She Found His Notebook After He Died—What Was Inside Changed Everything | Ep 304 with Jo Ann Brechtel

6 Feb 2026 · 21 min · 8 chapters

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Podcast Overview Title: Founder’s Story Description: A podcast spotlighting unique entrepreneurs, illuminating their resilience, creativity, and leadership. It features both renowned and lesser-known figures, emphasizing the heart of entrepreneurship.

Episode Details Episode Title: She Found His Notebook After He Died—What Was Inside Changed Everything Episode Number: 304 Guest: Jo Ann Brechtel Episode Description: Jo Ann shares her journey of writing *A Messenger of the Light*, inspired by her son Warren’s unexpected death and the profound impact of discovering his personal artwork and writings.

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Key Discussion Points

Jo Ann's Journey

  • Warren's Sudden Death: Jo Ann recounts the moment she received the news of her son's death, describing the emotional turmoil and memories it triggered.
  • Discovery of His Notebook: Upon going to California to close his apartment, she found notebooks filled with Warren's art and spiritual writings about "the light within us."
  • Warren's Creativity: From a young age, Warren demonstrated creativity—observing Christmas lights as a toddler, creating stage shows, working at KTLA, and aspiring to tell stories that help others.

Turning Grief into Purpose

  • Writing as Therapy: Compiling Warren's works into a book became a therapeutic process for Jo Ann, helping her to navigate her grief while preserving his legacy.
  • Themes of the Book:
  • Hope and Strength: The book aims to offer hope and resilience to readers.
  • Faith and Light: Warren's belief that everyone carries a light within them is a central theme, encouraging readers to recognize and share their inner strength.

Lessons from Warren

  • Perseverance: Warren's philosophy emphasizes that failure is not the end—continuing to try is crucial.
  • Reflecting on Legacy: Jo Ann reflects on learning new aspects of her son's faith and character through his writings, deepening her understanding of him.

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Key Takeaways

  • Grief as a Bridge to Meaning: Jo Ann articulates that grief can transform into a meaningful journey when channeled into creativity.
  • Encouragement for Others: She urges anyone facing loss or self-doubt to write, as expressing pain can lead to strength and remembrance.
  • The Power of Community: Jo Ann highlights the importance of friendship and how Warren's legacy continues to resonate with his friends and loved ones.

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Closing Thoughts

  • The conversation serves as a tribute to love, legacy, and resilience, showcasing how Jo Ann's book keeps Warren's spirit alive through his art and words.
  • Jo Ann's hope is that readers will find motivation and solace, reminding them of the light within, even during challenging times.

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Additional Information

  • Book Title: *A Messenger of the Light*
  • Availability: The book can be ordered through Amazon and is recommended for its artwork and lasting impact.

Links

  • [Order the Book on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/Messenger-Light-Artworks-Scientific-Thoughts-ebook/dp/B0FX1P3T4J/dp)

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The Pain of Loss

0:45 to 2:26

Jo Ann shares the unexpected loss of her son, Warren, and its emotional impact.

“He worked with KTLA-TB doing weather and traffic many years.”

Writing A Messenger of the Light

2:26 to 5:38

Jo Ann discusses her journey of compiling her son's artwork and words into a book.

“to look through his remaining personal items in his apartment and close it out.”

Overcoming Challenges in Writing

5:38 to 7:41

Jo Ann reflects on her fears and challenges faced while writing the book, relying on support from others.

“So with prayers and with using some of Warren's deserved money that he got for working so many years at KTLA, I was lucky to use the publishers and find them to help me.”

Therapeutic Writing and Life Lessons

7:41 to 11:23

Jo Ann explains how writing the book was therapeutic and shares lessons learned from Warren.

“I wanted to give them all something to remember him by.”

Discovering Spiritual Depths

11:23 to 14:03

Jo Ann discusses her newfound understanding of Warren's spirituality and beliefs.

“And know that you've never tried to strive for something that you thought maybe was possible.”

Discovering Warren's Spiritual Depth

14:03 to 16:47

Jo Ann reflects on her late husband's hidden artistic talents and spiritual beliefs revealed through his notes.

“In fact, I told my husband, we never knew he was really sick because he wouldn't complain.”

The Impact of Warren's Legacy

16:47 to 19:33

Discussion on the positive impact of Warren's book and art on friends and readers, inspiring them to find light in dark times.

“He had a way of listening to his friends, and I know if you asked them today, they missed that, calling up Warren and talking with him.”

Encouragement Through Connection

19:33 to 20:55

Jo Ann shares the book's message about encouragement and the importance of friends in uplifting each other.

“Well, Joanne, I mean, thank you for sharing this.”
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0:04So Joanne, I always love talking to authors. Being a recent author myself, I know how hard and challenging the process can be. It can take a very long time. And people don't realize how hard it is. And I know you have a recent book that has come out, A Messenger of the Light. And it is about your son, Warren, and its artwork and thoughts from him. And I'd like to understand, what was the journey like for you writing this book, knowing how challenging it could be, yet in the end, how powerful it could be to others? Well, let me just take a minute and say this all began when I received a notice that my son had died.

0:53And this was unexpected. He lived in California. He worked with KTLA-TB doing weather and traffic many years. And he underwent surgery recently, and we thought he was recuperating and preparing to come home for Christmas. when I received this notice I can't explain the immense pain the thoughts, the memories, the feelings that come to you and it brought back so many memories of Warren when he was a child he started with a lot of creativity we were in Germany at that time and he would be two and a half I'm looking for him he's laying under a Christmas tree gazing up to the whole length of the tree, the tall, watching the twinkling lights instead of from the outside.

1:48As he grew, he just kept producing movies and stage shows in his grandma's garage. And then he went on to write stories and develop films. And he did this. He graduated from Loyola. He worked with KTLA, like I said, for a number of years. He loved this. I'll take a minute to say Warren was a beautiful person and a wonderful son. He showed his love and compassion, especially for his friends and others. It just radiated from him. and I realized I had to go to California to look through his remaining personal items in his apartment and close it out. At that time, I found a whole notebook and collection of his artwork and I found some of the words.

2:48He talked with me daily and I knew he wanted to do stories that would help others and he always believed that some people have a light within them. And he felt like a lot of his friends and himself were chosen by the light. And I even found a handout that he did describing the characteristics of the light that shines within us. And I found many other meaningful words and thoughts. he believed that we were the eyes of Christ and that he followed us if you had the light and saw what was happening on the earth. He had many words. So in the midst of feeling like this, so much pain, you had to do something.

3:40I said, I cannot just throw this away. So I felt I had to do this. I had to get his artwork and his personal words and anything I found that was of importance, the handouts that he would have there. I took them and I decided at that time that I would try to compile this in a book. I'd never had written a book before. So needless to say, I was very nervous and scared because I thought, wow, I was a social worker by my trade. I did a lot of interventions, but nothing like that. and so I would use prayers and I talked to my husband a lot and to my family which included sisters who were still living and to friends and to Warren and I would just pray for guidance and what I did was I compiled I put sections together using his artwork I chose some of his art and then I put together some of his words like he believed that God made us all to contribute something back to this world.

4:56And he believed in the light. And his words led me to the title of it, A Messenger of the Light. And that came from his words, but also his coloring. This is part of his artwork. he used certain colors really beautiful colors and this is you do a lot of artwork for your imagination but it is the wings of an angel and he used this in his artwork and they put it together on his book but it's a beautiful coloring and with that I I looked well okay what do you do with this once you compile this I took it to a copier or a printer they did some typing for me then I knew nothing about publishing I looked for advertisements I looked for anything I could find of someone who might help me to get this out to the public and with that I found that in addition to having this desire to share this with others, you had to have a lot of money also to get you to this point.

6:16So with prayers and with using some of Warren's deserved money that he got for working so many years at KTLA, I was lucky to use the publishers and find them to help me. And with that, it came down to advertising it and eventually to your podcast. But he believed in his friends and others, and he believed that we're all chosen to the light and wanted to help primarily with this book. And that's what I tried to cover in this. the obstacles that I came across a lot of fear in myself a lot of self doubt not having done this before I didn't want to I didn't want to waste his money I felt bad about using it I didn't want to waste it so there were a lot of fear I relied so much on prayers and talking to Warren and I think I got guidance I feel I really did and I had people who were very interested, the publishers they guided and helped and his friends were very supportive and I know that he loved them very much and for them I wrote this also because I wanted them to have some remembrances of one and he had so many good friends he never knew a stranger I think and he loved the people we worked with at Cape Town Lake, so they were included in that.

8:03I wanted to give them all something to remember him by. But with that, I think his own artwork, his thoughts, they were just, he dated his art, and he signed it. And, of course, I've done artwork, but nothing like that, a little bit here and there. But his was so pronounced and so thought through, he'd even give it a title, like creation. And he used a lot of his thoughts to combine with the spiritual thoughts of how we were created. In a scientific manner, space was always there in the back of his mind. At third grade, he did a space colony. So with this book, his artwork shows a lot of his spirituality at the development of us in the relation to the world we live in.

8:58and to our spiritual beings that we have in our heavens. And with that, I'll stop here and see if I'm just going on and on too much or if you have other subjects. I mean, what a sad story. I remember hearing about Warren. By the way, I remember hearing this a couple of years ago. So, sorry that you had to go through this. I'm sure it's one of the most difficult things any parent could go through. Knowing all of this, did you feel like for other people that maybe are going through something similar or going through their own challenges, writing this book, did it feel therapeutic in the sense of going back through the memories, making sure you think about all the positive things versus the obvious negative thing that he is now gone?

9:53Oh, definitely. I felt for any parent that lost a child or a loved one. It's very difficult. It's like this book, The Light. There are times when we all need a light within us, and this represents that, a light that we can have to help us through dark times. and anytime you have obstacles, what I learned from Warren was they're meant to be removed. Don't let your fear or that you can't do it, your depression, the writing can help. Definitely it helps because I felt like I just couldn't keep it inside of me. I would just shut down things and that helps. It helps tremendously. if you're ever in a position like that, write, because it does help to get this.

10:50And your words, they can accumulate, and you can remember things from your loved one. So I would certainly encourage others for going through this to maybe think about it. You have loved ones who have things that you know are good. they're all good and we just have to appreciate them and I do believe that's what he wanted and what I want is that we appreciate that everyone has goodness in them and that you just need the strength to bring it out and one of the things Warren would say is you're not at fault if you don't do something right the first time or the second time but don't give up because if you don't try, that is the worst thing that can happen in your life.

11:45And know that you've never tried to strive for something that you thought maybe was possible. Keep striving. Keep telling yourself you'll get through this. And he told me, it's in this book, he would call me and after his surgery I was concerned because he's in California, I'm in Texas. so I couldn't do much except verbal and just show him how much I love over phone and text. But he would tell me, Mom, don't worry. He said, Mom, Grandma taught me a long time ago to say the rosary and to ask the Blessed Mother to help me get through this. And he would say that he asked them to pray for the doctors even that were treating him.

12:37And he said, Mom, I'm going to be all right. So I have to remember that. Wherever he is, he's all right. And I must say, going through the memories and the words that I read, because all of these are his quotes or his words, and definitely his art, but it did help me. And I think they're mean to help others because there is a lot of times in life when you have to face darkness. And at that time, you have to remember to call on the light within you. And if this book helps you, then by all means, enjoy it. He had more artwork. I picked out some that I thought went with sections that I could start with.

13:32but it came from the need to share this because that's what he intended to do when he stopped work at KTLA. He had even bought this expensive camera and he started writing stories and that's what he chose to do. All his life he enjoyed bringing laughter or friendship, even on the news show. He would do that with the anchors. and the humor helped, I know. So he was that type of person. In fact, I told my husband, we never knew he was really sick because he wouldn't complain. He just kept telling me he didn't want me to worry, I know. But I know that he was trying to, he just would accept it. And I think I never realized how deep war in spiritual faith was until all of this when I read his notes.

14:30And maybe because as a child growing up, you know, you tell them, okay, we're going to go to church. And, you know, okay, sometimes it's accepted, sometimes it's not. But when he was out on his own, I had no idea how important his spiritual belief was and how important his grandma was to him. So I appreciate that. So you learned a lot. You learned a lot about him and things you didn't even know. So I'm curious. And I mean, that's great that you were able to go through this and have these feelings in such a difficult and challenging time. What's been the word of other people? Is it resonating with them?

15:15Maybe, you know, people that are around you, did they also learn something? How about people that maybe didn't even know him at all, or maybe barely knew him? You know, how are they? What are they saying about this book? So far, they're saying that they really loved it, and they didn't know Warren had so much artistic ability, which, likewise, I knew he drew, but not to that extent where he combined it with his spiritual thoughts about creation and why we were here and how the world was and how it was developed. that that was what shocked people the most. They knew about his work at the HLNA, but we were aware, I think, of his artistic.

16:03And all this time, he started like in 87. He had collections of this. And then in 90. And he wouldn't brag or show. He was collecting it, I think, for a time when he wanted to do it. And I'm just happy that people are getting to know this about him. And they think that they're just happy they got to see more of him and know more about his beliefs, his words, and his friends. It meant a lot to them. A lot of them said, it's so special, I love it. And it makes me happy because his friendship, when you were his friend, and it radiated with you. He'd help a lot of people. He had a way of listening to his friends, and I know if you asked them today, they missed that, calling up Warren and talking with him.

17:00Because, like I said, he was always sort of upbeat. And like I said, I never knew he was even that sick. It took me total by surprise when he died. I know he was surprised too. It was unexpected. I think overall, people felt good about the way they got to know him and the way they felt after they saw the group. Well, if there's any positivity, it sounds like he touched a lot of lives and now you're continuing that here and really creating the lightness where there's dark. And I hope a lot of other people who are maybe they're in a certain situation or similar, maybe not similar. Just they feel down and out and they're going to read this and it's going to uplift them.

17:50So people want to get in touch with you. They want to they want to get the book. How can they do so? They can go to Amazon and they can order the book. And they have the other one that you can put on your phone. But I recommend the book because of the art in it. And I think it's a collection you can keep because if I do give more art, perhaps his art will be something that people want and you will have it. It's like something you can keep even available on your pop-tail table where people come over and they're browsing or they're waiting for you or you are just talking. You can share and look at it, And it's something that will keep you thinking and perhaps even bring out some motivation for what you may want to do or someone that you know to get the courage and the strength to follow their own goals.

18:53And I think it has helped that way, with me especially. Because like I said, I'd never written a book. And I thought, wow, I don't even know where to begin. And it's amazing. I used his concept of prayers. And then, of course, talking to Lauren. Okay, help me. And I do believe that. I believe in heaven. And I believe that he was helping me as much as he could to inspire me. And I think your loved ones and those around you that know you, they can do that also. Encourage. But the book encourages you to take your time to try to expand or work on whatever you are intending to achieve in your life.

19:43Well, Joanne, I mean, thank you for sharing this. Thank you for being vulnerable. You are the author of A Messenger of the Light and has all of your son's artwork, incredible artwork. Sounds like it has quotes and things about his life. And I can't wait to read the book. And I hope everyone picks it up and gets inspired and impacts because it sounds like this is really a legacy. This is something, a passion, a legacy. And it's something that you are doing to help continue the reach and further of your son. So thank you for all you do. And thank you for writing this book. And I can't wait to hear how many people are positively impacted by it.

20:23It looks incredible, by the way. Thank you. I want to say one of this one word, one sentence. Warren always believe that if your friends are someone that reads this or they someone around you says you make them happy when they're with you remember that because that's important you're doing that in your life and that alone helps others especially your friends so thank you for doing this I appreciate it yeah no thank you Joanne you were great thank you yeah it was amazing. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for what you do. I appreciate it. You help a lot of people. Bye.

From the publisher

Jo Ann Brechtel joins Founder’s Story to share the story behind A Messenger of the Light, a book born from profound loss and an unexpected discovery. She explains how, after her son Warren’s sudden death, she found a notebook filled with his artwork, dated and signed pieces, and personal spiritual writings that expressed his belief in “the light within us.” Jo Ann describes turning grief into purpose by compiling his words and art into a book meant to bring hope, faith, and strength to others.

Key Discussion Points:
Jo Ann recounts receiving the shocking notice of Warren’s death and traveling to California to close his apartment, where she discovered his notebooks of art and handwritten reflections. She shares how Warren’s creativity showed up early, from gazing at Christmas lights as a toddler to making stage shows and films, then later working at KTLA and dreaming of creating stories that help others. The episode explores how writing the book became therapeutic, helping her process grief and preserve Warren’s legacy for his friends, colleagues, and future readers. Jo Ann also reflects on learning new sides of her son, especially the depth of his faith, his devotion to prayer, and his belief that obstacles are meant to be removed, not feared.

Takeaways:
Jo Ann’s message is that grief can become a bridge to meaning when you give it somewhere to go, and for her, that place was the page. She encourages anyone experiencing loss, darkness, or self doubt to write, because putting words to pain can turn memories into strength. Warren’s philosophy throughout the episode centers on perseverance: you are not at fault for failing, but you lose when you stop trying. Above all, the “light” is portrayed as something we carry within us, and when we live in a way that makes others feel seen, safe, or happy, we are already doing something that matters.

Closing Thoughts:
This conversation is a portrait of love, legacy, and resilience through faith. Jo Ann’s book keeps Warren’s spirit present through his art and words, and her hope is that readers will feel uplifted, motivated, and reminded that even in darkness, the light within you can be called on and shared with others.


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