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This bonus episode of The Tennis Podcast focuses on Wimbledon 2026 “Tennis Podcast Meets,” with seven player interviews on grass, form, and mental approaches. Key topics include: Katie McNally’s Wimbledon 2024 set-taking moment vs Iga Swiatek, her injury comeback, and her use of creative drop shots under pressure; Raphael Collignon’s grass fit, big-stage mindset, and fashion interests; Tommy Paul’s grass confidence, all-court style, and why he prefers knowing his draw as late as possible; Corentin Moutet’s grass game, variety (including underarm serve/drop-shot instincts), and his apology after a Queens interview fine for using the “f-word.” Other guests: Eva Jovic (nickel injury at Queens, Serena in the draw, crowd dynamics, doubles interest) and Nikola Bartonkova (Wimbledon history, grass results, near-miss vs Sabalenka, managing expectations). Barbora Krejcikova (2024 Wimbledon champion) discusses not wanting to know opponents, her “dormant volcano” comeback pattern, and Marketa Vondrousova’s four-year ban for refusing a doping test.
Notable examples
McNally taking a set off Swiatek; Krejcikova’s mental approach; Moutet’s Queens fine; Jovic’s Serena draw context.
Guests
Katie McNally, Raphael Collignon, Tommy Paul, Corentin Moutet, Eva Jovic, Nikola Bartonkova, Barbora Krejcikova.
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0:45 to 2:42
Discussion about various player interviews featured in this episode.
“and about now being in a draw with Serena Williams.”
Katie McNally Interview Introduction
2:42 to 3:00
David introduces the first interview with Katie McNally at Wimbledon.
“It's great to see you back here at Wimbledon.”
Katie McNally's Grass Court Experience
3:00 to 6:06
Katie shares her thoughts on playing on grass and experiences at Wimbledon.
“And, yeah, I'm just looking forward to going out there and seeing what I can do.”
Katie McNally's Injury Journey
6:06 to 7:42
Katie discusses her injuries and the challenges faced on her path back to tennis.
“I think, you know, I just come off of tearing my hamstring, you know, before French Open and then obviously dealing with the elbow injury that never really got any better.”
Playing Style Insights
7:42 to 8:52
Katie explains her playing style and approach to high-pressure moments.
“One of the things I've noticed watching you play this year is a couple of epic matches where you've saved match points with the most daring drop shots at the most stressful looking times.”
Facing Serena Williams
8:52 to 10:48
Katie reflects on her past experience playing against Serena Williams.
“I mentioned that the first time I saw you play, I think you were 17 at the U.S.”
Balancing Singles and Doubles
10:48 to 12:45
Katie discusses her approach to balancing singles and doubles play.
“Then it's like you have hard decisions to make.”
Looking Ahead at Wimbledon
12:45 to 14:00
Katie shares her perspective on her Wimbledon draw and upcoming matches.
“So, like, I'm just trying to get through the first match and focus on that one, and then I'll have a day off, and then I'll focus, you know, hopefully on the next one.”
Preparing for Wimbledon: Insights from a Player
14:00 to 18:08
Learn about the challenges and excitement of preparing for Wimbledon from a player's perspective.
“So it's usually like a close match that if you win two, three points more than your opponent, then you win the match.”
Handling Pressure and Public Perception
18:08 to 20:38
Discover how athletes navigate public scrutiny and pressure after matches.
“and i never wish that so if i could change it i will change it and i will try to make it as as good as so everybody will feel good about this interview and yeah I just feel sorry for the situation you know that's it.”
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Experiences and Emotions at Wimbledon
20:38 to 24:16
Explore the emotional connection players have with Wimbledon and their early memories.
“and not maybe as rowdy as some of the other groups.”
The Unique Challenges of Grass Courts
24:16 to 27:38
Understand the distinct difficulties players face on grass courts and their strategies.
“running to her in the locker room or something like that.”
Rivalry and Support Among Belgian Players
27:38 to 28:00
Learn about the camaraderie and competition among Belgian tennis players.
“what you can do on the big stage is that something you enjoy as a tennis player a big stage?”
Belgian Players and Rivalry
28:00 to 30:10
Explore the dynamics among Belgian tennis players and their support for each other.
“against the top players so another top player on Tuesday Can I ask what it is like being amongst other Belgian players at the moment?”
Nicola's Journey to Wimbledon
30:10 to 32:48
Nicola shares her experiences and feelings about competing at Wimbledon.
“This is a tournament you have some history with.”
Expectations and Inspirations
32:48 to 35:45
Discussion on dealing with expectations and inspirations from past players.
“When you were in that position of 6-2-4 love against Irina Sabalenka, what was in your mind at that time?”
Tommy's Grass Court Confidence
35:45 to 42:04
Tommy discusses his comfort on grass courts and his mental approach to matches.
“If I could just ask a couple myself, please.”
Life Beyond Tennis: Coping with Injuries
42:04 to 43:58
Learn how a professional tennis player finds balance and positivity outside of the sport.
“I mean, I'm not only stuck in my bed, not wanting to get out.”
The Dormant Volcano Analogy in Tennis
43:58 to 45:48
Explore the metaphor of being a 'dormant volcano' in a player's career and performance.
“What's your favorite thing to do that's not tennis?”
Challenges of Balancing Media and Performance
45:48 to 47:39
Discover the difficulties players face balancing media obligations with their focus on tennis.
“players are taking limiting their media time Are you aware of the action the top players are taking?”
Reactions to Doping Cases in Tennis
47:39 to 50:28
Gain insight into how doping cases impact players and the broader tennis community.
“I'm just wondering whether you've had a chance to speak to her since the news came out and your general view on what's happened Not really because I didn't really have the opportunity to talk to her.”
Dream Travel Aspirations
50:28 to 52:08
Hear about dream travel destinations and the desire for adventure beyond tennis.
“well I do I mean I love like any type of travel maybe your dream trip then your dream doesn't have to be on a train?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:10Hello friends and welcome to the Tennis Podcast and the latest edition of Tennis Podcast Meets. This is the series where on the eve of every Grand Slam we have chats with some of the players in the draw who have caught our eye in recent weeks or who we're curious about, who we want to get to know better or whose story we want to tell, quite frankly. In this edition, you'll hear interviews with seven players. You'll hear David have a long chat with Katie McNally, first up, about taking a set off Igor Sviantek here at Wimbledon last year, about facing Serena Williams at the age of 17, and about now being in a draw with Serena Williams.
0:52It's a great chat and it's a great way to start off today's episode. You'll also hear David talk fashion with Raphael Collignon. Yes, you heard me right. He has a chat about grass with Tommy Paul and he has a fascinating chat with Corentin Moutet, including about that interview at Queen's. As you can probably tell, David was in flow state yesterday on Media Day here at Wimbledon. And you'll also hear him alongside some of our fellow journalists getting to know super talented youngsters, Eva Jovich and Nikola Bartonkova. And then finally, in this episode, you'll hear Matt and me in conversation with 2024 Wimbledon champion Barbora Krejcikova.
1:37It's a pretty wide ranging discussion and one I think that really gives you a sense of Krejcikova and what she's about. She's one of a kind, I think, Kraychikov, and it was really fascinating to spend 15 minutes with her. We talked about how she doesn't like to know her opponents in advance of the match, which is pretty crazy to me, but a fascinating kind of mental approach to the sport. Matt talks to her about being a dormant volcano, and we also ask her about her fellow Czech and fellow Wimbledon champion, Marketa Vondroshova, and her recent four-year ban for refusing a doping test in December of last year.
2:23So we cover a lot of wide-ranging ground with Barbora Krejcikova and it's, well, I found it really fascinating. I hope you do too. It's a great pleasure to get to do these shows and we really hope you enjoy them. So here it is. First up, David chatting to Katie McNally. Well, Katie, welcome. It's great to see you back here at Wimbledon. I think I'm right in saying this is a surface that you like to play on? Yeah, for sure. Always trying to maximize everything I can get out of these weeks. I think the season goes by so quick. It's kind of crazy to think we're already at Wimbledon. But, yeah, I do love this surface and definitely think I can be dangerous on it.
3:06And, yeah, I'm just looking forward to going out there and seeing what I can do. But, yeah, I do enjoy the grass. I think that my creativity and just the way I play can be pretty dangerous on it. Yeah, I remember I think the first time we ever saw you play tennis, several years ago now, thought, wow, this is a game that could work on grass. Is that what you thought early on? Well, just growing up, never really had the experience on grass, to be honest. I played, I remember actually the first time I played an ITF back in the States. It was actually on grass. I want it and that grass over there is very different to the grass here I feel like uh here it's playing a little bit more like a hard court to be honest like even talking with my coach um the yeah comparing the grass to back in the day like when she used to play she was like you had to be so low on the ground and everything and now it's bouncing up a lot more but um I do think with just the way I can slice and get to the net it can disrupt like a lot of girls that kind of just are all playing from the baseline and kind of playing the same way so um it's kind of just picking and choosing when the right time is but um yeah I think like the more I play on it the more comfortable I get with my movement and just like learning um you know what's working what's not.
4:22We sort of saw that a year ago here because you're the only player who won a set against Stigash Viontech in that in that first set there what what are your memories of that day the level you brought? Yeah, that was obviously an amazing experience. And yeah, one that I'll, you know, never forget that day for sure. Just the first time walking out on center court. And I guess it was the second. I did play a doubles match on there, but first singles match playing someone like Iga, who she's obviously a great champion. So yeah, it was a really cool experience. You know, I learned a lot about myself and the level that I can bring.
4:55And now it's just about, you know, sustaining that for, you know, longer period of time playing you know two two to three sets at that level versus just one um but yeah that experience was was surreal and yeah I can honestly like replay the whole day in my head you know from waking up to going to bed it was just a it was a great day no matter what win or lose obviously I would have liked to win that but um really cool experience and one that I can kind of just like you know keep forever and learn off of it I imagine maybe all the more special because you'd had a couple of really tough years of not being able to play because of your injuries for those who don't know I mean I remember you coming along as a 17 year old and having great results and it was all upward trajectory what what actually then happened what did you go through yeah I mean for sure it's been uh yeah like a bumpy road and a lot of up and a lot of ups and downs and yeah a lot of moments that were really tough and, you know, took me away from playing and just made, yeah, the journey a lot more difficult.
5:59But yeah, I mean, obviously 2024 playing here. Yeah, I think that was like the lowest point of my career. I think, you know, I just come off of tearing my hamstring, you know, before French Open and then obviously dealing with the elbow injury that never really got any better. And then, yeah, ultimately, you know, I was out from, You know, playing here until end of 2025 or 2024. I don't even know that. Was it 2020? You were injured in 2023. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 2023 was really, yeah, that was the year. That was not, that was a really bad year. And then came back at the end of 24. So, yeah, there was just always moments where I felt like I was building momentum and then like, you know, I'd get injured.
6:44but I think you know through it yeah I just learned a lot about my body and the importance of taking care of it and kind of what you know specifically that I need and you know knock on wood that I've been able to you know just play at a high level and just stay injury free for the most part obviously it's a grind there's always going to be little niggles and things here and there but you know nothing major and that's that's the biggest thing is just being able to go out every day and work hard and and play and not have those setbacks so that's been that's been the biggest thing that that was the biggest goal and I think just reminding myself like you know a year ago I was just wanted to play healthy and sometimes I think it can get easy to get caught up in the tour and like wins and losses and like I'm not doing well enough or like you have to sometimes like bring yourself back to earth and be like all right perspective and I'm out here playing again I'm healthy, I can improve.
7:38And that's still the biggest win for me is keeping my health is always going to come first. One of the things I've noticed watching you play this year is a couple of epic matches where you've saved match points with the most daring drop shots at the most stressful looking times. What goes through your mind when you play shots like that at incredibly important moments? Yeah, I mean, I think that's kind of just a part of my game. I think there's for sure moments where I hit drop shots and it's not the right time and it doesn't work out and you learn from it. You know, you lose. Unfortunately, I've lost a lot of matches playing the wrong, you know, the wrong shot, you know, at the at the wrong time.
8:18So you really just learn through experience. And yeah, I mean, like my head's just going to Madrid, Sineac of a match right now when you bring that up. But, yeah, that's just kind of my game. And, you know, I see angles and I see different ways to be creative and go out there and try to disrupt my opponent. So that's just a part of who I am and the tools that I have and picking and choosing when, you know, the right time is. And, yeah, I guess, you know, sometimes being down match point, at that point you have nothing else to lose, you know. You lose this point, it's over, so you're kind of just going to go for it.
8:52I mentioned that the first time I saw you play, I think you were 17 at the U.S. Open. and you played Serena Williams in 2019 and you won the first set of that match she's coming back here this time and playing opponents that you know will have seen her growing up I just wonder you've been in that position I imagine that day what what was that like to to face her in New York and actually do well yeah oh geez I mean it makes me feel a little old not gonna lie I like I've been on the tour for a long time. But yeah, I mean, going back to that day again, I think I'm just a totally different person, a totally different player from from that from that moment.
9:34Obviously, at the time, I just wanted to go out there and try to enjoy the experience. I was probably so nervous, to be honest, and I didn't want to give eye contact to her at all or anything because she's she has that intimidating factor to her. and um you know playing night session on ash was obviously incredible something you always dream of and you know hopefully i get that opportunity again to go out there and play but it's it's incredible to to see that she's back playing to be honest you know the yeah just like the longevity of her career and and coming back out here and competing you know respect to her you know i'm looking forward to watching her play and yeah just so much respect I don't think that will be me to be honest but who knows I don't think in 20 years I'll be playing anymore but yeah I learned a lot I'm not the same person for sure I've grown up so much I've learned so much about myself and that's that's normal you I don't was I 17 at the time like you said so I mean I was just fresh onto of the scene and everything was so new for me so I feel like I've learned a lot about myself what I what I need to do out there to put myself in the best place you know mentally physically so um yeah amazing experience but uh yeah just two final points you you've had great success in doubles and I remember when you partnered Coca-Goff for many years and you you also played with her I think this year in Rome just in terms of of looking at your your future you have such success and ability in doubles but you obviously want to have great success in singles how do you how do you reconcile those two and balance them out do you do you expect to continue playing doubles full-time in the future yeah I think you know especially like early on in my career I think yeah it's always very difficult like you uh you wanted like for me I just wanted to play tennis You know, I want to play singles.
11:29I want to play doubles. But when your ranking is not in a certain position where you're in qualities of tournaments, it gets really difficult to play doubles and events because you make it to second, third round of a tournament and in doubles and you're in qualities the next week. Then it's like you have hard decisions to make. For me, I think, you know, I have to take it week by week. You know, how I have to check in. How am I feeling physically? How am I feeling mentally? Is this a good week to play? um for example like last week didn't play doubles in eastbourne but played the weeks before just to get some more matches on the grass um and i think ultimately like i was a lot of people always kind of labeled me you know you know double success and all this nonsense in my opinion and i think it kind of was just for me like all right i mean i can do both and it's kind of been nice to be able to prove you know that prove that to people that hey i'm not just a doubles player like yeah i've had success in doubles first but you know so did ash barty so did coco vandaway so did jack sock like all these players that won grand slams and doubles like and then they had their success in singles so i think it only can build your game and give you that confidence and at the end of the day like if you win a grand slam and doubles like you want a grand slam so um for me it's it's building blocks it only can help my tennis you know there's certain weeks where i have to be like you know i'm not going to play but um yeah you know the weeks that I can play and do both I will for sure in the future yeah another great example another great example of someone yeah and a final point are you a player who looks at your draw or you just a sort of I want to know my first round opponent and that's it I mean yeah I look at I look at the draw I mean it's it is what it is right you know like it's not like you're going to look at it it's going to change so um it's kind of just reality and you have to get through the first match.
13:19So, like, I'm just trying to get through the first match and focus on that one, and then I'll have a day off, and then I'll focus, you know, hopefully on the next one. So, yeah, I'm not the type that's, like, I can't see. It is what it is. I'm going to open my phone eventually, and it's going to somehow pop up no matter what. So, yeah, not super, not one of those people that's super picky. Like, I can't see it. It's reality. Well, in that case, Elena Rebecca might mean you might get another show court match if you can get that far is that that'd be something to look forward to yeah that's the goal you know let's get through the first one and then uh you know hopefully i can go out there and play against her that'd be really cool lovely to talk to you all the best thank you thank you karen town welcome um how are you feeling about your game coming into wimbledon uh i'm happy to be here i'm happy to play wimbledon you know it's an important event for me very prestigious tournament so yeah happy to be here have still few days to to practice to get ready for my first match and we'll see how it goes how does your game fit on this surface do you think is this is this one of your favorite surfaces favorite i wouldn't say so because there is only four tournaments per year but uh yeah i like it i think it fits well with my game the only thing with grass is that you need to have a good confidence in your game because you need to be aggressive, you know.
14:49So it's usually like a close match that if you win two, three points more than your opponent, then you win the match. It can be very tricky matches. So you need a lot of confidence. And lately I didn't win a lot of matches to have this confidence. so sometimes it can be harder on grass but I enjoy it every time I play on it. You mentioned that you hadn't had that many wins lately and we saw how much it meant to you to get a win at Queen's recently. I imagine that is a boost. Yes, of course. I beat a great player in Queen's. He's playing very, very good on grass so that was a very good victory and then even if I lost the second round I had a great level.
15:33so yeah I'm just struggling to find my rhythm lately but I guess all the players can go through this kind of period you know so I just have to keep being brave and keep showing up every day on the practice doing my job and it's going to be good for sure. I think anybody who watches you play is maybe for the first time is surprised at what they see in terms of your variety of shot and then maybe a sudden drop shot, a sudden underarm serve. Is that how you've always played the sport? Yes, I always try to play with my instinct to stay true to myself and just play how I feel. I think that's the best way for me to perform well.
16:21But for this, you need to have a clear mind so you can make the right choices. so sometimes it's not the easiest way to play but that's my game style that's who i am so i have to stay true to that and keep going on this way and yeah i don't know how to do differently anyway so i just have to be like who i am final one from me current and the last time i saw you here was at queens in that match that you won and then the interview you did afterwards resulted in a lot of publicity and and a fine for you using the f word a few times personally i found it very funny was that your intention to it to just have a joke and what is your response to the fine that you then received as a result of it for me you know it's not even talking about the fine i'm always sorry you know when i offend people that's never my goal obviously it was not my goal during this interview you know i i don't know i tried to have a great time it was spontaneous you know some people had fun some people didn't so you know i just feel sorry for the people that didn't because that was not my intention to offend anybody and uh yeah you know it's you know how it is we have interview every day it's not always uh easy to have the right words and to yeah to say the right thing at the right time it's not always easy especially when you just played a long match with a lot of emotion that was like right after so the only thing i can say is that if i could do it differently i would do it probably because not because what i did was wrong in my opinion but because like apparently it offends some people and i never wish that so if i could change it i will change it and i will try to make it as as good as so everybody will feel good about this interview and yeah I just feel sorry for the situation you know that's it.
18:25Would you like the rules to be a little more calm to allow people like yourself to show a bit of personality like that? I don't know I think I'm not the one who you know decide for the rules I will never be that's not my job so I was not conscious at that moment about the rules that they had but then after a long talk with the officials, with the people involved, even the journalists, you know, who I said sorry because I didn't want to offend her. I don't know, I just feel like it's very hard when you have a camera all the time on you and I'm not talking only about myself, I'm talking about all the players, to always act the way that people want us to act you know that's not always easy um so yeah i don't know i'm just trying to be myself uh i tried to do a joke at this moment apparently it was a bad joke so i just say sorry for that i'm sorry for that and and that's it you know uh i think it's great when people uh when there is interaction with people that's what i like you know to have connection with the people.
19:36I think that's why sport is made. You know, it's like to inspire people, to connect with people, to share a good moment. And that was my only intention, nothing else. And I'm sorry that it didn't work. That's it. Thank you, Coretta. Thank you. Hi, Eva. Hello. How's the injury feel? I know you picked up a nickel at Queens. Yeah, it's been a little bit of just rest, rehab, get it all better, but ready to go this week for Wimbledon. And yeah, happy to have nothing serious. How do you find it playing in a very pro-British crowd? Do you find it okay to handle when the opponent's got the crowd behind them?
20:15I mean it's yeah obviously it's difficult the British back the British but that's how it is I mean it was only that one match where I played Emma so besides that I haven't played any other British players but same with the French in French and same with the Aussies in Australia so it's nothing new I think the Brits are also a little bit more proper and not maybe as rowdy as some of the other groups. So it's definitely not the worst crowd to be against you. Eva, can I ask what early memories you have of Wimbledon and how you regarded this place before you started playing here? I mean, the earliest memories are obviously watching on the TV all the finals, all the semifinals, all the big matches.
21:00Roger, Rafa, Novak the big three battling it out here many years I've seen Serena play I don't know how many finals here so those four were definitely the ones that I followed the most here at Wimbledon, Andy Murray as well love to watch him here so it's just one of those things that it was a dream even to just make it to see these courts so to be playing here is just something else entirely so just try to be grateful for that It's pretty cool to have Serena in the same draw that you're in now. I know. I never thought that would happen, that I could say I'm playing the same tournament at the same time as Serena Williams.
21:37So I hope she keeps going. I hope we see her for many more events this year. How would you describe your relationship to grass? How much have you played on it growing up? Yeah, played absolutely nothing on grass growing up. So the most interaction with grass I had was on the football field. But in the juniors, I liked it. I had good results in the juniors, had good results last year. So in general, it's a surface that suits me naturally. But I don't know. Every year is a new year. This year it was a little bit less matches because that's how it had to be. But Wimbledon's the main one, so hopefully I can do some good things here.
22:13Any tips from Novak on this particular? No, but I should. I mean, geez, his record here is pretty incredible. So I'm going to need to track him down. You mentioned, you know, having seen Serena here, and obviously she played a lot of doubles here with Venus and is playing here with Venus again. That was a really rare thing, and that's something that doesn't really happen now. Forget about them being sisters, but like two top players playing together. Is that something like you would ever consider, playing doubles with another top player these days at a big tournament? You don't really see it very often.
22:48I guess not. I think maybe a lot of the top singles players are mostly just playing singles, but I would consider it. I mean, I've definitely been playing more doubles recently. I feel like I've been getting better at it and I think it helps you with your singles game. For me, it's just a tricky thing at the slams with the full third sets and the long format now with the doubles. If you play, you know, singles and doubles that day, it can add up to quite a lot if you're looking to make a big run in singles. So that's the only thing to manage. But in general, I want to play more doubles, yeah. With the injury, can I just ask how much you've been able to practice on the grass over the last week or so?
23:27In the last week, I've been practicing back to a good amount of hours on the grass. So just like a kind of unlucky fall in Queens. But it happens, I guess, unfortunately. But yeah, managing it and the past week has been much better. so. Eva, can I ask you again about, just about Serena there, but we were, because she's playing Maya, who's obviously quite young, like herself, we were kind of having this debate of like, is it possible to be so young that you're maybe like not intimidated by her at all? I think that might be a possibility, especially if you're an American and like grew up with her as that legend, but what is your kind of relationship to her in terms of like now you do the same job as her and you're at the same tournament as her and everything but how do you think of her in your mind, even though you could running to her in the locker room or something like that.
24:20Yeah, I think now it's... Now it's a little different because you have to maybe prepare to play her in some of these tournaments. Obviously, I didn't draw her this time, but, you know, I hope she keeps playing, right? So it's a legitimate opponent that you could play, so maybe you have to try to take her off the pedestal a little bit and put it more as an equal, but I don't think any of us will ever be able to forget what she's done and what she's accomplished. So there's absolutely that. You just have to find a way. When you step on the court if she's your opponent to kind of equalize the mentality.
24:53But I don't know. I need to speak to Maya. I don't know how she's feeling about it. But she seems – I know Maya very well. She's very chill and level-headed. So I think she'll just be really grateful to share the court with her. Just as a follow to that, I guess obviously there's no one comparable to Serena, but you must have played people still who you really looked up to or that you watched growing up and what have you. How hard is that to kind of put that to one side and just be like, no, I need to get in sort of competition mode? Well, I think there's two types of people. Some people play really well when they're the underdog and they kind of feel loose and no pressure.
25:28And some people maybe like it when they are the favorite and they feel kind of confidence. I'm definitely the one that likes it more when I'm on the favorite side. And I feel like maybe I should win because it just gives me more confidence. So that's something that has been difficult for me. but I don't know if I'll ever get past that. I think I just, you get to the point where you're kind of expected to either be 50-50 or win a lot of the matches you play, so then it's not really an issue anymore. So hopefully you get better, and then you don't feel that against any particular player. Ava, you were asked about competing against Raducanu in a British crowd.
26:08You've played at Yala a couple times now, and Hamilton pretty well. What do you like about her game and also what's it been like to be in that kind of environment where she's getting the crowd she has been around the world? Yeah, she gets an incredible crowd and it's really cool to see for tennis. I think playing her in French and London was, yes, there were a good amount of Filipinos, but maybe not as much as you would get in somewhere in the States or in Australia, Dubai, places like that. so it wasn't too crazy for me there but I think her game's really good I think especially the grass I think she can do very well here at Wimbledon she's already been doing so well and yeah she takes the ball super early I think we do a lot of the the same things in in some ways so you know she's a dangerous player and great great person too so love Alex and the Filipinos Hi there, Raphael What do you think of playing on grass?
27:09How does it suit you? Yeah, I'm enjoying myself on the court It's like a little bit new for me because I only played here last year and I didn't prepare myself before because I enjoyed myself before French Open so it's like a bit new for me to come with a lot of matches on grass before so I think it can suit really well to my game the grass and my serve, my movement also so looking forward for Tuesday. Well you certainly showed in Paris what you can do on the big stage is that something you enjoy as a tennis player a big stage? Yeah of course I like because I have everything to win you know I have nothing to lose when I play against top players on big courts nobody expects myself to win so it's just only bonus for me I try to play my game try to enjoy and I think I did really well against the top players so another top player on Tuesday Can I ask what it is like being amongst other Belgian players at the moment?
28:09Because there are several of you. Is that enjoyable? Does that help you on the road? Yeah, of course. I think it helps everyone. Alex, Zizou and myself, of course. Because we are pushing each other to become better players. Because we want to do as well as the other. Like Zizou is doing final this week. We are very happy for him, but we want to do also great things after. So I think it's a great rivalry against each other. And we are enjoying to play in the big tournaments together. And we are going with each other very well. So it's only bonus for us. And you mentioned that draw that you have here.
28:49What did you think when it came out? I didn't look after Fiss. I just focused on Fiss because it's going to be a very tough match, of course. But I know he was a little bit injured before coming here. but I think he's one of the best players in the world because he proved he did great results and then he injured himself. But as I say, I will try to bring my A game, try to focus on myself and do the best match I can. And the final one from me, I was looking at your biography on the ATB website. It said you were into fashion and maybe wearing some slightly unusual clothes. You're smiling. Is that true?
29:28Yes. I like fashion, of course. I like to do pictures, I like to go shopping and buy some unusual stuff, you know. But yeah, it's a little bit of a passion for me outside of tennis and I like it, yeah. What's the last unusual thing you bought? I went in the centre of London two, three days ago and I bought a very nice jacket. So I can't wait to put it on. What colour is that? Leather jacket? What is it? Like this colour, the pants. Like green? I agree and it's like very nice. I'm gonna drop maybe a picture on Instagram soon. We'll see. We look forward to it. Fitz Wimbledon, thank you. Thanks. Well Nicola, welcome.
30:12This is a tournament you have some history with. How do you feel to be here in the draw inside the world's top 50? Well, it's amazing feelings. It's a dream come true for me. I also played three years ago, final here in junior so I have lots of memories in Wimbledon, for Wimbledon so yeah and it's also my favourite tournament since when I was a kid so yeah it's a dream come true now. It definitely seems as though grass suits you. Well yeah I think it's my favourite surface. I'm playing now a lot of matches on it and also very good results so yeah and enjoying a lot on the grass and we will see how far I will be in Wimbledon.
30:52Last time we talked you had just qualified for your first Grand Slam in Melbourne now you're a top 50 player final recently you were close to beat Savalenka a few days ago how has it been for you to settle in the tour quite fast actually? Yeah it's very fast last year I was around 600 I think coming back from I don't know 15k to Wimbledon so it's a great journey for me but yeah, it's really nice to hear it. Also, last month was for me, it was incredible. So yeah, I'm really happy that I had so great results. So yeah, it's great. What did you take from that match against Arena? Like the disappointment or the okay, next time I'm getting her?
31:38Well, it was very close. I was very sad because, you know, it was very close, especially in the second set, but still it was an incredible match for me. and also now I can beat, I think, everyone. But still, it's a very difficult rematch and also I need to improve a lot because it's about the quality and to be not just in the top 100 but to be maybe more longer in this level. What do you think makes you so tough to play on grass? Why is it your best to face and why do you think you're so tough to play for others? I don't know. I have I think very good game on the grass I like more men's games you know faster games so also go more to volleys play drop shots and you know a little bit every ball a little bit different you know so yeah and also grass is very different from the other surface with the color and everything so I don't know I just since when I was a kid I just dreamed to be and play on Wimbledon So, yeah, for me, it's a dream.
32:48It's a dream, yeah. When you were in that position of 6-2-4 love against Irina Sabalenka, what was in your mind at that time? Did you feel as though maybe you let it go a little or did you think that that was all about her? Well, I think I had, I think, two chances. Like, I think four-two and I could have, like, five-two. so maybe two, I don't know, bad choices. And yeah, and she also played better. So yeah, but it was very close. But I think I didn't play anything wrong when I had like 4-0. So yeah, but also she's number one. So it's a little bit tough. And also maybe I didn't have much, many confidence, you know, to beat her.
33:40so it's also an experience for me so yeah What kind of memories do you have from Wimbledon because it's your favourite tournament was it tied to some players you would always watch Roger or Petra Yeah my idol was Petra Kvitova so I think this is the biggest memory for Wimbledon and also Roger Federn and Nadal the biggest matches in the history so yeah and I also I watched a lot of matches on grass when I was a kid. So, yeah, this is my biggest memories on the grass and for Wimbledon. How do you tend to deal with expectations? Because now people are looking at your name in a draw here and like, oh, you never know, maybe she can do it on your side.
34:27How do you deal with the expectations you put on yourself and more attention around you? How do you deal with all that? Honestly, I don't have many expectations because now I'm really glad that I'm on the court, playing on the grass and in Wimbledon. So just focus on myself and nothing else. And also, especially here is everyone tough. So we will see how far we'll go. But yeah, we will see. But I will try my best. You mentioned to Karol about Petra Koviceva being your favorite player. And there have been a lot of Czech players in recent years that have done incredibly well here winning the title.
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35:08Is that something that inspires you a little bit to think, you know, maybe that could be you one day? Yes, of course. It's really great that so many Czech players have so many good results on the grass. It's funny because we don't have many courts in Czech. So, yeah. And also we have a lot of minors in Wimbledon. So, yeah, it's great to hear it. and I will try my best to be next to them. But it's also a long journey. So, yeah, we will see. Thank you. Thank you very much. Hi there, Tommy. If I could just ask a couple myself, please. One, two, three, four, five. Tommy, just seeing the form you come in here with and the way you've played on grass in recent years, how are you feeling about things?
35:59I mean, I feel pretty good. I love playing on grass. I feel like it's a service that I'm very comfortable on. And I feel like, you know, last year was kind of a weird year for me. I mean, I played the tournament not feeling amazing health-wise. So to come in this year and be pretty much pain-free in every part of my body, I mean, I'm looking at it in an excited way for sure. Yeah, I can understand that. Just coming into an event like this, and we were in this position in Paris as well, where one of the big two players of the current era is not here, Carlos Sourcrest, who you've had some incredible matches with over the years and pushed him close.
36:42Does that make any difference to how you feel coming into a draw? I know you've still got to beat the guys in front of you, but, I mean, you've shown you can beat most of them. I mean, we've been getting this question a lot. I'm sure a lot of players have. Yes, I mean, I feel like a lot of people, I mean, are very aware that he's not in the draw and maybe a little bit feel like they have a better chance. But for me, I'm really just focused on the first guy I'm playing. I don't even think, I think I'm in center's half, so I'd be more worried about center if I make it that far. But yeah, I mean, like I said, just kind of worried about the guy in front of me.
37:25And just quickly, surface-wise, we've seen you have results on all of the surfaces. Where does grass come in the list for you these days? In terms of? In terms of your preferred one that maybe you feel that you're actually the best at. I mean, I think probably grass is my best surface. I have the most fun playing on grass. I like to think of myself as an all-court player. I take pride in being an all-court player. I want to have results on every surface. But in terms of getting big wins, I think grass would be my best opportunity. Great. Thank you. Barbara's not a podcast fan, but I said after this...
38:12I am so sorry. She will change her mind. I am so sorry. What don't you like about podcasts? I mean, no, it's not that I just don't like to listen to it. I don't know. I'm just not listening to it. Are you a YouTube person? No. No, actually I'm not really a social media person at all. TV? Or anything. I mean I watch some series but I like to be with people real life in person. Right, yeah. That's probably very healthy, right? It's like utopia. That's what everyone's trying to get back to. Okay, yeah. Well, no offense taken. Sorry. Sorry for that. Well, thank you very much for speaking to us even though we're a podcast.
38:53I mean I'm very open to it it's just it's just most likely I'm not gonna listen to it I was I was gonna ask you something different up first but just on the subject of not wanting to know your draw yeah when when will you find out how long before your your match usually this the same day I play the match always not always but most of the time because sometimes so you know it just pops up from somewhere and or somebody asks you or somebody tells you or something from outside not from my team but from outside and and then you know but if If I can choose I like to know it as as late as I can And why is that?
39:42I mean, it's just something that I I mean, it's just something that I like I mean, I can have my head clear I don't really have to think when I'm playing or how they play and stuff It's just like very simple. I do my stuff. I go day by day. I live in the present. And then when the time's up for the match, I mean, my team tells me who I'm playing. We talk a little bit about the strategy. Sometimes we even watch a little bit. And then I go on and I just play. I play tennis. Yeah. Have you heard about Adrian Manorino? Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah, I heard. Would you ever do that? I heard. I mean, why not?
40:23I mean, I guess not doing the slams, but yeah, but I mean, why not? Like if it's working for him like that, why not? I mean, it's just, I mean, it's, it's tennis and yeah, I mean, there are more important things in your, in the life in general. So, I mean, it's tennis, you always play somebody and, and you always try to win whoever is on the other side. what I was going to ask you is just generally how you're feeling particularly in comparison to this time last year where you were coming in defending the title but so early in your comeback from injury this time you're coming in matches confidence I presume under your belt how different does it feel to a year ago that's a good question yeah I mean it's really tough to answer because what was back then was back then.
41:17I mean, things happened. I mean, this year also I missed most of the first part of the year because I was injured again. And I mean, I only came back in Rome. So it's been only a couple of tournaments. But I'm definitely happy that I was able to play those tournaments. And I got some wins and I think I did some good results since then. so I am definitely happy that I am in a match rhythm and hopefully I can show up with some good tennis. You've had a lot of setbacks in your career with injury and time on the sideline. I'm just wondering what do you do in that time? Well, I live life outside of tennis, definitely.
42:08I mean, I'm not only stuck in my bed, not wanting to get out. I definitely do other things when I'm outside of tennis. And yeah, I mean, obviously it's difficult. It's difficult with injuries and everything to stay positive. But I figured out my way how to stay positive in those times. And actually, all those injuries that I had in past two years with this mindset that I was able to get, the time went really, really fast, to be honest. Does being able to live some life outside of tennis, you know, because tennis is so demanding, it's 11 months a year, like, kind of, if you're on the tour the whole time, you don't get to live much life outside of it.
42:59Does being able to do that help you cope with all the injury setbacks that you've had? It's kind of like an upside, I guess. Well, I think that, I mean, since I was like 16, 18 years old, I only knew how to live like the life on tour because I didn't have, I mean, I was playing, I didn't have much time off the court to actually like explore myself outside. So everything was about tennis and basically with the back injury in beginning of 2025, I was forced to stop and I had to stop and I had to figure out things outside of tennis, finally. And I think I did and I found a huge perspective in those two worlds.
43:54And I think it definitely helped me on the court. What's your favorite thing to do that's not tennis?
44:04definitely spending time with my family spending time with my brother's kids spending time with my friends really literally spending time with people that I like a bit of a random question for you now do you know what a dormant volcano is well I think I know what is a volcano but a dormant one is one that has been active in the past and isn't active at the moment but might be active again okay yeah on the podcast we kind of talk about you as a bit of a dormant volcano in tennis because you've had these incredible moments of winning grand slams and then maybe you go a bit quiet and then you come back does that describe you as a tennis player a little bit do you feel a little bit like that like you can be dangerous when you when you come back even if you've not played for a while?
45:00I think it might. I think I mean definitely the results that I was having are like this just up and down up and down even I want to have them a bit more equal not that up and down but I accept that and I rather have them up and down then not getting the victories the big victories so yeah I take that as a compliment, thank you It is a compliment, do you think you can beat anyone still? I believe so I believe so Obviously not that long ago you were a top 10 player and obviously I'm sure big plans to get back there again I'm sure you know about the action that the top players are taking limiting their media time Are you aware of the action the top players are taking?
45:54I mean, I heard about that. Yeah, I mean, I heard about that. Do you have any views on it? I mean... On what they're trying to achieve, maybe, in terms of... It's about revenue share at the slams for players, I guess. I mean, I think a couple of years ago we had some kind of discussions about that, with some other discussions about tour and other stuff. and yeah I mean it's discussions with the tournaments with the tour with the players it's all been discussed it and I mean yeah it's just discussing and it's a long long way out of the discussions. Do you feel like stuff like that generally like must take up a lot of bandwidth right to to think about stuff like that and when you're trying to focus on your tennis and your fitness and your health like balancing those two balancing those things is that tough I mean balancing those things are definitely definitely tough and I've been already like part of that couple a couple years ago and it wasn't very positive for my for my mindset so to be honest a little bit just went away from that and and I just decided to focus a little bit more on on the tennis and the things I can I can have a better control off.
47:39Just final one, last year actually we were in one of these rooms talking with Marketa Ondrosheva and she just won the Berlin title and was full of confidence and obviously a lot's happened in her life in the last 12 months. I'm just wondering whether you've had a chance to speak to her since the news came out and your general view on what's happened Not really because I didn't really have the opportunity to talk to her. I think the last time I saw her was in Australia when I was already half injured and she was injured as well. She had some struggles so she pulled up from the tournament and I haven't seen her since then.
48:23Are you familiar with the facts of the case? I mean I only read a bit of it but I mean I never really talk with somebody in person that would kind of like describe the whole the whole process and the whole situation and what exactly happened because I only read the parts so yeah I mean I I know the parts yeah Is this sort of thing, maybe not specifically Marchetta's case, but does it kind of, does it shake the locker room a bit? Like, does it have a ripple effect? Because obviously it impacts you all, doesn't it? I mean, it obviously does. I mean, what happened to her is, I mean, just very, very tough and very difficult with the outcome of the case and stuff.
49:21I mean, it's tough for me to say something out loud, because as I said, I don't know much. But the only thing I know is that I cannot say to the PIN control that I'm not going to do the test.
49:41So that's pretty much what I know from my experience. I definitely had my other experiences with doping officers and everybody.
50:01Most of them have been going well, but not all of them. So I had some stuff that I had to deal with as well. And sometimes it's just difficult because you don't know everything. You don't know the full rules, you know the bits, the most important ones, but in some cases you don't actually know how to go through the process. so yeah I mean just the case it's just very unfortunate and very very tough yeah just finally then quickly so we don't leave you on a tough feeling yeah it's very sad have you figured out what your dream train journey is dream train journey? I remember you saying on a it was one of your twitter Twitter Q &As I'm guessing it's not in the UK our train system it's not the best I'd say it's not in Czech either
51:22I feel like I've put you on the spot now you do love trains though right? well I do I mean I love like any type of travel maybe your dream trip then your dream doesn't have to be on a train? Well I say I really really really want to go to Alaska one day one day nice I'm sure that will be possible one day hopefully yes WTA finals in Alaska they're looking for a new venue aren't they? Yeah but I don't know about November there. Barbora, thank you so much. Thank you very much. Really appreciate your time. Thanks.
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In this edition of Tennis Podcast Meets you’ll start by hearing David have a long chat with Caty McNally about taking a set off Iga Swiatek here last year, facing Serena Williams aged 17 and now being in a draw with her, and not wanting to be labelled as just a doubles player.
Next up, David speaks to Corentin Moutet and asks him about THAT interview at Queen's. He then forms part of a roundtable of journalists who speak to rising star Iva Jovic.
David then gets to know Raphael Collignon and Nikola Bartunkova, before a chat with Tommy Paul about his grass court game.
The show ends with Catherine and Matt catching up with 2024 Wimbledon champion Barbora Krejcikova. It’s a wide-ranging discussion covering not knowing her opponents much in advance, being a dormant volcano, distancing herself from player politics, and Marketa Vondrousova’s case.
