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24:51Nicky Bandini:Yeah, you're right. And actually, even because the second half was a bit stodgy, you saw people going, well, the first half was half an hour ago. You saw it when Vicario miscontrolled a ball and suddenly all the rage of, if this was a relationship, the towel being left on the floor, suddenly the explosion of energy. That's very well put. Anyway, that'll do for part one. Part two will begin with another victory for Arsenal.

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26:16Nicky Bandini:Welcome to part two of the Guardian Football Weekly so at San Siro Inter 1 Arsenal 3 this Nicky and I suppose it goes back to what you were saying about you know Spurs having a bit of a holiday and it being easier like Arsenal are making this look so easy and as I can't I can't remember the number of times you said Inter are good against everyone else going wow they're not that good yeah Inter are less good than they were last season in my opinion which is ironically they might win a trophy this season which they didn't do last season because they should really win Serie A but they should have won a trophy last season.

26:51They went for everything and won nothing. But this season, I think they probably won't go as far in the Champions League, but they should win domestically. They're an odd team at the moment in tear. There was this expectation that they were at the end of a cycle after getting crushed by Paris Saint-Germain. And then you look at players like Arturo Martinez and Marcus Tremont and go, well, they're not old, so that's not the end of a cycle. And you've got Pio Esposito coming through, who I know Philippe enjoyed last night in his little cameo and and and i think is a really talented player um and then you saw um peto suchich who scored a great goal last night who actually has been very hot and cold since he signed in the summer so i think he's still emerging but he's 22 years old so i don't know the end of the cycle was ever correct but obviously inzaghi's gone they have moved to a different style of football they're more direct um and one thing that was consistent to the end of inzaghi's tenure and is still true now is um they lose all the big games domestically or at least they don't win them they can't beat juventus they can't beat milan they can't beat napoli ever like it's it's the sequence is really long now it's like back to 2024 um and that's in all competitions double figures of games and so you see them come up against a big team like arsenal and even though they did go to the final of the championship last season beating some big teams i almost expect them not to to show their

28:04Nicky Bandini:best because what they've been good at is the flat track bullies a little bit recently yeah a little bit and so in some ways i thought this was actually i thought um from into's point of view despite in the end losing by two goals a performance not without some merits you saw that even against a team like arsenal who are arsenal are a juggernaut right now look i'm i'm a fan i'm always reluctant to to big them up too much but they are they are they are structured to be one of the best teams in europe they've spent the money to be one of the big teams in europe they should be at least in the top four teams in Europe I think at this point probably that's even that might be too too low of an aim given the spend so so Inter I thought were able to scare them at times and it showed that their directness under Kiva which is the new wrinkle could be very effective I also thought they they stole the ball off Arsenal they had a really bad start obviously they went goal down they looked on the ropes but in the rest of that first half they were turning Arsenal over and doing things with it.

29:03So I don't think there was nothing positive here for Inter, but I do think Arsenal were a cut above, despite not having Declan Rice in the starting 11. And I think that speaks to the outrageousness of their depth, frankly, that speaks to the outrageousness of this squad that has been built, well, I was going to say by Arteta, but by the whole club. And I think that there's lots of interesting things to pull out of that, including Gabriel Jesus, I'm sure is going to be one of the first ones you want to talk about. and whether or not he should be starting up front at the weekend.

29:33Nicky Bandini:That question to you, Philippe.

29:35Philippe Auclair:Oh, my goodness. I'm not going to try and second-guess Mikel Arteta about this one because I have to say that the way that Victor Giocares reacted to the fact that Gabriel Jesus scored two goals was pretty exceptional because his own goal is really something else. And only he at Arsenal could score that kind of goals because you need to be extremely strong, physical, goal, being able to actually work with your teammate and also finish. And he did all three. Can I just say one thing before going back to the game? I don't know if I can't cover your point, but isn't it true that the Jesus goals were also, isn't it true that the Jesus goals were also goals you felt like maybe only Jesus could score at Arsenal?

30:15Philippe Auclair:Absolutely. And I'm sure we could say there are goals that Kai Havertz can score and neither of the other two is a much better head of the ball, for example, than either, I think, like Jokka or Esaac and then Jesus. Just one thing I want to add before we go into the detail, Isn't it beautiful to see two teams from great historic clubs play in their normal colours? Both of them for once. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, that was such a beautiful thing to see those two great shirts. My gosh. Anyway, yeah, I really don't know. I mean, you would think that against a central pairing of Maguire and Martinez, right?

30:54Philippe Auclair:You would go for a more mobile centre forward, I would think. because I do think, which means Gabriel Jesus. That's what I would do, but I am not Mikel Arteta. It might be that he thinks, well, Jokaraj had his favour for quite a few games, starting every game, Jesus coming on. This time it was the other way around, which might indicate that he wanted to rest him, perhaps, for the game. I don't know. I really don't know. If he had a straw poll, who would you put? I mean, both options are possible. I would go for Jesus on the strength of what he showed, not just in the goals he scored. Second one was a little bit funny as well.

31:35Philippe Auclair:Not quite a Salenke funny, but quite funny. But also what he contributed to the team as a whole. He looked so sharp. Back to Jesus at his best that we saw, both with Manchester City and Arsenal at the start. So who would you go for? Who would you go for?

31:54Nicky Bandini:Well, that was when we asked, you can't just answer. You can't just answer. You can't in a long way say, who would you go for? Who would you go for? I said Jesus myself, but there you go. I mean, I'm indifferent. I will say. Archie. I think that I would go with Jocares because also I think last night was such a big moment for him. If you look at the kinds of goals that he's scored for Arsenal so far, I think you have to go back to August against Leeds when he truly scored one which is on his own terms. and you've seen it with how sheepish he's been after he scores goals where he kind of feels like well I mean does that really count if I'm two yards from goal and and the fact that it comes from his own brilliance you can kind of see that after he scores in the celebration there's almost a kind of a shock of being like oh wait I'm back this is this is the guy who was at sporting I've rediscovered myself and I think it's also natural by the way that it's taken him this long At Arsenal, he's getting half the chances that he was getting at sporting.

32:57I think of the game against Brighton the other week in December, where he gets a chance after about 90 seconds, and that's his lot for the game. And that's not what he's used to for the past few seasons. and this thing of Arsenal's depth, by the way, it kind of reminds me of, or it reminds me of how Sir Alex Ferguson and United would build squads when they had Cole, York, Sheringham, Solskjaer, not to have enough, but to blow other teams out the water. And this is what Arsenal have this feel about them with right now, where it's not to, we just need to make sure we've got cover It's how can we be stronger than every other team around?

33:43And I think that that is also why, I'm going to say it again, that's why I think they are going to end up with silverware that they really, really want this season, is because of that mentality. And I had the pleasure of seeing them live away at Portsmouth the other week. And seeing how older members of the squad are looking after younger members of the squad at times when you'd think they'll be concentrating on other things. Seeing the way that it was, it was Gabriel going over to Lewis Skelly when Nonny Madiweka had a penalty, just making sure that his role was all okay. And Fratton Park is a place where you can lose your head in the rain and the thunder of the challenges going in.

34:29And just how cool they all looked and no one seemed to bat an eyelid. There is such an unbelievable focus to this Arsenal team right now that is just really quite something to behold.

34:41Philippe Auclair:We shouldn't forget we're also talking about an Arsenal team which has not necessarily been firing on all cylinders recently. So let's not be carried away by a superb performance against Inter. And the one thing which was so noticeable is with Arsenal in almost every game you can tell what it's going to be like in the first 30 seconds. this time you knew it was going to be all right because of the energy with which the pressed enter which is sometimes not present also with the the weight of the passes they were a bit they were fizzing a bit more quickly than usual and there was also another reason for that is that before kickoff they already knew they were through that whatever happened they would be there they wouldn't have to go through those ridiculous playoffs and so forth.

35:35Philippe Auclair:That's it. They were in through the second phase of the Champions League. And intensity goes with relaxation. And Arteta looked phenomenally relaxed. He was smiling on the pitch. He never smiles. Or as we say in French, he smiles when he burns himself. And he and this relaxed attitude is if he can take this one, bottle it up, and pass it on to the team every time it's about to go into the pitch, they'll go far. But that, for me, is going to be the main problem. Yesterday night, they were in the perfect mood, and the perfect mood, which explains why they were able to express themselves so fully.

36:17Philippe Auclair:All the other reasons, by the way, what Archie and Niki talked about, absolutely true. But there was something else about it, which is this relaxation, which they don't always show in other games. I totally agree with that. I do think it's worth saying. Inter went for Arsenal the way that a lot of teams won't. They didn't sit deep and that makes a big difference as well. They gave them chances because they came at them and that's something that's part of it. I also just, this is completely childish, but I really enjoyed Gabriel Jesus giving his interview at the end of the game talking about his all thanks to Jesus.

36:45I'm sorry, his name is Jesus and when he says his all thanks to Jesus it makes me laugh. I'm a child. I'm sorry for that. No, no, fair enough.

36:52Nicky Bandini:When he has the teacher when he has the t-shirt rather it's so good, isn't it? not that you know it needs a real caveat not that one that's me i understand there is a difference anyway uh let's rattle through the other games uh real madrid six monaco one uh all the galacticos having a nice time bapé got two vinicius walloped one into the top uh corner uh bellingham scored late on maybe our below is the vibes man yes philippe there was something i mean first of all

37:18Philippe Auclair:monaco are crap let's let's uh let's be absolutely clear about that okay good it's normal they should beat them but one the one thing i will remember from last night is the way bapé celebrated his goals it was one of the most for the cameras moments on both goals i'll make sure i don't do my ridiculous celebration but i go and and and manifest unity with my great friend vinicius which is the most bollocks that I've seen on the pitch for a while. It's purely for the cameras. It was as spontaneous as a whole Enjoy Ramon's Jeans for people who would have references of a certain time. But they were quite impressive, I have to say.

38:08Philippe Auclair:They were quite impressive. But that's all I had to say, that the show of unity between Vinicius and Mbappé was actually hilarious, I think, in some ways. I know that when you say the phrase processed in Monaco, it throws up quite an interesting image kind of mentally in terms of how that would manifest itself. But there have been, haven't there? What are the locals upset about exactly? About the fact that their team is crap. I mean, apart from that, what do you think? Which is not a talentless team. There have been loads of talk about the manager having to be sacked and the rest of it. It's not a happy place.

38:52Philippe Auclair:It's been such a weird season because if you remember, they actually started quite well if you looked at the results, but they were playing rubbish and it's just not happening. So it was not at all a surprise when I saw, you know, I was watching the other game and I had those goal alerts. And at the fifth minute, I said, goal alert, Real Monaco. I think I know who scored and I know which club scored. And I probably know which player scored because, of course, it is the immutable law of the X. He had to score in Monaco, Kylian, didn't he? A double. So, but yeah, to be honest, I'm Monaco. I'm done with Monaco.

39:33Nicky Bandini:they're just a joke in some ways fine if you're done i'm done uh let's do sporting psg you watch

39:40Philippe Auclair:this as well philippe didn't you yeah uh winning it late on absolutely crazy game in which psg had left not just their shooting boots but their crossing boots their dribbling boots uh in the dressing room at the par de pres i think they still dominated this absolutely outrageously and on another night they might have won by five or six goals but it was one of those where there was always something missing at the conclusion of any action and there were plenty. There were plenty. And it was not a B team by the way. The only player who was perhaps missing whom you would have thought would have been in the starting lineup was Kvarskelia who actually came in and scored an absolute oh, what an absolute beauty of a goal to make it one all.

40:26Philippe Auclair:And sporting, my goodness, they hang on. They defended resolutely, I believe is the adverb to use, and profited from two moments of, I mean, just weakness in the Parisian defense. Lucas Chevalier is not exactly guilt-free on those two. And Suarez scored a double and couldn't quite believe it. Suarez who also got I think you know when players stop other players who are countering and grab hold of their shirt Suarez went one beyond that the way he nearly managed to take the shirt of Quarascalia at the end and got booked for him was absolutely magnificent it took him about 15 yards to stop him as well and the shirt was all over the place and it didn't rip very very good manufacturer obviously but it was a strange one and PSG on other nights should have won Atacanta and in the end they were done by some opportunistic finishing from Suarez and some you know very poor finishing on their own side so they had two goals chalked off as well which you know honestly were chalked off if Wenger had his way they would have been given but we won't go back there

41:43Nicky Bandini:let's not go on to daylight yeah look PSG had they won they'd have definitely been in the top 8 Kopenhagen won Napoli won Napoli have won up and Copenhagen down to 10 men Nicky and Antonio Conte being hopeless in Europe continues you know I haven't bet on sports for a long time but when they were 1-0 up and a red card up if I had been if I had a betting account open somewhere I would have been like I am betting on them not winning this game because it is Antonio Conte in Europe and some way somehow from this perfect position they will find a way not to get that result and lo and behold they found a way heaven knows how because they had buckets of chances, even before the red card, they were making chances.

42:23It's this impossibly repeating story. I mean, Scott McTominay keeps showing up. He scored, I think, four of their six goals in Europe this season. So he's apparently immune to this Conte-ification of their European efforts, but the rest of the team just cannot do it. And they're really, I think, well, I've been saying it for a while, so it's not news to me, but I think they're not going to make it through even to the playoff round because they're 23rd right now um that's before obviously all the Wednesday night games get played and their last game is against Chelsea and I don't see any reason other than perhaps some sort of Conte revenge arc against Chelsea to believe they're suddenly going to fix this odd European malaise where they just even when circumstances fall their way as they really did with that with that start I mean Delaney it was 100 % a red card by the way it's It's a reckless challenge, but to be in that position 1-0 up and playing better already than your opponents and to have him sent off and then score, I don't know how they managed, even having seen it, I don't know how they managed not to win.

43:25They certainly should have won, but it somehow felt entirely inevitable that they would fail to win.

43:30Nicky Bandini:Big win for Ajax at Villarreal. Last-minute winner means they lost their first five, but they've won the last two. So they could squeeze into the playoffs. Olympiacos beat Leverkusen 2-0 and Club Brugge won 4-1 at Kairat. We'll obviously do tonight's games on tomorrow's pod and that'll do for part two. Part three, we'll look back at Monday Night Football and talk about the Dutch boycott or potential boycott or petition to boycott the World Cup in the USA and Canada and Mexico. All in part three.

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44:55Nicky Bandini:Welcome to part three of the Guardian Football Weekly. So on Monday, Brighton and Bournemouth drew 1-1 on a kind of Monday night football you don't have to watch type game. But Philippe, it is worth talking about that overhead kick from Shalalampos Kostoulas in the last minute.

45:12Philippe Auclair:Harampuros, yes. It was an absolutely magnificent occasion. And I have to say, not exactly the kind of goal you would have expected after watching the rest of the game, which was, you know, hard fought enough. Fine, fine, it was fine. But it was not of the highest quality, shall we say that? Considering these are two teams which actually can play very decent football usually. But this was a little bit different because I'm not absolutely sure he meant to place the ball where he did place it. And I think it has to do with the fact that he catches it slightly on the outside of his boot. But this, on the other hand...

45:51Philippe Auclair:If he meant it, it's unbelievable. Unbelievable. It's mental because it's like slicing through the ball when doing a bicycle kick after having chested it first, which is a little bit special, but it is very special in any case. He didn't seem to be too phased out, but it's almost like, yeah, I do that. He seems to be quite sure of himself, this young chap, isn't he? and apparently listening to Louis Dunk at the end he does try those quite regularly in training so there you go it actually worked on this occasion but it was absolutely superb and a goal which perhaps yes a little bit unlike the rest of the game but it was worth persevering with this one just to see this wonderful moment

46:38Nicky Bandini:Archie you're encroaching on your full minute but yeah carry on well I'm going to talk about your Sunday league career of the goals that you scored how many did you really mean to put exactly where they ended up oh yeah some you go I'm trying to get this in the corner you know but I haven't scored many over head kicks it's a shot right and you're hoping to put it in the direction of goal and if it goes in I think all bets are off it's amazing well done doesn't matter exactly where it goes I'm sorry as the custodian of the Sinclair spectrum. It's not quite correct because, you know, if he middles it into the top corner, that's different to sort of slicing it into the top corner.

47:21Nicky Bandini:Anyway, Fulham, one minute. Off you go, Archie. I had the pleasure of seeing four Fulham games in a row live earlier this month. And I ended what had been a 10-game, seven-year winless streak of not having seen us win. And to be honest, the moment I saw Cody Gakpo make it 2-1 for Liverpool in the 94th minute, I thought, I need to stop coming. I am the problem here because we seem to be really good when I'm not here. And then Harrison Reid restored my faith in Fulham. And how, right? And in football, I was like 10 rows up behind the goal. I saw the fire in Harrison Reid's eyes light up. and to see him not know how to celebrate was even better.

48:13To have that followed up by beating Chelsea and seeing Kevin rainbow flick as he tried to waste time. Kevin is a footballer that fascinates me and in that he has such a high ceiling, it's just he doesn't know quite how to get anywhere near there because he's capable of things that no one else can do except he just cannot choose which one to do at the right time. we are very close to Barry's prediction of us finishing 12th. It might well end up there still. But look, the ride has been fun. I still think Marco, I'm worried about Marco Silva leaving. I'm worried about Harry Wilson leaving. But Harry Wilson has also reached new heights that I didn't think he would ever reach.

48:57So yeah, Fulham are in a nice position, competing in every game. And having seen us through all of our Premier League years, that is not something that I'm still entirely used to.

49:09Nicky Bandini:but it's fun. Oh, good. Lovely minute. Paul says, given today's Guardian article suggesting UEFA could lead a World Cup boycott, what are the chances of this actually happening? That's referring to Nick Ames' article yesterday, which said European football leaders are increasingly concerned about Donald Trump's wish to annex Greenland. They've held initial discussions about how sport could respond. The Guardian understands the implications for the World Cup this summer were among the topics raised among 20 football association heads in Budapest on Monday. Talks about the Greenland crisis were held informally on the sidelines of an event organized to celebrate the Hungarian Football Federation's 125th anniversary in the knowledge that a unified European response may be required should Trump seek to escalate the situation.

49:51Nicky Bandini:This is from T, a listener in the States saying, please share my message on your pod. Most of us here in the US are horrified and sickened by what's happening. As a football fan, I'm equally disgusted by FIFA and Infantino. I urge World Cup fans, stay away. I understand why you would want to see your country play, but Gianni and Trump do not deserve your coming here to the US. Make your dollars count, go elsewhere, go to Canada or Mexico and send a message to them both. And Philippe, you wanted to mention a petition to boycott the World Cup that's gained a lot of traction in the Netherlands, over 100 ,000 signatories.

50:21Philippe Auclair:Yeah, that's quite extraordinary. It was only 8 ,000 signatories on Monday. And it was started by a guy called Tim van der Koeken, who is quite famous in the Netherlands, somebody who fights for consumers rights so a bit of a tv personality as well as a writer and but he started this petition which attracted i said about 8 000 signatories to start with on monday and then he took part in a in a tv program a tv debate on monday evening and then the petitioners took off almost immediately and we are now as we speak i've just literally refreshed my screen we are now at 110 476 signature is and i should add that it is only in the netherlands because it is a petition which is sent to the knvb the dutch federation the minister of sports and the premier and the prime minister and it's actually uh in dutch but it's basically boycott head trump world cup so i think you understand what it's about but it's it's a lot and you're wondering if um if it's not going to happened in other countries because here what has been the uh the driving force for the success of this petition at least in its popularity has been also the the the popularity of the person who who started it and there are probably people everywhere um in in europe who feel the same way and uh and there have been other calls for for the boycott i mean i was really struck by what claude le roi said after the uh african cup of nations and you claude le roi one of the heroes of the final because he was one of the with Stadio Mane he's the one who made sure we had a final to end up with he said maybe it would be a good idea to boycott the US World Cup Claude Lorwey is somebody who has universally respected in Africa he's coached so many national teams there he's an African in so many ways and he he said this guy has cut the aid for all our countries let's not give him the World Cup and they're starting to be there is starting to be a movement or rather a conviction and i'm sure you share it and you talked about it with your friends i'm talking about you guys but also who who listened to the guardian football weekly we have this feeling that this world cup something something is going to happen it's not going to happen or we're not going to go or countries are going to boycott it something is wrong and we know what is wrong we know the reason for all that is because of that man and that country we know that but there is for me it has always been at the back of my mind and i do believe that there is a movement which is going to start if there is not a rapid resolution of the tensions that we saw so blatantly exposed in davos again um and which there won't be any slackening of the tension so i'm expecting this petition to do even better I'm expecting other petitions to carry on.

53:25Philippe Auclair:And I'm also expecting and hoping that when the UEFA delegates get together in Brussels on 12th February, they won't be completely deaf to what everybody else is thinking. And to be honest, they might not have a choice because it will be the governments who decide what happens, whatever they say about the independence of football associations. Let's not forget that Denmark is still in the race to qualify for the World Cup. Now, that would be something, wouldn't it?

53:50Nicky Bandini:the moment like we are planning to be there like you know football weekly are planning to partly because if you're if you're not on the west coast of the states you can't we want to watch every game and do a pod every day like you can't that time zone is the one you need to be in i keep saying the cook islands is the same time zone but people aren't listening to me as i sit next to palm trees and i'm you know just sit in the sea watching the game they're worried about the Wi-Fi quality in the Cook Islands. But do you think you'll boycott it, Philippe? What do you think you'll do or do you not know yet?

54:21Philippe Auclair:I think that the situation will have deteriorated to such an extent in the weeks to come that a number of countries will find themselves in a position where taking part in a World Cup in the United States of America becomes an impossibility. That's what I think. And it might be under the shape of a boycott as such. I just have the feeling that things are so bad. I mean, I think like all of you, first thing I do when I wake up is check out the news and wondering what nonsense has been coming from the other side of the Atlantic during the night, what kind of threats have been made. You heard the extraordinary speech that Mark Carney gave at Davos yesterday.

55:06Philippe Auclair:Of course, and they're co-hosts, right? Yes, absolutely. And he talks about a rupture. He doesn't talk about a crisis. He talks about a rupture which has already taken place and a new order being put in place in our relationship with the United States of America. and you look at that and you think it's going to be impossible I mean and okay when you look at the public opinion actually as well the possibility of a boycott was also mentioned by the spokesman on foreign affairs of the CDU that is the party of Chancellor Mertz and maybe maybe Archie you can tell us more about that but there was a in which he envisaged the possibility of a boycott as a weapon used by the European countries to fight against those tariffs and so forth and those threats.

55:58Philippe Auclair:And of course, the threat of annexation of Greenland. But there was a poll done by Bild, 15th and 16th of January, which indicated that already more people were in favor of a boycott than against it in Germany. Bild is an interesting one because they're the biggest tabloids in Germany and And yeah, the closest thing that I think we have to the sun. And for example, like one of the headlines that I saw last night was how bad would the US taking over Greenland really be? Like it's always super provocative in its nature. just to just to add a thought really to what Philippe's saying because I agree with it all my only fear is that football is not really used to doing the right thing nor indeed are are the players involved in it and I think it would be the most powerful thing would be seeing players come on board with this.

57:13And that is where I struggle to see it happening and materialising right now because football players live in their own bubble to such an extent, the majority of them. When it comes to it being taken out of their control by their governments, I'd like to see how that happens. but right now i think my faith in my faith in in the right things happening because of the way that we've reached this point in history has been such a problem uh yeah i i struggle to see i i struggle to find hope that's kind of my issue there's always hope uh somewhere somehow

57:57Nicky Bandini:anyway that'll do for today thank you everybody uh thank you philip thank you thank you archie Jens Petterhaugen and thank you Nicky thanks Max for the weekly it's produced by Joel Grove our executive producer is Danielle Stephens we'll be back tomorrow

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