In short
The episode of The Commentator’s View (Football Daily) is a special live recording from Wembley after the England squad announcement. It focuses mainly on how a BBC football producer works, using guest Gary Flintoff’s behind-the-scenes experiences, plus a discussion of England’s unusual 35-man World Cup squad and Thomas Tuchel’s camp-splitting plan.
Guests
Alistair Bruce Ball, John Murray, Ian Dennis (regular commentators), and special guest Gary Flintoff, BBC Radio England football producer (started in radio in 1996; joined BBC in 2001; previously commentated for BBC Radio Lancashire and BBC Radio Merseyside, including Champions League and FA Cup finals).
Key claims
production success is credited to the team when it goes right, but the producer is blamed when it goes wrong; producers coordinate equipment, accreditation access, and live interview scheduling across BBC outlets; England’s squad is split into two camps (19-player group first, then 11 rested European-heavy players join later).
Notable examples
Gary negotiating a commentary position in Sofia, Bulgaria; getting Dave Whelan a one-question Sports Report interview; Stan Turnant’s surreal resignation rumor interview; and Tuchel’s inclusion of players like Jason Steele and discussion of Max Dowman.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMeet the Commentators
1:12 to 4:08
Discussion about the roles and experiences of the hosts and Gary Flintoff.
“I mean, we're going to go on to explain exactly what it is that a football producer does.”
The Role of a Football Producer
4:08 to 7:22
Gary explains the responsibilities and challenges faced as a football producer.
“I mean, we know very well what you do, but explain to the wider audience, What is it that a football producer does?”
Behind the Scenes at Football Matches
7:22 to 10:12
Gary shares experiences and anecdotes from football commentary and production.
“but I think we haven't lost anybody yet.”
Networking in Football
10:12 to 14:01
Discussion on the importance of relationships in football production.
“from football to throwbacks and everything in between.”
The Thrill of Live Interviews
14:01 to 16:41
Learn about the excitement and challenges of conducting live interviews in sports broadcasting.
“many people would have heard you doing the interviews live into Sports Report, where you've only got that short period of time.”
Memorable Interviews with Managers
16:42 to 19:37
Discover anecdotes from interviews with famous football managers and their unique styles.
“I remember you getting that treatment as well with Vitor Pereira.”
The Surreal Post-Match Interview
19:38 to 27:08
Hear the story of a challenging post-match interview with a frustrated manager.
“But I just sort of said to him, you know, just have a think about that one voice at a time.”
Upcoming Football Commentaries
29:06 to 30:24
Preview of upcoming football matches and commentators.
“where we five live commentators talk about the football, our travels and the language we use in football commentary.”
Analysis of the League Cup Final
30:24 to 32:52
Discussion on the anticipated League Cup final between Arsenal and Manchester City.
“Sports Extra on Sunday, 12 o 'clock, Brighton against Liverpool in the WSL.”
England's Unique World Cup Squad Announcement
32:52 to 36:15
Analysis of Thomas Tuchel's unusual squad selection for England friendlies.
“And how Pep Guardiola responds, obviously the two of them worked together for a period of time when Arteta was on the coaching staff at the Etihad.”
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Discussion on Player Omission and Selection
36:15 to 38:03
Debate on the omission of key players and the inclusion of newcomers.
“Yeah, and it's something completely different.”
Gary's Assistance and Production Insights
38:03 to 42:00
Light-hearted discussion about Gary's role and support during the show.
“I think all of them want to come, so they're also a little bit biased.”
Power Bank Rescue at the Match
42:00 to 43:05
Learn about a humorous incident involving a power bank at a match.
“You know, some of the, I mean, he's got a suitcase that, he looks like he's going for a fortnight in Toro Molinos.”
Timeline for England's World Cup Squad
43:05 to 43:34
Discover the timeline for England's World Cup preparations and friendlies.
“because of the personnel who are going to be involved.”
Listener Correspondence: Corey's Perspective
43:34 to 44:45
Hear Corey's experience with Muslim players and the Quran before games.
“We should move, shouldn't we, onto correspondence because we've still got the unintended pub names and we've still got the great glossary of football commentary.”
Scott's Family Tradition with Wolverhampton Wanderers
44:45 to 45:58
Listen to Scott's nostalgic email about family traditions at Wolves matches.
“And it was an answer to the old, old question, you know, what music do you listen to before the match?”
Unintended Pub Names in Commentary
45:58 to 47:19
Explore humorous unintended pub names inspired by football commentary.
“to Wolverhampton via the trolley bus for each home game.”
Listener Contributions: Pub Name Suggestions
47:19 to 51:00
Delve into listener suggestions for unintended pub names in football context.
“So the last throw of the dice, really, from Unai Emery.”
Clash of the Commentators Discussion
51:00 to 53:24
Join the discussion about the Clash of the Commentators and related controversies.
“Don't walk my dog anymore because unfortunately we lost our dog just last week.”
The Great Glossary of Football Commentary
53:24 to 55:38
Learn about new terms added to the glossary of football commentary.
“Now, for the great glossary of football commentary, as we add commentary terms and phrases to our collection, you can find our entire glossary in the episode description.”
Final Thoughts and Listener Appreciation
55:38 to 56:00
Wrap up with listener feedback and final thoughts from the hosts.
“They're going from the goalkeeper's dive to the goalkeeper's union.”
Discussion on Palm Trees and Commentary
56:00 to 56:41
Exploring humorous commentary on football and palm trees.
“Palm trees at football grounds have been a recent discussion topic, but what about Sting the Palms of the goalkeeper?”
The Notorious Drubbing and Commentator Stories
56:41 to 59:00
Sharing memorable football matches and personal commentary experiences.
“Yeah, you'd have one of them in rugby, wouldn't you?”
Glossary and Future Episodes
59:00 to 1:00:24
Summarizing the discussion glossary and teasing upcoming episodes.
“There's no need for you to email in now, is there?”
Transcript
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1:19Ian Dennis:Hello, it's the Football Daily. I'm John Murray and this is a special edition of the Commentator's View coming to you from Wembley after the England squad announcement and I am sitting here unusually we're all in the same room with Ian Dennis regular contributor to the commentators view hello Ian hello John and also special guest today Gary Flintoff BBC radio football producer BBC radio England football producer just two of the many many roles Gary that you've filled for the BBC over many years. Hello to you both. I mean, we're going to go on to explain exactly what it is that a football producer does.
2:01Ian Dennis:And I imagine that people listening will have their own views on that. And, you know, people will know your voice, Gary, from the various post-match interviews that you do, the occasional reporting that you do, whether it's Final Score on Five Live or Radio 4 or the World Service or wherever it happens to be. But in actual fact, you know, your BBC career, you in your own right have commentated on many, many matches, haven't you? I have, yes. I actually started in radio back in 1996. And I joined the BBC in 2001. I worked, first of all, for BBC Radio Lancashire. And then I moved to BBC Radio Merseyside, where I had seven great years commentating on both Liverpool and on Everton, including Champions League final, a couple of FA Cup finals, and they were good times.
3:00Rafa Benitez in charge of Liverpool and David Moyes, do you remember him? He was in charge of Everton back in the day. Whatever happened to him?
3:09John Murray:And anybody listening to Gary's voice now, would you agree with this, John, that he's got a stereotypical voice for a commentator? Would you say? Do you think? People have said that to you before, though, haven't they? That your voice lends itself to the job that you do. Yeah, you know, they have. And my face very much lends itself to the job. Well, we've all got a face for radio.
3:32Ian Dennis:And, Gary, we have had a message from Georgie in Cheshire who says, please give Gary Flintoff his moment in the spotlight. I'd love to hear about his role behind the scenes, both at Salford and at the ground. We've not heard about the day job of engineering, brackets, I think. In actual fact, Georgie, he is the producer. And she continues, and why they are the ones put in the firing line to interview managers at full time. Well, Georgie, now is your chance. I mean, we know very well what you do, but explain to the wider audience, What is it that a football producer does? It's a very good question because it sort of encompasses so many different things.
4:23And I mean, at times it sort of feels like you're working for the United Nations, trying to bring everybody together at the right time in the right place. But yeah, a lot of negotiation, a lot of talking, which I'm sure you'll pick up on at some point. I remember one game, which we were all at, which was in Bulgaria, in Sofia. And I think one of my first conversations with Christo, who was the press officer for the Bulgarian National Association, he was a lovely fellow, by the way, but the conversation literally went, Christo, we have a slight problem with our commentary position. And his response was, what is the problem?
5:02And I said, we can't see half of the pitch. so lots of discussions like that talking to all the summarizers or the the former professionals who obviously are a big part of what we do and the engineers so the conduit between our engineering team the people who plug everything in for us and i suppose they lay the foundation to allow the magic to happen yeah one of these days we must get one of the engineers on as well
5:28Ian Dennis:to give their view on things. But I always think that, you know, when we travel as a team, you know, whether it's in the UK or abroad, whether it's a tournament, whatever it happens to be, really, Gary, the producer is the team leader, aren't they? Well, they are. Nominally, I would say. I suppose it depends who you're working with. If you have a lot of people who are, shall we say, experienced, then I'd like to think it's more of a collective, in all honesty. But I suppose ultimately, as I know Rob Nothman, who is a great colleague of all of ours, has said on many an occasion, we call Rob the radio Yoda, the man that teaches us everything.
6:10And the phrase he always uses when it comes to talking about production, either in the studio or in the field, is when it all goes perfectly and the bosses are raving about the amazing coverage, it's all down to those who are behind the microphone or behind the camera for that matter. And when it all goes horribly wrong, it's all the producer's fault.
6:37Ian Dennis:Which actually... It's true. It's the nail on the head, doesn't it? Yeah. But listen, I mean, when I talk about being the team leader, really, and I suppose you're talking about when things don't go right, really. And, you know, whether something, whatever it happens to be, someone's got to call the shots, haven't they? And that, in the end, has to be the producer, I think. I suppose you do. You sort of have to make the sensible decisions, and you obviously deal with those who are above you as well, the big bosses who obviously aren't on site, and you have to answer some questions to them afterwards.
7:14And, I mean, ultimately, I suppose one of my primary roles when we are out and about is to make sure everyone gets back home safely, which has been a challenge on one or two occasions down the years, but I think we haven't lost anybody yet. and I'm certainly hopeful I'll reach the end of my career and we can still count them all out and count them all back in again.
7:33John Murray:But also for a sort of like a major final, I'm thinking when we were all together in Berlin, it was you who will decide when John will make his first appearance on the radio. You know, you'll then tell me, right, John's doing the top of the programme, I need you in the ground an hour later. All the various hits that we do for the various outlets throughout the BBC, whether it be the World Service, Radio 2, Radio 1, whatever, all those requests come through you and then you have to delegate once John's decided what he's going to do to me. Yeah, I mean, that's true. I mean, that is true.
8:11Ian Dennis:You nearly missed that, didn't you? I know, I nearly did. But it was a good line. But yes, I mean, the thing about the BBC is it is absolutely huge. There are so many moving parts to it And it's the idea is that instead of you both, if you're both on site, taking phone calls from every single outlet that broadcasts on the BBC, they're meant to come through through me. And obviously our own production team for Five Live will come through me and they'll have their thoughts. And I will say, well, John could do that, but probably having him up at six in the morning to then commentate at nine o 'clock at night local time isn't the best use of, you know, John as the commentator.
8:51so that's when you normally get the shout deno um but yeah i mean that's a big part of it because we get all sorts of requests and people want the dulcet tones of john murray or the the driving tones of ian dennis to be their voice of their trails their voice of their programs i mean i know you've both been asked to do all sorts of various scripts down the years and it's a very
9:17Ian Dennis:effective one running on BBC Radio at the moment involving me and Fern Cotton I think has gone down very well with everyone who's heard it, from what I hear. You were very much looking forward to doing that, I believe. So yeah, that's it. I've had more stick about that. Have you? Of course I have. What, than singing Nuno Espirito Santa? Yeah, I have. Guess who was the first one on, incidentally? Wouldn't be Hair Chapman, would it? Absolutely hit the target. I haven't seen or heard this trail. Have you not? I don't think I've... I saw the script, but I've not actually heard the finished article.
9:53Let's talk about your favourite 90s...
9:56Ian Dennis:Favourite 90 minutes? It's so hard to choose, especially as Five Live Sport has more live Premier League commentaries than anywhere else. No, I meant your favourite 90s song. Ah, sorry, Fern. Well, if it's the 90s, it's got to be Take That. All I do each night is break. Great choice. Let's see your dance moves. from football to throwbacks and everything in between. BBC Sounds, packed with personality. Anyway, I rudely interrupted you, Gary. No, it's just to say that you sort of bring all the strings together and then hopefully come up with a plan because, yeah, I mean, whether it is Radio 1, I mean, even, you know, 6 Music from time to time, we'll throw in a request.
10:36Radio 4, obviously, we do a lot for them. The World Service, BBC TV, it could be the News Channel, it could be the 6 o 'clock news. so yeah I'm the person the idea being I think that rather everyone goes to you and annoys you all day although I do know quite a lot of people will do that anyway is the men come through me and we try and filter some of the requests or combine them and just make it a little bit easier so rather than do one in the six hour one the seven hour one in the eight hour I go how about we all do them in half an hour between 7 30 and eight o 'clock and it normally works not always but it normally works.
11:13Ian Dennis:What we should say as well is there's a heck of a lot of administration in the role that you play. Unfortunately, you love a bit of administration, don't you? Well, you believe I love a bit of administration, or red tape as some people like to call it, but I have to give a nod to those back at base as well who do the initial applications, but what we often find is what we've requested in a football ground is not always what we find. And that's when the negotiations, shall I say, have to start in earnest. And some of those are well-received and some of them take a little bit of pushing back. But we'd normally get there in the end.
11:53Ian Dennis:Yeah. And Ian, as well, Gary is a master schmoozer, isn't he? And coming from one of the great schmoozers, Gary is almost even better at it than you are. Well, I wouldn't necessarily say that I was the schmoozer. Oh, I would. Would you? Oh, absolutely. I hold you up there on a pedestal when it comes to schmoozing.
12:11John Murray:Yeah. I remember one of my first experiences with Gary and we were working together at Anfield and the commentary position was opposite to where we are now. So we were at the top of the Sir Kenne-Douglis stand and you had to get that convoluted way up the ladders. We eventually came down and we were walking around behind the goal from the Anfield road end and we were going to go down the tunnel. And I said to him, I said, Gary, I said, I don't think we can get in this way. and he said leave it with me and we didn't have any sort of like accreditation at that point or not on show at least anyway and not that we needed it because we were just greeted with hello Gary and it turns out that his face was his accreditation and we walked down the tunnel and I've never walked down the tunnel at Anfield before so that was no that was quite I had to always walk the long way around to get into the to the top of the tunnel where we used to do the interviews so that was quite a thrill to walk down that famous tunnel and go underneath that this is Anfield sign.
13:09John Murray:Did you touch it? I think I might have done actually, yeah. Well, you had to, didn't you? Very much so. So, yeah. That was one of my first experiences of working with Gary.
13:19Ian Dennis:But there aren't many UEFA or FIFA what would we call them, match managers who look after the running of UEFA and FIFA matches that you don't know, Gary, are there? I think it's safe to say. One or two of them, I happen to know. I mean, we're very fortunate, though, aren't we? We've got so many of them actually work in the Premier League or work in England, and then we see them overseas at either a UEFA or a FIFA event. And, yeah, I just think if you're nice to people, they're more likely to be nice back to you.
13:53John Murray:But in all seriousness, though, your face has to be sort of like that recognition point, if you like, when you're in the tunnel, because you're waiting, you know, many people would have heard you doing the interviews live into Sports Report, where you've only got that short period of time. You'll have made your way down from the gantry into position, your equipment is set up, and then it's all about the eye contact, whether it be with one of the match managers that you're talking about, or indeed one of the press officers, for them to get your eye contact, for you to sort of like beckon somebody over to make sure that they're then on the radio to do the interview.
14:27I think it definitely helps if they know you and definitely helps if they recognize you and also as you say just being ready but i mean now more than ever there are so many international broadcasters that we see on site and obviously you've got players you've got managers bouncing around between the various booths where they do the interviews and yeah if the press officer looks at you and you nod they know that you're ready so they come over and they go live on sports report and that's one of one of the biggest thrills really is that in TV, there are still some live interviews done, but pretty much all our interviews in Sports Report are live.
15:09Yeah. And that's a great, you know, it's a great buzz. It's a great thrill. It's a program, obviously, I listened to when I was growing up. And it's special to be part of. You know, when Mark Chapman, when Herr Chapman queues across and you're live with, whether it be Pep Guardiola or Arna Slott, you know you've really only got three questions so you've sort of got to cover everything off in only three questions occasionally you might get four but you've had Claire of course Claire on the pod before and she normally is the one in my ear going you've got two questions and you think well I was going to ask three questions so how do I do this now in two and I was actually I remember a few years ago this was at Goodison Park I was given one question and one question only and literally had managed to drag, in the nicest possible sense of the word, Dave Whelan into the interview position.
16:04And Wigan had beaten Everton to get through to the semifinals of the FA Cup. And they said, we really want some Wigan reaction before we move on to the next game. And so literally managed to get Dave in. I said, Dave, this is going to be quite short. And as we went live, I thought I might get two questions, maybe three. It was Ben North who was producing back then, my colleague Ben, who said to me, you've got one question, which was basically, Dave, thanks for joining us on the Sports Report. How do you feel? He answered in 30 seconds, thank you for joining us. And then that was it. But that's the beauty of live radio, isn't it, really?
16:41We've got everything we wanted.
16:42Ian Dennis:I remember you getting that treatment as well with Vitor Pereira. Was that his first game with Wolves? I think it was, yeah. So this was the first interview I think we'd done with him live. and you asked the opening question, did they win his first game with Wolves? Can you remember? I think they probably did, because he was in very good spirits. Yeah, he was. Anyway, whatever had happened, you asked him the opening question, so pleased with that, Vitor? You must be. And then he proceeded to give what must have been a four-minute answer. He did. Yeah, he did. Vitor Pereira, thanks very much. Thank you for joining us.
17:19Indeed, answering every single question I was going to ask you.
17:22Ian Dennis:Who have you been your favorite interviewees? Oh, good question that. You must have interviewed, you probably interviewed 100 Premier League managers. Yeah, I must have done down the years. And I mean, the one who is sort of missing from my CV is Sir Alex, because of course, he wasn't talking to the BBC for a significant number of years. But I always enjoyed interviewing Jose Mourinho. you knew you were always going to get something from Jose. Pep Guardiola is always interesting, and there's definitely a few different versions of Pep you can meet after a game. But Jurgen Klopp, I mean, Jurgen just so warm, gregarious, sort of like a big grizzly bear, and obviously could bear his teeth on the odd occasion.
18:13But more often than not, he was really, really fun to interview. but we've had some good ones down and the bizarre thing is of course the ones we then go on to work with like Sean Dyche has obviously worked for us um who else has worked David Moyes David Moyes Steve Bruce has obviously worked for us as well and that's always an interesting dynamic when you sort of worked with them and then you go back to interviewing them Chris Wilder Dean Smith we've had a lot down the years really haven't we so yeah it's always an interesting dynamic when I I mean, the Sean Dyche one was really quite interesting.
18:48He actually worked on the League Cup final, was it? Or the FA Cup final? It was, wasn't it? And he was really good on the day. But one of my jobs as well, if you will, is to make sure that within the commentary, it should sound as good as it's going to sound. Now, obviously, in your case, case is, you know exactly what you're doing. But with someone like Sean, who doesn't do it week in, week out, there might be a bit of indiscipline. Is that the best word to use? And, you know, personally, I'm a big believer in one voice at a time, particularly during a commentary. So during the League Cup, sorry, the FA Cup final of last year, I did have to have a quiet word for him at half time because he was very animated on the goal, which was scored by Crystal Palace.
19:32And he took it really well, to be fair. I mean, I wasn't giving him the finger wagging sort of, Sean, you need to do this. But I just sort of said to him, you know, just have a think about that one voice at a time. Everything else, brilliant. loved everything you've said so far but just allow the commentator to say what they need to say so the audience knows what's happened and then you can come in off the back and it was quite surreal really because that's basically what Sean will be saying to his players week in week out you need to do this you need to make a little tweak there um yeah and it is um I mean I'm you know in my 50s now so it sort of probably doesn't feel the same as it would have done if I'd been sort of 22, 23.
20:12Sean may have not taken it in the same way had it been 22 or 23, but he was as good as gold and he was a really great guest on the day. But there was that sort of thought in my head where I'm thinking, I'm telling a current Premier League manager here how he should be doing this. And the other one, which always gets me, is Peter Schmeichel. And Peter's worked a lot for us, hasn't he, over recent years. And he is really warm. And if you'd said to me that I'll be comparing notes or chatting about interview technique with the football legend that is Peter Schmeichel, you know, 20 years down the line, and I said, you'd be absolutely off your rocket.
20:47But we have, you know, but he does the post-match interviews when he works on the Champions League coverage, and he really enjoys it. And just from time to time, he's just sort of asked me, you know, how I go about it, and I've just given him a couple of suggestions, really. So, but he's a great guy, great to work with. And whenever we see him, you normally get a big bear hug from him as well. Who's been the most difficult person to interview?
21:13Ian Dennis:tell our listeners when you're interviewing pep guardiola how do you know when pep guardiola is ready for the interview to end normally after the first question but he does have an amazing ability to sort of shuffle his feet and almost michael jackson moonwalking style it's sort of he's trying to get away from you, but he doesn't necessarily move that far. But then you do know that once he's sort of edged away, sort of backwards from you, away from you, then that is sort of when he's looking to get away. And when he refers to the interviewer as... My friend? Yes.
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21:52John Murray:You still haven't answered the question. I was giving him some thinking time here. I mean, funny enough, the experience which I had was with a manager who I did actually get on with pretty well in the grand scheme of things. But on this particular day, it was the most bizarre post-match interview I've ever done. And this was the Burnley manager, Stan Turnant, who is a good guy. And obviously, he's gone on to be a scout. He worked with Steve Bruce, didn't he, at Hull City for a number of years. And when I've seen him around a couple of times, Stan, nice to see you. But this was after a game. I was working at Radio Lancashire.
22:33and it was a Lancashire derby, Preston North End 5, Burnley 3. Thrilling game, end-to-end, but clearly being the losing manager, Stan was not particularly happy with the final result and you wouldn't expect him to be. So when he came in for the post-match interview, it wasn't a separate radio interview, it was pre-recorded as well. So he stood in front of me and I was surrounded by all the local journalists as well from the Lancashire Evening Post and the Burnley Express, the Lancashire Telegraph. And I thought, well, he's not going to be happy, so we'll just keep it nice and simple. And I said, Stan, I said, clearly a great game for the neutral, plenty of goals, plenty of action.
23:18But how did you see it today? And his response was, how dare you? how dare you come in here and point the finger of blame at my goalkeeper and i said stan i said with the greatest of respect i don't think i mentioned brian jensen's name and it continued on and he said no i'm not having it this is almost character assassination you've literally thrown my goalkeeper under the bus and i think i followed it with another question which again got pretty short shrift and so at that point I thought well I've got a little bit of audio on tape there there's other people in the room they can ask some questions so this interview sort of rumbled on with a few of the questions he was a little bit better with some of the other questions the problem was that on this day I'd also been told that Stan had spoken to his chairman in the tunnel after the game and well basically suggested he was going to offer his resignation off the back of the defeat and i'm thinking well i probably do need to ask this question at some point but i'm thinking now is not necessarily the time to do it i thought somebody else might ask the question but unfortunately they didn't so i stuck the hard hat on and thought right here we go let's go back in stan just before you leave can i just ask you the question is there any truth in the rumor you offered your resignation after the game and you can imagine his response it was no i would never disrespect my football club um i don't know where you get your information from something along those lines and then literally as he was answering this question the door to the press room flies open in a cartoon style door slams against the wall and the the late great John Gwynne once of Sky Sports and indeed of BBC Radio is at the door panting literally panting at the door we've all turned to look at him and John says to Stan he He says, Stan.
25:42And Stan turns around to him and says, yes. John Gwynn, Sky Sports. Stan says, I know who the... You are, John. He says, what do you want? He says, Stan, is it true you've offered your resignation? And Stan at this point says, oh, all right then. Yes, I wasn't very happy after the game. Yes, I did see the chairman. I did offer my resignation. But he said he wasn't going to take it. and that was sort of the end of the most surreal post-match interview experience I think I've ever had and yeah, the sort of, the back anode to that was my boss at the time at Radio Lancashire was also called Gary, Gary Hickson and we had a chat, we edited the interview slightly before it went out in there to make it sound slightly better for both of us in all honesty but Burnley I think were playing again on the Tuesday and he said to me, my boss Gary said to me what do you want to do?
26:39And I said I'll go and see him on Monday and Gary had spoken to Stan and we both met up at the training ground at Gorthorpe and we sort of walked towards each other and I went Stan are we alright? And he said I'm alright if you're alright I went good, we shook hands and then we continued on our merry way but yeah, I mean honestly he was such a great person to talk to but he was a bad loser but then show me a really successful manager who is not a bad loser.
27:08Ian Dennis:Most of them are. They are, to be fair. But yeah, I'll never ever forget that day. And anyone who was in the room as well is unlikely to forget it either. But yeah, that was quite surreal.
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29:05Ian Dennis:So this is The Commentator's View, where we five live commentators talk about the football, our travels and the language we use in football commentary. On which note, we will get onto our great glossary of football commentary a little bit later on. And suggestions for fresh terms and phrases are always welcome to tcv at bbc.co.uk on the emails or voice notes to WhatsApp on 08000 289 369. Coming up over the course of this weekend, before we get into the England squad, which is why we are here at Wembley, let's just tell you the commentaries that we've got coming up this weekend. So Saturday, midday, Manchester City against Tottenham in the WSL on Sports Extra on your BBC Sounds app.
29:53Ian Dennis:Then, Ian, Saturday, three o 'clock, you are remaining in London for Fulham against Burnley. The only three o 'clock commentary in the top flight this weekend. And Mr. Michael Brown is going to be alongside you for that one. He is. At 5.30, Everton, Chelsea from Goodison Park, from the Hill Dickinson Stadium. That's your influence, Gary. Mine? Yes, it is. I was not mentioned in Goodison before. Yes, it was. And I think you'll find it's Hill Dickinson. There's no there as per the email we received earlier in the season. Well, thanks very much. I must have missed that email. It was a surprise. I don't know quite how I missed that.
30:28Ian Dennis:Sports Extra on Sunday, 12 o 'clock, Brighton against Liverpool in the WSL. Commentary on Sunday at 2.15 on Aston Villa against West Ham in the Premier League. Charlie Slater and Luke Chambers with the commentary there. And then Five Live on Sunday. what a big day that is we'll keep you across the Newcastle-Sunderland match which kicks off at 12 o 'clock 2.15 Tottenham against Nottingham Forest with Jonathan Pearce and Paul Robinson and that builds up to the League Cup final Ian, Arsenal against Manchester City when Matthew Upson will be with us, you and me, we're sharing the commentary aren't we with it being Cup final, Steph Horton is with us as well, Julien Laurent and that is I'm not sure there's been a much more anticipated League Cup final.
31:17John Murray:This stat surprised me when I read it. In the history of the League Cup, and this is the 66th year, it is the first time that the two top teams in the country are contesting the final, which I was really surprised about when you're given the longevity of the competition. And also, not only, I think it's going to be a very fascinating final just because of the nature of the two teams and how good they are, but also the psychological impact that it could have on the title race as well. And given what's happened in Europe, Manchester City looking to bounce back after the disappointment of going out to Real Madrid.
31:56John Murray:They've now got obviously a little bit more leeway in terms of less games in the title race, whereas it's going to be a little bit more congested for Arsenal. But who wins at the weekend and what impact it could have in the title race? Because it's Arsenal's title to lose.
32:11Ian Dennis:I agree with that but I also think it's the way that it happens if it's a big win by either Manchester City or Arsenal which I think we'd be surprised by wouldn't we? What happens within the game? Will there be incidents within the game? And also, were it to be tight? Were it to go to extra time? Were it to go to a penalty shootout? Whether that would have quite the same impact if it's been very tight between the teams. But we won't know until it happens, will we?
32:42John Murray:No, we won't. But if you look back in recent league games, Mikel Arteta, I get the impression, has just got a little bit of a number on Pep Guardiola now. And how Pep Guardiola responds, obviously the two of them worked together for a period of time when Arteta was on the coaching staff at the Etihad. So I just think there are a number of dynamics around the game that make it very, very interesting.
33:07Ian Dennis:Just thought we saw incredible hunger. And OK, you know, in the end, it didn't go for them against Real Madrid in the second leg. But with the 10 men, I thought they were remarkable the way that they launched that onslaught against Real Madrid. So Five Live, the place to hear it. And also, don't forget, Five Live will also be the place to hear the league match next month at the Etihad Stadium. So that is another date for your diary. So that is Sunday afternoon. and then this coming midweek Tuesday night, 8 o 'clock Arsenal against Chelsea in the Women's Champions League quarterfinal first leg Alibaba and Fran Kirby will be your commentary team there Thursday, 7.45 some of these World Cup playoff that are coming up are promised to be box office Wales against Bosnia-Herzegovina is the commentary on Thursday night and then on Friday England, Uruguay in the first of England's friendlies when Paul Robinson will be with us, Ian.
34:06Ian Dennis:So these two friendlies, as we speak now, this is just a couple of hours after Thomas Tuchel named his 35-man squad for the friendlies against Uruguay and Japan. And, I mean, there are all sorts of headlines, aren't there, in terms of, you know, who you would pick out from this. I think the omission of Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ollie Watkins, Luke Shaw, that's in terms of who's not in the squad, but James Garner involved for the first time. The picking of fifth goalkeeper, Jason Steele. Harry Maguire, Kobe Menuh back. Lewis Hall, Tino Liveramento. They're all in for Kyle Tamori. Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Dominic Solanke included with Ollie Watkins not in the squad.
34:51Ian Dennis:And I also think Phil Foden still in the squad. Cole Palmer involved for the first time for England this season. And Jude Bellingham's going to be with the squad. But judging by what Thomas Tuchel was saying, probably won't get on the pitch.
35:04John Murray:And also, in addition to that and all the individuals you've named, it is also, I think he said it was unorthodox in your interview that you did with Thomas Tuchel, but it is unique in the sense that not only is he named 35 in the squad, but the fact that 11 of them, Henderson, Byrne, Gehe, Consa, O 'Reilly, Anderson, Saka, Kane, Rice, Rogers and Gordon are all going to get a rest. So they won't feature in the first game against Uruguay. They'll then link up either Friday evening or Saturday morning. So essentially, you're going to have two camps. And then at that point, England will release some players as well.
35:40John Murray:So I think it's interesting from that 11 that we've just rattled through that I think he said this as well. If the plane was leaving next week, they'd be on it. I think they look, barring injury, that there'd be certainties to go to the World Cup. But for others, he's going to have 19 outfield players and four goalkeepers in his first squad from Tuesday to Saturday. And then 22 outfield players and three to four goalkeepers for the Japan match. So that is an opportunity, particularly for the first part of the week, to really stake your claim to get into that World Cup squad.
36:15Ian Dennis:Yeah, and it's something completely different. I don't think we've seen anything like this before. and when I spoke to Thomas Tuchel, he explained all about splitting the camp into two. We split the window because I think it's a unique window. First of all, we're qualified, we've done our job and that means we have two friendly matches which come in a very decisive part of the season in club football. But at the same time, it's the last camp before the World Cup So to tick all the boxes we decided and to get the best out of this camp, we decided to split it basically in two camps, get to know some new players, some new faces, let them compete in a small competitive squad of 19 players plus goalkeepers in the first part of the camp.
37:05That gives us the chance to have four training sessions and the match with the first group of players and then 11 players who were heavily involved in European football, club football and for us, come later and join the group on Friday evening and Saturday morning to be ready for the match against Japan. And just run us through those 11. The 11 are Dean Henderson, Dan Byrne, Mark Gehi, Esri Konza, Nico O 'Reilly, Elliot Anderson, Declan Rice, Morgan Rogers, Anthony Gordon, Harry Kane and Bukayo Saka.
37:40Ian Dennis:OK, and just to check, those 11 will have a total break, complete break, yeah? Yes, of course, they're adults and they have a break. Were they surprised when you said that? Yeah, I guess so, but no one intervened, so there were quite some smiles on the Zoom call. Yeah, I guess they were surprised and fair enough. I think all of them want to come, so they're also a little bit biased. I feel them, that they always want to come. But once I explain to them why I do this, I think they see it as a sign of trust and we're very happy about it. Just one final one, I thought it was interesting. You're not ruling out the possibility of 16-year-old Max Dowman potentially being in?
38:31Why should I rule that out? I mean, Rio has a good season in Liverpool now and making his way into the team. Max is making his points on highest level. So why would we rule anything out? It's March and we leave in June. We have to name our squad in late May. So everything is possible.
38:51Ian Dennis:So there we are, Thomas Tuchel on a most unusual World Cup squad, this squad of 35.
38:58John Murray:That was an interesting last answer that he gave you there, wasn't it? When you asked him about Max Dowman, that he then, he threw in Rio and Gamora into the mix. this teenager at Liverpool, where I don't think I'd seen Ngamoua talked about, and yet he was then willing to discuss him.
39:14Ian Dennis:It's a remarkable thing. Throughout the course of the time, Thomas Tuchel's being manager, I think every single time I have prepared, I've got the piece of paper in front of me here, with all of the potential names that I think could be in the frame for that particular England squad, I think every single time he has come up with a name that I haven't got on my list. And this morning, I went to the squad announcement I think it was with 68 names on the list. And still, Jason Steele is someone who I certainly did not have anywhere near the radar.
39:50John Murray:No, but I don't think Jason Steele will play. I think the trial for Jason Steele, I mean, he's only played five times for Brighton, all in the cup competitions this season. I think it says more about his character and his experience that what they're going to try and do over the course of this international camp is that they're going to see how he fits in in terms of the support structure and the network of the goalkeepers. because the view is that he will then go as an unregistered goalkeeper to the World Cup, a little bit like what Tom Heaton did at the Euros in Germany, and he will then supplement the goalkeeping coach to work with the three England keepers who England do name in that final squad of 26.
40:34Ian Dennis:Just on Trent Alexander-Arnold, I know that in advance of this, my feeling was, well, anyone who's fit who's not in this squad is probably out of contention. But in actual fact, when you look at this squad, quite a number of the players are those who he's not seen, he's not had in his squad, like Cobby Manu, like Harry Maguire, like the Dominics, Solanke and Calvert-Lewin. He has seen players that he's not had in his England squad. And he has had Trent Alexander-Arnold in the squad. And he did say to us today, didn't he, like with Luke Shaw, he said, I know what they can do. They've played against my teams and I've seen them play in tournaments.
41:13Ian Dennis:so I think as he said they are still on the long list so yes it's it's they're up against it I don't think they're completely out of it or do you think they are out of it I think barring a
41:28John Murray:spate of injuries I I just think you've got to be in contention at this I mean contrast that to the 11 players who've been named but won't feature in that game against Uruguay they to me are certainties barring injury to go to the World Cup I like you think that if you're not part of this squad of 35 you've got work to do to get in it incidentally we've just seen an excellent piece
41:52Ian Dennis:of production by Gary this is what Gary does so you allowed your was it your iPad or your laptop
42:00John Murray:to run out of power well I didn't allow it to do that you allowed it to do it it drained rather rapidly and who came to the rescue so whilst we were listening to Thomas Tuchel I just said to Gary I said Gary do you have a power bank because we're nowhere near a power adapter and of course plug it in and Gary you came up as if by magic yeah and that's what that's what you do typical isn't it yeah I mean power banks
42:25antihistamines anything of that nature and plugs charging devices all that kind of thing microphones and I should say above when Gary comes to a match
42:37Ian Dennis:Gary brings more equipment than any other producer, doesn't he, Ian? You know, some of the, I mean, he's got a suitcase that, he looks like he's going for a fortnight in Toro Molinos.
42:49John Murray:Well, listen, I'm not going to make any disparaging comments after Gary. Well, he's just helped, yeah, hasn't he? Yes, yeah, remember that.
42:56Ian Dennis:Yeah, so, you know, let's just remember the timeline for England. These two friendlies in March against Uruguay in Japan, which I think will be quite unusual because of the personnel who are going to be involved. 30th of May, England have to submit their squad of 35 players for the World Cup, which would obviously apply to Scotland as well. And that has to be whittled down to a final squad of 26 before the first game. And then England have got two friendlies in Florida against New Zealand and Costa Rica before the whole thing gets underway. So you'll be able to hear all of that with us on Five Live.
43:34Ian Dennis:and BBC Sounds. We should move, shouldn't we, onto correspondence because we've still got the unintended pub names and we've still got the great glossary of football commentary. So, correspondence this week. First of all, Corey in Brazil.
43:50John Murray:Hello all. I was listening to the Manchester United versus Villa game when John mentioned that some of the Muslim players in the United team prefer listening to the Quran instead of music before a game. John said this was the first time he'd heard of this As a Muslim, I can say that before or while doing anything that requires presence or focus, I will always choose the Quran over music. It gives us peace and connection to God, something we're searching for even more in this blessed month of Ramadan. I can imagine it keeps the players grounded, especially before a big game. It was lovely to hear John mention this, and I wanted to add that I feel the same as those players.
44:29John Murray:And Corey says thank you.
44:30Ian Dennis:No, thank you, Corey, for that. I must say, when I read that, it was in the Manchester United match programme before the Aston Villa game last weekend. And I have to confess, I've thought about that quite a lot during the course of the past week, that that's what Amar Jawa will do. And it was an answer to the old, old question, you know, what music do you listen to before the match? And that's what he came up with as an answer. So, yes, thank you, Corey, for that. We've also had an email from Scott, who says, Dear John, Ian and Ali, who is away incidentally this week covering the athletics. Scott says, I've been meaning to email following the chat about random items which used to be taken into football grounds.
45:15Ian Dennis:We have a family one, which I hope will be of interest. We've always been a family of Wolverhampton Wanderers, brackets, a name which seems to have been dropped for wolves, end brackets. and I can vividly remember talking to my granddad, Bri, about the great Wolves teams of the 1940s and 50s. When it came time for my dad, Dave, to attend matches at Molyneux in the late 1960s, early 1970s, he was still a young lad and as such, my granddad constructed a wooden stool for him to stand on in the corner of the South Bank Terrace. This was something they used to take from Canock to Wolverhampton via the trolley bus for each home game.
46:05Ian Dennis:He's actually sent us a picture here and he continues. After my granddad passed away in November 2020, my dad discovered that the stool still existed. My granddad had kept it and used it when he needed to get to those hard to reach places around the bungalow. After a slight cosmetic restoration, the stool now sits in pride of place in my parents' house, alongside images and memories of my granddad. These include an old photo of Molyneux, which also sits above the stool, which we bought in 2022, so the stool and the south bank could be reunited. That's lovely, isn't it?
46:48John Murray:It is. That was a great terrace as well, wasn't it? Yes. The South Bank.
46:54Ian Dennis:Unintended pub names. We always love your suggestions for these, as we call them, or as Paul Robinson coined it, unintended pub names that you've heard in any sports commentary. So the last time we had the Crumb of Comfort and the Unfortunate Medina, this week we have an email or indeed a voice message from Leicester fan Amit who says hi football commentator trio here's an unintended pub name from Ian Dennis from Aston Villa versus
47:29John Murray:Leeds four minutes remaining Bogard's going to be coming on for Aston Villa there is further activity as well as Sancho darts in opened up for him instead he looks towards Cash and Cash can't keep the ball in play. The other change will be Garcia. So the last throw of the dice, really, from Unai Emery.
47:49Ian Dennis:Amit says the last throw of the dice is definitely a pub where you make bad life decisions.
47:58John Murray:Well, not necessarily, Amit. The last throw of the dice, all of a sudden, you know, you might decide to have that one drink in that particular establishment and all of a sudden, hey, presto, it might change your life with the last throw of the dice. A little bit of optimism.
48:15Ian Dennis:Good one, the last throw of the dice. Several people, as we will now hear Ian, have picked up on another one.
48:23John Murray:Yes, here's one that we missed on last week's episode regarding the unfortunate Medina clip from the Newcastle Carabao game.
48:32Ian Dennis:Jacob Murphy involved in the match for the first time really, left for a shot, deflected up and in, over the goalkeeper's dive. Jacob Murphy will claim that.
48:41John Murray:Now this is what I like about where we get sort of like the description of the various pubs and suggestions. So Newcastle fan Hamza says, Guys, you missed another sitter when it comes to unfortunate pub names. When Jacob Murphy scores, you said the goalkeepers dive, definitely somewhere that the unfortunate Spurs goalkeeper would have been visiting last week.
49:03Ian Dennis:And Leslie in Chorley says, surely I can't be the only one who spotted the goalkeeper's dive from last week's episode. The dive would be a dark backstreet room, sticky floor, a desperate refuge for those needing to drown their sorrows.
49:22John Murray:And Terry M. Bromley says the goalkeeper's dive would be an appropriately grim establishment where distressed keepers would assemble to console each other on their latest mishaps. The background music would be melancholy Morrissey tunes on loop and the pint glasses would have handles to make them harder to drop.
49:40Ian Dennis:So thank you to Hamza, Leslie and Terry for that.
49:44John Murray:And how about this from Matt in Milton Keynes?
49:49Hello, chaps. I know they say a minute can be a long time in football. I meant to send this voice message just after the North London derby, but I was absolutely sure I wouldn't be the only person to have heard this accidental pub name. Ball play for Dragosin, trussling with Jocheres who goes to ground. It's the Tottenham man who comes out with the ball and after that just adjusts the little bun that he has on the top of his hair with a confident air he has spent. It was the Spurs defender that had been up for a tussle and I think his hair had come loose. and a poignant description of him reattaching his bun to his long locks followed to which one of you described his hair as confident hair and I thought the confident hair a grand Cotswold gastropub full of trinkets and extortionate prices we're talking 8.50 for a pint minimum.
50:57Keep up the good work. Don't walk my dog anymore because unfortunately we lost our dog just last week. So this is a way of making me feel better and a big up to the old man Rufus who is greatly missed. Thanks guys.
51:14Ian Dennis:Oh thank you Matt. We'll send our sympathies to Matt. Very sad news but thanks for the contribution and the confident hare.
51:23John Murray:The way there that Matt just let the birds tweet before he started speaking. I could conjure him walking out in the countryside. Obviously he's thinking of Rufus. Sorry to hear of your loss with Rufus, but the confident hare. I wouldn't be partial to paying £8.50 for the pint, I've got to say.
51:43Ian Dennis:No, I know you wouldn't, but just think the way those birds were tweeting. It just felt like Rufus was watching down. And yes, emails to tcv at bbc.co.uk whatsapps to 08000 289 369 now it is time, we're actually going to give the Clash of the Commentators a miss this week aren't we Ian? That's good. That's alright, I'm happy with that
52:07John Murray:I'm having still a bit of a wobble.
52:08Ian Dennis:Well you are having a wobble and when I heard that we were giving Clash of the Commentators a rest this week I did wonder whether maybe the Court for Arbitration for Sport had insisted maybe that the whole thing had to be suspended while they look into the controversial episode.
52:23John Murray:I tell you what, I wish that it would be suspended. Is you talking about it? I think the Court of Arbitration for Sports got a bit on at the minute with the African Football Federation. Yeah, so that might delay it.
52:36Ian Dennis:Might delay it even further.
52:37John Murray:Actually, that doesn't help my cause at all, that. Because I'm thinking, I think, the decision's gone now, let it go. Yes. But you think about the time lapse that we've had. Well said. Well said, Ian.
52:48Ian Dennis:Well said. however yes that's very much one for regular listeners and actually we've had this from damien in york who says thanks damien he says i can't believe that they managed to change the africa cup of nations final result before restoring justice for john following that clash of the commentators episode you say you just won't go away it won't go away because you
53:18John Murray:keep talking about it.
53:19Ian Dennis:I didn't talk about it. Damien's talking about it. So excellent, excellent email, Damien. More like that, please. Let's move on. Now, for the great glossary of football commentary, as we add commentary terms and phrases to our collection, you can find our entire glossary in the episode description. So, Division 1 for football exclusive terms, Division 2 for terms used in football commentary, but also used in other sports.
53:47John Murray:Talking of which, I've had a rap on the knuckles from Andrew Murray. Oh, yeah. You know, from part of the Five Live golfing team because he texted me two weeks ago and suggested Piledriver and I said, oh, I'll mention that and then I didn't mention it last week and he said, what happened to Piledriver? And I just remembered. So his suggestion is Piledriver.
54:08Ian Dennis:That would be Division 1, wouldn't it? I can't imagine that would be in another sport, Gary? Piledriver? I think that would be Division 1 Nothing comes to mind No Last week we put Paul Robinson's term Channel of Joy into Division 1 This week we have Donny in France Who says I've seen the phrase goalkeepers union In your unsorted category Perhaps this could go into Division 2 I don't know enough about hockey But I suspect that hockey goalkeepers get together to complain about the amount of kit they need to carry compared to their teammates. It could also be an unintended pub name overlooking the same village green as another recent entry, the man in the middle.
54:54Ian Dennis:The goalkeepers union would be full of practical but slightly eccentric loners railing against the rest of the village. But sure in the knowledge, the village wouldn't survive without them. Given the fashion for goalkeepers having details of penalty takers on their water bottles, Regulars might have a tankard behind the bar on which they would have engraved their friend's favourite tipple to speed up rounds being bought. Thanks for the excellent podcast and commentaries and the recent discussion with John Hunt was brilliant, says Donny in France. Division two for goalkeepers union? Yeah. Can't be division one, can it?
55:33I don't think so. Not when you've got goalkeepers in other sports.
55:37Ian Dennis:Yeah, so they'll be busy. Paul Robinson and friends, won't they? They're going from the goalkeeper's dive to the goalkeeper's union. If there's one man that can do it. It's a good point, Gary.
55:48John Murray:We've had this from Dan in Sheffield. I find listening to the TCV pod the perfect way to unwind at the end of a stressful working week and usher in the sporting weekend. I'd like to submit a suggestion for the great glossary. Palm trees at football grounds have been a recent discussion topic, but what about Sting the Palms of the goalkeeper? Thanks for your wonderful work. I've listened to BBC Sports Radio commentary for over 40 years and cannot imagine my weekends without it. Well, thank you, Dan. Thank you for listening.
56:22Ian Dennis:Well done, Dan. Excellent commitment. I think Sting the Palms. See, I would say Division 2. 2. Think of a cover drive. Yes, Sting the Palms. Yeah, you're absolutely right, Ian. Yeah. and actually that was me talking about palm trees wasn't it it was and I was given a real lift this week going to Barcelona where they love a palm tree in Barcelona of course they do they do yeah so that's that real that put a that put a spring in my step this week one more from Anthony in Cork during this morning's Wake Up To Money on 5 Live the sports news came on with Harry Roy Newcastle United's run in the Champions League also came to an end too after a 7-2 drubbing away in Barcelona which means Liverpool and Arsenal says Anthony Harry referred to Newcastle's defeat to Barcelona as a 7-2 drubbing a drubbing to me means a heavy defeat a thrashing a hammering I've not heard used in other sports nor have I heard it used in daily life I will bow to your superior knowledge as to which division it should go into keep up the good work.
57:33Ian Dennis:A drubbing? That's got to be Division 2. Yeah, you'd have one of them in rugby, wouldn't you? Yeah, you would.
57:37John Murray:At the very least. Yeah. What is, what's the game that you've done where you've seen the most goals?
57:43Ian Dennis:England won 10-0 against San Marino. Oh, they did win 10-0. We did the game together. Yeah. We were all there.
57:53So, apart from that one.
57:56Ian Dennis:And I think that's the only 10-0 I've commentated on although I've played in a few 10-0s when I was in goal. Oh. Conceded 10? Yeah, not more than one as well.
58:09John Murray:You should have thrown your cap on it. I should have.
58:12Ian Dennis:When I was at university playing at the time for the second team, we played against, I think it was Swansea University and I played in the first match for the second team. It was something like, first match we lost 10-0 or 10-1 or something. and Kerry, who was the first team goalkeeper, I think he went down ill. I then had to play in the next match and let in 11, let in 21 goals in a day.
58:41John Murray:What was it that Stan Tennant was saying about his goalkeeper? It wasn't just me.
58:48Ian Dennis:I'm surprised I've never told that story before. So there we are. That is the great glossary for this week. And in summary, we are putting goalkeepers union into Division 2, Sting the Palms, Division 2. Drubbing, Division 2. And Piledriver, Division 1.
59:11Ian Dennis:Hooray! Gary, excellent. Very much enjoyed having you on.
59:16John Murray:Yeah. There's no need for you to email in now, is there? No, there's not. No, no. Well, I mean, my email was completely and utterly dismissed. I did notice last week. It wasn't dismissed.
59:25Ian Dennis:We read it out. Yeah, in the manner in which you read it out, though. I mean, come on. Did you take Umbridge? Well, you obviously didn't take two Umbridge. No, I'm here now. It's been lovely to spend time with you because we hardly ever get the chance to do that.
59:42Ian Dennis:Anyway, I'm sure you've got a hazard assessment form to be filling out. I think Ali is back with us next week, isn't he? I think. Well, anyway, listen and find out. Do keep the unintended pub names and glossary suggestions coming in. Next week will be our Q &A episode. so keep those coming in as well to tcv at bbc.co.uk or you can send us a message or voice note on WhatsApp to 08000 289 369 and as we always say if you enjoy this in actual fact where we're supposed to do our best work is when we do actually commentate on football matches so listen if you can to us on 5 Live and BBC Sounds but that is it for this episode of the Football Daily and remember you can find each and every episode of The Commentator's View by scrolling down your Football Daily feed.
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John Murray & Ian Dennis are joined by producer Gary Flintoff. Also hear from Thomas Tuchel after he names his England squad. Gary gives a behind-the-scenes insight into what a football producer does and dishes the dirt on his most interesting post-match interviews. Plus more unintended pub names and terms for our Great Glossary of Football Commentary. Messages, questions and voicenotes welcome on WhatsApp to 08000 289 369 & emails to TCV@bbc.co.uk
03:00 What does a football producer do? 10:45 Gary’s face is his accreditation! 14:05 What’s it like interviewing Premier League managers? 19:55 Who’s the most difficult to interview? 27:30 5 Live commentaries this weekend, 29:05 History already in the League Cup Final, 32:00 Thomas Tuchel names his England squad, 34:15 Thomas Tuchel INTERVIEW, 44:45 Unintended pub names, 51:15 Great Glossary of Football Commentary.
5 Live / BBC Sounds commentaries: Sat 1200 Man City v Spurs in WSL on Sports Extra, Sat 1500 Fulham v Burnley, Sat 1730 Everton v Chelsea, Sun 1415 Spurs v Nottingham Forest, Sun 1415 Aston Villa v West Ham on Sports Extra, Sun 1630 League Cup Final - Arsenal v Man City.
Great Glossary of Football Commentary: DIVISION ONE Agricultural challenge, Back of the net, Back to square one, Booked, Bosman, Bullet header, Channel of joy, Coupon buster, Cruyff Turn, Cultured/educated left foot, Dead-ball specialist, Draught excluder, Elastico/flip-flap, False nine, Fox in the box, Giving the goalkeeper the eyes, Grub hunter, Head tennis, Hibs it, In a good moment, In behind, Magic of the FA Cup, The Maradona, Off their line, Olimpico, Onion bag, Panenka, Park the bus, Perfect hat-trick, Piledriver, Put his cap on it, Rabona, Roy of the Rovers stuff, Schmeichel-style, Scorpion kick, Spursy, Stick it in the mixer, Sweeper keeper, Target man, Tiki-taka, Towering header, Trivela, Where the kookaburra sleeps, Where the owl sleeps, Where the spiders sleep. DIVISION TWO 2-0 can be a dangerous score, Asterisk, Back on the grass, Ball stays hit, Beaten all ends up, Blaze over the bar, Business end, Came down with snow on it, Catching practice, Camped in the opposition half, Cauldron atmosphere Coat is on a shoogly peg, Come back to haunt them, Corridor of uncertainty, Couldn’t sort their feet out, Easy tap-in, Daisy-cutter, Drubbing, First cab off the rank, Giant-killing, Goalkeepers’ Union, Good leave, Good touch for a big man, Half-turn, Has that in his locker, High wide and not very handsome, Hospital pass, Howler, In the dugout, In the hat, In their pocket, Johnny on the spot, Lackadaisical, Leading the line, Leather a shot, Middle of the park, Needed no second invitation, Nice headache to have, No-look pass, Nutmeg, On their bike, One for the cameras, One for the purists, Played us off the park, Points to the spot, Prawn sandwich brigade, Purple patch, Put their laces through it, Queensbury rules, Reaches for their pocket, Rolls Royce, Root and branch review, Row Z, Screamer, Seats on the plane, Show across the bows, Slide-rule pass, Staving off relegation, Steal a march, Sting the palms, Straight in the bread basket, Stramash, Taking one for the team, Telegraphed that pass, Tired legs, That’s great… (football), Thunderous strike, Turns on a sixpence, Walk it in, We’ve got a cup tie on our hands. UNSORTED After you Claude, All-Premier League affair, Aplomb, Bag/box of tricks, Brace, Brandished, Bread and butter, Breaking the deadlock, Bundled over the line, Champions elect / champions apparent, Clinical finish, Commentator’s curse, Denied by the woodwork, Draught excluder, Elimination line, Fellow countryman, Foot race, Formerly of this parish, Free hit, Goalmouth scramble, Honeymoon Period, In and around, In the shop window, Keeping ball under their spell, Keystone Cops defending, Languishing, Loitering with intent, Marching orders, Nestle in the bottom corner, Numbered derbies, Opposite number, PK for penalty-kick, Postage stamp, Rasping shot, Red wine not white wine, Relegation six-pointer, Rooted at the bottom, Route One, Sending the goalkeeper the wrong way, Shooting boots, Sleeping giants, Slide rule pass, Small matter of, Spiders web, Stayed hit, Steepling,
Stonewall penalty, Straight off the training ground, Taking one for the team, Team that likes to play football, Thruppenny bit head / 50p head, Two good feet, Turning into a basketball match, Turning into a cricket score, Usher/Shepherd the ball out of play, Walking a disciplinary tightrope, Wand of a left foot, Wrap foot around it, Your De Bruynes, your Gundogans etc.
