In short
Australian Open women’s singles final recap (Day 14): Elena Rybakina defeats world No. 1 Aryna Sabalenka 6-4, 4-6, 6-4, plus debate over whether Sabalenka “blew it” in the third set.
Key claims
Rybakina won on “pure hitting” in indoor conditions (roof closed), especially after a pivotal early break; Sabalenka wasn’t a total choke, but she “threw it away” after leading 3-0 in the third and losing the last seven games.
Notable examples
Rybakina’s first-game break via three straight return winners; Sabalenka’s adjustment to Rybakina’s second serve (kick to Sabalenka’s backhand) in set two; the 3-all game in the third where Sabalenka’s errors and negative body language swung momentum; Rybakina closing with a decisive ace and a late run of games.
Guests
The episode has hosts (Matt Roberts, David, Catherine, and Hannah mentioned) but no external guests are identified; discussion is commentary by the host team.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMatch Overview and Highlights
0:45 to 2:39
Discussion about the key moments and competitiveness of the women's final.
“until the very last-minute match that we would all have sawn off our arms for a couple of days ago.”
Rybakina's Performance
2:39 to 4:38
Analysis of Rybakina's playing style and her performance in the final.
“I mean, 6-4 first set, very competitive, was over in 35 minutes, something like that.”
Sabalenka's Struggles
4:38 to 7:19
Discussion on Sabalenka's missed opportunities and her gameplay throughout the match.
“Yeah, it felt to me, to answer your question, Catherine, like a classic case of the tennis scoring system.”
Turning Points in the Match
7:19 to 13:20
An exploration of crucial moments that defined the outcome of the final.
“From like a good, you know, maybe not a serve that totally found the corner of the box, but a first serve and it just came back at her.”
Post-Match Reflections
13:20 to 14:00
Final thoughts on the match and reflections on both players' performances.
“I thought I was having all these thoughts.”
Analyzing Sabalenka's Performance in the Final
14:00 to 17:59
Explore the dynamics of Sabalenka's match and her mindset during critical moments.
“This isn't just something that I've come up with after the fact.”
Sabalenka's Historical Challenges in Finals
18:00 to 20:58
Discuss Sabalenka's history in Grand Slam finals and her psychological hurdles.
“Like, it's not like she can't play in big moments.”
Rybakina’s Career and Recent Success
20:59 to 27:09
Examine Rybakina's journey back to winning Grand Slam titles and her recent performances.
“And then she'd won the other four that she'd played.”
The Future of Women's Tennis Rivalries
27:10 to 28:00
Discuss potential future rivalries in women's tennis and Rybakina's rise in rankings.
Rybakina's Rise and Sabalenka's Struggles
28:00 to 40:53
A deep dive into Elena Rybakina's recent success and the challenges faced by Aryna Sabalenka.
“than anybody else like this is the culmination of quite a consistent or a very very consistent spell now, which makes me think that this might be a new normal for Elena Rabakina, possibly.”
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Sensation of the Day Recap
41:04 to 42:01
Discussion on the day's notable experiences and interactions with Australian Open fans.
“Met some and they were really nice and they asked for like, you know, a chat and to tell us that they liked the podcast.”
Sensation of the Day Award Discussion
42:01 to 43:30
The hosts debate who should be awarded 'Sensation of the Day' after the Australian Open.
“I potentially need to throw into the mix Olivia Gadecki and John Pears because I owe them an apology for taking an Australian Open title away from them yesterday.”
Women's Doubles Final Recap
43:30 to 46:38
A recap of the women's doubles final and the emotional moments surrounding it.
“I mean, she was disappointed to lose, of course, but she likes a microphone in her hand.”
Men's Doubles Title and Personal Stories
46:38 to 48:52
Discussion about Neil Skubski and Christian Harrison's win and their backstories.
“But it was a heck of a performance, Davis Cup atmosphere.”
Wheelchair Events Highlights
48:52 to 55:09
Highlights from the wheelchair events, including Niels Vink's Golden Slam.
“These Chinese players are really on the rise and it's going to be interesting whether this is, you know, reaching the final here is a big deal for Dehout.”
Introduction of Blind and Low Vision Tennis
55:09 to 56:00
Discussion on the inaugural Blind and Low Vision Invitational event at the Australian Open.
“and what he does is absolutely remarkable.”
Exploring Wheelchair Tennis at the Australian Open
56:00 to 57:10
Learn about the inclusion of wheelchair tennis in the Australian Open and its significance.
“and to be part of the Paralympics, to be part of the Grand Slams one day, as it is here, albeit as an invitational event.”
Previewing the Junior Finals
57:10 to 59:09
Discussion on the upcoming junior finals featuring potential talent.
“And that, OK, started small at first, but ended up really growing and it just allowed more people to watch it while everyone's, you know, while the eyes are on the Australian Open.”
Anticipating the Men's Singles Final
59:14 to 1:02:49
Debate over the upcoming match between Alcaraz and Djokovic, including player conditions and stakes.
“they really want us to leave, but there is one last important bit of business to discuss.”
Physicality and Strategy in the Final
1:02:50 to 1:10:03
In-depth look at the physical aspects and strategies for the final match.
“is maturing with every passing Grand Slam, with every experience he's having.”
Analyzing the Stress Factors in Finals
1:10:03 to 1:11:32
Discussing the impact of heat and stress on player performance in finals.
“I'm going to be watching this on about three hours sleep, I've just realised, because it's 1.37 in the morning and I'm going on Australian TV at 8am, or certainly my call time is 8am, so fun day tomorrow for me.”
Community Interactions and Predictions
1:11:33 to 1:12:56
Engaging with listeners' predictions and experiences in tennis.
“I'm looking at a picture of Gus mid-air launching herself into some water, which is apparently something she does quite often.”
Celebrating Listener Stories and Connections
1:12:57 to 1:14:55
Sharing stories from listeners about their tennis experiences and friendships.
“Hello to our top folks and executive producers, Greg, Chris and Jeff.”
Closing Thoughts and Tomorrow's Highlights
1:15:56 to 1:16:54
Wrapping up the discussion and teasing the next episode's content.
“There is one more tennis podcast to come.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:10Hello and welcome to the tennis podcast coming to you from Melbourne Park on day 14 of the Australian Open, otherwise known as Women's Singles Final Night, a night that belongs to Elena Rabakina, who was crowned champion here a couple of hours ago on the Rod Laver Arena after a 6-4, 4-6, 6-4 victory over the world number one Arena Sabalenka. Matt, you were right. These things do catch. We got another great match. Maybe not an all-timer, but the sort of competitive, high-stakes result hanging in the balance until the very last-minute match that we would all have sawn off our arms for a couple of days ago.
0:54Absolutely, yeah. I think that's an important perspective because I think yesterday was so dramatic for the men's semi-finals that arguably this match could have got a bit lost in that and maybe did get a bit lost in that. but it was a really compelling tennis match I thought in the balance until the final moment you had a player in Rabatkinah make a brilliant start and take a lead Sabalenka come back and end up building a lead herself but then Rabatkinah coming on strong and closing it out in a very Rabatkinah style with a with a fantastic ace and it and it leaves us with with some talking points as well you know what happened to arena sabalenka down the stretch and of course what does this mean for elena robackina the question we always we always ask ask after a major final and i think maybe it wasn't quite as much of a sort of wow match as their australian open final here a few years ago i think the quality of that one was outrageously good but this was still a very high quality match from both and yeah as you said a really good way to to finish the women's tournament and the you know the best match we've had in in the women's draw for quite a number of days I would say so yeah I really enjoyed it I think the biggest debate point from this match will be did Irina Sabalenka throw it away throw it away obviously she was three love up in in the third set.
2:30We will debate that. We will come on to it. But net, David, over the course of these two hours and 18 minutes, it was. It did move on. It moved a clip, didn't it? I mean, 6-4 first set, very competitive, was over in 35 minutes, something like that. Like, this was a fast-paced match. But yeah, two hours and 18 minutes. Net for you tonight, David. And I know this isn't necessarily what always decides tennis matches, but was Elena Rabakina the better player? Yes, in the end, yes. I do believe that this is not freakish. I don't think it was a total choke from one of the players, losing to nerves. And I actually think it was a victory very similar to last night with Djokovic over Sinner.
3:18It was a victory for pure hitting in those type of conditions where it's still and you've got these arrow-like trajectories on shots versus somebody who uses more spin, hits violently but with spin. And I actually think that the early lead that Rabakina assembled was down to that, that pure hitting. She came straight out the blocks, hitting the ball beautifully, pristinely from the baseline. Didn't actually serve that well over the course of the match, really, if you consider most of the time she was around the 50 % mark, whereas in the first few rounds of the tournament she'd been well over 60%.
4:03But I still come away feeling that whilst it wasn't a choke from Irina Sabalenka, I do think she threw it away. That is my main takeaway from it, and I don't want to do Rebecca in a down. I probably inevitably am doing to some degree, But look, it's a triumph to be the one left standing with the trophy and to have played some fantastic tennis along the way. Don't get me wrong, she did. But I also think when your three-love up in the deciding set and your Arena Sabalenka, the world number one, you should be finishing that off. And she didn't. Yeah, it felt to me, to answer your question, Catherine, like a classic case of the tennis scoring system.
4:47because I thought Sabalenka was the better player for longer in this match in terms of time. In terms of time spent watching the match, I spent longer really impressed with Irina Sabalenka. But in the key moments down the stretch in the third, absolutely it was Rabakina who was the better player, more composed, more controlled with her shots, and ended up reeling off, what was it, six of the last seven games to win the match. And given that Sabalenka had been the better player for longer, but not so much better that she'd been able to win the match and build a huge lead, what ended up mattering the most was who played the best in the big moments.
5:33And that was unquestionably Rabatkinner in that final set. There is something about Rabatkinner's top level, isn't there, which she produced, I mean, she produced it in a few spells tonight, but the one that will stay with me is the first half an hour, 20 minutes, half an hour of this match. There is something about that top level from Rabakna because of the way she hits the ball so clean and its flight through the air in those indoor conditions. The roof was closed tonight. It was quite a wet day in Melbourne. It's gasp-inducing from the crowd, isn't it? Certainly from us. I gasped a few times.
6:13It does take you back. Obviously, Sabalenka has that power that comes from a very different place, but there's something about the cleanness, the clinicalness of Rabatkin in full flow, in flow state, that is breathtaking. And we did see it literally in the first game. I mean, Sabalenka landed her first seven first serves of this match and got broken in that game. We're back in an unbelievable returning game that ended up, OK, certainly winning her the first set because it was the only break in the first set. You could arguably say it went a long way to winning her the match because it was so pivotal in that opening set, this break that she got.
7:06She just connected with a couple of returns. Three in a row, actually. Four hand winners. The first one of which went underneath Sabalenka's racket on the baseline. I thought that that shocked her. Straight out of the blocks. From like a good, you know, maybe not a serve that totally found the corner of the box, but a first serve and it just came back at her. Like no one else in the draw is really able to do to Sabalenka. Certainly consistently. And yeah, it was an absolutely stunning start from Rabatkinner. She was so on it in those first few games of this. And yeah, Charlie Ackershire always says that he thinks Rabatkinner is the cleanest hitter on tour.
7:51And you notice that, especially when you watch her live. You know, the easy power is an expression that doesn't really do her ball strike justice. this but it is it is what she has this sort of sweeping effect on her ground stretch got quite quite sort of long swings and just just sweeps the ball away for winners so so effortlessly seemingly and look she was for much of that first set she was utterly sublime Rebecca and yet it was just it was just that break of serve in the opening game that that was what decided it and by the end of that set it did feel like Sabalenka was on top and yet she loses the set she goes off for a a bathroom break, a change of a tyre break, and she is absolutely seething.
8:38And she lets you know, doesn't she? Well, she lets you know everything she's thinking pretty much all the way through. And I counted one unforced error from Rebecca in that first set, really. In from baseline rallies that I could remember, I actually wrote it down. and it came shortly after Sabalenka had been sort of holding her up a couple of times when she was about to serve. She coughed a couple of times. There was another time she sort of raised her hand and walked about and she had to reload the serve. Laura Siegman playbook. Well, I did think that maybe she was just trying to disrupt rhythm a little and I think one of the things that makes Rabakina's power so gasp-inducing in a crowd is because it is not accompanied by any sound from her mouth at all.
9:29All the sound is coming from the other end, that kind of guttural, you know that it's coming because she's wound up into it and made all the noise, whereas you don't hear a peep out of her back in her. You don't see it or feel it coming, and then suddenly it has just flashed across the court, and it has gone into the backstop. It is quite an awesome sight. but yeah at that at the end of that first set because of the record they have where Rubackina always wins these one-sided matches between them and Sabalenka always wins the close matches that go three sets between them it was just so tantalizing at that point which one are we going to get this time and we didn't end up getting either of those two um we got a we got a chap in front of us whose family all stood up with an 80th birthday sign and sang him happy birthday while Sabalenka was off the court and we're just sort of waiting to see if we're going to get another dud or whether we're going to get a match and fair play to Sabalenka she came out and reset like the champion she is and knuckled down I thought I thought okay we're now getting the professional world number one performance out of Sabalenka that is turning this match around Yeah, I was really impressed with Savalenka because, as you say, she lost serve in the opening game of the match and then faced basically no pressure on her serve for a very long period in this match.
11:01And actually she was the one creating the chances, whether it be breakback points that she had at 4-3 in the opening set but didn't take, or again break points, three of them in Rabatkin's first service game of the second set. And she didn't take those chances either. And largely because Rabatkin served extremely well on those break points. But, you know, there was part of me that was thinking, gosh, there's a world here where Sabalenka is absolutely ruining all of these missed opportunities, getting really, really frustrated. But actually that that didn't happen. I thought she she stayed pretty composed and poised and in control of her game.
11:42And I read it as though she was she was feeling like her opportunity was going to come and she was confident in her own game and she sensed that it would come. And she also made a very good adjustment in the match because although Rebecca wasn't nailing first serves all the time, she was also having a lot of success on the second serve with her kick serve to the Sabalenka backhand return. It was a real problem for Sabalenka in the opening stages of this match. She started to read it, get on top of it, strike that shot better on the return. She also occasionally threw in the odd slice return, short.
12:23It was just a good adjustment, just a good sign to me that Sabalenka was thinking clearly and sort of able to overcome a sort of tactical wrinkle in this match. So I was so impressed with that second set by Sabalenka because chances were coming and going, but she kept holding firm, she kept cruising on her own serve, and then she struck at the perfect moment right at the end of the set, played a couple of those short slices to bring Rebecca forward and took the set and levelled it up, as she always does. She always wins sets in Grand Slam matches. You have to go back to the COVID US Open of 2020 for the last time.
13:04She didn't win a set in a Grand Slam match. 110 matches. It's crazy how many. What a competitor. So I did have faith that she would win a set here. She always does. And I thought at this stage, Sabalenka was going to go on to win it. I thought I was having all these thoughts. You know, any talk of Sabalenka sort of Grand Sam final problems is maybe overblown. She's playing a really good one here and she's turned it around and she's in command. And I think if you'd polled the stadium, most people would have said the same. the signs at that moment were pointing to Sabalenka, even more so when she breaks at the start of the third set and goes three love up and is playing really well.
13:51For everybody, except Matt Roberts, who had a theory. I did have a theory, and I have to say this, I did say this in the moment. This isn't just something that I've come up with after the fact. I can confirm that. You said it to me in the moment, and you texted it to a group. you really wanted there to be a paper trail. He's been hanging around me enough. That's what I always do. If I don't get enough reaction out of one group, stick it in another one. I just thought that getting an early break in the third set might not be the best thing for Irina Sabalenka because she was serving first in the third.
14:34So as long as they kept holding, she was going to have, eventually at the end of the set, the scoreboard pressure here. but I thought that if she did go up an early break, it would just change the feel of the match, and suddenly, like, the pressure would be on Sabalenka to close it, even if it necessarily wasn't entirely on her racket. I'm not sure it was because the return game that Rebecca can have played to break showed that this match-up is not entirely on her racket, but up a break in the third of a Grand Sam final for Sabalenka, it would have felt like it was entirely on her racket, And I just think, and I think we then saw it, that that brings a different dynamic.
15:15It just snapped her out of that zone that she'd been in after going down a break right at the start of the match, which was, right, I've got to work now, I've got to knuckle down, I've got to find my game, I've got to turn this around. And she was so serene for such a long time in this match. But as soon as she then went up a break, in her next three service games, she was under pressure every single time. And a lot of that was because of Rebecca stepping up. But I just felt like the shift in the dynamic and the feel of the match might make this tricky for Sabalenka. And look, that's not to say that when you get a break point, you shouldn't take it.
15:57Like, obviously, she did the right thing taking that and going up a break. Excuse me, I'd prefer to break later. Right. You can't do that. Do you think even she's not unprofessional enough to assume she's won it, but do you think subconsciously she did think, I've got this now? I think Sabalenka just always thinks the match is on her racket and I should be winning this. Not in a disrespectful to her opponent way. I think she has this really admirable core of self-belief. I think her style of play and the way she's always in control of the matches she plays is kind of incompatible with having a shrug okay they're just playing really great I've got to weather this that's how it goes sometimes kind of an attitude I think she's not really able to do that just go you know that thing that players do where they're like okay cool can you keep this up though she doesn't that doesn't really occur to her to have that attitude because she's like but I should be I shouldn't be allowing them to do this stuff because I'm me and I'm really Sabalenka and I'm like I'm the one that says let's go power I'm the one that's in control of everything and I totally understand why she feels that way given what her identity is as a tennis player but it just isn't true sometimes and I think that came through in her press conference when she was kind of dismissive about the number of finals she's been in versus the number of wins she's had in them and she didn't even know what the number was she thought it was terrible was she dismissive about it though i i thought she actually revealed that it's really in her head she's very very aware my point is that she feels like she should have a better record than that right that is is what i'm getting at you know she assumed it was worse than it was and she's pissed off about it um and because she believes in the big moments in the big matches she should be just dominating and it shouldn't be a matter and that's why she's so she gets so angry she can't accept it and i mean i respect that because she's a she's a champion she's a competitor she wants to win everything um but the but the thing is there was there's another player down the other end who has you know enormous power and can take it away from you if if you don't put it away and that and that's what's going to keep her up tonight is if you don't put the balls away and just take it off off her plate and just don't give her a chance there's always a chance she's going to sting you you know we're going to see this tomorrow in the men's final somebody's got to go grab it and in the end she didn't it's it's it's such an interesting one that does arena sabalenka have a grand slam final problem because she never know shows in the grand slam final usually when you're thinking about people that do they have a final problem or do they have a getting over the line problem it's you know they usually have a track record of freezing in the biggest moments or like she's not doing that you know we just talked about her record of always winning a set going back to 2020 but there is something that is happening well it's not clutch is it it's not if it to use that expression she would would have won six and lost two if she was clutch or or better and it's four and four and it's odd that this comes from the person who has the tie-break record that she has.
19:36Like, it's not like she can't play in big moments. Right, she's not a choker. Play in big moments. She's not a mental midget. Like, this is not... That is not Irina Sabalenka. And I know things, you know, aren't binary like that, but there is something going on here. I just can't quite put my finger on what it is. No, I can't either. I think before today I would have said she had a Coco Goff in Grand Slam finals problem if I had to really nail it down and be as specific as possible about it because she's lost two Grand Slam finals to Goff and I do think in both of them, yes, Goff did an incredible job of causing Sabalenka to make a lot of unforced errors, but I do think Sabalenka lost her way in both of those finals that she played against Goff.
20:29The other loss that she'd had before today was the Madison Keys one, which I think Sabalenka remembers as a bad performance. I think she was not happy with the way she played and finished that one. I felt slightly differently. I thought that it wasn't a bad performance. It was two big hitters and Keys ripped it from her at the end. And like, as you said, she showed up in that one for sure. And then she'd won the other four that she'd played. So like before today, she had a winning record in Grandstand Finals. So it doesn't, it certainly doesn't feel right to say that she had a problem, but it equally doesn't feel right to say that nothing is happening here.
21:15And to me, if we, if we drill down into what happened today, once she got that early break in the third Sabalenka, she then immediately faced break point but held. So went three-love up, only one break. But I thought that was a big moment because I thought, OK, Rabatkin has put some pressure on there, but Sabalenka's dealt with it. Then serving 3-1 Sabalenka, I thought Rabatkin had played a brilliant game to get the break back. Kind of what David's talking about. Rabatkin is able to bring her own firepower to this matchup. And I thought Rabatkin had played a brilliant game to get it back. So Sabalenka then had a break point in the next game to build a 4-2 lead.
21:57And she missed one of those returns off a kick serve by a couple of inches, something like that. But she went for it. It wasn't a bad return. She just missed it. And that makes it 3-all. And that was the game, the 3-all game, where I think Sabalenka totally lost her way in this match. I thought, having lost that lead, that was where the stress seemed to build up. and maybe a little bit of panic set in about, oh my goodness, is this slipping away? And she really gave that game away with several errors to Rabatkinner and it felt like Sabalenka was in her own head at that point. And afterwards, Rabatkinner just was sublime and didn't allow Sabalenka to get back into it.
22:46But if I had to pick out a game and then for the rest of the match, her body language was kind of negative and poor, Savalenka, it would be that three-all game in the third set. Whereas Rabatkin has just been in press just now talking about how much less stressful this Grand Slam final and whole Grand Slam run has been compared to her last Grand Slam title at Wimbledon in 2021. She referenced how much restless sleep she had or how much lost sleep she had during that Wimbledon run. She kind of volunteered this, actually, to say that that was stressful in this one. She'd been sleeping well. I'd heard Blair Henley report earlier that she adjusted her sleeping pattern for today in anticipation of the night match.
23:36She didn't get up until 1pm, which obviously we all find very relatable today.
23:45And, yeah, that's interesting, isn't it? I mean, I'm so reluctant to fall into the trap of just because she's not outwardly somebody that emotes in a demonstrative way doesn't mean she doesn't have emotions. but there is ice in her veins there is an extraordinary calm in these moments never more evidenced by the point before match point the point to go up match point where she tossed the ball in the air to serve and there was a very loud cry from the crowd most players would have caught the ball I think any other player would have caught the ball and she just bombed it it wasn't an ace but it was a fantastic first serve, bombed it down didn't blink, won the point and then the next point she hits an ace and I was like no one else is doing that I honestly think she didn't even hear that cry from the crowd whereas all the other thousands of every single other person in that stadium heard it yeah she she came across as really unflappable in the moment um and just delivered and it's uh you know that you were talking about comparing it to the the final that they played here three years ago i i think the one big difference there was they both played well at the same time for a lot of it i didn't feel like that was happening here i felt like they both had their their spells and it was rebecca and his spell that ended up being the last one of the two.
25:32But it was a compelling final, really enjoyable. But it does complete, at least for now, a return to where she was in 2021 because she's won another grandson title. Had somebody told me when she won that Wimbledon that five years later would be the next time she'd win one, I would have been very surprised, very surprised because of the manner in which she plays the sport. She seems to have no real weakness at all. She has the most wonderful ball strike. She's tall. She's not afraid to volley. She's got the best serve on the tour. And yet she's gone nearly five years between Grand Slam titles. Now, an awful lot, as we know, happened over the last couple of years in her world.
26:21her coach suspended by the WTA. She talked an awful lot about the problems with insomnia she'd been having, loads and loads of tournaments she withdrew from with ill health. Certainly the last six months, she hasn't been pulling out of these tournaments. She's been having success. She won the WTA finals. there's just been a sense of calm out on the court that there didn't used to be or at least they might have looked at it in her face but there was all this noise that was being made on the sidelines all the time and there's noise now but it's a different type and it certainly seems as though her performances on the court are matching up accordingly.
27:11And I do think it's in terms of sort of what does this mean and what now for Elena Rabakina which is kind of a conversation we have to have but the fact that I'm sure if we go back to 2021 and our pod after she won Wimbledon we would all have been predicting that she would have been plenty more and do do more than she's done in the last five years quite frankly so that makes it that makes it tricky I mean it's always tricky isn't it projecting into the future but I do think the fact that she won the WTA finals at the end of last year I know she lost in Brisbane to Mukhova didn't she so it's not like she's undefeated but this this hasn't happened in isolation like she there was a stat that was pulled out in the press conference that she's won more matches on tour going back to last summer I think to Wimbledon than anybody else like this is the culmination of quite a consistent or a very very consistent spell now, which makes me think that this might be a new normal for Elena Rabakina, possibly.
28:19She's up to world number three now. Are we getting the big three again? Is that where we are? Well, there's nobody else who has caused Sabalenka the trouble that she's caused her. And beaten her handily so many times. That in itself is pretty telling. I think about how dangerous she is. You know, Matt, you talked about how Iga Svantec had managed to reverse their rivalry of late and had been getting the better of it. But she's beaten her this last week. And surface-wise, I think there's only clay where there are, to me, clearly better players than her. and there are clearly issues with her ball strike where I don't think it necessarily is going to be as effective because it doesn't have the spin on the ball that the others do.
29:18It doesn't mean she can't play on it. I mean, she's... She reached a couple of quarterfinals at Roelan Gale. Yeah, I mean, she is perfectly capable of being competitive on that surface. It's just that I think she could win all the other three grand slams. She's already won two of them. I certainly think she's capable of winning the US Open. I think that course is perfectly set up for her. If she was fit and if she was well and playing well, there's no reason why she couldn't win it. And she could get better because the serve, I mean, the fact that she's won this final today against Irina Sabalenka, serving, what, 55 % or something like that, first serves in.
29:55And she hasn't had a particularly high first serve percentage in any of her last three matches against the top players. That's the highest of the last three matches. Yeah, I just feel like that should, if you are a Rebecca and a fan, that should excite you. The thought that, I mean, you know, Goran Iwnezovic was dropped a note afterwards and said she is one of the very best players. I'm not surprised at all that she's won this title. A year ago, he was, I think, probably going to take her serve to another level, potentially. If she gets that, if she gets that reliability with it, what a prospect.
30:38We just mentioned in Goran there, obviously he was coaching her here 12 months ago. At that time, Rabakkin's coach, Stefano Vukov, was banned from being accredited at the Australian Open, from attending her matches. He was then formally banned by the WTA. He appealed that. The ban was revoked. He's back coaching her. I mean, I think he was involved on the sidelines, not in a public facing way, even 12 months ago, but obviously not formally. But now because of the mission that the Australian Open has to elevate and celebrate the role of coaches with this trophy presentation to the coach of the winner at the start of the presentation ceremony.
31:29Sorry, not at the start. Obviously, there's the building of the stage. Then the cleaning of the stage. could we not get a could we not have a stage made out of a surface that doesn't need wiping maybe just don't have a stage yeah we'll just don't have a stage anyway sorry build the stage you get everyone up on the stage you get Jennifer Capriati walking out onto Rod Laver arena which is a lovely moment 25 years since she won her first title here and she's so absent from the sport isn't she and she's somebody that you just worry about you know because she's been through so much but it was wonderful to see her back so yeah all that happened and then you had the presentation to the coach and it was a it was an awkward uncomfortable moment wasn't it seeing Stefano Vukov receive that trophy and look I I think it's a wonderful I think the sentiment behind the elevation of coaches is a good and admirable one and I know it extends beyond just that trophy presentation I know there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes that they try and do here to make coaches feel valued.
32:35And that's brilliant. I personally think, and I thought it, I can't remember if I said it on the pod, but I thought even from last year when they introduced it, I think it's a bit of a misfire.
32:50For a couple of reasons, really. I think, number one, so often top players don't just have one coach. Sort of nominating one person to receive a trophy doesn't quite feel right. It feels a bit like square peg round hole type thing. Number two, just the optic, I mean, the first time it happened last year, the optics were Madison Keyes just won a maiden trophy, but let's give her male coach and husband a trophy first. like that just was a bit irksome to me and then we had the moment we had the moment tonight I just it's coming it's coming I see the place it's coming from and that's great but I just don't think it works and obviously tonight was a particularly extreme example of how it felt very uncomfortable yeah it did feel uncomfortable and I I got the sense that a lot of people in the crowd were uncomfortable with it i i thought that maybe a lot of people knew about vukov's history like maybe i'm wrong there i think generally generally tennis crowds know no less about tennis than i expect them to but it it did feel like a very muted applause and just very awkward i think the other thing is i think a lot of people because you're on a stadium most people don't even know what's going on where where a coach is concerned you're not nobody's thinking about the coach in a moment like that it's it they're thinking about the players um they that's what they're there to celebrate and to my mind the players get to get a chance to thank that their team so i think that it can all be done in that moment i don't think there's a need for it really i mean but by all means maybe give them something afterwards recognize It's just behind the scenes.
34:46It doesn't need to be on the stage. It also doesn't need to be there.
34:55Matt, please, please don't mistake my tone here for leading in any way because that is not the intention. But Elena Rebecca has previously been on the backhand list. So I simply must ask about whether you're having any feelings. It was pretty good tonight, wasn't it? It's been pretty good all tournament. Like, of course, she's been on the backhand list. She's on the watch list. For now, she's going to remain on the watch list. I'm just not quite ready to make a backhand list announcement. There's been some turbulence recently. There has. Do you want a period of stability? Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
35:34But please know that I love the Elena Rebecca in the backhand. And Emma Adekarni is on notice. Yeah, I would say so. Saw a video today of her arriving in Cluj. Gosh. Tennis comes at you fast, doesn't it? It does come at you fast, yeah. Yeah, Hannah put on the barge a re-backhand list, followed by an apology because she knew I wouldn't like that. Right, yeah. I just thought I'd shout it out because, you know, deep down I enjoyed it, even if I have to hate it for the bit. And I don't like puns except usually Hannah's. and you don't like team names but you've come up with Defani and are trying to make it happen well that's because it's my team mine and Matt's team isn't it okay uh do we have anything else to say before I before I move us on no no I just I I do think I'm curious to know what you think in terms of Rabakina's sort of prospects for this year?
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36:39Do you think she'll win another Grand Slam tournament as we sit here right now? Because I realise I've said so many players are going to win a Grand Slam tournament, I'm sort of running out of tournaments. It seems to be always that we've just seen her win a Grand Slam tournament, so it feels like Elena Rabakina is winning Grand Slam tournaments, but, you know, Emerita Karni has just arrived in Cluj. Tennis comes at you fast. Things change. Look, Fiontech, I think, will most likely be the favourite going into the French. Probably. I think Wimbledon's the one. Wimbledon's the one.
37:23I wouldn't want to have my mortgage on it, no. But of course it feels very, very, very possible. She could very easily be the favourite coming into Wimbledon, I think. Yeah. Yes, I think so. Or she could be really out of form. Yeah. It does feel difficult to say this far out. I think I feel more confident giving longer range predictions about Sviontek and Sabalenka and even Goff because they've just proved over a very long period that they're contenders for majors and they're really consistent. Even, you know, as much as this run of form from Rabatkinner is absolutely making me take notice and think about her differently.
38:18And I still don't think she's quite in the category that the others are in, in terms of year round consistency. But, yeah, like that serve, those ground strokes, the fact that there's no obvious winner of Wimbledon. Like the fact that if you go back through the years, what we've had, we've had Vondrosheva, we've had Krejcikova, we've had Svriantek. You know, like there's no one who's like dominated at Wimbledon. So it just naturally feels quite open to me. But I would say, like, what she's done here will... I feel like I'm going to be putting Rebecca in mixes in a way that I think we did around the time she won Wimbledon and for a little bit after having reached us around Open final.
39:10But I think in the last year or so, I'd stopped putting her in Grand Slam mixes. There have been too many... I agree. Too many just sort of doubts about whether she would actually bring it at a slam. But now it feels like she's back in that conversation again. Obviously, because she's just won one. An Australian Open trophy and back in the mix. Big. Big day for Elena Rabakini. Potentially the backhand list. Absolutely. I'm not sure that's what Matt said. I said potentially. Potentially. Not right now. Let's see how Cluj goes. Just enjoy the trophy for now, Elena. All eyes on Cluj. What a tournament.
39:49What a performance. We've got to have a reason to get into Cluj, haven't I? Right, folks, that's it for part one. We'll be back in part two with Sensation of the Day. But first, folks, a word from our wonderful sponsors of the Tennis Podcast throughout the Australian Open. It is, as you know, Steve Fergals International Tennis Tours, the premium hospitality and experience provider and an official ticket and travel package provider for Roland Garros 2026. and with Steve Fergels you can do Roland Garros the official way and that means you're guaranteed peace of mind and a faff free experience at one of the most beautiful sporting events in the whole world and tennis podcast listeners can save 10 % on Roland Garros ticket packages and that features those official tickets you can also add premium hospitality options onto that as well you can do Roland Garros however you like, whatever suits you, whatever your dream trip is.
40:48Steve Fogles can make it happen all the official way. So just go to toursfortennis.com forward slash podcast. That's toursthenumbertennis.com forward slash podcast and save 10 % with the code PARIS10. We'll see you there. Welcome back to part two of today's tennis podcast, where we have some other fascinating results to bring you unfortunately none of them involve winning australians we we've reached we've reached the end of the road a pretty good run good run this has happened way later than i feared i thought sensation of the day was might fizzle out yeah but the problem is nobody's bought us beers today uh maybe that says something has anybody had a positive experience with some Australians today?
41:38I met some. Met some and they were really nice and they asked for like, you know, a chat and to tell us that they liked the podcast. One of them was called Steve. Okay, we have Steve. We met Lauren, who you met the other day. Yeah. David and I met Lauren. Okay. She's lovely. Okay, we have Steve, we have Lauren. I think Lauren's the clubhouse leader because she's met us separately and she had merch the other day. Okay, we have Steve, we have Lauren. I potentially need to throw into the mix Olivia Gadecki and John Pears because I owe them an apology for taking an Australian Open title away from them yesterday.
42:15I said they'd lost in the final last year and actually they'd won that final. I got my sensations confused because they beat other sensations in last year's final, Kim Birrell and JP Smith. So they have defended that title and they've won back-to-back Australian Open titles, but they did win Sensation of the Day yesterday. I know, but, you know, we've got making up to do. So we've got Steve, we've got Lauren, and we've got an apology sensation of the day for Olivia Gadecki and John Pears. What do we think? Do we have to award sensation of the day? I think we've come this far, Matt, yeah. OK. I was thinking, you know...
42:58Roll it over. I'm not sure we'll have anything... People are going to have to buy us beers big time tomorrow. Maybe there isn't a sensation of the day. Maybe that's OK. I think that's a tough scene now that we've brought up Lauren and Steve. Yeah, I agree. To bring up Lauren and Steve and then say... And then take it away from them. And then say, you're not... You're not worthy. Yeah. Yeah. Gosh, I feel bad now. OK. Lauren, Steve or Olivia and John? I'm going Lauren. I'm going Lauren. It's yours, Lauren. Congratulations. the women's doubles title was won by Zhang Shui and Elisa Mertens over Anna Danilina and Alexandra Krunic 7664 it was a lovely scene Sam Stoza was presenting the trophy obviously she won the women's doubles title a few years ago with Zhang Shui that was a lovely moment and it obviously meant a lot to Zhang they said that the partnership came about really last minute again always fascinated by how all that happens behind the scenes but they have confirmed they're continuing they're going to play Doha and Dubai together Alexandra Krunic is a is a character isn't she her speeches whether they're winner's speeches or runners-up speeches are their appointment viewing yeah I mean you sort of felt for you feel for teams when they've lost or players when they've lost that they have to take the mic.
44:24She wasn't bothered at all by that. She wasn't disappointed. I mean, she was disappointed to lose, of course, but she likes a microphone in her hand. I think I have heard her speak before, and it really is something. So well done to her. And just on Mertens and Jung, I realised they won, so obviously they're going to be happy, but they had a lovely vibe between them. I thought, crikey, when you see this, you understand why singles players want to play doubles. It's not only helping to furnish your bank account and give you success. It just must make them feel so much happier, I think, to be on the circuit.
45:05Heck of a run from Zhang and Mertens. They saved three match points, if you remember, in the second round against Ivo Jovic and Victoria Mboko. A match that Jovic told everybody afterwards that when she and Mboko arrived on court for their first round match, they didn't even know what the format was of the doubles. Such was the last minute-ness of their decision to play. So congratulations, Zhang and Mertens. Also congratulations to Neil Skubski and Christian Harrison, who have won their first Grand Slam title together as a team. and Christian Harrison's first Grand Sam title, full stop. They beat the Sensations in the final, 7-6, 6-4, over Jason Kubler and Mark Polman.
45:53They go back a long way, Skubski and Harrison. They both have links to LSU, Louisiana State University, played their first match together as a pair in 2013. Apparently it went really badly. Goodness. And they stopped playing together very soon after. A lot of tears flowing after this match. Yeah, I think it's obviously a really big deal for Christian Harrison. He talked a lot about what it meant to the family when he saw his brother Ryan win a men's doubles title at the French Open in 2017, I think it was. So to follow in those footsteps is a big deal. And he's had a lot of injuries, Christian Harrison.
46:33And then for Neil Skubsky, he obviously has been playing very successfully with Joe Salisbury and Joe Salisbury is taking a mental health break from the sport, which is obviously tough for him and we wish him well, but also a tricky situation for Neil Skubsky and potentially tricky in how his interim partnership is going so well. But it was a heck of a performance, Davis Cup atmosphere. It was good stuff, this one. Yeah, Ryan Harrison and Ken Skopsky, the brothers, who are so instrumental in the coaching of these players as well. They were there, basically arm in arm and both in floods of tears, hugging their brothers.
47:17And it was a nice scene. And speaking of nice scenes or certainly emotional scenes, a lot of those in the wheelchair events today. We had Niels Vink completing the career Golden Slam on the Keir Arena. We watched this in the flat this morning in a sort of semi-conscious state after getting to bed at 5am. He beat Sam Schroeder 6-3, 7-6. He'd twice lost in the final here, Vink. And Schroeder was the four-time defending champion. And both times that Vink had lost in the final, it was to Schroeder. and he'd also won the doubles with Guy Sassen yesterday had Niels Vink so incredible from him and he said I completed tennis afterwards I'm only 23 and I've completed tennis and he said I'm going to celebrate the hell out of this so somewhere in Melbourne right now Niels Vink is having a good time and that is very well deserved he also dedicated that title to his long-time coach Hans-Jürgen Striek, who passed away not long after the US Open last year.
48:33He had a picture of him, didn't he, on the court that he was holding up just after he won. It was all really, really emotional. He said, we started the journey together and we wanted to finish it to win them all. But sadly, he didn't make it to this one. So a beautiful tribute and very emotional scenes. We had Li Zhaohui beating Dida Dehout in 50 minutes in the women's wheelchair singles final 6-1, 6-2. That's her first major singles title. It's been coming, this one. These Chinese players are really on the rise and it's going to be interesting whether this is, you know, reaching the final here is a big deal for Dehout.
49:16her first singles final since that hip surgery. It's interesting to see if this is, you know, part of an upward trajectory for her in terms of the comeback or whether this is as good as it gets. You know, only time will tell, but 50 minutes, one and two is pretty chastening today. We had a very competitive men's wheelchair singles final. Dramatic one between Tiquito Oda and Martin de la Puente. He played on two different courts, two stoppages for rain, ended up finishing under the roof on the second court, won by Tiquito Oda, 3-6, 6-2, 6-2, his eighth major singles title. And he now holds all four at the same time.
50:01He's done the Oda slam and he's still a teenager. It's astonishing. I mean, we started watching that at the flat before the rain began. And there was an immediate break of serve from De La Puente, who's never won a Grand Slam title. You know, here he was in the final. He goes a break up. He's won the first set. I mean, it would have been an enormous upset if he managed to beat Oda, who's, you know, the star, the young star of the sport. and in this match I got a real understanding of why he's that star because when the match resumed under the roof on the second court there Matt and I went over to watch he'd already levelled up at one set all by that time when we got over there for the third set and there was a series of points that I'll just describe to you at 4-1 in the third set Oda, he got caught slightly out of position at the net and he hit a half volley drop shot at the last second um just a reaction shot really wasn't it just sudden soft hands um and and the crowd i mean we were all just gasping at how he'd softened his hands in order to pull that off yeah the ball was still on the rise when he hit it and he made it a drop shot like I I cannot get my head around how how difficult that was and he did it sort of nonchalantly and casually but it was it was outrageous skill he then the next point he hit a sort of Stan Wawrinka type backhand cross court winner in just a normal rally um and then And several times he hit clean winner forehands, just whipping the racket through, the tiny take back, and the racket head speed he's got is nothing like I've seen in the wheelchair game, quite honestly.
52:04He is taking it to new heights. He also charges the net. He finishes balls off. It's amazing. Yeah, it was my first time watching him live, and I already got it, but I really get it now. He's special. He's very special. And I think in particular what I noticed was how much quicker he was after the serve than De La Puente. Like he's able to hit a good serve and then be so ready for the rest of the point. Whereas De La Puente is hitting a serve and he hasn't got time to react to Oda's return so often. Yeah, he was fantastic in that final set. and kind of de la Puente's grunts just turned into strains as he was trying to keep up with Oda.
52:55I was watching this thinking, will you two just try harder, for goodness sake? Put some welly into it, will you? And look, Hannah said it in our chat, it feels like what's happening in Men's Tennis Without Cries and Sinner, what Oda's doing, like separating himself and just showing that there's a different level. and he played well De La Puente, got a set, but by the end, it was just absolutely no match for him. He's got eight major singles titles. He's 19. The outright record holder is Shingo Kaneda, his countryman on 28. Like, obviously, things can happen, but he's tracking to overtake that and then some.
53:44And I get the sense we haven't interviewed him. It's a big part of our plans to get the chance to interview him. But I've spoken to a Japanese journalist about him who has interviewed him. And I get the impression he very much is the type of character that is hungry for the big records. And that's very exciting. Yeah, he is extraordinary. David, we had the inaugural Blind and Low Vision Invitational event at the Australian Open today. It's the first Grand Slam to integrate blind and low vision events into their program, BLV events. It took place yesterday and today and will be concluding tomorrow as well.
54:3116 of the world's top BLV players in a team event, Team Australia versus Team World. And it features the world number one men's player, Naki Rizvi from Great Britain, who you met recently. Yeah, he introduced himself to me at the British Tennis Journalist Association lunch in December. Honestly, it was such a pleasure to speak to him. He loves audio shows where he can follow the sport. He's listened to Five Live commentary for years. And, you know, he wanted to spread the word. He was there speaking to me and to all the journalists about what he does. and what he does is absolutely remarkable.
55:17He's the world number one blind tennis player. He told me that he was coming to Melbourne to compete in this. It was the first time that this has ever happened, so he was really thrilled that the sport was being recognised in this way for the first time. He had with him the tennis ball that he uses for blind tennis, which has a jingling sound inside it so that he knows where the ball is when he wants to go and hit it. There are videos out there of him hitting with Jack Draper. And Draper's been very supportive in trying to help raise awareness of the sport and get it recognised. So that, I mean, the big goal for Naki is to have blind tennis treated as wheelchair tennis is and to be part of the Paralympics, to be part of the Grand Slams one day, as it is here, albeit as an invitational event.
56:07But he wants it to be a competitive, sanctioned event. and that's the goal long term. But he was amazing to chat to, really infectious in the way he spoke about just the sport of tennis and how much he loves it. He runs marathons. He does all sorts of sports, but very clearly tennis is the one that he's in love with. And yeah, I'm really pleased the Australian Open have started this and I hope it continues and grows. And you've got to start somewhere, haven't you? And it feels like they've kind of, you know, blazed a trail here, the Australian Open and hashtag Tennis United. Maybe the other slams all follow suit.
56:53And certainly in our research into wheelchair tennis, the Australian Open was the first slam to also make a wheelchair event part of the same Grand Slam fortnight as the rest of the sport. And that, OK, started small at first, but ended up really growing and it just allowed more people to watch it while everyone's, you know, while the eyes are on the Australian Open. And yeah, this seems like a really good step that's been taken. Tomorrow, our final order of play on the Rod Laver Arena. All the action comes from the Rod Laver Arena tomorrow on day 15 of the Australian Open. It's the junior girls final first.
57:40We have the Russian Ekaterina Tupitsina. If you can't tell, I haven't heard of her before. But we'll try and have a look and let you know if she's one to watch. She's unseeded is Tupitsina. she's taking on the third seed from France Ksenia Efremova who I know the French media here are very excited about so we'll definitely try and have a look at that we'll get Matt to have a look at that he's our resident talent spotter you can't be the guy that boasts about seeing Carlos Alcaraz at 13 and predicting great things and not be our talent spotter for junior events Matt I don't have to boast about it someone came up to me the other day and said you put me on to Carlos Alcaraz it was a listener called Harry wasn't it it was yeah I liked Harry a lot yeah I said didn't Carlos Alcaraz get you into Carlos Alcaraz Harry and he said no it was Matt okay yeah so that's the junior girls final that is followed by the junior boys final where we have the fourth seed Keaton Hans from the US against the seventh seed from Slovenia, Zigo Sesko.
58:54These are good names. So we'll do some scouting tomorrow. We'll let you know if there's anything to look out for. Then there is one more match. From 7.30, the final match of the Australian Open, Carlos Alcaraz against Novak Djokovic. And we'll preview that in part three. Welcome back to part three of today's tennis podcast, where it's 1.25 in the morning. The leaf blowers are going. they really want us to leave, but there is one last important bit of business to discuss. The men's singles final at the Australian Open 2026. Al Karaz or Djokovic David, who will make history tomorrow? This has got to be one of the toughest ones that I have really had to think about in the last however many years.
59:42I think there have been similar difficulties trying to work out between Sinner and Alcaraz in their matches. But because of the stakes, there's so much evidence from the past of how these two players perform when they have these type of stakes that I find it really difficult to know how to decide between them. because my instinct is to say Alcaraz in something like four or five sets. But then I think that's what I said when they played each other in the Olympic final. And Novak Djokovic, when he really needed to, when it was all on the line, found something. And he could hurt Alcaraz. It's what I thought a year ago when Alcaraz was playing Djokovic in the quarterfinals.
1:00:34and again it seemed preposterous that Djokovic with an injury could come back from a set down and win but he did and he definitely has some sort of mental ability to influence what goes on in their matches but it's not just that it's also his tennis level and we saw it again last night we saw it against Yannick Sinner the guy that I thought was probably impenetrable and impervious to what Djokovic can do. Well, he proved that that's not the case. Under the lights, especially if it's indoors, there's no guarantee that it will be. I kind of hope it's outdoors. I'd rather have those elements. But if it was indoors and it was still, and it is actually expected to be windy tomorrow, which is an interesting little wrinkle to everything.
1:01:21But yeah, Djokovic's level can hurt Alcaraz again. I think on balance, with Djokovic going for 25th, grand slam it's the best chance i think he will ever have i think it might might be the last chance because i don't think he'll ever get this good where he'll have had withdrawals from matches like jakub menchik like retirements from two sets down against lorenzo mazzetti um i'm not sure it gets any better than that really to to feel this fresh when you get to the end of a grand slam for it to be a place where you've won 10 titles um to be a night session with the world watching against the guy that you've beaten handily a couple of times now but i'm still going to go alcaraz in the end because he's got a 16 year age gap and it's not about the night itself in isolation it's about which of them recovers better from yesterday and i think whilst jokovic is level is still good enough to beat Alcraz on a given day I'm not sure we can play like he did against Sinner again on a 48-hour turnaround and I may look stupid in in 24 hours time I I.E.
1:02:43Djokovic may do it and prove that wrong he's done it to me several times but that's my view on this one. I think Alcaraz is maturing with every passing Grand Slam, with every experience he's having. He's gaining more and more experience and getting stronger and better. And I think now that he's found a way past what he did yesterday against Ferov, I think he'll take this title and become the youngest career Grand Slam holder in the men's game ever. Matt? Yeah, I've written down similar thoughts to you David I've written down the number one thing to me then the biggest aspect feels like how are they going to hold up physically and that applies to both of them because they both sort of went through the ringer last night and despite Alcaraz suffering more physically I do I do give him the edge there in terms of being able to to bounce back in that way because he's because he's so much younger, obviously.
1:03:51Obviously, going into the cinema, I had question marks over Djokovic's form, quite frankly, and whether he'd have the level. Well, he emphatically showed that he does. I do think, though, the conditions are important here. And if the match is played outdoors and it's cold and windy, is Djokovic able to play in quite the same way that he was able to last night against Sinner? I'm not sure. I do think he needs his night session conditions. If it's windy and he doesn't have to strike on the ball, I think that's going to be a problem for Djokovic. It's like we've got... The scenario is our best-case scenario for Djokovic, which is night session roof closed, or kind of...
1:04:40Well, not worst case, because day session windy is worst case. But I think wind is really bad for Djokovic. Really, really bad. I wonder how much it will be impacting things in that shape of stadium. Will wind get in there? It has to be very windy to really feel windy on Rod Laver, is my experience. But the forecast is tomorrow for it to be really windy. Yeah, but dying down in the evening. Right. I do think most of this match is going to be played between 8 and 10, 11. It should be 7.30, but faff, yeah. Right, that's why I went 8. Yeah. And I think by then it will have calmed down from very high winds during the day.
1:05:25And I should say there's no rain forecast, but if there is a single drop of wind, Team Djokovic... If they've got any sense. Yeah. Yeah, they'll be logging. Close that thing. So, yeah, look, I do think that's important here. But ultimately, I do come out on the same side as David. I am going Alcaraz from a physical standpoint and also ultimately from the level as well. You know, I do think Djokovic played as well as he possibly can at this stage in his career last night against Sinner. and Sina, he still had a lot of chances, you know, like Djokovic had to produce one of the most clutch performances of his career in that final set, saving so many break points and he may well do that again.
1:06:21I suppose I'm just slightly banking on that not happening again and if it does go into a fifth, I think being in a fifth with Carlos Alcaraz is an entirely different proposition to being in a fifth with Yannick Sinner. You know, Alcaraz has got the record in the fifth set that Sinner doesn't have. And also, I do think Alcaraz is a better player now than when he played Djokovic here last year and when he played him at the Olympics. You know, his serve, for one, is better and his consistency in matches is better. I still I still think the time at the US Open last year when he played Djokovic was possibly his worst performance of that entire tournament Alcaraz even though he won in straight sets I do still think there is some degree to which Djokovic rattles Alcaraz a little bit and the only time Alcaraz has beaten him really convincingly was the second Wimbledon final they played and that was an outrageously good serving day from Alcarez.
1:07:29If he can bring that again, that's going to be important for him. It was also Djokovic very quickly off surgery. You know, he wasn't himself in that final, I don't think. That's a lot of rambling to say that I'm going Alcarez for physical reasons and I think he's going to, you know, I do think he's also got the game to live with even Djokovic playing really well. But it's a hell of a prospect with so much history on the line and that feeling, because I agree with David, this does feel like Djokovic's best chance and he will know that, I think, and he will be gunning for it. And Akron is going to have to dig very deep, I think, to get past that.
1:08:18I keep thinking about that Olympics final, but then I keep thinking that was best of three sets. So I agree with everything you've both said. I also always pick Alcaraz. So it would be weird for me to not now. So I am going to pick Alcaraz. And yet that for all of us to be picking Alcaraz makes it seem, I think, far more heavily weighted towards Alcaraz than we actually think it is. it's a mix of two none of us are going to be surprised if we're sitting here tomorrow night talking about Djokovic but I am going to go after this after the Rebecca title when we were waiting for her press conference they showed the fifth set between him and Sinner and honestly I think that is one of the most staggering achievements from a tennis player David was making noises like it was live again oh I can't believe he did that It's so great to watch it back.
1:09:18I mean, being in the stadium and then to watch it on TV. Yeah. Oh, special stuff. And look, it's been a slightly odd sort of day here at Melbourne Park because I think I'm right in saying that neither of the two men's finalists have hit. They've had a day off. It's kind of this weird feeling. Like, it was all about the recovery today for them. And look, for Al Karez... And us. Right. for Alcaraz we've not you know we've seen him cramp before in matches but I can't really remember like seeing him have to come back so soon after that and play another match like I assume he's going to be okay but like what was the physical toll like I think I think that is a question mark here and not just the cramping the puking you know it was a whole it was a whole situation and he was talking about it in terms of the combination of being out in the heat and the stress the heat's not going to be there but the stress is and i do think that was a massive factor in terms of why he cramped and there's nobody who makes him stress like chock right exactly and the grandstand final like it would also not surprise me if we're talking about alcaraz cramping again and like and that to me is a route for Djokovic to win this.
1:10:40So good. I'm going to be watching this on about three hours sleep, I've just realised, because it's 1.37 in the morning and I'm going on Australian TV at 8am, or certainly my call time is 8am, so fun day tomorrow for me. Yeah.
1:11:02I can't wait. I really think it's going to be a great final day. We're very lucky to have this story, to have this scenario where whatever happens, even if it's a dud match, it's history. Right? There's no terrible scenario here. I just hope they both fit throughout. Yeah. Obviously, you don't want a dud. Please, not a dud. But we'll still have talking points. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. We're not going to be having to dig out the one-point slam chat again. Folks, we have lovely Gus, our mascot. I'm looking at a picture of Gus mid-air launching herself into some water, which is apparently something she does quite often.
1:11:48Perfectly. Her true passion is a full commitment launch into the water, proper belly flop style, says Renee. And this is an airborne moment from last summer. that I'm watching. She could not be happier, says Renee, about Gus. We love Gus. We love, well, I love Bodhi. I've rocketed up to seventh, Matt, on the leaderboard. I believe so. And there's, What a comeback. There's exciting things happening in the competition. I believe we've got five potential winners. Wow. Are any of them David Law? No. They're not any of us. None of us can win. I'm just happy to be anywhere, quite frankly. David's had a bit of a disaster.
1:12:39This is what happens when I'm sensible. I'm not doing that again. So apologies to Maisie. Roger, Matt's doing just fine. Mid-table. Mid-table. Lower mid-table. Yeah, do subscribe to the newsletter for full details of how all that's going and of the drama of tomorrow. Hello to our top folks and executive producers, Greg, Chris and Jeff. Let's have some shout outs tonight, Matt. We have two shout outs tonight. The first is for Stephen Malloy. Hello, Stephen Malloy. Hi, Stephen. We know Stephen. Stephen posted on the barge tonight about how he'd got everything right in his predictions with his mate on WhatsApp.
1:13:22We need to see the receipts for that. Oh, he did. He posted a screenshot and there was Rabakina. He's also said Alcaraz. So, you know, he's very, very smug. Which is just our kind. Stephen says, After hearing David waxing lyrical about finally attending Roland Garros, my family and I decided that getting my dad to Paris for his first live tennis experience as a 70th birthday present would be right on the money. Our very first match was Fies-Munar on Longleg. The last time I saw Art of Fies. The most David Law coded match I could imagine. Wow. Safe to say, we peaked early. Did we know Stephen was there for that in our midst?
1:14:08I chatted to Stephen later in the day on Longland. And yes, I knew he was there. Yeah, Stephen's great. He's extremely funny. Yeah, we love you, Stephen. And finally, we have Brian Terry from Queens, New York. Hello, Brian. All right, Brian. And you're going to love this. Brian says, I'm writing this message, sat in front of my TV next to my new friend, Nayan, watching Mboko Towson in the third round of the Australian Open. Nayan and I met at the Tennis Podcast live event in New York City last year and became friends, attending a few matches at the US Open together, meeting up for other tennis-related events and exchanging TTP inside jokes in our WhatsApp chat.
1:14:56I know you'd like to hear about your ever-growing extended podcast family, so I just thought I'd share. And we also agreed that Mboko Towson was a very TTP-coded match to watch together. Brian. I love it. Isn't that great? Yeah. That is so lovely. So cool. Really, really lovely. We met someone last week. Might have given them sensation of the day. It's all a blur now. No, because they were British. Met someone last week who had come here on his own. Kevin. Kevin, and was looking and was like, you know, I'd love to come with a mate, but none of my mates are into tennis. And you said, get on the barge, Kevin.
1:15:35I hope Kevin's done that. I hope so. The barge is where it's happening, folks. If you'd like to get access to the barge, our community platform, all of our bonus episodes, ad-free listening, Hannah's column, all the fun of the fair, then the link to become a friend of the tennis podcast is in our show notes. Folks, there is one more day to come. There is one more tennis podcast to come. We are part of the Athletic Podcast Network, Charlie Eccleshare, probably as many regrets as Irina Sabalenka right now. Yes, he picked Rabakina right up until he didn't. Yeah. one of those kids at school that like got into the band before they were big and then once they get big we're like oh no no i'm on i've found another rinky dink band to support now he's blaming 3am podcasting but that doesn't wash here charlie absolutely not well i mean given how much we get wrong maybe there's something uh thank you all for listening to all of our nonsense it's been a fun two weeks folks it's going to end on a high tomorrow we will be back tomorrow to talk about all of it we'll speak to you then
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At the end of women’s final night, Catherine, David and Matt discuss Elena Rybakina’s 6-4 4-6 6-4 win over Aryna Sabalenka as she became a two-time major champion.
Part one - All the talking points from the women’s final including Rybakina’s incredible start and finish, how Sabalenka lost her 3-0 lead in the decider, whether or not Sabalenka has a Grand Slam finals problem, the optics of Stefano Vukov receiving a trophy, and what this win could mean for Rybakina’s career.
Part two - A round up of all the doubles and wheelchair results, including an emotional Niels Vink completing the career Grand Slam, and our in-person Tokito Oda experience.
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