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Bonus episode from “Tennis Podcast Meets” covering opening-weekend Roland Garros 2026. It includes interviews with up-and-coming ATP/WTA players, plus discussion of tennis media protests and, in a major segment, Ukrainian player Alexandra Olenikova’s refusal to stay silent about the war in Ukraine.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Ethan Quinn (American, 22): main-draw player at Roland Garros; previously had a strong result here; college tennis background.
- Zeynep Somes (Turkish WTA player): Turkish trailblazer; trained with coach Ism; inspired by WTA Finals in Istanbul; supported by Turkish fans.
- Martin Landa-Luthe (ATP): young up-and-comer; breakthrough on clay; entered Roland Garros main draw for first time via ranking.
- Alexander Blocks (ATP): young up-and-comer; improved mentally after close losses; parents were athletes (track/swimming).
- Alexandra Olenikova (Ukrainian WTA player): only top Ukrainian still based in Ukraine; father volunteered for war in 2024.
Key claims + examples
- Quinn: clay movement is hardest for Americans; models forehand after “cobra” style; aims to be proud of effort, not just wins; college helped manage emotions.
- Somes: runs a lot and turns defense into attack; wants to improve serve; Turkish crowds felt “like home”; partnership with coach Ism “clicked.”
- Landa-Luthe: clay results show he can beat top players; grass suits his serve-and-volley/slide game.
- Blocks: needs physical/mental consistency; Madrid showed he can win close matches; wants repeated 3–5 win runs.
- Olenikova: criticizes “silence” from tour figures; says sport should unite for “what is right”; cites Arina Sabalenka’s Belarus support and lack of reaction; describes travel hardship living in Kyiv (700 km from border) and drone/rocket risk; mentions WTA threats of fines/disqualification reported by The Athletic.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOEthan Quinn's Journey to Main Draw
0:46 to 1:09
Ethan shares his experience of qualifying for the main draw and his preparation.
“about why she refuses to keep quiet as the war rages on and how she hopes to use her platform to make a difference.”
Adapting to Clay Court Challenges
1:10 to 4:30
Ethan discusses his relationship with clay courts and the challenges faced.
“Part of the main draw, part of the big circuit here?”
Learning from Experience and Growth
4:31 to 6:50
Ethan reflects on his journey, focusing on long-term growth and learning.
“Exactly right you You know, the first season we came over here, I played two challengers.”
The Impact of College Tennis
6:51 to 10:40
Ethan discusses how his college experience shaped his approach to professional tennis.
“You know, I feel like he's a really good player to idolize and emulate.”
Zeynep Somes' Perspective on Player Solidarity
10:41 to 11:52
Zeynep shares her views on player solidarity amid media day protests.
“and thank you for your time here on the tennis podcast.”
Zeynep's Coaching Relationship and Inspirations
11:53 to 14:01
Zeynep reflects on her coaching relationship and the influence of other players.
“I want to talk a little bit about your 2026 so far.”
Inspiration from Early Tennis Experiences
14:01 to 18:12
The speaker recalls their early experiences watching top tennis players and the impact it had on their career aspirations.
“What do you remember about that experience?”
Representing Turkey on the Court
18:12 to 19:28
Discussion on the support received from Turkish fans and the pressure of being a national representative in tennis.
“So it's a very difficult observation right now.”
Goals and Aspirations for 2026
19:28 to 23:49
The speaker outlines their goals for improving their game and discusses the importance of confidence and mental preparation.
“I guess I can really give a clear answer, not to you guys, but to myself.”
Physicality and Mentality in Grand Slam Matches
23:49 to 28:00
An exploration of the physical and mental demands of Grand Slam matches and the importance of consistency for success.
“Martin, how does it feel to be here in your position after such good results recently?”
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Introduction to Alexandra
28:00 to 28:22
Alexandra shares insights about her exciting journey in tennis this year.
Developing a Unique Playing Style
28:22 to 29:52
Alexandra discusses the evolution of her distinctive playing style.
“Can you describe what 2026 has been like for you so far, both on and off the court?”
Motivation from Personal Struggles
29:52 to 31:45
She explains how her life in Ukraine and family influences her tennis career.
“Yeah, I mean, that's kind of, that seems like your thing, right?”
Challenges of Living and Competing in Ukraine
31:45 to 34:47
Alexandra elaborates on the difficulties she faces living in Ukraine while competing.
“soldier he's uh he's volunteered to go to to war in 2024 and he was always with me uh before before before he went to army on tour.”
The Silence on Tour Regarding Ukraine
34:47 to 36:24
She voices her frustrations about the lack of support for Ukraine in tennis.
“Many players are supportive and they are saying lots of kind words and they, you know, they are really informed.”
Influence of Top Players and Silence
36:24 to 38:47
Alexandra discusses the responsibility of top players to speak out against the war.
“This is something what's affecting my life directly, because if we will speak about tennis players, this is people with a lot of publicity, a lot of influence, a lot of money, and this is the people who can change a lot.”
Family Support Amidst Challenges
38:47 to 40:50
She shares a touching moment about her father's visit and their bond.
“When she says that she don't have any influence on what is happening in her country by being now the most, let's say, the most important person in the Western world from Belarus who can speak out.”
Facing Russian Opponents
40:50 to 42:01
Alexandra reflects on the emotional aspect of playing against Russian players.
“When was he last able to watch you play a professional match?”
Facing Russian Opponents: A Personal Perspective
42:01 to 43:40
Learn about the challenges and mental approach of a player facing Russian opponents amidst geopolitical tensions.
“what that experience is like for you facing a Russian opponent?”
The Importance of Dialogue in Tennis
43:41 to 44:21
Explore the significance of conversations around sensitive issues in sports, including potential meetings with icons.
“And that was clearly something, the prospect of which meant an awful lot to Olenakova.”
WTA's Position on War and Player Expression
44:22 to 45:30
Understand the WTA's stance on the conflict in Ukraine and its implications for player freedom of expression.
“And she said at the time, Sabalenka, I want peace.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:10Hello friends and welcome to Tennis Podcast Meets where we take you behind the scenes over the opening weekend of every Grand Slam and speak to a range of players that will be competing on the courts over the weeks to come. In this edition, we hear from young up-and-coming players Martin Landa-Luthe and Alexander Blocks about their breakthrough years on the ATP Tour and Roland Garros, and from Turkish trailblazer Zeynep Somes. And we finish with an incredible conversation that I had with Alexandra Olenikova, the only top Ukrainian player still based in her homeland. Now, Oliver Kova speaks so passionately for 15 minutes about why she refuses to keep quiet as the war rages on and how she hopes to use her platform to make a difference.
0:56That's coming up later, but first, let's hear from David talking in his favourite place amid the hustle and bustle of the interview area with American 22-year-old Ethan Quinn. Well, Ethan, lovely to meet you. And how does it feel to be here? Part of the main draw, part of the big circuit here? Yeah, it's amazing. Had a really good result here last year. So, you know, just getting back into my comfort zone, getting back into the locker room here was pretty rewarding. You know, the first day we drove back on site, we drove past the qualifying, you know, drop off for the cars. And I was like, whoa, whoa, wait, wait.
1:30And so, you know, I'm having to change my brain of being directly into the main draw this year. So I'm really, really happy to be able to qualify straight into the main, you know, have an extra week playing on a match in Hamburg, get some good preparation, you know, a week to train my body. So I'm really happy with that. And then, you know, today's my first time like doing a media type of day before the tournament. You know, typically for me, I've done media during the tournament, but I've never done it prior. So it's a it's a step up in the world of tennis and I'm happy to do it. Well, it's lovely for us to see you, to meet you and to do it on a slightly strange occasion because the world's tennis players are making a stand about only doing 15 minutes of media today.
2:08I guess we we're the lucky ones. We get to speak to you with it within that. This is all a bit of a strange environment, isn't it, at the moment? I mean, yeah, for sure. But I mean, I'm just happy to be here getting to share my type of story. You know, it's not often that I get to, like I was saying, talk to talk to media before the tournament. So I'm just happy to be here and, you know, get to talk and have some fun before the tournament as well. How do you view clay? I remember the American players obviously play a lot of clay in Houston and places like that. And obviously over the years there have been some great results.
2:38But typically, you know, it's it's it's a tough transition at times. I remember Ben Shelton playing his first clay court season and he'd not really been out the country before. How do you find it? You know I love the clay. As a kid I went to Italy a lot. My family would do family vacations to Italy and you know I'd miss a month of playing tournaments and so I'd practice on the clay here with a local pro in Italy at whatever you know tennis courts were close by. So you know I had an early development on the clay but my first season on the clay didn't go nearly as the way I wanted it. You know, it's a lot different when you're playing the guys that have grown up on it, that have lived on it, you know, competing for your livelihood on it.
3:18So it's the first few seasons I really struggled on it. Last year I really started to feel like, all right, I understand a little bit more. I understand how to play clay court tennis. You know, sometimes I still have a love-hate relationship with it when it comes to moving. You know, it's something that you just have to think about. You know, it's not as natural for me, for maybe some other players. and I think that's similar with a lot of Americans. The movement side of things is probably the most difficult part of it. The French Open clay is the best in the world by far, and so the way that you can produce your tennis is you can play a little bit more aggressive, and so I feel like the Americans tend to like it a little bit more here than maybe a slower type of court like Rome.
3:58I know personally I like playing here a lot more because I can play my aggressive style and I actually get rewarded versus in Rome I feel like the slower courts actually hurt you a little bit. but overall you know the Americans they tend to play Houston I didn't play Houston this year it's a great tournament but I just wanted to try and you know play new tournaments each season try and do something different so I went to Monte Carlo to start the season and you know I didn't really get the best result there but it was the getting on the clay early getting to Europe early and just getting that practice on it which would with the goal of having it help me out here.
4:29Sounds like you're almost investing in the future rather than just looking at results for now. Exactly right you You know, the first season we came over here, I played two challengers. I played Geneva Qualies, and I didn't win a match. You know, I lost in straights, I believe. Or no, I didn't lose in straights, but I lost all the matches. And, you know, I really felt bad about myself for losing those matches. But, you know, the next year I came back and I was like, okay, I'm a little better spot. And then the next year I'm going to come back and I'll be in a little better spot. So it's just a long-term play coming over and, you know, not skipping the challengers or not skipping, you know, this clay court season.
5:00You know, a lot of times players can go to Asia and play on the hard court swing there. and you know for me I just felt like all right this is the the best thing for my career long term this is you know what you dream of when you're a kid is playing the big events your dream of playing the 1000s the 500s the grand slams so you know I'm not going to skip that opportunity to have good results. Is there any element of those decisions driven by wanting experiences in life at all because obviously you're a tennis player you want to be the best tennis player you can be but you know as you said you've come to Monte Carlo rather than playing in something like Houston, that isn't a decision that everybody of your age would necessarily make.
5:35I wonder how you find these experiences. Do you use somebody that goes out of the hotel and has a look around? Yeah, I definitely am a player who likes to go out. My favorite thing that I like to do is look for restaurants that are a little bit niche, a little bit hidden, even if they're inexpensive, but it's this hole in the wall that's delicious. That's the best thing ever. That's finding the golden nugget. And so I really do enjoy getting out of the hotel. as for coming over you know I really wanted to be able to figure out you know for a few my future career is all right you know now I know how to break up my trip if I'm going to come over here you know this this year I stayed over from Monte Carlo until now and so you know next year maybe I'll be able to break it up a little bit differently where I have a little bit more time at home you know in between maybe a tournament or something like that so it's just a learning what works for me I think that's the thing that's most important last year I figured out a few things like that as well as you know maybe I stayed over a little bit too long and in Asia you know I stayed Asia through the end of the year in Europe and you know I felt like that was too long for me so it's just those learning curves um that come when you're a younger player on tour and so that way my future um as I'm an older guy on tour I can really make sure I manage my my weeks a little bit better and you know I still feel fresh coming into this week and so even though you know I probably could have gone home it's like fine I'm feeling good I'm ready to to compete here and have a long trip.
6:50One of the things you said about Clay was movement is is the big challenge and you're a big guy you know you're a tall guy I can pretty much look eye to eye with you um another big guy that I've read you idolize was one Martin Del Potro and I don't think anybody who watches you play can fail to notice your forehand and how devastating it is is was his forehand something that you looked at and I don't know copied or was influenced by at all yeah I wouldn't necessarily say I copied it um you know actually I copied the forehand of when I was seven years old I'd go to Brad Stein's Academy in Fresno and there was this one kid Billy Griffith who was you know a top junior and he had this cobra forehand that I just loved the look of it I know cobra forehand so when it the way I hit my forehand that's a cobra that's kind of what we call it you know Australians call it goosey we Americans call it a cobra and so uh um that's just I loved his forehand and I tried to model it after his and you know it just happened that the way that Del Potro played his game with was with a big forehand and I feel like all right if I can structure the way that I play points the way that I play my tennis after his, you know, I could have a pretty good career, you know, considering he's one of the few players to win a Grand Slam during that era of the big three.
8:03You know, I feel like he's a really good player to idolize and emulate. And so, you know, I kind of just have watched film of him, you know, when it comes to, you know, how he returned, you know, he had a big forehand. So it's like figuring out how to keep my forehand return a little bit more compact. And, you know, I learned things from guys like him and Jack Sock as well. Any specific goals for you for this year? You know, I think the thing that we started off with at the beginning of this year was to be able to walk off the court proud of the product that I put out there. You know, not focusing on wins or losses, but actually focusing on, you know, the mental side of things.
8:34If I walked off the court and I competed as hard as I could, you know, if I was able to, you know, not throw out any points, if I didn't have that long elapses on the court. You know, I think that's the thing that my coaches and I, we've been talking about a lot is to be able to be a little bit more optimistic. And, you know, in life, I'm a pretty optimistic person, but when I'm on court, I can get pretty pessimistic. so you know we're trying to figure out all right how can I be proud of what I'm putting on court even if I lose the match and you know if I'm able to lose and have a smile on my face then you know it's a good match and it's a good effort and then I can roll on to the next match not down.
9:03Sounds very mature. Just as a final point I mean you went through the college system do you think it maybe helps a young player I mean you're still a young player but you're not teenage 17 young do you think it's helped at all that you've gone through the college process before taking these sort of big steps and being here with us on media day at a Grand Slam? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, in college, you have to really understand how to manage your time, manage your distractions, play for something bigger than just yourself. You know, you have five other guys playing at the same time as you, so you're really having to figure out, you know, your emotions when there's a big crowd.
9:38You know, Athens has the best crowds in the country. And so being able to manage yourself while you have 3 ,000 people barking at you, you have five other players, you know, yelling after every single point, You know, you're really having to figure out how to manage your emotions, how to manage your game, be able to stay focused on yourself while also trying to, you know, put forth a competitive environment for your teammates to kind of vibe off of. It was really good for me. You know, I also had to deal with a lot of ups and downs when I was in school. You know, I had a really good end of my career and a really good start in my career.
10:05But right in that middle in college, I really sucked, to be honest with you. I lost a lot of matches. Do you know what? Do you know why? Man, I wish I knew why. I don't know what it was, but just, you know, I really struggled once we got into dual match season. I couldn't figure out those emotions. And, you know, it was a troubling time. I felt like I was like not wanting to leave my room because I felt like I was leaving guys down. And, you know, having that experience really helped me when I first came on tour. I really struggled when I first came on tour. But, you know, having the experience of, you know, not having a good middle part of my college career helped me get through that and be able to get to where I'm at now.
10:38Well, you're doing just fine. And congratulations for being here and being in the main draw. and thank you for your time here on the tennis podcast. Thank you, thank you. Zeynep, thanks so much for speaking to us. It's great to meet you. It's quite a strange day, media day here for us. Obviously, the top ten players are doing this protest. They're saying that it's for the lower-ranked players. I'm just kind of curious what it's like for you, whether anything's been communicated to you, whether you're involved. No, I mean, I haven't talked to any player about it. But I mean, I understand what they're trying to do.
11:16And I mean, to be honest, they were working very hard. Everyone is, I mean, it's obviously tennis is like a very popular sport in the world. And a lot of people are watching it. And these events are very big events. So, of course, players would like to get what they deserve. and I think they are trying to get whatever, like, you know, like they're trying, they're thinking that they, we deserve more. And so, I mean, I respect everyone's opinion. Thank you. It's interesting to hear about. I want to talk a little bit about your 2026 so far. I know you've been working with Ism and spent the off season with him.
12:03Obviously the fruits of that seem to be showing in the results. Tell me a little bit about that relationship. what's working about it? Yeah, I think it's going great. I feel very lucky to have Issam in my team. He's a very experienced and a great coach. In the first couple of months, I would say we got used to each other. He didn't know me. I didn't know him. So we went to some tournaments together and we practiced a lot and we spent a lot of time off court to get to know each other more and to be able to understand each other better on court and off court and I think we found I think we clicked very well and so I'm happy to have him in my team I think he's bringing a lot and he's teaching me a lot.
12:49Was it Ons did Ons kind of help bring the relationship about? I mean no I knew Ons from before but it was like it was not like Ons didn't tell me to work with him it was not the case but uh yeah she knew she was there in dubai she lives there so um yeah she knew that we were going to work together um but no like she was not the one who said guys work together has she been a significant sort of person in your in your life on in your kind of tennis journey uh i mean i mean she inspired a lot of people including me of course she's a great athlete and she changed tennis for her country. So she's a very, very important player, of course.
13:36And yeah, I mean, you know, like sometimes when I was in Dubai, I would see her at the academy like a few times and I would talk to her about like, you know, about tennis a little bit. So yeah, she's a great player and great person overall. I read about how you went to the WTA finals in Istanbul when they were there. What do you remember about that experience? It must have been kind of very inspiring to see those top players. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, it was a great event. I remember I was very young, but I remember my mom would pick me up from the school and we would go directly to watch the matches.
14:16Mario Sharapova, Serena Williams, they were all playing. And of course, it was great because it was WTA finals. You know, they're the best players in the world. and it was a great experience to watch those players in a very young age. So, yeah, I remember those days. It was good. It was a good experience. Was there any player in particular that you were like, I want to be like her? I mean, to be honest, I don't remember if Simona Hale played, but growing up, I really liked her game. And Lina was there, I remember. So I was watching her matches too. And I was obviously watching Sharpoa and Serena Williams.
14:53so I mean they were all very good so I was trying to watch every match. I commentated on your match against Ekaterina Alexandrova in Australia this year and the Turkish support was absolutely incredible and obviously you get that wherever you go. What's that like? It feels like you have a whole country behind you every time you play. Yes it definitely felt amazing I didn't know there were that many Turkish people so I was surprised when I went on the court. I saw many flags and there were many people so of course it was a great experience for me. I felt that I was supported and I felt like I was at home to be honest and I was very very far from home but so I'm very grateful and thankful for the support.
15:43Does it come with pressure kind of being your countries representative? Of course I think it comes with pressure but I believe that I give them the reason to believe in me so that's why I feel that pressure and so it means I'm doing something right so I'm trying to see it as a I'm trying to see it in that way more so I'm trying to take it and you know I said yeah I'm doing something great but I can do more so I will try to work on it and I will try to get better like but definitely comes with the pressure. If you to describe yourself as a tennis player, your brand of tennis, how would you describe it?
16:19I think I'm still changing some things in my game, but overall I'm a player who runs a lot. And even when I'm on defense, I'm trying to turn it into an attack game. So on court, I think things can change very fast in my game. I'm trying to use every part of the court. I'm trying to change the rhythm but like I said maybe like six months from now I'm going to be a little bit different than right now so yeah those are the things that I think I have right now. How would you like to be different? What's the kind of project? I mean I would like to change the game a little bit more be able to change the game like with slides maybe with high balls I would like to improve my serve a bit more and overall I think because when you improve your serve I think it affects your game, overall game, because you feel more confident in your other shots because on your serve games you feel more confident.
17:17So on your return games you can take more risks. It's all connected, I think. I get the impression you're kind of a goal setter, like you dream big. Could you share what the goal is for 2026 or maybe one of them? I mean, definitely I would like to improve my game. and I think the ranking comes with it, so I'm not trying to think too much about the ranking, because sometimes when you're trying to add things to your game, like a few weeks or a few months, maybe it doesn't work out, but in the end you have to trust the process and keep going, so I don't want to set a goal with a ranking, but definitely I would like to improve everything in my game, like my forehand, my backhand, and overall, I mean, the most important thing, I think, my serve.
18:07so yeah those are my goals I wish you the best of luck it's great to speak to you, thank you have a good tournament
18:18how are you feeling just coming into Roland House tournament you know so well I try and get the best possible preparation for this tournament my eyes were looking towards this tournament the whole time and now we're here so this is exactly the moment that I was hoping to get to well prepared and I feel like right now I can say that with confidence I'm well prepared Is it a place that you want to see it as a reverse place maybe, like to come back to the top top level and to be against the best player again I would definitely say that it takes a few matches to get into that mindset because it's always so different when you start a tournament and you're in the first few rounds and you're not seeing where you're kind of leaning towards with your game.
19:07So it's a very difficult observation right now. Because, yeah, I might be practicing well, I might be hitting well and doing well in practice sets and stuff, but that doesn't really translate into an actual match. So I want to see how those matches begin and start. And based on the outcomes of those sets, of how I adapt to certain situations, I guess I can really give a clear answer, not to you guys, but to myself. Do you feel like you're in the good direction for that? In tennis-wise? My coaches so far have been happy with the way I've been training. It also comes from the coach and the staff and the team members that are part of your ecosystem.
19:48So they're liking what they're seeing so far. If I was to assess it myself, there are still a few things that I could definitely get better at. but I feel like that's the place that I know really well. The clay is a surface that I've mastered over the years and I felt like I've had my best results or cure on the surface. So I have no doubt about my possibilities as a player, especially in Paris. Yeah, I mean, you know your level, your capabilities better than anybody because you've reached the final here and you came so close. can you understand where you were then versus where you are now and what you would need to maybe do to get kind of back to where you were wins consistent wins not just one or two in a tournament we're talking about like getting consistently in the three to four to five wins over a tournament over and over again that you start building something meaningful for yourself like of course my goal is not to win just one match or two matches in a tournament i'm working for much bigger than that and well i did have a long run a deeper run in madrid which is already a good sign but i need more of those they haven't been enough and i need more of those and madrid was the first time that i felt like i still got this and i'm it's just in my head so i just need to push a little bit more and adjust to certain things adjust to certain situations I didn't regret my loss in Madrid because I tried my best and I did whatever I knew at that time with the tools that I had available in that particular match to get over it.
21:34It didn't really work out at the end but I'm still very happy with the way I fought and made this match a big battle. Maybe a question on Yannick and Carlos. Did you watch the final last year? Yes. Can you tell me what you felt on your TV? Was it like, oh, it's a different sport and I'm far from that or do you feel you still can compete with this level of tennis? I feel the difference is definitely physical. Some of those athletes you see, like Carlos and Yannick, they have this capacity of playing the same tennis over and over again and their physicality doesn't drop. What happens with tennis is everyone can play a good one set, max maybe sometimes in their best case scenario two sets but those Grand Slam matches are like marathons.
22:16They are very different in their form than they are on the regular tour. You see some upsets on the regular tour outside of slums of players beating good players. But this is concentration and physicality that only lasts for two sets. Those Grand Slam matches, they require you being explosive, having the legs of a rugby player and the lungs of a marathon runner in order to keep repeating those shots and keep hitting those winners and defending over and over again. and what happens with most of the athletes, we all kind of hit the same. We all hit with the same pace, with the same power, pretty much.
22:52It's rare you're going to find players that, you know, the speeds are that much different. So at the end, it comes down, in my opinion, it comes down to the physicality and how fresh you are when the match gets into the four or five sets, how much you can actually, the one that can reduce his level less in terms of speed, in terms of legs, explosiveness when you serve. those things scientifically show that most of the players drop so the one that drops the less amount ends up having a big advantage when they play these type of matches and you have to do this every single every second day you have a day off and you have to do it all over again so the one who's able physically to withstand that better is is the winner and that's what i did really well when i played finals here i was able to recreate that over and over again and And, you know, my back kind of ruined it for me for the past year or so.
23:47That's my answer. How are you feeling physically at the moment? Great. Nothing to complain about. I feel great. Thank you very much. Thank you. Martin, how does it feel to be here in your position after such good results recently? How do you feel about your progress? It feels amazing. I think I've made really good progress in the last two months. All the effort, all the work I was putting in, it shined. The last tournaments have been really nice. In clay, I've demonstrated myself that I can beat good players, I can do good results in the top tournaments. And we'll see here, it's the first Grand Slam I entered on the main draw with my ranking.
24:32So very, very happy to be here. I'm practicing with really good players this day, so improving my level, improving my game. Yeah, I mean, you've definitely shown how capable you are recently. And as you say, you've proved it on clay. You're here at Roland Garros. And yet I read that grass is perhaps the surface you like the best. Why is that? Because my game adapts really well. I really enjoy playing there, trying to slide in the possible ways, serving volley. There's like a lot of possibilities and games to improve and to adapt to your game and to complement your game. so it's really nice to play that month of the year and coming from the level I'm having I really have good hope on what I can do on grass so enjoy this tournament, play my best and then enjoy the next month.
25:23These are good times, we wish you the best. Thank you. Well Alex, welcome and congratulations on the excellent results you've been having. How do you feel coming in here to Roland Garros with the results behind you? Yeah, I'm feeling good. I've had some good results the last weeks, but that doesn't mean that they will come every week. I still need to stay grounded, to work as hard as I did before. And yeah, it's just a nice opportunity to play the main draw here. It's not the 10th time I'm playing a main draw, so it's just my second time. so I'll be ready, excited and I'll do everything I can to bring that level that I had two weeks ago again.
26:16You've had a lot of experiences the last couple of months, haven't you? What have you learned about yourself and about, I guess, what you need to be able to do to compete at this level? I think the experience is a big part to play against those guys at the highest level more and more. I feel like in the beginning of the swing I had some close losses, which I needed to improve myself. Afterwards, I felt like I did that well in Madrid against a few really good players, which maybe a few weeks before I would have lost the match, I managed to come out on top, because I mentally was better prepared for it.
27:04I knew I had to do certain things better than before and I think that is a really important part to win those matches. I was reading that your parents were both athletes, your dad on the track and your mom a swimmer. Did you ever have a difficult decision at all to make about what route to follow yourself? No, not really. I always played tennis and I knew from a very young age that I wanted to be the best at it and to give everything I had to put it into tennis. So I didn't really have a decision to make. Did you ever ask them about their athletic careers at all? yeah but I mean they were not like superstars or anything they they just did some professional sport and they just know what I'm doing and going through and I think that's also an important part yeah exciting days ahead the best of luck to you thank you very much Alexandra thanks so much for speaking to us it is great to meet you and what a year you've had career high ranking, climbing all the time, a lot of attention on you as well.
28:27Can you describe what 2026 has been like for you so far, both on and off the court? Of course, something new, new challenges, new experience. And yeah, in general, of course, I'm happy to play on the better tournaments. I did so much to participate on this level. so yeah we will talk only about the tennis part of course I think there is the things which I can be happy and proud but yeah it was happening really a lot of things on tour so yeah you have a very distinctive playing style which is great to watch I know you've earned a lot of fans this year how did how did your style of play develop when you were younger um you know I just wanted to be myself on court and this is something that was important for me I was always playing a bit different and I think I feel the game a bit on my own way so yeah that's what I actually decided to improve so not you know make my game more standard but to make this difference in my game style my weapon you know so I accepted that I will have my own way.
29:48If it will take time, that's okay. I'm ready for all challenges, but I will continue and I don't want to change myself. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of, that seems like your thing, right? Doing things your way, having your own style. And that's not always easy for young women to be prepared to stand out. Is Is that who you've always been, even when you were really little? Yeah, I think I was kind of raised like this because my father, he was always telling me that you're different. Don't look to everybody else. You have your own way. So, yeah, now I don't even feel like, you know, this is something special if we will speak about this part.
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30:38I think the only way I could make good results because now when I'm older I don't think that it would be possible for me to become a tennis professional in any other way so yeah for me it's actually this part of being myself and not changing myself it's actually very normal because this is something that I had for all my life and I was raised like this Does it ever feel scary to stand out, to be different? No, no, I'm not scared. It's the only one way for me, as I told. So, yeah, I just feel normal like this. It's amazing. It's brilliant to see. It's very inspiring. You know, it applies to the way you speak out about things that matter to you, about the war in Ukraine and the Russian invasion.
31:33is that a is that a motivator for you on the tennis court because obviously with success comes attention and a platform to talk about the things that matter to you uh yeah actually for me it's the reason i'm playing because i live in ukraine my home is in ukraine my father is a soldier he's uh he's volunteered to go to to war in 2024 and he was always with me uh before before before he went to army on tour. And of course, to share our story is a huge motivation for me. I see my future in Ukraine and the war is actually define my life, how it will be. So tennis, it's a big platform. And I think for sport, it's very important, you know, also to speak about the values of humanity and to unite people for what is right and yeah otherwise you know I'm someone who is enjoying game but I don't need a big stadium so yeah I was always I always tell that I love tennis in any way you know I can just play in a small club in my country I will be happy because of the game and I'm not that much focused on the result but the motivation to be on the big tournaments, it's of course to do my best to help people in my country and to put the attention that we still need support.
33:05I think you are the only top player that still lives from Ukraine, that still lives and trains there. On a practical level, can you share a little bit of what that's like, the challenges of it? I imagine there are difficulties with travel in and out of Ukraine and facilities, that kind of thing. Yes, for me, this is very hard because, I mean, this is my choice. I want to live at home and I want to build my future in Ukraine. This is very important for me because the people I love there and I love my country. and the other players they chose to leave outside and this is their decision I mean it's normal but I have my own way again and it's hard to travel sometimes I'm not at home for a couple of months if it's a short spot between the tournament that I just have no time to come back home and because it's not possible to fly there and I live in Kiev it's over 700 kilometers from the border so you know first you need to get to the border then you need to drive 10 hours inside Ukraine so yeah and I sometimes I'm not seeing my family I'm not seeing my boyfriend for months so yeah of course it's very hard for me it would be so much easier if I will just be able to come home between the tournaments like all the other players so yeah sometimes I'm just I just feel crazy on tour but yeah like I have so many supportive people so I don't think I do the good thing for by playing tennis does that ever feel lonely that your experience on tour is so different to everybody else, all the other players?
35:12I mean, of course, it's difficult. Many players are supportive and they are saying lots of kind words and they, you know, they are really informed. So I can hear... How to explain? This is some small things, some small kind words, but this is something that means a lot today. And for me, in my situation, every time I hear something like this from another player, I appreciate it a lot, and it helps me to feel better. In terms of sort of bigger gestures, I mean, we've had the players the last couple of days, I don't know if you know about this, but they've been protesting about prize money, kind of proving that when something matters to them, they can speak out and put themselves on the line.
36:11Do you find that frustrating that there is now a lot of silence around Ukraine? Yes, this is very frustrating. And this silence on tour, for me, this is something what's very problematic. This is something what's affecting my life directly, because if we will speak about tennis players, this is people with a lot of publicity, a lot of influence, a lot of money, and this is the people who can change a lot. I believe that sport, this is the part of culture which unites people for the right things. But now when we see this silently, for me, I think this is the very bad message, especially when on the tour so many people so many tennis players from Belarus and from Russia who are supporting their regimes and there is a lot of effects of the media activity on the social media comments, likes many activity like in the past by playing with pro-war sponsors by going to the Gazprom tournament.
37:31I think you know that we are not allowed to participate in the tournaments which are organized by betting companies. But there is no any reaction on players participating of the tournament of the company which is financing war crimes. And there is no reaction on this. I don't understand how it's possible. The players, let's say top female player, Arina Sabalenka, world number one. She signed in 2020 the document to support Lukashenko. She never pulled out. There is multiple video photos of her with Belarusian dictator. She is not commenting this. Nobody is commenting this. We are protecting like nothing happened.
38:24Let's make a photo of new Gucci back. And me, when I come back home, I live in Kiev, the attacks with massive drones and rockets will come from Belarus to my home. And how should I feel? I mean, for me, it's terrible when, let's say this person, Arina Sabalenka, we talk about her. She's the most famous Belarusian woman in the world. When she says that she don't have any influence on what is happening in her country by being now the most, let's say, the most important person in the Western world from Belarus who can speak out. I mean, for me, it's the absurd. She can influence on so many minds.
39:14And yeah, we see the same silence from Russian tennis players, from many of them. we for me it's very big problem also because you know the WTA this is the organization which was made with the idea that the woman that we can you know we are the serious athletes so we also can speak about important things the WTA was created but by the Billie Jean King you You know, and what's happening now when the women players were so many influence, pretending like the only thing they can think about is a Gucci bag. That's an absurd, you know, and for me, it's very triggering. I know in Strasbourg last week, you said your dad was going to be able to come out to France.
40:10Is he here? Yes, yes, he's here. He actually came to Strasbourg, but because I stretched my leg during the first match with Eala, I was supposed to retire from my second round. But now I'm recovering. I'm having a bit of rest. Tomorrow I will start to practice. So I hope it will be fine. And, yeah, for him to be here, this is his dream. So, yeah, his emotions. Like, I'm so happy. He's a bit even like a kid, you know. So he's inspired by everything. He's super happy to be here. And I mean, this is an amazing tournament. When was he last able to watch you play a professional match? August 2024. And he watched this match.
41:01And after this, he went straight to the army. I remember it was ITF 35 in Romania I remember it very good unfortunately it was the final but unfortunately I lost and I was so upset because I mean my opponent in that match you show great tennis but you know when you're playing not your best and I think it also was the part that it was so important for me so I was just shaking on the court and yeah I'm so upset that this match was not my best. But yeah, now he's here and he's also having this contrast with futures and Grand Slam. So yeah. A lot's changed. Yeah, so many things changed. So I think the most important thing and for him it's the most important thing that we made our dream real.
41:54Do you know your draw? Yeah, I know. So you know you play a Russian player. Yes, I know. Can you just tell me what that experience is like for you facing a Russian opponent? You know, when I'm facing Russian opponents, I'm not thinking too much about them. I feel unfair that we're closing eyes on some facts. And it's also when I see Russian players in the draw playing against me, I always have this in my mind. But, you know, I don't, you know, when I play, I just try to play, to show my tennis. This is what's important for me when I'm on court. And what I'm knowing is that I'm speaking out the facts, I'm speaking out about what's happening in my country, about how sport is important and how the things we will do on tour can change the things to better or worse.
43:01You know, it depends. Right now, the silences, it's a very big problem. But again, I'm speaking out and yeah, I'm not overthinking because it's just a match. But of course, I always, when I see this draw, I have on my mind the things which are behind. What's happening on court, you know, one day I can win, one day I can lose. It's again, match by match, tournament by tournament. We play so many matches during the year, so it's not that important, but I believe I do the right thing, and that's what I'm trying to be focused on. Well, I wish you the very best of luck. It's been wonderful to speak to you.
43:44Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. and just to say I stopped the recorder there but I did go on to say to Alexandra that I thought that Billie Jean King would really like her and that they would have an awful lot to talk about with one another and she was so taken with me saying that and actually the WTA communications manager that was present overheard that chit chat and said yeah you're absolutely right we should we We should try and make that happen on the Kova meeting Billie Jean. And that was clearly something, the prospect of which meant an awful lot to Olenakova. Just to say that for her part, Irina Sabalenka has been asked about similar comments that Olenakova has made about her, as you heard there earlier this year.
44:32And she said at the time, Sabalenka, I want peace. And if I could change anything, I would definitely do that. Other than that, I have nothing else to say. And earlier this month, Charlie Eccleshare reported that Olenakova had said she had been threatened with thousands of dollars of fines and disqualification by the WTA over her criticism. The WTA spokesman said to The Athletic at the time, The WTA recognises that the ongoing war in Ukraine continues to have a profound and deeply personal impact on many of our athletes. We remain unequivocal in condemning Russia's war in Ukraine and have consistently supported our Ukrainian players since the start of the conflict.
45:10This is an extraordinarily sensitive situation and we understand players will have strong personal views. All WTA athletes have the right to express themselves. At the same time, the WTA is committed to maintaining a professional and respectful environment for all athletes, regardless of nationality or country of origin. Our code of conduct exists to uphold this standard consistently across the tour. That's it for this edition of Tennis Podcast Meets. We hope it's whetted your appetite for the 15 days of tennis to come. We will have daily podcasts throughout and we will have our Roland Garros review show exclusively for you friends of the pod at the end of it all.
45:52We can't wait. We hope you feel the same. Thank you for listening. Thank you for being a friend. We'll speak to you soon.
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This weekend David and Catherine have been putting in the time in The Area producing interviews for another packed edition of Tennis Podcast Meets.
With David you’ll hear from Ethan Quinn on his long-term approach to clay and his ‘cobra’ forehand, up-and-comers Martin Landaluce and Alexander Blockx on their new lives on tour, and Stefanos Tsitsipas on his quest to get back to the top of the sport.
Plus, Catherine talks to Zeynep Sonmez about working with Ons Jabeur’s coach and being Turkey’s leading player, before an extraordinary fifteen minutes with Oleksandra Oliynykova about life on tour as a Ukrainian and using her platform to speak out.
