In short
The episode of Guardian Football Weekly Extra focuses on Manchester United’s reported pursuit of RB Leipzig striker Benjamin Sesko, debating whether he’s worth the ~£74m fee and how he fits into United’s attack alongside new signings. Panelists discuss Sesko’s profile (tall, fast, strong finisher; 14 goals in 30 starts last season for Leipzig) and question the “not finished article” concern given his scoring record and price, while noting he could upgrade Rasmus Hojlund and add long-range power. They also argue United’s brand and wages help attract players despite recent “graveyard” narratives, and compare recruitment approaches with Arsenal/Liverpool. They cover Newcastle’s recruitment frustration under PSR, including Alexander Isak being sidelined from a training-ground barbecue. Other transfers mentioned: Villa signing Evan Gassin; Everton talks/bids around Jack Grealish, Tyler Dibling, and signing Dewsbury-Hall. They preview Championship opening weekend (Birmingham vs Ipswich) and discuss Wrexham’s momentum and manager appointments.
Guests
Ben Fisher, Max (unnamed), Lars Siviton, Barry Glendening, Max Rushton.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODeep Dive into Benjamin Sesko
2:14 to 5:28
Discussion on the implications of Sesko's potential transfer to Manchester United.
“Manchester United look like they're going to get their man paying£74 million to RB Leipzig for Benjamin Sesco.”
Evaluating Manchester United's Transfer Strategy
5:28 to 8:44
Analysis of United's spending and comparison to Arsenal and Liverpool's strategies.
“If Ruben Amorim can get a tune out of them, I think Ruben Amorim will be a good manager for Manchester United.”
Newcastle's Recruitment Challenges
8:44 to 11:00
Exploration of Newcastle's struggles in the transfer market and their strategy.
“Well, he's going to need to start really well.”
Newcastle's Recruitment Challenges
14:01 to 20:56
Discussion on Newcastle's recruitment strategy and challenges faced in transfers.
“they seem to be, Nicholas Jackson seems to be on the radar, bringing him in from Chelsea.”
Championship Predictions and Team Insights
22:46 to 28:00
Analysis of the Championship season start, focusing on key teams and players.
“Think of everything we do for you, you ungrateful bastards.”
The Tug of War in Sports Media
28:00 to 29:02
Discussing the balance between sports and entertainment in media.
“I mean, he's an interesting signing, Barry, isn't he?”
Championship Signings and Predictions
29:02 to 30:24
Analyzing new signings and predicting outcomes in the Championship.
“I was like, no, they've signed him from Celtic because I'd missed an entire part of his career.”
Wrexham's Rising Prospects
30:24 to 32:08
Exploring Wrexham's potential for success with recent signings.
“And there is zero doubt in my mind that they will be a Premier League team before too long.”
Managerial Changes in the Championship
32:08 to 33:44
Discussing recent managerial changes and their implications.
“I don't think they would go down, but I don't think they would necessarily trouble the top six.”
Sheffield Wednesday's Challenges
33:44 to 36:29
Analyzing the dire situation for Sheffield Wednesday and potential repercussions.
“His sort of January recruitment was ultimately kind of what he paid the price for, made a series of loans and won a big sign in Tom Cannon.”
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Tribute to Georges Costa
36:29 to 38:22
Paying tribute to the late Georges Costa and his legacy in football.
“give off the impression of what it would look like if Wednesday weren't here.”
Thomas Partey's Controversial Move
38:22 to 41:54
Discussing the implications of Thomas Partey's potential move to Villarreal amid legal issues.
“Part three will begin by paying tribute to Georges Costa.”
Champions League Qualifiers Analysis
42:00 to 44:10
Explore the latest Champions League qualifiers including standout performances and crucial matches.
“But they've got another one now against Victoria Pilsen.”
Youth Players in High-Stakes Matches
44:10 to 46:52
Discuss the implications of young players stepping up in critical matches, highlighting a 16-year-old's penalty.
“which I suspect that's what he'd be doing for a lot of this season.”
Listener's Wedding Plans and Football Hopes
46:52 to 49:16
Engage with a listener's wedding story and their hopes for their partner to embrace football.
“I've had a vasectomy, so I feel part of the club.”
Cultural Reflections on the Name Barry
49:16 to 50:56
Reflect on the popularity of the name Barry over time and its cultural implications.
“they met when he was 46 and I am 46 myself I think the days of me being asked or me applying and accepted to go on Love Island are gone have you tried?”
Transcript
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1:26Hello and welcome to the Guardian Football Weekly. Manchester United look to have won the race to sign Benjamin Sesko. Does Sesko, Cunha and Bumo suddenly look like quite good? Or will they all arrive at Old Trafford and go backwards? That means Newcastle will miss out on another player while Alexander Izak isn't allowed to the Newcastle United barbecue. Not the barbecue! Elsewhere, Villa sign a striker and Everton sign a manor house. We'll look ahead to the championship that kicks off with promoted Birmingham against relegated Ipswich on Friday night. Also today, Russell Martin's Rangers get back on the horse.
1:53We'll pay tribute to George Costa and discuss the popularity of the name Barry. And we'll answer your questions. And that's today's Guardian Football Weekly.
2:06On the panel today, Ben Fisher, welcome. Hi, Max. Lars Siviton, hello. Hello, Max. And good morning, Barry Glendening. Hello, Max Rushton. Let's start then with Benjamin Sesco. Manchester United look like they're going to get their man paying£74 million to RB Leipzig for Benjamin Sesco. Fabrizio Romano tweeting he'd reached total agreement, absolute total agreement with Manchester United on personal terms and he wants to join Manchester United. Before we discuss why would you join Man United when any other team wants you, Lars, tell us a bit more about Sesco because we've heard, you know, along with Jocheres, we have heard this name so many times this summer, but there are probably a lot of people listening who haven't seen a lot of him play.
2:49Lars Sivertsen:Yeah, so he's very tall and he's fast for his size, fast in general, and he hits the ball really well. So that's exciting things for a striker. He came through the fizzy drink empire. He came through at Abis Salzburg. And obviously when he came through there, you had a very tall blonde forward who ran fast for his size and would hit the ball really hard. And I think there were a fair few people who would look at that and go, hang on, we've seen this story before at Salzburg. So clearly people were very excited about him. And the expectation was that he was going to go to the Bundesliga and completely blow the league away.
3:27Lars Sivertsen:And in the first season, he was good. He had 17 starts, 14 off the bench for Leipzig, scored 14 goals, going along at a good clip. But last season, 13 goals of 30 starts for Leipzig, which is not amazing for a center forward in the Bundesliga. But RB Leipzig were mostly crap. So again, as a striker, if your team is crap, it hurts you, right? It's harder. So he has, I think the phrase a lot of people are going to, which I would concur with, is that he has all the tools, right? He's got size, he's got speed. He can really wallop the ball. I think it's entirely plausible that he can score lots of goals in the Premier League.
4:02Lars Sivertsen:I just balk at the price tag a little bit because you're paying, like that's, for me if you buy if you're buying a striker out of the bundesliga at that price you want someone who is who is the finished article and is the real deal and i don't think he's that he he kind of feels like he should have had a breakout blow up superstar season this year and then that didn't happen and then you go and pay 75 million for him that feels a bit odd to me and you know that if you're united fan you know that two teams who typically get this right more often than your team does. Arsenal and Liverpool have both signed a striker in this window.
4:36Lars Sivertsen:Arsenal looked at Sesco and the price and thought, nope, not doing that. We're going Joachares. Liverpool were prepared to pay that kind of money for a forward for the Bundesliga, but they went for a critique instead of Sesco. United are apparently now pulling the trigger in this kind of deal. I think it's very plausible that he will score goals. I think he's an upgrade on Rasmus Heiland. I'm puzzled by the price a little bit, especially when we know that United have other things to do. That midfield needs some help and you've already signed a lot of money i've spent a lot of money on kunyan and buemo you're going to spend a lot of money on sesgo hmm allocation of resources i have some questions but the player uh is good yeah i mean they spent what 64 on hoyland i think and it was plus 8 million in add-ons i presume they haven't had to pay any of those add-ons i don't know what the add-ons were there are comparisons to be made with hoyland in the sense that he was another tall blonde guy who you said he has all the tools but maybe his scoring record before this isn't as good as you would want now i do think sesco is better i at that kind of money i would want someone who is like 100 slam dunk let's go and i don't quite feel that way but he can definitely yeah i i'm hedging my bets a little bit there's a there is a bit of fence sitting going on because i just think he will score goals and i don't want to look too stupid when that happens but there but but there are voices at the back of my head that just screams, this is a lot of money for a guy who isn't completely the finished article and did go missing a fair bit last season.
6:04I guess that's the thing, you can't take the money out of it, but when you take the money out of it, Barry, and you look at Cunha and Bumov and Sesko, that does seem quite, that's quite, you know, if I saw that, you know, when they go to the Man United starting line-up, I'd be like, that is a good front three.
6:19Max Rushden:It is a good front three. If Ruben Amorim can get a tune out of them, I think Ruben Amorim will be a good manager for Manchester United. I'd imagine he sells the club very well, or his project very well, to prospective signings, and Manchester United clearly have a pulling power that Newcastle don't. The biggest one being that they can afford to pay players more money in wages than Newcastle can. There is talk that players don't want to go to Newcastle because Newcastle is a very isolated city and the picture painted by some people is that it's some sort of medieval hovel. I mean, I was there during the summer.
7:08Max Rushden:It's very nice. If I was a footballer, I'd be happy enough to live there. No problem. But Manchester United clearly have this massive reputation. It's a club. these young European players are more familiar with and they have a history of winning things, which last season's Carabao, Copperside, Newcastle at all. Yeah, I suppose that's... Pete asked this question, Ben, which is, I know money is obviously a factor, but why do players still want to sign for Man United? Do they not look at the number of promising careers that have stalled in the last decades? Or does the level of confidence required to be at that level make them think they can buck the trend?
7:45And that's quite an interesting point, is I just wonder how many players go, this seems to be a graveyard for promising footballers, or I'm really good at football, why don't I, I'll be good for them. Yeah, I think it's that ego thing that you get with managers, you know, when managers take a job. When Ruben Amarin took the Manchester United job, I know the timing was a little bit forced from his side. I know he wanted to take over, not mid-season, but I think it's probably the same with players and especially those ones who have grown up, you know, sort of maybe the back-end years of United being this sort of huge force.
8:15It still naturally has that pulling power. But I think there's, players back themselves. I think, you know, Cunha and Imbremo as examples will think, I can go and replicate what I've done at Wolves and Brentford, respectively, at Old Trafford. What a place to do it when it's all kind of tickety-boo. And I imagine Benjamin Seska quite likes the idea of spearheading that. But it does feel, I suppose every signing is a gamble, but it feels so important given the kind of framing around Amirim. We've heard him in pre-season say he wants to beat United for 20 years. Well, he's going to need to start really well.
8:48The pressure is going to be on. I do think it probably helps Sesko, say he signs and it doesn't quite happen straight off. You'd like to think Kunia and Imbremo have goals in them. It's not like they're wingers that provide for strikers, if you like. Their numbers are really impressive the last couple of seasons, so that may help as well. But yeah, United's a strange one, isn't it? Because it has been basically a basket case for a while, and yet they kind of keep getting away with it because players still want to join them. They've still got the global kind of brand and everything that comes with that, the ability to pay wages.
9:27But yeah, it's going to be pressure on from the first game. And actually make the point, Lars, the questions you have about what happens behind those three, right? What is the midfield?
9:38Lars Sivertsen:Well, this is the thing, because I'm just kind of assuming the fact they've gone big on both Buemo and Cunha, and they want a number nine, suggests to me that they want a striker and then Cunha and Buemo behind them, which I guess means Bruno Fernandes central midfielder is the plan this year. And I just think if that's your front three and Bruno is one of your two in the middle, the guy next to him is going to have an awful lot of stuff to do. That can't be Casemiro, I don't think. And it probably can't be Ugarte either based on what we've seen so far. And it's going to be a tough one for Kobe Mainu.
10:09Lars Sivertsen:They've been linked with Carlos Baleba from Brighton, which I like a lot because he runs a lot. He covers a ton of ground. But also Brighton are going to want a huge fee for him. so again you can only sack so many cleaning ladies you know to find this money it's it's it's gonna be it's gonna be tricky one other thing i just want to add on tesco he does like to wallop on from distance like he's one of those who hits the ball really well and is not afraid of letting fly from sometimes from long ranges now you already have bruno who does love a speculative hit yeah and you've got absolutely loves that so i do think united whatever happens this season when we get to the sort of end of season goal of the year compilations, I'm expecting United to show up good there with wild shots from distance.
10:53Lars Sivertsen:But the downside of that is you might also be spending a lot of time watching players kick the ball into the stand for no discernible reason from about 20, 30 yards. So there's a downside to that as well. Whatever happens, you'll have a good montage, Manchester United fans. Meanwhile, you sort of touched on this, Barry, Newcastle. They're really struggling to bring players in. Alexander Izak he was ordered to train separately with his teammates and to stay away from a lunchtime training ground barbecue which is just a lovely tiny bit of information saying you can't go to the barbecue and the idea that he'll go I love sausages so much that maybe I won't sign for Liverpool
11:31Max Rushden:Well apparently it was a barbecue for players and their families and none of the families turned up because they all wanted to go to the Manchester United barbecue instead right i am i so so we presume he's that goes and it does leave this issue for newcastle we've touched it already you know where they sit in piff's pecking order because you know like it looks like nunez is going to go when nunez is going to go to al-halal or they're certainly in talks and you know they've accepted nunez's wage demands what sort of demands could you have that saudi have saudi league has to meet them because normally the wage offer is quite you've met so You've met my demands.
12:11But it was an interesting position that Newcastle find themselves in.
12:14Max Rushden:Yeah, their fans are really frustrated, and a lot of them are blaming all this on PSR. I would say, look, I don't have any sympathy for them. I think it's hilarious. But I can understand why others might have sympathy for them. But you can either cry about it, or you can challenge these rules by taking legal action. You can ask your owners to stop funding other clubs, like directly or indirectly, like Liverpool or Chelsea, or you can generate more revenue by using the avenues that are available to you that you haven't yet exploited. Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United, Liverpool and Man City, according to the last set of accounts they each released, they spent more wages than Newcastle generated in revenue.
13:03Max Rushden:So Newcastle are constantly going to be playing catch-up. it's going to be very difficult for them to break up this red cartel that their fans get so annoyed about. But there are things they can try to do. And on Tuesday, I suggest, you know, try to be smarter, be more like Brighton. But they don't have a football director. They don't have a chief executive. Eddie Howe seems to be in charge of transfers as well as trying to coach the team. His nephew is involved in some way. I don't really know what that kind of arrangement is. So while they are being hamstrung to an extent by PSR, they are certainly not making life easy for themselves at all.
13:55Max Rushden:And it now looks, if they don't get Sesco, they seem to be, Nicholas Jackson seems to be on the radar, bringing him in from Chelsea. they seem to have a stunning lack of imagination when it comes to recruitment it's just who does everyone else want well we'll go for them as well um but that that's what happens when you don't have a recruitment department that's fit for purpose maybe it's wishful thinking but i just quite like to see newcastle take that kind of hard line barbecue approach to the whole thing and in the sense that as baz said you know it seems like they're sliding down this list of targets you Quite clearly, Nicholas Jackson or whoever may be next isn't number one, wasn't number one, probably wasn't even two or three.
14:40At what point can Newcastle say actually to Alexander Issa, actually, it's just not going to happen this summer. I think he's got three years left on his deal. He's a Newcastle player. Yes, he wants to move. And I suppose ultimately the reality is you can't have a player unhappy. And no doubt there'll be the transfer request, all the bits and pieces that can come down the track. But I just wonder at what point did Newcastle say, this just isn't going to work for us? It felt like maybe Sesco was the one where if we could get him, OK, we'll make it work as long as the price for Isak is right and healthy.
15:17You know, pushing 150 million, huge, huge money. But at what point did Newcastle actually say, well, no, it doesn't work for us. You're our play. You've got, I think, three years left, at least two on your contract. and that's how it is and the reality is that you know he's going to get a move down the line I just wonder I think that would be quite empowering for the club especially in a in a kind of moment in a era as Barry said with these PSR rules where they feel so frustrated that they can't strengthen to actually kind of take a bit of a stance really and they might have to take a hit down the line but as I said maybe it's just wishful thinking because player power kind of rules.
15:53I quite like going full barbecue. I think that's quite a good, it's a nice phrase. Moving on, Villarreal signed Nice striker Evan Gassin for 26 million plus 4.3 million in add-ons. Anyone, brackets Lars, know anything about this guy?
16:08Lars Sivertsen:He's fine. I think that's a perfectly acceptable squad player purchase. He's got, he puts himself about, he's got decent sort of physical attributes. Not an incredible goal scoring record. Scored 12 for Nice last season, but had eight assists as well. And I think like as a squad addition to give it, because of course they haven't really had a good sort of backup option to Ollie Watkins since Durand left for Saudi, have they? They had some loan signings, of course they brought in, but as someone who can take some minutes off of Watkins and be an option, I think that seems kind of sensible. Everton, David Moyes at one point said they needed 10 players.
16:48They're in talks with Jack Grealish, apparently. They've had a bid for Tyler Dibbling rejected from Southampton. They've signed Chelsea's kin and Dewsbury Hall. All bends seem like quite good ideas to me. Yeah, I find Dewsbury Hall a little bit underwhelming, if I'm honest. It's quite a hefty fee. I suppose that's just what the reality is when you look at what Leicester paid for Harry Winks and Oli Skip, who were pretty unremarkable last season. So maybe I think it's£28 million. and maybe that's just what it costs these days for a player of that kind of ranking. But I really like Tyler Dibbling.
17:24I think that is going to be an interesting one. I know for a fact Spurs were deemed to be sort of front of the queue by other clubs who were pursuing him, certainly at the turn of the year. Now we know, obviously, Spurs have gone for Koudis. That would suggest that they probably wouldn't go in for Dibbling this summer. But he has got lots of admirers. I think it's just a case of who actually wants to take the risk and push the button because he had such an amazing start, that little kind of, I'll never forget his debut at home St. Mary's, at home to United. It was just sort of spectacular. And then since then, he hasn't had too many moments, basically since Russell Martin left.
17:59Russell Martin had this great, struck up this great relationship with him. And, you know, I was chatting to Will Steele last week and he was saying, you know, players these days are very different even when he started coaching. And he used Tyler Dibbny as an example and said, you know, he's quite unique. is quite quiet, it's quite reserved and there's nothing wrong with that but we need to manage people differently. So if David Moyes feels that he can be the one to get out of him, I think he'll be a great signing for somebody who can just go and sort of let him off the leash as it were. Sorel says, better signing, Sun to LAFC or Muller to the Vancouver Whitecaps?
18:34Lars, what do you reckon?
18:35Lars Sivertsen:I'm obviously biased in this case but I do think Sun, he's lost a touch of pace which was an issue in the Premier League. He couldn't get away from defenders. as he was struggling to make space for himself to do the things he usually does. I think in MLS, he should still get plenty of shooting opportunities, which is the thing he should still be able to do, right? There's no reason why he can't still hit the ball the way he's been doing. So in the sort of more chaotic world of MLS, I think he can make an impact. But I'm super curious about Miller, right? Because Miller isn't really a kind of player who will pick up the ball and do something incredible on his own.
19:10Lars Sivertsen:He's always someone whose added value has been famously his interpretation of space, famously popping up where you least expect him, which has been very useful for Bayern. I've seen a lot of Bayern games in the Bundesliga where they've had like 65 % possession and they just can't break someone down. And then suddenly Müller finds space out of nowhere and does something. Does that translate to playing for a much worse team that's not going to create as many chances? I don't know. But then again, as I said, the MLS is a little bit chaotic. so maybe his way of like uh finding finding space in the chaos will come to the fore there he's also obviously a great competitor famously very vocal on the field i'm very fascinated to see how that goes again talking about the compilations i'm expecting son to show up you know people people on this on this side of the water very rarely watch mls but we do see like highlights of messy doing stuff and big i think you'll see a fair few like look at this screamer young min son skull last night when you wake up and you log on to X.
20:09Lars Sivertsen:You know, I can see that happening. Very curious about, I'm going to have to watch some Vancouver Whitecaps games going forward, which is not a sentence I've said out loud before, I don't think. Well, watch them and let me know how they go, please. Phil says, has producer Joel done a big ang, given up on the weekly pod with one eye on his performance for the big live show? This is a reference to Tuesday's The Future of Football pod. There was something wrong with the download where my voice came in at the wrong time, repeatedly if you re-download it or resubscribe or turn it on and off again or whatever my voice will be in the right place uh so uh our apologies many people have been fired and uh we'll be back in a second hi this is becca moore for the girls podcast all right a quick shout out to our
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23:12Max Rushden:Well, if it's very serious contract negotiations, it's got to be Winston. I can't say anything yet. We've signed an NDA, but you might be right. Anyway, yeah, go to that website, theguardian.com slash footballweekly. Just find our Instagram, my Instagram, or Guardian Football Weeklys or whatever, and you will come and have a nice time. the championship starts this weekend obviously Leagues 1 and Leagues 2 started last weekend Birmingham-Ipswich on Friday night Ben I mean you obviously cover the AFL in depth for the Guardian it's a great game to start the season isn't it? Yeah it's a blinding game and partly because Birmingham are trying to do what Ipswich did a couple of years ago now in terms of winning back-to-back promotions to the Premier League Birmingham are kind of unashamedly ambitious it's kind of you know it's going to upset a few people I think put a few noses out of joint they really are yeah they're going for it they've signed I think 10 players at the last count that's probably ticking over into 11 or 12 as we speak they've obviously got a load of momentum Chris Davies in his first managerial job had a record breaking season 111 points out of League One I mean it was just far too easy for them but credit to them they're coming up and they want to they want to mix it with the parachute payment teams you know in terms of those teams relegated from the Premier League one of those being Ipswich who I was saying in the week, I feel like they kind of got relegated with a bit more grace than Leicester and Southampton, even though they only won one league game this calendar year, which is, you know, not really loads to get too excited about.
24:45But I just feel like Leicester and Southampton, there's so much else going on. And Ipswich still have probably the core of the team that came up last time. They've got a strong squad and also they've got Kieran McKenna. And I think there's a lot to be said for that consistency. you know this time last year we thought Kieran McKenna was maybe going to Chelsea Manchester United you know have the pick of his clubs so I think the fact he's back in the championship with the team he knows which is probably a better team than he got up last time well it is it is a better team I think they'll be they'll be really fancied as well so yeah Birmingham it's which is a great game to start just be interesting to see which kind of A-listers Birmingham the Birmingham entourage bring with them this time because uh i feel like we're going to see a bit more of that this season we saw last season they brought beckham to the wrexham game and uh yeah there's definitely that kind of stardust around birmingham as i said they got really grand plans but it'd be interesting if they can kind of back it up just so interesting you talk about um you know the bringing the a-listers and i think you know legacy football fans are like god you know this is it's pointless but someone was telling me and and i i hope it's accurate that the rexham do you remember that rexham knots county game i think ben foster saved a penalty that was on tnt that got more viewers than like an average premier league game on tnt but it was a sort of a so what it got some viewers well i mean like you joke but it's still astonishing now that it's not the level of book But actually, the sort of entertainment documentary showbiz part kind of matters in a way that I think intrinsically in my heart makes me sort of bulk a little bit, going that shouldn't be right.
26:26But it does help, right? There's a reason why famous people advertise shit. I guess that's the truth of it. Yeah, I did an interview with Tom Wagner, who's the Birmingham chairman, who's the guy probably coming up with a lot of these ambitious soundbites. He was saying, I don't know, the Wrexham rivalry they've created last year and both clubs on the rise in the American backing. He's like, lots of other clubs want in on that because of that, Max, because of the crude bottom line, basically. There's a clip in the recent documentary that Birmingham have been filming last season where Wagner congratulates the team on victory over Wrexham.
27:06and then he says actually i need to go back upstairs because there's a thousand people up there that i need to spend money on the club and yeah that that's the reality of what we're looking
27:16Lars Sivertsen:and working with it makes me think because i've always kind of said in my opinion i think football is more a soap opera than a sport and i think the popularity of football is more to do with all the storylines around it and all the stuff than what actually happens on the field i've always said that like for throughout and i always felt that's a very clever thing to say and been very happy with myself but then now when i see the clubs that are turned into actual soap operas become as popular as they have and that completely overtaking the actual football i feel like maybe that was not a clever i mean maybe it's true but it's true in a way that i'm no longer comfortable with i think you're right but then if it became a complete soap opera like neighbors it would be better than football so then you know if we go but how far away from that are we really again when people are watching teams from uh from that tier because they they appear in a very slickly produced television show and that's kind of attracting them much more than uh the more sort of the actual sporting drama higher like it it is it's always been this sort of increasingly there is a tug of war between like is this a sport or is this just a content mill and as much as i don't want to be too sarky about it because anyone who goes into a place like Wrexham or a place like Birmingham and contributes something and creates enthusiasm and brings investment I don't think we should look down on that just on principle because I think it's a positive thing but the whole vibe of that thing is there's something that doesn't sit right with me for some reason.
28:41Sure. Well I mean like in Neighbours when they had Bouncer's Dream you know that was when I think Neighbours jumped the shot so in one of the episodes you know if Kyogo Furuhashi has a dream about something and they put that before the game then maybe we'll say that that's when it's gone too far. I mean, he's an interesting signing, Barry, isn't he? I almost corrected you on the last pod where you said they'd signed him from Wren. I was like, no, they've signed him from Celtic because I'd missed an entire part of his career. But it's a brilliant signing for Rahashi, I think. I'd be fascinated to see what he does in the championship.
29:12Max Rushden:Yeah, it's a weird one. I don't really understand what happened there. He left Celtic for Wren in January, signed, I think, a three-year deal, and now he's at Birmingham City. and he didn't really play for Wren. I think he made maybe five or six appearances or something. So Ben might know what happened there. I'm afraid I don't. Just lots of interesting stuff in the championship. I think there's 11 different managers have taken charge of clubs since the end of last season. It's a very unforgiving league, so one presumes that probably six or seven of them will be sacked by January. there's a real high turnover of managers in the championship.
29:54Max Rushden:I was looking at the favorites to win it, the favorites for relegation. Wrexham weren't listed in either. Lots of people saying this is a season of consolidation for them. I have a feeling they might get another promotion. I've said since they got promoted from the National League, I could see them in the Premier League within three or four or five years, four to six years and I wouldn't bet against them making the playoffs, scraping through. And there is zero doubt in my mind that they will be a Premier League team before too long. Snoop Dogg's an investor. He's joined Luka Modric. What a midfield that is, Snoop and Luka.
30:42Luka holds and just says, do what you like. You've got a free roll, Snoop. Very language. Yeah.
30:48Max Rushden:Luca Halls and Snoop for shizzles his nizzle. Well, Ben, of those, I mean, the Wrexham is interesting, right? It's interesting. Keefer Moore signing. They always go for like a big old, you know, does that mean Stephen Fletcher's done his old target man job or could they play Moore and Fletcher? I don't know. Connor Cody in as well. Lewis O 'Brien from Forest. Josh Windass. Yeah, Windass as well. Ryan Hardy. That's good signing, I reckon. Yeah, yeah, totally. So they've made interesting signings. If I had to bracket Wrexham before they signed Kiefer Moore, and not that it should all be about one player, but I do feel that is a significant signing.
31:24I think that's a great signing in that system, in that team. As you say, it feels like we've seen Paul Mullen do his turn, Fletcher, Kiefer Moore, I think will score double figures for Wrexham this season. And I think together with that spine, the new spine they've got this season, potentially Danny Ward, Cody, Lewis O 'Brien, who's probably the pick of their signings. He turned down, could have gone back to Swansea. He's gone to Wrexham. He's basically in the peak of his career. This is a player that got to the playoff final with Huddersfield a few years ago. Forrest then signed him, didn't really use him.
32:00He ended up having a couple of loans, but now I think he's going to be settled again. I think that's a great signing in midfield. Then more up front, I think a few weeks ago, I wouldn't have been as hot on them. I don't think they would go down, but I don't think they would necessarily trouble the top six. But I do think their recent business means they could certainly find themselves looking up rather than down. Marty Sifuentes is in at Leicester. Will Steele in at Southampton. Ruben Selle is in at Sheffield United. Of those appointments, who is best placed, do you think? Well, I think Will Steele is probably the most intriguing appointment.
32:35This is somebody that we've been aware of for a little while because of his track record in France. obviously at 28 um he became i think the youngest coach in europe's top five leagues he's got profile and now it's we haven't seen him in england before he's not actually lived in england before um he's english but he's not really yeah he's not really done it here before apart from managing preston under 14s uh when he was on a college course but i had a bit of time with him last week he's really interesting guy keen to kind of get away from the sense that he was just sort of tapping the space bar on his laptop playing football manager then landed in ligand and then And, you know, here he is.
33:09I think he's done a bit more than that. But he has got a job on his hands because, as always, is the way with these clubs that are relegated from the Premier League. The squad is so bloated. You know, Leicester as well, for example, took 32 players on their pre-season tour to Austria. Southampton, it's the same. There's a lot of people who you think won't be there in September. You know, we've already mentioned Dibbling, many others. But, yeah, I think Will still is interesting. Him and Sifuentes, obviously, are new. and that's why I think Ipswich might be best served just because of that consistency.
33:39But yeah, I think the steal is definitely intriguing. Yeah, Sheffield United, it was a really messy end for Chris Wilder. His sort of January recruitment was ultimately kind of what he paid the price for, made a series of loans and won a big sign in Tom Cannon. None of them really worked. The Sheffield United owners want to push this kind of data-driven recruitment, which has thrown up some left-field signings from Eastern Europe which I don't think Chris Wilder was too enamoured with, but was kind of happy to sit tight to a degree. Ruben Seles presumably has said he will work on that basis. Did a great job at Reading.
34:16We obviously saw him in Southampton, in the Premier League with Southampton. Did a great job with Reading when they were, you know, having all sorts of financial issues. But I do think, I don't know, they've just lost Amarhodzic as well, the big defender who's a big sort of pillar for them. Kiefer Moore, even though, you know, I don't think too many Sheffield United fans would be too disappointing to see him go. But that is two pillars. That's two pillars. I mean, that's the whole thing falling down, isn't it? Yeah. He's got Louis Barry in who would be interesting. He scored loads of goals for Stockport.
34:48But yeah, he went on loan to Hull under Sellers last season and didn't really do it. So it'd be interesting to see if he can perform. But yeah, I'd be more doubtful about Sheffield United, I think. Baz, who else is interested you?
35:03Max Rushden:Well Rob Edwards has taken over at Middlesbrough who have been out of the Premier League for quite some time now and Ryan Mason at West Brom. He's left Spurs where he was Andrew's assistant and he's been at Spurs for quite some time so I'm curious to see how they'll get on. Sheffield Wednesday already look absolutely nailed on for relegation will they even be able to field a team that's going to be interesting to see in a sort of rubbernecking fashion. And yeah, I think Edward Zappara could be interesting. And we don't really have any idea whether Ryan Mason is any good or not as a manager, but we'll find out, I suppose.
35:52And along with Sheffield Wednesday, Ben, who do you think will struggle? Hull. I think Hull and Sheffield Wednesday are both up against a three-window ban in terms of paying fees for players. Both clubs are repealing it, but it remains to be seen if they overturn it. Sheffield Wednesday's actually been turned into four, so that's actually until June 27. So if it wasn't bleak enough already, it certainly is there. As Barry says, I mean, it's been quite a depressing week for Wednesday or weeks. The fans have United, but behind the team, behind the club, they're going to protest. They've sold out the away end.
36:27They're going to protest first five minutes of the game they're planning on not being in their seats basically to kind of give off the impression of what it would look like if Wednesday weren't here. Obviously Barry Bannon has said he'll stay put, not expected to be any problems with registering him because he's a player already there and they will work with the EFL in terms of registering players I understand so it's not a case of they can't add to the squad full stop but it's going to be very tricky because of all the financial reasons and limitations under Chancery, who we are told is trying to sell the club and the EFL are working with him to sell the club.
37:07Here we have another example of an owner who has just got to a point where seemingly he can't fund the club, he can't meet the obligations. There's creditors, HMRC, wages going late, three months running. Fans are turning up to the training ground trying to provide staff with stuff to get them through their day and food and drink. It's not how it should be. And it will be interesting to see what happens beyond Sunday because, yes, they're going to play Sunday, but how long can this go on for? I suppose that's the question and that's the concern, really, because it can't. Yeah. The EFL did release a statement saying a lot of things you said, Ben, that they are in daily contact with the club.
37:51They are engaging with the supporters. they talked about the confidentiality of some of the meetings with the trust that was after that video that we spoke about uh where uh you know one supporter said they weren't really helping at all so the efl are saying that you know they are doing everything in their powers uh to help sheffield wednesday even if the you know some of the supporters don't necessarily see it that way well
38:14Max Rushden:the thing is that they might be doing everything in their powers but their powers are very limited so of course. Anyway, that'll do for part two. Part three will begin by paying tribute to Georges Costa.
38:33Welcome to part three of the Guardian Football Weekly. Some very sad news out of Portugal. Former Porto captain Georges Costa died at the age of 53. He had a cardiac arrest at the club's training centre. He led Porto to Champions League glory under Jose Mourinho in 2004. 2004 it won 50 caps for Portugal spent a season on loan at Charlton in the Premier League in 0102 if you remember he was uh it was him and was it Jonathan Fortune it was Costa Fortune with the uh
39:00Lars Sivertsen:was the centre-back with Luke Young at right back as well so it was the young uh young fish Costa Fortune is what it was yeah yeah no it was wasn't it um yeah there was a really you might have seen Jose Mourinho giving a really emotional press conference when he just said, part of my history that goes, this was Jose Fenevache's press conference head of their game against Feyenoord. Of course, I'm very sad, but I'm here because if he could speak with me now, he would tell me, come on, do your press conference tomorrow, play the game and win, mister. Forget about me. That would be George. So that's what I'm going to do, try to do, do my job today, do my job tomorrow and cry afterwards.
39:38Porto said throughout his life, by throwing on the pitch, George Costa embodied the values that define FC Porto. Dedication, leadership, passion, unshakable spirit of conquest. He left his mark on generations of fans. Yeah, and look, some player, Lars, wasn't he?
39:53Lars Sivertsen:Yeah, no, I mean, he obviously most remembered probably for being part of the defensive back to centre-half pairing with Ricardo Calvario for Jose Mourinho and his Champions League winning Porto team. and the fact that his nicknames were the animal and the tank gives you an idea what kind of defender he was like fully uncompromising it is very odd that he ended up spending a year on loan with Charlton Athletic but that was because he fell out with the coach of Porto at the time and he needed to needed to play football because the World Cup coming up the next summer so he spent a year in South London which I'm sure would have been quite quite an experience for everyone and was just the thing Mourinho also said he was the kind of captain who would as Mourinho called it clear out the trash or something like he was someone who could police the dressing room for you you know he was a man's man an old school captain who you know the coaches general all this sort of stuff and was back at Porto now as a director of football under the presidency of André Villas-Boas so yeah obviously very very sad for him and for his family that he's gone at the age of 53, which is horrible.
41:06Yeah, absolutely. No age at all. Elsewhere, news that former Arsenal-Mitchfielder Thomas Partey, this is the Guardian writing, is poised to join Villarreal's upset fans of the Spanish club. Around 800 have signed a petition urging a halt to what has been described as the darkest day in the club's history. Partey appeared in a London court on Tuesday, charged with five counts of rape relating to two women and a charge of sexual assault against a third woman. The alleged offences said to have taken place in 2021 and 2022 when Partey was playing for Arsenal. He was granted conditional bail on Tuesday.
41:38The chief magistrate said he understood the 32-year-old would soon be moving to Spain. Villarreal have agreed to sign him on a one-year deal with an option to extend by 12 months. Partey's lawyer, Jenny Wiltshire, has said previously that he denies all the charges against him and he welcomed the opportunity to finally clear his name. On the pitch, Rangers, I don't know how many Champions League qualifiers there are. I presume once you'd done one, then you were okay. But they've got another one now against Victoria Pilsen. They won 3-0. Good goals in there, Barry, I thought.
42:07Max Rushden:Yeah. Well, they've already beaten Panathinaikos. They're now 3-0 up against Victoria Pilsen after the first leg. If they win this, they will go into a playoff against RB Salzburg or Club Brugge. And if they win that, they will be in the group stage of the Champions League. Just to clear that up for you, Max. Thank you. But yeah, they've got this young lad called Jaidi Gassima, who has now scored four goals in four games for them. They've all come in the Champions League qualifiers. I thought he got two good, great ones last night. First one was a beauty, nice passing move, in which he latched onto a little weighted through ball into the box and sent one past the keeper just inside the far post, and his second was a lovely header.
42:56Max Rushden:they came either side of a Cyril Dessert penalty. I thought it was a soft penalty or it shouldn't have been a penalty, but they got it anyway. So they're 3-0 up, looking fairly home and hosed, going into the second leg. And I think everyone last night was interested to see who Russell Martin would drop after taking what Chris Sutton described as a machine gun to his team after their opening day draw against Motherwell in the Scottish Premiership. James Tavernier and Nicholas Raskin seemed to have been the ones who had the big finger of blame pointed at them. But after the match, Martin said, look, you can read into what you will, but it's no big deal.
43:45Max Rushden:We're going to have a lot of games. I will pick teams depending on what I feel we need on the pitch and my team, I think they're at home to Dundee on Saturday. And he said, I'll probably pick a different team again when we play Dundee. Obviously, if they don't beat Dundee at Ibrox, all hell is likely to break loose. But once again, Russell has bought himself some more time, which I suspect that's what he'd be doing for a lot of this season. Yeah, possibly. They're also excited about a winger called Ant-Man, which is not Paul Rudd. It is a guy called Oliver Antman who they signed from Go Ahead Ingles.
44:28Also in the Champions League qualifying last night we mentioned Fenerbahce. They lost 2-1 at Feyenoord. Benfica beat Nice away 2-0. And Lars, you were saying it's so interesting that these teams have to play these incredibly important games at such an early stage of the season.
44:41Lars Sivertsen:Yeah, it is mad. But I do understand that in order to have many routes into the Champions League and for it to not be a Super League you do have to have some kind of qualifying stage. It makes sense. but you do end up with a situation where for a lot of these teams it is their most important games of their season like full stop because of the money and the prestige that comes with being in champions league and you get them in early august like it's completely bizarre there's no time to prepare so you get uh benfica beating uh sir jim radcliffe's other team nice uh 2-0 in france in the first leg so bad times for sir jim uh shocked to see dante lining up in defense for knees still he's 41 it's just incredible I mean he made his I think he's been playing senior professional football as he as he as he hit his as he hit his yeah I was thinking about that Max but I decided we're kind of that's for the other pod isn't it I mean we're too good for that sort of thing Dante has been playing professional football since 2002 which is remarkable and he's still there I was looking at the highlights this is like I haven't got the wrong highlights he can't possibly be but there he is um and um yeah Feyenoord beat Fennemacher the only thing I I just want to flag up while we have time from the wacky world of Champions League qualifiers.
45:50Lars Sivertsen:So, Kairat Almaty from Kazakhstan beat Slovan Bratislava 1-0. I had a first leg, Bratislava could turn it around. But I just thought this was remarkable. They scored with a 90th minute injury time penalty put away by their striker, Dastan Satpaev, who is 16 years old. They put up a 16-year-old kid to take a 90th minute penalty in a Champions League qualifier. He was born in August 2008. uh which is a horrendous thought dance like dance had been playing for seven years i mean he was already a grizzled professional also um in in the heart of defense for bratislava as you should know by now is guram kashiya the georgian national team captain who is a who is a football weekly listener if you're listening but i just think he's 38 now if you're a 38 year old center half and you're set to mark a 16 year old it's a bit of a long night of the soul isn't it that like 90 minutes of thinking like am i still i'm still doing this didn't watch the game maybe gurum did a tremendous job i hope you did maybe you guys can turn it around in the second league brian says i'm getting married to nikki on thursday the 7th of august as is today four years to the day after our first date near chelmsford in essex what is my second chance of love at 50 i've listened to you through the rough times of a divorce and through the great times of this new relationship i love listening to you and your various panels of experts brings multiple joys multiple joints of joy to my week, he says.
47:13I've had a vasectomy, so I feel part of the club. I'm also very much aware Barry brings hope and joy to all newlyweds and was hoping he could do the same for us in Thursday's pod. We get married in Bury St. Edmunds on Thursday. Or you could go to Rollerberry and roller skate your way to the reception. Have a reception in the local village in which we bought a house together in January this year. Nicky's not a football fan, quite the opposite, so anything Barry can say to convince her to love the game like I do would be much appreciated. I look forward to hearing the Premier League preview in your pods by the pool in lake garda on our honeymoon i'm jealous love to all regards brian uh so yeah
47:48Max Rushden:brian and nicky barry brian and nicky from chelmersford in essex i've got to say brian's got gleaming white turkey teeth uh a hair transplant he wears trousers that don't quite reach his his ankles no socks a mazda a mazda sports car mazda sports car the house they've is red brick in an estate three bedrooms very nice house it's got those pictures on the wall motivational live love life slogans on them live love life they've got probably a Doberman or an XL bully just from Chelmsford this is absolutely disgraceful discrimination
48:36Lars Sivertsen:Sherlock bands It's their day today.
48:40Max Rushden:I now have an image of Nicky in my head, but it's her special day. It's her day. Brian, not yours. It's Nicky's day. And I hope that they have a lovely day. And who are we thinking Brian supports? It's probably Goon or isn't he? You're a Spurs fan. I have no idea. Yeah. but anyway yeah I hope to have a lovely lovely day and do you think they met on Love Island or no he said I don't think they have they met when he was 46 and I am 46 myself I think the days of me being asked or me applying and accepted to go on Love Island are gone have you tried? I've never tried I think they should have a Love Island for unattractive middle-aged people like me.
49:34Max Rushden:Yes. I think I'd be good on it. There's a lot of sitting around doing nothing. Maybe you would be good. I'm very good at sitting around doing nothing. Yeah, I was going to say that as I said it. Tom says, question for Barry. Any comment on this? It is a graph with the name Barry in the UK going from 1920. It's not a very detailed graph, but 1920s through the 40s, 60s, up to today, and it has not many Barrys. And they're like a sort of normal distribution. about 1965 1970 lots of barrys now into 2025 not many barrys um have you any thoughts barrys you think you as given your profile you could start and you are we waiting for the first barry you know because we've had lots of weddings not a few babies but no one has yet to say we've called our son barry after barry glendening well given the amount of vasectomies that we've had i'm not confident of having too many more babies but if you look at the famous Barry's, Keoghan White, Humphreys Manilow Bonds Bannon Gibb, Sheen Barry John and of course Barry Glendening we may be low on quality or quantity, sorry we may be low on quantity Max but we are very very high on quality I can't disagree and that'll do for today.
50:57Thanks, everybody. Thank you, Ben. Thanks, Max. Thanks, Barry. Thank you. Thank you, Lars. Thank you, Max. Football Weekly is produced by Joel Grove. Our executive producer is Phil Maynard. Back on Monday.
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