Live from Wimbledon Day 3 - Gauff, Krejcikova classics light up SW19

37:06And he missed a couple. He just missed a couple that he wasn't missing. Went into the tyre breaker, and he still had his chances, but he didn't take them. And he'll regret that, I think. I mean, I think where Sinner looks less convincing is on the forehand side. Low down, it's a little bit of the Coco Gauff. You know, he's got this sort of flicky topspin forehand of his own. And when it's working well, when he's timing everything well, he can come over it and he can hurt you still. But he was miscueing quite a few. And before we cracked it last year, that was a problem here. Do you remember how sort of set back in my belief in the annex center I was by that semi-final?

37:51Yeah. Was it semi-final, quarter-final? Semi-final. He played against Novak Djokovic here two years ago. He played in the back-to-back semifinals, didn't he? Yeah, 2023. 2023 was the one that was really one-sided, and his forehand just fell apart. Now, OK, a lot's happened in three years for Yannick Sinner, and he was improved the next time and won the title next year. But, you know, the Gremlin's still there, isn't it? It's like with Igor Shvantec saying, just because I won last year doesn't mean I'm suddenly... I've solved all my problems and I'm now a natural born grass quarter like it's just I don't know it's just a reminder of that and he was asked very pointedly about the forehand in his press conference but I'm not sure I've just seen the clip I'm not sure who the journalist was they said you know your forehand's not looking at its best at the moment he said yeah I know it was steely yeah I'm look I'm far less concerned.

38:53I don't think that forehand is a problem on the grass, technically. I don't. I think he's OK. He hadn't won Wimbledon until last year, but he'd beaten Alcaraz in 2022. He had pushed Djokovic to five sets. Like, his results at Wimbledon on grass were not Coco Gough level. I do think he... I think it's rust still. I think he's still trying to find the feel again. And maybe he's slightly underestimated the task of playing Wimbledon without a grass court event. You know, you've seen Djokovic do that for years and make it look easy. Very different to last year though, Matt. I mean, a year ago he came into this tournament without playing any, I don't think.

39:38No, he played Haller and lost. He played Haller. Yeah. Lost to public. But I remember him coming. Maybe that's it then. And, you know, Dan Evans said that it really can sap you that a match like that that he had at Roland Garros, where you just lose all the sort of minerals in your body almost, you know, just through feeling so rubbish. But the first three matches of last year, before we played that Dimitrov match, he was barely losing two or three games a set max. and now we've had him go into a fifth set in the first round and then in the second round he's needed two tyre breaks. It's certainly not there yet.

40:21I mean, OK, maybe that is rust, but... I think what I'm saying is I don't think it's a grass issue. I think he might be in a place where, you know, as well, he's made... He was very open about it. Roland Garros is the big goal and I think we've been viewing Roland Garros through the lens of Yannick Sinner in the heat and that's obviously a big talking point but what about the lens of having to come back and play another tournament when you know that you can't play Roland Garros for another year and you can't complete the career slam for another year I think I think that might have taken some something out of him a little bit and put him in a slightly different place and you have to rebuild the motivation and I think everything had been geared towards Roland Garros for this year you know playing that clay court swing which I think now he looks back on I think maybe he played too much but he was he was gunning for Roland Garros and he didn't get it and he's had to he's had to course correct and he hasn't had the matches and I'm not totally surprised that he's not quite at his best yet but you know he's he still got through in straight sets against a guy playing very very well which shows just how good you have to be to to try and beat him and yeah I just I don't know I know he's got Jenson Brooksby next but I like I like his draw in the early stages here still it's yeah yeah the draw looks good I think I I don't feel confident diagnosing what it is whether it's rust or all the things you've just said kind of stepping back and looking at it through a different lens those are all interesting that that was an interesting point you made whatever it is I don't think he looks right I think he's irritable I think the there's definitely a sort of tension in his team um they they are definitely like on edge Yannick needs something from us all the time they're standing up after every point which I know is their vibe they're not a relaxed team while he's on court but it just seems to have a bit of extra edge to me could dissipate as he grows into the tournament definitely and as we've seen today he's good enough to win in straight sets against a whole lot of good players without playing his best but next one could be interesting how interesting Jenson Brooksby guy do we think it could be Jenson Brooksby guy is Matthew by the way and Matthew did think that Stefano Sitsapas was beating Novak Djokovic so take this with a pinch of salt but he does rate Jenson Brooksby out of 10 Matthew out of 10 what are his chances to win the match if they played this match 10 times Matthew thinks Jenson Brooksby is winning 50 % of the time Blimey Well he didn't win the last time they played I can tell you that So I guess he's due this one But Brooksby went through today And was in the interview room And he loves grass He loves it He said you know The moment I get on this surface I feel this is my best surface And he reached the third round A few years ago I mean he's you know he's had a lot of things not go so well since then you know serious injury bam you know a lot's gone a lot's gone on in his world um but he looks in quite a good place just at the moment and he's so unorthodox if he could play his brand of tennis and play it well he could be another one to make things just a bit tricky he is awkward there's not many players like him onto it.

44:03I mean, I do think he could get just... I don't think he serves good enough. Yeah, dismissed. If Sinner's on, I mean, he may just wipe the floor with him. Only five times out of ten, though, David. Well, yeah. Good stat. Very quickly, before we move back to round two matches, Flavio Caballi finally completed his ordeal of a round one win over Mariano Navone today. It was held over from yesterday. He's got to come back to Moro now and play round two. It could have been a lot more of an ordeal. He saved six set points in that fourth set and one of them with one of the best backhand passes you will you'll see this tournament.

44:45It looked like he was he was gone in the rally and the set and he somehow found a winner and yeah even even the final point he he stole with some defense and Navone missed the smash. Like, you know, carried over to an extra day and yet this could have been a lot worse still. Like, this was a very tricky match. I felt like he was way too passive. You know, it was a 31-shot rally towards the end. I mean, that's exactly what Navone wants. He's the clay court grinder here. Caballi is the explosive guy who should be ending points much quicker than that, I think. But, you know, he needed to just get into this tournament, didn't he?

45:27And he did do that. He said, I hate my life afterwards. It was the most wonderful, charming on-court interview, wasn't it? It was introducing Flavio Caballi to the Court 3 crowd, I think it was. I mean, look, he reached quarterfinal here last year, didn't he? I think people here do know about Flavio Caballi, although Hugh Grant did fall asleep in that match, didn't he? It was Kabaly Djokovic that Hugh Grant fell asleep in. He threatened to either eat or hit his dad. We're not sure which. He definitely threatened to hit him. Right. But it did sound a lot like eating. And I think Jenny Drummond in the interview thought he said eat originally.

46:12It was wonderful. It was very charming the way he pronounced his words. Yeah, totally charming. Back to the round two matches. is Felix Auger-Eliassime comfortable against Dino Prismic on court 1766375. He's got Michael Zhang next, who, heck of an effort qualifying through to round three. Good player, Zhang. Quite like the way Auger-Eliassime celebrated that win today over Prismic. You know, we've seen some results from this year. Beating Djokovic can go toe-to-toe. And actually, he was getting dominated, really, from the baseline. and in the end it was one of those where the rallies look great and the movement looks incredible but Augie Eliassime just has that much more stick on his shots and intent.

46:57There's a real look of meanness about the guy in his hairstyle and in the way he's hitting the ball. And once again it's underlining why shaving your head before a ground slam is a good move. What do you advise to women? Well, I suppose they could shave their head. Yeah, sure. Yep. I'm fine with it. Okay. Advocating for it. We've only got the one stat, and it's Carlos Alcruz won the title when he did it. By accident. Felix, oh no, we've done Felix. Medvedev, Daniel Medvedev, slightly circuitous route for him against Daniel Merida, 3-6, 6-3, 7-5, 6-2. He's got Brandon Nakashima next. Is Medvedev flying a little bit?

47:47under the radar. There were a couple of grouchy moments in this one. Yeah, he wasn't having a great time, but his serve looks pretty good, which is big for Medvedev. Actually, Nakashima is suspended overnight. Oh, crikey. You've got some bonus Nakashima tomorrow. And bonus Struffy. Crikey, I knew, of course, that match has been extended over two days. Yeah, because Nakashima, there was some chat in the press room about maybe that might get moved to court one and finish. They've kind of stopped doing that a bit more, haven't they? And it does mean that if Nakashima wins, he will play five days in a row because his first round match got suspended as well against Pennington Jones.

48:34That's tough. So Nakashima fans have had their fill this tournament. Where are you? Let us know. Marton Fuchovic defeated injured Leonard Tien. And this was actually quite a tough scene. Tien's so obviously injured, he was getting a lot of attention on his abdominal area in the middle of this match. He was flying in the early stages. Look, Fuchovic's a good player, did all the cliches about it being tough to play an injured opponent and all of that. Did do a bicep kiss after the match, which when you've got a so obviously injured opponent... I think an ale. Yeah, right. Oh, right. so that's why they were palpating his and he had the doctor on as well and yeah he was just like he was just eating like plain bread oh yeah so Fuchovic not one of those I didn't want to win it like this yeah yeah it's all yeah the bicep kiss was too much wasn't it I think so Joel Fonseca beat Injured Jesper de Jong and didn't do a bicep kiss well done Fonseca I do wish players would let me know if they're injured before I do things in the predictions.

49:52You feel jilted somehow. You feel like you've been stitched up when you see them getting medical attention on the court. Anyway, probably not the reason he has to be on one today. Joel Fonseca through to round three without dropping a set. So that's back-to-back third round here. He's got Roman Sifuelin next to what an inexplicable tennis player he is. Totally round-toe. He can look awesome sometimes, can't he? This is where I can do a newsletter stat, and you're going to be surprised, but it is about Roman Cefiulin. I thought I saw Cefiulin on your laptop screen earlier, and I thought, OK. Well, he's part of a bigger stat.

50:28OK. He's the inspiration for the stat. Do you know, I think we've done about, I'm going to say about 700 newsletters over the course of the tennis podcast history. I don't think Roman Cefiulin's ever come up in one before. is it about the scorelines of his matches so far yes let's not okay let's say no more sign up for the newsletter is what we will say okay uh it's so it's a fueling next and there's a potential novak djokovic round four just which felt such a long way off when the when the draw came out i I wasn't like getting really, really hyped and excited about it, even though they just played at the last Grand Slam.

51:14It was one of the best matches I've ever seen. And we're suddenly close to it, close to it again. And I think, I actually think Djokovic, I think he'd like another go at that. I think so too. On grass, you know, like he loves beating these younger players, doesn't he? And, you know, let's not forget, he was close to getting that done in straight sets, even on the clay. I think he would back himself. Yeah, I think so too. But I have been impressed with Fonseca. Yes, same. Did Rafael Hoda win? I think that might be suspended as well. Is it suspended? He's disappeared from my screen. He's two sets to one down.

51:55Okay, so we'll come back to that one tomorrow. Hubert Hercatch and Tommy Paul won today. Very handily setting up a round three match between those two. and the last men's result to mention from today Dan Evans, David ended his professional tennis career with a round one doubles defeat alongside, he was partnering Henry Searle who's the young British player that he's been coaching so a really poetic end for Dan Evans and it was emotional out there and I was still at the flat when this was on had it on my screen I'm watching the interview and I can see in the background David Law standing in amongst the crowds.

52:38David can stand at the back and still see everything, which is a real superpower here at Wimbledon. And it made me emotional that you were just there for the last moment. I wanted to see the last little throws of his career. And they were struggling. I mean, they were up against a good doubles team there. and then suddenly they got a break back right at the end and the place just erupted. I mean, it was court 15. You know, this is a small court, really. There aren't many seats. But the gangways were just full of people trying to crane and get a view. And it didn't last long. They got broken again.

53:24And Evans and Sully had been up and energetic and high-fiving all the way through. And then the moment the match was over, Evans just sat down and just sort of looked at his racket in a sort of nostalgic kind of way. And realised, well, you know, my career's over as a tennis player. And he gave an interview to Lee McKenzie. He was very emotional in it. But he knows he's got no complaints. In the end, after all the roundabout way that he went in his tennis career, he kind of rung out the last drops. And, you know, he did some stuff, I'm sure. I know he regrets along the way to some degree. But he's had a good career, very good career, given where he sort of started and ended up.

54:17But, yeah, he didn't quite expect it to finish on court 15, he told me. But look, it's done. Everybody knows I think he should have had a wild card into this tournament. I think a lot of people do. But, you know, there we are. It's been a good run. And I think he'll be a good coach. Looking forward to Dan Evans, Dan Evans, the coach. A few bits of news to cover. Quite big news, actually, before we get on to tomorrow's order of play. First of all, picking up from last night, We said when we were on air last night that Serena hadn't been into press yet and we would eagerly anticipate what she said in press, sort of debating whether or not to take what she would eventually say in press with a pinch of salt.

55:02Didn't need to worry about it. She didn't come to press. Good decision not to wait for the Serena press before the live show. You're like, should we delay the live stream to get her quotes in? We made the right call, folks. She didn't come to press. And apparently this was reported by Tom Kershaw in The Times. He had a quote from Jill Smoller, her agent, saying Serena tweaked her knee at the end of the first set and was therefore excused from her media obligations by Wimbledon and the WTA medical teams. He had the scoop that apparently crutches were brought to the medical room. She didn't end up using them.

55:42She left unassisted, I think was the wording. But that is the further development from the Serena story today. And it puts her participation in the doubles with Venus into doubt. So that is where we are with Serena at the moment. The big news from today, broken by Ben Rothenberg in his sub stack, bounces the WTA finals, which we knew wasn't going to continue in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia beyond this year, which was the final year of the three-year contract that the WTA had with the region, it is not going to complete the duration of that contract. I think by mutual agreement, the final year will not be staged in Riyadh.

56:26It will be staged in Indian Wells for 2026. This is a one-year deal, I think. Don't know yet at this stage whether there's potential to extend that if it goes well. but look I know there's an argument and a very good one for taking these events to regions of the world that don't already have tennis events and that was a justification that was oft used to justify it being in Saudi Arabia I just feel such tremendous relief that this event isn't going to be in Saudi Arabia anymore for lots of reasons that we have discussed at length on this podcast most of them very heavy and sort of humanitarian.

57:13But aside from anything, I'm so relieved that it will be, well, not aside from anything, but one of my prevailing feelings is just the relief of knowing it's going to be somewhere where there's an appetite for tennis and the crowds will show out, the stands will be full, there'll be an atmosphere. I'm looking forward to watching it already. and I used to go into that, well, I've been going into that tournament with a bit of dread in the past few years and I personally feel a lot of relief around this news. Yeah, look, I think there's definitely a point to be made about kind of swapping Saudi money for Larry Ellison money.

57:57We maybe don't need to fully get into that now, but I think from an event perspective, excuse me the WTA has placed a kind of ceiling on just how premium the WTA finals can feel because they've taken it to a place in Saudi Arabia where that marketplace and that that genuine like embedded culture of women's tennis isn't there and yes there's absolutely something to be said for trying to grow the game and and take it to different parts of the world but I I always found it tough that the premium event was in a stadium that would hold about 3 ,000 or so and would often not be full. And you compare that to the ATP, who've had the events in London and in Turin over the past several years, and that fan base has been there, and the event has felt huge and elevated.

58:51And I'm excited that the women are hopefully going to get that chance this year, and those players will get that. And bigger, better crowds, outdoors as well, which I'm kind of always in favour of. Yes, Matt. I think they're going to be playing in the day because by all accounts it gets pretty chilly in the night in November in Palm Springs. Matt Futterman was like, bring your coat. I think that is going to be properly cold in the evening. So it's going to be interesting how they do the scheduling, but it sounds like it's going to be nice conditions during the day and I'm sure they'll take advantage of that.

59:30And yeah, like a huge sense of relief and excitement, actually, for what that event could look like. OK, the order of play for tomorrow. Day four, continuation of round two action here at Wimbledon. Centre court starts at 1.30 with Karolina Pliskova against Igor Svyontek, on tech second on and i love this choice for a center court match might have been a surprise to some but mateo berrettini against art of feese i love that being on center and finally it's katie mcnally taking on elena robachner now i've got to tell you neil and pat roberts are in the house tomorrow and i won't expose them live on the pod but they had people they did want to see and they They got people they wanted to see.

1:00:21I was genuinely tight before the order of play came out. It was a big moment when the email came through. How many wildcard Brits are going to be on Centre Court? Zero. Neil and Pat, I hope you have a wonderful day. I'm a bit disappointed we didn't get, you know, the arsy text from your dad about the order of play. He did still find a way to be a little bit concerned about Verrettini feasts. I mean, legitimate, I think, two people who've had a lot of injury problems and, you know, there is a small risk there, but I'm with you. They put Feast out on Court 15, was it, for his first round? I can't be surprised by that.

1:01:00It's quite an upgrade. You'll probably get a Tesco deal. I thought, like, Feast would carry a bigger court by himself than that at Wimbledon. You know, but, you know, he's not really done masses here in the past. and I guess Berrettini as a former finalist and played that great match the other day. And as a combination, I do think that's a really good centre-court choice. If Fies is fit, it's an opportunity for him to introduce himself to a centre-court crowd. And I was asking Gohan what he thought of him as a sort of grass-court prospect. I remember him having the one run where he beat Hubert Hercatch and then he ran into Alex Dimonor and pushed him, you know a couple of years ago um and he actually he really thinks that he's got potential on grass I mean this is Goran Ivanovic I realize he's his coach maybe he wants to big him up but I also think he's a pretty straight shooter about things and he's won Wimbledon he's he's reached the final many times he said the thing is and this is not something Goran would have ever had to do you know nobody did this back in the day he said that fees can slide on grass and he says there's only a handful of them that can do that and actually now it's really important to be able to so um and i'm really fascinated to see if he's if he's fit playing against a guy who really knows what he's doing on the surface in beratini who's been to the final himself it'd be fascinating so it's a heck of an order of play and i think because i think both women's matches have real intrigue to them as well you know like obviously spiontech has beaten plus give a six love six love in in in the past in a in a 1000 final and I think just you know there's such a gap there in terms of like movement I could I could imagine Svantec exploiting that but that's Svantec at her best and is she going to have a second set laps again if it can't risk for get her serve going and her and her flat ground stroke so that's interesting and then McNally we've been so impressed with and it was in was it the second round last year where she where she got a set off Svantec and And, you know, I definitely think she could cause Rebecca some problems too.

1:03:12So, yeah, lots of intrigue. Yeah, I think that's a fantastic order of play. I'm gutted we don't get Neil's reaction to having to watch Jan Choinsky. But I'm pleased that they'll have a good day. Just as well, just another quick shout out for Tennis Podcast Meets. In light of the fact that Krishikov has had this result today and Katie McNally has set up this match against Elena Rebecca which I asked her about. She says I'm not one of those players who minds knowing the draw and she loves a big stage. We got to spend 15 minutes with both of those two. Well worth going and having a listen if you haven't already and if you're a friend of the tennis podcast.

1:03:55It's like you're talking to my dad. Saw him earlier. He hadn't listened. Come on, David. Get your act together. He's going to be so annoyed that I've outed him. He loves tennis podcast meets, but he says he's been so busy with stringing recently and he can't listen to podcasts while he's stringing. Oh, really? That's interesting. He has to concentrate so hard. OK. That was his defence anyway. All right. Fine. Yes, you're right there, isn't it? Like two very different approaches to knowing your draw and everything. Like I think Kraychikova, even before her encore interview today, said to the interviewer, do not tell me my draw.

1:04:29Yeah. It's going to be almost 48 hours before she wants to know that. And that was quite a feature of our interview with her. Yeah. Great promo, David. You can come again. I didn't want my loitering to get a waste. Number one court tomorrow. This was a bullet dodged for the Robertses. Katie Swan against Madison Keys. Might be a belter. For a lot of people, that's their... Look, each to their own. Yeah. Some people will be thrilled. second on Valentin Royer against Alexander Zverev some people might be thrilled and finally Jakub Menshik against Grigor Dimitrov everyone would be thrilled this is a good one it's good isn't it I thought that that could have gone centre as a sort of nod for Dimitrov much as I love the fact that Beratini and Feast are getting the nod there I think kind of just sentimentally it would have been nice to give that one to Dimitrov but you know it's still a great court isn't it so it's one of the two main show courts number two court tomorrow the return of the blazer presumably for taylor fritz or one of the blazers they're everywhere david's wearing one um i think that's a jacket actually david it's just it's a suit it's a very nice suit jacket is that good or i think it needs to have actually i don't know what You've raised an interesting point.

1:05:57What is the difference? Does it need to have a sort of public school style embroidered emblem on it to make it a blazer? I haven't got one of those. No. Good job, because if you did, you might look like Nigel Farage. Okay. Well, that's what... Here's the famous picture of him on the boat, and then he looked like Alan Partridge. So all in all, David, this is better. I'm not wearing it tomorrow. I better wear something else. It's just a suit jacket. Maybe I can influence Taylor. Maybe I can wear something that he copies me. Probably not. He doesn't really know who I am. Tailored Fritz. Vicky came up with that.

1:06:35Big fan of that. So the return of the blazer, or the return of Taylor Fritz looking sheepish in the blazer. He's got Patrick Kipson tomorrow opening up number two court. Rafael Jodar comes back to complete his match against Pablo Carreña Busta. Third on court two tomorrow, Amanda Anissa Mova against Sophia Kenin. if you're in tomorrow and you want to see Matt Roberts that's where he'll be what time's that going to be on depends on how long Fritz takes that's how tennis works David mid afternoon I know but I'm going to be commentating on Feast against Berrettini at that time I think that's going to be on then Francis Tiafo your guy David he's got Jan Choinski oh I can make it back for that one that is back to back with Alice I'm over and Jasmine Paolini against Victoria Golubic is last on court three Adrian Manorino and Alex de Minor open number three.

1:07:28Sorry, last on court two for Paolini Golubic. Number three court. De Minor, Manorino. Joint Eala is second on. Yes. Into that. That sounds good. Very, very into that. And the winner of that would face the winner of Pliskova Svjantek. It's a very consequential part of the draw. Flavio Caboli is back to take on James Duckworth. and we have Linda Nozkova against Camilla Osorio last on number three court Dennis Schneider is on court 12 tomorrow the resumption of Brandon Nakashima and Jan-Leonard Strouf will that match ever end find out on court 12 tomorrow Jacob Fearnley is on against Jaume Munar there Kim Birralin, Saronica Steyer Alexander Bublik, Otto Wirtinen and Arta Ferry open up court 18 that is where we're sending Matthew I'll go with Matthew we think Vertanen might be might be his his thing so we're going to find out tomorrow we'll let you know I thought you were coming with me for Manorino we've got a clash I'll go and see Ferry and Vertanen on my own then you can jump between Marta Kostchuk's also on AT we all want a bit of Matthew time Yui Le Hetschke he's never going to be up at 11 o 'clock

1:08:47Touche That is the truth What time does breakfast finish at the hotel though Matthew? Quick as you like Somewhere around the 10 o 'clock We'll come back to him later Venus and Serena Williams aren't on the schedule tomorrow I thought first round doubles had to be completed tomorrow I don't know I presume rules can be bent and broken for Venus and Serena Williams. We will keep you posted, folks. I think that is it, though, for tonight in terms of the tennis. We do, though, have to say hello to Phoebe, who is stretching out here in this photo I'm looking at in a very Billie Jean-y way. Two late nights in a row.

1:09:31Phoebe has the right idea. Yes, Phoebe. I woke up this morning, trudged into the kitchen. David took one look at me and said, do you think you need to go back to sleep for a bit? I did do that and I said yeah I think I do I did that in a concerning way you make me sound no it was you were absolutely right I hadn't looked in the mirror at that point it was not about that it was just you just looked miserable and like you needed to go back to bed you were trying to force yourself in for first ball because it's the FOMO and you don't want to miss anything yeah but you very clearly needed to not be awake here we are i took my inspiration from you phoebe thank you very much hello to bodie maizey and roger our mascots hello to our top folks and executive producers greg chris and jeff matt let's have some shout outs two shout outs tonight none of them greg allensworth we have katherine willerton oh hello katherine hi katherine same church same pew oh and katherine is from Birkdale, Merseyside.

1:10:41And Catherine says, which normally people haven't heard of, but this year it's the host of the British Open Golf. I was going to say, I thought it was... Which Matt is going to. I am. Look out for Matt in the Birkdale area, Catherine. Yep, day one. Will you be seeing the sights? No, it's an in-out job. Okay. Because I'm moving... Well, like Chicago. Yes, indeed. I'm moving flat the next week, so I've got some packing to do, but a quick trip to Birkdale. in between. My pre and post slam planning this year has been all over the place. What are you up to after the US Open? Sleep. Fulham. We're sending him back to bed after the US Open.

1:11:24Oh, a Catherine. We love a Catherine. We do. My dad met Matt Futterman earlier and my dad multiple times in conversation referred to me as Cathy and I could see Matt sort of just glitching a bit like who's who's that who are we talking about so I wonder what Catherine's preferred shortening is let us know Catherine like you we'll go with me is Katie McNally a Catherine think she might be let's go for that thank you Catherine and finally we have Susan Ramsey from Falkirk like Susan Lievich

1:12:10very good isn't there a Susan Lama Lammons Lammons I'm thinking of the goalkeeper for Man United maybe is he Lama I don't know anyway you can say Susan yes Susan says my dad introduced me to watching tennis Wimbledon was always on at the start of the school holidays in scotland and so if we weren't watching in tv we were listening to it on the radio on holiday in a caravan i still love tennis on the radio one of my earliest earliest tv memories susan says is watching connor's mackamro in 1982 and then susan has put in brackets i'm even older than david that's my second wimbledon final memory actually susan and i always remember it's first time I'd ever seen Jimmy Connors play in a final and I love the way he would just clinch the fist and you know it's great and the crowd would be up it's five setter, it's a brilliant match then they played two years later and McEnroe cleaned his clock Well Susan I assume or I hope you'll be listening to David commentator on Art of Feast against Matteo Berrettini tomorrow on BBC Radio.

1:13:30Yep, I'll be there Who's your co-com? Don't know doesn't matter it'll be brilliant regardless Susan Catherine thank you ever so much for being friends of the Tennis Podcast if you'd like to become a friend the link is in our show notes and that also gets you access to the Tennis Podcast Meets where you can hear us chat with Barbora Krojikova Katie McNally and plenty of others folks that is it for tonight thank you so much for listening thank you for joining us on YouTube thank you for joining in the chat if you did that sorry to our non-British listeners who have no clue what Tesco is. Look it up.

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