World Cup: Spain Win The Tournament - 5 Live Reaction

19 Jul 2026 · 43 min · 17 chapters

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In short

Live BBC 5 Live reaction to the FIFA World Cup 2026 final, where Spain beat Argentina 1-0 after extra time (goal early in the second extra-time period by Ferran Torres). The discussion covers Spain’s tournament dominance, key match moments, and the post-match presentation and celebrations.

Guest backgrounds

Guillaume Balagué (Spanish football journalist; won/covered Spain’s 2010 World Cup and reflects on Spain’s “idea” and continuity). Tim Vickery (football writer/commentator; discusses Argentina’s squad and Messi’s future). Other voices include pundits Chris Sutton and Paul Robinson plus commentators John Murray and Ian Dennis.

Key claims

“Best team won” (Spain were slick, stingy, conceded one goal in eight matches). Luis de la Fuente’s coaching continuity is central; many squad players came through his youth setup. Argentina were second best and lost a pivotal moment via Enzo Fernández’s sending off; late punches by Paredes are condemned.

Notable examples

Spain’s run beating Portugal, Belgium, and France; Rodri highlighted as player of the tournament; Rodri receiving the trophy; Messi in tears; debate over a potential disallowed Nico Williams goal and referee/VAR timing.

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Spain's Victory Celebration

0:45 to 2:33

Spain has won the World Cup, defeating Argentina in a thrilling match.

“At the People World Cup 2026, the Football Daily Podcast with Kelly Gates.”

Reflection on Spain's Team and Strategy

2:33 to 4:25

Discussion on Spain's tactical excellence and the coaching of Luis de la Fuente.

“You can say they do maybe lack an ever-so-slight cutting edge, but it didn't matter today because they were by far and away the better side.”

Guillaume Balaguet's Emotional Response

4:25 to 6:13

Guillaume reflects on the significance of Spain's win and its implications for the future.

“Here, it's like, well, if it's not going to happen here, it's going to happen at some point.”

Spain's Path to Victory

6:13 to 11:04

An analysis of Spain's journey through the tournament and their final performance against Argentina.

“Because Kelly and what does happen after you win a World Cup is that that way of playing is going to be fashionable.”

Post-Match Reactions and Controversies

11:04 to 14:00

Hosts discuss post-match incidents and Spain's impressive defensive record.

“You look at the way that they've played, and conceding one goal to win a World Cup final.”

Referee Decisions and Game Influence

14:00 to 15:48

Discussion on the impact of referee decisions in the final game.

“It wasn't much of a foul but having blown his whistle and ended the game they can't then get VAR to look at something that is just a foul rather than a denial of a goal.”

Trophy Presentation Begins

15:48 to 17:17

The atmosphere around the trophy presentation with notable figures like Donald Trump.

“The negative noise that you can hear is because the US President Donald Trump is coming out alongside Gianni Infantino.”

Reflections on Argentina's Defeat

17:17 to 19:10

Analysis of Argentina's performance and implications for the team's future.

“the colour of Mexico, and the Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Carney, as well, is part of that line.”

Recognition of Players' Achievements

19:10 to 22:24

Highlighting individual awards and recognitions during the ceremony.

“day less rest and that was a factor, but they were very much second best, weren't they?”

Messi's Emotional Farewell and Legacy

22:24 to 26:50

Discussion on Messi's emotional reaction and his legacy in football.

“He has been a standout player, if not a sparkling player, if not a player of highlights and moments, but so important to what Spain do.”
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Spain's Victory Ceremony

26:50 to 28:00

Coverage of Spain's victory and the players receiving their medals.

Spain's Victory Celebration and Medal Presentation

28:00 to 33:00

Witness the emotional medal presentation and trophy handover as Spain celebrates its World Cup victory.

“I mean, it is an extraordinary run that he has had as the coach of Spain.”

Radio Nacional's Winning Goal Commentary

33:00 to 34:10

Experience the excitement of Ferran Torres's winning goal through the enthusiastic commentary from Spain's Radio Nacional.

“And it all came down to a winning goal from Ferran Torres.”

Reflections on the Winning Team and Tournament

34:10 to 36:30

Discussion on the significance of the win, the team's performance, and memorable moments throughout the tournament.

“You know, we won it twice in my lifetime.”

Psychological Shift in Spanish Football

36:30 to 39:50

Exploring the psychological change in Spanish football leading to their World Cup success.

“Yeah, but what I was trying to say is that Feb reads the game so well that tells the players what's about to happen, so when it happens, they're not surprised.”

Final Thoughts on the World Cup and Future

39:50 to 42:00

Concluding remarks on the tournament's highlights, challenges, and what lies ahead for football.

“from the big build-up to the closing ceremony, to the whole razzle-dazzle of the whole thing.”

Rivalry of Messi and Ronaldo

42:52 to 43:29

Exploring the legendary rivalry between Messi and Ronaldo and its impact on football.

“The 2023 Ballon d 'Or France footballer is Lionel Messi.”
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0:52Ian Dennis:Support to our right is incredible. The Argentina fans with their shirts being twirled in the air. hoping for one last chance, it will not come. And Spain have won the World Cup in New Jersey. 1-0 winners after extra time. They've beaten the holders, Argentina, who could not take that final step. And Spain, oh, they are such worthy winners. Spanish players running hither and thither. And there's also been a little bit of nonsense, I've seen a punch being thrown down there. There's some bad temper in the centre field, near the centre circle. But in all other areas, Spanish celebration, certainly in the stands.

1:38Ian Dennis:And Luis de la Fuente, what an achievement by him. European champions under the unheralded Luis de la Fuente two years ago. Now he's the coach of the World Cup winners. I think it is all calming down now, Chris. Yeah, it's Paredes who threw punches at Eric Garcia at the end of the game. I think he was unhappy with Garcia's reaction, but yeah, it's all settled down now. And let's get it right, the best team won, the best team of the tournament won. The slickest, the silkiest, the stingiest Spain. Absolutely phenomenal, and they thoroughly deserve it. Not to be for Lionel Messi this time, not to be for Argentina, and that sending off of Enzo Fernandes, obviously a pivotal moment in the game, Paul.

2:29Yeah, key moment in the game, but they've been outplayed the whole game, and that bad sportsmanship there at the end, there's a couple of punches thrown there, I don't like it when it happens to them at the end of the game, but I think from Spain's point of view, to win a World Cup by conceding only one goal, that tells you a lot about the team and it tells you a lot about the quality. and I think they're a team of an age that are going to grow, they'll grow together, they're an experienced team now at winning tournaments, and every time that I've seen in this tournament they've been impressive, and none more so to them today.

2:58You can say they do maybe lack an ever-so-slight cutting edge, but it didn't matter today because they were by far and away the better side.

3:05Ian Dennis:Yes, you're right, Paul, they've got a little bit of a nerve, haven't they, to react like that, bearing in mind how they reacted and how Barco, the substitute, ran around torting the England players after the goal that was scored in Atlanta. But Spain can celebrate, Argentina commiserate with one another. And after extra time, Spain winning with that goal right at the start of the second period of extra time from Ferran Torres. Spain won, Argentina nil in the World Cup final. Kelly Cates. And your commentary team here at the MetLife Stadium, John Murray and Ian Dennis, Chris Sutton and Paul Robinson.

3:43and we're also joined by Guillaume Balaguet. Guillaume, you talked about how much the World Cup meant to you in 2010 when Spain won it. What does this one mean to you? Right now, I love being here, but I'd love to have a space machine and jump and go to my mum's. My sister's there and her partner, and I know that she's going to be jumping up and down. It's not much more than a win. It's a sporting win. But to win this way, to win in a way that we started producing 30 years ago, people that come to your head is Iñaki Saez and Gines Menendez, and you've got no idea who they are. But those were the first guys that said, how about if we just pick players that can do what Spanish players can normally do, be intelligent on the pitch, understanding what's going on, give them weapons so they can, at whatever part of the game or on the pitch, they can give what it's necessary this is the consequence of an idea one when an idea is a is such a rich idea that give you success and now you have to say with in another area of success is the celebration of that the celebration of continuity of process but also of course i just want to give a hug to all my friends i mean i love you all here and just four of you are giving me the back I would just jump on top of you and just give you big kisses because that's what it feels like right now to win the World Cup but also to win it this way it feels really really well and the fact that it's happened 16 years after the last one as well but that cycle has continued there's been a new generation of it yeah in 2010 it was like oh we could win this we favorites we're doing really well but how about if we don't Are we haunted?

5:38Is this not possible anymore? Here, it's like, well, if it's not going to happen here, it's going to happen at some point. It happened in the Euros. It will happen again. Because the idea has finally succeeded. We've got a bit confused after 2010, but perhaps we didn't choose the right managers. Perhaps we didn't choose the right players. Here, this is a national team that has been built for the last 10 years by Luis de la Fuente. Not on purpose, but certainly, as we've been saying, 18 of the 26 that are here have been with him in the youth sides so there is a difference there is a difference and you have to give credit to Argentina and one thing certainly they defended so well they made it so difficult to beat them we knew what we had to do and we knew we were going to be patient by the way we have been patient in games in this tournament and the goals have came so you knew it could happen but they made it really really difficult even at the end in playing with them as you said this is the the culmination of an idea of a collection of great minds coming together and putting a plan together for spain to to reach this point but it's also what you said and i remember you saying in in a preview to this whole tournament and you said this is the team spain have got individuals yes but their collective is what is going to win them this world cup you were quite quietly but very confident.

7:00Because Kelly and what does happen after you win a World Cup is that that way of playing is going to be fashionable. I don't know for how long I don't know if everybody believes in it I don't know if everybody thinks it's their way forward but isn't it better to play this way to know that they are good people but because they're good people they're able to make efforts for each other open up space running for each other helping each other supporting each other and we're taking the essence of the spanish football that has always been which is the pass into a sublime form that actually wins your tournament so collective pass intelligence if this becomes fashionable football can go to a different direction okay parterona have donated in the past at club level spain has donated in the past at national level but uh it would be good that others tried physique great you take it for granted almost but if you add intelligence to your football this is what gets produced here inside the stadium they're assembling the stage on which Spain will be presented with the World Cup to the right of that stage the Argentine players are sitting individually on the floor heads bowed exhausted absolutely wrung out from the monumental effort to try and keep this Spain side who've been so impressive throughout the tournament at bay meanwhile the Spain players over to our left in front of that that pocket of Spain fans are wandering around congratulating each other hugging each other the conditions the tournament has taken it out of these players Laminya Mar lying on his back just looking up into the air with his hands on his head, taking in the hugeness of what Spain have achieved here.

8:51And Chris Sutton, right from the beginning, Spain have looked like the complete team in this tournament. Yeah, they have the football they've played. And, you know, you ally that with how defensively strong and organised that they have been. The goalkeeper is a cool customer. I see him in England were saying, well, you know, how's he playing in front of David Rea? But, you know, he's been exceptional. You think of Jan Kvarsi, the centre-half, who's been one of the players of the tournament, so mature, so composed. Rodri has probably been the best midfielder, and you can say Laminya Maul hasn't got going, worked hard today, put a shift in, but as Guillaume said, they are and have been the best team, and it is good for football and it's good they won today and as much as I admire Argentina for all their fight and guts and pausery it would have been a travesty really had they got over the line today and you have to play to the way that gives you the best chance of success and it's taken Argentina to a world cup final but they came up Paul against a team who've been so impressive all the way through and as the Spain players are singing and dancing to the familiar strains that you can hear in the background of Aviva España.

10:09They're all gathered in a circle, bouncing around and celebrating with each other. It's incredible how much energy you can have after you've won, when you've played the same game as a group of players who are now absolutely wrung out, Paul, at the end of this 120 minutes. Yeah, and it's not the first 120 minutes that Argentina have had either, is it? I mean, this is the third time this tournament that they've needed extra time. And this is one that they were trying to take right to the end, right to the bitter end. They've not made many friends through this tournament, the way that they've played, especially against England, as we recognise that first-hand, but against other teams, the way they've played, not necessarily played the beautiful game, as you call it, and other than the Argentinian following that they've got here, which is absolutely incredible.

10:54Not many other neutral supporters over the tournament. And I think Spain, as we keep repeating, are more than a well-deserved winner, not just on today, but for the whole tournament. You look at the way that they've played, and conceding one goal to win a World Cup final. It's an incredible achievement to go all the way through. And actually, when you look at Spain's run to the final, Portugal, Belgium and France, they've beaten three world-class teams there. They've had by far the hardest run to the final without a shadow of a doubt, and they've made light work. I mean, the Portugal game wasn't great, granted that did lack a bit of quality, but they've beaten Belgium and France on the way.

11:29So, I mean, not easy teams to get to a final. This is Ferran Torres addressing the crowd, but Mikel Moreno has got an ice pack on his eye. Paredes was a disgrace at the end. There was a push on... ..who was it, Garcia, and then he threw a punch. And Moreno has got a black eye. I think the punch was on Garcia, though. Was it? I think Moreno, because that was in the Messi shot, wasn't it? Under the left foot shot which he thundered. But Paredes, yeah, I mean, had they been as accurate with their shooting, Argentina, as Paredes was with their punching, they may have won the game. Coffee in the morning, coffee in the evening, sings Bad Bunny, and I think there'll be a coffee in the morning, rum in the evening, and I think there'll be a lot of celebrating with the rum this evening after Spain have managed to get the World Cup, to win the World Cup again for the first time since 2010.

12:26There are various presentations going on on the pitch, And as you said, there was all that kerfuffle at the end. It was difficult for us to see from our position. But having looked back at the pictures and having seen what Alan Shearer has said about that in his commentary for BBC One, he says, Paradas threw two or three haymakers into someone's face, went for them. We know how much it means, we know how much it hurts to lose, but there is a way to lose. And the reaction after the final whistle is terrible. However, what Spain have produced has been incredible. we're watching laminya we saw him lying down the crowd the cameras are focusing on him he hasn't had the greatest of tournaments he came into injured he's 19 years old turned 19 across the course of the tournament but it feels like it's more appropriate for this spain team that actually the the key performances have been from players like rodri who's back to his ballon d 'or winning best and like alex bayena who's been so impressive and whose work is exceptional Cucurea, who's a player who probably has the most Argentinian style in him, which was very interesting when he came up against Simeone in this one particularly.

13:34It feels like it's more appropriate that they're the players who put in the key performances. All that is right, but I would have liked a little bit more of Lamine and Ferran not to miss a call of chances that he had. And by the way, I don't know how you describe it, but Nico Williams' goal should have been given. I don't think the referee get a foul, but then we scored and then they did. So I think he blew his whistle at the point where he thought the foul was made. It wasn't much of a foul but having blown his whistle and ended the game they can't then get VAR to look at something that is just a foul rather than a denial of a goal.

14:11I was next to some Argentinians who were saying you will say something about the referee now because they thought, they really honestly thought that Spain would have been benefited by the referee and I told them about that goal but okay, I won't mention the details of it. I think I'm right on that, but we'll get one of our refereeing experts to double-check because that's not what I asked. In any case, I don't think the referee had any influence whatsoever because we didn't allow it to happen. We passed the ball with fluidity. It's just that, yes, a little bit of Lamine, a sharp of a run. We could have finished this earlier.

14:46But you're right. This, I don't know who the man of the tournament is going to be. I would give it to Rodri. he was absolutely outstanding he's not only the guy that's run the longest in the whole tournament and an average per game the amount of passes that he gave to beat defenders he's at his sharpest he's at the Ballon d 'Or level and is the reference of the team in fact this is this is Rodri's team absolutely Pedri has suffered that Peter Pedri has had to come out of it because Rodri is in charge of this team

15:47We'll be right back. On 5 Live Sport. Oh, I've lived every ball of this. Listen on BBC Sounds.

15:59At the People World Cup 2026. The Football Daily Podcasts. With Kelly Cates. Listen on BBC Sounds. The negative noise that you can hear is because the US President Donald Trump is coming out alongside Gianni Infantino. It doesn't seem like they're the most popular people inside this stadium, but they're coming out to present the trophy. Donald Trump, the president, has just made his way out and I've got to say that was an adverse reaction at best for when he's greeted by a whole host of security guards, Gianni Infantino as well, you can see him with the white pumps making their way onto the podium that has been erected in gold and navy blue with a giant World Cup behind them as well.

16:46So the presentations are underway. He's walking very, very slowly. is Donald J. Trump. And that guard of Spain players, John Murray, has formed once again.

16:57Ian Dennis:Yes, so we will see all of those various prizes being handed out, but it's difficult not to take your eyes off the President of the United States. So the players are at one end of the pitch, to our left, Donald Trump and the presentation party, and Gianni Infantino actually arrived through one of the tunnels on the right-hand side of the stadium. and also the Mexican president, Claudia Scheinbaum, is there in a bottle green outfit, the colour of Mexico, and the Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Carney, as well, is part of that line. They're all ready now on the stage. ...commemorative medals to the match officials for today's FIFA World Cup 2026 final.

17:41Ian Dennis:And as you hear Slavko, Vincic, such a proud moment. If you saw the pictures when it was announced, the information was given to him that he would be refereeing the World Cup final, and how openly, emotional he was. Well, he walks up the steps and we now see the order of the handing of the medals, and it is Gianni and Fantino who will first greet the players, and it is Donald Trump who will put those medals around their necks. In fact, they're both doing it, Gianni Infantino and Donald Trump, to the various officials who are involved in this. So that looks... We now know the order. And then in the end, it will be Donald Trump who will walk across them.

18:22Ian Dennis:The World Cup is there, the trophy is there on a podium, which has flashing lights on it. And it was placed there by Sergio Ramos. And eventually that trophy will be handed to Rodri. But we'll see all of the Argentina players come up first and, as I say, the various awards, Kelly. and we're just watching as the procession is organized as Argentina are set to come through and Tim Vickery is still with us. Tim, these Argentina players are going to be so stunned by this defeat but there are many of them within that squad who are kind of coming to the end of their careers, their international careers.

18:59Yes, it's a relatively aging side, isn't it? and I think I'm sure that this will influence the decision of Lionel Messi to see, alright, Argentina had a day less rest and that was a factor, but they were very much second best, weren't they? Very, very much second best. I didn't record a shot of any kind until right at the end and I would now be, on the basis of what we've seen today, I would be very, very surprised if we still see him in four years. It's possible he could get a spark between now and then but you'd imagine it'll be time for Argentina to build a new side. And there are young players still within that squad who they will be able to build it around.

19:45There will be a natural kind of rebuilding of this Argentina squad. Yes, Scaloni has been planning for this. He's been looking well, well beyond this World Cup. So there are players like Nico Paz, who it's hard for Nico Paz, an attacking midfielder, had a wonderful season with Colmo in Italy. It's hard for him to play alongside Messi. That's why he's hardly got on the field this time around. But he's going to be an important player for Argentina's future. And there's a few that he's brought into the squad and had a look at and didn't bring to this World Cup. But they're already involved in the process.

20:23and whether Scaloni stays on because it's been eight years now in a very, very tiring job and they all must be exhausted now I think Argentina so it'll be a new era for them but for these last five years two Copa Americas a World Cup in the middle another World Cup final here's a team as Messi said on the eve of the game he said whatever happens this group of players have written a story that we will never forget John Murray tricky to work out exactly what's going on and when it's happening at the moment inside this stadium but the individual wards are currently being presented.

21:01Ian Dennis:Yeah, an air of disorganisation about it Koubasi, Pau Koubasi was announced as the young player, he rather bashfully stepped forward, then he was sent to actually walk through the avenue of his teammates who patted him on the head as he did so then he walked along the line, Infantino Trump et al and then he was presented with the the Young Player Award, and now Unai Simon is doing the same thing. And he has got the Golden Glove, and he walks onto the stage, and that is captured for posterity. He's framed by... Because they've also erected a 10-metre-tall image of the World Cup in the centre circle.

21:42Ian Dennis:So Unai Simon, and as we know, It is the Spanish captain who's announced as the player of the tournament and he walks up with a very satisfied smile on his face to receive his trophy and actually Claudia Scheinbaum is presenting him with that trophy. So these are the individual trophies and they'll announce as well that Kylian Mbappe has won the golden boot before we actually get the full presentation of the trophy. But Guillaume, you were saying this is a well-deserved presentation to Rodri, a well-deserved award for Rodri in a real team that Spain have managed to create. He has been a standout player, if not a sparkling player, if not a player of highlights and moments, but so important to what Spain do.

22:37and there was a point for him at which it felt as though maybe his career had gone because of injury and because it felt like he maybe wasn't going to be able to come back from that to the heights and now he's there receiving an individual award as a World Cup winner. Totally, totally. He's been talking openly about how last season having recovered from the injury he wasn't sure if he was going to get to the level that he was before and had a conversation with Pep Guardiola many conversations but one in particular in which he said Pep let me stop I need to just take stock of what's happened get my body in the right shape this is a world cup and the world cup became the priority and then having come back from from I think it was like a month and a half almost two months off what you got was a Rodri that was sharp got injured for the last couple of weeks before the end of the season but now he's at his best again and now led by Lionel Messi Argentina make their way up through that Spain guard of honour to collect their runners-up medals and this you would feel Chris Sutton has to sting for those Argentina players who while they may take criticism for how they've approached this World Cup have given everything.

23:52Yeah they have and there's a lot to be admired about the effort they've put in, the guts, the desire that they have shown, they never know when they're beaten, they were beaten by a better team today, this one is going to sting, but as I said earlier on in the tournament, I think this is a pretty average Argentina size to ones we've seen previous to this, of course, over the holders last time out, but no, that'll feel a real sore one for them today, a real sickener, and you can just tell the players getting their runners-up medals and the body language, shoulders slumped. Yeah, that'll be a day to forget, but I think they can be proud of the effort and the endeavour they put in throughout the tournament.

24:37I think Messi was thinking of taking his medal out and putting it back on, almost as if saying defeat is part of the sport. It does happen. You don't have to just be bitter about it, just accept it and move on. He has had in his career a lot of defeats and he comes from winning four consecutive tournaments So it's the sign of a captain that perhaps accepts the feats. And Lionel Messi in tears on the pitch as he's left the podium now, as in standing in front of, there are Argentina fans right round this stadium, but over to the right-hand side is where the huge bank of them are concentrated and they are waving their scarves and they are singing to these players players and Messi is in floods of tears in front of them possibly because he knows this will be his last World Cup appearance for Argentina there is a possibility that he might push himself for four years time where they will have a game in Argentina when that that tournament is played across three continents but Messi inconsolable at the moment Tim Vickery thoughts on on what he's given to Argentina and what he means to the Argentina fans of course but also to the rest of the Argentina squad Well it all could have ended here in this very stadium ten years ago when he very briefly retired from international football, how wonderful that it didn't and that he achieved everything that he had with Barcelona late in his career he managed to achieve that with the Argentina national team as well he becomes the key reference for the future generation of players.

26:20If this is the last time that the World Cup sees him, it's not the last time he's mentioned in the context of World Cups, because future generations will be trying to emulate what he did. So if this is the last time that we've seen him, he's played a wonderful tournament at the age of 38 going into 39. He's left us with some stunning memories, and you can't win all the time. And defeat is a part of victory. That's always the way that it's been and at least they weren't humiliated today they fought to the end Messi almost conjured them one or two opportunities right at the end it wasn't to be the right side has won and as some of those Argentina backroom staff are nudged out the way by the the crew who are unfurling an enormous Spain flag across the pitch here at the MetLife Arena Spain John Murray are making their way up to receive their winners medals and lift the trophy yes under blue skies with the sun still

27:16Ian Dennis:still shining on this enormous stadium, 80 ,000 people, most of whom have stayed, indeed the Argentina fans as well. The Spanish players have started receiving their medals, but the Argentina players have moved away, and that clearly was a painful moment, the World Cup winners in Qatar four years ago, they had to, led by Lionel Messi, they had to walk past the trophy they lifted four years ago, and they've actually gone away to the end where the Argentina fans are, so they walk towards their dressing room which is in the far right corner and they have stayed on the pitch and they are staring into the stands where the mass ranked of the argentina fans are and they are by the hundred possibly by the thousand the argentina fans waving shirts above their heads and argentina's players actually looking at them and with their backs to where the the Spanish players are receiving their medals, but the eyes fall back now to the line of Spanish players, the 26, with Luis de la Fuente as well, waiting at the back of that line.

28:22Ian Dennis:I mean, it is an extraordinary run that he has had as the coach of Spain. This is now 15 matches for de la Fuente, at either a European Championship or a World Cup Finals tournament, in which they are unbeaten, a record for a coach. And he is waiting at the back of the line with Rodri, who's got someone to hold the award that he's already received as the player of the tournament. And we see the players coming up the gold and blue steps of this podium. It is across the halfway line, there is that 10-metre tall image of the World Cup standing behind the stage, beyond that there is the flag of Spain, another one of those flags that you've seen before the matches, so that is out there on its own.

29:17Ian Dennis:And we see the Spanish players, the next one up is Hoyas Arbal, who has finished as Spain's top scorer at this World Cup with his five goals, was substituted today. Then it's the teenager, one of the two 19-year-olds, Pao Kubasi, who is next up in line, just two or three more players to receive their medals before we will have the presentation of the trophy. Unai Simon, then Marc Cucurea on his way from London to Madrid after this World Cup to join Real Madrid. He is up there, Gianni Infantino has a big smile on his face as he lifts the medal on the ribbon over all of that hair of his and places it round his neck.

30:05Ian Dennis:And then Victor Munoz, who is Liverpool bound this summer, and then Borja Iglesias as well, the number 26. So that is all of the players apart from the coach, Luis de la Fuente, this 65-year-old, he loves his history, he loves his Roman history. He's absolutely steeped in it while he's making history of his own. With no distinguished club record to speak of at all, that international football at the various age groups, and now at senior level, is absolutely his thing. And President Trump has plenty of words to say to the coach. He has to say on this warm afternoon, now evening here, he has looked very cool, Luis De La Fuente.

30:55Ian Dennis:and now it's Rodri who comes forward, Rodri, captain of Spain at this World Cup, Spain the first country to win the World Cup for a second time in this century, and Rodri now, Donald Trump allows him to walk past and we'll see, I'm assuming that Donald Trump will actually step forward and put the trophy in his hands, so the rest of his team-mates are gathered around. Luis de la Fuente now joins them there, and he reaches the end of the line, and actually Rodri goes and gives it a big kiss, and then walks away, and Gianni Infantino says to Donald Trump, come on, Mr President, step forward. And they are actually the two of them, Gianni Infantino, rather like the Club World Cup final last year when Chelsea won it, they are actually going to take the trophy between them, Gianni Infantino and President Trump, and they are going to hand it now to Rodri.

31:47Ian Dennis:And there it is, in Rodri's hands, The European champions of two years ago have won the World Cup now, just like Spain did in 2010. Then Spain triumphed in South Africa. As Donald Trump walks across in front of them, pumping his fist, we've seen that before, and now Rodri turns, and he holds the World Cup trophy, he kisses it again, and Spain have done it in North America. World champions. and what good world champions they have been. They've conceded one goal in eight matches. A dominant team led by Rodri of Manchester City. And the golden glitter is pumped out by the machines behind the stage.

32:34Ian Dennis:And the Spanish players, Rodri with the World Cup trophy in his hands, they bounce up and down and then begin the process of handing it around. What fine winners of the World Cup. Spain have beat, and Argentina and Lionel Messi, they applaud and now begin to head away, and Spain can really begin their celebrations in earnest here in the sunshine in New Jersey. And it all came down to a winning goal from Ferran Torres. Here's how it sounded on Spain's Radio Nacional.

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33:18Monico de cabeza, ahí está! Gol! Gol de Ferran! Gol de Ferran! Gol de Ferran! Gol de Ferran! Gol de Ferran! Gol!

33:35Ian Dennis:Gol de Ferran! Gol de Ferran! Gol de Valor! And that was the goal that won the World Cup for Spain for the first time since 2010. and the players still down on the podium, still celebrating and now the backroom staff are down there. They're being joined by a cast of dozens as they all celebrate together and that stage that they've assembled in the middle of the pitch is covered in gold glitter and it is gleaming in the lake sunlight here in New Jersey. The air is sparkling with gold glitter for the world champions. Guillem Balaguet listening to the commentary, watching that moment. How is it for you?

34:17You know, we won it twice in my lifetime. It's just an incredible feeling of having reached the climax of the sport we dedicate our life to. You have to say it like that. Everything we do is around weekends and games and meeting people and taking some of these people that you see on the stand there for dinner. or having chats late at night in Chattanooga about what was supposed to happen, especially at the Cava Verde. And some of them have been, all of them, I would say, so open fireworks are coming out now. We should say that because we're in America, that these are fireworks that we can hear going off around the building.

34:57But you're right, there have been so many moments and a lot of them come down in this World Cup, not necessarily to what has happened on the pitch, but to those moments that are shared between people who have that same love of what they're seeing in front of them. Yeah, it's quite clear that they have to shield themselves because there's a bunch of us, there's twice the amount of people, journalists, that they were in Johannesburg and yet they've all had found a time to just join us for a quiet drink, some of the coaching staff, De La Fuente has a time to sit down with us and it's like, all right, ask whatever, off the record.

35:32So they've been this side that has been more open of the whole tournament. We had an interview every single day. We had a press conference every single day. And on top of that, we sat with some of them to just go back to Cabo Verde and the fact that the football wasn't very fluid. How Pedri came off the line-up. How Olmo came on and made a difference. How instead of Marcos Llorente, Porro was chosen. How well or bad Lamin was and how hard it was getting for him to be sharp. how difficult it was for Nico against Uruguay to get injured again, but he thought it was going to be important. And he had been two years ago, but he had a good spell at the end of this game.

36:12How Rodri seemed a little bit heavy in the first game, but they were telling us, don't worry, don't worry. As soon as, basically, they told us that the group stage is going to be used now in World Cups for signs like Spain, or the big sides, to get the team sharp. so decisions will be taken just the team gets ready for the knockout stages and that's exactly what happened he's like do you know when people talk about pep guardiola telling the players what's about to happen they walk into the pitch and that's exactly what happened uh they take the motion points out that when you have players as good as the ones that he's had at the clubs where he's been they will not be unpredictable players they will do exactly what you demand of them and then the game plan will work out but when you have the right players that's exactly what happened Yeah, exactly.

36:56Yeah, but what I was trying to say is that Feb reads the game so well that tells the players what's about to happen, so when it happens, they're not surprised. I feel the same with this national side. I don't want to call it... It's not predictable. It's just the fact that we knew we were going to control every game, which we have. We were superior to every team. In fact, I mean, we won every single game of the Euros and the World Cup, apart from the Cabo Verde draw. Every single game has been a victory. It's a winning machine. and because I belong to another generation I don't recognize these guys who are these guys they're from Mars but they just seem to be able to win in different ways too but yeah I am old

37:35Ian Dennis:enough just like you Guillaume to remember a time when that very much was not the case and there was a point wasn't there where you did think well a bit like we've been saying with England are they ever going to do it and we've been wondering how we went from one side to the other if you like and there is a psychological blockage of quarterfinals. In 2008, we beat Italy in the quarterfinals, the penalty of Cesc, in the penalty shootout. And all of a sudden, there was a release and there was a confidence and there was comfort that the idea was good, the idea was successful. So it was just a continuation of the idea and the process and the people in charge, even though Luis Aragonés left, but Vicente del Bosque continued with the same idea.

38:17And then after Vicente del Bosque, in Brazil, for instance, it was like, look, we won everything, so let them, they're not ready, but let them just fail, which is what we did. And after that, we haven't got it right, but we've gone back to our idea. Once you, whatever idea it is that you grab with your bold hands, England, just grab it and go for it, because eventually, eventually, are you not that far,

38:40Ian Dennis:it will give you success. Guillaume, as well, speaking a little bit more widely, because, you know, there's been recent history, hasn't there, between the United States and Spain. Will there be some amusement? back home at the sight of Donald Trump presenting Spain with the World Cup. It's just that Donald Trump seems to have the memory of a fish. He had a go at us, but he's forgotten. He's very happy sharing time with our players. But yes, yes, there's a little bit of amusement about that for sure. Guillaume, I know you can't go back to your mums to celebrate, but there is a lot of celebrating to do this evening.

39:15So thank you so much for spending the time with us and sharing this extraordinary moment, this World Cup winning moment with us. Thank you, Guillaume. I'll send you the address of the party if you want to join me later. Always. And thank you very much to Tim Vickery as well for your company across the whole of this tournament, Tim. It's been a pleasure as always. John Murray, final thoughts on this extraordinarily long and at times strange tournament that's had all kinds of moments that we haven't seen before from the huge emphasis on the celebrities, from the halftime show, from the big build-up to the closing ceremony, to the whole razzle-dazzle of the whole thing.

39:59And yet it all boiled down to one great team.

40:03Ian Dennis:Yeah, it did, and that is the thing. And you're absolutely right. Whether it's the countdowns, whether it's the third-place teams going through, the head-to-head deciders, remember how we talked about that, and everything that happened as well, all of the political stuff beforehand, the visa issues, everything with Iran. I mean, looking back now, don't you think, particularly with the news of this weekend, isn't it extraordinary we had a World Cup where Iran came here and played at the time that they are at war with the United States? So there was that. You know, we had the promise that it would be the biggest.

40:40Ian Dennis:They keep calling it the best World Cup. I'm not sure about that. I'm with Ian on that. We've had this discussion, haven't we, Ian, about whether this has been the best World Cup or not, but it's certainly been the biggest. They promised Super Bowl occasions, 104 Super Bowls, they did their best to try and do that, and, you know, there was so much else wrapped up in this. But some of the matches have been amazing, and the drama, the turnarounds, there have been very, very few disappointing letdown matches, and some of them have come during the knockout stages, but they have had the tension to them.

41:15Ian Dennis:And, you know, for Scotland, they've really left their mark on this World Cup, if not in terms of the results here. But we know that. We went up to Boston and we found how everyone had absolutely loved them being there. And for England, what a story that was. Not the story that England supporters wanted, but they went out with that... I don't know how to describe that match last night, but they went out with it. And here we are, Spain have won it, and it's great. with the individuals, the celebrities, the razzmatazz. It's a proper football team that's won this World Cup. John Murray, Ian Dennis, Paul Robinson, Chris Sutton, thank you very much for your company at the MetLife Arena for this World Cup Final 2026.

41:57And that is it. After 104 games, the biggest World Cup, the longest World Cup has come to an end, from the Azteca to Texas to Toronto. Thank you so much for being here with us on Five Live for the last six weeks. Thank you especially to our team here in New Jersey tonight. All our commentators, our producers, our engineers who've got us on air from various parts of the USA, Mexico, Canada, to our teams back at Salford who've helped to make sure that you can hear voices from right across the world and bring you more than 400 hours of World Cup coverage from across this continent and every continent.

42:38If you thought this one was big, the next one is across three continents. We'll be building up to that one shortly. But that is it from us. Start spreading the news. Spain have won the World Cup. Good night.

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Relive the atmosphere and instant reaction from 5 Live at full-time as Spain overcome a dogged 10-man Argentina to win the 2026 World Cup. Ferran Torres scored the decisive goal in extra time. Kelly Cates is joined by John Murray, Ian Dennis, Chris Sutton and Paul Robinson in New Jersey as Spain's captain Rodri lifts the famous trophy. Guillem Balague gives his reaction to the win for Spain and South American football expert Tim Vickery has his say on a tight, cagey encounter.

TIMECODES: 00:10 - Spain's magic moment 01:20 - Chris Sutton: 'The best team won' 03:10 - Guillem Balague's instant reaction 13:10 - Should Nico Williams' goal been given? 15:25 - Donald Trump arrives onto the pitch 18:05 - Thoughts from Tim Vickery 26:30 - The presentations begin 31:20 - Rodri lifts the World Cup trophy

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