're in. but it's not good when you're being mocked. Yeah, it's not good when you're being mocked openly by rival fans and the media because that would be getting into the dressing room as well.

49:47Aaron Paul:But Luke, he's not being mocked by rival fans. He's being mocked by his own. Well, that's even worse, yes, admittedly. Champions League football is the be-all end of football club this season. They have to get in the Champions League because, again, they're a weirdly run football club and I think the fans are quite right. I mean, I've said it before but they're more like a football recruitment business than a football club built to be successful as a team and that needs to change. And Resinia isn't necessarily a problem there. That's the people above him. Gentlemen, it's been an absolute joy spending my Sunday evening with you.

50:19Aaron Paul:Luke, go and get yourself some scrum. Is it a Sunday night curry? It's not. It's going to be a Sunday night Chinese. Oh, stunning. What's the order? Beef in black bean sauce. Yeah. My wife will have aromatics. The sundry items? There will be egg fried rice. there will be chips and there'll be prawn crackers. And then I'll be job done. Then I'll go to bed. Happy days. Tim, you are an athlete. You don't eat Chinese food like that, mate. No, forget the body. I was keeping this body in it. Great to have you on with us, Tim. Thank you, Luke. Enjoy your Sunday night dinner. That is all we've got time for on the Premier League Review.

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