Cincinnati - Gauff, Fils hit form at perfect time

32:34But also credit to Goff for sticking with it. You know, there were some dark times in the last year or so where you thought, oh, goodness, we're not really seeing much improvement here at all, and yet she's sticking with it. That being said, it has also in the last few months really felt like she's been building to this. You know, she had the run in Miami, she had the run in Rome, She had the run at Wimbledon. But all of those runs were defined by very lengthy three-set matches and grinding and having to come through and leaning on a lot of excellent qualities that she has. But it was never, to use that word, secure.

33:16Well, in the last two tournaments, we talked about it, even in Canada. Okay, she lost eventually there to Rabakina, but she was killing people through that tournament in a way that was unusual, not dropping many games at all. And very similar here. She dropped a set to Samsonova. And once she got over that and got through that hurdle, she then didn't lose a set for the rest of the tournament. That's different. That has changed. And there's more confidence in her game. And I would also put her as the favourite. I'm wary a little bit because I know the US Open is a lot for Coco Gauff. And she has a lot of response.

33:51You know, there's a lot of pressure and attention on her there. There's that whole thing of she wants to play in the day and espn want her to play at night you know there's there's kind of that tension but what i will say is she's won the title before as you said catherine that came off the back of winning cincinnati and the last two years she's gone into that tournament battling her game you know in 2024 there was bad vibes between her and brad gilbert in the box that coaching partnership had had run its course it had been successful but she was about to split with him just after and it was bad vibes last year she was practicing serves in the rain in the build-up to the tournament last year she she came into the pre-tournament press conference saying this ground slam is a free hit i've decided i i i gaven mcmillan has become available i'm i'm basically going to sacrifice the u.s open to take this opportunity and invest long hit yeah so it's it's so different and so nice now that goff gets gets a home slam with her game in a in a really good place and she can come in with form it i mean i say she's the favorite to me it's very marginal because between her and honestly like quite a lot of players i definitely think she's on tech i definitely think pergula i would still put sabalenka in there but honestly anisimova win this maybe maybe we'll get to that i i think it's too soon for anisimova i think she's still working on her game i can't see her winning the u.s open this year but but we're in a place in women's tennis now where the top 10 in the race this year have all won a grand slam title or a masters 1000 like the parity there between them is amazing like there's so many good players who at one point or another this season have been in pretty much peak form and i think it's kind of goth's turn now to be in that form but there's just so many people you you can't write off like what if andreva suddenly clicks again and and finds her form and then And you've even got people outside of the top 10 in that race, like Osaka and Iala, who won a title not that long ago.

36:16And what if Rabakina's injury turns out not to be as bad as we're all kind of assuming it is? I honestly think this is the biggest pool of players going into a slam on both sides that I can remember that I could make a genuine case for to be able to win it. Certainly in recent years. I'm sure there have been more open slams in the past, but there are different types of open. You know, the women's is open because there's so many who've convinced us this season. The men's is open because of Sina not being there and the uncertainty of Alcaraz. Healthy players have convinced us this season. Right, but it's two fascinating draws.

37:00Yeah, it is. It's really, yeah, I'm really, really, Maybe it's because I'm here and I'm in New York and I'm sort of in the zone, but, like, I'm really, really pumped for this slam. Pergoula. I'll come to you in a moment, though. I just need to check in on Matt's level of confidence vibe about his big Pergoula prediction. I mean, overall, this is a win, right? Final run. That should be a confidence booster. Yeah, look, she beat Igor Shiontek, who's been the form player. She's playing really well. Should we talk about that match a little bit? Really well. Yeah, wild match. I mean, mostly from Igor Sviontek's side.

37:44I felt like Pagula's level was pretty good throughout. Sviontek was up and down. Who wants to describe, should we go to our resident commentator to describe the Igor Sviontek set point? I can't remember it. It was Pagula's set point that Sviontek... Sorry, yes, yeah, yeah. lost with I mean a put away at the net that I mean I thought as long as she made contact with the ball it would go over the net she was that much on top of the net and yet she did make contact with the ball and still managed to miss it, she hit it backwards it was absolutely wild She was hating the wind wasn't she? She was and she was really struggling with her servant I mean obviously there's the there's the Cancun and all the associated Cancun memes.

38:38But I think Shontek is a brilliant wind player. Yeah, I think it was the serve where it was really causing her problems, you know, and that shot is still, you know, such a work in progress. And she got broken a lot and Pagula's a great returner, the way she crowds the baseline and puts it deep and immediately puts you under pressure with her return. And I thought for a moment in that match, we were seeing a little bit of a regression for Swiątek in terms of the serve. She had a bit of a back and forth with her team in Polish. But actually from that point onwards, I thought she then recovered really well in this match and didn't let it become like a match from earlier on in the season.

39:21And she fought well. And between them, they played a lot of very good tennis. I thought the point of the tournament was probably won by Pagula in that third set as she was scrambling across the baseline and then came up with this amazing running forehand down the line and let out a big roar. And it was an incredible shot from Pagula to get the set back level. She'd been down a break. And I thought she played really well. And she managed to beat Anissa Mova as well again, as she always does, of course. so i i do think pagula is in in a good place heading in heading into the us open and honestly the the obstacle for pagula at the us open the last two years has been sabalenka beaten beating her in the final and the semi-final and and sabalenka is not that force right now so as i said i think goff is more convincing i think because she's been there and done it at majors and I do trust her to elevate more at majors in a way that she did when they played at Wimbledon.

40:25But I do think Pagula's got a heck of a shot. The Shuntek serve, David, is being described on the chat by a couple of people actually as a liability. Is the serve itself varying in its weakness or is it more dependent on the extent to which the opponent is able to exploit it or expose it. Like, what is going on with the Schuantek serve right now? I do think that is a factor. I really feel the wind was a factor. I actually think the serve generally is kind of trending in the right direction. I'm not too worried about the serve versus where I have been in the past. And I think she's defending the serve so incredibly well.

41:14She did just win Canada. She's had a good run at this tournament. I don't feel like that in the way that I have in the past. I feel there's a confidence about it to generally go on that. I was going to say that I felt like she was in this match, partly because of the wind, I'm sure, trying to take a little bit of pace off it. I felt like she was sacrificing speed for precision. It's just that with the wind, she was then losing a bit of that precision and it was going straight into the Pagula strike zone and she was particularly able to take advantage of it. But I do agree with David in terms of like the general trend, I think, has been good.

41:58I still don't like the motion. The motion just makes me wince a little bit. Sort of making it work, isn't she? Yes. And, you know, it may never really look super smooth, whereas even though Goff has clangors on her serve, it still produces this incredible result. I love it when David says clangers. And by the way, just, you know, you're asking about Pagula earlier on. Aren't we a bit worried about her physical fitness right now, given the way she was looking in the last couple of matches? Yeah, and then... But then she was okay. I'm not sure she was 100 % in her next ones. I mean, I just feel like she was teeing off in the last couple of matches, as I felt, which I really liked, by the way.

42:44I love it when she goes for it. And she was moving well. I'm just, I'm not, I don't see her playing this mixed doubles, the amount she's been playing recently. I would have thought that might have been worthwhile giving a mistake, personally. Mixed double specialist Taylor Fritz once again back, waiting by the phone. He can sort himself out. That would be quite funny, wouldn't it? It would be so funny. And unfortunately, Dana Schneider has been snapped up by also newly on the shelf Kasper Rude. So, yeah, okay. Yeah, I mean, Matt, do you share the same physical concerns about Pegula? It's definitely in the back of my mind, at least.

43:36I mean, you know, she pulled up in that match against Inisimova And her coach was kind of saying to her, you might want to think about retiring here. Yeah, they didn't tell her what to do, but it was, yeah, that was the vibe. The thing is then, you know, and she said afterwards it did start feeling a lot better. I was kind of expecting maybe Anissim over to hit her with the learner TN. You're lying to, as he did to Francis Tiafoe, you know, in a kind of jokey net exchange. But, you know, I'm sure there was something going on there for Pagula. And she definitely didn't seem close to her best in the final.

44:16My read was kind of exhaustion, I suppose, and just fatigue from a lot of matches. She also had the Castello one that got dragged deep into a third set. She just played a lot of tennis this week, and it is a quick turnaround. But it is there in the back of my mind because there was an issue. And I did think for a while in that Nismova match, she was really rolling in the serve and not going for it. It seemed to be a sort of hip or abdomen area. Yeah. And I know that sounds bad on paper from an Anisimova perspective. Like, okay, so you lost to an injured Jessica Bagula. But I, having watched that match, and obviously the good performances prior to that match, I thought this was real net positive from Anisimova.

45:01As you say, like the US Open might be coming a bit too soon if there were another tournament and then the US Open. maybe she'd be in the mix but I do generally feel pretty good about Anisimova and the trajectory we're on yeah definitely yeah you do too yeah look she had one poor game in the first set and Pagula broke and otherwise it was a very nip and tuck set and Anisimova was actually serving pretty well in it she hit an absolute purple patch in the second set and managed to win it and then went off the boil at the start of the third and lost 13 points in a row and went down a double break and gave herself so much work to do and gradually got it back and took it to a final set tie break.

45:49It was really thrilling, but I always trusted Pagula more in those big moments to be a bit more secure and a bit less stressed and not make the unforced error that Anisimovar ultimately kind of did in the very final stages of that tie break. But it's a heck of an improvement in a few months from where she was at Wimbledon, where she had absolutely no forehand to speak of. It's still the wing that is breaking down occasionally. I'm not sure it's as good as it was last year, for example, but it's getting there. I do think she can have a good win at the US Open and a little bit of a run and maybe knock someone out, but trying to string it together, when your game's not in the most secure place against this deep field, it feels a tall order.

46:42But good signs generally. Quick word, David, on Sara Balik. Obviously, she had the huge Sabalenka win, but boy, did she back it up with a deciding set tie-break win over Madison Keys while we were recording an emergency podcast inconveniently. she's a great watch she's fun she's really fun i mean she's she's so sort of small short uh and and she's left-handed and full of speed and she really throws everything she's got into the ball into her shots and she hurts people you know and i don't know i mean she's still she's very young you know so maybe this is really the start of something and um i just um i really enjoyed watching her she's she's one i will remember the tournament for i think um she's been in a lot of draws that i've seen but i've not taken a lot of notice in many of them and suddenly she sort of made everybody take notice and uh um so i hope it's and it's nice to see another lefty i enjoyed that david how good is sarah balick yeah she's she's great she's so small i mean it's difficult for me not to sort of notice that from my vantage point and just I can't quite get over it sometimes the doubles in Cincinnati was run by Linda Nozkova and Marie Bozkova yeah we can't go by without some Czech success on the tennis court they only dropped the only set they dropped was against Gabby Dabrowski and Barbora Krejcikova.

48:25Just a quick question to wrap on Cincinnati. What do we think of the trophies, the jugs, the vases, the sort of ornate pottery of it all? Do we like that it's a bit different? or it's it it's giving more sort of home depot than you know iconic great trophy for a week of great sport i do quite like the i like it when tournaments have distinctive trophies that are a bit different i just yeah but it's not my favorite one of those yeah exactly yeah i mean it is objectively quite ugly but i do like the principle of them having their own vibe i don't What do you think, David? I just didn't really notice them.

49:16They're just sort of a bit meh to me, just sort of blended into the background. I wasn't that interested. I mean, sometimes, you know, like a trophy just smacks you around the chops, you know, and you're like, whoa, look at that. This one I was just like, fine, crack on, lift it. Okay. On that note, that's it for part two. We'll be back in part three to talk about a few other bits and bobs pertaining to the hurtling towards us at speed US Open. Welcome back to part three of today's tennis podcast, the big US, well, we've had a few bits of big US Open news, but probably the biggest on the news front is the announcement of the remaining wildcards.

50:05And the headline, or maybe sort of a couple of headlines, is no singles wildcard for Serena Williams. Maybe not a surprise, given that she hadn't played any singles over the course of this hard court swing, but also no singles wild card for former champion Stan Wawrinka, who we know is retiring at the end of this year. Ben Rothenberg reports that Wawrinka did indeed request one and didn't receive one. Patrick Kipson and Darwin Blanche, the young American players, very young in Darwin Blanche's case, they received the final men's wildcard spots. And Brinka does seem to have then decided not to enter qualifying.

50:51So I know the optics of Guillermo Fis and receiving a wildcard and Stan Brinka, a former champion, not are tough. I mean, the whole thing stinks to me. But just specifically on that point, the USTA didn't have any say over the Guillermo Fis wildcard. They have a reciprocal arrangement with the FFT, which is allowed. These reciprocal arrangements happen. So one American in each of the men's and women's draws receives a wild card into the French Open and one French player receives a wild card into each main draw of the US Open. So the FFT decided to give their wild card on the men's side to Gail Monfils.

51:36So let's assume that had it been up to the USTA, they would also not have given one to Guillermo Fis. What do we think about the fact that they didn't give one to Stan Mournke, David? I think it was crap. I think it was terrible. What a terrible decision. The guy won the trophy 10 years ago. It's the 10th anniversary of it. And he's finishing this year. He's a guaranteed kind of good time. You know, crowds would have loved seeing him. Just a bad, bad decision. What would you say to the counter-argument of there are no guidelines for wild cards, it's entirely up to the tournament, and they have a policy of giving the wild cards to American players, and that is...

52:24Should your beef be with the game and not the player, i.e. the game being they're not being guidelines for wildcards and they're not being some sort of requirement or provision for past champions requesting wildcards? I don't know. I mean, I'm trying to work out whether one past champion deserves it more than another, et cetera, et cetera. To me, this was no lose. Yes, you might have denied one player a place in a draw, but we had this with Dan Evans and he's nowhere near the sort of achievement level. I mean, he did a lot for British tennis, but at Wimbledon, he's certainly not done as much in the draw, but I just feel like, and I don't think you're necessarily helping the players that you think you're helping with all these wildcards in your own country.

53:17Just let them get in the qualifying and scrap it out. And if they come through, then they're going to be flying and they're also going to have earned something. they're going to be tougher as a result of it and instead you could have had a now you know you get one of them there's there's going to be people who lose first round and you could have had a stand over rink a show on a grandstand or something like that and i just i just i do really feel like he deserves a chance to sort of sign off in the final grand slam of the year everybody else has given him one haven't they i don't know whether that don't know whether wimbledon did i can't remember now maybe they didn't um yeah he played a good match he paid didn't he play barrettini wimbledon gave him one yeah i actually thought wimbledon might not terrible decision and wimbledon did yeah oh yeah i mean i'm playing devil's advocate with my questions i think the whole thing absolutely reeks but i also think this is a i mean i still think even within the current context the usda like it's just a totaling goal for them not to give him one but um as you say like mutually beneficial but then they obviously have a different definition of what's beneficial and like yeah my my bigger issue is with wild cards and the totally sort of nebulous nature of them and what what they're for can does anybody have an actual definition of what a wild card should be for.

54:48Like, it's just open to everybody's interpretation. Like, you can... I mean, I don't feel like I need one in quite that way. I mean, I can understand the argument for it. To me, this is just common sense. But then saying he doesn't... Yeah, of course, there are total... Of course, David, but if you don't have a policy for something and it's down to people's feel, you can kind of justify everything. everything. No, look, I'm all right with that. I just think if you don't think he's a worthy one. Yeah. Of course, yeah. Right, but there will be test cases, won't there? I mean, I don't, I really, Sam Wawrinka is a past champion and that's a slam dunk, I think, a past champion.

55:36But like, Guernard Fies, I don't think Guernard Fies should have one. But some people would think he's a slam dunk. Yeah, listen, I'd agree with you. Most of them, I just don't think it matters either way. Fine, you want to give him one, give him one. But there's one or two that are absolute outliers that you just look stupid not giving one to him and he's one. The rest of them, I don't mind. I can have my opinion, you can have yours, but it doesn't matter really who gets them. This feels like it actually matters. But when it's 150 grand, it's a guaranteed 150 grand. Like, that matters to a lot of people.

56:18Yeah, I'm just not that bothered about it on the whole. I think wild cards serve a fairly useful purpose of getting people like Stan in, you know? Yeah, to me, he's the whole... Like, this is the whole reason why we have wild cards for this scenario. like Stan Wawrinka, former champion, trying to say goodbye. He's been competitive this year. He's a draw. People will want to see him. Like if you're going to have wild cards, this is like as obvious as it gets to give Stan Wawrinka one. I can't get my hand around it at all. Look, I agree. I agree. But that's obvious to us as punters that just want to watch good vibes-y tennis that that's a slam dunk.

57:03other people would have different definitions of what the point of wild cards are. Craig Tiley had a beer on court with Stan Wawrinka at the Australian Open this year. I know, I know. I thought he was a Stan Wawrinka guy. I do wonder if actually the Craig Tiley of it all has hurt Stan Wawrinka because he feels, well, I've already given him a wild card and a goodbye opportunity. I've already given him that. he doesn't need it from me well maybe he's not allowed to to over you know to overrule an existing system at the moment you know maybe he has to put in a new system and he hasn't got his feet under that's assuming there's a system that's assuming there's a system I would be shocked if there was a system and if there is I'd love it to be made public yeah it doesn't sound like it really I suppose Doesn't sound like it.

58:02Nonsense. I know what my next T-shirt is going to be, put it that way. In the mixed doubles, the draw has been done. It's bad news for the Serena and Alcaraz pairing who have been confirmed worst kept secret in tennis. They are playing mixed doubles together. They'll be playing their first round match not before 2pm on Tuesday. That is tomorrow. We're going to see Carlos Alcaraz and Serena Williams on a tennis court tomorrow. And Matt, you're going to be, will you be in the sky? Yes, I'll be about half an hour away from landing. So if they could just drag it out longer than half an hour, I might be able to get some sort of stream up, I suppose.

58:48You can get in trouble for watching it in the queue for passport control. Yes, exactly. Whether they can drag it out or not, I have my doubts because I don't think the draw has been very kind to them at all. They face a pair of qualifiers, which obviously in a normal draw, you might consider a good thing. But in a draw like this, which means they're going to guarantee to be playing two mixed double specialists that have come through qualifying. I think this is a bit of a disaster for Alcaraz and Serena. But we will see, folks. As we've hinted, Taylor Fritz is currently re-paired with Jessica Pagula.

59:29Watch this space for news on Taylor Fritz's mixed doubles future, though there's a potential for them to face Irani and Vavasori in the second round, which I would really, really enjoy. Iga Svantec has withdrawn, which I totally understand from her perspective, but is a real bummer for the tournament, I think obviously because she's a big name and because her and Rude were real vibe last year. Like they were one of the real high spots of the tournament last year. So that's a vibe, but not a problem for Kasper Rude because he has mopped up Diana Schneider who was partnerless after Daniel Medvedev decided to enter Winston-Salem.

1:00:10And the qualifying for the mixed doubles is taking place today. I think as we speak, it is happening. so yeah we'll know by the end of today who Carlos Alcaraz and Serena Williams will be playing tomorrow Is that on the telly or is that just sort of a local experience I wonder I think it might be on the internet don't know I'll I'll do some digging David I'll I'll switch on my telly and find out for you I feel like last didn't no there wasn't a qualifying last year so there's no we've got no prior data to know. Who can say? Qualifying is already underway. Top seed in the men's is Arthur Geyer.

1:00:54Moise Kwame is playing Nishesh Basavaredi. Carmen Wong is playing Elmer Moller. Grigor Dimitrov in qualifying against Lorenzo Justino. Bernard Tomek against Lloyd Harris. And Kei Nishikori, former finalist, He faces Sebastian Ofner in the first round of qualifying. And the women's, the top seed is Polina Kudomitova. She faces Linda Fruvitova. Christina Lutova, the Memphis champion. She's in the qualifying draw. She's seeded 16th. Also in qualies is Jung Chin Wen, the reigning Olympic champion. Bianca Andreescu, the former champion. Fran Jones, Robin Montgomery, Emerson Jones, the young Aussie, Harmony Tan, Harriet Dart and Joanna Garland, who we will all be following with great interest.

1:01:51As hinted, there is an ATP 250 taking place in Winston-Salem this week. No Carlos Alcaraz for them, but they have got Daniel Medvedev, Arthur Ferry, Thomas Mahatch, who when did he last win a tennis match? Stefano Sitsapas, Ignacio Boussey Bortik Van de Zanskulp and Luciano Darderi not a bad field for Winston-Salem and the WTA have a 500 event in Monterey this week with Ekaterina Alexandrova as the top seed, they also have Clara Towson, Donna Vekic, Maja Kvelinska Anastasia Potapova Elisa Mertens and Lily Tagger in terms of our plans Our US Open relived episode is up tomorrow for Friends of the Tennis Podcast talking about the 1996 draw.

1:02:41And I know that sounds niche, but folks, it is one of the most fun shows we've ever done. If you want to hear Matt Roberts doing a Michael Shtick impersonation, then I have just the show for you. The link to become a friend of the Tennis Podcast is in the show notes. I, as established, am already out here in New York having a great time, getting incredibly pumped for the US Open. Matt travels tomorrow. David travels Wednesday and our next show will be Wednesday night in New York after the culmination of the mixed doubles tournament, after the names have been put on the bloody roll of honour, David.

1:03:24and a reminder that on Thursday we will not only have our draw, post-draw tennis podcast as usual, but we will also be doing a live show on Thursday at the US Open on the Plaza Stage. You know where all the fountains are in front of the Arthur Ashe Stadium, the big sort of central focal point of the US Open. Well, during Fan Week, which is free entry for everybody, they have a big stage up there and we will be on it doing a live show that is free for anybody that wants to come and watch at 1pm on Thursday. Get there at 12 and you'll be able to see the doubleheader of Chicago, the Broadway cast of Chicago and the tennis podcast, which is pretty good entertainment, I would say, for a free ticket.

1:04:15So, yeah, please do come if you can. We would love to see some friendly faces in the crowd and, yeah, it's going to be good. Matt Roberts talking about a draw. What is not to like, folks? I'm very excited. I really am. I'm daunted by what's ahead of us, 22 podcasts in a row, plus a road trip to Newport in the middle of it all and a Grand Slam tournament. But, yeah, I don't know about you, but I'm extremely pumped. Definitely. Yeah. For the benefits of the tape and the fact that we are primarily an audio medium. Matt and David were nodding enthusiastically there. Folks, I would like to introduce you to Bug, our mascot for today's show.

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1:07:17Like, just incredible. From, for all his stages of life, that is absolute 10 out of 10 dog ownership. What a lucky boy he is to have had you. And for you to have had him. I do love a Border Terrier. Andy Murray's a Border Terrier guy. isn't he? Or he was until he switched allegiances to a springer spaniel, cocker spaniel, some kind of spaniel. Anyway, thank you, Landon Thomas, for making Bug today's mascot. I love him. I really do. Hello to our mascots, Bodie, Maisie and Roger. Hello to our top folks and executive producers, Greg, Chris and Jeff. The agenda says no shout outs needed. Matt rushing off.

1:08:08Keep it professional, Matt. I could shout out, you know, Fessar Palacios, Gonzalo Garcia, all our new players, Josh King. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Can I get a score prediction from you then, if we're not going to get shout outs? Oh, 3-1 Fulham. Yes, David. Let's go with that. Yeah, 3-1 Fulham. It's not what Neil was saying earlier. Let's put it that way. but I'm feeling good I'm going to be positive and I'll see you tomorrow Matt you will looking forward to it what a thing to say yeah I will see you tomorrow David I will see you Wednesday a reminder that that Friends of the Tennis Podcast episode Tennis Relived about the redraw and all of the calamitous and dramatic fallout that'll be up tomorrow for Friends of the Tennis Podcast we will be back on Wednesday with our post-mixed double show.

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