In short
The Football Weekly live show discusses a busy Premier League weekend plus European draws and listener questions. Key topics: Manchester United’s 5-2 win over Ipswich, with debate over Harry Maguire’s handball that led to an own goal; Chelsea’s 4-3 thriller vs Brighton, praised for Xavi Alonso’s attacking wing-back setup and Cole Palmer’s finishing; Tottenham’s 0-0 loss to Newcastle, focusing on Spurs’ lack of goals/combinations and Tonali’s midfield struggles; Liverpool drawing 2-2 with Nottingham Forest, with concern about midfield/full-back balance and Forest’s counter-attacking control; Manchester City beating Crystal Palace 4-1, highlighted by Rayan Cherki’s first-ever brace and Haaland’s goals; Hull’s strong start after beating Coventry, emphasizing compact defending and counter-attacks; Bournemouth vs Everton ending 1-1, with Evan Eilsen’s goal and Petrovic’s saves; Sunderland beating Brentford? (Sunderland 1-0 mentioned) and Leeds drawing Brentford 1-1, featuring Shard’s brilliant goal and a contentious foul/penalty call.
Guests/panel
Barry Glendening (The Guardian/football writer), Nicky Mandini (The Guardian), Mark Langdon (Racing Post).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOManchester United vs Ipswich Overview
0:54 to 3:25
Discussion on the Manchester United vs Ipswich game, analyzing key moments.
“On the panel today, Barry Glendening, welcome.”
Analyzing Key Goals and Decisions
3:25 to 5:50
Delving into the controversial goals and handball incidents during the match.
“Like by shooting off target, he's rewarded.”
Bruno Fernandes and Player Performances
5:50 to 10:46
Exploring Bruno Fernandes' performance and other players' impacts in the match.
“Adam says, absolutely salivating over the handball discourse on tomorrow's football week.”
Chelsea's Exciting Match Against Brighton
10:46 to 14:00
Reviewing the thrilling Chelsea vs Brighton match and tactical aspects.
“Nicky, Chelsea have scored 7 and let in 5 in their opening two games.”
Chelsea's Promising Start and Defensive Concerns
14:00 to 17:32
Discussing Chelsea's attacking performance while addressing their defensive weaknesses.
“Arsenal coming up, you can't play necessarily the same way against them.”
Tottenham's Struggles and Managerial Questions
17:32 to 19:58
Analyzing Tottenham's start to the season and the implications of their recent performances.
“Like, what have we done with all this money?”
Newcastle's Midfield Dynamics and Player Performance
19:58 to 22:22
Examining Newcastle's midfield and the impact of new signings on their performance.
“defence is looking shaky the midfield's not working but apart from that there's big hope yeah so I don't think you can panic yet Didn't Tottenham win their first two games last season including beating Man City.”
Game of Thrones and Managerial Comparisons
22:22 to 25:10
A light-hearted discussion linking a football manager's appearance to Game of Thrones characters.
“And Tottenham have bought too many players like Matisse Tell over the last five years where there's something there, but it's just not quite enough.”
Liverpool's Defensive Struggles
28:00 to 29:09
Discussion on Liverpool's defensive issues and midfield struggles.
“But I just think they're asking too much of the defence, you know, too often, really.”
Alexander Isak's Form and Service Issues
29:10 to 30:24
Analyzing Alexander Isak's performance and service at Liverpool.
“Yeah, it's interesting with Izak as well, Nicky, isn't it?”
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Substitutions and Game Management
30:25 to 32:34
Discussion on the complexities of substitutions during games.
“It felt like Schlager and McAtee had far the better of those exchanges with Schrappeslein and McAllister.”
Man City vs. Palace Analysis
32:35 to 35:19
Analyzing Manchester City's performance against Crystal Palace.
“had two boards on the floor and was pressing with the buttons.”
Palace Fans' Discontent and Team Performance
35:20 to 37:45
Exploring the discontent among Palace fans and their team's performance.
“And yeah, it was again, talking about Alonso earlier on, to get that combination play going so early, I think will have pleased Maresca.”
Hull's Impressive Start to the Season
37:46 to 40:09
Discussion on Hull's strong start in the Premier League.
“where there's a really good atmosphere and if they lose that as well as a load of their best players, it could be a bad season for them.”
McBurney's Impact and Team Identity
40:10 to 42:00
Analyzing McBurney's role and Hull's identity in the Premier League.
“They haven't conceded a goal in their first two games back in the Premier League.”
Discussing Premier League Relegation Statistics
42:00 to 42:17
Learn about historical relegation patterns in the Premier League.
“There aren't enough players like McBurney in the Premier League anymore.”
Bournemouth vs. Everton Match Highlights
42:26 to 43:14
Analyzing the key moments and performances in the Bournemouth vs. Everton match.
“I think a draw was probably a fair result in the end.”
Everton's Off-Pitch Drama
43:14 to 45:01
Exploring the controversy surrounding Everton's transfer dealings and fan reactions.
“although I would give him the benefit in doubt and say it was more brilliant saves that denied him than his own shortcomings as a finisher, but he should have scored.”
Transfer Market Trends and Academy Players
45:01 to 47:24
Discussion on the dynamics of the football transfer market, especially regarding academy players.
“I think he's about an eight at the moment.”
Sunderland's Performance and Europa League Draw
47:24 to 50:06
Reviewing Sunderland's recent results and their upcoming Europa League matches.
“Big win for Sunderland because there's some tough fixtures coming up.”
Arsenal's Transfer Strategy Concerns
50:06 to 52:16
Analyzing Arsenal's transfer approach and its implications for the team's performance.
“So I had to Google one of the teams that are playing, Torinth, who are a Portuguese second division side.”
Mailbag Segment: A Wedding Tale
52:16 to 55:50
A humorous discussion about a listener's wedding dilemma involving testicular torsion.
“And I'll be interested to see if something does get done before the end of the transfer window.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Nicky Bandini:This is The Guardian.
0:30Nicky Bandini:goals, no points, beating 2-0 by Newcastle. Is it too early to panic? Liverpool snatch a point at home to Forest while Manchester City hammer Palace at Selhurst Park. Three sides on six points so far then Chelsea, City and Hull City dare to dream after a 1-0 win at Coventry. There's some heroic defending and brilliant goalkeeping as Everton get a late point at Bournemouth. Sunderland get off the mark and Leeds are lucky to get a point at home to Brentford. We've got the European draws, your questions and that's today's Guardian Football Weekly.
0:58Nicky Bandini:On the panel today, Barry Glendening, welcome. Hi Max. Good morning Nicky Mandini. Morning. And from the Racing Post, Mark Langdon. Hey Mark. Hi Max. Alright, let's start then at Old Trafford Manchester United 5, Ipswich. Wow, is it 5-2? I switched off in the 90th minute. There we go.
1:18Nicky Bandini:It's like he Joel updates this script, isn't it? Someone must tell me about Chuba Agpom's goal. It could be the goal of the season. I've absolutely no idea. I guess, Barry, there's a moment in this game where Ipswich could feel pretty unlucky you know they're ahead they're playing well equaliser only happens because their player falls over United second will obviously get to but by the end Manchester United grew into this game and were brilliant for the last half an hour until of
1:43Max Rushden:course Chubarak POM yeah it wasn't a goal of the season but okay and I think on the face of it if you hadn't seen the game and you just saw the score you'd assume it was a pasting for Ipswich at Old Trafford. But the scoreline doesn't really tell the story of the game because I thought Ipswich were very lucky not to be further ahead by the time Bruno Fernandes scored United's first goal. Lamans made a good save from NC, so Maeda forced a save from Lamans as well. Then Leif Davis scored that wonderful goal to put Ipswich ahead. a real sumptuous finish after Fatou had not made Luke show out by the byline and got in around him to deliver the ball into the area.
2:31Max Rushden:And then I think they had another, Leif Davis had another chance that was tipped over the bar by Lammond. So United had a lot to be grateful for, for their keeper. And then a slip from Marcelo Nunes or Marcelino Nunes allowed United to score their first. It was a really good finish from Bruno, but Kuna took advantage of that slip to play him in. Then United scored, well, it was Jacob Greaves' own goal from Harry Maguire. That shouldn't have stood because the Maguire handball in the build-up was not accidental. It was deliberate. If it had been accidental, the rules say the goal should stand. But it was very much a deliberate handball by Maguire.
3:13Max Rushden:So I think the officials got that wrong. and so Ipswich were in this game until very much in it until I suppose just at the hour mark and then it got away from them but I thought they played pretty well
3:27Nicky Bandini:Yeah I think so they were in it at the hour mark but then sort of Nicky after the hour mark they really weren't in it Yes it's one of those games where it feels like hard to pick apart what's real and what's just things that happened because as Maz has just outlined the goals all of United's first three goals they got some help with right like the the first one is is the new year slip and I mean that can happen right footballers fall over it's part of the game it's not like that's cheating or something it's just a thing that happens but it is still one of those incidents that feels a bit outside the the flow of the game perhaps well so United took it really well and I think this is one of the things that I don't want to get away from I think Bruno Fernandes I'm certain will talk about sensational player but the thing is that that was that was already true about Manchester United and we're trying to work out what's new about Manchester United so so I think that bit while it's certainly true kind of maybe is is not like the the heart of the question of Oris um but so that first goal feels incidental and as Baz says that the Maguire goal I mean listen maybe maybe there's a discussion to be had about whether or not that's an accidental handball um I know uh Shea Given on Match of the Day was agreeing with Baz I've been listening to a few different ex-pros talking about that because I think that's that line of accidental and deliberate it's almost more interesting to hear from from players and what they think about it because they have a different perspective on it and and funnily enough one of the takes I thought was I don't know felt most right to me on that Maguire goal or not his goal but the own goal um Shaka Hislop was saying this um what that was effectively done is reward Harry Maguire for doing his job badly.
5:07Like by shooting off target, he's rewarded. And that just shouldn't be how the rule is, whichever way it is. Now that is the rule, if it's accidental. So on that side, we're not here to say, oh, but it did feel like a game where there was just such a swing based on those moments. But it's hard to completely like have an even view on it almost. I mean, United did some things very, very well, chiefly Bruno Fernandes, but some other stuff too. Upswich did some stuff really, really well. I think Fatahou's move past Shaw to set up their opening goal is so good. And then the finish by Leif Davis as well.
5:46So it was a really fun game, and I don't know what conclusions I'm drawing from it.
5:50Nicky Bandini:Absolutely fine. Adam says, absolutely salivating over the handball discourse on tomorrow's football week. I bet Max Rushton is made up. Tom, can Max please run through Maguire handball decision in great detail? the thing is mark right as nicky says like he's rewarded for hitting a hopeless shot but i don't i agree i hate humble i hate the humble being dependent on what happens afterwards you know i hate a law which is not the decision is not on what happens then the funny thing is i don't think that should goal should be given but then if that was if harry mcgill was in his own box and the ball sort of his hand i wouldn't want a penalty because i'm so averse to that so then i am saying it's dependent on what happens so now i hate myself so i i don't know if you can i don't even give me any clarity i think the the phrase accidental and deliberate um is the wrong one to use um in sort of 99 of the time because more often than not like a player is not deliberately trying to to handball the ball there will be you know the odd occasion but um on this one like i don't think McGuire is trying to handle that sort of block.
6:56I don't know if his arms in natural position or not. It's quite difficult, isn't it, to understand where your arms should be. If we're saying that then being out of your body width is unnatural, then being inside your body width has to be natural. Otherwise, you can't put them anywhere. The referee didn't give handball on the pitch for deliberate handball. I'm sort of comfortable enough that the laws are then put in place for the rest to happen and it to be given as a goal. And, you know, people wanted a softer touch on VAR. And I think maybe last season or the season before, maybe that would have been pulled up for a deliberate handball.
7:39And I think there would have been other people saying, well, it's clearly not deliberate. Where do you want him to put his arms, etc.? And we might get to the Kevin Sharder one a bit later on. I think that would have been given as well in the Brentford V Leagues game because it was a foul, but it wasn't necessarily enough of a foul.
7:58Nicky Bandini:Yeah, I mean, that's a penalty for me on Sharder. But I just think that there is this kind of softer touch. I think the law's an ass anyway. But if you remember, if you go back a couple of years, I think it was during COVID time, Sheffield United and Tottenham played a game where Lucas Moura was deemed to have benefited from a handball situation, which he blocked with his back and scored. And people said, well, that was clearly accidental. You know, you can't have that leading to a goal. And so I just think whatever the kind of outcome is, there will always be an argument against it. So like the referee allowed it to continue on the field of play.
8:40So I'm sort of happier than I think I would have been if they would have got involved in that situation.
8:46Nicky Bandini:Yeah, I wonder how many listeners are instantly recalling that Tottenham Sheffield United game from COVID during the COVID years. It was quite a famous one. It was quite a famous... I mean, COVID is a strange old time to try to remember anything from there. But it's a pretty, I would say, as a Spurs fan, it was a fairly annoying goal. I seem to remember me and Jamie could only get chicken thigh fillets for Christmas dinner because, you know, that was my... They were worse. If I'm recording things from COVID, yeah, it was the first that other people suffered more in COVID. I take it, Mark. Baz, what do you make of Kobe Mainu?
9:23Nicky Bandini:So much talks about the midfield of Manchester United and, you know, new players coming in and would he be the guy that missed out. But I was impressed with him.
9:29Max Rushden:Yeah, I thought he had a good game. There's speculation over his future, there's speculation over Marcus Rashford's future. I thought they both played well. Rashford probably had a better game or a more obviously better game to me anyway because he's in a more attacking position but Maynard did nothing wrong I think Maynard is a good player and he constantly seems to struggle to you know he didn't get a look in for England at the World Cup and there was talk that he'd fallen out with Thomas Tuchel I don't know if that's true or not but he did seem to be fed up that he wasn't getting any game time.
10:07Max Rushden:He clearly didn't have a fan in Ruben Amorim who pretty much ostracized him. And then Michael Carrick, he played really well for him when he came in second half of last season. But now there's speculation over his future again. But I think any time he actually gets to play, he does well. and makes a good case for himself. So I don't know if there's some sort of off-field issue that might be a problem, but certainly as far as his footballing ability is concerned, he looks okay to me.
10:45Nicky Bandini:Yeah, let's go to Stamford Bridge. Chelsea 4, Brighton 3. Nicky, Chelsea have scored 7 and let in 5 in their opening two games. The new entertainers. If it's another really entertaining game, I'll be honest, when you are watching a lot of football over a weekend like your focus it comes and goes right and at the start of this game Chelsea came out of the block so fast there was a point where I was like I think I was yeah you're multitasking but you're kind of like okay well I know what that's happening in that game that game's done we know it's going to be a a thumping win and then suddenly you find yourself all the way back in because this game has gone completely the other way and it was just it's such an odd game even just to look at the numbers up and you see Brighton had 74 % possession I mean it makes sense because they were chasing the game to an extent.
11:30And I think it says something about the way they're playing this season. They had 74 % possession, but clearly they were never in control of the game because they were always chasing it. They were always behind. I think that this game in isolation, it felt like Shabby Alonso had done this wildly attacking choice to have the two wingbacks when in possession, just both of them fly every time, both of them just 100 miles an hour all the way forward. so the formation looked like a 3-2-5 honestly in possession um and Brighton were completely unprepared for it especially at the start I mean they fall behind right away but there were Chelsea could have scored like seven it felt like in this game they could have scored more than they did Charles Pedro certainly could have scored before he did um but that commitment to have Neto and Hato always so high up it wasn't like they eased off that after establishing the lead and Brighton worked out, well, actually, there's some pretty huge spaces in behind.
12:29And on top of that, the actual back three that stayed, the spaces weren't really very good. A lot of the time, they were seeming to not pick up players in between them very well. So it was a really uneven performance by both teams. And again, I suppose, like the last one, a really fun one to watch.
12:45Nicky Bandini:Yeah, and also, Mark, quite hard to analyse. I mean, at 3-2, Brighton had a number of chances. And in the same way, you're sort of thinking, Watching the first half hour, you're thinking, well, there's no way Brighton deserved to get anything from this game. But then actually, they really grew into it. And Chelsea will always look likely to score, but they always look likely to concede. It's sort of like good Ozzy Ardiles vibes. I was probably more impressed with Chelsea than the final score would suggest. Because I think the organisation and the discipline can come. I mean, Xavi Alonso's had two matches.
13:21I think it's a lot harder to coach a team to be fluid in attack than it is to work out the defence. And they look sensational in that final area of the pitch. Like Rodgers and Palmer have already kind of built up, not only an understanding with each other and Jal Pedro, but also the wing back on their side as well. There's a lot of good combination work. I would not expect that to be the case probably now. two games in particularly in a World Cup summer although maybe the fact that Palmer and João Pedro didn't go to the World Cup can benefit Chelsea certainly in this early part of the campaign Brighton are a very attack minded team and will just score a lot of goals I think against all sides but I think there was more to take here from more positives to take from Chelsea maybe than just the 4-3 overall of course they will need to tighten up defensively.
14:19Arsenal coming up, you can't play necessarily the same way against them. But this, I think, is a good way to get yourself winning a lot of points when you're at home to teams you're expected to beat, like go after them and score a lot of goals. And yeah, I like what I'm seeing from Chelsea. I think the defensive stuff will come. They've been linked with a few players as well, certainly midfield, that might just be able to balance it out. Camara maybe from Monaco, like Caicedo got injured in the game. But you imagine a fully fit Caicedo in there as well. Yeah, I think a really good start from Chelsea despite the goals conceded.
14:58And Barry, Emi Martinez cheered every time he did literally anything.
15:03Nicky Bandini:They were just like, wow, this is what a goalkeeper is.
15:06Max Rushden:Yeah, I feel a little bit sorry for Robert Sanchez because he got absolutely pilloried last week. It wasn't just on the back of the mistakes he made last week. It was just he continued where he left off. He makes a lot of errors. They've brought in Emery Martinez. I think he costs less than£7 or£8 million. It's an obvious upgrade. He will probably make mistakes too. He has a rick in him. But I think his presence means they've gone from having little or no chance of winning the Premier League to having a much better chance of winning the Premier League. I thought it was interesting as well that Robert Sanchez was drummed straight out of the squad.
15:47Max Rushden:Now, I don't know if that's because Xavi Alonso doesn't want him in the squad now that Martinez is here, or if perhaps he threw some sort of hissy fit at being so unceremoniously replaced less than 24 hours after Martinez had come in. Will he be sold? Who knows?
16:08Nicky Bandini:I did think someone who will be sad that Sanchez is no longer playing is Bart Verbruggen, because now he is the keeper who's constantly making ricks. And like for the first one, I mean, okay, I think it's the keeper. I'm not sure. He's sort of going for the ball at the same time. But yeah, I think he makes a lot of mistakes leading to goals, which seems like something you don't want your goalkeeper to do. And it's just Mickey worth mentioning that Cole Palmer finish. It's just when he's on and he's just so just unerringly brilliant, I think. I mean, there were some great goals in this one. And I think I also wanted to mention Yalcouye's goal for Brighton because that was definitely one of the goals of the weekend for me.
16:44So well taken. But yeah, Cole Palmer, again, I'm not trying to diminish yet. The defending is bad. Brighton's defenders are all spinning around the wrong way and not closing him down as he makes that run across the pitch. But he's so direct. He's so purposeful. And the finish is obviously brilliant. I was nodding along. I just completely agree with Mark that it's much harder to work out this bit, how to make your team this effective going forward than it is to then correct, adding a bit of balance and adding some structure, which can come with time. So I do think that exactly as Mark was saying, that the Palmer-Rogers axis being off to a fly like this is so encouraging.
17:23The fact that Xabi Alonso is going to have now always extra time from not being in Europe to work on the, again, the structure and getting a bit more balance. are we going to even mention the fact as well that i think it's still by the time people listen to this maybe things will be different but enzo fernandez hasn't gone right so there is still that possibility that some of that midfield issue might eventually be a reconciliation thing and he comes back in and could do something i mean equally by the time people listen to this it might be that he's gone but i just thought i'd say that because he hasn't left yet seems a perfect
17:55Nicky Bandini:time to discuss a team who haven't worked out how to do combinations up front or structure at the back tottenham nil newcastle to macy says a spurs a social experiment how long a human can endure pain and suffering i was going to do that thing where we should actually start with newcastle because they won but the story is tottenham because they have no points and they spent a lot of money mark you were there uh after the game deserve he said he wasn't angry and there's no need to panic are you angry and are you panicking so i would i would be on the deservey um side of things I'd say that my dad would probably be on the other side of it and was, you know, is he the right manager?
18:31Like, what have we done with all this money? I think in isolation, it's two matches. If you have a look back over last season, which I did yesterday for a bit of fun, and just looked at teams sort of, I was trying to just make myself feel better, I think. But if you just look in isolation at two matches for all teams, you can make good and bad cases. So, for instance, Wolves finished bottom of the Premier League at one stage last season, back-to-back. They beat Aston Villa and they beat Liverpool. There was a stage last season in the Premier League when Arsenal drew two games and they lost two matches.
19:02And it can just happen, but it's obviously heightened at the start of the season. I didn't think the first hour was that bad. But if anything, they were the better team without being brilliant. They were the better team. mitigating circumstances in the amount of players that have been, you know, if you look at Van der Ven didn't have a pre-season, a dog he's not had a pre-season, Fernandes hasn't had a pre-season, Poro hasn't. So like they don't look a hundred percent fit. And like even in the first half, they weren't pressing Newcastle. But of course, if you're a neutral, like it is funny to see a team win the transfer window and be sort of bottom and sort of, you know, have no goals.
19:42And actually by the last half an hour, the last half an hour was a bit that concerned me more really because there wasn't much in the way of a comeback really there was a long time to get back into it and so you're right Max no combinations defence is looking shaky the midfield's not working
20:01Nicky Bandini:but apart from that there's big hope yeah so I don't think you can panic yet Didn't Tottenham win their first two games last season including beating Man City. So maybe this is like the exact, you know, it's the Zerbe's fix that. That didn't, you know, last season wasn't good. So just flip it on its head. Start with it now. How did, Mark, how did Tonali play? I thought he was poor. He was got, he got a lot of stick from the Newcastle fans as you would imagine. But I couldn't work out, you know, on the one hand, they're saying what a waste of money he is and that Tottenham have had their pants pulled down.
20:38And on the other hand, they seem very angry that he's not on Newcastle anymore, which I suppose is the way that fans are supposed to be. He got taken off to great cheers from the Newcastle supporters. Afterwards, the Zerbe said he's not in perfect condition yet, which is a slight concern because he has had a whole pre-season. But that midfield really with Ben Sancor, Fernandes and Tonali, I think is maybe one too many. In an ideal world, they'd have kind of two of them there and then a number 10, but all the number 10s are injured at the moment. But it wasn't a good home debut from him. And if anything, he was outshone in the end by those Newcastle midfielders as well.
21:21And yeah, Newcastle, I didn't think they were amazing in the first half. But actually, once Langer got the goal and it was a fantastic finish, they really enjoyed the last half an hour. And it's been a great start for them, given a lot of the discourse around the club over the summer.
21:38Max Rushden:Can I ask, Mark, were you in your seat in time to hear the stadium announcer and compere talk about, say, we've spent and we've spent and we've spent, we're back, we're going places, we're huge? I was there. Yeah, Coity. Paul Coity. He got everybody up for it. There was a big cheer at that moment. And you're setting yourself up for a fall. But yeah, I was in my seat for that moment. You can't blame him, I guess.
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22:10Nicky Bandini:Unless he's not match fit either. He's not match sharp. He hasn't had a pre-season. Also, the Matthias Tell free kick was absolutely glorious, wasn't it? He was, I don't want to turn this into a Tottenham podcast, he was shocking. He just had one of them games where everything just went wrong for him because there was times in the first half when actually the game plan worked, isolated the winger against the fullback, and you think if that's Savio potentially and Die, maybe you get a different outcome. And Tottenham have bought too many players like Matisse Tell over the last five years where there's something there, but it's just not quite enough.
22:49Nicky Bandini:Yeah, you mentioned Indai. It looks like he's going to Tottenham for£60 million but Richarlison going to Everton for£35 million and Everton fans losing their minds and somehow someone is paying£35 million for Richarlison still. I mean, the numbers mean nothing. Look, Mark alluded to the Newcastle midfield and Gonzalez had a really good game, Barry. And actually, the Ilanga goal is such a crucial moment in that game and God, it's a brilliant goal from Ilanga.
23:13Max Rushden:It is a brilliant goal. They tried that move in the very first minute, I think. Lovely long pass from Gonzalez on that occasion. Alanga put it wide to the far post, I think. But this one, long ball. Newcastle had this clear plan to isolate Andy Robertson by getting Dedic forward with Alanga. Gonzalez played a wonderful diagonal pass from deep. Dedic headed it inside to Alanga. and he did really well to spin Tonali and lifted. A little bit lucky enough to post, rolled across the line. It took an age to cross the line, but across the line it did. While it pains me to praise Newcastle, I thought they were really good here.
23:59Max Rushden:They had a very poor first half when I think Tottenham should have gone a couple of goals ahead. I also think Tottenham should have had a penalty before Newcastle scored when Marmouche was fouled by Malik Thiau, who was late to contest a ball and kicked his boot. But Lewis Miley and Gonzalez look great in the midfield for Newcastle. Newcastle fans are finally getting to see the Johan Wisse and Ilanga that they paid big bucks for. Sven Bottmann was great. This Amar Dedic, a right back, he looks a good player. Lewis Hall was brilliant again. so it's very sad. Newcastle look like they'll be fine this season.
24:42Max Rushden:Yeah, that was one of your predictions. And their manager seems like a good bloke as well. It looks like they might have picked a good one there. I keep looking at him and thinking he's Scott Parker. I can't help it. I don't know what's happening. The German Scott Parker. Yeah. He looks like the faceless man from Game of Thrones, I think. What does he end up doing in that romp? I presume he gets his head cut off. I can't remember.
25:07Nicky Bandini:And there is a review of Game of Thrones. So, you know, it is an occupational hazard if you are, you know, one of Jon Snow's... He's a real weird, intense guy
25:17Max Rushden:who takes Arya Stark to, you know, she learns how to magic sort of thing. He's kind of a wizard-y guy.
25:27Nicky Bandini:Producer Joel says, I think that signals the end of part one. I don't know. I'm just getting into this. We'll be back in a second and we'll start at Anfield.
25:41Nicky Bandini:welcome to part two of the guardian football weekly live shows then tomorrow night we're at vicar street in dublin uh so a few tickets remaining so if you've got nothing to do come and watch us me barry john bruin jonathan wilson and lots of fun it says here yeah we've uh we've got some plans and it'll be great come along and we'll probably go to a nearby pub afterwards um but we won't bring a raw chicken this time just in case that one poor barman who's just there on a quiet Tuesday night and suddenly a thousand people all storm in with some lamb chops. And then the 9th of September, we're at the Soho Theatre in Walthamstow.
26:17Nicky Bandini:Johnny Lou is joining the four of us. So Mark and Nicky, come and see us, please. And that show is live streamed all across Earth. So no excuse for the 7 billion or so who inhabit this planet. Guardian.co.uk slash Football Weekly Live if you'd like to come. It'd be lovely to see you. to Anfield then Liverpool 2 Forest 2 Forest 2 twice in this game Mark Liverpool saved by Nunoz again were Liverpool lucky to get a point I think in the first half on the evidence of that yeah I think Liverpool could have definitely been behind before they were behind and even in the second half it wasn't great from Liverpool that's for sure I'm just trying to work out whether I've got a confirmation bias because I wasn't strong on Liverpool going into this season.
27:06I did think that there would be some issues and I'm not the only one to point out the midfield and the unbalanced nature of it. But I do wonder whether they've now played against maybe two of the best counter-attacking teams potentially in the league. Newcastle, we've already seen, are very good at that. And Forrest, under Glasner, what he had with Crystal Palace, they were a counter-attacking side. and when you've got Ndoy and the pace of him and the quality of Gibbs-White. So maybe they'll be better Liverpool when they come up against teams that don't want to counter-attack them in quite the same way.
27:44But there are clearly issues in that team that will need resolving at some point. And they keep wanting to buy attacking players. And Barclay, potentially overpriced, but he's better than what they've got on that left-hand side, so he will improve them. But I just think they're asking too much of the defence, you know, too often, really. And Iriola, like, he seems comfortable with kind of how they are in midfield, but it looks to me like they could do with getting somebody in because we spoke about Chelsea earlier on. I think they have got solutions, they're just maybe not around at the moment.
28:25I don't see those solutions for Liverpool. So I know it's an obvious sort of talking point with them, but it does look like a problem. Would you go with that, Baz?
28:36Max Rushden:Yeah, they seem quite easy to play through. The midfield seem to struggle to bring Alexander Isaac into the game. I know he scored in this spot. Otherwise, he looked quite an isolated figure. I think they have problems all over the pitch. The full backs weren't particularly good. Milos Kerk has yet to impress as a Liverpool player Starting the season with two draws is not the end of the world We know Andan Iarola is a slow starter It takes a while for players to learn his way of doing things Concerned maybe with that Bournemouth through an awful lot of games last season Up to 16, 17 in the Premier League That is a lot of draws they don't look as if they'll be threatening to win the title and the evidence, the very early evidence of what we've seen so far.
29:32Nicky Bandini:Yeah, it's interesting with Izak as well, Nicky, isn't it? It's almost hard to recall how brilliant he was at Newcastle, having seen him just not look anywhere near the same. I don't know if that is a service thing or a confidence thing or all of those things put together, but we know how brilliant he is. Yeah, I think it's a style of play thing as well and the way that you're delivering the ball. I mean, it's worth reminding ourselves, he does score in this game. Gakpo, it was a lovely, lovely turning cross from Gakpo, who still, again, by the time people listen to this, if the report's to be believed, might not be at the club.
30:07I find that a very odd transfer. Do you find it weird as well,
30:10Nicky Bandini:because he's started the season really well and not many Liverpool players have? I know it is only two games, but then you're like, actually, it just looks, the optics are bad. Right, and especially going to another Premier League club. like that that I I'm again it might not happen we're we're talking at a time that everything's going to be going crazy because it's the end of the transfer window but it it seems very odd um but yeah you know he's like took that chance um when it was served to him I I think it's I don't know I don't want to keep repeating this but it's two games into the season and I think give our Irola time to to work that out I I do feel like the bigger problems as as Baz and uh Mark just alluded to, to me, feel like the middle of the park.
30:52It felt like Schlager and McAtee had far the better of those exchanges with Schrappeslein and McAllister. And that was, I mean, a credit to Nottingham Forest as well. I think Nottingham Forest played a really, really tight tactical game and really were in controller spaces, really were working hard all over the pitch. Morgan Gibbs-White doing great work forward and backwards. I don't know. I think Isaac last season feels like you just kind of have to write it off. Now you've got a new manager, you've got a new system. It's very clearly a work in progress. I think I'm willing to wait and see if he's got a better understanding of how to get the best out of that forward.
31:31But it is, I suppose, that is one thing that's a bit awkward is you've done that last summer. You've gone out and spent the big lump on a striker, which is always one of those purchases that is supposed to be an investment that lasts you for a while. does he fit the style of football now under a completely different system? And that's the to be determined in my eyes, I think. Sure.
31:52Nicky Bandini:You don't want to spend a big lump on a big lump. And I mean, I did love Forrest.
31:58Max Rushden:Forrest spent a big lump on a big lump and he was instrumental in scoring the goal or winning the penalty to put them 2-1 ahead.
32:08Nicky Bandini:Yeah. And actually, I mean, Igor Jesus, is he a big lump? but he did really well for the opening goal. It was that huge punt upfield. It was an absolutely lover goal that begins with just hoeing upfield and Liverpool's defence just running away. Key performance for Glasner who needed that after two disappointing runs. We have to talk about the substitution. Yes. So the penalty is won when Liverpool want to make a triple substitution. The fourth official, Tim Robertson, had two boards on the floor and was pressing with the buttons. And Barry, you were explaining to me how these boards worked yesterday on the radio.
32:43Max Rushden:It's a bit like my air fryer. You have to toggle up or down from, you know, 100 or 20 or whatever. Apparently, the team who are making the substitutions, their backroom staff are supposed to put the numbers in the boards, and then the fourth official checks them and holds them up. Tim Robinson was the fourth official. He was doing it here. Each board can only handle two substitutions at a time, hence the need for the two boards. I'm not sure why it took it so long. I think we established on the radio it was because Ngomua has such a high shirt number. Yeah, 73 apparently. But it certainly got on Anthony Iriola's goat and it's a process that should be straightforward.
33:32Max Rushden:I don't think it's a process that's even required because the stadium announcer could announce who's coming on and off and the referee could tell whoever's going off, they're going off.
33:43Nicky Bandini:I mean, lucky for Tim that there weren't five subs because then he'd need a third board if he could only have two on each board. With squad numbers getting so high, surely they must be able to make a board where you could just write 7-3 for 73 rather than Tim Robinson going 1-2-3-4. What if you accidentally get to 74? Do they have to go all the way up and then back to naught again?
34:02Max Rushden:It's like setting a digital watch. It's like...
34:08Nicky Bandini:Anyway. On Friday night, Man City won 4-1 at Palace. City can be hard to love sometimes, Mark, but Rayan Cherky is such a joy in his first ever brace and he had a great game. Yeah, although afterwards he said he was angry with himself and not setting up Haaland more often and says that from next week he'll do that and create more chances for Haaland to score. I was knocked over by how good City were in this game. and it's a different city. They can't play the same way with Pep Guardiola gone. I wasn't impressed with them at all against Bournemouth. This idea that Gai in midfield worked, just completely disagreed with, even though he scored.
34:52He scored from a set piece. But it was a much more kind of normal kind of look to the team in terms of players in the right position against Crystal Palace. And they were a threat just every time they went forward. But Cherki was fantastic. Haaland obviously took his goals as you would expect Haaland.
35:12Nicky Bandini:It really was. It was a great camera angle for it as well. Sort of looked in from the moment he headed it. Foden had an indifferent first half really where he was getting into the right positions and didn't take the chances. But he grew into the game as well. And yeah, it was again, talking about Alonso earlier on, to get that combination play going so early, I think will have pleased Maresca. An interesting atmosphere, though, Max. I don't know if you saw the story before the game about the Palace Ultras disbanding and not working as a group anymore. It issued a statement on that saying they're unhappy with lots of things around the club and modern football, etc.
35:56And it didn't feel like Selhurst was hostile. Evening game, yeah. Yeah, it didn't feel quite as hostile as it could be, given it was Sarge's first game as well. So they'll want home advantage because it's been a tricky start for a new manager with Mateta not wanting to be there, Sarge not wanting to be there. They've lost a couple of players as well. It just feels really unsettled at the moment at Crystal Palace, but from a City point of view, yeah, I really enjoyed watching that.
36:27Nicky Bandini:Sort of like a game of British Bulldog where Pierre Sarge is there and all the players are trying to run past him. Mateta, and he's caught Mateta, and then Daniel Munoz has skipped through and gone to Forest. You're like, how dare you? But, I mean, that's an interesting point, I think, Barry, because those Palace fans at home do make such a difference to that side. I think they have reason, don't they, to be frustrated because, you know, they're selling all their players. But at the same time, your expectations change so quickly in football, right? You know, you win, like the last three years have been the most successful three years Crystal Palace have ever, ever had.
36:58Nicky Bandini:And I suppose it's trying to balance all of those things, I guess, the ownership with that.
37:02Max Rushden:Yeah, when I heard that about the Homesdale Fanatics disbanding, my immediate reaction was like, oh, this is like someone pompously announcing they're leaving Twitter. You know, you don't need to do that. Just stop tweeting. But their concerns are valid, I think. Their team is basically being sold off for spare parts. I mean City were comfortable winners in this game but I didn't think Palace were terrible they were a bit like their game against Everton last week they were good in spots Tariq Mitchell and Eddie Nketiah both missed really good chances when Palace were only a goal down if they'd gone in who knows what might have happened probably a City win anyway but Sellers Park is one of not many Premier League grounds where there's a really good atmosphere and if they lose that as well as a load of their best players, it could be a bad season for them.
38:00Nicky Bandini:If they disband but their season tickets are all in the same place, are they all still sitting next to each other but they're just not a going concern? How does that work? I don't know.
38:11Max Rushden:If England cricket's barmy army, we're still here, we're just not barmy anymore.
38:20Nicky Bandini:It's possible. Hull, top of the league, or joint top at least. 100 % records. Halfway to beating the Derby points total already, which Baz predicted they may not do. Look, it's a brilliant start for them, Nicky. And like, you know, those games now where you think, you know, you come the end of the season, you take three points off a team you expect also to be down there. And maybe Hull will surprise us like Sunderland did last year. But just to win your first two is an unbelievable start. Yeah, it's the same discourse as before. Tottenham won their first games last year, it doesn't guarantee you anything.
38:54A season could still be hard, but I think there's so much encouraging about the way that they're playing. I'd heard good things about Djokovic before this season. I do feel like he's looking already like he's just a good tactician doing sensible, nothing necessarily that's rewriting the playbook, but the team, I think contrasting, because there was such a contrast, even talking about Chelsea before and how their back three had these spaces between them that didn't look right. When you see Hull defending, their back three is so compact in this game. They've given up something like 70 crosses across their first few games, but it doesn't matter because they've got these three big centre-backs who are controlling that space inside the area so well.
39:37And they are playing effective counter-attacking football when they want to. I mean, they got the winning goal through Miller. He absolutely should have passed instead of shooting a few minutes earlier, and they could have scored before they did. So it wasn't necessarily the most eye-catching performance of the weekend. It wasn't necessarily sparkling, ridiculous seven-goal football like we had in some other games. But it was just good, well-organised team play that was very, very effective. And I think they've done that now in two games in a row. They haven't conceded a goal in their first two games back in the Premier League.
40:14I think there's lots and lots to look at here and think they've got a very good chance of fighting to stay in the division.
40:20Nicky Bandini:The chance before that Miller put wide when he couldn't and should have passed it, actually it's set up by McBurney. The more I see McBurney, Mark, and having been at the Abbey to watch Lyndon Dykes look okay for Millwall, Millwall reserves, I was thinking, how did McBurney not make the Scotland squad? Because he has got something different. He's a really smart, intelligent, creative footballer. He's played very well in these opening two matches. Clearly, it has to have been an issue between player and manager because even last season, he was playing better than some of the strikers that went to the World Cup, that's for sure.
40:57And actually, when you look at the way Scotland played, having someone like McBurney up there that would have held it up, brought others into it, the midfielders. McTominay, for instance, maybe has a better World Cup if McBurney's the one that's holding it up. and then releasing him. What I like about Hull, and I'll say this, I don't really want to watch them for 90 minutes every week because I don't think it's going to be a great watch, but they know kind of who they are and what they want to be. Coventry, on the other hand, they've brought in new players as of Hull, but I still think they're figuring out, they were a possession-based team in the Championship, can we still be that in the Premier League?
41:37It's a difficult conundrum, I think, for Frank Lampard in terms of how they try and approach this season. Whereas Hull, they did this last season in the Championship, so they're very comfortable in their skin. And they will play like this, I would say, for the 38 matches. And I don't expect it to be enough, but what a great start. And you're right on McBurney. He's a good player to watch. There aren't enough players like McBurney in the Premier League anymore. Yeah, some Steve Clarish vibes for me.
42:08Nicky Bandini:Only three teams have ever been relegated from the Premier League, having won their first two games. One of those teams is Hull, by the way. So, you know, just to, you know, take away having given you that hope. And that'll do for part two. Part three, we'll begin at Bournemouth.
42:25Nicky Bandini:Welcome to part three of the Guardian Football Weekly. Bournemouth won Everton won. I really enjoyed this game, Barry.
42:30Max Rushden:Yeah, it was good. I think a draw was probably a fair result in the end. Everton will feel they should have won because Jordi Petrovic made some, I think, at least three really, really good saves for Bournemouth. Bournemouth went ahead. Their goal, it was all about Evan Eelsen, I think. He chased a long ball upfield and turned James Karkowski inside out and then set up Alex Scott, who set himself and fired into the corner. Tiernan O 'Barry was back to the, probably the Thierry and El Barry were more accustomed to rather than the ones that roared out of the traps in the first two games this season with four goals.
43:12Max Rushden:He missed two very presentable chances, although I would give him the benefit in doubt and say it was more brilliant saves that denied him than his own shortcomings as a finisher, but he should have scored. But the Everton goal, Marco Rosé described it as slapstick and he was right. two Bournemouth players got in each other's way trying to clear the ball at a corner it dropped for Tarkowski and he just made sure to hit the target and in it went
43:42Nicky Bandini:Not a hilarious slapstick I mean I'm not saying you know Laurel and Hardy the Chuckle Brothers wouldn't have finished a show with that
43:49Max Rushden:It wasn't the Chuckle Brothers bringing a giant pane of glass across the street
43:53Nicky Bandini:No, no It was sort of it was in the you know look we need highs and lows in this scene so we'll do a you know we'll save the pane of glass the end this is just a bit of ladder work you know just spinning with the ladder that's what it was the the Petrovic stayed from the Branthwaite header early that flick is it's absolutely unbelievable piece of goalkeeping I think um and Mikelenko did this sort of double block there's a moment where Everton defenders were just hurling themselves at the ball the whole time I don't think so Pickford's celebration after that was uh yeah he'd love to get involved but no I was I was I don't know if I was gonna just steal your thunder there Max and say well I think the big story for Everton was kind of off the pitch really um I must admit when I saw on Saturday morning that um Forrest were bidding 40 million for Armstrong I was like do I even know he is um and I was like wow like 40 million you've got to take that and then the Everton fans were up in arms and sort of suggesting that maybe this would be like when Newcastle sold Elliot Anderson and yeah I appreciate like he's a player that's just passed me by really and you know it would have been a a kick in the teeth to have lost him um clearly but David Moyes after the game I I just like there's something reassuring about an angry David Moyes like I think all is all is well with uh with the Premier League if if Moyes is um sort of furious in the and he always does it in this sort of way where he gives very short answers um there's a bit of code in there and you have to try to work out you know um just how angry on that one to ten he is.
45:23I think he's about an eight at the moment. He's ready to blow, but let's wait and see what comes from the last couple of days.
45:31Nicky Bandini:So there's Harrison Armstrong, the owners were going to sell him and then Moyes and the fans said, don't do it and they've sort of reneged on him.
45:36Max Rushden:Do you think maybe that was a smokescreen so they could slip Illum and Njai out the side door and bring it welcome back with Charleston?
45:45Nicky Bandini:I was going to say, you know, Barry's missed those chances. It's alright. Charleston can miss them next week. But I mean, but there is a serious point here, Nicky, in that It shows this kind of pure profit for academy players is inherently wrong because it just goes against the point. You are better off sending your best academy player to some other club and then buying them two years later. All of football transfer market stuff recently feels like it's become this incredibly odd, counterintuitive set of motivations for everyone. You've got teams selling off entire squads because of PSR. I mean, Aston Villa are the obvious case in the Premier League and just having to completely get assets stripped after a period when they've been building up something.
46:29But the stuff with academy players, I mean, I don't know how aware of this move places people outside of Premier League folks to be. But this summer, I mean, Nico Paz at Colmo, who was bought by them, not taken on loan, bought by them a couple of years ago, has been there for two years. Real Madrid retained an option to buy him back for about 11 million euros. They bought him back and almost the same day sold him back so that then they could have another, a new release clause put in at 60 million euros. All of it feels fake. All of it feels like it's this whole like elaborate setup that they're all doing.
47:07And it's going to be in reality, like this is how smart clubs do business from now on. It's going to be coming up with more elaborate ways to, I guess, manipulate the bottom lines and make the numbers look how they're supposed to look but without breaching rules and without breaking laws, I guess.
47:24Max Rushden:Yeah. Sunderland 1-0, Barry? Big win for Sunderland because there's some tough fixtures coming up. Brentford, Arsenal and I think Manchester City. So they needed to get some points on the board here and they did. It wasn't a very good game. Nordy Mukiali impressed for Sunderland. Wilson Isidore hit one off the foot of the post after brilliant build-up work by Granit Xhaka and Enzo Le Fay and then scored a second time of Askin after a great Muki Ali pass down the line to Habib Diara who squared the ball for Isidore. Bernd Leno made an absolute dog's breakfast. He should have saved that, but he went with his feet instead of his hands to try and block the ball at Isidore's feet.
48:16Max Rushden:But yeah, good win for Sunderland and much needed because, as I said, they've three really difficult games coming up.
48:24Nicky Bandini:And then finally Leeds-Brentford, which I thought was a good game. I thought Brentford, Mark, were pretty unlucky in this. They were all over Leeds for certainly the first half. The Shard of goal. Well, let's spend some time on the Shard of goal. That's absolutely glorious. Yeah, I don't feel like you got enough praise, actually. There are times when I was watching the Chelsea game at the time, so sort of relying on updates elsewhere on social media. And you know, sometimes people go crazy over a goal, and then you see it, and you're like, oh, it's kind of ruined because you're expecting this unbelievable, I don't know, volley from 40 yards.
49:01But this one, I felt, was underplayed. The skill to be able to control that in a deliberate way, it wasn't lucky. it was a brilliant finish from Sharda who I think is an exceptional talent actually one of them that Brentford when they want to sell him will get an absolute fortune for you're right Max that Brentford should have won this game and the penalty you were more angry than me over the fact that Sharda but I think it's a foul
49:33Nicky Bandini:so therefore I think it's a penalty but I've got to say My anger levels are very, I'm really, I'm even. There's no part of me that's seething about it. No, but just, I mean, to go to Leeds, who I think are a good side this year, dominate them at Ellen Road and be disappointed to finish with a point, I suggest to me that Brentford missed out on Europe last season, but really should be aiming for sort of top six, seven this time around.
50:02Max Rushden:So I should have mentioned, actually, speaking of Europe, Sunderland got their Europa League draw on Friday. So I had to Google one of the teams that are playing, Torinth, who are a Portuguese second division side. Mark hilariously pointed out that they probably had to Google Sunderland as well. They also got Jagiellonia. And the only reason I know a Polish side, the only reason I know who they are is because they knocked out Rangers. But it's not the most glam draw imaginable. Dinamo Zagreb at home, and AC Milan away are the standout fixtures. And Newcastle fans have a song called You'll Never See a Macam in Milan.
50:44Max Rushden:So they're going to have to shelve that one.
50:47Nicky Bandini:I thought at the start of when you said Terence, I thought you said you're going to have to Google Torino. And I thought, well, I know you're not here as a Euro expert, but I thought maybe even they hadn't entirely passed you by over these years. is Calvert-Lewin the only player to have scored in the last 11 Premier League seasons. So well done to him. Villa-Arsenal tonight. So we'll talk about that on tomorrow's podcast. I like this question from Steve, the people losing their minds early. Can anyone explain what Arsenal are doing? Must have the worst attack in Europe while bending over backwards for a player that doesn't want to come to us.
51:18Nicky Bandini:Nicky, please tell us something. I think Nicky's, I really hope you totally agree and I've lost your mind too, but I feel like you've got quite a good attack. The worst attack in Europe is certainly a stretch. We've still got Ryan Loft kicking about. I do think it's this close to the end of the transfer window. I think it should be remarked on that they are saying goodbye to Martinelli and Trossard and Jesus. That's more than 100 appearances for them last season. I think it's more than 130 appearances for them last season. And Martinelli, while he was far from prolific, he was their top scorer in the Champions League with six goals overall, 11 goals.
51:58was actually like their joint second with Saka in all competitions. So there is a question of why they haven't done something more in terms of their business this summer and whether they've been too hung up on certain players where, I don't know, the feeling isn't mutual maybe. And I'll be interested to see if something does get done before the end of the transfer window. But yes, I would agree that that's a little bit hyperbolic to say the worst attack in Europe.
52:26Nicky Bandini:It's harsh on Saka, isn't it? Champions League draw at the headlines. Then Liverpool home to Atleti away to Inter Milan, amongst others. Villa have PSG at home, Barca away. City, PSG at home, Barca away. Man United have Bayern Munich at home, Atleti away. And Arsenal, Real Madrid at home, Bayern away. And Sabah at home. Speaking of teams we've never heard of. Gunnar in Paris says, were Cambridge mummed off dot com, Max? Yeah. Neil Harris, who is so football and post-match. We lost 2-1 at home to Huddersfield. One up with 10 minutes to go. We scored late and then they equalized straight away. And then we conceded a penalty that was a clean tackle outside the box.
53:04Nicky Bandini:But our goal, we also pushed one of their players over, to be fair. But afterwards, Neil Harris did say, in proper Neil Harris way, we've been mugged off. We've been propermuggedoff.com. There's another podcast. There are other podcasts available. I don't know if you know. Yeah, but there is. There is. There is. On a different podcast, there is a section on it called Bloke or Geezer, where they discuss whether someone is a bloke or a geezer. I think Neil Harris is absolute geezer on every sense of it. He just won't. He's definitely not bloke. Is that Josh James? Is that that? Yes, it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
53:39Nicky Bandini:Josh James. Had him on the radio. Yeah, he's good and they're funny. But yeah, he is absolute. He's geezer and he's football geezer. The amount of times he says football club in a sentence is absolutely glorious. Tom says, dear Max Barry and the rest, could we please have a special mention to our dear friend Luca, who's getting married to his lovely fiancé in Spain on September the 12th. Unfortunately, on the 24th of August, disaster struck when Luca suffered a bout of testicular torsion. Oh, bollocks. Yes, bollocks tangled up. This ill-timed twist of fate, pardon the pun, has meant he'll be on antibiotics for the wedding as well as the stag do the weekend before, meaning he won't be able to drink.
54:18Nicky Bandini:It poses an interesting question. Which of the panel do you think will be more painful? A, testicular torsion, or B, having a completely sober stag do in Benidorm with 18 of your very drunk and unsympathetic mates. Oh, God. I mean, it's bad enough if you could drink. We thought this would be right in the Football Weekly mailbag wheelhouse, with it being testicle adjacent and a tale of newlyweds. Our Luca is a huge Football Weekly fan. I know Barry, wishing him and his tangled tackle all the best on his big day would mean the world to him and help take away some of his pain. All the best, keep up the good work.
54:49Nicky Bandini:So that is Luca. Tom doesn't even give the name of his lovely fiancée. That gives me much work. Yes, just lovely.
54:58Max Rushden:Well, I hope she's gentle with Luca on the wedding night. Well, of course. Blimey. Well, if Luca is tempted to have a few pints of Benidorm, I would strenuously advise against it if he wants to avoid a certain Munich-type incident. Got it. Because that's what happened to me.
55:16Nicky Bandini:Right, okay. Well, I don't know. rub salt into the wounds it's probably not the right phrase but anyway yes best of luck to you Luca that stag do it sounds awful anyway but now it sounds absolute imagine being able to to be able to see it in pure sober through sober eyes it's an absolute disaster but good luck I don't think I'd call I don't think I'd finish it I think good idea stay on the sofa I've just started watching Ludwig very entertaining you could do that instead alright that'll do for today thanks everybody thank you Baz thank you thanks Nikki thanks thanks Mark thank you Max we'll see you in Dublin tomorrow night and we're back for a pod tomorrow as well Football Weekly is produced by James Pike Watson our executive producer is Joel Grove we're back tomorrow
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