French Open Day 14 - Andreeva’s dream comes true

7 Jun 2026 · 1 h 5 min · 21 chapters

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In short

Recap of French Open women’s final day 14, centered on 19-year-old Mira Andreeva winning her first Grand Slam title at Roland Garros, plus discussion of other finals and tomorrow’s remaining matches.

Guests/backgrounds

The episode is hosted by David and Matt (co-hosts). Key guest referenced: Conchita Martinez (Andreeva’s coach) speaking at the press conference. Other players discussed include qualifier Michael Kovalinska, wheelchair champions Takedo Oda and Diede de Groot, and doubles/juniors winners.

Key claims

  • Andreeva said it “feels better than I even dreamed,” describing her mindset as “a work in progress” that clicked during the tournament.
  • The hosts argue her mental shift is the main driver: hyper-focus routines (e.g., concentrating on “the fuzz of the ball”), better handling of pressure, and improved composure after losing leads.
  • Match turning points: extreme wind; Kovalinska’s poor serving stats; Andreeva winning 10 straight games after trailing 3-2.

Notable examples

  • Final score: Andreeva def. Kovalinska 6-3, 6-2.
  • Kovalinska serving: 46% first-serve points won, 18% second-serve points won.
  • Other finals: Oda def. Alfie Hewitt; de Groot’s 6-1 6-0 win; wheelchair doubles Niels Vink; men’s doubles Grenoilles/Zabajos; junior winners including Elisa Oktiabrava.

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Chapters

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Matt's Press Conference Experience

0:45 to 1:40

Matt shares his amusing experience at Andreeva's press conference.

“And it was one of those things I could see happening in slow motion.”

Andreeva's Emotional Victory

1:40 to 3:00

Discussion on Andreeva's feelings after her Grand Slam win.

“was what she said in, I think, her first answer, actually, to you.”

The Journey to the Title

3:00 to 5:00

Exploration of Andreeva's career and preparation for the final.

“but she's been kind of around for three years.”

Mental Fortitude in Finals

5:00 to 7:00

Analyzing the mental challenges Andreeva faced during the tournament.

“Wells last year didn't she and can't quite remember it was but she had a great win over during a similar period as well.”

Tennis Techniques and Conditions

7:00 to 10:00

Discussion about the match conditions and their impact on play.

“I kind of loved watching the challenge of this match for both players.”

Andreeva vs. Kovalinska Match Analysis

10:00 to 12:00

Deep dive into the strategies and performance of both players during the final.

“while you were in Carrefour buying biscuits this morning, David.”

Andreeva's Athleticism and Future Potential

12:00 to 14:00

Discussion on Andreeva's physical attributes and prospects in tennis.

“but it is a tricky game and she's clever.”

Andreeva's Emotional Growth and Strategy

14:00 to 17:41

Discussion on Andreeva's mental approach, improvements, and the importance of managing emotions on court.

“I'm mainly just happy that she seems to have...”

Coaching Dynamics and Independence

17:41 to 22:52

Exploration of Andreeva's relationship with her coach and her journey to independent success.

“It kind of is for everyone all the time, isn't it?”

The Impact of Female Coaches in Tennis

22:52 to 24:21

Discussion on the significance of female coaches in tennis and the changing dynamics in coaching roles.

“Big moment for the dogs in player boxes and involved in trophy ceremonies movement.”
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Andreeva's Potential and Wimbledon Wildcard

24:21 to 28:00

Analysis of Andreeva's performance and her chances for a Wimbledon wildcard after reaching the French Open final.

“Yeah, I think it's too big to bring on tour.”

Wild Cards and Player Opportunities

28:00 to 33:08

Discussion on wildcards and their allocation for upcoming tournaments.

“I think you can argue forever about what wild cards should be for, but I think capitalising on this opportunity, on this moment, she's just got to a grandstand final, I think she deserves a wild card.”

Finals Recap and Player Performances

33:11 to 37:05

Recap of finals, including wheelchair singles and doubles titles.

“He won six games in a row from three love down in the second set to defend his men's wheelchair singles title in a repeat of last year's final against Alfie Hewitt.”

Junior Championships and Future Prospects

37:05 to 41:39

Overview of junior championships and standout players to watch.

“The top seed, Niels Vink, won the quad wheelchair doubles title, 6-3, 6-4, over the unseeded Ahmed Kaplan from Turkey.”

Upcoming Matches and Finals Preview

41:39 to 42:01

Preview of the upcoming men's singles and women's doubles finals.

“She probably didn't play her best tennis either.”

Analyzing Zverev vs. Caballi in the Men's Singles Final

42:20 to 45:51

In-depth discussion about the players' performances and potential outcomes in the final.

“Are the top seeds, Siniarka and Townsend, Matt, going to win and put the cherry on top of your stat?”

Evaluating Pressure and Expectations in the Final

45:52 to 50:09

Exploration of the psychological factors and scenarios affecting the final match.

“So you're piecing this together and you think, well, Kabaly's got the legs.”

Reflection on Zverev's Past and Future Prospects

50:10 to 56:00

Discussion on Zverev's history, confidence, and the impact of past controversies.

“level, he's got, he's like road runner with his legs the way he gets about the court, he's a blur of speed He gets to crazy balls.”

Discussion on Zverev and Domestic Violence Allegations

56:00 to 58:04

Exploration of Zverev's potential win and the discomfort from his past allegations.

“That's a really interesting tactical element to me.”

Childhood Pets and Fish Anecdotes

58:04 to 1:00:44

Hosts share nostalgic stories about childhood pets, particularly fish.

“The time has come for Matt to share whatever, whatever childhood pet anecdote you might have for us, Matt.”

Listener Shoutouts and Community Engagement

1:00:44 to 1:04:49

Hosts engage with listeners through shoutouts and community interactions.

“Hello to Bodie, Maisie and Roger and hello to our top folks and executive producers Greg, Chris and Geoff.”
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Transcript

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0:10Hello and welcome to the tennis podcast on women's finals day at the 2026 French Open, a day that has seen 19 year old Mira Andrava crowned a Grand Slam champion for the first time. I'm she beat qualifier, Michael Wolinska, 6-3, 6-2. And if Matt sounds at all down about this turn of events, it's because he's just had the microphone rudely yanked out of his hand by Mira Andreeva in a Conchita Martinez press conference. Yeah, it's OK. It went better than that sounds, I would say. I still managed to get my question in. And it was one of those things I could see happening in slow motion. I had the microphone in my hand, ready for the last question in English.

0:56And Drava giddily entered the room and I thought, oh no, I'm going to be involved in some kind of exchange, some sort of content potentially. Didn't want any of that. But it was OK. She asked her a question. I got the chance to ask mine. And everyone's happy. I'm not quite as happy as Mira and Drava, though. I so recognised the look on Matt's face, which was, I'm about to become content against my will. Yes. He's given it to me a lot. You're going to be on tennis TV, bro. Yeah, that was the energy. But no, it was a lovely moment. And Matt was a lovely cameo in it. I certainly got a lot of fun from it.

1:36In Mira Andreva's press conference, David, she said a lot of lovely things. But one of the things that stuck with me was what she said in, I think, her first answer, actually, to you. Certainly the answer to the first question from the floor, there was an opening one from the moderator, but she said, this feels better than I even dreamed. And I thought, this is a fourth French Open, so, OK, that's not a long time coming, but it's not come out of the blue. She's had time to build up to this and figure out what it means and how hard it is and put herself in a place to really process and enjoy this.

2:12But it's not been so long a quest or struggle that all she can fear is relief. We see that a lot in Grand Slam champions, don't we, where the overwhelming feeling is just one of relief and exhaustion. It felt like the absolute sweet spot of pure joy, quite frankly, and it was lovely to see. Yeah, I can imagine if Zverev were to win tomorrow, his would mostly be relief. I think there would be obviously joy, but mostly relief. We had a question from Friends of the Tennis Podcast during a live show not that long ago when we were asked about Emma Raducanu winning as early as she did. and where the sweet spot is.

2:49You know, would you rather win at the start of your career or the end of your career? And actually, I think Andreeva's, as it's turned out, is probably perfect because she's still only 19, but she's been kind of around for three years. She's got used to the tour. She's got used to the life. And it's not just this bolt from the blue that will just overwhelm her life. She seemed ready for this in just about every way, which actually is quite a pretty breakneck turnaround considering where she was only a couple of months ago. I think she lost at four successive tournaments she lost in a deciding set and she'd been kind of up in all the sets, you know, and it seemed like a real problem for her.

3:34It almost seemed like her wind or her sun, you know. And then this tournament, that hasn't happened at all. And that's great credit to her. I mean, look, she hasn't played maybe some of the players that might have forced her into those tense moments, but mainly because she's just sort of handled it. I mean, it was Lois Brasson a year ago, and that wasn't a household name or a top 10 player. She's just dealt with everything. I mean, there was a particular moment today in the second set when she was serving for the title and she lost the serve. and, you know, you wondered, didn't you? But after she sat down, she ran out.

4:20And I remember thinking, OK, this is a bit like when Jakub Minsk ran out of the changing room yesterday. You feel like the body language is telling you, I mean, business. And I just think something's clicked. Something has clicked these last month or so. I actually think the fact that she's won these seven matches, matches she's won this Grand Slam being the favorite in every single one of those matches is a bigger mental triumph for her than had she been the underdog in in one or two of the the later matches she's even when she's been having these mental struggles she's performed really well in the matches against Sabalenka and Shontek you know she beat Sabalenka to to win Indian Wells last year didn't she and can't quite remember it was but she had a great win over during a similar period as well.

5:08I've always backed her to not necessarily win all of those, but really show up and lock in. But it's in matches like today where I've had my questions. And look, Conchita has too. And Mirandreva has had them about herself. Conchita Martinez, before Mirandreva entered the press conference room and changed the tone of the whole thing before Matt said, let's talk about Linz for a moment. Incredible. yeah one of the the things she said it was the question i asked her but it was your question david david gave me a question to ask because he heroically came out here and and set up all our our recording equipment for us she said she said look something had to change in mira andrea before she was ready to do this and i said did that change happen before the tournament then like you're kind of coming into this tournament thinking right she's ready now the thing that I'd been waiting for has clicked into gear and she said no it happened during the tournament she called it a work in progress throughout the fortnight wow isn't that fascinating but it has kind of felt like that she she's felt like a really convincing player throughout this tournament and just the odd occasion she's had a a little bit of adversity she's just seemed locked in and that answer she gave a couple of days ago about seeing the the hairs on the on the ball the fuzz of the ball you know the way she locks in on that as a way to concentrate I mean that's you know it's it's something I think a lot of people do in sport and psych sports psychologists would tell you to do stuff like that wouldn't they and it's it's really seems to have worked and there was a lot that could have thrown her off from that hyper-focus, locked-in mode today.

6:59Obviously, a very awkward opponent, but the wind. I mean, my God, the wind today. I kind of loved watching the challenge of this match for both players. It didn't develop into the match that it sort of had the promise of being in the early stages. but in those early stages, watching how extreme the wind was, I thought it could be a disaster for both of them, quite frankly. The fact that Andreva managed to produce tennis of any quality, and actually incredible quality, I think is masterful, quite frankly. I was nervous watching the warm-up. The ball was moving sideways. It was moving so much. And both players were really pushing the ball, but also struggling for their timing.

7:47And then the first point of the match was a double fault from Kvalinska. And I was clenched, you know. I thought, oh, my goodness, is this going to be one of those really tough-to-watch Grandstand finals where both players are nervous and can't play their best. And actually, the opening stages were the most compelling of the match because that was the moment where I think Andreeva was tight. You know, like she was suddenly faced with a ball she hadn't experienced all week, looped up, sliced, quite a lot of drop shots in those early stages, no pace on it at all. And when you're nervous, it's incredibly difficult to play an opponent like that.

8:33you end up not swinging through the ball at full speed, not putting your whole body into it, just arming the ball, and you get caught in the rallies that you don't want to be caught in. And I felt like in those opening stages, it was going about as well as Kovalinska could possibly have hoped for, because it was even. She wasn't serving well. Her serve was a disaster, really, but neither was Andreeva. So that meant that there was a kind of even footing, and it was actually Kowalinska who held serve first to go up 3-2. And at that point, it's weird to say it now, that it then became such a dominant win for Andreeva.

9:12But at that point, I really thought there was jeopardy in this match and I really thought it could be tight. But what Andreeva then did for the, I think she won 10 games in a row from that point, she suddenly opened her shoulders and played with much more freedom, started hitting the ball down the line. I think exploited how tired Kowalinska was after this run and played like a dream, really, for ten games or so in those tricky conditions when the wind was still up. She managed everything. She managed the crowd. You know, it was goosebumps when I went out to Chattere and saw all the Polish flags just appearing in the crowd.

9:54It really overwhelmed you. You thought, wow, they're dotted around everywhere. Matt and I were stopped by a Polish van while you were in Carrefour buying biscuits this morning, David. Matt and I were waiting on the street outside and a Polish fan was just asking people, does anyone have a ticket for Chaturé today that they want to sell? Wow. So Andreeva had so much to deal with, is basically what I'm saying, and did it wonderfully, as she has done all tournament. Yeah, I mean, look, to break it down to the real rudimentals for Linska, I do, you know, physically she looked tired today. I do think you feel more tired when the scoreboard's not going your way.

10:36You see Jakub Mensik yesterday, but it was the serve, wasn't it? She held serve once today. 46 % win percentage on her first serve, 18 % on the second serve. Like, you just don't win tennis matches with those stats. And as Matt said, it was kind of okay in the opening stages because Andreeva was struggling so much as well. But as soon as Andreeva ironed that out, she had to do the same. And she was just unable to today. The serve was totally exposed. Yeah, to get to 3-2 up, the noise that greeted that moment for Linska was absolutely astonishing. I mean, it went right, goosebump stuff, you know.

11:19And it would have been very easy, I think, for Andreeva, who wasn't really hitting a stride then. I felt she was reacting to her, for Linska's game, you know, reacting to the variety, trying to counter the drop shots and that sort of thing. And it was really only when she got a bit more comfortable and started to just impose her superior power and shot making. I mean, look, there's a reason one of these players is eight in the world and the other one was 114. and look, Valinska's going to be way higher than that and I think she's got a game that can actually cause people problems in the future too.

11:59I don't necessarily think she's going to be doing this every year but it is a tricky game and she's clever. I actually think she sort of lost her way a little bit. I think she needed to bring the drop shots back and the slice back. She sort of went into a little bit too much of a mode of the loopy. shots and andreva adjusted to them um but yeah i mean her the the conviction behind her ground strokes ultimately and and the you know she's got this big serve you don't think oh mira andreva big server but she's one of the biggest i mean she might not be rebacking her but she's not actually that far off um and and as time goes on i think she's going to be that the potential is there for her to become more dangerous than she is right now.

12:46And what an athlete as well you know I always think the wind shows up who the best athletes are. No she's not she doesn't have those trademark tiny ballerina steps that Svantec has I mean not far off and she's not I mean nobody's the athlete that Coco Gough is but I feel like she's kind of she's got the blend of everybody's athleticism she seems so it's like she has springs in her shoes it always looks like to me she's so light on her feet and she's a she's a tall player like seeing her burst into the press conference room and sit behind matt i was like oh my goodness she's she's big and she's strong and suddenly you're like wow i i see where all that power on the on the serve comes from and it's i don't know It's a bit deceptive, maybe because of how young she is in the face.

13:39She's actually got this incredibly strong, mature frame, I think. Her athleticism reminds me a bit of Steffi Graf, although I'm not sure I actually have any of my own memories of Steffi Graf. I think maybe that's from YouTube. But that kind of springiness on the surface reminds me a bit of that. I do love watching her. I really do. She's got so much in the toolkit. Yeah, I love watching her too. I'm mainly just happy that she seems to have... Maybe it's only short term, but it feels like she's found a bit of a solution to the tailspinning and the getting upset on court. I'm not saying that won't happen in the future, but I do feel like she's figured something out.

14:26I mean, even the fact that she said in the press comments, I've started trying to impersonate Roger Federer, not in terms of his strokes but in terms of his demeanour because I don't want to look like this on court, these shows of petulance, really. It sounded to me like somebody that has either chosen to or been told or asked to watch herself back when she's having a meltdown. I've heard some friends who are parents say that sometimes if their young child is having a total meltdown, they'll film them and you know at a at a calmer moment in the future they'll play it back to them just as just so you know this is what that looks like up to you what you want to do into content against their will i can relate up to you what you want to do with that information but just you know just so you know that's what it sounded like it happened to me and that is you know we all know what it's like when you suddenly see yourself or hear yourself do anything right like I remember in tennis lessons at school which were utter shite I can't believe my school even bothered with tennis lessons we didn't even have a school field we had to get a bus to Reading University and anyway I remember one day the awful sports teacher got the camera out and filmed us all serving and I was nobody in my class could could play tennis this was not it was not an athletic school folks no um and i thought well this is going to be great for me i'm gonna i'm gonna shine here and the horror of watching it back i i can feel it in my bones now it was awful anyway all of which is to say i i totally understand why that sort of thing can have a really big impact on someone yeah yeah and look i think the other important thing that Martinez said in the press conference is that there's probably still going to be ups and downs you know like I don't think it's necessarily gone from her as a player forever that she's going to be really calm on court and going to respond to all pressure that she ever faces in a really controlled way like she is still only 19 and And kind of like we talked about with San Belenco the other day, sometimes these things are entrenched in you and it's not necessarily about getting rid of it completely, it's about dealing with it and handling it.

17:06And she seems better equipped to do that than ever and I'm sure will be even better from this experience. But if we're seeing those sorts of tensions between her and the box or losing leads or not responding well to pressure in the future, hopefully this tournament will serve as a reminder for her and for everyone that, OK, that might happen, but she can overcome it and still be the great player and champion that she is. So I thought that was an important point that Martina's made. It's still a work in progress. It kind of is for everyone all the time, isn't it? And she was very keen to gently tamp down any talk of world number one or now suddenly becoming a dominant force.

18:00You know, she is number one in the race now, Mirandreva, by more than 400 points over Irina Sabalenka. She's played a lot more tournaments, I think, and I do wonder if that will be something she'll look at longer term. Like this clay court season, and they've obviously been the right scheduling decisions, but she has played a lot, I feel like, this Claypool season. So much. You know, she's obviously been, it's been a project, and she's been working on it and wanting to keep momentum going and build on that, but that is not a sustainable, long-term approach to schedule. Agreed, yeah, and I have felt in past seasons like she has burnt out a little bit.

18:40Last year, big time. Especially last year. And yeah, just to go on about Linz again, The reason I wanted to ask Martinez about that was because Martinez wasn't there in Linz, and Andreva won the title. And I remember thinking at the time that that felt relevant. Coaches are always saying, Darren Cahill I've heard say this perhaps the best, my job is to set you free so you don't need me. It's like parenting, isn't it? Yeah. And it just felt like such a moment for Andreva having had a real... You know, there'd been a sort of blow-up, really, between her and Martinez during the Sunshine Double. It felt like a real moment for her to go out and win a tournament on her own when Martinez was on holiday.

19:31And she said today in the press conference, I was on the phone, obviously, I was talking to her, I was preparing matches for her, but on court, she had no-one to blame. And... That's good. She was like, yeah, that was an important tournament. And then, OK, we still saw little moments through the rest of the clay court swing, Madrid in particular, where she was seen saying, I'm not a champion, I'm not a champion, I'm going to choke. You know, that was in Madrid, which was only five or six weeks ago. Incredible how quickly we've come from here. But immediately the clay court season was different to the rest of her season.

20:06She was winning more matches. Other than that match I've talked about in Madrid, she was generally calmer and it's all come together and and worked out brilliantly for her at Roland Garros but it's amazing how how it's happened because I was teetering on whether to put her in the mix coming into this tournament and the the doubt was not the tennis the doubt was the mindset on court and if you told me that her mindset on court would be brilliant as it has been this tournament I wouldn't have doubted putting her in the mix because the tennis the tennis is so good and she's just had a wonderful chance to express that this tournament which has been great to watch uh have i asked you already what she asked martinez she asked martinez what's what's your favorite thing about coaching mira andreva she did say her name in the third person didn't she did yeah yeah and i think uno featured in the answer yes conchita said uh we get to play Uno and I always win.

21:10And Mira was quite disappointed by that. She was like, is that it? Is that all you've got? It was a very tired parent, wasn't it? Conchita's answer. She was like, it was like, I know you think this is funny, but I want to get out of here and drink my champagne. Yeah. Someone's going to ask me about lint cinnamon. Conchita Martinez has now coached two different women, two major titles we think she's the first head female coach to ever do that um I feel pretty confident so I feel like we would know about it if if uh if there were any others um and I hope it'll you know provide an example and a pathway for there to be more in the future and I I really don't think it's an accident that it has been a female coach and a female psychologist as well i know female psychologists that has worked with male players very famously andy murray in the past um but you know a a team with a lot of female energy in it that has been shepherding a young tennis player and a young woman through to from girlhood to adulthood like i i really don't think that's that's an accident and it's so wonderful to see that bearing fruit yeah it was Pam Shriver who's who who reminded me today that she had coached two women to Grand Slam champions the other being Garbini Magarutha I I had forgotten that to be honest um which says a lot about her I think and how how smart she is and how well she communicates with these players I I think that that is the absolute key but and I I don't think it's any coincidence that a young woman is able to to take a lot from from an older woman who's had experience and who can understand things that a man just isn't going to be able to understand in quite the same way that's not to say there aren't brilliant male coaches around there are and they've coached many women to many titles but it feels like there's so much left on the table right now other female coaches who could be making a big difference and uh and i do i do i do think that these sort of occurrences will yield further ones you know if you can see it you can be it the old billy jean king statement which seems so so right and it normalizes it as much as anything doesn't it doesn't feel like some you know outlandish thing to do to hire a female coach i mean obviously It's always been more normal in the women's game, but still shockingly unusual, I think, generally speaking.

23:59So big moment for that movement. Big moment for the dogs in player boxes and involved in trophy ceremonies movement. I'd say a seismic moment, actually. It's a movement now, is it? Yeah, I mean, it might no longer need to be a movement because today has done so much for the cause, David. it. Everybody's going with the Luna trophy shot, as will we be on our Instagram. Gotcha. Yeah, not Mira's dog. She has a Bernadoodle that Rafi. Yeah, I think it's too big to bring on tour. I don't know if she considered that when she was choosing breeds. I love a Bernadoodle so much, but it's not a practical dog in terms of portability.

24:43But Luna, Conchita's dog, very portable and very amenable to a trophy ceremony. There's good lunar stuff out there, folks. Described as an 11-year-old grandma by Andreeva when asked about her in press. So that was another nice moment. You two were in the Felinska press conference and I wasn't. Was it an exhaling Felinska? Was she kind of... Did the floodgates open a little bit from her today? Not really. I think she takes it all in a stride. I think she's really cool. I mean, I think, yes, there was a bit of, yeah, it's over now. There was a bit of that, yeah. But she came out with a couple of cracking lines, I thought.

25:34Right early on, you know, she's been asked about the difference between her tennis this two weeks than the rest of her career, given she's 114 in the world, and she tried to qualify for this event three times and failed. And here she's in the bloody final after qualifying. She says, yeah, I don't really think I've played my best tennis these two weeks. Okay, how good could you be? It was very funny. You know, she also talked about, she was asked about playing on grass and she said she sort of really made me a believer that this is somebody who can you know she said I was terrible on grass last year but usually I'm quite good on it and I kind of think it works with my spins and my movement and I can see that all the things that I can do she was asked about whether she had given any thought to getting a wild card at Wimbledon how she would she you know does she think she's going to get one she says I you know I don't know but it would be the news of the century if I did she said um but uh and she says but look if I don't get one I'll treat it as a challenge and go in the qualifying and and I'll be excited to try it yes and she said she's not going to play any warm-up events on grass like she said I need a holiday so she said I thought I needed a holiday before Roland Garros anyway probably a good job she didn't Ibiza here she comes.

27:05Right, yeah. With her 1.4 million euros. She is 21 in the live rankings. That'll probably slip a bit before Wimbledon, but you know, she will be in a seeded position come Wimbledon. Do you think she will get a Wimbledon wildcard? Do you think she should get a Wimbledon wildcard? I read something on social media, and I realised that's a very dangerous thing to do, that quoted Tim Henman, who's on the Wimbledon committee on TNT saying he doesn't see why not or something of that ilk um I may have slightly misquoted him there but that was that was the gist it sounds like Tim yeah um but a bit vague I think she should be getting a wild card absolutely I think she somebody who has just got themselves to 21 in the world and reached the French Open final should be given access to play in the Wimbledon draw.

28:02Yes. I agree. I think you can argue forever about what wild cards should be for, but I think capitalising on this opportunity, on this moment, she's just got to a grandstand final, I think she deserves a wild card. Do you think she will be? Do you get one? I'm going to say yes. David's got his own movement. I think so as well I know people will point to Boisson but I do think the final is a big difference maker It is It's very different I do too I think it's a different kettle of fish I do think there's going to be a Serena wildcard I think there's going to be a Venus wildcard and we've got Scott Lloyd having said wildcards go to British players I don't think it's a slam dunk I think just about she probably will that I reckon there will be some dissenting voices around that wildcard committee table.

29:05Yeah, maybe. I mean, personally, if it were between her or Venus for a singles wildcard, I'd be giving it to her now because Venus has had a lot of them in the last few years and absolutely no trouble with that at all. And I'd also probably, I'm not sure, I mean, if there's eight wildcards, is there something like that? I mean, you know, I think there's several for Brits. How many do you need to give? Maybe not all of them. It's almost like we need to have an existential debate about what on earth wildcards are for. Stick them in the qualities. Make them earn their place, I say. She did say that she's been so stressed the last three weeks she's found, like, eating hard.

29:50Yeah, she couldn't eat a pizza. And she said, now I'm looking forward to, like, the joy of eating being back. And I thought that was the moment of real insight in terms of just how different this has been and this release now of the tournament finally being over. God, you enjoy Ibiza, Maya. Or wherever you're going, you enjoy it. And it is going to be fascinating now that she is ranked in the top 30 and she's going to be coming up against, you know, of players that we know a lot more. And I think for a while that game style can be effective. You know, it's such a breath of fresh air for us to watch because we don't see it a lot.

30:35And I think that's also partly why it can be effective because people are not used to it. I do think over time that just the power game will overtake a game like that. I don't think she's quite good enough at what she does to sustain a really top level in this power era. Especially on a hard court. Especially on surfaces other than clay, yeah. I think grass, I think the natural surfaces, you may get something out of it. Yeah, I certainly think the slice. You're going to make me say Laura Siegmund again, aren't you? But it is similar. Yeah? Yes. Disruptor, but... Tatiana Maria? vulnerable to being overpowered a lot and the thing about Santiana Maria is when we watched her win Queen's last year and beat all these power hitters you think wow that's an amazing game and then you look at her Wimbledon record and she had that one run but otherwise she played Wimbledon a lot and not been that effective you have to be so precise with a game like that in this era to actually make it work and it's just not easy.

31:50I always remember Fabrice Santoro saying that, you know, that people kind of almost laugh at my game and the sort of unusual style of it. He says, but I have to play really well to get results with it. You know, it's not just because it annoys the opponent. If I don't play it well, they kill me. Incidentally, Laura Siegman, potential first match for Amanda Renesimova on a wet grass court. So, K-Mac, you're off to Chicago. Can't wait. Okay, folks. Just to say before we break for part one, if you are new to the pod, and there are a few new listeners around this parish, welcome. We are daily throughout all four of the Grand Sound tournaments every year and at least weekly the rest of the time as well, often more.

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33:23He won six games in a row from three love down in the second set to defend his men's wheelchair singles title in a repeat of last year's final against Alfie Hewitt. poor Alfie Hewitt, whose whole life is dedicated, it seems, to trying to beat this phenom, Takedo Oda. And he's not getting further away, I don't think. It's not an uncompetitive rivalry. It's not an unrivalry. He's just not winning them, David. Yeah, and the thing is, Takedo Oda is not only getting better, he's also becoming sort of more clutch now, because he's playing so many of these finals he's getting used to winning them and it must be it must be mentally really challenging for for Alfie to to to believe it'll be different next time I mean I think in his his interview on the court afterwards he was really disappointed with his performance he said and bear in mind he hit 28 winners to 17 unforced errors in this match this was not an objectively poor performance from Alfie Hewitt he said I'm gutted with the performance it's not one I'm proud of.

34:32Yeah. In a way, if he believes that, then maybe that will help him to keep going again because you've got to believe that there's a turning point out there, haven't you? And yeah, fortunately, there's another grand slam around the corner. Yes. For him anyway. But I mean, Oda is what a superstar and what a player. Yeah. I'll say. Speaking of which, Dede Deghut is back, folks, not only is she back she has rang the death toll for Muscatair of the Day quite frankly I think she's killed it off not to take Muscatair of the Day away from Ksenia Shastor, who's won it the last two days in a row but Dider Rukh beat her today, 6-1 6-love she won 52 points to Shastos 19.

35:32Now, look, Shastos day will come. This was a breakthrough tournament for her. She'd never reached a Grand Slam single semifinal before. She's 20 years old. She has all the time in the world ahead of her to win future Musketeers of the day. And Grand Slam champions. But my God, she was shell-shocked today. Utterly shell-shocked. I mean, she shanked a second serve on match points. she was like, what the hell is this? Like, this is a player from another planet to anybody else I've played. And she's played good players. I think she took out the second seed in the semifinals. So pretty strong evidence that Dieder de Root is back.

36:13And I know a lot of you probably hear, you know, Dieder de Root winning a Grand Slam title, big deal. She's done that a million times before. This is a big deal. It was really in doubt about whether she would get back. She had very major hip surgery. just less than two years ago after the Paris Olympics. And she hasn't even reached a Grand Samp final since then, or even a semi-final, I don't think. Just a couple of quarterfinals. So this is absolutely massive for De Roo. And the complexion of women's wheelchair tennis has changed a lot since she was last at the top. There are youngsters like Chastot coming a lot.

36:51There's a group of Chinese young players as well. So whether she can be as dominant as she was before is going to be interesting to see, I think. But it's wonderful to see her back. It's a very uplifting story, if not for the beloved feature of Miskatera the day. It had a good run, folks. The top seed, Niels Vink, won the quad wheelchair doubles title, 6-3, 6-4, over the unseeded Ahmed Kaplan from Turkey. Vink's third French Open title, but is first for three years. So a big one there for Vink. We had the men's doubles title on Chatrier today. Started at 11 a.m. before the women's singles final.

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37:37We watched some of this on the TV this morning. And it was the top seeds, Marcel Grenoilles and Horatio Zabajos, that defended their title with a 6-4, 6-2 win over the second seeds, Henry Patton and Harry Heliovaro, Zabajos said on the court after the match. I'm 41 years old and this is one of the best moments of my career, so it's never too late for anybody. Oh, my kind of guy. Yeah, they've now won three of the last five slam titles, these two, and I think they lost their first three finals together, so they are good adverts for sticking at it and being late bloomers and always keeping believing.

38:22And they were dominant in today's final. It wasn't close. No, and against a very good pair, Patton and Helio Vara, who go to number one after this. And then, well, Stan, the newsletter, there's a newsletter plug about doubles tonight and top seeds winning titles because we've had that in the mix. We've had that in the men's. We could get it in the women's tomorrow. So I've wondered how often that happens. And the answer is in the newsletter. Good work. Lovely promo. Yeah. They'll probably go and lose tomorrow the number one seeds and render the stat meaningless. But I've done the research anyway.

39:03That's why you got it in today, isn't it? Exactly. That's why we're going to be sending it out before then. The junior finals were today. Here are your names to look out for in the future. The boys' title was won by the top seed, Luiz Guto Michel from Brazil. He is 17 years old. Get this, he is nine days older than Moise Kwame. Oh, my goodness. He'd beaten another Brazilian in the semis, and today he beat American 13th seed, 16-year-old Michael Antonius. These are good names. Yeah. These are good names. I like the idea of a couple of additional Brazilians to answer the mix. Absolutely. That's fun, isn't it?

39:43Yeah, that's a really good prospect. he was the top seed but he's not the junior world number one the world number one is Ivan Ivanov from Bulgaria he won junior Wimbledon and the junior US Open last year but he's been he's pretty much transitioned to pros now he's started to play challenges trains at the Nadal Academy so it's kind of a legacy junior number one position because he's still got those those points on his ranking obviously But, yeah, name to look out for in the seniors in future. The girls' title, this is a really interesting one, was on by the 12th seeded Russian-born Czech player, represents Russia, I think, but has lived in Czechia since she was two, has lived and trained there since she was two years old, Elisa Oktyabreva, 6-2, 6-1, over the second seed from China, Sun Jinran.

40:38Now, Octia Brava is 17. Her son is just 15. She started playing senior events, did Octia Brava, in 2024. But she had a long layoff with a really bad wrist injury, and her ranking dropped way down. She was supposed to play qualies here, but didn't make the cut. And she was like, well, I'm free, and I was planning to be in Paris. I'm eligible, so why don't I play the juniors? She said, I got this from the Roland Garros website, she said, I didn't plan to play juniors, but I was really sad that I couldn't play the women's main draw. So once I came back to training, I said to my coach, I want to play the juniors because it's Roland Garros.

41:18It has a special place in my heart. And I just said, let's go for the title. And that panned out pretty well. So a little cameo in the juniors. And now she'll be going back to playing the WTA 75s and those sorts of things, you know, trying to build a ranking. A bit like Felinska, just, you know, pitch up, go and reach the final. She probably didn't play her best tennis either. So that is your little tour of results from today. There is just one singles match and one doubles match to go here at Roland Garros 2026. And we'll be looking ahead to that in part three. Welcome back to part three of today's tennis podcast, our penultimate tennis podcast from Roland Garros, 2026.

42:05We have two matches on the Chateaille schedule tomorrow. Of course, the men's singles final. We'll talk about that in a moment. Before that, at 11 a.m., the women's doubles final. Katerina Siniarka and Taylor Townsend against Anna Dallinina and Alexandra Krunic. Are the top seeds, Siniarka and Townsend, Matt, going to win and put the cherry on top of your stat? I think they are. If you beat Defani, love and one, then you deserve to win the title in my mind. It's a strong case. Okay, how about this men's singles final? Alexander Zverev in his fourth Grand Slam final taking on Flavio Caballi in his first.

42:49There is a clear favourite here on paper. That's not up for debate. I guess the question here is how strong a case anyone feels like they can make for Flavio Caballi. It's a three-and-one head-to-head in Zverev's favour, two-and-one head-to-head on clay. They've won a piece this year. Zverev won their most recent meeting on clay in Madrid, and Caballi won the one shortly before that in the Munich final. So he's won their one previous final meeting, and it was recently, and it was on clay. I'm sure that will be in Caballi's mind and he'll be doing selective tennis player memory of the rest of their head-to-head.

43:31The forecast, the weather forecast, it's supposed to be dry, intermittent sun, bit windy, but less than today, less chaos than today, I think. Matt, what do you think? It's hard, isn't it? Because those two matches you've just mentioned, Munich and Madrid, could barely have been more different, really. I mean, in Munich, Kabaly was brilliant, firing winners all over the place, dominating the match, taking the racket out of Zverev's hand. He played brilliantly. And then in Madrid, he was really flat, Kabaly, and Zverev absolutely dominated him, served him off the court, kind of left Kabaly with nowhere to go.

44:15and you look at that and you think, well, how am I supposed to use that data to work out what's going to happen? They're polar opposites.

44:31I've started to come round to Kabbali just because it's the upset slam. And I've been thinking in the last 24 hours, maybe Kabbali can pull this off. The thing is, I've never thought Zverev would win a slam. And the reason is because I've always thought there'd be someone better than him in the draw. For a long time that was, you know, Djokovic, and in the last few years it's been Alcres and Sinner, and they're not here. So all along this tournament I've thought, well, I do think this is the one that Zverev's going to win, because those guys are not here now, he still is, he's playing well, I think this is his time, this is the one that he wins.

45:14but then I've been starting to think well can Caballi just find that level not necessarily the level that Alcraz and Sinna have but just a level a little bit above what Zverev's got and force Zverev out of his shell that's what I'm interested in because I think this tournament Zverev's not needed to do that he's not faced too much pressure a little bit in opening sets but he's got through that well and then he's basically cruised and he's played players in the last couple of rounds who didn't have legs, Hodder and Mensik, and he's taken advantage of that and he's absolutely deserved to win those matches easily.

45:53So you're piecing this together and you think, well, Kabaly's got the legs. He and Zverev haven't played all that much tennis this tournament compared to everyone else. Kabaly didn't play a semi-final. And I do believe what we saw there in Munich is he's got a high level that can be just above maybe what Zverev's got in terms of explosivity and being electric. So that is going to force Verov, I think, out of his shell. And the question is whether he steps up and does it. And all along, I've kind of thought in his career that he won't do that. So that's the case for Kabbali. But I do think it's also possible that Kabbali can't find that level.

46:37And it being a first grandstand final, and in the end, Ferev's steadiness over the course of the match gets him through. And I still ultimately come out on that side because I think Caballi would have to play the match of his life over five sets to really push Ferev to those places, forcing him to come up with the plays. And I'm just not convinced that as good as Caballi has been this tournament, I'm just not convinced he's going to quite be able to do that. So ultimately, I am going for Zverev to win this one, despite some thoughts for Kabbali in the last 24 hours. I found it very interesting what Gil Gross, the tennis analyst that I'm sure lots of you are aware of, really excellent kind of forensic technical analyst of the game, what he had to say on his podcast.

47:29He kind of broke down the three scenarios for this match and he made the case more generally that we shouldn't read too much into Zverev's handling of the pressure on this opportunity from the matches he's played up to this point because finals, grand slam finals, aren't that big a deal to him. That's not doing anything he hasn't done before. It's getting over this final obstacle that is the test for him. And he says the big question, the central question of this match and this is something that I'd been sort of having vague thoughts along the lines of, but Gil crystallised it and expressed it in a way that was like, oh, yes, that's what I've been thinking.

48:12I just don't have the words for it. Thank you, Gil. He said the central question of this match is, is Kabbali good enough to create tension in the match? Like, can he, kind of the same as what Matt was saying, can he play well enough to find that top level to ask the question of Zverev? And he thinks, you know, scenario one is that the answer to that is no. And Zverev kind of cruises to this one. And that is, I don't think any of us think that is unlikely. But of scenario two and three, two being Kabbali plays well, makes a match of it, asks Zverev the question, and Zverev stands up and has the answer to it.

48:55and scenario three, Koboli plays as described, and Zverev doesn't have the answer to it, as he hasn't done three times in the past. He thinks maybe scenario three is more likely than two. In Gil's words, the scar tissue for Zverev is no joke. No, I don't think it is. I think there is a chance to make him panicky because I think he's supremely confident right now that he is going to win this title. I think he believes in his own tennis and I think he has every right to because I think it is the best tennis I've seen him play here at Ridingar. I've seen him play well here before, but there is a and he hasn't had to play the players he's had to play in the past.

49:37I mean, listen, you know, he's had some really tough runs in this tournament in the past in terms of opponents. He just hasn't had that this time because of the way things have fallen. But he's playing well. He's playing with conviction. he thinks that and I think I would if I were him too that if he turns up and plays the way he has he wins this title and there's nothing that Caballi can do about it my question is whether Caballi, because I believe Caballi can really find that level that you described, that incredibly high electric level, he's got, he's like road runner with his legs the way he gets about the court, he's a blur of speed He gets to crazy balls.

50:18When he gets inspired, he's got real pop and power on his ground strokes and he can hit drop shots. He's got a lot of game and he's got a good but solid backhand so that he can stay in exchanges. The thing for me is how does he come out? Does he come out scared? Does he come out frozen, stressed? All of these things would be totally understandable. I was thinking that today, Felinska, when she walked out, just the set piece nature of this thing. It's so big. It's so unlike any of the other days of the tournament final. You know, nothing else coming before. And I just, I wonder how Caballi comes out.

51:00Because so far, the two sets that we've seen Zverev lose in this tournament have been third sets. He's been two sets up and Conte Annalise has played well to win a tie break. and then we've had Menchik take advantage of her little laps maybe and playing better himself. He wins the third set but that's not enough. It's too far gone. You're going to have to pull an amazing rabbit out of a hat to win from there. And I watched the highlights and I watched live at the time of when they played here a year ago in the third round. And it's very everyone the first set of that 6-2. second set caballi was electric he was amazing and he probably should have won the set but he lost it on the tie break he had the crowd he had the moments he's doing the waving of the hands you're watching him thinking he's a better player than zverev but he didn't win the set and even if he had he still got win two more i just think somebody needs to hurt zverev early when zverev is tense and when he isn't quite feeling it yet and put him on the back foot and if he's on the back foot and if it doesn't immediately switch then the stress can come in yeah look i have the same concern about how well cabali will play tomorrow how how much time it might take him to settle and play well if he if he does at any point in the match i do think it helps that he's not casparud facing nadal here in 2022 we all know that footage don't we of him in the tunnel like, you know, the match was lost then, wasn't it?

52:38Nadal's doing his jumping jacks and Kasparud is shitting on his pants. Like, we can all see what's happening. Like, that was the Kasparud is not in the mix and there's only two of them left moment. Zverev does not have that aura. Like, I mean, nobody has Nadal's aura at Roland-Garros, but, like, it's not even close. There isn't that element to contend with, I don't think. I don't think there's imposter syndrome relative to his opponent. There is a bit of big brotherly stuff going on there. Which Varev's trying to push. Yeah, he's definitely doing the... He's a nice kid stuff, isn't he? Yes. I think the fact that...

53:18Little kid. I think the fact that Caballi has a win over him helps with that a little bit, was a final. Look, I do agree with you about the first set. I think that's so crucial for Caballi to settle and to hurt Zverev when I think Zverev's going to be maybe at his weakest in the whole match. That's when he could be tight and when he could be just not... He's been a bit clunky in the first sense the last few rounds. The thing is, in terms of those scenarios that you and Gil laid out, I do think there's a scenario where Caballi is good enough to create tension, but he's not good enough to sustain it.

53:55I think he can have lapses in a way that Sinu and Alcaraz don't. I know Alcaraz occasionally has lapses, but not to the extent, really, that Kabbali does and not in Grandstand Finals. Big matches. When Alcaraz gets in those moments, he sustains it for longer. I could see a scenario where Kabbali does hurt and does sting and then has letdowns. And I could see Zverev just weathering those. As long as he does it early, though, you can afford a letdown in a best-of-five set match. I don't think you can if you don't do it until set three, as David described. But if he gets the first set... The second one is also a possible, like if he levelled.

54:34But, you know, the problem is it's very hard not to have a letdown after winning a set if you've never really been in this position before. So I do think the first set is key. Just in terms of the tennis match-up, the athleticism of Gabali is so key, isn't it? Again, you know, listening to Gil Gross' podcast, it was a great breakdown of this. Like, he can afford to stay very deep on return. Make a lot of balls. Make a lot of returns. because he's got the athleticism to reset, you know, to get back onto the baseline for the rally. And he can run around the backhand and hit, crucially, the inside-in forehand, the one from the backhand corner down the line, rather than the one from the backhand corner cross-court, the inside-out forehand, which goes into Zvere's backhand and is not the play.

55:23Yeah. Again, to flip it in Zvere's favour, like Kabbali's favourite serve goes to a right-hander's backhand and he's been using that shot really effectively all tournaments especially against Orjali Asim you know the kick kick serve to the backhand you get a short reply and you're on top of the point immediately that is not going to be happening if he's doing that to Zverev I know he's got a good kick serve Kabbali sometimes it will work I'm sure but a lot of the times Zverev is going to be getting that shot back deep on his baseline, on his toes and creating the sort of rallies he wants as well.

56:01That's a really interesting tactical element to me. Look, I think we all think likely Zverev will win. I just think there are sort of solid tennis reasons out there why we could get the final upset at the upset slam. Yeah, for sure. and just to say before we end this segment of the show we do know that a lot of people listening will find tomorrow difficult with Zverev being involved and the strong potential as we've just been discussing for him to win it was ahead of the last final that he played here two years ago that he settled a case relating to domestic abuse charges brought by his ex-girlfriend and the mother of his child Brenda Patea the court at the time told The Athletic, the decision is not a verdict and it's not a decision about guilt or innocence.

56:56Patea was the second woman to accuse him of domestic abuse after former girlfriend Olya Sharipova in 2020. Sharipova did not pursue charges and Zverev has always denied all the allegations. As Ben Rothenberg wrote and reported in his substack this week, he said, for so many who care about domestic violence, Zverev's prominence and the way he's been continually embraced within the sport make tennis appear to be an unwelcoming and even hostile culture. Now, not everyone will feel discomfort tomorrow, but lots will, and the same is true in the press room. And just finally on this, if you are having difficult feelings and you are a friend of the Tennis Podcast, honestly, the barge is about as safe a space as there is to express those feelings.

57:48There's a whole community of wonderful tennis fans out there debating and discussing the sport with compassion and integrity and love. And it's a huge source of pride for us. So if you fancy it, I would encourage you to head there and we will put the link in our show notes. Right. The time has come for Matt to share whatever, whatever childhood pet anecdote you might have for us, Matt. You must have seen this coming. It's going to be disappointing. We just had fish. Tell us about the fish. There was a shop in the village that we could get the fish from, so... Are we talking tropical or are we talking gold?

58:31Gold. OK. They didn't last long. You know, you'd come down in the morning sometimes and, you know, one of them would be upside down. Did you give any names or...? I'm sure we did, but honestly, we had so many over the years. How were the dead fish disposed of? Were they unceremoniously flushed down the loo? There's no judgment here, that's how mine were. I think quite possibly. I know for a fact I never disposed of any of the dead fish. That does not surprise me. I don't know who did it. I suspect my dad. Okay. I suspect he took ownership of that. He was least keen on the fish, generally, I would say.

59:09So it was probably most willing to get rid of them. Cleaning the tank is an absolute. Nobody tells you how crap that is, do they, when you're excitedly getting fish. And it does smell. It smells so bad. The filter stops working and it gets covered in grime and then the fish are floating at the top of the tank. Yeah. But then there's the good stuff. The good stuff is just fish are piddling about. They float about and you have a little chat with them. It was definitely nice for a while. Yeah. But I think you go a bit bored of them. Yeah, I got a tropical fish tank when I was about 13. And I was, my God, I was excited.

59:52I wanted it so much. Nobody had told me about fin rot. We had a tropical fish tank as well. Initially, you only had the two fish called bit and bot.

1:00:08I've also just remembered just to bring this round to Bashir and cats generally. I've also just remembered that my brother got a newt and our cat Peanut ate it overnight. One morning, my newt was gone. So segue into Bashir there, who I'm sure is far too angelic to have ever eaten any other beloved household pets. I caught David just admiring a picture of Bashir this morning. He went, this really is a good cat. Yeah. That's what he said over his morning coffee. He's got a face for every occasion. Yeah. He's a... What a mascot. What a lovely boy. Hello to Bodie, Maisie and Roger and hello to our top folks and executive producers Greg, Chris and Geoff.

1:00:53Let's have some shout-outs, Matt. We have Matt and Ezra from Fulkirk, Scotland. Oh, wow. Hello, Matt and Ezra. Matt has been a listener since 2016 and Ezra is 18 months old. starting to get into tennis or watch a game or two. Good lad. That's so lovely. Love it. Oh, 2016. So that's just pre-Matt, unless he listened to your debut at the US Open. That's also pre... That was 2017, was it? 2017, yeah. Matt used to get the odd mention in 2016 as student Matt. Yeah, he was a mythical creature, mythical figure at that point. That was when I only knew you from WhatsApp. Oh, no, and Queens. Like Jib. We only know Jib from WhatsApp.

1:01:40Our editor. We love Jib. He's a tennis player now. Yes, it's Jib's one year anniversary of playing tennis. He's looking for tournaments now. He said to play. Matt, as is evident, we love Matt's. So well done for being one. And thank you for being a friend of the Tennis Podcast. We also have Isabel Cantin from Montreal. Hello, Isabel. And Isabel would like to shout out her parents. My brother and I have loved tennis from a young age, Isabel says, and we would love to convince our parents, Renee and Jean, to come to a tennis tournament again. Our parents came to Wimbledon and the US Open and both times it rained all day.

1:02:25Oh, no. Oh, come. Renee, Jean, come. Yes, Isabel says, Please help us convince my dad third time's a charm and live tennis is a game changer. Come on, Isabel's dad. Come on. You can do it. Lightning doesn't strike in the same place three times. That is scientific. Yeah. And honestly... And there's more roofs now. If you come to Rana Garros, it's just dreamy. Yeah. I'm telling you. Just don't get a men's semifinal single match session ticket. If Matteo and Aldi's playing. Yeah, it's a no-brainer. Got to do it. Yeah, live tennis is the best. I always say I'm never unimpressed by the players when you're up close watching them live.

1:03:13You never go, oh, it's a bit crap. Yeah, they're unreal. Yeah. Hopefully that's done the trick. And finally, we have Clarissa Troop. Oh, hello, Clarissa. We know Clarissa. She's in our predictions competition this tournament. certain she's doing better than me. Is she beating me? Everybody's beating me, aren't they? Clarissa? No, actually. Oh, really? I'm beating someone. She's one of the two below you, David. Excellent. I got seven points today, didn't I? Great. Yes, but we love Clarissa. She's lived in LA for a long time, but now is in West Sussex and started listening to the pod properly during the Australian Open of 2020.

1:03:58What an interesting time to start listening. Yeah, wow. Just before the pandemic. And Roland Garros is a slam that she's not yet been to, despite trying. You'll get here one day, Clarissa. You come and see us. I love the name Clarissa. It makes me think of Clarissa Explains It All, which is one of my earliest TV memories. What a show. Bit of a note at all, was she, Clarissa? Not this one. Your one. I don't think you were the target audience for that show, David. And Matt wasn't born. But anyway, I enjoyed that momentary trip down memory lane, Clarissa. So thank you for that. Thank you, Clarissa, Isabel, Rene, Jean, Matt and Ezra.

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Catherine, David and Matt react to Mirra Andreeva’s 6-3 6-2 win over qualifier Maja Chwalinska in the Roland Garros final.

Part one - We discuss Andreeva’s journey to becoming a Grand Slam champion, the role of coach Conchita Martinez, how Andreeva dealt with the occasion and elevated her game to win the final, and what the future might hold for Chwalinska.

Part two (33:10) - We run through the day’s wheelchair, doubles and junior finals.

Part three (41:57) - Men’s final preview. Can Flavio Cobolli give this tournament one last upset against Alexander Zverev?

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