Liverpool look limp against Galatasaray and Spurs steal a point at Bodø/Glimt – Football Weekly

15:46Nicky Bandini:He did steal that rugby ball. Yeah, that's true.

15:48Jonathan Wilson:Away days with Paddington. That's the story we've got.

15:51Nicky Bandini:Thomas Frank Barry talked about attitude and mentality and determination. The positive takeaway is get something when being not very good. And the second half against Wolves and pretty much all this game could be filed under that category.

16:05Max Rushden:Yeah, I think they were very lucky in this game because, as Jonathan said, Bodo Glimt should have won at a canter. They missed some terrible sitters, I guess, and missed the penalty. The goal with which, the own goal with which Spurs equalised was a little bit lucky, but it's a good hit and run, I suppose. They've got four points from two games. They should be fine in terms of qualification. If you look at Monaco, Copenhagen, PSG, Slavion Prague, Brüssel, Dortmund, Eichentracht Frankfurt, you'd imagine they'll get the eight or nine points. They'll probably need to make the knockout stages from those games fairly comfortably.

16:50Max Rushden:But I would be concerned with that performance. You're going to a weird place, playing on a weird artificial pitch against a team for whom this is a massive, massive, massive game. So a draw is fine in terms of the result, but the performance wasn't great. They are missing quite a few influential players. Kulisevsky, Mouani, Madison, Solanke, Romero were all out last night. So, yeah, I wouldn't be worried about it particularly. Sure.

17:23Nicky Bandini:I mean, I guess of those missing players, Kulisevsky and Madison are the creative ones, and they're out for a long time. So sort of hoping that Xavi Simmonds can perhaps bring that creativity. The artificial pitch, Wilson, I mean, when you're there, you probably get a much better sense of how stodgy it is or how difficult it is to play on if you don't play on it very often.

17:41Barry Glendenning:I mean, Thomas Frank played that down. He sort of said that he's used to it from Denmark, that it just is what it is. They didn't train on the pitch on Monday that he felt keeping his tactical plans on the Raptors more important than gaining experience of it. To be honest, once the game started, I kind of forgot about it. So I don't think it's that big a... I mean, maybe players would say, no, the ball does come on slightly slower or does skid on slightly more. I don't know. But to sort of a layperson in the stand,

18:09Nicky Bandini:it really wasn't obvious it was making a difference. Sure, not a sandy Astro. The good old days where the ball bounced 300 yards in the sky and you just, all the skin off your knees was ripped off. It wasn't sort of Loftus Road in the 80s.

18:22Barry Glendenning:And I think, yeah, you've got to sort of, I think what's the alternative? Is that a better surface to play football on or a pitch that gets, you know, minus 15 degrees in the winter. And I mean, the weather's actually been really nice here the last couple of days. It's been sort of, I don't know, 10, 15 degrees, quite bright. So I think it probably makes sense for... I wouldn't want to see every Premier League club have an artificial surface, but I think for a glimpse, it makes sense. And it meant that the youth team game, they could play on the same pitch at 11 o 'clock in the morning,

18:53Nicky Bandini:which I think is quite a nice thing for travelling fans

18:55Barry Glendenning:and go and watch that as well.

18:56Nicky Bandini:journalists who don't have enough work to do you can go and watch it uh breaking news we are in the high hundreds of turkish listeners actually so yeah get in touch please um football weekly at theguardian.com and that'll do for part one part two we'll begin with jose marino returning to stanford bridge welcome to part two of the guardian football weekly so chelsea beat benfica one nil uh jose was back i mean he's been back before but i guess it's always a thing when jose is somewhere barney writing marino isn't really a coach these days he's a portable human fame event real time jose marino happening asked once why he didn't seek fame on the literary circuit philip larkin replied that he didn't want to go around pretending to be myself jose well jose is the exact opposite of this and it did feel like producer joel said barry a bit sort of like a an exhibition or a testimony or like he was the manager in soccer raid like it just kept cutting to Jose.

19:52Max Rushden:Yeah, that was very much the narrative in the build up to the game. Jose returns to Stamford Bridge, but it's the eighth time he's returned to Stamford Bridge with four different teams and he's only won once and he lost last night. But I suppose it's not a particularly interesting game and he always makes for good copy. He was being simultaneously a bastion of humility and bigging himself up as he does before the game, talking about how he's still the best manager Chelsea have ever had because he won three league titles. So until someone wins four, he will always be number one. But he did concede that while I helped them become a bigger Chelsea they also helped me to become a bigger Jose.

20:47Max Rushden:It's easy to forget when he's not here all the time that he's done some despicable things while here and elsewhere working as a coach. And he hasn't always been welcomed back to Stamford Bridge, but he was on this occasion. To be honest, the game was pretty grim watching, so it was probably good to have him there. to take some of the attention away from the terrible game. But yeah, once again, he's returned to Stamford Bridge and his team were beaten. I suppose it's slightly ironic. The reason he's Benfica manager is because he was sacked by Fenerbahce for getting knocked out of the Champions League by Benfica.

21:34Max Rushden:So while Fenerbahce didn't get to compete in the competition, he does. Yeah, it wasn't a very good game and it was settled by an own goal when Chelsea and another player sent off, which they're kind of the main talking points of the actual game.

21:49Nicky Bandini:Of those talking points, Nicky, is anything worth discussing? I'm sort of with Barry. I've had it sort of quite hard. And obviously you've got so many screens happening that you're very rarely drawn to this football match.

21:59Jonathan Wilson:I was just wondering if Barry's foreshadowing next move to Chelsea now. So lose to Chelsea, maybe it's like an ongoing sequence. Now, honestly, it's the same as you, obviously, we're all juggling multiple screens. And I found the already discussed Galatasaray, a Liverpool game, quite compelling. So that had a lot of my attention. Then there was interesting stuff happening in other places. And this game did slightly fall by the wayside for attention. But in the end, it's another helpful result for Chelsea in Europe, isn't it? I mean, it's still, of the games they're going to play in this group stage, it's not one of the most straightforward.

22:33Jonathan Wilson:They got the three points and by all accounts, it was fairly comfortable. So it's the ideal way to welcome back a manager who has still got that presence and that, even if he spins it his own ways, has still got that resonance for Chelsea fans. The ideal way to have him back is to get to sing his songs and tell him he's great and then still beat him.

22:50Nicky Bandini:I suppose slightly interestingly, as you didn't tell me off, Wilson, you slightly disagree when I said tactics are cyclical, but the sort of Jose ball is sort of almost coming into fashion again in a way that maybe he can have success being Jose because other people are doing what Jose does.

23:10Barry Glendenning:The more direct football, the greater emphasis on set plays. we now have that plus 10, 15 years of exposure to Pep Ball and that means it's different. It's happening with the knowledge of what has gone before and that makes actually quite a significant difference and Pep Ball ultimately is what Mourinho couldn't cope with. So it's a much more sophisticated version of Jose Ball for want of a much better term that we're seeing now and he's the mark one version. So, yeah, he's a manager. He's clearly shot and has been for 10 years.

23:48Nicky Bandini:That's good news for our Portuguese listeners, which are in the high hundreds. Producer John noting that Cole Palmer's just, every game is in progressively thicker and thicker jackets week to week. He was engulfed by a sleeping bag. It was 15 degrees in southwest London, but he likes a big coat. Where do we want to go to? That means lots of goals elsewhere, Barry. I don't know which one of the goal fests would you like to go to?

24:14Max Rushden:Well, I watched the Cairos Almaty-Real Madrid game in its entirety. It was one of the early ones. So Madrid had to travel all the way to Almaty on the back of that tonking they got from Atletico at the weekend. Cairos Almaty almost scored from the kickoff, which would have made things very interesting indeed. they just punted it long like within 10 seconds as soon as the ball was kicked off their players haired upfield it was quarter backed forward someone got a flick someone else got a header and probably should have scored actually but it headed the ball straight at Thibaut Courtois so that would have been interesting if Kairos Almaty had gone 1-0 up within 10 seconds but they didn't Kylian Mbappe scored a hat-trick in this game.

25:08Max Rushden:Madrid were not great for the first 20-25 minutes, I would say. But once they scored, that was kind of it. The Cairos Almaty goalkeeper gave away a needless penalty, which Mbappe converted. But while it was still 2-0 to Madrid, Cairos Almaty got a penalty. That was overturned, probably correctly. Mbappe got his hat-trick. Kamavinga and Bram Diaz got the other two. It wasn't quite as straightforward as the scoreline suggests, while simultaneously being quite straightforward.

25:40Nicky Bandini:You mentioned Atleti beating them 5-2. They beat Frankfurt 5-1. Impressive for Frankfurt to have a neutral goal difference after winning their first game 5-1, but that's what they have. This is when I learned that Ras Badori was at Atletico Madrid. Hopefully he hasn't been there for 10 years. I mean, that's very impressive, Nicky, for Atleti to hammer Frankfurt. Griezmann getting his 200th for Atleti with an extraordinary mullet as well.

26:03Jonathan Wilson:Just quickly on the Madrid game, because I was catching up on that. This is 18-year-old goalkeeper, of course, isn't there? The Kairat goalkeeper, Cal Mirza, who got thrust in for the first game and was their third choice keeper, wasn't he, at the start of the season? And two successive keeper injuries put him in. He's 18, but looks a young 18 when you see him on the pitch as well. And of course, in that first game against Sporting, he saved a penalty. And for a moment, there was this lovely story about this 18-year-old kid. And I was just thinking of him yesterday, thinking, God, now he's this poor 18-year-old kid who's, yes, he's played two Champions League games.

26:33Jonathan Wilson:He's also got nine goals while it passed him in those two games. Bit of a rough start to that experience. But maybe still one day will be a great story to tell about playing against that Real Madrid team. I don't know. Atletico, super impressive. Really, really strong. I mean, Eintracht are a story all of their own, Eintracht Frankfurt, because they are either scoring five goals or conceding five goals every game from the seams of it. they are absolutely not a strong defensive team, but clearly have some things going for them going forwards. But yeah, Griezmann bossing it. Raspadori moved this summer, Max.

27:10Jonathan Wilson:You don't have to worry, but he's certainly been getting lots of attention in Italy. He's been off to a decent start and people hoping that's going to be good news for the national team.

27:18Max Rushden:Four of Atleti's goals came from crosses and the fifth was a penalty which awarded when a cross was, I think, handled. or something but uh julian alvarez scored with a panenka really good panenka so it was really fun wasn't it ages to win the goalkeeper went down and try still got a hand to it like that's how slow the ball was traveling but wasn't able to keep it out frankfurt you know after beating

27:46Nicky Bandini:galatasaray 5-1 they lost 4-3 to union berlin at the weekend they beat borussia mönchengladbach 6-4 they were 6-0 up i wonder if a team has ever taken their foot off the gas more than that Marseille beat Ajax 4-0. Igor Pacquiao, signed from Feyenoord in the summer for 35 million, scored his first goals for the club. Two good finishes. First was a beautiful flick through. The second, the ball giveaway by David Klassen, who must be 54 by now. So, you know, we can forgive him that. And Marseille, Nicky, are sort of full-deserved. Just never stop.

28:19Jonathan Wilson:I thought the goals were great. Really, really great goals in this game, as you say. It wasn't really like that many close games last night, but there were some really good goals and this one was packed with him. I think this definitely felt like a little bit of a verdict, unfortunately, on where Ajax are at at the moment as well. But yes, full de Zerbi is the right word for it when they are putting those moves together going forward. Really sensational. I thought Pak Chow looked electric in this one.

28:44Nicky Bandini:Bayern 1-5-1 at Paphos. Harry Kane scoring two. Wilson, I've been hearing discussions about, you know, whether Harry Kane should stay. I think his contract is up at the end of 2027, but there is a sort of clause for him to go for 65 million euros at the end of this season if he wants to but it would seem mad for him or them to say this is we've had a nice time let's carry on

29:07Barry Glendenning:or unless you disagree with that depends what he wants i mean if he wants to get the premier league goal scoring record he needs to come back at some point it's probably gonna take him uh two or three years to surpass Shearer you know if that is really what my name is i have no idea if it is I guess to an extent as well, it depends how Bayern do in the Champions League and whether it looks as if they are potential winners or whether the comparatively low level of the Bundesliga means that they're never really going to have a chance. because I can see why you would think, okay, I'm scoring 40 goals a season and winning a Bundesliga title every year, but sort of so what?

29:44Barry Glendenning:It'd be more meaningful to perhaps go back to Tottenham or go to another Premier League club, get that record and maybe have a proper crack at the Champions League.

29:52Nicky Bandini:So, yes, Shearer's on 260, Kane's on 213.

29:55Max Rushden:I think that record is just so bogus, though, because there are so many players who have scored more goals in the top flight than Shearer, but just because they didn't score them in the Premier League.

30:09Barry Glendenning:I mean, Shearer's record, Shearer got some before the Premier League as well, didn't he? I think he's got, in the teens, goals that have happened before that. So all these records are what they are, aren't they? I know what you mean, but equally, the Premier League does serve as a useful shorthand for modern-ish football. And I'm not saying that Dixie Dean wouldn't have scored goals today, but for him to get 60 goals probably was slightly conditioned by the change in the offside law in 1925 and teams not fair. As you'd have known if he'd come to my lecture in Malmo on Monday. Well, how did that go?

30:43Barry Glendenning:It was, I mean, rapturous applause, standing ovations, calls of encore. I said, there are no more changes to the law.

30:51Nicky Bandini:Sorry, just to clarify, did you explain just then what you were doing in Malmo, why you were invited?

30:57Barry Glendenning:I was at the City Archive in Malmö giving a lecture on the 100th anniversary of the change in offside law. You only needed two defenders to play a forward onside rather than three.

31:07Nicky Bandini:Many congratulations. You do wonder as well, would Dixie Dean get the service from James Garner? You know, that's another question, isn't it? Jimmy Greaves, 357. Dixie Dean, 310. Steve Bloomer, 309. Gordon Hodgson, 287. And Alan Shearer, 283. So, yeah, he got 23 more before the Premier League started. But you could just see if Harry Kane really wants that and he goes to Tottenham, he doesn't quite get enough. And then he has to go to West Ham and then he has to go to Leicester. And it's just sort of ebbing down. Finally gets one when he's about 55 years old. Let's do the Italian clubs. Nicky, Atalanta beat Club Rouge 2-1.

31:45Nicky Bandini:Before I go to you, Barry, who's the Atalanta manager?

31:48Max Rushden:I haven't a clue.

31:49Nicky Bandini:Oh, no, it's our friend Ivan Juric, isn't it? He's our friend. You asked me last week. I just wondered if you'd forgotten. I'm disappointed that you just remembered. What did you make of this, Nikki?

32:01Jonathan Wilson:It's obviously not, I suppose, the glamour tie of the round, but it was, I think, an important win for Atlanta, especially from coming from behind. Obviously, they did get knocked out by Brugge last season, so a little bit of clearing that out of the system, a little bit of proving to themselves that they could win in Europe under Juric instead of Gasperini, because it hasn't been a bad start to the season. It's just been a bit of a stop-start start to the season, And I think especially up front, it feels like they're still working out exactly who they are again up front. And Luckman did start this game and that's positive that he's been reintegrated, but wasn't at his usual sharpness.

32:38Jonathan Wilson:So, yeah, I think it was from Atalanta's point of view, probably quite a lifting result. They definitely deserved it by the end. I wasn't sure they did halfway through the game, but they kept plugging at it. and the equaliser was a penalty but the second goal was quite a nice flick on from coming in from the left and then Paslic with the header and I don't know it felt like it felt like one of those goals that meant a lot to the team in that moment and hopefully for them they can carry it forward

33:08Nicky Bandini:Yeah as he felt for the bruise keeper because he when he gives away that penalty because he does really well to get out to a striker's feet and the ball spins away and he thinks oh I've got to do it again but he didn't get it for the second time and gave away the penalty Inter beats Slavia Prague 3-0 and the rest of us will continue to write them off, I presume, despite, you know, their win games in the Champions League.

33:28Jonathan Wilson:Yeah, I don't know where Inter are still under Christian Kivu again, like a team trying to work out exactly who they're trying to be after Simone and Zaghi's gone and there's been some positive signs and some less positive signs. Nice to see Petar Suchic get the start in this one. I thought he played well. Certainly when you've got Turam and Lautaro playing well up front, that's pretty thinking good as attacking partnerships goes. There's a lot in the team that's still to like, but maybe again a team that I'm not quite sure what their identity is at the moment. But yes, they were comfortably, comfortably, even comfortably undersells it.

34:02Jonathan Wilson:They were very, very much better than Slavia last night.

34:05Nicky Bandini:Pass the PSG, probably the game of the night. Tonight, Newcastle go to Union Saint-Logileau. Arsenal play Olympia across Man City at Monaco. We will cover all of those and the rest of the game. In tomorrow's part, and that will be for part two, part three, we'll begin with Nuno's West Ham adventure.

34:28Nicky Bandini:Welcome to part three of the Guardian Football Weekly. So on Monday night, Nuno took West Ham to Everton. They drew one all. Producer Joel said probably a fair result. Barry, I said from the highlights I saw, Everton definitely deserved to win this game. Who do you agree with and who is an idiot?

34:42Max Rushden:I agree with you and producer Joel is an idiot. Yeah, I thought Everton very much left this one behind them, but they do seem a little toothless up front. Beto blows cold a lot more often than he blows hot. I was going to say hot and cold. That suggests it's about 50-50 split. I would say it's more 80 % cold, 20 % hot. He hasn't been playing well this season. Thierno Barry got 20 minutes here, didn't do anything. I suppose the good news for West Ham is they didn't concede from a corner, but they did concede from a cross.

35:22Nicky Bandini:I have to stop you here as a point of correction. Apparently, it still counts as a goal from a corner because it's the same phase of play, according to our mate Seb Hutchison on commentary. Because if a corner came in, it was punch clear. I mean, clearly it's not from a corner, but if we're talking phases of play and for the stats, it will be their eighth conceded from a corner, even though it's not conceded from a corner, if you catch my drift.

35:45Max Rushden:Okay, I will accept that. But anyway, it was a James Garner cross from the left. Mavropanis left Michael Keane completely unmarked and he scored with a decent header. Everton missed quite a lot of chances. Their main tactic is give the ball to Jack Grealish and to a lesser extent give the ball to Ilman Indai and hope one of them does something. The West Ham goal was decent. El-Hajji Malik-Joof, who I think West Ham fans haven't really taken to, he skinned Jake O 'Brien down the left, sending across. It was cleared by Keane and broke to Jarrod Bowen, who did what Jarrod Bowen does, shifted it onto his left foot and curled it inside the far post.

36:34Max Rushden:So it's a good point for West Ham, but I certainly agree with you that Everton were the better team.

36:39Nicky Bandini:Yeah, worth pointing out, Michael Keane gets a massive header on that Bowen finish as well. I mean, it really should be an own goal in my view, even though it's on target. But I mean, it's interesting you say Everton's plan is give it to Grealish. West Ham's plan is sort of give it to Bowen. Wilson, how do you think Nuno will fare at the London Stadium? I mean, I think it's not a very good squad.

37:00Barry Glendenning:So I think whoever's in charge has got problems. I don't know how Nuno will fit in with fans' expectations. that they seem to expect or seem to want more than somebody's going to sit deep and plan the break. But I guess if that, it can be thrilling, I guess, if it's effective. But I fear it's going to be a pretty attritional, difficult season for them, whoever they've got in charge.

37:19Nicky Bandini:You'd have them surviving though, Nicky, now he's there. Holy doors. Hard to say, isn't it? Because the, you know, the promoted sides have done well so far that makes relegation hopefully more interesting.

37:32Jonathan Wilson:Yeah, I think exactly as you say, when you start the season, and I think all of us by default, and not without reason, because financial golf does get bigger and bigger, we just expect the newly promoted sides to drop straight down. And if they're not going to roll over, then that makes everything more complicated. But yeah, I don't know where the line is where I feel like we can start having serious conversations about it, but I feel like it's still not yet. It's six games in. It's not the point to make the universal conclusion. No, that's nice.

37:59Nicky Bandini:I quite like the idea of you deciding when we can have serious conversations. I decide, yeah, you can't decide.

38:04Jonathan Wilson:but I decided. What, 20 games? 15 games? 15 feels a lot more reasonable than six.

38:11Nicky Bandini:Right. So what we were saying, Barry, is just have stupid conversations until then, and then one very serious, po-faced conversation at the end of it all. But what I think probably is true

38:23Barry Glendenning:is that we've got used to, your low 30 spines would keep you up. I think this season it might be 36, 37. And so you're suddenly looking at West Ham or Wolves thinking you still got to get 30 odd more points it's not 20 odd more points it's 30 odd and yeah okay there's 86 games gone there's still 32 games left but you're probably talking about more on the point of game for the rest of the season and that's that's not that easy all right nikki

38:48Nicky Bandini:that sounded like a semi-serious point to me should we accept it or strike it from the podcast okay uh there was a bit of efl last night um which the highlight was chris wilder sent off and booting a ball at a fan, which is slightly overselling it. He was walking off at half-time and he absolutely, I think it was a half volley, but he caught it very well. But he didn't intentionally kick a ball at a fan. He went to check the fan was okay and came back and the referee sent him off. Which I don't know, Barry, maybe that's a letter of the law. Should be a red card, but it seemed a bit like, oh, if you weren't watching ref, you would have just let it go.

39:27Max Rushden:Yeah, it does seem a bit letter of the law-ish. I think there was absolutely no malice whatsoever behind the action. I don't think he even booted the ball in frustration. I think he just saw a ball and went, I'm going to take that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all programmed.

39:45Nicky Bandini:Like when you're in a park and you're desperate for the ball to come to you, it's like, oh, wow, a round ball. I don't get to do this much. I mean, he probably gets quite a lot of opportunities. You're absolutely right. See ball, kick ball.

39:55Barry Glendenning:are we absolutely certain the fan wasn't eating a sandwich that's a good point

39:59Nicky Bandini:it's a very good point he's not a Premier League manager is he at this stage so I think sandwiches are acceptable anyway they lost 2-1 to Southampton perhaps more importantly Sheffield Wednesday with 2-1 up against Birmingham away but Birmingham equalised in the 99th minute agony for Wednesday Leicester drew with Wrexham and Ipswich drew at Bristol City amongst other results finally Callum says Dear Max Barry and Co, I'm an Australian Arsenal and pod fanatic. The pod is a haven for me to unwind from the hustle and bustle of everyday life. We should put that on a poster, shouldn't we? This week, my sister Daisy will get married to her fiancé, Tom.

40:38Nicky Bandini:Tom is a bit of a recluse. He has no social media, is not particularly into sports and the only apps he has on his phone are a plane tracking one and Spotify. I found it difficult to connect with Tom who I'm sure is delighted that you've put all this to favour. but following Andrew's arrival to the Premier League with Spurs I was able to use the Australian influence to convince him to start following the Premier League and listen to the Guardian Football Weekly he's now an avid listener and since last season we've started a tradition where we listen to the pod together two or three times a week I'll go to my sister's place listen to the pod with Tom while we both complete mundane tasks mundane tasks you have to do or just like mundane tasks I'll just count these yogurt pots anyway we both promised that if we ever have vasectomies we'll listen to the pod during the surgery and we'd both likely die of celebrity shock if we were to ever meet Filippo Clare.

41:26Nicky Bandini:The pod has been an integral in developing a lovely bond between my soon-to-be brother-in-law and me and listening together is often the best part of my week. As a result, it would mean the world to both me and I'm sure Tom if Barry could extend his best wishes to Tom and Daisy ahead of their wedding this week. Keep up the great work. Lots of love, Callum. Tom and I will not rest until the Guardian Football Weekly deservedly wins back the FSA Podcast of the Year from the football ramble. uh so yes uh tom and daisy barry please do your business well i'm not sure i can wish

41:55Max Rushden:tom all the best ahead of his wedding days because he sounds like an awful person with no interest beyond pain spotting so i'm not sure why daisy's marrying him he doesn't like sport which i i always find sinister well suspicious if not sinister and he does like looking at airplanes which is also weird. But he must have something going for him if Daisy has decided to spend the rest.

42:27Nicky Bandini:He listens to this three times a week. So he likes this, even if he doesn't like the thing we're talking about. He was kind of strong-armed into listening to this by the sound of things. Are you okay, Tom? Do you need help? Do you actually not want to? Perhaps he hates it. Perhaps he's like, three times a week? I don't want to marry him. I want to marry Daisy. I have no interest in Daisy's brother. and he comes here and I have to listen to this bloody podcast and these idiots talking about this thing I don't like and then this guy sets up boring things for me to do I've got to count the Hoover bags underneath my sink while I have to listen to this podcast so I'd rather do anything else in my life Tom you have our apologies but thanks for adding to our listening numbers Aren't Tom and Daisy

43:08Barry Glendenning:the main protagonists of The Great Gatsby?

43:11Nicky Bandini:They are too aren't they?

43:12Max Rushden:So what does that mean? This is the not so much The Great Gatsby as the very mediocre

43:18Nicky Bandini:cringet.

43:22Nicky Bandini:Anyway, best wishes to you, to Tom and Daisy.

43:27Max Rushden:Oh, by the way, I had to venture to North London on Saturday night for a friend's 50th birthday party. And on my way home on the tube, I was accosted by a young man who wanted to tell me how great he thought the pod was. And I wasn't rude to him, But I wasn't particularly friendly either because, A, I'd had a few, and, B, he caught me completely by surprise. So I didn't really know what to say to him. So I didn't say much at all. Thanks for listening. Yeah, I think I managed to get that out. But I normally try to make more of an effort. I was just sitting there reading my book, and he came over to talk to me.

44:09Max Rushden:So I would like to apologize to him for not being more effusive in my gratitude to him for listening to the pod.

44:18Nicky Bandini:We may have lost him forever. He's probably not even listening to this now, isn't he? You've got to work on that. I don't know. Every listener counts. Anyway, that'll do for today. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, Nicky.

44:28Jonathan Wilson:Thanks.

44:28Nicky Bandini:Thanks, Wilson. Cheers to you. Thank you, Barry. Thanks. Football Weekly is produced by Dolgrove. Our executive producer is Danielle Stevens. We'll be back tomorrow.

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