PL Review: VAR decides title and relegation?

10 May 2026 · 41 min · 18 chapters

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In short

Premier League Review of the title race and VAR impact, focusing on Arsenal’s 83rd-minute win at West Ham, a decisive injury-time VAR ruling for a foul on David Raya, and what it means for the championship and relegation. Also covers Liverpool’s slump under Arne Slot, Chelsea’s poor season, Manchester United’s Champions League qualification, and the race for European places (Bournemouth/Brighton/Villa/Brentford).

Guests

Clinton Morrison (former Premier League striker; football pundit) and Luke Edwards (Telegraph Northern football writer). Rick Edwards hosts.

Key claims

VAR’s call was “100% spot on” despite West Ham arguing inconsistency; Arsenal’s title is now “in their hands” with two wins needed; Arsenal’s defining moments include David Raya’s save and Odegaard’s composure for Trossard’s goal; Liverpool’s issues are “passive” play and recruitment/identity problems; Chelsea need a coach/manager and recruitment has been “nowhere near good enough”; Michael Carrick’s Man United job delay is “optics” and uncertainty around candidates like Arne Slot.

Notable examples

Raya denying Bruno Fernandes; Trossard’s first goal in 25 games; West Ham captain Jarrod Bowen criticizing VAR “clear and obvious” standards; Liverpool booing Slot at Anfield; Sunderland match as a “flaky” reminder for Man United.

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Arsenal's Dramatic Victory

2:35 to 3:56

Discussion on Arsenal's win against West Ham and the critical VAR decision.

“The definition of high drama with, I think, the biggest VAR call in the history of VAR in this country.”

VAR Controversies and Decisions

3:56 to 6:54

In-depth analysis of the VAR decision that impacted the match outcome.

“The only thing is, and I hadn't seen this in real time at all, but on the multiple times that you watched the VAR screens back, what Declan Rice is doing in the background, I'm like, that is very dangerous, my friend.”

David Raya's Key Save

6:54 to 10:19

Examining David Raya's crucial save and its potential impact on the title race.

“so you've got to give them But do you know what I mean though if you're having to review that tape that many times how can that be clear?”

Trossard's Game-Winning Goal

10:19 to 13:20

Analysis of Leandro Trossard's winning goal and its significance for Arsenal.

“Just wishing there, Clinton Morrison playing for them.”

Looking Ahead to the Title Race

13:20 to 14:00

Discussion on Arsenal's upcoming matches and the title race implications.

“It was just that ability to live in the moment, just compose himself, look at his options and then pick out the pass that creates the goal.”

Arsenal's Title Hopes

14:00 to 15:00

Discussion on Arsenal's chances of winning the title and Burnley's form.

“If Man City still win all their games, you never know.”

Man City's Dominance

15:00 to 16:00

Analysis of Man City's performance and their impact on the title race.

“You have to remember that we were all saying Liverpool were going to walk in.”

Key Players Rising

16:00 to 17:00

Evaluation of standout players like Trossard and Doku for their respective teams.

“Jeremy Dokku is stepping up for Manchester City now.”

Erling Haaland and Pep's Views

17:00 to 18:00

Overview of Haaland and Pep Guardiola's perspectives on Doku's contributions.

“I'm super happy for him because he's been working hard to try to improve his, I don't know how you say it, shooting and the passes and all these kind of things.”

Liverpool's Struggles

18:00 to 19:00

Examination of Liverpool's recent performance and fan discontent.

“Seven minutes they were, plus added on time.”
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Transfer Concerns for Liverpool

19:00 to 21:00

Discussion on Liverpool's transfer strategy and impact on the team.

“I would love to speak to a Liverpool fan and see what they think about him.”

Arna Slott's Management Challenges

21:00 to 23:00

Insights on Arna Slott's management style and the challenges he faces.

“I don't know if you suffered your way through it, Luke.”

Football Writers Association Award Trivia

28:49 to 29:45

The panel discusses past winners of the Football Writers Association Men's Football of the Year Award.

“Before the break, I asked you, three different Portuguese players have won the Football Writers Association Men's Football of the Year Award.”

Manchester United's Recent Performance

29:45 to 34:39

A deep dive into Manchester United's struggles and Michael Carrick's management.

“Yeah, he would have voted for these players.”

Optics and Managerial Decisions at Manchester United

34:39 to 36:41

Discussion on the management decisions regarding Michael Carrick and other candidates.

“I've seen bits and pieces of the game and Sunderland should have won.”

The Race for European Football

36:41 to 41:39

Analysis of the top teams competing for European spots in the Premier League.

“So there must be something and I think Eriola's availability this summer has caused them to pause.”

Praise for Nottingham Forest's Survival

41:39 to 42:00

A discussion on Nottingham Forest's season and their successful survival in the Premier League.

Newcastle vs. Forest Match Review

42:00 to 43:02

Discussion on the recent Newcastle vs. Nottingham Forest match and standout performances.

“Credit Forrest, because what they've got is five or six first-team players out missing, but they've got one individual who's been outstanding for them this season.”
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Transcript

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1:58Clinton Morrison:Manchester City have got a game in hand but it's all in Arsenal's hands. Win their next two games and they will be English champions for the first time in 22 years. Defeat for West Ham means Nottingham Forest are safe from relegation. It's come down to Spurs or West Ham now. Liverpool fans have made their frustration towards Arna Slott known again at Anfield. Bournemouth and Brighton keep their bid for Champions League football going as Aston Villa also falter. Analysis on all of that to come with former Premier League striker Old Gravy Shoes and Nostradamus, Clinton Morrison and the Telegraph's Northern football writer, Luke Edwards.

2:31Clinton Morrison:Hello, fellas. Good evening. That was good. Good evening, good morning. That was good. I mean, for a 1-0, that was an exciting game, I thought.

2:39Rick Edwards:High drama. The definition of high drama with, I think, the biggest VAR call in the history of VAR in this country.

2:50Clinton Morrison:I don't want to agree with you early on in the pod, but you're probably right, aren't you? I mean, it was massive. Very rarely do I feel any sympathy for any officials. But in that moment, I thought, wow, you know that everyone is going to be at you if you get this wrong. I think it was the right decision. Slightly disappointingly, from the point of view of the drama, it's a foul on David Raya, isn't it, Clinton?

3:17Luke Edwards:Yeah, yeah. I think there's two fouls. I think there's 25. Yeah, he's pulling. I think he's pulling on David Raya and Pablo's pinned him and you can't do that. Even though... Can you put your hand as a centre-forward, to be fair? Yeah, it's the right decision and it's the right call. And credit to Darren England because he makes the decision and he's the FA Cup final referee next weekend, Man City-Chelsea. So it's a big call and, yeah, it's a massive call and you have to get it right. But I think he gets it 100 % spot on. And, yeah, it's a great finish from Callum Wilson, by the way, who I'm surprised wasn't before Pablo.

3:48Luke Edwards:I don't get Nuno when he makes them kind of substitutions. But, yeah, credit to the VAR. They got it 100 % spot on. and it's now Arsenal's title. I think they win it now.

3:57Clinton Morrison:The only thing is, and I hadn't seen this in real time at all, but on the multiple times that you watched the VAR screens back, what Declan Rice is doing in the background, I'm like, that is very dangerous, my friend. Because he's just, he's the wrong side of his Mavropanos, isn't it? And he's just sort of bear-hugging him. And Mavropanos is sort of moving forward. And you're like, that, you know, that is a foul.

4:22Luke Edwards:Yeah, I agree with you.

4:23Clinton Morrison:That is a foul.

4:23Luke Edwards:And I thought maybe they were looking at that as well, the incident. But obviously, had a look at that incident and said it's not a foul, but then the foul by Pablo.

4:32Clinton Morrison:Or is it actually that they look at it and think the foul on Raya happens first and therefore that's the one that has to be called? Yeah, that's a good point. I guess it's that, is it, Luke?

4:42Rick Edwards:The first foul supersedes the second foul. Yeah, I think that's probably right. I mean, Darren England, I thought he handled it incredibly well. And there's no way we can talk about this decision and not upset anybody. We know, as I'm saying these words now, and I've had a little dip my toe into the shark-infested waters of social media this evening. And no matter what... Yes, one of life's real champions of free speech on social media and a target for abuse. But it's very harsh on West Ham. Very harsh. And you're in that stadium. the last 50 ,000 West Ham fans holding their breath, baying, players in your ear, managers in your ear, Arsenal players in your ear.

5:27Rick Edwards:And he's been sent over to that screen and it is just a foul. His arm is held throughout the entire incident. He can't move his arm freely. I know that they're going to be fans of rival clubs who are going to accuse Arsenal of the dark arts that set pieces this season. Arsenal have not only known every trick in the book, they've invented some new ones in terms of how...

5:49Clinton Morrison:That would be the sticker, I think, for West Ham fans and any other interested fans, is that Arsenal have done so much of that sort of jiggery-pokery, crowding the goalkeeper, getting away with it.

6:03Rick Edwards:Great use of the phrase jiggery-pokery. Yeah, but I think jiggery-pokery is about right, isn't it? I've heard that in the 1950s, but yes.

6:14Clinton Morrison:The other thing I was going to say is, And given that the referee doesn't spot it on field, is it clear and obvious?

6:23Rick Edwards:Oh, that's...

6:26Clinton Morrison:You know what? As soon as they have to watch it 15 times, it sort of tells me it can't be clear and obvious.

6:32Luke Edwards:No, that's a good point you make. But I think it's hard for the referee because there's so many bodies and it's crowded. He can only keep an eye on one or two things. And there was so much happening in the penalty area. And that is, the referee thinks it's a goal. like we all think it's a goal but then VAR that's what they're there for and that's what they did they didn't get it right a lot this weekend but I think they got this call 100 % spot on so you've got to give them But do you know what I mean though

6:55Clinton Morrison:if you're having to review that tape that many times how can that be clear? Let's see what West Ham's captain Jared Bowen said about it When you're looking at a screen for five minutes in the end you're going to find something that you've been sent over there to look at you know it's it's a lot of grappling there's a lot of holding in the box like I said if you look long enough I'm sure you'll find something that you know will give the goal against us. But do I think it's the right decision? No, but we have to accept it. The game's done now and we've lost. Where's the consistency? It's if no one wants, as a fan, as a viewer, you don't want to be celebrating the goal and then waiting eight minutes, whatever it was, and then have it taken off you.

7:32Clinton Morrison:A corner is a physical. The Premier League is physical. It's probably the most physical league in the world. That's why everyone loves it. They want to see the ball in play. They want to see action. and at corners you have to expect contact. If you're going to give decisions like that, you have to give all the holding calls in the world and that's not the way that people, I'm sure, want the game to go down. But certainly if that's the bar that's been set, surely penalty... Listen, I've just done an interview and said I don't want to sound bitter, I don't want to come out and sound just because we're on the receiving end of it.

8:02Clinton Morrison:But last week we had one with Thomas Suchek getting held at Brentford away that wasn't given as a penalty, which is fine. But then I don't think you can go and give a decision like that today.

8:11Rick Edwards:I mean, I actually, when I thought that goal had gone in, my reaction was to just burst out laughing uncontrollably. I mean, that's a slight...

8:19Clinton Morrison:It was the goal that everyone interested in a bit of football banter wanted to see. It was remarkable.

8:25Rick Edwards:I mean, and it has taken that joy. And there'll be people there saying, well, VAR has ruined it. And everything you say, Rick, is right. Is it clear and obvious? Do we need that? Do we need the technology to rule that goal out? Do we need the technology to deny us what would have been one of the biggest storylines of the season in terms of Arsenal thinking they've basically got the title won and then throwing it away in the last minute. But the technology is there, and it was used correctly, in my opinion. And once you see the replays, and you see it's a foul, you've got to rule out the goal. So that's where I'm at.

8:56Rick Edwards:I'm not saying that VAR is a great thing. I'm not a wholehearted advocate of it, but it is there, the technology is there, and it's a foul. And that's really, really harsh on West Ham and all their supporters. Really, really tough. And it's a huge escape for Arsenal, who actually had an earlier escape as well, which I'm sure we're going to talk about in terms of David Raya.

9:18Clinton Morrison:Yeah, I think that David Raya save might be the moment that I sort of think back on if they go on and win the title because it is a phenomenally good save, Clinton. I mean, you could probably say where you have to score from there, but when you watch it back, it is something else.

9:39Luke Edwards:That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of moments this season where David Reyes made them big saves. But for the life of me, I don't know how Fernandes has not scored. And you know what? I'll credit David Reyes because it's not the first he's done and it's a fantastic save in a big moment, in a big game. But I don't know why Fernandes takes the second touch and tries to beat him on his near post. The whole goal is gaping on that far side. So it's not someone who's natural in that position. And at that moment, if they go 1-0 up, I believe West Ham go on and probably win that game. So it's defining moments.

10:08Luke Edwards:And that is why Arsenal probably deserve to win the Premier League because they've got the best goalkeeper for me in the Premier League at the moment. He makes big saves at crucial points, but it's an unbelievable save from David Ryan. What would you do, Clinton?

10:20Clinton Morrison:Just wishing there, Clinton Morrison playing for them. I was going to say, what would you do, Clinton?

10:25Rick Edwards:What's he waiting to do? Is he waiting for Rea to commit himself? I think so.

10:30Luke Edwards:So he thinks nine times out of ten, when you're in that position, you're always going to try and bend it to the far corner. So what he's thinking is he's waiting for Rea to go early and he tried to give him the eyes and beat him on his near post. But what David Rea did, he just stood up big and made himself massive. I think it's the touch. Fernandes takes the touch. And once he takes the touch, David Rea is out to him quickly. So the only thing he can do is trying to go there. If he doesn't take the touch, as soon as Pablo plays it into him, if he whips that into that far corner, David Rea don't save it.

10:58Rick Edwards:So before he sets himself. So before the goalkeeper Yeah, before he sets himself. Yeah, before.

11:02Luke Edwards:But to me, listen, it's all ifs and buts. Huge credit to David Rea. What a save. And, you know, if that is the decisive moment, then thoroughly deserve it because he's been outstanding.

11:12Clinton Morrison:Arsenal were huffing and puffing. Particularly as soon as, like, first 20 minutes, they were knocking on the door. Like, you thought, oh, okay, they're going to win this quite comfortably. Ben White then went off. Arteta sort of shifted around his line-up. Declan Rice playing it right back. It didn't work. West Ham sort of got back into it. And then from then on, Arsenal never looked fluent or fluid or like they were absolutely going to go on and win that game. And the pressure is only going to... I know this is the game everyone's like, this could be the stumbling block, but they've still got to go and probably beat Burnley and beat Crystal Palace.

11:56Clinton Morrison:And they are going to need to find something a bit more potentially than that, Luke.

12:00Rick Edwards:Yeah, the anxiety returned, didn't it? Because they didn't get the early goal. to settle them down. And you have to also remember that West Ham are fighting for their lives. And that is among the best atmosphere that I've heard at the, I still call it the Olympic Stadium. And it was a bear pit for them and a really, really tough. And they needed that. They had the early chance. And it's a brilliant save from the goalkeeper that sort of keeps the scores level. But the longer the game went on, you could see those nerves and that tightness return to Arsenal. And you're right, nothing was fluid. Everything was hard work.

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12:32Rick Edwards:And I think with 15 minutes to go, I thought this is going to be a draw and we're going to get the last day, end of season title showdown. We're going to have another Aguero moment potentially because I just couldn't see Arsenal scoring, but I also couldn't see them conceding either. They survived a bit of a rough spell and then they just had that little moment and Odegaard coming on.

12:53Clinton Morrison:Yeah.

12:53Rick Edwards:And we can't downplay how good Odegaard is in the build-up to Trossard's goal. Because amidst the madness and the chaos and the tension, he did that thing that great players do, and we talk about it, is he slowed everything down. He had composure. He got the ball in the box. He waited. He didn't rush anything. And then he picks out Trossard. And it is like time stands still for those players. And I don't think any other player on the pitch at that moment could have done that because it was all so hectic and all so manic. It was just that ability to live in the moment, just compose himself, look at his options and then pick out the pass that creates the goal.

13:27Rick Edwards:And Trossard, you know, it takes a slight deflection but I think it's probably going in anyway. And then you sort of think, right, they've done it. Arsenal have done it.

13:35Clinton Morrison:Well, here's Leandro Trossard on his goal.

13:36Rick Edwards:It's an amazing run from Martin.

13:38Luke Edwards:He does so well to get the ball to me and at that moment I just, yeah, put all my power and precision in that ball to get it in the back of the net and I was such a relief to score that goal.

13:49Clinton Morrison:First goal in 25 games for Trossard. decent to hope to get it

13:52Luke Edwards:that's what I'm saying everyone will remember that won't they Rick that goal that Trossard scores he could have had a stinker all season but that goal there against West Ham listen I still think even though it's 90 % I think Arsenal will go because I don't think Burnley even though I know Burnley they drew with Villa I think because the games at Emirates I'm not sure I think Burnley will be on the beach but it's the Palace one and what Arsenal are quite lucky is that Palace play that final three days later and that is so you never but then you know what it's like the final day they'll still be twisting turns.

14:22Luke Edwards:If Man City still win all their games, you never know. It could be panic stations on the last game.

14:26Clinton Morrison:Also, just imagine that that Palace-Arsenal game is nil-nil after 70 minutes. Exactly. That's what we want. Man City are winning. Man City are winning. Exactly. Man City are beating. By a big margin. I'm probably hearing what's happening in the City game.

14:41Rick Edwards:Yeah. City's goal difference has suddenly gone to plus like five better than Arsenal. Yeah. I mean, we could still have it, couldn't we? I mean, we all sort of want it, really. Could still do. Don't we? don't we

14:51Clinton Morrison:I think I mean yes yes but then I also I want it but I think I still want Arsenal to win yeah

14:59Rick Edwards:well of course I want Arsenal to win of course I want Arsenal to win because as you know since August I've said Arsenal are going to win the title I've had one wobble one wobble you remember when they lost to Man City and I was did you say

15:10Clinton Morrison:Arsenal were going to win the title not Liverpool at the very start of the season

15:12Rick Edwards:I would like to say yes I'm not actually I'm not sure about that I think I did I think I did I wouldn't tip Liverpool I don't think I would tip Liverpool to win the title.

15:22Clinton Morrison:You have to remember that we were all saying Liverpool were going to walk in.

15:26Luke Edwards:No, I didn't know what. I went Liverpool City Arsenal. So I got it totally wrong.

15:31Rick Edwards:Yeah, well, they've been slotted, haven't they, Liverpool?

15:34Clinton Morrison:Yeah, well, we'll come on to that. Don't you worry. I also thought, do you know what? As well as Odegaard, I thought Havertz when he came on. He's another one of those players who just has like guile. Yeah, he does. He just makes stuff happen and looks, you know, he's positive. gifted footballer. I think they just needed those kind of players and it worked out for them. So Trossard stepped up for Arsenal in a really tight, tight, tight game. Jeremy Dokku is stepping up for Manchester City now. He scored a couple of absolute crackers against Everton. Granted, they dropped the points, but still.

16:10Clinton Morrison:And then got another to beat Brentford. And he's just one of those players who you think, why are you not more productive? And suddenly, and I have no idea why. It just looks like it's clicking, Clinton.

16:22Luke Edwards:Brentford made it difficult. And you were thinking, who's going to produce a bit of magic? And he produces a bit of magic with an unbelievable finish. Yeah, he's been brilliant. He's breathtaking. When he's like that, he's a world player and he's one of the best around. He's so good. He causes fullbacks, all kinds of problems because he can go inside, he can go outside. But yeah, the finish against Brentford was outstanding. And he's been outstanding. And if City want to win the league, he needs to continue to keep those kind of levels. and even the FA Cup final next weekend.

16:50Clinton Morrison:It's obviously nice hearing what Clinton thinks about Jeremy Doku, but let's hear what Erling Haaland and Pep think about him. Look at his last three goals. It's incredible. When players score these goals, you know that something is right. I'm super happy for him because he's been working hard to try to improve his, I don't know how you say it, shooting and the passes and all these kind of things. You can see this as well since he came to the club, how much he developed. on these things and hard work and smart work pays off.

17:21Luke Edwards:You want to become a better player? You have to win games for yourself. Everybody knows it. It's not necessary to tell you. Everybody knows that he made an incredible step in that sense and say, I'm Jeremy Docky, I'm going to win games. The big players, the greatest players always have that mentality.

17:38Clinton Morrison:Nice way to introduce yourself. I'm Jeremy Docky, I'm going to win games. Did you also see the end to Pep's press conference. It's very good. Have we got the audio for that? Thank you, Rob. Come on, you're hired. Yes, man.

17:55Rick Edwards:Quick, the audio has found out what it means to be a West Ham fan, hasn't he? Clearly. They were nearly there. Seven minutes they were, plus added on time. Seven minutes. He's new to it. He's new to it, Pep, on being a Hammers fan, but found out exactly what it's like. You think you've scored a 96-minute equaliser and it gets chalked off by VAR. Welcome to the club.

18:20Clinton Morrison:Let's talk a little bit about, I don't want to spend too long on this, to be honest. I do. A bit about Liverpool. Chelsea, I think, had lost, was it six Premier League games in a row? So the fixture you want there is to play Liverpool, who got booed at Anfield at half-time, then booed again when Slott took Rio and Gamora off, and then booed again at full time. And, you know, it just feels like the crowd, who famously, back managers, they've had enough. They're just not seeing anything to encourage them. You know what, Luke?

19:00Luke Edwards:I would love to speak to a Liverpool fan and see what they think about him. Me too, Clinton.

19:07Rick Edwards:If only we knew anyone. Do we know anyone, Clinton?

19:11Luke Edwards:I know quite a few people but I think I know one in particular but I'll answer for him I'll answer for him because I covered the game let me tell you Liverpool started off brilliant they scored a grab of virtual and then what happens they sit back and let Chelsea come back into the game make mistakes and I've watched them so much they are so passive they don't go and press the ball like under they did with Jurgen Klopp and they just let teams get back in and then he goes and takes on the one player who's taking on and giving them a spark in Ingemoa because he wants to keep on the likes of Gapo and that.

19:44Luke Edwards:And the crowd, I've never heard a crowd get onto the players and the managers as much as I've seen at Liverpool because every time I've played at Liverpool, they're the best fans, Liverpool. They always stick with their team, stick with the management. So there's going to be big question marks on the slot. And you know what? I was looking at it today. If Villa probably had won, they could have gone above Liverpool. Liverpool would have dropped into fifth place. So, yes, but I think Villa will win the Europa League. So I think whatever happens, Liverpool will be playing Champions League football.

20:12Luke Edwards:But I don't know, man. It's just not good enough from Liverpool. It's so frustrating with the players that they've got. They are so open. Chelsea should have won it yesterday.

20:20Clinton Morrison:Yeah, and without... I mean, Chelsea sort of got invited back into it, really. Chelsea, I didn't think, played particularly well. But they certainly deserve to get something out of the game. And I know that Slott will sort of say, well, you know, we hit the bar, hit the posts. But it didn't... I don't know. There's just no... I just think back to that Pep Linder's quote when he was Klopp's assistant of saying, our identity is intensity. And you completely got it. And the crowd completely got it and loved it. And now it is anything but. Passive is the word you use, Clinton. It's absolutely right.

20:54Clinton Morrison:It's just sort of... It's slow, pedestrian, reactive at best. I don't know if you suffered your way through it, Luke.

21:03Rick Edwards:How did Isak get along? That's how I always want to... But he came on for the last 20 minutes,

21:11Clinton Morrison:lost the ball at one point. Fernandes sort of broke. They had quite a promising attack. Fernandes with the ball, Isak chasing back. Fernandes was pulling away from him. And I was thinking, ah.

21:24Rick Edwards:Absolute snip at 128 million. That's just nice.

21:27Clinton Morrison:Yeah, but he looks like he can't run anymore.

21:30Rick Edwards:No, that is a problem, I think. I think it could be. Where am I on Liverpool? Well, I have a lot of Liverpool supporting friends and they have turned. They've gone. They're not sort of mad social media types, but they are the teams regressed, that players have regressed. They're not sure that the players look like they want to play for the manager, particularly anymore. There's no passion. There's no determination. There's not really any identity there. That's pretty harsh for any manager, isn't it? I think. But I do, I come in it as a neutral, albeit with a slight vested interest in seeing Alexander Isak struggle.

22:08Rick Edwards:I just think this season has been a mess. And I think it all, we all want to pin it on the managers. Of course, that's the price on the ticket. And it's very hard to win back a fan base when they're turning inside a stadium. But I do just go back to the fact that I think they made a complete balls up of their recruitment in the summer. They spent a hell of a lot of money. That has created a lot of pressure on him. Because the expectation, like you said, Rick, earlier on this podcast, in August, we thought Liverpool were going to walk to the side of. And everybody just assumed they had the best team last year and they went and broke the British transfer record twice in one summer.

22:39Rick Edwards:Well, Wurtz doesn't look like a British record transfer fee player. I think he's been very, very patchy. Isak, in his defence, has had a horrendous time of injuries, obviously missed pre-season as well. I don't think the balance of the squad is right. I think they signed star names last summer without really having any clear idea how they were going to gel them into a team. and Slott has had to try and do that as the season has unfolded. I'm not saying it's good enough and obviously it isn't good enough. And the football, I think, is pretty bleak and I think it is pretty depressing. But I think the hierarchy have said he's going to get next season.

23:15Rick Edwards:They're going to get Champions League, which I think is the minimum requirement. But they've got to have a good window. They've got to have a good window and they've got to put those mistakes right and get that squad balanced up.

23:24Luke Edwards:You will know better than me, Luke, right? Because I'm going to ask you something after because you will know better. But what annoys me about Arna Slott and it might annoy me as well. Every time, so say they're playing against a team that's like, all he goes is, oh, we can't handle teams that do long throws, long balls. Why? That is what you're paid. It always makes excuses. That is why he's paid big money to manage one of the biggest teams there is in the world in Liverpool. Liverpool fans don't want to hear what you can't do and what you can't handle. Solve the solution because that is why you're paid the big money.

23:54Luke Edwards:And what, you know, what I was going to say.

23:56Clinton Morrison:just to back you up on that, the funniest rebuttal to that I saw was the kind of team that Arna Slott sort of purports to want to play against, to play open, free-flowing, attacking football, are PSG. And we got humped 4-0 on aggregate. So, mate, who do you want to play? Exactly. What team will you finally be able to beat?

24:19Rick Edwards:What he would like is a team that defends like Liverpool. Is that easy? Maybe that's the problem.

24:28Clinton Morrison:In training, we're scoring loads of goals. looking fantastic

24:31Rick Edwards:we're exposing the defence regularly with our and ability to pass through the lines in midfield so yeah no it is a huge problem and I think the problem for slot now is we've all been in and around football long enough that once the crowd turns at any football club let alone Liverpool any football club once the crowd turns en masse it is very very hard to win the back I think he probably is going to get the summer I think he's going to get a chance to put it right next season sounds like it yeah

25:00Luke Edwards:I think they'll challenge next season. I think they'll sign some good players. They're going to get rid of a lot of players. We know Salah and Robertson are going. They might lose players like Curtis Jones, who I thought was good. And I think it's a good player. Knows the club inside out, but Slott doesn't play him enough. But I think Liverpool will be good next season. I think you'll see... If we don't see the best of Isak, but I think we will see the best of him because he'll have a pre-season and hopefully stay injury-free. Yeah.

25:22Rick Edwards:And if he doesn't, if they don't start the season well, Arna Slott could be the first managerial casualty of next season. 100%. Absolutely. He could be gone by end of September.

25:31Luke Edwards:Xabi Alonso will be by the phone waiting.

25:33Clinton Morrison:I think he might not be, because I think he'll probably be working somewhere else by then.

25:37Luke Edwards:Yeah, I thought that, I thought that. But fingers crossed he's there waiting.

25:40Clinton Morrison:I mean, to be fair, Chelsea have had an absolutely miserable season as well, because quite easy to forget that under Maresca, early on in the season, there was a feeling that actually Chelsea might challenge for the title. And now they might finish without even European football.

25:56Luke Edwards:Yeah, you're right. I agree. Chelsea need a manager, and they need a manager in as soon as possible. And the hierarchy at the club...

26:02Clinton Morrison:No, they need a coach, Clinton. They don't want anyone coming in with grand ideas to be a manager.

26:07Luke Edwards:They do need a manager. No, I know they need a manager.

26:10Clinton Morrison:They're not going to manage.

26:12Luke Edwards:So it has to be a coach, as you rightly pointed out there. It has to be a coach because the hierarchy through all the signings, you need a coach. And you know that person is probably someone like an areola, but I don't know if they're going to go through. There's a lot of names. There's Marco Silva that's in the mix and stuff like that. but I think Chelsea's recruitment's been nowhere near good enough. Like some of these players, like they're talking about, oh, they want to go to other clubs like Real Madrid. And you've got to be good enough for Chelsea before you can go to clubs like Real Madrid.

26:37Luke Edwards:And they've not been good enough this season. That's my honest opinion at the moment. So as much as we say about, oh, Liverpool have not had a good season, at least they'll be playing Champions League football. Chelsea won't be next season.

26:48Clinton Morrison:OK, we'll talk more about the race for Europe shortly. But first, halftime teaser. Bruno Fernandes named the Football Writers Association and Men's Footballer of the Year on Friday. So I've got actually a multi-parter to test your knowledge on that award's history. Three different Portuguese players have now won it. Who are the other two? Who was the last Manchester United? Wait. Who was the last Manchester United player to win the award? And who are the only two players to win it three times? So the answer's next, plus more analysis.

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28:39Clinton Morrison:On the Football Daily Podcast, Premier League Review with Rick Edwards. Hello, welcome back to the Premier League Review with me, Rick Edwards, Clinton Morrison and Luke Edwards. Before the break, I asked you, three different Portuguese players have won the Football Writers Association Men's Football of the Year Award. Bruno Fernandes is the last one. Who are the other two? I think these are, well, one of them is an absolute gimme. And one of them is trickier but gettable, I'd say. So, Clinton, take the easy one. Ronaldo. Of course. And Luke, take the hard one.

29:16Rick Edwards:I knew you'd do that to me.

29:18Clinton Morrison:Yeah. you had a brain box

29:19Rick Edwards:I'm not I've just heard that you like checking the hard part

29:23Luke Edwards:I'm trying to be nice

29:26Rick Edwards:my mind's gone blank

29:27Luke Edwards:you know who I would have said but because Rick said something I would have said Bernardo Silva but no that's a okay so right team oh Man City

29:34Clinton Morrison:which it is Ruben Diaz yes yes Clinton yes he had that good season

29:41Luke Edwards:as a centre half didn't he yeah

29:43Clinton Morrison:okay next up who was the last Manchester United player to win the award oh man you know that is a good um De Gea no great shout well is someone after is it after him before him before but actually I mean it will have overlapped oh it's got to be a good shout is it a great shout no it's not wow Rooney Rooney there we go Rooney and uh it's got to be the boy wonder look at Clinton yeah he's got to think of a top player three and I think these I think both of these are gettable so imagine that Clinton will get them. Only two players to win it three times.

30:21Luke Edwards:Two players to win it three times?

30:23Clinton Morrison:Yeah.

30:24Luke Edwards:Thierry Henry. Key.

30:25Clinton Morrison:Thierry Henry. Bang. Roy Key? No, you're so bad at these. I love it, Luke. Ryan Giggs? No. Is it that? Which era is it? I'll give him a clue. Did you vote for these as well, Luke? Probably. Yeah, he would have voted for these players. It's insane. I don't really want to give any clues because I think this is just sort of... Is it Thierry Omri's era, though, or is it more... No, it's not Omri's era. Is it after? Is it after? It's after, yeah.

30:53Luke Edwards:De Bruyne. Someone like a Lampard or a John Terry. No. Gerrard. No. Great shout. Thanks.

31:01Rick Edwards:Clinton just keeps saying great shout to me when I keep getting the answer wrong. It's great. Position. Position, Rick. Position. I'll get it. I can see Rick's face. He's getting more and more angry and questioning why on earth he does this podcast.

31:12Clinton Morrison:The argument... Well, I've done four. The argument on this is, this guy's stats are basically as good as Henry's, but people say, ah, but on the eye test, Henry was just better, which I would, unfortunately, I would agree with.

31:28Luke Edwards:And it's after Henry, because if not, I was thinking someone like a Shearer. It's not that. The stats don't blend. It's not Ronaldo. No, it's a striker.

31:38Clinton Morrison:Though he won it twice.

31:39Luke Edwards:No, it's not a striker, is it? It is a striker, right?

31:41Clinton Morrison:Well, that's sort of the argument. So people think that Henri played off the left, but he didn't. This guy absolutely played off the wing. Salah. Thank you. My God.

31:51Luke Edwards:Stupid Clinton. Salah, how have I not picked Salah? His goals record, stupid.

31:57Clinton Morrison:Yes, yeah. But in fairness, you just got to load right, Clinton. Luke is sitting there silently having got nothing. Nothing. He voted for him. Luke voted for all of those players as well. Well, miserable, absolutely miserable stuff as always. just a quick one on Manchester United then qualified for the Champions League great Carrick now you know firmly in the frame if he wasn't before for getting the job permanently but against Sunderland pretty pretty poor I mean actually really poor I mean maybe maybe you'd say not really anything to play for now but still Luke

32:37Rick Edwards:yeah I was there I was at the game on Saturday and I thought they were they were it was a reminder of how bad they can be and how limp they can be.

32:46Clinton Morrison:Do you excuse them because that sort of doesn't make any difference now?

32:49Rick Edwards:Well, Michael Carrick said that that suggestion offended him in the post-match press conference. It personally offended him. No, it offended him that there would be any suggestion that they had nothing to play for because they're playing for this magnificent football club. Blah, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda. But I think they had switched. I think they had switched off mentally. Sunderland should have won. Sunderland were the better team. they were sharper hungrier stronger and I think what Michael Carrick might have been doing though is I think he wanted to have a look at a few of the fringe players so he had a little look at Mason Mount neat tidy few flashes story of his Old Trafford career really but but got out muscled I think he wanted to look at Xerxes up front starting I think we've probably seen the end of of Xerxes now in terms of being a viable option to lead the line for Manchester United I thought he was really poor but I think it is worrying it's only a slight worry because they've had an excellent run and they're back in the Champions League and I've given Michael Carrick a wonderful chance of getting the job but it's a slight worry that the big accusation that's been thrown at Manchester United this group of players through the years through various managers is is their mentality um and I thought they looked flaky against Sunderland and and should have lost and I think you're looking at that group again you're thinking okay well you know if if they've still got that mentality in that dressing room and Michael Carrick gets the job full time are they are they going to let him down as well are they going to get into a comfort zone are they going to you know not not play with the same intensity and purpose are they going to slip into bad habits and I think that was definitely an example of why Manchester United have struggled for so long is that they are capable still of serving up performances like that and a team and and also

34:27Clinton Morrison:So I think a reminder of if Bruno Fernandes isn't firing or doesn't have a season like he's had this season, how much do United fall? And I suspect the answer is quite a lot.

34:40Luke Edwards:Yeah, I agree. Definitely. So I totally agree. I've seen bits and pieces of the game and Sunderland should have won. Luke said they were the better team and on another day, they come away winning it. And Michael Carrick said after, it was a good point. But when you're Man United, boss, you can't be going to Sunderland and saying it's a good point. but I do think the job he's done at the moment the only thing I worry about is how have Man United not given the job at the moment, what are they waiting for to give him this job why are they going to wait to the summer are they still interviewing other candidates because the job he's done to get them to the Champions League is fantastic and I did think yesterday they missed Casemiro big time and he's leaving at the end of the season in midfield because as you said Mason Mounts I don't think is naturally a centre midfielder alongside Kobe Maynou but they're the questions I'd love to speak to the hierarchy and say, why have you not given Michael Carrick a job yet?

35:28Luke Edwards:Oh, go on, Luke. I think I can answer it.

35:30Clinton Morrison:You can't answer much on this podcast.

35:31Luke Edwards:Go on then, Luke.

35:32Rick Edwards:I think a lot of it's to do with optics. I think they want to be seen to be going through a thorough process, doing their proper due diligence. And I think there's the name of one manager out there, Areola, who I think he's got backers at Old Trafford. I think there are people there who think, hmm, he might be better for us. He might just be the new, great, young manager of his generation coming through the job he's done at Bournemouth with the adversities he's had to face there in terms of losing players and I think there will be people at Old Trafford who are just thinking that they're sort of trapped in this if we give it to Carrick are we going to be accused of doing the Solskjaer route like Carrick can't have done any more so I think I think that there is but they've been down every major split United like whatever they do people

36:17Clinton Morrison:will say we've tried that before and I think that's the problem Rick but I think that's the

36:20Rick Edwards:problem whatever they do that that you know if they don't appoint Carrick and the new manager starts badly people will say well why on earth did you get rid of michael carrick he was doing great and if they do appoint michael carrick and he starts really really you know disappointingly at any point next season and areola's gone and starts tearing up trees somebody else they'll be going well you have that guy he could have come but you you stuck with michael carrick so it is a very difficult decision i think most of it is to do with optics i i said last week i think it'd be more of a surprise if michael carrick doesn't get the job now but there is obviously a semblance of doubt because as you say clinton if there wasn't any doubt yeah he would have the job now.

36:54Rick Edwards:So there must be something and I think Eriola's availability this summer has caused them to pause.

36:59Clinton Morrison:Yeah, I think that's probably true. Now on the race for Europe who are you backing? So Brighton and Bournemouth both won. Aston Villa drew Liverpool drew Villa it's not a good run in the league at all. I think they've got eight points from the last nine league games which have put them in the relegation zone form wise. They will obviously remember missing out on the Champions League on the last day last season. Can that happen again?

37:31Luke Edwards:You know the top five, how it is now, Rick? I think the top five will stay how it is. I think Villa need one more win. And I think they've got the Europa League final and then they play Man City the last game of the season. They win that Europa League final. I don't think they'll get the result against Man City because I just thought it was a crazy time to play it three days before the end of the season, which is bonkers for me. So I think their next game, they need to get the win. And then I think it'll be, I think Liverpool will finish fourth and I think Villa will finish fifth and Villa will win the Europa League.

38:04Luke Edwards:And then I think six will be a Champions League spot. So there's lots of teams in it and Bournemouth are the favourites at the moment.

38:10Clinton Morrison:Yeah, so Bournemouth on 55, Brighton on 53, Brentford on 51,

38:20Clinton Morrison:Chelsea and Everton on 49. I think they're out of it in terms of Champions League. Who would you back then? Do you agree with Clinton's assessment, Luke?

38:30Rick Edwards:Yeah, I think Villa will do it. I think they'll just have enough. Bournemouth's obviously got to play Manchester City as well, haven't they? Yes. So, feasibly, you would imagine, with Man City and the situation they're in, you would have thought Man City would win that, and so Bournemouth will drop points. So, Bournemouth have to be perfect, and they've got that really difficult game. I think Villa will just about do it, and then I think they'll go on and win the Europa League as well. So Bournemouth have just got to hang on to sixth, which they can still lose out to Brighton and Brighton are obviously a really, really good team as well.

39:01Rick Edwards:So the great story of this season, though, is that actually we could have Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford in Europe next season.

39:08Luke Edwards:What's a story if it's Bournemouth or Brighton playing Champions League football? And I do believe it will be between them two. Brentford as well. Brentford got a chance of getting into Europe. It's crazy.

39:17Clinton Morrison:Would you be gutted? Well, not gutted, but it'd be such a strange situation if Bournemouth get into the Champions League and then the manager leaves and you think, oh man. Well, he is leaving.

39:27Rick Edwards:I mean, he is leaving. No, no, no, I know.

39:29Clinton Morrison:I know, I just think...

39:30Rick Edwards:It is very sad. But it's the story of Bournemouth's existence.

39:33Clinton Morrison:And regret it.

39:35Rick Edwards:Yeah, I think he could, well, will he regret it? Depends what job... He'll probably regret it if he goes to Chelsea because within nine months he'll be thinking, oh God, why have I gone here?

39:44Luke Edwards:But Luke, ain't there talk of him maybe going to Palace? You will know better than anyone. I don't see Palace, Clinton.

39:53Rick Edwards:No, Luke, that is a strong rumour, you know. It's a strong rumour. I'm not saying Palace would love him. Palace would absolutely love him. Yeah, of course. What a move that would be for Palace. We've just gone and got one of the best young managers. But if you're at Areola, I'd be thinking, nah, you're all right. No offence, but I'd just be going, nah, you're okay.

40:11Clinton Morrison:I think Brighton fans will be feeling extremely optimistic, almost irrespective of which European competition they end up in. And they will end up in one because they missed out last season. Big, big disappointment. They're in a really great run at the moment. They had a horrible patch in the middle of the season, didn't they?

40:30Rick Edwards:Yeah, the manager was in trouble.

40:31Clinton Morrison:Yeah, but he's now signed a new deal to 2029. And it just feels like everything's going in the right direction for them. And they'll kick on to next season very enthusiastically, I would think.

40:43Rick Edwards:They are better run football clubs. than the likes of Chelsea, Tottenham. I mean, that's the most damning thing you can say about that. You know, the old big six, those two clubs. And there were better run clubs last season than Tottenham and Manchester United. So they are doing it right. They are the template for every small to medium-sized football club in this country to follow. And I hope they do it. And I think it'll be absolutely brilliant. And I think that we talk about the unpredictability of the Premier League, and we are moving away a little bit from that. I mean, we've talked about it being a bad look if Man City won the Premier League this season for how much that dominance would resemble PSG, Celtic, Bayern Munich.

41:19Rick Edwards:But that is why the Premier League is so good is that those clubs, Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford, for one of them to be in Europe would be a fantastic story, but for all three of them to be in it. And they've all done it through sensible recruitment. They've all had to trade players and they've got the basics behind the scenes right. And yeah, they're model football clubs and that is something for the rest of English football to aspire to. it's what the likes of Sunderland etc Leeds they'll all aspire to follow in their footsteps in the years to come

41:47Clinton Morrison:I also think we should just finish up with a word of praise and congratulations for Nottingham Forest who are now safe and will be a Premier League team next season and Vitor Pereira deserves all the applause he's going to get for Lacklinton

42:03Luke Edwards:No I agree I was at the game today I did the commentary for the five live and at once it wasn't the best it looked like both teams were on the beach didn't need to be the best Newcastle, yeah, it was exactly that. And you know what? Credit Forrest, because what they've got is five or six first-team players out missing, but they've got one individual who's been outstanding for them this season. Newcastle have got it. They lost his Elliot Anderson. And he was the difference maker in the end, scoring a spectacular goal. And it was a brilliant goal. It was a brilliant one-two. And the finish is outstanding, to be fair, because I thought Newcastle were going to hold on because they didn't play too bad as well.

42:38Luke Edwards:But they don't keep clean sheets at the moment, Newcastle. that's the problem but as you say Pereira went in there he had a job to do and after what happened on Thursday night you were thinking how were they going to react to the injuries they got they got a great point and credit to Forest for them surviving in the Premier League because at one stage it looked like they were doomed and they've had like four managers this year and credit to Pereira he's got them over the line brilliant

42:59Clinton Morrison:anything to say about Newcastle Luke?

43:01Rick Edwards:not really

43:02Clinton Morrison:leave it there

43:03Rick Edwards:I think we'd quite like the season to end in the Norwich

43:07Clinton Morrison:alright thanks very much Clinton thank you Luke that's all we've got time for on the Premier League Review. Much more analysis and debate coming up on the Monday Night Club.

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From the publisher

Former Premier League striker Clinton Morrison and the Telegraph’s Northern football writer Luke Edwards join Rick Edwards to analyse and debate the key talking points from the weekend.

How good has Jeremy Doku been in the final stages of the season? Can Arne Slot survive the summer at Liverpool after boos at Anfield?

Can one of Bournemouth and Brighton sneak into the Champions League spots after Aston Villa’s woeful league form continued?

Timecodes: 01:00 Was that the biggest VAR call ever? 01:30 Was it really a foul on David Raya? 05:20 Reaction from West Ham captain Jarrod Bowen 07:30 How decisive was David Raya’s save vs Fernandes? 09:30 What went wrong with Arsenal’s performance and could it happen against Burnley or Crystal Palace? 11:15 How good was Odegaard off the bench amidst the tension? 11:45 Reaction from Leandro Trossard on his goal 14:20 Jeremy Doku steps up for Manchester City 15:13 Hear from Erling Halaand and Pep Guardiola on Doku’s impact 16:00 Pep finds out what it means to be a West Ham fan! 16:30 Liverpool fans boo Arne Slot’s decisions — what is going on? 26:20 Half-time teaser — answers 29:45 Concerns for Carrick’s United? 34:30 The race for European football — who are you backing? 39:15 Credit to Forest for staying up

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