Nottingham Forest’s return to Europe and a Premier League preview: Football Weekly Extra

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1:01On the panel today, Barry Glendening, hello. Hi, Max. Welcome, Robin Cowan. Good morning, Max. And good morning, Sam Dalling. Good morning, Max. Let's start with the Europa League, because we don't get to do it that often, and Nottingham Forest back in Europe for the first time in a long time. Sam, you watched their draw away at bettors. In the end, not a bad result, even if a late equaliser means Ange is still looking for his first win, but you'd probably take a point, wouldn't you? Yeah, it sounds cliché. naturally they'd have taken a point before the game but I think they were pretty disappointed you could see that at the end they were absolutely brilliant in that first half they really were yeah I know they went behind quite early and there was a bit of talk beforehand about Chris Wood not playing you think oh is it not a game for him given what he's done but Igor Jesus scored a couple of goals and what does he cost 10 million quid from Botafego he scored two versus Swansea last week two last night I think he's putting Chris Wood under pressure they probably should wait they should have scored a third in that first half right Hudson-Odoi and Jesus managed to miss from about a yard out between them I'm not sure who we blame there probably both of them they share it and I think second half Bettis came back into it and that's what quality sides like that do I think Forrest had 30 touches in Bettis's box in the first half and only four in the second but But Forrest under Ange, like, they're already, I know they haven't won, so it sounds a bit weird, and they've also surrendered Leeds three times.

2:29But they're starting to look like the Forrest that a lot of the fans wanted them to be. So it's the whole, the king is dead, long live the king. And last year under Nuno, there was this idea that they could have been a little bit more expansive with their players. And actually, they've started having more possession in the games. It wasn't as frantic, as open as Ange at Tottenham. but they just that you had that the centre-back stepping up and that would never have happened under Nuno I tell you that midfield of Zangare, Luiz and Elliot Anderson like it all never not make me sad seeing how good Elliot Anderson is becoming like he really it's not unrealistic to say he could start at a World Cup for England and there was a run he went on in the box he's it's very simple he's not flashy but he just stepped inside two players like jinxed inside a couple of players and almost set up Jesus for a hat-trick and he is just he ran the game for that first half and they fell away in the second half which will be disappointing but I mean as I said at the start they would have taken it and as you said there's not much chance to watch Europa League because it's a Thursday I don't watch much of it and it's like watching like Premier League years from 2010 to 2025 these couple of games because you look at the lineups like oh Adrian's on the bench Pablo Fornells is involved yeah you've got Anthony and then in the other game we'll talk about later you look at oh pedagree well pedagree is the manager over at bettis and then the other game you go wow arnaltovic ianaccio brendan rogers so that it was a lovely little nostalgia throwback and i know that that wasn't the question directly asked but hopefully i've answered it in some way no no no absolutely i mean such an interesting barry is i think there are probably a lot of people presuming that ang will fail at forest i don't know if that's i don't know if i'm speaking for everybody but because it didn't really work at top but they did win a trophy people all people are waiting for him to fail and they haven't won yet so it's interesting to hear that they are

4:21Max Rushden:you know Forrest are changing quite quickly yeah and he said they would after his first game that defeat at the hands of Arsenal he said they'd have changed before their next game which was the following Wednesday I think I thought they were very impressive last night the way they're getting players forward in a way Forrest didn't really do under Nuno their first goal I thought was wonderful. Hudson-Odois, Inchenko-Anderson, Douglas Luiz and Morgan Gibbs-White were all involved in getting the ball forward and cross the field. At speed, Morgan Gibbs-White sending a lovely low delivery between two defenders to Igor Jesus, who couldn't miss.

5:05Max Rushden:I was quite impressed with them. I thought they did enough to win it. A draw was probably fair, but they do look a completely different proposition. to peak Forrest under Nuno. I thought Nuno was playing more attacking football at the start of this season before he got fired. But the Forrest of last season, this is a completely different ball game they're trying to play. And I would say the early signs are good. They are going to concede goals, so that is going to be an issue. But if they score more than they let in, then that would be okay. Which they haven't managed to do yet. But you don't know.

5:50From small acorns. From very small acorns. The interesting thing, as Sam alluded to, Robert, is Chris Wood, isn't it? Because I don't know if he... Unless he wasn't fully fit. He was on the bench. And Igor Jesus started. And then Arno Calimuendo, another striker that they signed from Rennes, came on for Jesus. And you sort of think the lot of a footballer to be one of the best strikers in the Premier League that season, to now and who knows it might start the weekend so this conversation might be moot but at the moment it's seemingly definitely not first choice under Ange and perhaps not even second well that seems to be the problem that's basically why Nuno isn't there anymore is that he was given a load of players that he didn't really want yeah no it's tough for Chris Wood obviously because he's had such an incredible record but that record was under Nuno so I wonder if he's just gonna sit there wait West Ham in January West Ham in January see where Nuno pops up next and he'll do it you know Harry Redknapp had a lot of those players didn't he was it Cranshaw and a few others who just followed him around they're very different approaches aren't they and yeah it's interesting for Ange Postacoglu I just feel like it's in some ways it's quite a tough gig isn't it because I think most Forest fans would be quite disappointed that Nuno's gone they might be excited by the new approach but it's not actually got them results yet They should have won yesterday.

7:09Looking at that, they had an XG of 3.27, which is enormous, actually. A way European game. It's really impressive, but they didn't put the chances away and allowed Real Betis to get back into it. So, yeah, it's just it's really interesting to see the fans' perception of Ange continues. I think the fact that he has got that trophy obviously helps him from Spurs. but as Sam said they've taken the lead three times they've not they've not hung on so yeah it's yeah as I say it's just getting interesting to see how this goal progresses under Antipo Stokoglu yeah I mean the Europa League is winnable for the English sides that are in it you know it'd be amazing to see him do it again meanwhile Barry Celtic drew one all at Red Star Belgrade and as Sam suggested you know if you'd told me there was a game where Kelechi and Accio opened the scoring and Marco Anatovic equalised I mean I wouldn't have known the game I just wouldn't have had a clue.

8:04And actually, if you'd said it's part of Sound Belgrade, Celtic, I'd have gone, fair enough. Sort of sounds about right, doesn't it?

8:10Max Rushden:Well, I knew Ian Atchow was at Celtic because he was this very underwhelming signing they brought in on a free after failing to get anyone better during the transfer window. And then Adam Eder decided playing for Celtic was beneath him and agitated for a move to Swansea on, I think, deadline day. This was the derby of despair, I suppose, between the former champions who were embarrassed by Paphos in the playoffs, hosting the team that were humbled by the team of former European champions who were humbled by Kairos Almaty. Celtic started with Dazeen Maeda up front. It's well documented as well as Ida going.

8:56Max Rushden:The Ogafura Hashi left them from Birmingham. Jota is out with another knee injury long term and Nicholas Kuhn left as well and they didn't really replace any of those players Mark Warnatovic playing for Red Star that surprised me, I did not know that I think a draw here was probably fair as well Kasper Schmeichel made one sensational save from Bruno Duarte, shot from distance that he somehow tipped onto the woodwork. Arnautovic lashed one into the side netting. Cameron Carter-Vicard has put a good chance wide for Celtic, a header with the goal gaping. He put it wide somehow. There was a winger playing for Celtic, Benjamin Negrain, who I must confess I don't know anything about him.

9:51Max Rushden:I'd never heard of him. I thought he was good, and he teed up Ian Atchow for his goal. Iheanacho missed a couple of good chances. When Iheanacho scored, actually, Joe Hart, who I'm a big admirer of as a pundit, I have to say, off the bat. Yeah, I agree. I think he's very good. Joe Hart said, I told you about Iheanacho. He's ice cool in front of goal. And I'm saying, well, Joe, no. Come on, you're over-egging the pudding a bit there. But he was ice cool on that occasion. took a pop past the feet on the turn and smacked it past Matthias in the Red Star goal. At the end of the game, then Schmeichel had to pull another big save out of the bag and Iheanacho missed a good chance to win it for Celtic.

10:40Max Rushden:But they probably won't be happy enough with the draw. Yeah, it's interesting. Ice cool, isn't it, as a phrase? We think he's probably what room temperature in front of goal, Iheanacho. But then if you're hot in front of goal, that's also good. It's a kind of, it's a weird curve that I haven't really spent any time thinking about until now. In the League Cup, as it was interesting, Robin, that we saw a Newcastle win, Spurs win, Man City win, Arsenal win. It's actually quite how strong these squads are for these sides, because they all made a lot of changes. And yet you look at those teams and you think, blimey, you know, they're not putting Academy, many Academy kids out.

11:15Certainly, you know, Spurs and Arsenal. Yeah, no, I had the exact same thought. not much magic in the cup of dreams this time although it's not the cup of dreams is it it's the cup of fizzy pop this one but um yeah no absolutely i mean particularly arsenal they made nine changes and they still it's ridiculous starting 11 you know the martinelli trossard louis skelly who can't seem to get a game in the premier league califiori's been referred to him ben white has come out from injury saka starting you know it's and then as a of course you know So that's nine changes from the team that drew with Man City.

11:49But still, that is an incredible, strong team. And Eze obviously scored his first goal for Arsenal, really nicely taken. Trossard's second was immaculate. Although I think there were still a few grumbles that they didn't really put the foot down against Port Vale. I think the only little bit of magic wasn't there, and I guess Sam can talk about this, was Andy Cook's goal for Bradford against Newcastle United. Big Newcastle fan. and even though it obviously didn't mean too much in terms of the scoreline, that must have been a great, great moment. But I've got to say, and I know it's the home stadium's prerogative to where you put the away fans.

12:25I absolutely hate that from Newcastle United, that they pop the away fans as far away as possible. And I know it's obviously for their benefit, but I know a lot of people have been there to watch their team and they're up in the gods and they could, you know, if a player scores, they have to kind of look up and point to the fans up there in the top tier. I just, I don't know. I don't know. It's just not a great spectacle for them. As I say, it's obviously Newcastle's, you know, it's for their benefit, but I don't know. I don't like it. And it's not your fault, Sam, but you are the Newcastle representative here.

13:00Yeah, and it's a bit like, say, if you've got a dodgy Zoom stream sometimes, there's a delay between an away team scoring. If I'm sat in my seat in the East stand, I see the ball hit the net and it's like one second, two second. And then suddenly you hear the noise. But yeah, I mean, Cook, what a story, right? Because I don't think he played in the Football League until he was about 27. He's suddenly like been prolific from Bradford. And they're an amazing team. They had this promotion last year, last kick of the game. And they're top of League One. So actually, had this game been the other way around, it would have been fun for the neutral, I reckon.

13:35So he got injured on New Year's Day and he actually had tickets for the Carabao Cup final that Newcastle won, but he couldn't go because he had knee surgery scheduled for that day. So it was a lovely moment for him. Ultimately, it didn't really cost Newcastle anything. Well, it didn't at all. But yeah, it was on the point about rotating. Like it was, again, Eddie Howe did so. And there's an argument to say that, you know, on Football Manager, when you played those like inter-squad games in pre-season, in terms of the side Howe picked at Bournemouth on Sunday and the side last night, it was almost even.

14:11You're going, oh, which one's stronger? Which team would beat which team? And that's unusual for Eddie Howe. It's something that he didn't do last time Newcastle were in the Champions League. And he's going to have to do now. and getting some of those particularly the defenders i mean i'd be interesting to see what he does against arsenal defense wise because tripia didn't play or didn't start last night but yeah willisula gets a couple of goals guimenez comes in and just controls it but he played it at walking pace right and scoring those two goals just before in and around 20 minutes there were some nice little moves and people were like oh why are they playing 90 but actually for them for bruno and joe linton it was played at at walking pace and good to see will I see they get a couple as well the most exciting part of last night's carabao Barry is two of Emil Heskey's sons on the bench for City Jaden and Regan I mean I don't know how many sons he has but two of them came on which is not really a question for you Barry but was just quite interesting to see the Heskey's the spawn of Heskey's doing so well well I some years ago

15:12Max Rushden:went to Emile Heskey's house in Cheshire to do an interview with him and while I was there, Mrs. Heskey was taking I'm going to presume it's those two lads to training and they went to training in a powder blue Bentley. So I look forward to when they break into the first team, hearing the story of the hardship they had to endure as children trying to make it as professional footballers. There was this weird Irish bloke one time who was talking to dad. But Emil had his own sort of rumpus room, Ned Flanders style, in the basement of his house. And he had pool table, fuzzball, loads of his shirts and other people's shirts up on the wall.

16:07Max Rushden:And there was a bar in the corner with loads of sickly, what do you call them? Those sweet shots you drink or students drink. Schnaps. Schnaps and that kind of wicked, that kind of stuff. Aftershocks. Yeah, that kind of thing. Different bottles, all different colors. But a lot of the bottles were almost empty. And I said to Emil, who drinks all that stuff? and he hadn't noticed that they were all almost empty. So I think I may have got his two young sons and their friends in a lot of trouble. So I'd like to apologize for that. Phil Foden's got a nice goal. Played a 1-2 with Divine Mahogany Mukasa in his first appearance for the side.

16:57Savino banged in the other one. Is Mahogany a hard man? Well, it's a good question, to which I don't know the answer. But yes, much harder than his brother Bolsa, of course. Sam, James Trafford playing for City. I mean, you wrote about a million words on him when he was about to sign for Newcastle. Does it pain you to see him not playing for Newcastle and not being even first choice for Man City? Yeah, it pains me, but I feel for him. I largely feel for me because those million words have never yet seen the light of day. And there was a chance if he'd have stayed as City's number one, they might have.

17:27But it's got to be weird for him, right? I've said it on the pod before. Getting games like this is nice, but he went there to be a number one. He's established himself as a number one over the last couple of years. And he went there with the confidence to be City's number one. But his issue is, like, Donnarumma is just so good. Like, he's just a giant. You look at him as a forward, he must think, like, how do I beat this man? And we see it game after game. We've seen it in Europe and we'll see it again. So, yeah, I don't know what Trafford does. Like, does he try and push for a loan? Potentially.

18:00He'll get games at Manchester City. there will be there's enough games for him to play but it's got to be disappointing and am I sad he's not at Newcastle I think he would have been Newcastle's number one for a long time Ramsdale played last night for the first time we sort of forget about him signing on loan I mean Nick Pope's been brilliant at the start of the season and Newcastle aren't conceding goals but I how's very conservative with a lowercase c but I do wonder if Ramsdale might end up as the number one by the end of the season but long term yeah I'd love to have seen Trafford and it may be if he doesn't get games clubs might go back in for him come january of the summer would chelsea not

18:37Max Rushden:be an ideal place for trafford to go because they desperately need a goalkeeper it is a good point well made and i'm perhaps not averse to letting players go to you know rivals i don't know i don't know who are whose rivals given how chelsea and city are going where they might end up but yeah it's a good point fourth round draw uh arsenal brighton grimsey brentford swansea man city at Newcastle Spurs, Wrexham Cardiff, Liverpool Palace, Wolves Chelsea and Wickham Fulham. Those games to be played the week commencing. I don't know, but when they happen, we'll tell you about them and we'll be back in just a second.

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20:33welcome to part two of the guardian football weekly uh so the premier league's back uh two remaining unbeaten sides in the league meet at selhurst park crystal palace unbeaten in 17 i mean i guess robin it's it was hard to count stats that span seasons but perhaps we haven't been quite as glowing about palace as we should have been and okay they've won two and drawn three but you know they did lose Eze before the season started and haven't necessarily replaced him and defensively very solid what chance do you give them against Liverpool I mean a chance definitely I think that's the key they're so so good defensively they are absolutely rock solid they give very little away so it's all quite low scoring um their games quite a few draws as well I just think Oliver Glas knows exactly what he's doing.

21:19And again, it's just such a shame that, again, they've lost a big player. I think that it has halted their attack a bit. Mateta doesn't really have too much to feed off, not as much anyway. So, yeah, I guess Liverpool obviously will be favourites, but I think they'll be given a good game. And, yeah, Glasner's contract is up at the end of the season. He's not going to sign a new one. I think he's a bit fed up with just how Palace are run but that's just how it is isn't it that's just that's their state they will sell their best players and you know obviously Mark Gay will go in the summer so I think yeah they kind of have to succession plan for him as well for the head coach because it sounds like this he's going to stay for the rest of the season but that'll be it Yeah and that would be enormous right for Palace to lose here I mean are we at a stage Barry where we need Liverpool to drop some points well i'm not i mean you don't need i know you i know i knew that's how you'd answer that question of course you're not but you know we want a title race and you know they are now five wins from five and no one else is mounting a spectacular i know it's very early and you know there are only five points they lose an arsenal or tottenham or even bournemouth win and it's two points but still it would be good i think for them to lose a game yeah i suppose it would in in the interest of having a title race, but we are only five games in.

22:46Max Rushden:There's every chance they could drop points away at Palace. And people have... The main concern about Liverpool is that they're winning all these games without playing well. Now, I would argue they played very, very well in going 2-0 up against Everton last Saturday, but then proceeded to play very badly as they try to protect that two-goal lead. So there are vulnerabilities there. It is up to other teams to exploit those vulnerabilities, and as yet, no one's been able to do it. I think Palace could. Yeah, they could. They've had their hand forced, Sam. What a blow. They're going to have to play Alexander Izak because Ekotike is suspended.

23:31Will they be okay? It's really tough, isn't it, when you have to look at that Fred Baer squad and think, oh, who's going to start up front? But yeah, I mean, I know you've probably covered it already, but Katike is a bit of an idiot. I mean, that's the worst red card. That's the worst two bookings. I don't know if they still do fines. Remember, it always used to be like a two-week fine, like Maximo. I don't know if you can still get away with that because players kick off. But I hope he's fined. It's a chance as well, isn't it? Because they both want to play through the middle. I like how Arnie Slott keeps referencing sort of Izak's lack of fitness and not being able to start.

24:07as if it's somebody else's fault other than the player himself's fault. It's like, well, I don't know what you're trying to get at, Arnie, but I'm pretty sure I know why he's not that fit. But anyway, but look, there's a couple of chances he missed where a sharp Alexander Izak would just put away in midweek. And that'll come, and this is a chance. And I think for Eketika, you give Alex Izak, as much as it pains me to even say his name, you give him a go in the side and he gets running. He just becomes undroppable. So I think Palace should worry. But their defence is pretty good, you know. We talked about, you talk about Gay and Lecoyer.

24:43But someone like Chris Richards goes unsung. He's become a very good Premier League defender over the last couple of years. So that back three of Palace, it'll be tested. But they can do it. Their record against Liverpool at home isn't great, actually. But I think it's a bit of a misnomer. They win up at Anfield relatively frequently. But they haven't beaten them down at Celler since the game where Liverpool lost the title all those years ago. But yeah, so a tough one for Palace. They have got Saar back, I think. He's missed three games from a hamstring injury. And that back four of Liverpool's is where they're, I mean, it feels weird to call it a vulnerability because they're in the top of the league, basically, and not dropping points.

25:18But that is their slight vulnerability. Yes, I got in trouble for, I think, the other day for saying Palace have a good record against Liverpool. And someone messaged to say Liverpool have won the last 2 ,000 games at Selhurst Park or something like that. So my apologies. Look, Sam, you've had enough of talking about your former players who are good elsewhere, like Anderson or Izak, or players that almost came to you, but let's talk about your team and the players that are actually there. They play Arsenal at home. What is the sentiment at the moment at St James? It's a mixed one. I think it's been a, like, people feel it's been a very good start despite circumstances and despite the lack of points.

25:55Like, not having a centre-forward in games has cost Newcastle points, right, a couple of times. Anthony Gordon comes back for this one after that silly suspension. how's having to evolve and Newcastle's game plan is essentially go at teams for the first 30 minutes like really properly press them try and scare them and get that early goal or two and if they don't do that they're still not quite sure how to play in games I feel like the Barcelona was a good example they did it for half an hour but they didn't get the goal and that's probably how the PSG game a few years ago would have gone had they not got those early goals and Liverpool was the same Arsenal don't have a good record coming up to Newcastle in the last few years I think they've they've lost the last four we don't know what kind of team how is going to play and it's weird I said it a bit earlier usually you can be pretty sure who's going to play he's very loyal Fabian shares out with concussion and Malik Chow's come in and looked really really good and there's an argument that people like him and Botman and Lewis Hall didn't play in that Champions League game and you're thinking oh i mean it's great we have that depth but are you too loyal eddie the kieran trippier one is interesting because he just looks he's at the very top level and that's what arsenal are barcelona right he just looks a little bit past it and teams are targeting down the right and it's interesting to see how the games evolved because he's probably used to playing against wingers earlier in his career like sterling and right phillips and lennon and now the left wingers they're all kind of like massive inside forwards you know rashford gave him the runaround people like Cunha um I don't know who'll play off the left at Arsenal Martinelli could play there um so it's a very different game so that's the weakness that I think Arsenal will be looking to exploit but it's always a great atmosphere uh Volta Marder will start he's having to manage him the Johan Visser injury is like this basically didn't miss a game for about two decades and has suddenly gone off on international duty and now he's not available so that will annoy how because he likes to bed players in.

27:56It's going to take some time because the attack is very different in terms of its makeup. If Altamardo looks a good player, he's probably not the can-conjure-something-out-of-nothing forward that Isaac still is. And Arsenal defenders will be pretty pleased there's no Isaac because he gave them a torrid time a couple of times last year. On the Arsenal perspective, Robin, I mean, there has been this criticism about whether Arteta is courageous or not. And it was quite interesting after the City game where City were so defensive. and perhaps Arteta wasn't really expecting that, but they didn't do enough to break Man City down and a Man City that aren't quite as good.

28:31That perhaps they need to go into these games and sort of, I don't know, the way Sam suggests Newcastle set up, you're probably smart to be not that courageous for 30 minutes, but it'd be quite interesting to see if Arsenal do go for it. Yeah, but what does go for it mean? This is the thing, because yeah, I think they have struggled to break down teams and Newcastle have an exceptionally good defensive record. this season and yet as I mentioned against Port Vale I think there were again there were sort of grumblings of loads of possession but not too much threat so I mean will he approach it differently I don't think so you know obviously they're going to try and win but you know it's another big game I feel like they've had this sort of super Sunday game haven't they very often early on they've had Liverpool, Anfield, they've had Manchester City and now Newcastle you know they've it's quite a difficult start against teams that are obviously competing for Champions League places I feel very sorry for Noni Madueke, I've got to say, because he had a fantastic start to the season.

29:28He's going to be out for at least a couple of months, it seems, with injury. They should have Odegaard back, though, so he can provide a bit more creativity. So, yeah, I mean, again, it's going to be a really intriguing game. I'm not expecting a very high-scoring game, I would say. I think that, you know, maybe that sort of that result against Man City last season sort of, I don't know, clouded things, you know, that was it 5-1, you know, in that game. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I just don't think realistically you can't do that really against most teams in the Premier League. Yeah. And actually just so, it just does oversimplify things when you decide, and it was my question, so I'm at fault for it, I guess, Barry, to say, look, you know, will you go for it?

30:06Or will, you know, it's not as simple as going for it or shutting up shop. You have to look at what the opposition's doing. And if they, you know, if an opposition comes at you, that means they've got holes behind them. But at the same time, you know, it's not a crime to be cagey at times in football matches. No, absolutely not.