In short
Wimbledon Day 11 live coverage focuses on the women’s semifinals—Amanda Anisimova’s breakthrough vs Aryna Sabalenka and Iga Swiatek’s dominant win over Belinda Bencic—plus what it means for Saturday’s final.
Guests
Pamela Shriver (former US Open champion; tennis commentator and mixed doubles partner of Matt Roberts) and David (commentator; provides match analysis). Matt Roberts is the host.
Key claims
- Anisimova reached her first Wimbledon final by beating world No. 1 Sabalenka 6-4, 4-6, 6-4 in a tense, momentum-shifting match.
- The match hinged on Anisimova’s backhand, key holds (including a Love 40 hold in set one), and resilience after going down 2-0 in the third.
- Sabalenka’s return game was worse than usual; her tactics (especially targeting the backhand) didn’t fully work on grass.
- Swiatek looked relentless and “front-running,” winning 6-2, 6-0 over Bencic; grass confidence, intensity, and freshness are cited as reasons.
Notable examples
- The “aggro” moment after a backhand winner and umpire discussion in set two.
- Anisimova’s third-set turnaround after losing serve early, then winning one-sidedly.
- Swiatek’s serve speed and court distribution; Bencic’s physical issues (toe injury) and overawed start.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAmanda Anisimova's Historic Victory
0:45 to 3:06
The discussion revolves around Amanda Anisimova's remarkable journey to the Wimbledon final, beating the world number one.
“It feels as good as I hoped it would feel.”
Match Analysis: Anisimova vs. Sabalenka
3:06 to 6:43
A detailed analysis of the semifinal match dynamics between Anisimova and Sabalenka, including key moments and shifts in momentum.
“Just everything you want from a Grand Slam semi-final.”
The Turning Points of the Match
6:43 to 11:45
The hosts analyze critical moments that shifted the match's momentum, highlighting the mental aspects of both players.
“And yet, immediately, as soon as this match started, I was like, oh, but we haven't seen it recently on grass.”
Final Thoughts on the Semifinal
11:45 to 14:00
The discussion wraps up with reflections on both players' performance and what this match means for their futures.
“I think if there was one thing I would really point to for Sabalenka, it was her return game.”
Anisimova's Tactical Shift Against Sabalenka
14:00 to 17:30
Learn how Anisimova's mindset and tactical adjustments led to her victory over Sabalenka.
“And then you looked at the replay on the TV and the camera couldn't keep up with the ball.”
Resilience and Improvement in Anisimova's Game
17:30 to 21:40
Explore how Anisimova's resilience and improved skill set contributed to her success.
“I was kind of thinking she was under more pressure against Zarazua than against Sabalenka on serve in the early stages.”
Sabalenka's Press Conference Reflection
21:40 to 24:20
Understand Sabalenka's feelings post-match and her insights on the challenges faced.
“There was actually an incredible summary from Sabalenka right at the end of her press conference.”
Anisimova's Preparation for the Final
24:20 to 28:00
Discuss Anisimova's approach to preparing for her Wimbledon final against Swiatek.
“And then she said to her, so you're not going to say sorry?”
Anisimova's Emotional Journey
28:00 to 30:20
Explore Amanda Anisimova's journey and her family dynamics during Wimbledon.
“From everything I've understood and just the fact that, as you mentioned, Jackson, and, you know, we've just got to do a quick shout-out to someone who's 76 years old or same birthday, Virginia Wade.”
Sabalenka's Mental Challenges
30:20 to 33:50
Discuss Aryna Sabalenka's mental state following her French Open experience.
“You guys know my first two things that I did once I landed, media-wise, was come to the live show the night I arrived.”
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The Pressure of Winning Slams
33:50 to 36:50
Analyzing the challenges faced by Sabalenka and her quest for a major title.
“She talked about the race and how she'd qualified for the WTA finals already, which obviously is incredible.”
American Women's Tennis Resurgence
36:50 to 40:00
Highlighting the rise of American women in tennis and their historical context.
“I'm thinking like there aren't that many ball strikers like Keyes and like Anissimova who do have that smooth power that can even rush her.”
Iga Swiatek's Grass Court Performance
40:00 to 42:04
Examining Iga Swiatek's dominance on grass courts and her playing style improvements.
“And then on the men's side, you know, we got great stuff going on as well, but it's the same people time and time again competing.”
Sabalenka's Grass Court Mindset
42:04 to 46:39
Explore how Sabalenka's previous losses shaped her approach to grass courts this year.
“She comes out and she plays the ball and my word, there is no front runner in a match like her.”
Sviantek's Grass Court Strengths
46:40 to 48:35
Discuss Sviantek's adaptability to grass and her recent performance improvements.
“Sampras struggled his first few times coming here, believe it or not.”
Strawberry Pasta and Wimbledon Delicacies
48:36 to 51:12
A light-hearted discussion about strawberry pasta and food at Wimbledon.
“There was not one mention in today's press conference yet again of strawberry pasta.”
Analyzing the Mixed Doubles Final
51:13 to 56:00
Review the mixed doubles final results and team performances.
“The unpredictability of recent champions kind of points to Anna Samova.”
Mixed Doubles Final Insights
56:00 to 59:04
Pam and David discuss the thrilling mixed doubles final and its implications.
“and the men's singles semifinals, but first, but first Pam meets a blondie.”
Djokovic's Practice and Strategy
59:04 to 1:01:20
They analyze Djokovic's practice routine and his health ahead of the semifinals.
“They haven't thought of this kind of thing with night sessions.”
Previewing the Men's Semifinals
1:01:20 to 1:07:16
The hosts share their predictions and discuss players to watch in the upcoming matches.
“on Novak Djokovic's practice for our preview of tomorrow's men's semifinals.”
Listener Shout-Outs and Mascots
1:07:16 to 1:10:00
The hosts give shout-outs to listeners and discuss their mascots.
“Rory is named after Rory from the Gilmore Girls, which I watched for the first time last summer.”
Connecting with Fans
1:10:00 to 1:10:44
The hosts express gratitude towards their listeners and introduce shout-outs.
“Yeah, we'd not be sitting with you right now if it wasn't for the podcast.”
Listener Shout-Outs
1:10:44 to 1:11:56
The hosts share listener shout-outs, highlighting their connections and experiences.
“We've also got Sarah Yizer from Washington, D.C.”
Celebrating Birthdays
1:11:56 to 1:13:10
The hosts celebrate listener birthdays and share personal anecdotes.
“Sarah says, I decided to try out to be a ball person for the City Open this year, and I got selected.”
Recapping the Live Show
1:13:10 to 1:14:16
The hosts reflect on their live show experiences and tease future appearances.
“We would be Paula-less if you weren't here, Pam.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Hello and welcome to the Tennis Podcast live from Wimbledon on day 11 of the Championships. An extraordinary day here at SW19. A day of angst, of beauty, of drama and that is just Matt Roberts' internal monologue. There have been calls for an emergency podcast even though we're daily. People didn't want to wait the extra few hours. Our Instagram pretty much buckled under the strain of people sending photos of Matt with blonde hair earlier. Thank you, AI, for all of that, because, of course, Amanda Anisimova is a Wimbledon finalist. She got there by beating the world number one, and she will face Igor Sviontek in Saturday's final.
0:44What a time to be alive for Matt Roberts. It feels as good as I hoped it would feel. You know, these shows where people are always anticipating what we're going to say, where we've had such a big day and in a way are kind of some of the hardest ones to do but what a day what a match the match of amanda anisimova's life i want to go blonde i've got my blondies here from jackie in the crowd over there
1:14unbelievable yeah they were playing blondie yeah when we sat down yeah incredible things have been happening up here and what could possibly improve Matt's day above and beyond Amanda Anisimova reaching a major final and Jackie making in blondies well there's really only one thing and that's Pamela Howard Shriver yes hello here with my mixed doubles partner Jam Shriver yes Pam I know you've hot-footed it from the mixed doubles final which we'll talk about in in detail later because David, of course, is the ultimate mixed doubles connoisseur. But I'm sure Matt was in your thoughts today. He sure was.
1:56I gave it the capital M, capital A, capital T, capital T in our group text because I felt like you were a Wimbledon winner today, but there's still one more match to go, Matt. One more match. There is so much hype about Matt going blonde that we do have a We do have a potential plan for celebrating because reaching a Grand Sam final, Pam, is an achievement in itself that should be celebrated, right? 100%. I'm still celebrating 70 years in the US Open. So we were thinking maybe, maybe Matt could frost his tips for the final and then go the full blonde if she wins. Do you co-sign? Sure. Sure. I'll co-sign.
2:41Frosted tips. You don't want to say that three times quickly. It's all the rage. Jack Draper's done it. Matt Roberts is going to do it. Dominic Thiem did it. Didn't get the most rave reviews for you, did he? No, it'll be better when Matt does it. I was going to say. Well, you're going to do it for me. Yeah, I'm really excited. I've been trying to frost some tips for a long time now. Let's talk about the way that she did it. Let's talk about the match. An extraordinary match. Just everything you want from a Grand Slam semi-final. It really did have everything. Two hours and 36 minutes, 6-4, 4-6, 6-4.
3:18I mean, talk about doing it the hard way. David, you commentated on sets one and three. That must have been incredible and exhausting. Yeah, it was one of the matches of my career to commentate on, actually. I mean, I was just feeling the drama and the tension all the way through. It actually felt more tense on behalf of Anissimova in the first set. I felt, than in the third set. Because in the first set, she seemed to be so keyed up. Every time she had a disappointment, and there were several of them, she seemed right on the edge of her nerves, turning around to the box. By the time she got to the third set, I sensed that she'd settled a little bit, and she was actually playing even better.
4:05But what a match. What a match. A champion fighting for her life out there in Sabalenka, desperate to reach her first Wimbledon final. and Anissa Mova who's gone through such a lot in her young career never been on that stage before and overcoming the world number one it was just it was just brilliant the whole thing. How unexpected is this for you Pam? Well I think when we were all at the draw and we saw where Anissa Mova the 13th seed fell we all felt pretty positive about where she was in the draw got to the finals at Queen's So she got an early jump on grass court matches. And then I didn't think she'd win today over Sabalenka.
4:44But then when you consider how many tight matches Sabalenka has lost in like the last five, seven years, whether it's semis or finals of majors, then it becomes a jump ball. And I'll tell you what, I did a little bit of reflecting on the first semifinal from last year that lasted 10 minutes longer, two hours, 47, when Paolini beat Vekic. And I was in the coaching box. And I just thought the drama today really matched the semifinals of last year. I felt the same. I was having flashbacks. You know, Matt and I were sat in the exact same seats. Obviously, you know, we love Jasmine Paolini, but we had a particular Pamela Shriver interest in Donna Vekic last year.
5:24And we wanted it for you. And it was a very tense occasion. Today, I had the Matt Roberts backhand energy next to me. Every time I turned around, I felt like, oh, my God, everyone's looking at Matt, waiting for his reactions. The first rule of journalism is don't make the story about you. We've broken all of it. But here we are. Here we are, terribly invested in Matt going blonde. I said to you, I joined after the first few games of this final, and I said, look, this isn't a prediction for who's going to win this. I'm by no means claiming any Roberts-esque kind of prophetic qualities here. but I said this is the match that Anna Simova wants it to be.
6:06Like, it's going to come down to execution, but the look and feel of this match is what Anna Simova would have wanted. Absolutely. And look, as much as I believe that Amanda and Simova could win this, I did have, going into this, a lot of their more recent meetings where it's been less a hitting contest from the back of the court and we've seen the developments that Sabalenka's made in her game with her movement, her slice, her angles. You know, all of this stuff, I think, has developed to the point where she started to turn that head-to-head round against Amanda Anisimova. And yet, immediately, as soon as this match started, I was like, oh, but we haven't seen it recently on grass.
6:50And actually, the grass, I think, turned it back into the kind of contest that Anisimova wants against Sabalenka, where she's able to rush her. She's able to put the ball deep. She's able to use her own ground strokes against Sabalenka. And we saw that so early on. As you said, she settled. She started playing the sorts of points that she wanted to be playing. And it was a tight first set, very tight. Also, there was a couple of medical situations in the crowd with people going down in the heat. So, you know, there were these stoppages as well. But I would absolutely highlight a couple of key games in that first set.
7:32Amanda Nisimova holding from Love 40 down to go up 4-3 was an absolutely pivotal moment. That was after one of the medical situations in the crowd. And then, of course, the final game of the set when Nisimova broke to win it. It was this back and forth game, so many deuces. And what I loved about it, obviously, was that in that first set, the backhand was the star of the match. It was cross-court, down the line. like you know we were getting texts from people who were maybe seeing saying i get it now i get it now i see anisimova it's different it moves you that shot and it was a dream particularly in that first set today and it and it was absolutely pivotal for for amanda nissimova to win that first set she's got an amazing record recently like 28 29 matches in a row now where she's won the first set and gone on to win and yet sabalenka's got this amazing record of not losing in straight sets at slams you know it's 100 matches now where she hasn't lost in straight sets at a slam so you knew that even if anisimova had won that first set i did always feel like sabalenka was going to come back at her and you know she's a champion i just thought that this was going to be a fight yeah okay so second set how were you feeling how was everybody feeling hot i mean it It was really tough, that first set with the disruptions, and I thought it was going to keep continuing.
9:01But I thought it really teaches you well how to just deal with whatever's in front of you. And I can see the maturity of Anna Samova because a few years ago, even that little bit of interruption, things that she wasn't expected, it would have thrown her off. And you mentioned Love 40 holds are gold. It's almost worth two games. And that was super impressive. And then the second set, there was an absolutely key moment, which, again, a lot of people are talking about after this semifinal. You're talking about the aggro here. Yeah. So Nisimova strikes a backhand winner down the line, sort of halfway through this set.
9:45And she grunts after it. You know, once it's left her racket, as it's kind of going down the other end of the court. and Sabalenka looks over at the umpire. I don't know whether she said anything. She certainly looked over and then the umpire had a word with Anisimova and it seemed to be that Sabalenka was suggesting and the umpire was saying that that could have been a hindrance. And we later learned from Sabalenka's press conference that Anisimova had said back to the umpire that she does it all the time. it was very much bit rich energy absolutely yeah good one all the Matt hits grounds will be closing in around 15 minutes join in Pam please make your way to the exit gates and make sure you take all your belongings with you we hope you've enjoyed your day here at Wimbledon and wish you a pleasant and safe journey home I can't thank you I can't be in sync with Matt on that he's the best okay so we were at bit rich yeah bit rich and honestly i felt in the moment like it fired sabalenka up i really did feel that i felt like the energy said that afterwards and then she said it afterwards you know i felt like the energy of the match changed then it got a bit spicy got a bit tense and it it had just been it had been a tennis match purely and anisimova was coming out on top it kind of turned into you know there was aggro there was drama it wasn't like it didn't spill over but it was there it was there was a tension to it and Savalenka used it as fuel and fired herself up and broke in the next game I think after that it was a poor game for Manisa Mova she hit four errors from 30 level up but things kind of changed in that moment and I thought Savalenka also did a great job of going to the forehand a lot more in that second set she started avoiding the backhand she just changed the changed the feel and the pattern of the match and and got back into it so not to jump ahead we'll we'll come back to doing the third set in detail but why did she stop that why did she stop the tactic of trying to avoid the backhand honestly I felt like she did keep going to the forehand and the forehand got better from Vanessa Mova I felt like that shot stepped up and actually in the very latter stages it was the backhand pains me to say it but it was actually the backhand that failed Anissimov on on one or two occasions and it was the forehand that that delivered but again that's that's part of what we were talking about the other day in terms of those improvements she's made like the backhand got her in that position the forehand finished it off like I really do think she she stepped it up Anissimov on the forehand and suddenly it was like she had nowhere to go because she knows the backhand's dangerous, the forehand was delivering.
12:37I think if there was one thing I would really point to for Sabalenka, it was her return game. And actually we've highlighted it against Raducanu, against Siegmund. She's been missing returns. I felt like she missed maybe even more today as well. It was interesting. She singled it out today. She said, you know, my return wasn't good enough, but she said it was worse compared to previous matches. And I was thinking, it's not been great all tournament. arena. I feel like we should go step by step through this third set. What I want to know is how each of you were feeling about the likelihood of how this third set would pan out at the point that Anisimova lost serve at the start of it, went two love down and was looking tired, I thought.
13:22I think she ran for a backhand and just looked sluggish, running out wide. I personally was worried for her at that point. I thought there was a chance that that could be a very one-sided set in favour of Sabalenka at that point because I thought, OK, now we're getting the reality check here. Anisimov has never been in this position. Sabalenka is so used to it and desperate for it. I was talking to Marianne Bartoli in that third set and there were points where she was saying, well, yes, the experience helps on one level, but she's also got quite a lot of mental scar tissue recently Sabalenka of having not got over the line in the biggest matches this year so it can go one or two ways what I actually thought happened was that Anissimova with the deficit relaxed a little she stopped looking quite so anxious and around at her coaching team and I thought okay she's starting to hit the ball again here and when she hits the thing I mean it's so sweet a strike there was there were a couple of backhand she hit that the only reaction that I as a commentator could have was, whoa!
14:31And then you looked at the replay on the TV and the camera couldn't keep up with the ball. It was out of the shot before it had gone past. And I think that she just gained belief as it was going on. I mean, she ended up having a really one-sided scoreline there. And I think that that was mainly, she just started out playing Sabalenka because she loosened up a little. Well, I saw a couple of those backhands as well. It just looked like a frozen rope. I saw it fail a couple times towards the end. I did have a little text message exchange after the match with somebody in Sabalenka's camp who referred to the match as a tactical mess.
15:12So that kind of goes back to how much Sabalenka should have been picking on the forehand side. You know, obviously when Anna Samova got tight towards the end, maybe get to her first major final, there's always going to be some messy unforced. I can't think of a person who doesn't make the odd, horrible mistake out of nerves. But in the end, I think Sabalenka's really got to do some thinking between now and the U.S. Open where she'll be trying to defend her title about her tactics. And I thought Sabalenka looked so stressed in her face every time the camera went in on her. I felt like Anna Samova's face told you that she was a little more calm on the inside.
15:54and generally if you look a little calmer on the inside, you come out on top more times than not. I also would just circle the game at the end of the second set where Nisimova held to force Sabalenka to serve out the second set. And actually if you then look at how the third set panned out, the fact that Nisimova was serving first in it ended up being crucial because it meant that while it was only one break, she had the two return games to try and win the match. And she needed it, you know, because at 5-2, she's returning trying to win the match and Sabalenka holds. She then serves for it, gets broken, but it's not level then in the score.
16:39And Nisimov is still ahead. And she's still ahead because of that game that she won at the back end of the second set, fighting through, showing great resilience. and I always feel it's kind of easier when you've got a great return game like Anisimova has it's maybe easier to win it when you're returning rather than trying to serve it out it just feels like the pressure's a little bit less and she did a great job and went up love 40 in that final game of the match and even though Sabalenka saved the first two the second one in particular was an absolutely extraordinary exchange with Anisimova kind of defending for her life but just Sabalenka having a bit too much she still managed to have an extra match point and finally get it done with the forehand but I think that the way the third set panned out we've got to look at how the second set finished and it was crucial for Nisimov to hold there and I think past versions of her without the resilience that she's shown in this past year might even sort of just throw that second set going against her the mindset would have been would have been a bit worse but she's so so resilient now she's so locked into all the little mini battles in a match and okay she she ended up winning that mini battle and it could have helped her win the big one in the end resilience is the word that i mean kept coming back to us all i think throughout that third set and i think she anisimova has shown resilience on and off the court for a couple of years now and once you learn that skill to bounce back you can take it then within a match something you said about and I think we need to highlight this is Anna Samova's ability to play defense so much better than she ever has I mean I was looking at her footwork a couple of times and how she gets into position to have the right spacing so she can absolutely crush that backhand you just gotta there we go but that's what you do you you you have to improve all these little things a bit right and the forehand's better her serve is better but the footwork and the mindset the feet and the head when they improve wow you can find yourself in a Wimbledon final and she had her best serving day of the tournament today like she's in the she's in the Wimbledon semi-finals and yet you you said in the preview of this match she needs to serve better she actually has got here without serving particularly well and she did yeah and like it was amazing to me through the early stages of this match when she was holding and she was holding.
19:09I was kind of thinking she was under more pressure against Zarazua than against Sabalenka on serve in the early stages. And, yeah, she absolutely stepped it up. And, look, I do think it goes a little bit hand-in-hand with Sabalenka having problems on return. You know, I think there was definitely a world today where Sabalenka returns better and puts more pressure on the Anisimova serve. But, absolutely, that's something that Anisimova could control was her serve and she did it really well. These were pre-match statistics that I heard on the BBC today just at the very start of the match. They said that Amanda Rana-Samova has the highest second serve return speed of all the semi-finalists, men's and women's.
19:56Wow. And the highest average backhand speed of all the semi-finalists tied with Yannick Sinner. I mean, it checks out, doesn't it? It checks out with the eye test. You know, when I'm watching that backhand, I know it's not news. I know we've gone on about it ad nauseum. But even now, I still watch it and think, I just, I can't think of another shot in the sport quite like that. That is as perfect as that. Yeah, the technique is tremendous. And her footwork going in, there's everything. And the way she turns the shoulder and then that power through it. I think there were a couple of backhands today that were in the mid-80s, which, you know, the forehand's usually the shot a lot of times you get in the 90s, but what she can do and the precision and the fact that she likes both cross-court and down the line, so you're just, you're really frozen.
20:50It's hard to pick which way to go. And then, I mean, one of the great shots was a drop shot late, too, so she was able to bring in some touch. And there were a few little bits of touch and slice. Yeah, and like ship returns. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, really, really good. I mean, most of them were kind of reactive shots rather than proactive decisions to use slice or underspin or whatever. But even so, she had it there when she needed it, which I'm not sure I realized she had all that in her locker. Maybe she didn't either. Well, I think people have looked to Sabalenka, actually, in the last couple of years, being a power player who's brought in good use of the drop shot and some little chips, finesse.
21:33People learn, whether it's on the men's side, They learned from Alcaraz and the way he's been playing the forehand drop shot. And I think it hurt Sabalenka that Anna Samova has seen the addition to some touch. There was actually an incredible summary from Sabalenka right at the end of her press conference. It was a fantastic press conference. She was gutted. She was furious. She had clearly just been crying. But she brought humour to it and self-awareness to it. And in ways, in fact, that made me quite sad because it indicated how much the reaction to her French Open press conference still very much on her mind.
22:13You know, she walked in with this comedy routine almost. She saw the full room and she said, guys, I know what you're all here for, but this isn't going to be a press conference like Roland Garros. And she said something similar on the way out as well. She stuck her tongue out at us. Yeah, she said, see, you didn't get me. yeah it was a fantastic press conference but um at the end of it she said she was kind of pushed again on what the difference was and she said she was more brave than me and she was wasn't she that and she said that's what she needs to change going forwards if ever she's in a big match like this next time she doesn't want it decided by her opponent's racket is that fair is she being too hard on herself there I mean do you think do you think she's reading that correctly well I think Sabalenka feels that she's she has more power than anybody else in women's tennis so she was kind of matched a little bit to their power is different I mean Sabalenka hits with more rpms a little more spin where Anna Samova's flatter but I actually felt that Sabalenka was experiencing which so many players the last couple of years have experienced when they play against Sabalenka which is time has taken away and they hadn't played right or wait no they hadn't played in a while they played at the french yeah they played at the french but they hadn't played on grass okay so it is totally different when you haven't played something like anna samova hits it hard and flat on a grass court it's as if you haven't played them and she said exactly that impressed she was like i i she said i know what i need to do to beat her and i thought that that would be not easy for me to do today but i felt pretty confident about being able to do that And I just had underestimated how difficult and different it would be on a grass court.
24:01So Sabalenka agrees with you. There was one other bit of aggro as well where there was a lucky neck cord for Anisimova. And she celebrated it. She put her fist in the air. They did a slow motion replay. She put her fist in the air and Sabalenka's looking at her, looking at her. And then she said to her, so you're not going to say sorry? Come on, you can't be serious. You don't say sorry on that cord that you're trying to get the finals at Wimbledon. Yeah. But I like that there was some aggro. I must say, I have full disclosure, I did have an assignment for ESPN, which is to find out what was going on with Djokovic's practice schedule.
24:41So I did miss a bit of this aggro walking over to Orangi and back. But do you have a scoop for us later on Djokovic's practice? Yes. Okay, Pam. Not a great one. We'll take anything. Stick around for the mediocre reveal later.
25:03A few more things. I mean, I want to stay on this match, obviously, as long as possible. We all went to Anna Simova's press conference, didn't we? I mean, talk about taking it all in your stride. I know that's just her manner, but she was just as she always is, right? I get the impression the next couple of days for her are going to be as the past couple of weeks have been. She's not going to do anything different. She's just going to totally be herself, hang out with her family a little bit, try and not think about being in the Wimbledon final as much as possible. Good luck. If she can do that, God bless her.
25:43Yeah, when she said, you know, Eager's obviously been in a lot of Grand Slam finals before. I haven't but I've been in a lot of big matches I did kind of think you might be underestimating what I always talk about before a grandstand final which is the quiet and the stillness in the air and suddenly it's like this is it and I don't know how you prepare for that when you've not been through it before and you're against someone who's got a great record in those major finals but I do think the point you make about just trying to sort of live her normal Wimbledon experience in these next couple of days I think she's going to try to do that I think it's maybe quite helpful that you know we joke about her her little nephew Jackson having his birthday but she's already posted some Instagram content of like he is adorable of like the whole family together and it's kind of like you know for Jackson it's his day isn't it it's not it's not Amanda Nissimova's day and I think you know she can maybe try and sort of feed off some of that energy as well and just try and live as normal an experience as possible over the next 48 hours but it's gonna it is gonna be tough with that that experience gap that she's got to Svantec in in Sam finals Pam you've been in a Grand Sam final I mean you've been in lots but one Grand Sam singles final do you think it's naive to think that you can approach it like it's just any other match Well, I think you can try, and I think staying in your routine, but this is where your team comes in, because the team can kind of help you, guide you towards it, and make some really smart decisions about practice tomorrow and about saying no to requests.
27:30Make sure tomorrow, the day off between the... Hey, do you want to come and see someone get their hair dyed? I'll be back in L.A., sadly. No, I mean Amanda. Oh. I mean, you can come too. All right. Imagine that, Amanda and Issa Moe turned up for Matt's hair dye. That would be good. That would be great. People all taught me about getting good content. That would be good content. She has got good, well, from what I can tell, she does have good people around her, right? Yes. From everything I've understood and just the fact that, as you mentioned, Jackson, and, you know, we've just got to do a quick shout-out to someone who's 76 years old or same birthday, Virginia Wade.
28:10and also one of the mixed doubles players who won dad's birthday. So Jackson's got a lot of company. But I do think having kids around, first off, it's good it's not her kid. Although, I mean, there are moms that do well, but I do think when you're, it's nice to be able to hand it back over to your sibling. Here's Jackson. I got to go focus on my sleep. That is my experience of being an aunt as well. There you go. Born on the 4th of July. I've got to go focus on my sleep. yeah i i listen pam's the one who's faced this experience of trying to prepare for a grand slam final but i do sense with amanda anisimova here's somebody who's lived quite a lot of life for somebody of her years um you know she's had to go through losing her father she had eight months off because of burnout and and and describing the tour as unbearable for her this is only it was only a couple of years ago and she and in that time that she spent away from it she kind of got other interests and she she lived a more normal life and when when when I heard her describe on Tennis Channel a couple of days ago that the arrival of Jackson and and her sister was very spontaneous it was last minute they just decided to fly over and here they were and I looked up from my commentary box position where you can see into the player box and I mean all I could see were kids.
29:28There were half a dozen kids, not just Jackson, loads of others. Jackson came and went a bit. Kids don't care, right? Kids could care. I mean, Jackson at four, talk about keeping things normal. There's nothing that Jackson's not going to be in awe that his aunt is in the Wimbledon final on Saturday. So having, I give Jackson a little bit of credit. I just strike me as a very healthy setup for the next couple Do you know they've sold out of jams? Well, I'm glad I got my one early. Jackson potentially deprived, though. Well, he's not getting this one.
30:10How much longer can we talk about this? I don't want to dwell too much on this, but just going back to Sabalenka and the hangover from the French Open and the backlash from the final, I do still wonder if that was holding her back a little bit in the match today because the frequency with which she brings it up she said I mean I think she's handling it brilliantly in terms of when she faces the press with humour and this self-effacement and self-awareness and really owning it I'm so impressed with how she's handling it but it also reveals how much it is on her mind and in her consciousness She said, I just don't want to face that hate again.
30:55It was quite a sad line, really. You guys know my first two things that I did once I landed, media-wise, was come to the live show the night I arrived. And then I did that. The club asked me if I would do the interview of Sabalenka and Coco Golf when they practiced on center court. Yes. and it was obvious they wanted to have some of that interview reference what had happened and it became bigger than Sabalenka preparing for Wimbledon what had happened in the past so I do think between now and the U.S. Open Sabalenka needs to lean into what so many have whether it's Madison Keys whether it's Anna Samova just get a little bit of mental health help to kind of like put it in its right perspective, learn from it and move on and kind of control the narrative more going into the U.S.
31:55Open than she was able to do here because it was only a month later. Do you think the U.S. crowds will be OK with that? I do think they will be. New York crowd can be rough, but I think they can also be quite understanding of saying things that you later regret. I mean, New Yorkers say it every day. So I don't I don't think there's going to be a bad reaction to the defending champion Sabalenka at this year's US Open. Good. I hope not. I hope. I mean, I hope not, but I think not. Okay. And we're kind of in this weird place now, aren't we, where Savalenka has been the dominant player on the tour this year, and she's going to have a pretty big points lead.
32:39She's not won a slam. And she's lost these big matches to these three Americans, Keyes, Gough and now Anissimova and yet maybe to kind of segue into the next one we've got like Iguzfiontek who a lot of people and us included have been talking about her having this kind of really rough year and yet she might be the one that ends up getting the slam on Saturday it's kind of a fascinating situation that we're in now on the women's side Yeah, and I tried to sort of get to that with Savalenka in the press conference, but I think probably it was a question that needed to wait until after the US Open if she were not to lose that.
33:23I basically said to you, obviously this has been an incredible year. You're the best player in the world, but you haven't won a slam. And I get the impression that for her, a season without winning a slam is a failure or at the very least a disappointment. Now, obviously she has one more chance, and I suspect she would fully back herself to win the US Open, But I do just wonder really deep down how she views this season so far with those three pretty tough Grand Slam losses. She started talking about how she... It was very Rafael Nadal. She talked about the race and how she'd qualified for the WTA finals already, which obviously is incredible.
34:00She is clearly the world number one. But she's not going to be satisfied. If she doesn't win the US Open, she's going to be really frustrated. and I do wonder whether that might become a bit of a barrier for her to get over now. Puts a lot of pressure on New York, doesn't it? Every time she's in one of these matches, the most recent history is not of her holding the trophy. And she has a past pattern of having trouble getting over barriers. So she's got a lot of work to do. I think it seems like, I would say more emotionally and mentally, But I do think she needs to look at how she's playing these big matches tactically.
34:42I mean, you can't hear that from the team. They've got to be kind of looking at some thought. Go back and study the films deep in the final set against Keys. To me, she gets so stressed looking that I'm wondering if she's able to think properly about what's coming up next. I just feel like it gets cloudy late in these matches and she's not making her best decision. Could there also be an element of with big hitters and dominant power players like Irina Sabalenka, is it too easy to think, well, if I just play my game, you know, it's the tennis player trope, isn't it? I'm not going to think about the opponent.
35:22I'm just going to play my game. And presumably that's true to the nth degree with somebody like Irina Sabalenka. She will think if I play my game and execute, tactics don't matter because I can hit them off the court. Is that more of a trap for her than for different types of players? Perhaps, because I think she felt like her power could just take her to wins all the time. But then you think what she's done. We talked about it earlier, adding certain shots. So this becomes more decisions that she has to make, how she's going to play. When is she going to play the drop shot? When is she going to try a slice?
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36:01When is she going to maybe move to the net? So her learning to make smart decisions late in these huge matches can improve. I saw it improve with Navratilova. You know, she was a player that really struggled dealing with pressure late in big matches until she won here for the first time in 78, and then she went on to win 18 total singles majors. I'm not saying Sabalinka's going to do that, but I see certain similarities in their physical nature, their power and their emotions can sometimes get the better of them. I was just going to say, obviously Sabalenka, she's got a history of not winning a lot of big matches.
36:45Her conversion rate isn't great. But actually, she's maybe been a little bit unlucky in terms of the players she's met in those matches this year. I'm thinking like there aren't that many ball strikers like Keyes and like Anissimova who do have that smooth power that can even rush her. And there's no one that defends like Coco Goff. Now, obviously, like these players are in the draw and she could run into them. But it does feel like a little, like it's been just one after the other of these sorts of players that can really trouble Sabalenka, But if she's going to win the major title, she's going to probably have to learn to deal with those players.
37:32But I think it has been interesting how the specific matchup seems to have actually favoured some of those players against San Belenco. Just finally on this one and on Amanda Anasimova before we move on to talk about Yigus Fiontek. Like, today's win for Anissa Mova and the fact that that now makes it four different American women in the last four major finals made me think about the incredible points you made, Pam, when you appeared on the podcast during the French Open. And obviously, you were talking in the context of Amelie Maresmo being a tremendous disappointment in terms of representing women's tennis and being a taliswoman for women's sport.
38:18But you talked about how in the US, women's sport has been uplifted and given an equal or close to equal platform. And I just want to make, you know, correlation isn't causation, but it doesn't feel totally accidental to me that there's suddenly this crop of incredible depth and women that have fantastic belief and have had inspiration before them that they all talk about. Coco Goff talks about Serena Williams, doesn't she? And all of them talk about the inspirations that they've had and seen on TV. Yeah, the lineage of great U.S. women champions in tennis is tremendous. And the impact of Billie Jean King and the movement towards the dialogue in women's tennis has been since the early 70s.
39:06We can be equal. We should strive for equality. We have power. We have agency. And I do think, you know, I mean, look, we had some lean times at times, but, I mean, look at the men. It's been since Roddick in 2003 at the Open. So I think it's quite incredible. Pagula must be kicking herself, though, being the one who didn't win it. But you think about that U.S. Open final. It was actually great quality. And I'm just so entertained by what's going on in women's tennis. Not so much from a, I mean, some from a U.S. standpoint, but just by this craziness of, we're going to have nine straight different Wimbledon champions.
39:47The fact that Svantec is started, seated eighth, ranked fourth because of her final in Bad Humberg, two in the race, could win her first Wimbledon. And then, I mean, all these stories are so rich. And then on the men's side, you know, we got great stuff going on as well, but it's the same people time and time again competing. Which one do you like? They complement each other. That's why this sport is distinctive on the world stage because we bring it together, both genders, and having just come from the mixed final, it's a gift, and other sports are trying to imitate tennis. Yes, Pam. Yes, Pam.
40:26Yes, Pam. Yes, Jam. I love the way you're, like, caressing Jam. I know. It's very lovely. No, it's like a stress ball. Yes, exactly. I forgot my, I've been having a pen and paper and I'm missing it right now, but I got jammed. You don't need it, Pam. Yes, I do. Second semifinal, Iga Svantec against Belinda Bencic. 6-2, 6-love, not much of a match. It was one of those matches, David, where Iga Svantec looks like she's on some sort of deadline, like she's in speed with Sandra Bullock and Keanu Reeves. I don't think that's a reference that Matt understands Have you seen that film? I have actually Yeah, on holiday with my parents Did you enjoy it?
41:11Yeah Good movie But you know what I mean If you have to stay on court for more than an hour and ten minutes or whatever it was You're going to explode That's what it felt like Like poor Belinda Bencic I think she was physically compromised today Perhaps overawed by the experience I think it's really tough that they played yesterday like the whole rhythm of the slam suddenly changes Schiontek's more used to that of course having been in this situation more I really felt for Bencic there but it was like she was thrown in a tumble dryer it felt like Yeah I think that's a good description and the other thing is that they've just come on court after this tumultuous two and a half hour epic that the crowd have needed a break from because it's so hot out there and look I realise that's the same for both players but it just feels like that stuff doesn't bother Iga Svantec.
42:04She comes out and she plays the ball and my word, there is no front runner in a match like her. The last few years, I mean, in fact, I don't think since Steffi Graf I've seen a player hit the front in a match and just keep going and make matches kind of, well, I don't want to say boring because she lights them up, but she makes them irrelevant as a competition. and the moment she gets into that mode, I'm not quite sure how you reel her back in. And her distribution looks good, her footwork looks right, she feels like she's got her margins right. I mean, what are you seeing that's different with her, Pam, on grass than previous years?
42:45Well, I think a lot of things have come in to make her play this well on grass this year. I think the fact that she lost before the final at Roland Garros started her mindset turning towards grass. We already mentioned earlier in the pod about all the matches she played in Bad Hamburg. So she was able to get here. And I do think the atmosphere of that club outside Hamburg, because I heard it from Donna last year, it's a very relaxed, perfect week if you want to play matches. But I'm trying to think of a comparison back in the States. It's, you know, maybe the way Connecticut sometimes in New Haven, like 10 years ago, if you wanted to play matches in a relaxed setting, and oftentimes they would go on and have really good U.S.
43:35Opens. I think that week was crucial for Sabalink to have some belief on the grass court. Look, she was a junior champion here, right? But I don't think she'd been able to, with all her success at Roland Garros, I don't think she'd been able to ever really start the grass court season with belief and on the right foot. And I do think Wim Fassett has had good experience with his players on a grass court. And it's not just the player having belief on grass. I know you need to have your coaches know the nuances of grass. And I think Fassett does. I remember when Igor Svontek was at her absolute best a year ago, a couple of years ago, a lot of players were kind of asked, what makes Svantec so good and I remember the word that kept coming up was intensity and I feel like that was that was what defined this match today because it was just relentless like she just came out playing great and Bancic as you said was struggling she had this hole cut in her shoe didn't she because of this toe injury that she's got and look Bancic was absolutely not at her best today but there's just no let up from Svantec and I think that has happened a bit at times in this year she's lost some of that that kind of intensity has maybe been replaced by a bit of stress on court quite frankly she's used that wording hasn't she i yeah lost intensity yeah um and it was there like she was just awesome in this you know her serve is she's cranking it up 117 118 miles an hour which seems pretty big to me for her a lot of return winners that word david uses distribution I think is a great one she's spreading the court really really well and yeah I think I think she's maybe more susceptible on the grass as well when it's early in in the tournament you know when she's not quite so sure on her footing when the ball's skidding through a little bit more like now she's playing at the back of the court on that on that very dry patch and I don't know it just feels like she's a lot more confident now with her movement as well and And, you know, I think of this tournament, I think her most susceptible match was probably McNally in the second round.
45:47And, you know, that was early in the tournament. But, yeah, absolutely. I also think the point, actually, that Matthew made to me earlier is that freshness, like, just mentally in terms of, like, she's not won as much during the clay court season. So she's actually, like, been off sometimes. you know if you think of these two week events now she's gone the last couple of years she's just been on and on winning and winning and winning like literally no breaks where she's kind of gone on the grass now and yes she was disappointment after Roland Garros of course there was but it also meant that she was I think a bit fresher far less far less sort of under the spotlight she was she was out of it a little bit more she went to Bad Homburg she found her form there and it's all just clicked and it was the Collins match where I thought she can win Wimbledon and I didn't know whether it was going to be this Wimbledon I still don't but I just really had a realization that Shontek can play on this surface and we've seen it in every match since then as well it was another one of those quite locked down press conferences from Shontek I get it she's got a final today to play in in two days time um but there were two very revealing lines there was one question I think from Eleanor Crooks of the Press Association have you surprised yourself with this run here and reaching the final she just said yes I've surprised myself like it was just perfect you know like no further detail needed like big time yeah and the final question actually I think from from Matt Futterman of The Athletic asking her to kind of pinpoint what she's actually enjoyed about playing with on grass not just sort of learn to tolerate or learn to deal with but actually learn to love or enjoy about playing on grass and she said there's no time to overthink you have to play on instinct a hundred percent the time's taken away and I think that is playing right into Sviontech's strength at the moment.
47:56Her shots look more compact to me. I think she had time to kind of get her grass court because listen if you come in with the same long shots through the whole clay court season you're not going to do well and I just look at her now and it just looks so in sync and I'm telling you this is we've seen other players in the past. Sampras struggled his first few times coming here, believe it or not. And he didn't feel confident. Agassi didn't even come over. There's actually been a lot of players that didn't understand grass. And then once they do, so look out world. Iga Sfriante can play on grass.
48:34Now Pam, you're clutching jam there. There was not one mention in today's press conference yet again of strawberry pasta. But I'm here to keep strawberry pasta alive. Oh wow, I'm hungry. Really? I have some. All right. I have some homemade strawberry pasta. It's incredible work. Let's pass it down. This is... Is this for all of us? This is macaron struscavkami. Oh, wow. Made by official medic of the tennis podcast, Felicity. I have forks. Do we have to eat it now? I think... I'll have it. I mean, I'm going to have some now. I think it would be a shame if you didn't give it a go, David. I quite like the look of it, actually.
49:20Can I have it with a blondie chaser? I mean, yes. Fork, David? Should I eat the blondies rather than the pasta? No, please eat the pasta, Matt. Significant work has gone into this. This hasn't been in the sun all day, has it? No, it came in a thermos. Okay. Lengths were gone to. I'm struggling to open it one-handed. Anybody?
49:44Thank you, Pam. You're welcome. I'm genuinely intrigued. I would like marks out of 10 I can give you a percentage Yes please I think it's horrible I really don't like cold pasta Have I ruined your best day ever?
50:06I'm not into that Yeah not for me That is not nice I mean I'm not judging it from a sort of Yeah don't want to yuck anyone's yum You know, if you like it, good luck to you. Do you like it, Pam? Did you say Pam or Jam? Pam's cracking on. I'm scoffing it. I'm starving. Do you want some more? Give Pam a blondie. Okay, can I have a percentage? Can I have marks out of ten? Six and a half. Oh. Six and a half says Pam. I mean three. Sorry about that. I'm not into that. Yeah, like two. If I was desperate, I'd have it. But I'm going to have a blondie. I quite like the pasta, the plain pasta. It's when the strawberry gets involved.
50:56You know, I've done more cooking this Wimbledon than I have ever. And I like combining things. And I can see why Ega likes it. I think Pam has a more sophisticated palate than us, probably. Okay. Great work, Catherine. Great work, Felicity. Yes, thank you, Felicity. for bringing them into our lives. For yulking everyone's yulking. Who's going to win the final?
51:24Well, I have to do a reset. I have to kind of look at a few things. The unpredictability of recent champions kind of points to Anna Samova. But when you go on paper and you look at somebody who's been perfect in major finals so far, it's hard to look away from Svantec so I think I would have to if I had to bet I'd go with Iga but I wouldn't be surprised at all if we had another stunner the 13th seed lucky number 13 and they look I know everyone's digging out this uh juniors footage of them playing in the junior Billie Jean King cup final and that's super fun but they haven't played on It's crazy.
52:07And that is a fascinating element to this final, isn't it? Matt, when was the last time that happened? Oh, even Matt doesn't know. He's working on it. I'm working on it. Okay. Well, I don't think Fernandes and Raducanu had played. I could be wrong, but it's like two really top players to have not met. They're the same age and have been around for five or six years. But, you know, Anastomoba had time off. They come from different regions. their favorite surface is different so by the time you deal with everything it can happen, it's like the luck of the draw if you remember at our live show in London a couple of weeks ago I actually like an hour before the show started realized I'd made an absolute mess of my first slide I do remember that which was a gag to do with recent Wimwilling Champions beating Veronica Kudomatova I thought it was in the first round but it turns out Kraychikova actually beat her I think in the or I think maybe Vondroszva beat her in the second round and Krejcikova beat her in the first round.
53:09So suddenly it was like, oh God, the slide's wrong. I'm going to have to come up with something else. Well, there's this weird thing that Igor Strzok beat Polina Gudematova in the first round. So actually it kind of has... You're trying to rescue that moment retrospectively. I'm trying to rescue that bit that was really, really bad. I think it's interesting that Svjantek has played some big hitters here, you know like she played collins she played towson she plays samsonova you know like she's been tested against that kind of game style i just don't think any of them do it as well as anisimova um
53:45i think i think sviontek final sviontek as well you know like so often in major finals she's played really really well she's had one tight one right against Mukova but otherwise she's been she's been pretty dominant in her major finals and the way she played today you've got to think she'll be able to get Anisimov moving and out of her strike zone but kind of logic was telling me that Sabalenka would beat keys in Australia as well and sometimes a player's just on a roll and there's just a bit of magic in the air. A bit of blonde magic. I think, look, Anissimova has to try and take big advantage of the Sviantek serve.
54:34I think Sviantek has served well this tournament, but that second serve I still think is a little bit vulnerable and if Anissimova can get in the rallies, get in the points that way, then she needs to kind of render Svantec's ability to move her redundant really by just taking charge I think. I think it's helpful for Anisimova that there's going to be a clear game plan and strategy I think and if she can execute it she's got a shot. I think Anisimova's team needs to remind how long it's been since she's won a tournament And how many times Svantec in the 13 months has looked like the best player going into, say, semis and finals.
55:20And something's happened. Today, obviously, Bencic was compromised. And I'm not sure we can really tell given how far Bencic's quality dropped from yesterday, the way she won in 6-6. So I just think you hang in there, you battle away, you hit your shots. and then just remember she hasn't won a tournament in 13 months. Is her first win going to be Wimbledon? Could be. It's one match away, but it's something to just keep in mind. Okay, we're going to have a quick look ahead to tomorrow and the men's singles semifinals, but first, but first Pam meets a blondie. Pam, we need your takes on the mixed doubles final.
56:07I'll do that. I'm not going away. I'm just having a piece of blondie. Well David, our mixed doubles connoisseur Yes You can give your takes on the mixed doubles final first While Pam eats a blondie Yeah, no problem at all Sam Verbeek and Katarina Siniarkova Beating Joe Salisbury and Luisa Stefani 7-6, 7-6, two tie-break sets Proving that Katarina Siniarkova and anyone Is the best team in the world I'm wondering whether that is the truth now Because they're a new pairing They are not experienced as a pairing And yet they just looked fantastic I mean, you know how much I love watching Stefani. And I thought that she and Salisbury were going to get the job done.
56:48And the first set was a tie break. Really, really close. Second set, Bacon, Siniarkova went ahead by a break and actually looked like they were just going to roll through that second set. And it was a break back. It became a really close encounter in the second set as well. Just a really good contest in an absolutely full stadium. It was just brilliant to see that there was an atmosphere and that, you know, Wimbledon does come out for the mixed doubles. I think that they I think they got the timing of this one right as well to put it after the two singles matches. I prefer that, to be honest, than sticking it before.
57:24Sometimes it's going to be quite interesting to see how the doubles over the next couple of days over the final weekend goes. I would imagine it will do pretty well. But I really enjoyed that personally as an occasion and a crowd turnout. And I mean, the quality looked good to me, Pam, but you'd know better than me. I was thoroughly entertained. I called the match back to the States with Jason Goodall. And I'll tell you where they played their best tennis. All of them was in the first set tie break. There was three of the last four points of that tie break. It was just your typical doubles, quick hands, little cat and mouse, like long exchanges.
58:02The lefty, Burbiku, I'd never seen before. play he's kind of new on the scene he had this charismatic infectious energy a couple of times Sinaiakova even though Sinaiakova excuse me is the best in the world she gets a little down and she got a little down when she dropped serve in the second set and it was her big lefty Dutch partner playing with her for the first time kind of lifted her back up her spirits and it was a great match we were kind of happy it was in straight sets though six and six was fine that There was no match tie-break at Wimbledon. We would have just been starting the pod. Will they get a US Open mixed doubles wild card?
58:44No, they're not. I don't think so. I think it's only last year's winner I think is going to get one. You don't think Sini Arcova, even if Sini Arcova kind of picked... Guessed. I mean, that's ridiculous. I'm sorry. If you win Wimbledon and you don't get an invitation when they've got literally the half of the field as wild cards, I mean again I'm looking forward to this event Because it's going to be fun And loads and loads of big names But if you don't have the Wimbledon champions in it Yeah but what if Sinjakova Would rather be playing singles the week before In the lead up tournament I don't know I guess with the money you're right She's going to want a wild card But they've got to draw the line 16 teams I think it's going to be kind of fascinating People are upset I get it It's worth a try At the Open They didn't have the slot.
59:33They haven't thought of this kind of thing with night sessions. They really don't have the time for the mixed doubles to stand out at all the way it can here. Are you okay with it being on the honour roll and them getting the same trophy that everyone came before them had? I think that's where, I don't want to put words in your mouth, David, but I think that's where you have any, not that this isn't going to be fun and engaging. I can't wait for it, but that's a joke. That is a joke for it to be on the same honour roll and to not even have the Wimbledon champions in it. As someone whose name is on honour rolls, are you okay with that?
1:00:10Whoever wins that ton of prize money on national TV, yes, it can go up on the honour board. Because you know what? You could see Alcaraz. Who's Alcaraz playing with? Help me. Oh, my God. I mean, that's not tomorrow. Emma Navarro, right? No. I'm going with Yannick Sinner. Yannick Sinner. Raducanu. Oh, that's right. That's right. I got the Emmas confused. And the Emmas have a couple of good partners. But can you imagine, like, go back at the last 25 years and see the names up on that honour board. And what would be wrong with having Sinner, Alcaraz, Djokovic? That'd be great if they went and beat the Wimbledon champions along the way.
1:00:48That'd be great. It's the format. They're not even allowed in it. It's the format that I have a big problem with. Like, I know they've already shortened, like, the mixed doubles format. You know, it's not the same as it used to be many years ago. So, like, where do you draw the line? Personally, I draw the line at sets of got to be to six, you know, for me. But then they wouldn't, the names wouldn't play if it wasn't a shorter format. It's, yeah. It's a conundrum. It is. That's my best word I've ever used in all my years on the podcast. It's a conundrum. Pam, we need more words from you because we need your mediocre scoop on Novak Djokovic's practice for our preview of tomorrow's men's semifinals.
1:01:31Well, I think everybody kind of the word traveled. He had originally booked one to three with two Wimbledon practice partners that they hire men who play futures or probably mostly futures level. So he was going to practice with two of them. Then he pushed the practice back three to 430. But then the practice partners, because I walked over there and got the scoop, they were notified on their group text that the practice partners were not needed anymore. Now, he could have still gone out with one of them on his team or one of his many coaches, feeds and balls. But it was a natural day off, right?
1:02:08He hurt himself. He needs to get treated. It's stinking hot today. Donna took a day off last year before a semi. Why can't Novak Djokovic? I mean, to me, it was always on the cards that he probably wouldn't practice. But everyone's trying to find him, but nobody saw him around here unless you all heard something. He loves a bit of drama, doesn't he? Just to keep us all guessing. But I think Pam's right. I just, my guess is, I mean, he is dialing it back in a lot now, isn't he? And how much he plays. I even remember the latter days of Ivan Lendl's career that the commentators would say that Lendl doesn't need to do training blocks anymore.
1:02:51He just needs to top his fitness up, you know. And I think Djokovic is in this stage where he'd rather be fresh. He'd rather be, you know, up for it the next day. And that day off, that's really interesting about Donna having that day off, I think, before her big match. and yeah, I mean look, I'm hopeful that that's what it is and that it's not, oh dear, that the fall caused an injury which of course is a possibility. First up, Centre Court 130 is Taylor Fritz against Carlos Alcaraz. Second up, Yannick Sinner against Novak Djokovic. What's happening in these matches? David, you go. Well, I think it's going to be Carlos Alcaraz against Novak Djokovic in the final.
1:03:35That's awesome. That would be unbelievable. So that means you think Djokovic is going to be pretty healthy tomorrow. Well, yeah. I mean, look, I'm assuming full health. If he's anything short of full health, he's not beating Yannick Sinner, unless Yannick Sinner is way short of full health. But I'm assuming they're both healthy enough to play a good level, and I just think Djokovic might well come out with one more all-timer. Well, I'm going to talk about the least talked about member of the four because he's from the United States, Taylor Fritz. I think Taylor did a great job after the clay court season.
1:04:13He was disappointed with Rowling Arrows. He went back to California. He went to Carson where the USTAs had their West Coast training camp. That's where both his coaches, Paul Anacone, who lives out there, was able to join in person at the pre-grass court season training block. It lasted a few days. that's where the reset started to happen. I talked to Paul. He's become a really good friend because he's kind of been a mentor in this combining the coach and commentating role and how to balance everything. And he gave me some insights. And then once Taylor got over here, of course, talk about someone who's played a ton of grass court matches.
1:04:49Nobody's played more. And he got through that tough first week. What a rough draw. So obviously he's fourth favorite. But at some point, a U.S. man is going to win a major again. I don't think it's going to be here, but this crop, it's going to come from this crop of guys. So that's Fritz, TFO, Sheldon. Tommy Paul, Sheldon. I think Ben Sheldon proved a lot this tournament. He likes big occasions. He's not afraid of – So you think one of them is winning a slam? I think either Fritz or Sheldon I would bet on, but I think Tommy Paul is getting injured a little bit too much. I think Francis, emotionally, I'm all in for Francis, but I just feel like Fritz and Shelton are the two most likely.
1:05:37You all right there? Did you get a bug? I got a bug. It's in my ear, no big deal.
1:05:45Do you want to play the percentage game, Pam? Even people that don't want to play are forced to play. Fritz, 30%. There we go. 30, 70. against Fritz. And then, I mean, I want to know how... I feel like it's really hard to go with the Djokovic thing until we know. Assuming he's okay from that fall, how do you see it? 45 % Djokovic. Slight underdog. David, Matt, anyone? Well, look, I understand that. I mean, 45 % is the logical number, I think, for Djokovic against Sinner right now. I just think that Djokovic is going to find something tomorrow, and I think he's going to rock Sinner to his shoelaces.
1:06:34And I think he's going to win. Percentage for Fritz? I'd agree with Pam. 30 sounds about right to me. I'd go a bit lower than that. How low? 25. Oh, you're picking over 5 %? You'd come at me for the percentage game, Pam. Hey, listen, I can think of 124 players on the men's side that would love to have 1 % chance tomorrow. You're the last four standing. The one I can relate to the most today that played on center court was Belinda Bencic. I lost one of my three semis 0-2 or 2-0 to Groff. It's a horrible feeling, but we know that with the men's serve and their big game, it's going to be close sets.
1:07:21I can't wait Me neither We'll be back tomorrow of course At the end of play to review all of it We have some shout outs Today and some mascots I can't wait These special folk Are going to get a Pam Shriver Shout out Mascot we have Rory Are you a Gilmore Girls fan No but I'm a Rory McIlroy fan Let's assume that Rory is a fan of all Rory's. Rory is named after Rory from the Gilmore Girls, which I watched for the first time last summer. And I know Mary Carrillo is a huge fan of. I was texting her. I was sort of live texting her while I was watching Gilmore Girls. I know I'm a late adopter, but what a show.
1:08:06So we have Rory and we have Douglas. Douglas is his pedigree name, as befits a Scottish dog. But in truth, he is known to all the world as Dobby. So we have Dobby and we have Rory. They're owned by Hamish Fraser and his wife Christy and this is a special surprise 50th birthday present for Christy. How lovely is that? They live in Sydney, Australia. Both dogs have just turned five. Rory is a boar doodle which is a border collie poodle cross and that's just like Christy's previous dog Jasper. She mostly just loves to be loved and can rarely be close enough to you just like Bo and me, Pam. It just got that visual.
1:08:54That's Pam's golden retriever that loves me a lot. She will bark loudly to protect us and the children and enjoys chasing her bull till she drops. Now, Dobby is a Westie, like the dog Hamish had as a child, which is lovely. Thanks to his sister Rory, Dob is a little more active than many Westies, but he still has a fierce independence streak and could be a somewhat grumpy Scotsman like his father. Hamish and Christy are coming to Wimbledon on Ladies Finals Day. Wow. As part of Christy's 50th birthday celebrations and would love to come and say hello. Please do, Hamish and Christy, come up to the roof.
1:09:34This is where we'll be. We'd love to say hello to you. And Christy's birthday is in two weeks' time, so at the time of writing this. So happy birthday for them. Hamish also said you did a shout-out for Paul Owen from Brisbane a month or so ago. and he's an old mate from when I lived up there. I used the shout out as a reason to reconnect with him. Hopefully a beer when he's in Sydney next. Look at all the people you help connect. It's awesome. Thanks Pam. Thanks Pam. It connected us to you. Yeah, without the pod. Yay Mary, right? Yeah, we'd not be sitting with you right now if it wasn't for the podcast.
1:10:11Hello Mary, if you're listening. We've got pictures here of Dobby and Rory and that's a good dog, isn't it? Oh my goodness. Wow. beautiful Hamish Christie please do come and see us hello to our mascots hello Phoebe hello Maisie hello Roger hello to our executive producers and top folks Greg, Chris and Jeff over to Matt for some shout outs while I finish my strawberry pasta quite like it we have Caroline from South Buckinghamshire oh do you know where that is Pam? it's just it's in the south
1:10:52Caroline Wozniacki Caroline Stahl Caroline Garcia Dollar Hyde Thank you We're flying Look at this It's four That's good It's enough isn't it Buckinghamshire's not Not far from here Thank you And Caroline's been listening Since 2016 Good work Caroline Pre-Matt Yep Can you imagine a time Pam Don't Matt was kind of on the scene He was around He was earning his stripes. You got PS and you got PM. Yeah. Thank you, Caroline. We've also got Sarah Yizer from Washington, D.C. Hello, Sarah. Like Sarah Rani. Like Sarah Saribas-Tormo. Very good. There's a British player, Sarah... Goma. There's another one, though.
1:11:40Borwell. People always do Goma. Sarah Fornishari, a tennis player from Washington, D.C., who's the tournament director, the first tournament I played in in the last, and she plays tennis every single day, so the two Sarahs are neighbours. What did we know about Sarah? Sarah says, I decided to try out to be a ball person for the City Open this year, and I got selected. Highlight of my life so far. Apologies to my wife, our wedding is a solid second. Start hydrating now. I'm desperate to go to Washington, D.C., and it feels silly to go not when the tournament's on, but also I think I might die a slow and thirsty death in the heat of Washington.
1:12:25Well, today felt a little late like that. And I think Anissa Mova's signed up to play. Has she? Although, if she's won Wimbledon, might be a withdrawal coming, who knows. Thank you, Sarah. And finally, we have Gautam Sharma, but this shout-out is for his wife, Paula. Gautam is from New Delhi. And Paula is from Malta. And Paula's birthday is on the 11th of July. Tomorrow. Which is tomorrow. Well, actually, it's in an hour and a half. And I believe Paula likes to listen to the pod in the morning. So she's going to get this shout out on her birthday. Paula, happy birthday. Wow, wow. And Paula Smith, really good doubles player back in my era.
1:13:10That's one Paula. Paula Bedosa. We would be Paula-less if you weren't here, Pam. I fear. Thank goodness for you Pam. Well Bedossa yeah. Happy birthday Paula. That is such a lovely thing for your husband to do for you. And Gautam says your show truly brings her joy. She learns a lot about the world of tennis from it. And I can't wait to see her face when she hear you guys talk about her. Gautam that is lovely. Paula it sounds like you got a good one there. And happy birthday. And the day after my oldest son turns 21. So happy birthday George. but that's not a shout out so we can't it's not a shout out because he doesn't listen does he Pam?
1:13:50not yet keep working on him I will Pam you're heading home tomorrow to celebrate said birthday we'll miss you thank you I miss you all it's great to start my Wimblin with a live show and it was great thanks for coming and I look forward to seeing the blonde tips that'd be something else full blonde you'll have to keep it for New York so that Pam gets to see it in person deal well maybe full blonde by yeah before Blonde yeah before Blonde come on let's go Pam thank you so much it's been an absolute treat to have you really has thank you all for watching and for listening we'll be back tomorrow after those men's singles semi-finals not before 7.30 sure not before 7.30 but as always look across our channels we'll let you know when we're going live best thing to do subscribe to the YouTube channel you can get an alert when we're going live But basically, as soon as those matches finish, check in.
1:14:47We'll be here going live in this incredible spot talking about tennis. What could be better? Folks, it's been a joy. Enjoy. Enjoy this. I'm bringing my hat hair. Enjoy Matt's brown hair for these few more hours. And we will see you and speak to you tomorrow.
From the publisher
Catherine Matt and David were joined by special guest Pam Shriver to analyse two completely different women’s semi-finals and look ahead to tomorrow’s men’s semis.
In Part 1 we discuss the gripping match between Amanda Anisimova and Aryna Sabalenka, a tight, three-set tussle that felt on the edge until the very last point. We talk about where the match was won and lost, whether Sabalenka got her tactics right, and what Anisimova did to carry herself over the line.
Part 2 (40m44s) - Anisimova will meet Iga Swiatek in the final, who was utterly dominant against a seemingly compromised Belinda Bencic. We discuss Swiatek’s progress on grass and how her own success has surprised her at this tournament. Plus, a brief detour to sample some strawberry pasta.
In Part 3 (55m56s) we review the Wimbledon mixed doubles final and Pam and David disagree on the status of the US Open mixed doubles to come. Then we look ahead to the men’s semifinals, do some more punchy percentage predictions, and Pam gives us her scoop on what happened to Djokovic’s scheduled practice.
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