In short
Football Weekly previews World Cup 2026 groups I–L, focusing on who can top each group and the main tactical/selection questions.
Guests
Barry Glendening (football writer/analyst, co-host) and Johnny Lou (co-host). Philippe Auclair joins for Group I discussion. Max is the host/producer voice. Producer Joel appears only in ad reads.
Key claims and notable examples
- France (Group I): attacking talent is “frightening” (Mbappé, Dembélé, Barcola, Griezmann not mentioned; also Cherki/Olise discussed), but midfield/defence are unbalanced. Saliba injury is a concern. France’s front four has only started together once (Nations League semi-final vs Spain, where they were overrun).
- Senegal: strong defence (conceded two in seven at AFCON) plus experienced core (Mané, Koulibaly, Mendy) and youth (Diao, Mbaye, Niai). Needle match vs France; could top group.
- Norway: Haaland-led, top scorers in qualifying; dark-horse momentum despite limited World Cup “know-how” after long absence.
Argentina (Group J)
continuity from 2022 (10 of 11 starters), but hard to gauge form due to “joke friendlies” in recent years; possible early exit/strange results. Austria’s high-energy pressing may struggle in heat.
Portugal (Group K)
squad looks strong, but Ronaldo’s role is the big question; debate over whether Martinez can manage him.
DR Congo
first World Cup in 52 years; tactically disciplined; realistic knockout path via results vs Colombia and Uzbekistan.
Colombia
squad looks older/low-confidence; France dismantled them in a recent example; identity unclear.
Uzbekistan
expected to grind for draws; likely bottom.
England (Group L)
Tuchel’s “method” and tournament calibration; strong midfield and Kane in form. Main concern is heat/conditions (e.g., possible Mexico quarter-final). Croatia likely to finish second; Modrić minutes questioned. Ghana viewed as overhyped and potentially unbalanced. Panama could upset in opener vs Ghana.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWorld Cup Preview: Groups I to L
1:54 to 2:48
Discussion on the World Cup groups I to L and their teams.
“A Group L, how long before teams are in Group Z, knocking it into Row Z.”
In-Depth Look at Group I Teams
2:48 to 6:39
Analysis of Group I teams: France, Senegal, Iraq, and Norway.
“France, managed still by Didier Deschamps.”
Challenges for France's Squad
6:39 to 11:25
Discussion on France's strengths and weaknesses ahead of the tournament.
“We know Zidane is coming in and we know that there is a huge amount of pressure domestically for Deschop to get the most out of this incredible wealth of attacking talent.”
Norway's Qualification and Expectations
11:25 to 14:00
Insights on Norway's team dynamics and their chances in the tournament.
“I was wondering, Philippe, is their match, so they open against France.”
Norway's World Cup Hopes
14:00 to 17:21
Discussion on Norway's chances and team dynamics ahead of the World Cup.
“that many precedents for a team I mean the omens for a team that hasn't competed in the World Cup for so many years and there have been quite a few of these teams over the years.”
Analyzing Group J: Argentina and Allies
17:21 to 21:24
Examination of Group J teams, focusing on Argentina's strengths and challenges.
“Argentina managed by Lionel Scaloni for West Ham fans.”
Algeria and Jordan's Potential Upsets
21:24 to 24:22
Insights into the capabilities of Algeria and Jordan in the World Cup.
“I'm really quite curious to see what this Algerian team is going to do with Petkovic, who is somebody who, talk about big tournament experience, he's got it.”
Portugal's World Cup Prospects
27:14 to 28:01
Analysis of Portugal's team dynamics and potential impact of Ronaldo.
“So Group K, Portugal, DR Congo, Uzbekistan and Colombia.”
Ronaldo's Impact on Portugal's Squad
28:01 to 29:00
Discussing the detrimental influence of Cristiano Ronaldo on Portugal's World Cup chances.
“Cristiano Ronaldo is still hanging around that squad like an eggy fart.”
Assessing Portugal's Talented Squad
29:01 to 30:56
Evaluating the strengths and weaknesses of Portugal's current squad and key players.
“And a slightly smaller question mark, João Felix is obviously still there.”
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Managerial Challenges with Ronaldo
30:57 to 33:35
Exploring the challenges faced by manager Roberto Martinez in handling Ronaldo's influence.
“if Barry says, if he does accept a reduced role or the fact that he's not necessarily going to be the star of this team all of the time.”
Group K Overview: DR Congo, Colombia, and Uzbekistan
33:36 to 36:32
Previewing Group K, including insights on DR Congo, Colombia, and Uzbekistan's team dynamics.
“I include France, certainly, but I also include Spain in that.”
Group L Preview: England's Chances
39:47 to 42:00
Analyzing England's squad and their chances in the World Cup.
“LN England, Croatia, Ghana, Panama, England managed by Thomas Tuchel.”
Analyzing England's World Cup Potential
42:00 to 43:34
Discussion on England's squad and their strengths and weaknesses for the World Cup.
“sense of purpose, almost arrogance to them now.”
Concerns About England's World Cup Performance
43:34 to 45:27
Exploration of concerns regarding England's performance and tournament conditions.
“But otherwise, I'd give them a great chance.”
Tuchel's Impact on England's Squad Selection
45:27 to 47:31
Insight into Thomas Tuchel's squad selections and tactical decisions.
“Perhaps the only thing you would, you know, let's not squabble about that.”
The State of England's Key Players
47:31 to 49:54
Analysis of the physical and mental state of key England players ahead of the World Cup.
“There's no better penalty taker than him around anywhere.”
Croatia and Ghana: Challengers in the Group
49:54 to 53:25
Discussion on Croatia's veteran presence and Ghana's challenges entering the tournament.
“Ted says, at what stage will Croatia get tired?”
Predictions and Dark Horses for the Tournament
53:25 to 55:50
Predictions for the tournament winners and dark horse teams from the hosts.
“I don't think they will make a deep impression on that tournament at all, I'm afraid.”
World Cup Dark Horses
56:01 to 56:43
The panel discusses their predictions for dark horse teams in the World Cup.
“my tactical guess for this one, which could badly backfire, is Spain's Mikel Ollar Zabel.”
England's World Cup Prospects
56:44 to 57:29
A humorous discussion on England's chances in the World Cup and the expected outcomes.
“A round of 16 exit at the hands of Mexico.”
Transcript
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1:53Hello and welcome to the Guardian Football Weekly World Cup previews Group I to L. A Group L, how long before teams are in Group Z, knocking it into Row Z. England and the rest of Group L can wait until the end as we continue alphabetically. Group I, France and their squad, goodness. But a tricky group, Senegal and Norway and a tough old draw for Iraq. All the sides in Group J begin with A, Argentina, Algeria, Austria and Jordan. Okay, three of them do. Group K, Portugal, DR, Congo, Uzbekistan and Colombia. And then Group L, Can Tuchel's boys do it? England, those Croatians, I don't have to say it.
2:26Ghana and Panama. This is the Guardian Football Weekly.
2:37We're previewing these four groups. Johnny Lou, welcome. Hello. Bonjour, ça va, Philippe Auclair. Ça va, mon vieux. And hello, Barry Glendening.
2:45Max Rushden:Bonjour. OK, then, Group I. France, Senegal, Iraq and Norway. France, managed still by Didier Deschamps. Won it, of course, in 98 and 2018. Runners-up last time. Senegal, managed by Papcho. Got to the quarterfinals in 2002, last 16, last time out. Iraq, managed by the Australian Graham Arnold. Best ever is the group stages. And Norway, managed by Sal Solbakken. Got to the round of 16 in 1998. France, then, Philippe. Very good squad, isn't it? Deschamps' fourth World Cup. Has he won you over yet?
3:16Philippe Auclair:No. But he doesn't care because he's won other things. which are far more important than me. I think when you say squad, I think you have to qualify that a little bit because first of all, there's the bad news that William Saliba has on his back and that he might not be available for the first game at least of the World Cup. So that's which is a bit of a pity because he's probably our best, I was going to say, ball playing centre-back. Other than that, it's a team that's very heavily, I mean, when you look at it, it's completely unbalanced By which I mean the attacking potential of it is absolutely frightening.
3:55Philippe Auclair:And the defense can be a bit frightening as well from time to time because it is not very well balanced. And I would also say that our midfield is nowhere as strong as it has been in the past. You know, when you have to rely perhaps on Goloukante at the age of 35 to hold everything together. Chouameni didn't have the greatest of seasons. Rabiot, I don't need to tell you who Rabiot is. but going forward it's true that if you can be embarrassed by riches yeah France is hiding under the carpet because it's just insane even with Hugo Iquitique missing who probably would have been playing probably on the left wing had he been fit but still you know when you've got like some Bappé and Dembele and Barcola and Desiree Dewey who was absolutely brilliant by the way in their last warm-up game.
4:50Philippe Auclair:And Alise. Who starts? Who starts Alise? And Ryan Cherky. Oh, yeah. It's a big problem because, well, it's not a big problem. It will depend the kind of tactical setup that Deschamps uses. You would imagine that there are some players that he will not be able to leave out, and that's Dembélé and Mbappé. And I would say myself, Michael Alise, but I'm not even sure about that. it would be possible perhaps if Kylian accepted to go on the left wing rather than stay in the middle to have a team like you would have Bape Dembele, Douay and Olysee behind them which I have to say I quite like the sound of that and with the possibility of Cherki coming from the bench as a number 10 plus Barcola as a joker and you think that's brilliant so yes it's who do you leave out in attack but I maintain that we do have problems at the back.
5:48Philippe Auclair:Honestly, players like Diotto Upamecano and Ibrahima Konate do not really inspire confidence. Again, had pretty difficult season in the case of Konate. There is still the problem of right back, despite the best, you know, Jules Koundé being very good in some ways, in many ways, in fact. And people were actually saying maybe we should have Warren Zairem Ripling. at that. You know, it's the defence and the midfield, for me, are not as strong as they have been in the past. Attacking-wise, yes, it's probably one of the strongest French team ever on potential on paper. But it's not a balanced team.
6:26Philippe Auclair:And that's why I don't think that France can be seen as the out-out favourite for the competition.
6:34Jonathan Liew:What do you think, Johnny? I think Philippe's right in a lot of ways. I mean, this is... I mean, I think it was a few months ago when they played some dead against Colombia and Deschamps gets asked about bolstering the midfield and he sort of makes a joke about oh he's an I'm an attacking coach now I've been I've been holding back I've been holding them back long enough which is which is nice but it's also the sort of thing coaches start to say when well actually they've got one eye on their legacy you know there's a sort of is it hard to say there's like a Southgate 2024 vibe to all this obviously we know Deschamps is leaving after this tournament.
7:10Jonathan Liew:We know Zidane is coming in and we know that there is a huge amount of pressure domestically for Deschop to get the most out of this incredible wealth of attacking talent. And, you know, I think we got a taste of what that might be like. And this front four that people assume is going to be the first choice front four, Alise, Dembélé, Douay and Mbappe, they've only actually started one game together before, which was the Nations League semi-final against Spain last summer. And if you remember what happened then, they were 4-0 down. They were absolutely overrun. And obviously, you know, a lot of water under the bridge since then.
7:51Jonathan Liew:But I think it just underlines the delicacy of that balance, the delicacy that De Shop actually has struck so well in previous tournaments in providing that firm platform. And now we're in this place where the questions are, how much structure do they actually need? How much freedom should they be given? I think the talent in that squad gets them to quarterfinals, semifinals without too much trouble, actually. They are simply that good and their highest level, the level of football they're capable of playing is so high. But against teams that can really hurt them, that can play against them with genuine freedom and invention, I do wonder whether that defence is going to hold up against really, really elite opposition.
8:42Philippe Auclair:One thing as well is that I think the most fluid and fluent performance I've seen from France recently was in the friendly against Colombia. You know, they went to America, they played Brazil with what I would call the A team. And then he used the A plus B players for the game against Colombia, wearing, by the way, the most magnificent kit And I've seen a French team play in for a very long time, reminiscent of the 1982, you know, legendary team. And they looked fantastic. But anyway, my point being that it was the most fluid and fluent performance. And who was starting? Actually, Cherky and Aglius both started that game.
9:24Philippe Auclair:And they played with a freedom. I mean, one touch football. It was absolutely extraordinary. It was like watching, you know, yeah, one of those 80s team or perhaps a 2000 team as well. And this is when Desiree Duit actually scored his first two goals for France. So, and I left, I finished watching the game thinking, well, I don't know exactly where I stand with this team. Because most of the people I've just seen, one of the players who have been so convincing, would probably not be in the team that will start the tournament in America. so these are choices that Deschamps is going to have to make and I'd like to hope that this being his last tournament for France is going to take the handbrakes off and be perhaps a little bit more I don't know, encourage his players to be a bit more be more Aussie Ardiles, be more Ange Postacoglou yeah, be more Aussie but you know what, I don't think that's going to happen no, Baz below France we presume they'll win the group and then how do you see it?
10:30Max Rushden:I think Senegal will finish second they have a rock solid defence they only conceded two goals in seven games at AFCON which they won then didn't win and now as we've established we don't know whether they might win it again they have a big mix of experience and youth so tournament know-how in the form of Sadio Mane Caledou Koulibaly Idris Aganegui, Edouard Mendy, and then they have a trio of teenagers that have been chucked into the squad. Asana Diao, Ibrahim Mbaye from PSG, and Balzapoto Niai from Bayern Munich. Apologies for the mangled pronunciations. I don't think I've done very well there.
11:18Max Rushden:But I think they are the African team that is most likely to go deep into the tournament, and probably too good to be referred to as dark horses. I was wondering, Philippe, is their match, so they open against France. I think France might not necessarily win that game and could even lose it, but is that a big needle match?
11:39Philippe Auclair:It certainly is. And all the more so that Papatio, the manager, was in the team of the 2002 World Cup. He didn't play against France, But he gave the pass to Henri Camara, the golden goal, which enabled them to go to beat Sweden. But he wasn't that group of players, the Bruno Metsu group of players. So, yes, there is needle. By the way, it's not unpleasant needle. It's just very competitive, shall we say. It's a nice needle, right. It's a nice needle. But I'm not absolutely sure that France will finish top of that group at all. And when I see that group, I really regret the fact that the eight best placed third teams will go through.
12:27Philippe Auclair:Because if it were only two out of four, this group would be absolutely monstrous. Senegal are really, really, really tough. And when you've got a front line with Ndiaye, Jackson and Mane, and you realize that's not even what they're the strongest. But as Barry said rightly, their defence, which is just crazy. And we've seen as well, you know, what they did in the AFCON. They're basically with Morocco, the best African team. And that's saying a lot. So I would say Senegal, I've got a chance. And they've got a chance to top that group if they start well against front. Absolutely. And as well, Johnny, you've got Norway, who do have Haaland, supported by Soorloth and Strand Larsen, big man, big man, big man, with, you know, Odegaard behind them.
13:16Like, they are a top-heavy team. Lars mentioned it the other day, but that is not a team you want to play against particularly.
13:23Jonathan Liew:No, absolutely not. I mean, I think a lot of people are talking them up as dark horses. The famous tournament, Dark Horse, which is probably putting the kiss of death on them. But they were the top scorers in qualifying. We know what they did. The way they tore Italy apart in qualifying was frightening. So this is a squad that obviously marshalled and led by Haaland and the threat he creates goes into this tournament with a huge amount of hope and quite a bit of expectation actually. There are not actually that many precedents for a team I mean the omens for a team that hasn't competed in the World Cup for so many years and there have been quite a few of these teams over the years.
14:11Jonathan Liew:I remember Peru coming in really fancied in 2018, Canada as well. There aren't that many precedents for a team coming back to the World Cup after such a long layoff and doing well. Turkey in 2002, you'd say, is perhaps the only real outlier. But generally, the tournament know-how is such a huge deal. And you wonder that if Norway get to a big knockout game or whether that lack of tournament know-how is going to derail them. But they do have so much talent, Odegaard and Sander Berger and Noosa and Oskar Bob as well. It's a really, really, really stacked team.
14:53Philippe Auclair:I have to, well, confession, I'm speaking to you from Oslo. So where Norway beat Sweden last night. It's your Nobel Prize, finally. I have actually been put up in the hotel where the Nobel Prizes stay, which I could not afford if I was not invited to that conference. But there you go. In any case, more importantly, Norway beat Sweden last night. It was basically their farewell game before they flew off to the World Cup. And they left Martin Udyord on the bench, obviously. Erling Holland didn't play there, but Strand Larsson scored two. And Norway were really good, very, very good. And what really is impressive is that how relaxed they seem to be.
15:37Philippe Auclair:You know, even in this country where people are very critical towards football, as you know, Norwegian fans have got very strong views about the World Cup. I've got very strong views about sports washing and all this sort of thing. But they really, that team is really provoked an output of, I don't know, enthusiasm. which is quite remarkable and which doesn't seem to have got to them at all. They seem to be totally relaxed in that role. And they are. Well, okay, are they dark horses? I don't know. Are they a little bit not as light as other horses? Probably. But there is a really wonderful dynamic and momentum behind them right now.
16:24Philippe Auclair:And I think they're more balanced and more complete that perhaps they're given credit for. or not given credit for. But as a word on Iraq, I mean, the scenes in Baghdad when they qualified were quite unbelievable. Australian Graham Arnold, the manager, but they've been given quite a tough little draw here.
16:39Max Rushden:That's for sure. And I think, weirdly, if they can get a result, it's unlikely. This could be one of the groups where Thoreau doesn't go through, which would be remarkable because when you look at it on the face of it, you just go, oh, well, it's going with France, Senegal, Norway through. But Iraq, it's their first World Cup for 40 years. They beat Bolivia in an intercontinental playoff to get to it. Graham Arnold is a good coach. They've got this awful draw. I reckon they would be happy with a point. A win would be excellent and could really put the cat among the pigeons and getting out of the group would be the stuff of their absolute dreams.
17:20But it seems so unlikely. Group J then. Argentina, Algeria, Austria and Jordan. Argentina managed by Lionel Scaloni for West Ham fans. Won it in 78-86 and, of course, last time out, 2022. Algeria managed by Vladimir Petkovic. Best ever is the round of 16 in 2014. Austria, that's where Ralf Rannick is, came third in 1954. And Jamal Salami manages Jordan, their first appearance at the World Cup. This journey seems like a pleasant draw for Argentina.
17:54Jonathan Liew:Yeah, it is, actually. Which is, I think, quite a good thing for them because we saw how slowly they started four years ago where Saudi Arabia, let's be real, almost put them out in the first weekend. And Argentina, they spent the last two or three years playing quite a lot of what I'd call joke friendlies. They've been playing teams like Australia and Beijing and Indonesia and Puerto Rico. So basically what they've done is they've tried to take their most bankable asset on like a US tour. It's basically like a Springsteen tour. They've been trying to play every city in the US. And they've been taking them to New Haven and Sacramento and Fort Worth, whatever.
18:42Jonathan Liew:And it creates a bit of an issue, really, because first of all, it's allowed them to sweat their most bankable asset, the most famous player in the world and pretend they're acclimatising for the World Cup. But it's hard to see any point where they've been remotely tested in any of these friendlies, which makes it kind of hard to gauge where they are as a team. You know, the spine of it, the continuity from four years ago, I think 10 of the 11 started, basically everyone except Di Maria from the 2022 final is in this squad. So obviously, you know, Scaloni's gone for continuity there. and this is essentially a squad that's four years older.
19:20Jonathan Liew:Martinez is four years older. Messi is four years older. Talia Fico is four years older. I saw a clip, you know, like a couple of months ago of Otamendi, who may well start for them in central defence, getting put on the floor for Benfica by some teenager called Oskar Piacevsky and looking like every day of his 38 years. Yeah, essentially. And he's 38 years old. Otamendi is 38 years old and he could end up starting in central defence for the defending champions. So the formula, I think, is pretty clear that they're going to use their nous and they're going to use their platform and their stability to suffer and sweat and take teams to the places they don't want to go.
20:05Jonathan Liew:But it's really hard to gauge what their highest level is because we haven't really seen them play at a high level, arguably since the last Copa America. Yeah, and I wonder, Baz, will Messi become an issue like Ronaldo? He can't play like Messi used to play, but he isn't Ronaldo.
20:29Max Rushden:I don't think he's as petulant and self-indulgent as Cristiano Ronaldo is. That is a high bar. Yeah. He will need to have his minutes managed. He will need Julian Alvarez and Latoro Martinez to help him out and step up, take some of the weight off his shoulders. This Argentina team, as Johnny said, the continuity is strong, but there's a real end of an era feel about this. I have a feeling they might not do very well, but they're obviously in with a shout. They're nowhere near the runaway favorites they were last time, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had a very early exit.
21:13Philippe Auclair:I wouldn't be surprised if there were a couple of very strange results in that group, to be honest. I think it looks like Argentina and three others, but I think it's a bit more unpredictable than that. I'm really quite curious to see what this Algerian team is going to do with Petkovic, who is somebody who, talk about big tournament experience, he's got it. You look at some of that Algerian squad, and still captain Barry Admares, by the way, there are some absolutely terrific players. And I mean absolutely terrific players. And I really don't know what exactly to expect of them. For me, they're a bit of an unknown quantity.
21:51Philippe Auclair:And also, I look at this Jordanian team, and I know everybody's going to laugh at them. But have a look at what they did at the end of last year in the Arab Cup. They were absolutely fantastic. they were only beaten in extra time by morocco after beating saudi arabia and egypt who are two powerhouses they had a fantastic tournament that was just a few months ago and we have very we don't know those players i mean uh apart from uh perhaps there's one who plays for ibswich town or who is on the ibswich town books which is not quite the same thing as playing for ibswich town Sure. But yes, but they are a team that could surprise people.
22:32Philippe Auclair:And this group for me looks like I don't really know what's going to happen, which is one thing to look forward to. And I do think as well that this Argentinian team doesn't fill me with utmost confidence, to be honest. Johnny, you go with that?
22:47Jonathan Liew:I think so. I mean, obviously you look at Jordan as the kind of, you know, the outsiders. Algeria, like we say, they actually have a good predigree. They have a good squad. Austria are the team that can really hurt them. We know how they're going to play under Ralf Ragnik. And that game against Argentina, the Argentina-Austria game in Dallas at noon local time, has real kind of epic potential. You know, they've got Marco Anatovic in what's almost certainly going to be his last tournament. They've got all of the guys like, you know, Marcel Sabitzer and Conrad Leimer and Kevin Danso. And so if they can adapt, if Austria can adapt their style of play to the conditions that they're going to face this summer, and they won't be able to play their incredibly high energy, high pressing style.
23:39Jonathan Liew:They won't be able to sort of press high and play like and run like demons for 90 minutes. If they can adapt, I think they have a squad that potentially could top the group, but certainly could bloody the noses of one of the tournament favourites.
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23:57Max Rushden:Well, just one thing about Algeria. They have to cover almost 5 ,000 kilometres, jump in two town zones in their three qualifying games, which is, I think, well over twice the distance anyone else has to travel. I don't know if that'll be an issue in these days of luxury, first-class private planes and whatnot, but it is possibly worth noting. Also, Austria. Paul Weiner from PSV and Kearney Chukwameka, Borussia Dortmund, ex-Aston Villa and Chelsea, they've just declared for Austria, having previously played underage football for Germany and England, respectively. Interesting. And that'll do for part one.
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27:13Welcome to part two of the Guardian Football Weekly. So Group K, Portugal, DR Congo, Uzbekistan and Colombia. Portugal managed by Cristiano, managed by Roberto Martinez, came third in 1966. Last time I got to the quarterfinals, DR Congo managed by Sebastián Desabare, best in the group stage of Zaire in 1974. Uzbekistan, managed by Fabio Cannavaro. That's where he is. And Colombia, managed by Nestor Lorenzo, got to the quarterfinals in 2014 and the round of 16 last time they were in the tournament. Portugal then. Baz, they do look so strong, don't they? Was it Mark Langdon predicting they might win the whole thing?
27:56Max Rushden:Yeah, they look brilliant. Their squad looks absolutely formidable. But, and it's the massive obvious but, but there's no getting around it. Cristiano Ronaldo is still hanging around that squad like an eggy fart. And I just think his presence is incredibly damaging. Roberto Martinez keeps picking him. I don't know why. I guess he's having pressure put on him by both Cristiano Ronaldo and the Portuguese FA because he must know. He must know that the presence of this man, this monstrous ego is detrimental to the squad. Now, in the very unlikely event that someone can sit Cristiano Ronaldo down and say, mate, you're going to be a fringe player.
28:42Max Rushden:Just get behind the lads. You will get minutes. There's no reason why they couldn't go and win this tournament. On paper, their squad is as good as any other, I think. But, yeah, that's the massive, massive question mark over this squad. Yeah, and you look at the rest of it. you know, Bruno Fernandes, Vettinia. And a slightly smaller question mark, João Felix is obviously still there. Which João Felix turns up? The prolific João Felix or the João Felix that looks like he's never played football before. And you look at their squad, Johnny, Vettinia, João Neves, Rappo Leveilleau, Bernardo Silva, Mendes, etc., etc.
29:24Do you go along with Barry's assessment?
29:26Jonathan Liew:Look, I've had so much fun with Cristiano Ronaldo at tournaments over the last few years. I remember when he got dropped against Switzerland four years ago, I took great pleasure in writing a sidebar from the game that didn't mention him once. It was all about Gonzalo Ramos. And then finally, Portugal bring on their big man at the end and Rafael Leal gets his goal. So, and then a couple of years ago, I wrote, you know, when they went out to France, I wrote about, I call him the chain-wrapped anvil that will bring them all down. And I think that's basically the popular view these days outside Portugal.
30:11Jonathan Liew:I actually, weirdly, I believe it a little bit less than I used to. First of all, you have the Nations League finals last summer, where Ronaldo does play a big part. He scores against Spain in the final. He scores the winner against Germany in the semi-final. The goal against Germany comes from a fierce Ronaldo press, which I didn't think he possessed anymore. Don't tell Wilson. I know, but if you watch the goal, if you go back a few phases, Ronaldo charges down the keeper and they win back possession. I think he is prepared to knuckle down a little bit. He's sharing the free kick duties at Al Nasser with Joao Felix.
30:54Jonathan Liew:which I think is a good sign. And I think if he does, if Barry says, if he does accept a reduced role or the fact that he's not necessarily going to be the star of this team all of the time. And there are kind of signs that that is happening, that he sort of recognised that this might, this is probably, you can never say certainly, this is probably his last World Cup. And whether there's this kind of messy effect where everyone else says, let's win this one, let's run like bastards to win this one for him which is kind of a mad reason to want to win a World Cup from an outside perspective but does kind of have a weird internal logic to it and the other factor is who does play up front if Ronaldo doesn't because obviously we're talking about the talent that's stacked in every other area of the team but if it comes down to it do you really want Gonzalo Ramos has had a nothing kind of season at PSG, Joao Felix obviously You know, Rafael Liao's international scoring record is terrible.
31:58Jonathan Liew:Ronaldo will have a role to play. And, you know, when it comes to, you know, marshalling that 6 to 18 yard, you know, area, there's actually nobody, nobody you'd want, few players you'd want more in that position.
32:14Philippe Auclair:It's amazing. Well, it's amazing. I'm listening to Johnny. I think that everything I thought before we started this preview is wrong. You sound very convincing, John. I convinced myself. I mean, you know, we've all got this kind of orthodoxy now. I do think that Gonzalo Ramos would be a better option than Cristiano Ronaldo, this being said. You know, like climbing down from that little cloud. The other thing, part of the problem for me is the fact that I don't think that they've got the manager who is going to deal with that question particularly well. When you've got a manager who hates confrontation, absolutely hates it, even more than you, Max, which is saying something, he hates to put, you know, I love confrontation.
32:58Yeah, yeah, you do.
33:02Philippe Auclair:He is more than a diplomat. He's a bit of a Pollyanna, really. So therefore, he's not going to address this. He's always going to be able to fall back on, well, look at Ronaldo's international record. Look how important he's been in the recent past with us and so forth. And then what the other players think about Cristiano Ronaldo, actually, I don't think anybody knows. Because I don't think anybody would dare to say anything in Portugal about the great man. Because you would immediately find yourself being ostracized. On the other hand, if you're talking about great squad, this is the most balanced, most complete squad of them all.
33:41Philippe Auclair:I include France, certainly, but I also include Spain in that. It's by far from one end of the pitch to the next, the most balanced. And the midfield is just insane. Really insane. And actually, Barry, the group looks friendly, doesn't it?
33:57Max Rushden:Yeah. Yeah, so DR Congo are in the group managed by Sebastian De Sabe. It's their first World Cup in 52 years. Obviously, DR Congo, massively populated country, but it's a constant conflict there. Most of their players are born in Europe. They've got Arnavan Bissak, Axel Toon Sebi, Johan Wisse, who has not had a good season by any standards since he's moved to Newcastle. They're a resilient team. They're tactically disciplined. I think much of their realistic part of the knockout involves getting a result against Colombia in the second game and then beating Uzbekistan. And I don't think that's out of the question.
34:47Max Rushden:Oh, they also have Sunderland's Arthur Masawaku. Any thoughts, Johnny, on Colombia or Uzbekistan?
34:54Jonathan Liew:Yeah, I mean, Colombia, Yeah, about a couple of years ago went on this incredible run. Between about 23 and 24, they beat Spain, they beat Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Chile, I think maybe Mexico. They reached the final of the Copa America. And at that point, you say, this is actually a legitimate contender. And what has happened to them since then, I don't really know. But I saw highlights of that France game where basically a first string Colombia gets destroyed by a second string France. And it's really clear something's gone quite awry in that team. They're not taking John Duran. John Duran, I think, is one of those guys who's really sad.
35:45Jonathan Liew:He's just kind of lost all kind of appetite for the game. and so you know they they decided they couldn't take him they won a training camp in Spain they decided they couldn't take him and what you have left is a team based around James Rodriguez who might even retire at the end of this tournament he was 34 and a mixture of I think players who are a little bit past their peak you know the guys like Yeri Mina and and Luis Diaz who has been brilliant for Bayern this season, but is 29 and has played a full club season at high intensity. So, you know, it's a team that's low on confidence and maybe not entirely sure of their best starting XI, maybe not even entirely sure what their identity is anymore.
36:30Jonathan Liew:So I think for the other two teams in this group, it could be kind of chaos. I'm really looking forward to this group because I don't think Colombia are going to perform like people are expecting them to. and DR Congo and Uzbekistan are the sort of teams that can create a lot of chaos in that group. Whoever wins this group gets a lot easier run or draw, basically.
36:52Max Rushden:Brackage, I think, is the word we're using these days, isn't it?
36:55Philippe Auclair:Yeah, I mean, just to carry from what Johnny was saying about Colombia, if you look at that squad, it's old. It's very old. There are only two players under the age of 25 in it, which is very old, especially in modern football, and relying on players who've got tons of experience but who are on the wrong side of 30 for the most part. So, and I was also struck by how easily France dismantled them. So they were not probably famous last words, but this could be a pretty tough World Cup for Colombian supporters is the way I would put it. And finally, Barry, Uzbekistan. Beyond Fabio Cannavaro, what have you got for us?
37:43Max Rushden:Well, he was appointed after they qualified. Uzbekistan have a history of glorious failures and near misses when it comes to qualifying for the World Cup. They're at this one. Abdukadur Kushinov, Man City defender, is obviously their best-known player. They're expected to be a tough watch, trying to grind out draws and nick goals on the break. but it would be a surprise if they finished anywhere other than bottom. All right, that'll do for Group K. We will finish our previews with Group L at England. Hi, Pod fans. Max here. Barry's here too. Hello. Football Weekly is supported by Gradient FC. Now, Barry, we've talked a lot on the pod about football analytics, XG and all that and all those Pod fans who are deep into football analytics will probably already know Gradient Sports.
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39:46Welcome to part three of the Guardian Football Weekly Group. LN England, Croatia, Ghana, Panama, England managed by Thomas Tuchel. The best they've ever done is they won it actually in 1966. got to the quarterfinals last time. Harry Kane putting that penalty over the bar against France. Croatia, managed by Zlatko Dalic, runners-up in 2018, came third last time. They're indefatigable, aren't they? Gardner, managed by Carlos Quiros, got to the quarterfinals in 2010. Of course they did. We all remember that game. Not at the group stages last time. And Panama, managed by Thomas Christensen, have been there once before 2018.
40:23Let's start with England then. David says, is this the most settled starting XI England I've had going into a World Cup? What do you think, Johnny?
40:33Jonathan Liew:Yeah, people keep moving the goalposts on England, don't they?
40:39Jonathan Liew:2018, the wrap on England is that they always underperform at tournaments. 2018, you've reached the semi-finals. Oh, but you didn't play anyone. You didn't play anyone good. So you've never beaten anyone good. You lose to the first big nation you come up against. Euros, 20-21, they beat Germany. they reach the final yeah yeah but you're on home soil you know you can't you know you can't really and and it's this sort of thing where nations become bad by virtue of having been beaten by england so 2022 they play brilliantly against france in the quarterfinals and they're a penalty kick away from potentially going all the way there uh i yeah but you know you've fallen short again and um and then euro 2024 they reach the final like very unlikely oh yeah but um you know you Again, you didn't beat anyone good because, you know, Netherlands aren't a big footballing nation anymore.
41:30Jonathan Liew:And also you play terribly. It basically comes down to this, isn't it? If they win, then the whole thing is, you know, the whole project almost is vindicated. And I think I've talked myself into this. I think they will. And I think because when I'm looking at teams going into a national tournament, I'm always asking what's their motivation? What's their greater purpose? What is their why? and it's kind of struck me with England that there's a real kind of purpose, sense of purpose, almost arrogance to them now. We are the best league in the world. We are the, you know, the centre of the footballing universe and now's the time to prove it.
42:09Jonathan Liew:They have, you know, maybe not the best squad in terms of talent, but I really love the way that Tuchel has plotted out every area of the pitch and every kind of possible scenario that he's picked a squad that is calibrated to the demands of a tournament. They know how to keep the ball now. They're pretty good at keeping the ball to the point where people start saying it gets boring, but they have the highest possession of European qualifying, which is going to be crucial in the heat. Declan Rice and Elliot Anderson and Drew Bellingham, if he starts, one of the best midfields in the tournament.
42:44Jonathan Liew:And they have the best striker in the world, potentially on current form. So I see no reason why they can't do it. It's just, can they get over the neuroses and the shit that people will throw at them and the circus that will follow them? I think that's the big unknown because I think they've got all of the keys this time. Barry, do you want to come anymore after hearing that?
43:07Max Rushden:Yeah, look, I'm always concerned. I think this is a really good England squad. I have a lot of time for Thomas Tuchel as a manager. I suspect he will be better than Gareth Southgate. and by the way imagine my shock last night i was doing the washing up and i suddenly heard my own voice coming from the television and i was in one of the opening scenes of the the drama dear england i don't remember giving anyone permission for that i certainly haven't received a royalty
43:41Jonathan Liew:check or a they're not creative enough they're not positive enough no i was i was talking them
43:46Max Rushden:up i was appalled uh surely they could have found an england journalist to do this you know that's that's a job for henry winter if ever i saw one but anyway there i was so yeah that was a shock to the system my phone lit up like you're in dear english anyway uh that's by the by my concern my main concern for England will be the conditions, the heat, the potential of a game against Mexico in Mexico in the quarter final. But otherwise, I'd give them a great chance. What do you think, Philippe?
44:24Philippe Auclair:I agree with that. When I heard Barry say my main concern for England, I think, is that England would win. I think that would be our top pick. Then we could have perhaps, I don't know if you're going to watch England's final game together but uh we could have a a replay of what you did uh in the past which was uh well of course yeah the jig the chef's kiss you know we know all the things and i don't i just don't ever believe they'll win it i don't ever believe they'll win it and i'm at peace with that i don't think i'm just saying that to make myself feel better but i i agree with the other lads philly that that you know there is balance to this squad there is a sense of purpose there is that not just picking all, you know, the attackers.
45:08You know, there is a method with Tuchel.
45:10Philippe Auclair:Yeah, and it's a team of players who've won quite a lot of things with their clubs as well. It's a younger team as well. There have been some pretty sharp calls from Tuchel when he named his squad. They were the right choices, by the way. Perhaps the only thing you would, you know, let's not squabble about that. And the fact is he will be in a situation that I think New England manager has been in before in terms of his own relationship with the old country. He doesn't give a toss about it. He is, yeah, he will not be ruffled by anything that's going to be put in the papers. Absolutely not. And I think he will be, this will have an impact on the players as well.
45:57Philippe Auclair:And honestly, yes, I'm sorry, Max, but they're my favorites for the tournament. Really? They are, absolutely. It's the momentum, you know. It's the momentum. There seems to be a right feel around that team. And it's got, yeah, it has the right ingredients. People used to say, well, they don't have the central defenders. Well, actually, no, they do. Oh, they don't have a defensive midfielder. Well, yes, they actually do. And forward, they're terrific. And blah, blah, blah, you carry on. No, can do it. Absolutely. Do you think Bellingham starts, Johnny, over Morgan Rodgers?
46:34Jonathan Liew:I don't think so. I mean, I think he's particularly shown that he's willing to cull the sacred cows. You know, I think leaving out Foden and Cole Palmer was just, it was just, I know it made sense, but it was such an incredible, it's an incredible thing for an England manager to do. and I think he won't have any compunction in leaving Bellingham on the bench or subbing Harry Kane off after 60 minutes if he's having a stinker. I think he's got the authority and he's got the record and he's got the stubbornness and the bloody mindedness to do that. And I mean we've talked about the squad a bit before Barry but I suppose there are a few surprises Dan Byrne and Jordan Henderson seem to be in as just sort of good lads maybe that is not fair.
47:21You could see Dan Byrne being brought on if they're 1-0 down with 10 minutes to go, going, look, be a centre-back when you're defending, but, like, cause some problems up there. Ivan Toney, as well, is a really interesting selection. I think Ivan
47:33Max Rushden:Toney's a great pick. He takes a perfect penalty. There's no better penalty taker than him around anywhere. Look, this English thing of nitpicking over fringe players who probably won't get a minute or, you know, anything more than a handful of minutes. It's just ludicrous. I don't really want any part of it. The only selection I have any problem with is the omission of Adam Wharton. I think he's just a terrific player, but he's not there, so there's no point in worrying about him. I think England's first team is excellent. They've got seven good, you know, excellent replacements ready to come on if things get too hot or if they need to change things up.
48:18Max Rushden:As Philippe has said, Thomas Tuchel doesn't care about any of the sideshow nonsense in the media or the silly questions at press conferences. He doesn't care what anyone thinks of him. He's not enamored to big names or star players. I think it's a great formula for success.
48:37Philippe Auclair:The other thing, it might be just an impression, but my impression is that this England team will arrive at the World Cup in a much better state physically than what I was expecting. So I think quite a few of us would be worried about the effect of burnout, super long season in the Premier League, clubs going quite far in European competitions, well, at least Arsenal and Villa and Palace, and so on. But that doesn't seem to be really the case. And when you look at the performance level of some of the key players in that side, Harry Kane is in absolutely astonishing form at the moment. Declan Rice is as good as he's been all season, which is really saying something.
49:17Philippe Auclair:You're talking about really important players in this case. Even Morgan Rodgers, who's played, I mean, over 50 games, still looks sharp. It's a team that looks sharper than previous incarnations, which tended to arrive at big competitions with players who were either out of form or even carrying slight injuries. And this time, Tuchel has decided, players who are carrying slight injuries, I'm sorry guys you're not going to make it and that is another argument in their favour especially given the climatic conditions in which the tournament is going to be played It's the hope that kills you, isn't it?
49:55Ted says, at what stage will Croatia get tired? Amazing Barry, Perisic is there Kovacic is there Krammerich is there Modric is there This is just glorious Yeah, look
50:06Max Rushden:this team were runners up in 2018 they came third in 2022 to uh moderate perisic crameric 462 caps between them still there it's it's just incredible uh they do have some young blood luke old vascovic is 19 year old he's been on loan at hamburg from spurs he will be the heart of their defense probably alongside um josko gvardiol martin And Batarina from Como is sort of the heir apparent to Luka Modric. Does Luka Modric start? I don't know. Has he come on? Has he got 90 minutes in him? Probably not in the heat. But the presumption seems to be that they will finish second between them and Ghana probably.
50:58Max Rushden:I think it could benefit England to finish second in this group rather than win it. but that's a bit of a gamble to try and finish second rather than first. But yeah, I don't really know what to expect from Croatia. They're obviously good players, but they are pushing on, aren't they? What about Ghana, Johnny? How do you see them?
51:20Jonathan Liew:Yeah, I genuinely don't understand why countries keep hiring Carlos Keroz. Maybe one team has to have them. One team has to have Carlos Keroz. It's like, whose turn is it? It's like the class teddy. Who's got the Carlos Caros? Who takes the goldfish home for the summer holidays? Yeah. Yeah. He's, you know, he's kind of weathered and, you know, he's got a slightly worn patch. Yeah. I don't know. He couldn't get Egypt to the World Cup, couldn't get Colombia to the World Cup. Most recently at Oman. Like, what is it? What is it about this guy's CV that makes, like, a series of nations that this is our guy, this is the guy.
51:58Jonathan Liew:You know, maybe it's the fact that he's, you know, to Alex Ferguson, the shimmering, reflected glory. Look, they're not coming into this tournament in great form. Germany had a field day against them. Mexico had a field day against them. They've been, I think, in Wales doing their final preparations. And Keros has been getting very antsy about all the Thomas Partey questions he's been getting. I would be surprised if they did well in this group or in this tournament. I would be surprised. We all know about the likes of Semenyo. We all know about Partey. Jordan Ayou, I think, is still hanging around there.
52:38Jonathan Liew:But I haven't seen anything from them that really should give England or anyone else any cause for pause.
52:44Philippe Auclair:For me, Ghana is one of those teams whose reputation, because of their name, is much brighter than what they actually have to offer. And it's been the case for a very long time for Ghana, who have always been the team that of which so much was expected. I mean, it's back to the 60s when they didn't play in the 1966 World Cup and they boycotted basically. And when everybody said, oh, look at Ghana, they were fantastic. And it's always been like that, generation after generation. This idea that Ghana was somehow a kind of African superpower has taken hold, that that's just not true. It's not true.
53:22Philippe Auclair:And their team looks not particularly well balanced to me. I don't think they will make a deep impression on that tournament at all, I'm afraid. Can I just add one thing for Luka Modric? Because this tournament is the tournament in which Modric is probably going to enter a very, very, very small club, which is the players who have got more than 200 caps for their country. He's on 196 at the moment. Messi's on 198. so there's only two I mean it's Christian Ronaldo he's way ahead 226 and the second most cap
54:01Max Rushden:Shea given his own 475
54:04Philippe Auclair:yes and so we could have two players coming into the 200 club so who's the other one which is Badr Al-Mutawa from Kuwait who retired in 2022 and who's got 202 caps Christine Sinclair has entered the chat by the way
54:23Jonathan Liew:I know we're post-woke now Has anyone got a line on Panama?
54:28Max Rushden:Yeah, I don't think they're going to be the whipping boys people probably expect them to be They got out of a group containing Bolivia, Uruguay and the USA at the last Copa America They got to the final of the CONCACAF Nations League Their manager is a Danish fellow Thomas Christensen who I think had one appearance for Spain that's what I've written down here it was a long time ago I wrote that down but I presume it's correct and yeah I mean their opener is against Ghana in Toronto I'm not going to say they could win it but if they did it would certainly shake things up Blimey, I just looked Christine Sinclair 331 games for Canada so yeah, take that Luca got to keep going for the next 20 World Cups I wouldn't put it past him.
55:22Quickly then, so Philippe, you think England will win the whole thing? Yes, absolutely. And you, Johnny?
55:28Jonathan Liew:Yeah, I've gone from France to Spain to France to England in the space of the last 10 days. So come back in a few days, but at the moment, England. Barry, who are you tipping for the whole thing? French. Okay, go on boot, everybody. Philippe? Well, Harry Kane, got to be logical here. Johnny? I'm going Haaland on the basis that he's playing a rock in the group stage and Haaland against a rock could be even more of a mismatch than some of the other encounters. Baz?
55:58Max Rushden:In the absence of Christian Benteke, my tactical guess for this one, which could badly backfire, is Spain's Mikel Ollar Zabel. Right. Jose Mourinho Lothalabal. Yeah. Okay, and then some dark horses then, Johnny. I'm going Ecuador.
56:15Philippe Auclair:All right. Philippe? It's the first time I think that they've ever been called dark horses. I'm going for Germany. Germany's a dark horse. Nobody talks about Germany at all. Funny that. That's true. But I still think they can't be a dark horse. They're always just a horse, aren't they? Baz, Turkey?
56:31Max Rushden:No, Ecuador or mine as well. Or Uruguay or Senegal. I'm hedging. No, Ecuador. And Barry, I mean, we've heard England will win it from Philippe and Johnny. Where do you think England will go, Baz? A round of 16 exit at the hands of Mexico. Right, okay. To stay across.
56:52Philippe Auclair:This was the last episode of Wishful Thinking, starring Barry Glendening. Find us on TikTok, Instagram, Reddit, Blue Sky, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Keep listening to us or watching us on YouTube. Thank you, Philippe. Thank you very much, Max. Cheers, Johnny. Thanks. Cheers, Barry.
57:10Max Rushden:Well, I hope you're smirking on the other side of your faces in a few weeks. Let it be noted, Barry, that I didn't smirk. I'm not doing any smirking. I'll only smirk if and when we lift the trophy and I don't think it'll ever happen. See you in LA, Baz. Football Weekly is produced by Tai Papula. Our executive producer is Joel Grove. Yeah, back for the World Cup.
57:40Jonathan Liew:This is The Guardian.
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