Aus Open Day 8 - The day the big guns arrived

25 Jan 2026 · 1 h 16 min · 28 chapters

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In short

Day 8 of the 2026 Australian Open (fourth round). The hosts complain about one-sided “thrashings” on the show courts, but highlight standout performances and the biggest off-court news: Jakub Mensik withdrew with an abdominal strain, giving Novak Djokovic a walkover and extra rest before the quarterfinal.

Key claims

  • Djokovic benefits massively from Mensik’s withdrawal, staying fresh for the quarterfinal and beyond; the hosts argue this improves his chances to close the gap on Sinner/Alcaraz.
  • Alcaraz looked like “US Open form” with a dominant forehand in his win over Tommy Paul, suggesting Djokovic would face a very high level if Alcaraz reaches the final.
  • Alex de Minaur’s demolition of Alexander Bublik signals he can “hurt” top players like Alcaraz, though the hosts expect “levels” to show in any matchup.
  • Lenny/“Lerner” Tien’s win over Medvedev was a major upset-style performance: Medvedev’s usual “no winners” rivalry pattern didn’t hold; Tien imposed power and winners.
  • Sabalenka’s match vs Victoria (Mboko) showed “Grand Slam levels,” especially her ability to neutralize power with soft hands and then overwhelm.

Notable examples (scores/results mentioned)

  • Mensik withdrew; Djokovic advances to face either Lorenzo Sonego? (hosts say quarterfinal vs Lorenzo Mazzetti or Taylor Fritz).
  • Alcaraz def. Tommy Paul 7-6, 6-4, 7-5.
  • de Minaur def. Alexander Bublik 6-4, 6-1, 6-1.
  • Lerner Tien def. Daniel Medvedev 6-4, 6-0, 6-3.
  • Coco Gauff def. Karolina Muchova 6-1, 3-6, 6-3.
  • Alina Svitolina def. Mirra Andreeva 6-2, 6-4.
  • Aryna Sabalenka def. Victoria Azarenka? (transcript says “Victoria and Boca”) 6-2, 7-6, with a decisive tiebreak.

Guests (people discussed as players, not podcast guests)

  • Novak Djokovic (38), Mensik’s scheduled opponent.
  • Jakub Mensik (withdrawing due to abdominal strain).
  • Carlos Alcaraz, Tommy Paul.
  • Alex de Minaur, Alexander Bublik.
  • Lerner Tien, Daniel Medvedev.
  • Coco Gauff, Karolina Muchova.
  • Alina Svitolina, Mirra Andreeva.
  • Aryna Sabalenka, Victoria “Mboko/Boca” (opponent named in transcript).
  • Alexander Zverev, Francisco Cerundolo (mentioned via Zverev’s win).

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Mixed Performances in Round Four

0:45 to 2:16

Discussion on the day's matches and standout performances including Svitolina and Alcaraz.

“particularly for Matt who I think is more of a purist than I am.”

Unexpected Withdrawal of Mensik

2:16 to 3:08

The hosts discuss Jakub Mensik's withdrawal due to injury and its implications.

“In fact, quite frankly, we'll get on to today's matches, but the biggest drama, the biggest news story of the day actually wasn't on the court.”

Djokovic's Luck and Strategy

3:08 to 6:05

Exploration of Djokovic's advantages following Mensik's withdrawal and his tournament strategy.

“when we talk through tomorrow's order of play.”

Alcaraz vs. Tommy Paul Analysis

6:05 to 11:34

Analysis of Alcaraz's performance against Tommy Paul and the challenges for competitors.

“to Yannick Sinner and Carlos Alcarez, I think.”

The Challenge of Competing with Top Players

11:34 to 14:00

Discussion on the pressures facing players like Tommy Paul in the current competitive landscape.

“And that must be such a difficult reality to cope with as an athlete where a healthy dose of delusion is an important part of an athlete's mindset, right?”

Diminishing Expectations: The Rise of Alex De Minaur

14:00 to 16:42

Analysis of Alex De Minaur's impressive performance and future matchups.

“He was a break-up all the way through it.”

Match Conditions and Expectations

16:42 to 18:50

Discussion on the upcoming match conditions and player expectations.

“But they've just played so often that I'd sort of be kidding myself if I'm hyping it up.”

Lerner Tien's Impressive Performance

18:50 to 22:30

Review of Lerner Tien's stunning victory over Daniel Medvedev and his potential.

“It is going to be boiling hot on Tuesday, even hotter than we had yesterday.”

A New Era for Lerner Tien

22:30 to 28:00

Exploration of Lerner Tien's evolution as a player and his impact in matches.

“But it feels like he's beefed up his game and he's beefed up his confidence.”

Analysis of Recent Matches

28:00 to 37:44

A deep dive into the performances of players like Zverev, Tien, and Medvedev.

“that that might be as well as he plays in this tournament because it was extraordinary but it felt within himself because he's so unflappable, TN.”
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Analysis of Recent Matches

37:45 to 37:55

A deep dive into the performances of players like Zverev, Tien, and Medvedev.

“Join us in part two when we've got a competitive match to discuss.”

Analysis of Recent Matches

37:58 to 39:11

A deep dive into the performances of players like Zverev, Tien, and Medvedev.

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Coco Goff vs. Karolina Mukova Match Review

39:23 to 42:05

Discussion of Coco Goff's match against Mukova, focusing on strategies and execution.

“Welcome back to part two of today's tennis podcast, where, as promised, we have a competitive match to talk about.”

Gauff vs. Mukova: Tactical Adjustments

42:05 to 44:25

Analyzing the tactical shifts during the Gauff vs. Mukova match.

“And you thought, wow, like Mukova wins that point against everyone else in the draw.”

Gauff's Performance and Confidence

44:25 to 46:45

Discussion on Gauff's serving and overall performance in the match.

“She saved some match points, an incredible style, did Mukova, but never was able to create a break point in that final game.”

Svitolina vs. Andreeva: Match Dynamics

46:45 to 49:41

Exploring the dynamics of the Svitolina vs. Andreeva match and its implications.

“She's 21-6 in three set matches at majors, which is maybe not a surprising record given what an athlete she is.”

Andreeva's Struggles and Crowd Reaction

49:41 to 52:47

Analysis of Andreeva's struggles during the match and the crowd's response.

“Because I really support Alina Svitolina's stance on this and not doing those handshakes.”

Svitolina's Resilience and Improvement

52:47 to 56:00

Highlighting Svitolina's performance and growth since her return.

“She's not suffering too many early defeats.”

Sabalenka's Dominance Over Mboko

56:00 to 58:20

Analyzing Sabalenka's impressive performance against Mboko in the match.

“with a slice on the forehand or backhand, puts it down low and then suddenly Mboka is required to just whip up a shot that is so difficult to hit aggressively for a winner, and it's suddenly back in Sabalenka's hands.”

Sabalenka's Tie Break Streak

58:20 to 1:00:50

Discussing Sabalenka's remarkable ability to win tie breaks and her recent records.

“Because, as we've been saying, Mboka was playing really well.”

Eva Jovic's Impressive Rise

1:00:50 to 1:03:10

Highlighting the achievements of 18-year-old Eva Jovic in the tournament.

“Right, so that's Sabalenka through to the quarterfinals where she will face 18-year-old Eva Jovic, who delivered the biggest beatdown of the day, guys.”

Anticipating the Quarterfinals

1:03:10 to 1:05:38

Looking ahead to the quarterfinal matches and Jovic's potential challenges.

“She's obviously done serious strengthening and serious work on her game and physicality.”

Sensation of the Day Discussion

1:05:38 to 1:08:20

Engaging in a light-hearted discussion about the day's standout performances.

“where I have just one submission for sensation of the day.”

Upcoming Matches Preview

1:08:20 to 1:10:06

Previewing the upcoming matches scheduled for the next day of the tournament.

“Rod Laver Arena tomorrow starting from 11.30 is Jessica Pergoula against Madison Keys.”

Match Scheduling Challenges

1:10:06 to 1:11:33

Discussion about the challenges of scheduling matches at the Australian Open.

“and the knowing at the time of putting out the schedule there was a high risk of the Djokovic-Mensic match not happening.”

Listener Shoutouts and Engagement

1:11:33 to 1:11:57

Acknowledging listeners and sharing their messages about the podcast.

“Hello to our lovely mascot, Gus, who I'm looking at a picture of sitting in front of some wine barrels, which is how she spends her day being a wine dog.”

Listener Stories and Tennis Memories

1:11:57 to 1:14:13

Listeners share their long-time connection with the podcast and tennis experiences.

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1:14:13 to 1:15:21

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0:10Well, hello and welcome to the tennis podcast coming to you from Melbourne Park at the very civilised hour of 11pm. All matches having finished for the day, thanks to frankly, a lot of absolute thrashings on the show courts in today's fourth round matches. and while we haven't quite had the thrilling contests we might have been hoping for and some of us are grumpier about that than others, we have had some players come out here and properly peacock on the big stages kind of showing their cards for the business end of the tournament which has been pretty fascinating in its own way particularly for Matt who I think is more of a purist than I am.

0:53there were a lot of performances today i enjoyed i've been waiting for arena savilenka to step up that happened today i've been waiting for carlos alcaraz to do the same that happened today and then we had a sort of unexpectedly incredible performance as well from lona tn not that i was expecting him to play badly or anything but he was even better than i thought he was going to be and, I don't know, maybe even made me think about him differently as a player going forward. So I absolutely share your frustration at the lack of good matches today. I want drama, Matt. I know you live for the drama.

1:36When's the drama going to come? I know. Brings Dan Wuthering come back. But I still think the tournament is set up well. We're going to keep promising that it's going to get good. It's going to happen, right? It's going to come alive. Just to give an idea of how much that drama feels like it was lacking, Matt and I have just come away from Alina Svitolina against Miriam Draver, which, you know, that was, what, 6-2, 6-4? And yet there were one or two moments in there that felt like your pulse really quickening. And it was 6-2, 6-4. That is how deprived we have been today. But it's coming, folks.

2:15It's coming. In fact, quite frankly, we'll get on to today's matches, but the biggest drama, the biggest news story of the day actually wasn't on the court. There was a delay to the order of play today. It came a lot later than it usually does. And we were speculating in our WhatsApp group with the guys from The Athletic about whether we'd heard any rumours about any reasons for that. and we hadn't. But then, early evening this evening, we got the really unexpected news that Jakub Mensik was withdrawing from the tournament ahead of his fourth round match scheduled for tomorrow against Novak Djokovic.

3:02And that explained a lot of things about both the delay in the schedule and the way the schedule is configured, which we'll come on to in part three when we talk through tomorrow's order of play. He said Mensik, and it's clearly a devastating decision. for him that an abdominal strain has progressed over his last matches and he's unable to compete properly tomorrow and that means that novak jokovic 38 year old novak jokovic who is three straight straight sets wins out of three as we were discussing yesterday now gets three days off ahead of a quarter-final with either Lorenzo Mazzetti or Taylor Fritz.

3:45It is another absolutely enormous slice of luck for Novak Djokovic. It really is, because he has expressed that one of the reasons he thinks he hasn't been able to keep up with Alcaraz and Sinner in the latter stages of slams over the last three slams is because of the accumulation of tennis in his legs and niggles in his body through the first few rounds of majors and that you know has happened he's got to those big matches and certainly at Wimbledon in the US Open been severely depleted taken to the court against his biggest rivals so he's put an absolute premium on on his favorite court in the world getting through the first few rounds of this tournament efficiently and straightforwardly and he'd done that for his first three matches and now he gets the opportunity to not even take to the court and remain fresh, extra fresh going into the quarterfinals against players who he has matched up extremely well against in the past in Taylor Fritz and Lorenzo Mazzetti.

4:57So it's great news I think for Djokovic you know like sometimes when there's a withdrawal like this i worry about will the player lose their rhythm that kind of thing i just don't really have those worries with novat djokovic given you know he he can go for so long now stretches without playing tennis and come back and the level's still there and he's so experienced so the the key for him is the freshness and not picking up any extra injuries and all that kind of thing. So it's massive. Whether it's defining in terms of being able to actually close that gap to Sinu and Alcaraz, especially if he has to play them back-to-back to win this thing, I still think that's a big ask.

5:42And I'm not sure one withdrawal from Mensek in the fourth round makes up that gap. But it gives him, you feel, more of a chance. and he can hang his hat on that and he can commit to that and he's going to be feeling good going into the latter stages of this tournament. And Novak Djokovic feeling like that remains a very, very dangerous player to Yannick Sinner and Carlos Alcarez, I think. Yeah, I'm not sure there would be a more grateful recipient of a walkover in either draw. Maybe Luciano Darderi. But probably not even Luciano Darderi. Like, who would want the walkover the most? Novak Djokovic would want that walkover the most.

6:29Well, given that he really is only here for a title. I mean, he's enjoying the process. He's enjoying the reaction of the fans to him. But basically, he wants a title. What are you suggesting Darderi's here for, David? I'd say he's got what he's here for. He's been in the newsletter. Listen, I'm sure he's already done incredibly well. Did you see him cramp on live TV, by the way, the other day? He was in an interview, on a panel interview in a studio, and poor guy had to stand up and try to stretch out a cramp whilst talking. But he's done incredibly well to get to the last 16. He's not a player I expected to be there.

7:09He is ranked, what is he, 22nd seed, so he's a very good player. Obviously, I'm sure he would love a walkover against Sinner, but he'd rather beat him. But at the same time, I think if he loses to Anik Sinna, he goes home feeling pretty good about his tournament still. Whereas Novak Djokovic, anything other than winning this title is not going to be enough. And I would remind you, aside from the freshness, which I do think is absolutely key if he's going to win this thing, it's Australia. Let's not forget this is Melbourne. and I know he hasn't won it the last two years, but he's actually only had one bad performance probably in the last 15 years.

7:52And that was against Sinner in the final two years ago, or a semi-final rather. He beat Alcraz here last year and then he was injured and he lost a second to Zverev and had to pull the cord. So level-wise, he believes, I think, that this is his best possible chance anyway as a tournament that he's won 10 times. plus he's fresh now. It's not going to get any better than this. This is as good as it gets for Novak Djokovic in terms of chances of winning major number 25. The problem is that, well, first and foremost, he's in Yannick Sinners' half of the draw. He would be his semi-final opponent. And Carlos Alcaraz today, Matt, looked supreme.

8:36We were talking after his last victory that he was really, really good. He's getting better as the tournament goes along. But this is not US Open form. Today looked like US Open form. Yeah, there were definite signs of that form, particularly on the forehand, I felt, where he just had total control over that shot. And what that means for Carlos Alcaraz is pretty much being able to do anything he likes with it. Inject pace into it, rally with it, maneuver Paul around with it. Like it was on fire, that shot. He was so good off that wing today. And Tommy Paul is such a interesting player against Carlos Alcaraz because for so much of it, he can hang with Carlos Alcaraz.

9:29He played really well today, Tommy Paul, really well. And as well as Carlos Alcaraz played, it wasn't an easy match. You know, these were close sets. And actually, Tommy Paul led in that first set tie break by a mini break. He led 5-4. He was two points away from winning it. And he had a set point as well. And I don't know. It just felt like a bit of a definitive Tommy Paul set, really. Like he goes with Al Karaz all the way and then lets it slip a little bit when he has that mini break. And then he double faults on set point. And you kind of think, gosh, all that work. you've lived with him all that way and yet in the defining moments you've not quite been able to bring it was a very similar story here for him against verev last year um but that being said alcaraz was sublime today and yeah finally looked like the us open alcaraz and i don't know i just think that's yeah if we're talking about it in a novak djokovic sense i think that's that'd be bad news for know about Djokovic because this level today Djokovic would have to go some to beat him over five sets if he's also had to go through Yannick Sinner as well like that task remains extremely difficult for Djokovic I think as great as he is on this court as David has rightly said It was interesting to me how demoralised Tommy Paul sounded after that match today because I agree with you I thought he played really well.

11:08And I didn't learn anything new about Tommy Paul, but he lived up to sort of the best of what I think about Tommy Paul. It was a very respectable scoreline, 7-6, 6-4, 7-5. He brought out the best in Carlos Alcaraz. And yet these guys know that matching their level is just not within their grasp, no matter what they do, unless they're way off their game. And that must be such a difficult reality to cope with as an athlete where a healthy dose of delusion is an important part of an athlete's mindset, right? I suppose delusion might be a negative way of putting it, but believing anything's possible.

12:01They've got to believe it is possible. Yeah, when you're sprinting up sand dunes with bricks on your back, I know they don't all do that, so that's what Andre Agassi used to do, isn't it, in the desert, but when they're doing whatever their version of that is, you've got to believe that it's because anything could be possible. And they know that it's not, while Carlos Alcaraz and Yannick Sinner are in the draw and on two legs. Now, things can happen. We saw that yesterday with Yannick Sinner. we discussed his luck's going you know at some point his luck will run out but I don't think wandering around thinking oh well maybe maybe they'll get struck down by by some bad luck I don't think that's a way to be viewing it either like it's just it's a tough spot for the best of the rest to be in yeah it is um it's a huge test generally uh i think leighton hewitt got to a point where he'd already won two grand slam titles but then federer came along and he he didn't stop working just as hard he was trying to work even harder he was trying to add more to his game but federer was also working hard and federer had so much more potential and and then other players that followed as well, Nadal, Djokovic.

13:22I look at Alex Diminor tonight. He's the absolutely perfect example of somebody who just keeps coming back for more. He's taken his hidings, but he still keeps coming back, still hoping, still adding. But, I mean, look, I think that it'd be so easy to be dispirited if you're Tommy Paul. I can understand if you would be. A year ago, he was a breakup on Alexander Zverev in two successive sets. and he lost them both heavily in tie breaks. And he left the tournament, I think, pissed off, really, just thinking, I've let a chance go here. Whereas today, I don't think he did really let a chance go at all.

14:03Yes, he might have won that first set. He was a break-up all the way through it. It was three-all in that tie break. Then there was a long delay because there was a health issue in the crowd, 15 minutes, and then he took advantage. But he still didn't win the set. And you come away from it, and you're right, listen, And as long as Alcraz and Sinner are at the top of their games, their games are just better. And you can probably do a couple of years where you can go into an off-season thinking, I'm going to work even harder this year. And they're not going to be able to work like I can because I know that there's no stone unturned.

14:36And then you get this and you find out, OK, there are levels. Now talking about levels, Alex Dominoor. 6-4, 6-1, 6-1 over the world number 10 Alexander Bublik tonight in an hour and a half it was an absolute dismantling it was a humiliation quite frankly Bublik reverted to Kyrgios-esque kind of pissing around to kind of soften the blow to his ego I think to get the crowd on his side and to kind of give an air of oh, well, I didn't care that much anyway, even though his new thing is I really do care. I've got a taste for winning now. I'm OK with showing that I care. Well, this was so bruising against a guy that's in the same kind of ranking bracket as him.

15:29Deminor's the sixth seed. He's the tenth seed. That's not a world of difference. He pulled his pants down out there, did Alex Deminor. I mean, rinse and repeat everything that Matt said about him the other night. He was absolutely awesome. And watching him, you're like, well, of course he's going to give Carlos Alcaraz a run for his money. How can a tennis player as good as the one that I'm watching right now not do that? And yet I also know there's a world in which that matchup happens in a couple of days time. And Alex de Menor is exposed. Maybe not. I wouldn't expect a scoreline anywhere near as bruising as 4-1-1.

16:08But there is a very real scenario where Alex de Menor is exposed, perhaps like Tommy Paul was today, as just not having access to the levels that Carlos Alcaraz does. And yet there's a part of my brain that just can't compute that on the basis of what I've seen, because bloody hell Alex de Menor was awesome tonight, potentially more awesome than he even was two nights ago. Wow, I actually barely saw any of this match tonight But, you know, I know what I saw the other night against Tiafoe And yeah, he is incredibly impressive to watch live as well, I think When you realise the speed he's playing with, his ability to take the ball early All of these things really, really come across and impress a stadium, I think and look I think I'm going into that match Dimonor Alcaraz excited that it's happening I really wanted that match to happen because you know I really like both players I really like Alex Dimonor and I want him to have as many moments in Australia as he can you know I'm also pleased it's not Dimonor Sinner because I know that they had a good match at the end of last season And Diminor, Sinner and Diminor showed signs of improvement in that matchup and improvement in his game generally.

17:37But they've just played so often that I'd sort of be kidding myself if I'm hyping it up. And I would really know probably what to expect. And also Diminor's game just can't impact Sinner in a particularly fun way. because Sinner is so good at negating a lot of Alex Dimonor's strengths and rushes him so much. But I do feel like against Alcaraz, they've not played as much. And I still feel like what Dimonor does well can hurt Alcaraz, rushing him, using his speed, moving with him, kind of in much the same way that Tommy Paul can hurt Carlos Alcaraz, frankly. I also think Dimonor's stealier in the big moments.

18:23than Tommy Paul is. So I do have some hope for the matchup and I think it will be exciting for the crowd, you know. So I'm pleased that the draw has fallen like this. Ultimately, I agree with you. I think we will end up thinking, wow, Carlos Alcaraz is incredible because he's managed to beat Alex Dimador and he's incredible. But of course, the other element to that match is the conditions on Tuesday. It is going to be boiling hot on Tuesday, even hotter than we had yesterday. But I think most likely it ends up an indoor match. I should think they want this at 7pm. And the 7pm match the other day was Djokovic-Vander Zanskul and that ended up indoors.

19:11I suspect if the weather forecast holds, the heat index will still be at 5.0 around that time. And Alcaraz has never played an indoor match here. Certainly he doesn't think he's ever played in it or matches. So if he has, then he's forgotten it. Yeah. And look, Alcaraz was great indoors last season. Towards the back end of it, he won a title as well. Didn't he beat Dimonor in that Rotterdam final? He also played indoors at the ATP finals and Alcaraz won. But I think it was a tiebreaker in that set. I think Dimonor might have got a set in the Rotterdam final. He's pushed him in a way that he just hasn't really pushed Sinner.

19:53So I'm excited for it, but I do agree with your overall take about it's probably another one of those matches where we see the levels. I'm so relieved he's fallen in that Alcaraz quarter and not the Sinner quarter. Like, if we're going to have to see Djokovic-Fritz in the quarterfinals, we shouldn't also have to see Dimon or Sinner, you know? Yes, I take that point. I mean, Fritz has still never beaten Djokovic and they've played, what, a dozen times, something like that. but Dimonora I think won't mind indoors I think he'll quite enjoy it I can't think too many times that I've seen Alcaraz play against the home favourite, a really top home favourite at a Grand Slam and that'll be an interesting dynamic because crowds love Alcaraz What are you trying to say about Raleigh Apelka David?

20:50Really top home favourite I mean, it's, you know, I enjoy those two playing against each other because of the speed that they get to each other's ball and the gasps that creates. And if this crowd gets anything to get its teeth into, it's going to let Dimonor and Alcraz know about it because it will be so partisan. I mean, again, I think they'll be appreciative of what Alcraz is doing, but they'll be absolutely ravenous for a victory for the home guy. Look, I don't think that's going to happen. I think that Alcraz has found his level now, but he will need to have it. And there's no guarantee of that.

21:34You can't know until they deliver it. He is a player who sometimes throws in a dodgy one, but that feels like the old Gowcrows or the young Gowcrows. It has been a while, hasn't it? I think once you get to this stage of the tournament, I expect him to just keep delivering. So six games lost by Alex de Menor against Alexander Bublik on Rodleva Arena tonight. Over on the second court in sort of the twilight hours of the day, Lerna Tien dropping just seven games, including a streak of 11 games won in a row to beat a shell-shocked Daniel Medvedev 6-4, 6-love, 6-3 another absolute shellacking, David Yes, and at this point I think I'm going to have to hold my hand up and say that my call on Daniel Medvedev is in the not avoiding humiliation territory the actual interesting thing is I still think there's there's a chance that Alcrast doesn't reach the final and kind of half the point is made but it ain't going to be by Daniel Medvedev because he was nothing like the player I expected to see at this tournament but I also was totally overwhelmed by how good Lerner TM was tonight I didn't think he was that good i didn't think he was capable of performances like that early on in the first set matt and was jumping out of his chair because of some of the rallies and said to me that he you believe that learner tn is top five in the world from the baseline um which is a heck of a statement but based on what i've just seen of him playing against one of the better baseliners that we've seen over the last five to seven years and him just dismantling him the way he did and and overpowering him you know to finishing long bruising rallies with just lashing winners down the line with that with that lasso-like forehand of his i described it as like a slingshot it just it seems to have extra whip and and when it hits the ground it bounds up as well it's got off and left to right curve that puts it just inside the sideline.

23:57But it feels like he's beefed up his game and he's beefed up his confidence. And truthfully, I'm old enough to remember what Michael Chang was like, who's his coach these days. And when he won the French Open, he was a very different player to the player that he tried to become over the next 10 years because he beefed up his game he he tried to play with a bigger like a longer racket he tried to hit winners when he'd been known as a baseliner and honestly that looks like what's happened here it looks like he has got to learn a tn and made him hit bigger and be more of a threat um because he used to just be a lovely choreographer almost from the baseline now he now he's a he's a destroyer Yeah, Medvedev was asked about this match-up, this rivalry with Lennartian on the eve of the tournament, his pre-tournament press, you know, because the draw had thrown up this possibility of the meeting in round four.

25:02And Medvedev had, you know, his face had lit up at the opportunity to talk about his rivalry with Lennartian and the bizarre and thrilling matches that they'd had last year. And his words were, it's fun because neither of us can hit a winner. well my god he must have been shocked by what he found out there today I think he was yeah yeah life comes at you fast because the winners were flying past him you know and yeah like I've always rated Tien from the ground but mostly I've rated him because of his control on the ball and his ability to not miss to change direction so easily He's so comfortable hitting the ball up the line off a cross-court ball.

25:49He's so comfortable off either wing he can do that, changing the direction and the tempo of a rally and manipulating the ball. I'm sure these were all descriptions I've used before on the podcast to talk about Lerner Tien and, in particular, his matches against Medvedev. But I kind of agreed with Medvedev's analysis a few days ago. Like, yes, that has been the story of their matches. neither of them have been able to hit winners past each other. That's why they've gone on so long. That's why we've ended up seeing both of them cramp in matches. That's why I promised my mum and dad a five-setter today on the second court.

26:25I thought this match was going to look similar to their previous matches, but it didn't. TN outplayed him to a staggering degree, like right from the start, broke him in the first game, just totally imposed his power on him. And some of the stuff he was doing in that second set, 13 winners to one unforced error, the four love game started with a rally that brought me and David out of our seats in the media centre and got some funny looks from those around us who didn't happen to be watching that match at the time, thinking, what on earth are these two reacting to? Other people's radio report. Right.

27:10Always a fun moment. And it just left Medvedev looking desperate. You know, after that incredible opening point of the 4-Love game, he tried an underarm serve. And TN was quick to it and whipped it up the line for a winner. So then he tried to serve from virtually in the tram lines, did Medvedev. And he won that point. But he won it only after TN had hit the return around the net post. this was the kind of ridiculous stuff that he was doing and you felt like it was entirely within himself and maybe maybe we'll see him play zverev in the next round and we'll realize that maybe actually he was totally peaking today and medvedev did say that in the in the press conference as much as he praised him he was he was impressed to a extraordinary level and thought you know that that might be as well as he plays in this tournament because it was extraordinary but it felt within himself because he's so unflappable, TN.

28:11Like, I love drama. I do. I love players who get involved in dramatic matches and you know exactly what they're feeling and thinking and all the show of it. But I do also like a player who is no fuss and totally just... Can I introduce you to Bertik van der Zandtkopp? Yeah, but he's not as good as Lerner, TN. He's got to be good as well. And like it just it just it was so exciting to me to see someone like that who is playing this sport that we all know and love, but doing it in such a fun, interesting way and just moving on to the next point and conjuring up something else clever that we've not seen before.

28:52I loved it. And honestly, he humiliated Medvedev out there. Like it was it was extraordinary, the gap between them. I went to his press conference, Lenartian, and I'd forgotten that he's kind of the same in press as he is on the court, like unflappable, not quite corporate, but you don't get he's very likable. But, you know, he's not defensive about questions. He just doesn't, you know, doesn't give you that much. He's not there to have a have a therapy session. You know, he's just, everything seems fine. He's like, yeah, played well today. On to the next one. And the next one will be against Alexander Zverev, who dished out his own shellacking today to Francisco Serundolo.

29:46Maybe not quite as brutal a shellacking as Medvedev and Bublik received, but honestly not that far off. 6-2, 6-4, 6-4 for Zverev against a guy that has caused him problems in the past, but not today, David. No, Zverev's level continues to be exceptionally high to my eye. I think he's playing better than he did a year ago and he reached the final a year ago. There's something more convincing about what he's doing, about how he's striking the ball and the intent behind it. He's playing, actually, for the most part, the sort of tennis that onlookers and people like me and yourselves have been saying he should be playing big man's tennis and should be crowding the baseline and going forwards and not backing up all the time.

30:37He's hitting huge off the backhand and forehand, so he's hitting loads of winners. But this still was not the match that I was expecting at all. I thought Sarindolo would play really well and it would be close and that Zverev would eke it out. Sarindolo didn't play well at all. This was Sarindolo's performance from the Davis Cup for the first two sets. He had no feel on the ball. He was hitting errors galore. And this is a good baseline with a massive forehand. The forehand speed was way down to the point where I thought, is he ill? Is he injured? What's going on? He ramped up that power in the third set.

31:15And he just made too many errors and got broken again. So there was a chance that he could have gone into a fourth, I felt. I went to his little press gathering afterwards just to ask him, were you OK physically out there today? he initially said yes no there was no problem I and then he goes I did feel something in the first set and I and it was on my mind but you know I managed to get into it and so I think there was something there but I think even so Zverev played really well we now have this fascinating situation where in Zverev's mind I think generally and he listen he was very quick to give respect in what he said to learn a TN and he actually drew a parallel he didn't name him but he says he basically said you're all making a big fuss about somebody else of that age i.e.

32:06Fonseca but actually this is the guy who's getting the results and and fair play I mean that's true so he's got a lot of time for him they've won one match a piece those two and he's the only left-hander I think that's beaten Zverev in about the last 30 matches between the two, something like that? Zverev, this stat I got from Gil Gross earlier, Zverev's 37 and 1 in his last 38 matches against lefties, but the 1 is Lerner-Tien. And I saw that match, Tien was good, Zverev was terrible that night. And Tien knows that, he said that in press today, like he's not focusing too much I don't think on that.

32:50Yeah I don't find it particularly instructive but I do find it interesting that I think in Zverev's mind it's Sinner, Alcaraz and maybe Djokovic standing between himself and the title but first he's actually got to get past this guy now it may be that Tim was just zoning and can't reproduce what he did today. And also he's playing a different type of player with a bigger weight of shot. But I also think that Tien is dangerous based on what I've seen today. So, I mean, that's an interesting one. I think Zverev is absolutely the favourite. But, you know, there's definitely chances there, I think, if Tien can get onto the ball.

33:38And another one, you know, when and where will it be scheduled? Because all of these matches that we're looking ahead to for Tuesday, Tuesday is going to be 43 degrees, apparently, according to the weather forecast. It's going to be another one where we're watching that heat stress index slowly or maybe not so slowly tick up towards the inevitable 5.0. I wonder whether they'll even open the roof at all. anyway yeah it's such a conundrum that that lefty thing because Varev is so good against lefties you know and it's particular it's the angle of attack you know that the lefties have into his backhand which is his best shots one of the best shots in the world but I do think TN is different from a lot of the other lefties you know like I'm just looking at the list here of players that he's beaten you know Cameron Norrie Ben Shelton, Mute Tabilo, Montero Umber, Balucci you know these are the sort of lefties that he's been playing regularly over this run of wins and yes they all obviously have that one thing in common, they're left handed but none of them possess the same level of control off both wings that TN has and the you know he's got a slice as well and he's got just so much in his game and he's got such high IQ I think on a tennis court that I don't I don't think he's just standard lefty against Zverev he's got he's got other ways and weapons and ability to think on a court and make life difficult for Zverev and I'm not that that's not predicting him to win I do I do think Zverev is the favourite, I would probably predict Verve to win, given how well he's playing.

35:31But I'm not sure it will necessarily just be because of the lefty thing. Like, I do think TN's got more ways to negate that than some of the other lefties on tour. That's also a list of players that he should be. Right? Like, they haven't, until Jack Draper broke into the top ten, like, weirdly, considering it's considered an advantage being a lefty, There has been a bit of a dearth of lefties at the top of the game, obviously in a dull, but there aren't that many really top lefties. Certainly, you know, the world number three, which is what Zverev has been for quite a while now, and was world number two for a while.

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36:12There haven't been any lefties that you would expect him to lose to. I think what he's done to Shelton is a little interesting, because he kind of, to this point at least, has really handled him. But I think Tien is way better off the ground than Schell. Yeah. Yeah. But he doesn't have the weapon of the serve, you know, so that probably would even things up a little bit. It's really fascinating. It is absolutely fascinating. We should stop being it up because it will be a dart the last time you picked up all of today's matches. It is the 2026 Australian Open. Yeah. And look, the leftiness was a problem for Medvedev today, I think, because his standard backhand cross court was going straight into Tien's hitting zone.

37:04But I also think Tien is less bothered by the low trajectory of Medvedev's shots than even someone like Zverev is. I think that bothers Zverev when he plays Medvedev, the fact that he's coming through so low. Tien is lower to the ground than Zverev, and he seemed absolutely fine. So I'm wary of reading too much into the matchup, you know, before we see it. But I don't know. What I saw today from TM was special. I do think he's special. And he's been so good all tournament. It wasn't a total one-off. He'd been building to this. No, I can't wait for it. I'm excited for that match. Me too. Okay, that's it for part one.

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39:23Welcome back to part two of today's tennis podcast, where, as promised, we have a competitive match to talk about. Folks, Coco Goff and Karolina Mukova delivering the goods out on the second court today. Coco Goff with the win 6-1, 3-6, 6-3. I thought Coco Goff was awesome today, but I was getting a coffee order for myself and Matt's parents from a robotic coffee barista during the second set, which she lost. So I am not the most thorough judge of this match today. You had a coffee from a robot. Yeah, there's a robotic barista in the Rod Laver arena. And it was a, I mean, I could do a whole podcast on this if you like.

40:18It was a really, I've been to the future today, folks. Yeah, I've got a video of the robot arm doing the baristaing and delivering the coffees. But anyway. Pop that on Insta. Yeah. It's sort of a bit scary, but also kind of great. That's the kind of thing they like, isn't it? Yeah, OK, I'll pop it on Insta. Coco Gough, Matt, how good did you think she was today? Very good. Yeah, I really did. Interesting that, you know, on the day of all the duds, this match-up actually turned out to be one of the more interesting and competitive ones that they'd had. You know, it was the first time that they'd actually gone to a deciding set.

41:06and it didn't look likely honestly early on because Goff was so good in the opening stages and you immediately saw the match-up problem that this is for Mukovo. Her ability to construct points is almost second to none, her ability to move opponents all over the court is almost second to none and yet Goff can handle those things and what Mukovo doesn't really have is a huge potent weapon to end points she relies on being able to move opponents around and win points in different ways and it's just goth can handle that and in the opening stages we saw it mukova was conjuring up brilliant stuff but goth always had a response there was there was a two points back to back in mukova's first service game i think it was where Gough chased down the drop shot, got lobbed, and then hit this sort of hook forehand passing shot past Mukova at the net.

42:06And you thought, wow, like Mukova wins that point against everyone else in the draw. But Gough's got the foot speed and the skills on the reach to come up with something like that. And then the very next point was a brilliant backhand passing shot from Gough. And it was like, wow, she can do that as well. Like that was the challenge for Mukova. Like, how do you win points reliably against Goff? And she just couldn't do it in that first set. She just could not do it. She made a very good tactical switch, I thought, in the second set, Mukovo, and basically stopped hitting her backhand cross-court.

42:40Whenever she got a backhand, she hit it down the line to cut out the backhand-to-backhand exchanges and to try and get some errors, I think, out of the Coco-Goff forehand, and they came. It made it quite an unusual-looking match for a while. didn't it? You don't often see down the line exchanges. Exactly. Yeah. But Mukova did it really well and hit the backhand with enough pace to, I think, draw some errors from Goff. And it really worked. And then she started to hit with a lot more conviction, Mukova, a lot more. She'd come out, I think, unsure of how to play the match, but she committed to that tactic, played a really good second set and Goff's level did drop but I think what Goff then did in the third set was fascinating how they were responding to each other was realising that actually she's just got to make that forehand when Mukava's hitting it down the line like if she can then loop it a bit and push Mukava back and that's all that's going to be enough she just needs to get that ball back and she'd been missing quite a lot of them in the second set but she corrected that in the third set and the rallies became much more like they were in the opening set and Goff was able to use her all-court game and play really well.

43:58Unfortunately for Mukovo, she had a series of points midway through the third set where she just totally lost her way and lost a break. She coughed up about eight errors in a row, lost eight points in a row and went from 2-1 down to 4-1 down and that was it. That was the match right there and then. It was a real lapse from Mukovo and what otherwise had been quite good recovery in this match. She rallied in the final game and threatened the break back. She saved some match points, an incredible style, did Mukova, but never was able to create a break point in that final game. And Goff closed it out.

44:33And her serve, I thought, held up really well today. Goff, I wasn't thinking about it. I wasn't thinking, oh, my God, she's going to double fault. The serve's a disaster. Not at all. She had a couple of double faults to get broken in the second set. But otherwise, a very reliable serving day. She corrected on the forehand. I thought it was another really good performance from Goff. Yeah, that was the most confident I've felt in Goff's serving forehand in, well, this year, certainly. And OK, I was getting robotic coffee during the period when her forehand had its lapse. but by the time I came back she had really found it and I it felt really secure to me and okay Mukava doesn't have the power to ask that forehand questions that other players can it's when people are going hard into it and she gets rushed with that swing and that grip isn't it so maybe today isn't the best judge, the best evidence to judge on.

45:38But she was clearly thrilled with those two shots today, particularly the serve. She was asked by Mary Jo Fernandez on the court. I think the question was, what makes you so... She did a big celebration after the match. And she was asked, you know, why are you so pleased with this win and this performance? And she said, you know, because today was great on serve. And you've got Gavin McMillan sitting. He's physically on the court at this tournament, of course. He's right there sort of examining the fruits of his labour up close. And it really, look, I know things with Koko Gough are never linear.

46:19This doesn't mean her serve and forehand will look exactly like this in the next match. But it felt like, you know, even if there is one step back to come, this felt like two steps forward today. Yeah, she had confidence. The one thing I noticed in the first set, I was only there in the first set, was she actually ran around backhands to hit forehands a few times because that's the one with the extra oomph on it, isn't it? The one where you can damage opponents more often and she had the confidence to do it. She's 21-6 in three set matches at majors, which is maybe not a surprising record given what an athlete she is.

47:03But when it goes into a third set, I do just think, huh, like obviously Goff is going to win this. She said, I don't get tired, which must be lovely, Coco. Enjoy that. Try being a podcaster.

47:19Alina Svitolina will be Coco Goff's quarterfinal opponent. She beat, not Karolina Mukova, as I've written in the agenda, She beat Mira Andrava tonight, 6-2, 6-4. You both watched this on the Rod Laver arena. Elina Svitolina had that look in her eye again. She did. She did. She played her forceful brand of tennis that we've become accustomed to. Comfortably the better player in the first set. Second set, Andrava went up 2-0 and looked like she'd found a game because in the first set, she was terrible. She had unforced errors all over the place and then looked like she'd corrected it. She won the first 10 points of the second set.

48:05The words golden set were mentioned by one of us and she, of course, lost the next point. It was you, wasn't it? It was. I went way too early on. And, I mean, then she didn't win that set. And it left us reflecting back on last year when she was playing against Lois Boisson. in a very different difficult situation at Roland Garros and and the whole crowd against her and then against Taylor Townsend at the US Open and how I don't want to say badly she handled it because I think that's it was really tough for her but she what she didn't she wasn't able to handle it and play her best tennis in those environments and one of the big things she she made the point of having won the title at the start of this year was that that's what she's trying to do now is just sort of not be petulant, she makes fun of herself in those situations.

49:00I'm not saying she was petulant, but she didn't handle this well tonight. Her form wasn't there and she couldn't find a way to reliably provide it. Do you think being a Russian, playing a Ukrainian, playing a Lina Svitolina, do you think that could have been a factor for Androva tonight? She knew there wasn't going to be a handshake. She went immediately to her chair and didn't sort of stand there waiting for a handshake. She got booed for that on the court because, of course, a lot of people in the crowd wouldn't have known that that Andrava had known that there wasn't going to be a handshake.

49:37You know, just one of those misunderstandings that we've seen a lot. And it's complicated, isn't it? Because I really support Alina Svitolina's stance on this and not doing those handshakes. And yet also Miran Draver is like she's a child. And I don't I just don't feel great about seeing her go through that experience either. But I can't imagine being the age that she is that not being some sort of a factor tonight. I agree. I think these matches do have an odd feel to them. there is an edge to them, a tension to them that maybe doesn't exist in other matchups. And Andreeva, she was so flat in that first set, like just a no-show.

50:32It was like she wasn't really there, you know? And she corrected that in the second set and started to play with a bit more oomph and a bit more impact. but only for a few games and then Svitolina was in charge again and the better player and the one pushing I think though to David's point and I really agree with it she's got to deal better with situations where she's not playing well and look, she's incredibly young and I'm sure this can improve but it is a real pattern that we see and she gets very frustrated i think when she doesn't have her game and for someone who i think has so many tools in her game to be able to adapt and to be able to correct and fall back on something else she she loses her way in matches in in a way that i just think she shouldn't she shouldn't be and that that happened here absolutely like she was under pressure by Svitolina for sure in that final game but she got frustrated she sort of bounced her racket away and that I think was the first moment the crowd sort of turned on her a little bit and then ended up ended up losing the match and I think in addition the reason the crowd booed her was because there was as you said she just walked off you know like there is a way I I think you can handle those situations where you at least acknowledge your opponent, even if you're not shaking their hand because of the agreement that there is.

52:17And look, I don't want to slam Mirandreva for doing that and just walking off. But I do think if she had acknowledged Svitolina, I think Svitolina would have acknowledged her at a distance. And maybe the crowd wouldn't have booed in the way they did. and I'm not not excusing the crowd I if I'd been a fan I certainly wouldn't have been booing her um but I think that was part of why they ended up booing her as well rather than just the fact of no handshake um but yeah there's there's a lot for Andreva to still improve and grow at um and I think tonight tonight did demonstrate that but credits for Selena as well like there's there's an extra zip in her footwork in those latter stages when she's sensing that the match can go in her favor and she's hitting her backhand line suddenly with a bit more with a bit more power behind it or she's getting the ball on her forehand and unloading and unleashing and her record now at slams since she came back is incredible in terms of its consistency she is reliably winning so many matches.

53:32She's not suffering too many early defeats. And now she gets another chance to kind of push one of the very best players in the world. It is remarkable how she's remodeled her game. And yeah, I continue to be in awe of what she's done. I also checked her record against Russian players versus her general record to kind of confirm that I'm not imagining something being different about Alina Svitolina in these matchups. And somebody on Instagram asked us to run the numbers as well. And since the Russian invasion of Ukraine on February 24th, 2022, Svitolina, including tonight, is 12-2 against Russian players, which is an 86 % win percentage.

54:24and overall during that period against all opponents, her win percentage is 67%. So it's a significant difference. So that's Vitalina Goff set up for a couple of days' time. The other quarterfinal set up today, well, Irina Sabalenka, she has beaten Victoria and Boca today 6-2, 7-6. This got interesting for a period at the end of that second set, obviously until it went to a tiebreak when the match instantly fell over because it's Arena Sabalenka in a Grand Slam tiebreak. But by and large, in this match, Arena Sabalenka was absolutely unplayable. Yeah, as you know, I love this point of a Grand Slam when the very best players, particularly in this era, and I'm talking about Sina, Alkraus, Djokovic, Sabalenka, Svantec when she's at her best, when they just arrive, when the real Grand Slam version of them enters the building and you can kind of forget and then suddenly you see this from Sabalenka and you realise again there are levels because Victoria Mboka was playing well even in the first set that she got absolutely hammered.

55:43She's hitting a great shot that would normally be a winner against most players or set up an easy put away. And Samalenka either retaliates with even greater power and you can see the look of shock on Mboka's face or she diffuses it very often with the most incredible soft hands does Samalenka with a slice on the forehand or backhand, puts it down low and then suddenly Mboka is required to just whip up a shot that is so difficult to hit aggressively for a winner, and it's suddenly back in Sabalenka's hands. She's developed, she's improved as a player so much over the last few years. It is kind of Djokovic-Nindale-like, I feel, the way she has added incrementally to her game.

56:28And today, as Matt said at the start of the show, yeah, she just arrived through those doors and just took over. And I feel like the second set, I'm pleased for Mboko, because I think she's gathered a lot of information today about what it's like playing this level of player at a Grand Slam and she got into the match a little bit at the end. But I also don't think it's representative of the match that we saw today, the fact that she ended up in a tyre break. Yeah, that performance would have been terrifying for anybody else in the draw, I think. I thought Mboko played really well. Yeah, I think this performance from Sabalenka was like a huge compliment to Mboko.

57:10Like, because she'd been ragged Sabalenka in previous matches. And today she was awesome. Like, maybe I shouldn't be surprised by world number one plays tennis really well, but it will just always be amazing to me to see tennis played at that standard. Like, she was so good. And 6-1-4-1, it was a flawless match. I actually felt like Mboko's game did feed in a little bit to Sabalenka. Like she had enough power to give Sabalenka pace, but maybe not quite enough to disrupt her in that sense. And I think Sabalenka was able to rush Mboko in such a dramatic way here. But full credit to Mboko, as you said, because it could have been so easy to get despondent, to get down, and to just lose this match one and one.

58:07But she kept believing. She kept fighting. She broke back, saving some match points when Sabalenka was serving for it. And, you know, for a moment there, there was genuine, oh, OK, could this match still turn? Because, as we've been saying, Mboka was playing really well. But that tiebreak from Sabalenka, my God. Like, she's won, what, 20 in a row now at Slams and many more on the tour as well in that period. This might have been the best one. Like, it was extraordinary. The five winners to go five love up, a big serve for six love. And Charlie Eccleshare made the point that this tiebreak streak is so impressive because so often it has required a reset from Sambalenka.

58:57She's very often had a set in her grasp, like she did today, let it go and then needed to resort to a tie break it was a similar story against potopova the other day and she's not letting the momentum of the set carry over into the tie break she is resetting and stamping her authority on them it's so impressive and she now has the outright record at grand slams in the open era for most tie breaks won in a row men or women stealing Novak Djokovic's record and I quite enjoyed his tweet to, I don't know, maybe it was to Sabalenka directly or to an account that posted about the streak anyway. I think it was to Roland Garros.

59:42Don't know why they're getting involved. I think, yeah, somebody aired the fact that his record had been broken and he quipped, I'm not happy about this. Yeah, I enjoyed it. It's also 13 consecutive Grand Slam quarterfinals for Sabalenka. Yeah, an incredible streak. And again, we talk about players who've transformed themselves or changed the stories of their careers. You know, what a long time ago it feels. And I mean, it kind of was now, but Sapolenka used to underperform in slams. She used to lose to Kaia Kineppi here, unable to serve. That was always the criticism of her, right? That she was dangerous on tour and then she'd come into a slam and wouldn't really perform.

1:00:26Well, she's totally upset-proofed her game. You cannot beat her in the early rounds. She's guaranteed to be there in the latter stages. Yeah, it's remarkable. Every time I, for whatever reason, am reminded of that Kineppi match, I think it must have been before the pandemic. It was very much not before the pandemic. It was very much post-pandemic. Right, so that's Sabalenka through to the quarterfinals where she will face 18-year-old Eva Jovic, who delivered the biggest beatdown of the day, guys. Six love, six won, 53 minutes, shortest match of the women's draws so far. Yulia Putinsaver is thoroughly danced out of the Australian Open by a child.

1:01:19She did have a chance to do the funniest thing, didn't she, Jovic? And dance in celebration. Yeah, I mean, wow. She's a class act. She's a grown-up. She's unfortunately a class act. And boy, is she. I mean, she, I went to a press conference and she's like, she's really charming and impressive and not at all obnoxious. But like she could be given how poised and comfortable she is speaking to a room full of strangers. She's like a theatre kid that's been primed for being famous for their whole lives. You know, like they were a child actor that was in adverts for, you know, kids things when they were five years old.

1:02:14Like she's so poised and sure of herself and articulate and comfortable in ways that I can never understand or relate to, certainly for an 18 year old. But it is incredibly impressive. And this is a player who, look, she only turned 18 last month. And she's like, yeah, this is a great run. Obviously, I'm chuffed to bits to be in the quarterfinals of the Australian Open. But like, this isn't out of nowhere. She's like, you know, I got to the final in, was it Auckland or Hobart? I get those confused. Hobart. Hobart, yeah. She had a decent run in Auckland as well. Yeah, had a run in Auckland. She pointed that out too.

1:02:53Got to the final in Hobart. She was like, this has been coming. My whole year has been good. Like this is, I mean, maybe the specific results are in excess of what she was expecting, but she was expecting to be a much improved player this year as a result of the work she did in the offseason. She's obviously done serious strengthening and serious work on her game and physicality. And she's able to stand up to adult opposition now. There is no more adult opposition than Irina Sabalenka. I'm not sure anything can prepare you for that. But I did love that she wanted to face Abelenka in the next round.

1:03:44I love to hear that. And that's the thing I feel no matter what. I hope for her sake she doesn't really get a heavy defeat that leaves you shell-shocked. Even that, though, I think would give her information because she got one of those from Elena Rebacca a year ago. I know you asked her about that in the press conference. and you know she didn't shy away from that did she but she's aware that she's a different player now and so if she has a similar experience to Mboko I think that that would be a very positive thing for her but I love the ambition the way that she's coming into this and she's just going to go for it she didn't even properly focus on tennis as her main sport until the pandemic hit.

1:04:35And it kind of had to be tennis because it was the only individual sport that she did and the only one she was allowed to do. All the team sports stopped. So if she wanted to keep doing anything, it had to be tennis. And that kind of made her decision for her. And then she won the Orange Bowl the next year at 14. like yeah she's been she's been destined for this I think for or has maybe felt like she's destined for this for for a long time and she's she's really exciting I fear for a bit of a shellacking but I you know I think she'll she'll come into it with absolutely the right approach and an attitude and that's really all she can do okay so those are the quarterfinal matches that have been set up today.

1:05:26We'll have some more set up tomorrow and do join us in part three when we talk through that order of play and adjudicate sensation of the day. Welcome back to part three of today's tennis podcast where I have just one submission for sensation of the day. I will take others if you have them, but nobody bought me beers today. Did anybody else get bought beers? No. No. No. Come back, Fred. I miss Fred. So in that case, I submit Olivia Gadecki and John Pears, who beat Laura Siegmund and Edouard Roger Vassalan 10-5 in the match tie break on this first match of the day on the second court today. So not only did they win, which nobody else did, they beat Laura Siegmund.

1:06:17It's a pretty strong case. It's a strong case. You could win the Australian Open singles and not beat that. Does anyone have any objections to giving Olivia Gadecki and John Pears sensations of the day? No, they deserve it. Olivia, John, it's yours. Right then, what do we have in store on day nine of the Australian Open? Contenders for sensations of the day everywhere here. In fact, we're guaranteed some. We've got an all-sensation match-up on the second court. So that gets us through one more day. But do still buy us beers if you see us. Does Maybe this is too late in the podcast To be coming up with such an existential question About sensation of the day Does Alex de Menor become a sensation When he plays Carlos Alcaraz Such a good question You know what I mean?

1:07:13Like I think I think if He becomes a plucky underdog I'm going to say it If Alex de Menor beats Carlos Alcaraz I think he deserves sensation of the day. Shall I put it to a poll on our Instagram? Yeah, like maybe I'm folding. Maybe I'm not committing to the real bit. I just think his status changes when he plays Alcaraz. I don't like polls. Yes, do a poll. Poll vault. No, actually, I think we should decide. Can I think about it and decide to? but I think you make a strong case and I'm open to it. I just need to let it percolate. Because it's quite a big deal for us to let Alex de Menor in. It is.

1:08:00I just love the bit so much. Oh, the bit's not going anywhere. I'm assuming we're going to get bought beers daily, Matt. It's a good point, though, that you make, Matt, I think. And, excuse me, but Madison Inglis is still in the tournament. Oh, yeah. Will she be when Alex de Menor plays Carlos Alcaraz? Well, there's only one way to find out on tomorrow's tennis podcast. Rod Laver Arena tomorrow starting from 11.30 is Jessica Pergoula against Madison Keys. Second up, not before 2pm, Lorenzo Musetti against Taylor Fritz while Djokovic has his feet up. Might be having a massage, might be having a nice long bath, might be catching up with the traitors.

1:08:43He's got three days to play with. Doesn't he like hug trees? Yeah, he's not watching the traitors, is he? He's got a specific tree here in the botanical garden that he goes to hug. At night session, Madison Inglis up against Iga Svjantek, 7pm, making a play for Sensation of the Day. And then last up in the night session, this one was scheduled to be Djokovic against Menchik. It's been moved over from the John Kane Arena. Ben Shelton against Kasper Rude. Second court starts with James McCabe and Lee Tu against Jason Kubler and Mark Polmans. There it is. Yeah, that's our banker. They might, whoever wins that.

1:09:27Jason Kubler has been on court. So much. I can't get away from him. The entire time. He's chasing me around. Yeah. The winner of that is not guaranteed sensation of the day because following it on court, We have Guo and Mladenovic up against Kim Birrell and Talia Gibson of yesterday's Sensations of the Day fame. Then not before 4pm, Elena Rabatkinner against the Lisa Mertens. And finally, not before 6pm on the second court, it's Luciano Darderi and Yannick Sinner. And we think Sinner being scheduled on the second court was something to do with the Djokovic situation and the knowing at the time of putting out the schedule there was a high risk of the Djokovic-Mensic match not happening.

1:10:13I can't quite thought map the whole thing. Well, I would have thought that he would have been moved across if that was the case. I wonder whether it is... But tickets had already been sold at that point for the second court with Sinner on the schedule, so I think that would have been tough. I mean, I'm sure he just has made a massive campaign to play in the evening probably, but maybe he hasn't. Maybe. Although the forecast for tomorrow is okay. Yeah, it's around 30 Celsius, I think. Which, you know, in the heat of the day would be potentially tough for Sinner, but nowhere near as bad as the other day.

1:10:48Which leaves just one singles match on the John Kane Arena. And unfortunately for Matt, it's Amanda Onisimova against Wong Jin Yu. Are you going to go? Who have I upset at Tennis Australia? The Amanda Innocent Arena. That's its next name. This scheduling was a personal attack. Yeah, I'm going to go. I am going to be there. Of course I am. Having a bad time. And you're going to bitch about it on the podcast later. It's what the people want. It's when she loses. If she loses on the John Kane Arena. My God. Tune in to tomorrow's show, folks, to find out. Right. Hello to our lovely mascot, Gus, who I'm looking at a picture of sitting in front of some wine barrels, which is how she spends her day being a wine dog.

1:11:44What a life. Thank you, lovely Gus. Hello to Maisie. Hello to Bodie. Hello to Roger. Of course, hello to our top folks and executive producers, Greg, Chris and Jeff. Let's have some shout outs, Matt. We have V. Ellickson V. V. V. Hi, V. They are from Washington State. Oh. And they say, I've been an avid listener of the pod since 2018. And you've been instrumental in deepening my understanding and appreciation for tennis, both as a sport and as a medium for viewing and thinking about the world at large. Oh V I really like that Thank you That's lovely Washington State Home of the Seahawks David I know I'm wearing my Seahawks Top right now Big day for David What time's the game?

1:12:37I think local time here It's noon So 12 o 'clock And I'll be ready I'll be sort of Double screening Madison Keyes And Jessica Begula With the Seahawks Against the Rams All while Matt Is en route To the John Kane Arena After playing tennis With Simon Briggs Lots is happening tomorrow That's where the real action is Hey Matt needs the practice He's got something to get ready for More on that tomorrow Thank you V That's lovely We've also got Bridget Robinson Hello Bridget Hi Bridget Who is currently in Halifax, Nova Scotia Wow And says I've been listening to the podcast since close to its start certainly since the days of David and Catherine recording in the Putney Exchange.

1:13:30Hooray! Oh, the good old days. Well, I imagine Bridget is sad to see Victoria Mboko go out of the tournament today, but generally, Bridget, the future is very bright for you with Mboko, I would say. Tennis Bridget's. Bridget's come up with the only tennis-adjacent Bridget of which I know is Bridget Wilson-Sampras. Oh, very good. I think that's a great submission. Yes, well done, Bridget. Well done, Bridget. You can come again. And finally, we have Natalie Howin. Oh, hello, Natalie. Hi, Natalie. Who is currently living in London, but from Sydney. Yes, we know Natalie. We know Natalie. We met Natalie at our Melbourne live show last year and we chatted to her afterwards and she told me she was moving to London in the spring and did I have any advice for her?

1:14:29And she's met Billie Jean. She's been for a walk in Wimbledon Common. My advice for moving to London was just meet Billie Jean. Best thing London's got going for it. Always worse when I get down there. So, yeah, Natalie. We love Natalie. And she inadvertently almost did the calendar fan slam last year, only missing out on the US Open because she'd planned a trip to Croatia already. Well, that was a good idea. Always a good idea. I can see why David loves it so much. Yes, Natalie. Absolutely right. Natalie, like Natalie Tozier, coach of Victorian Boko. Odeshi. Odeshi, yeah. Lots of French Nathalies.

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Catherine, David and Matt review a day which promised much only to deliver little in the way of drama, but did feature several incredible performances from some of the sport’s biggest names and rising stars.

Part one - Men’s results. We start with the news of Jakub Mensik’s withdrawal and how much it could help Novak Djokovic, before moving on to the day’s matches which saw standout performances from Carlos Alcaraz, Alex de Minaur and Learner Tien. Can De Minaur trouble Alcaraz? And how much will Tien be at a disadvantage against Alexander Zverev as a lefty?

Part two (39:24) - Women’s results. We cover Aryna Sabalenka finding top gear to beat a battling Victoria Mboko, Coco Gauff continuing her dominance over Karolina Muchova in the day’s best match, Elina Svitolina keeping up her remarkable record against Russians by beating Mirra Andreeva, and an outstanding performance by teenager Iva Jovic to dismiss Yulia Putintseva.

Part three (1:05:36) - Sensation(s) of the Day and Monday’s order of play.

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