Poland win United Cup, but is Swiatek’s form a worry?

11 Jan 2026 · 1 h 30 min · 34 chapters

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In short

The episode reviews the just-finished United Cup (Sydney) and then pivots to early-season form ahead of the Australian Open, plus other warm-up tournaments (Brisbane, Auckland, Hong Kong).

Guests

none. The hosts are David Law and Matt (plus occasional references to other commentators/editors, e.g., James Hansen, Jim Curio, Pam Shriver, Nicholas Massoud, and “James Hansen the athletics editor”).

Key claims

  1. Poland won the United Cup 2-1, but Iga Swiatek’s form is a worry for Melbourne because she’s losing “near-rival” matches in a recurring pattern.
  2. Hubert Hurkacz’s comeback run and the doubles team of Katarzyna Kawa and Jan Zielinski were decisive for Poland.
  3. Swiatek’s issues are framed as stress/control breakdowns (often resorting to higher-risk hitting) plus a serve drop-off.
  4. Belinda Bencic’s tournament run (9-0) and Coco Gauff’s turnaround vs Swiatek are major context.

Notable examples

  • Poland final: Kawa/Zielinski beat Bencic/Jakub Paul 6-4, 6-3; earlier Hercacz beat Wawrinka 6-3, 3-6, 6-3; Bencic beat Swiatek’s teammate Igor Swiatek? (actually Igor Svantek mentioned as losing) 3-6, 6-love, 6-3.
  • Swiatek losses: to Coco Gauff and then to Bencic (including discussion of Gauff’s 8-set winning streak over Swiatek, with four straight-set wins).
  • Brisbane: Aryna Sabalenka beat Marta Kostyuk 6-4, 6-2 to become heavy favorite for the Australian Open.
  • Auckland: Elina Svitolina won 6-3, 7-6 over Wong Jin Yu.
  • Hong Kong: Alexander Bublik reached top 10; Lorenzo Musetti lost another final to Bublik.

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Tennis Stars' Private Jet Experience

0:45 to 3:01

Discussion about Carlos Alcaraz and Yannick Sinner's arrival in Melbourne.

“Those two just having a laugh in South Korea, just playing their own tier of the sport.”

Recapping Andy Murray's Near Misses

3:01 to 6:44

Exploration of Andy Murray's career highlights at the Australian Open.

“to watch challenges on the plane i can guarantee you're not going to want to watch heated rivalry on the plane.”

United Cup Recap: Poland vs. Switzerland

7:05 to 8:17

Review of Poland's victory over Switzerland in the United Cup.

“So on with the show and we start with the United Cup that is just finished up in Sydney at midnight local time, of course.”

Iga Swiatek's Performance Analysis

8:17 to 10:34

Analysis of Iga Swiatek's recent performance and its implications.

“Because, Matt, speaking of near misses, Poland have had some in this competition.”

Challenges Ahead for Swiatek at Australian Open

10:34 to 14:00

Discussion of Swiatek's recent defeats and pressure heading into the Australian Open.

“We know that that defeat in the Olympic semi-final was one of the most crushing of her career.”

Analyzing Swiatek's Current Challenges

14:00 to 18:39

Understand the patterns in Swiatek's recent defeats and her struggles against top players.

“And yet that's kind of ended up being in her DNA because of how well-conditioned it is.”

The Rise of Bencic and Her New Serve

18:40 to 24:48

Explore Bencic's recent performance and the impact of her new serving technique.

“And sort of that summer spell, she served well.”

Bencic's Potential and Slam Prospects

24:49 to 28:05

Evaluate Bencic's chances in future tournaments and her evolution as a player.

“And I just found that odd how it disappeared for Svante over the course of the match, I suppose.”

Analyzing Player Performance in the Australian Open

28:05 to 30:14

Learn about the strengths and weaknesses of players like Bencic and their potential in the upcoming tournament.

“still feels like unlikely to me that she would win the australian open um partly because of the former Marina Sabalenka, by the way, today in Brisbane, which we'll get to.”

Hubert Hercatch's Impressive Comeback

30:14 to 34:58

Discover how Hubert Hercatch is performing after injury and why he could be a contender in the Australian Open.

“for using her protected ranking to enter USO for mixed doubles with Alexander Zverev she's had a period away from the backhand list but I'm sorry it's undeniable.”
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Conditions and Challenges at the United Cup

34:58 to 37:54

Explore the impact of extreme conditions on players during the United Cup and its implications for upcoming tournaments.

“He'd be the third best player in the world.”

Reflections on Climate and Tennis

37:54 to 39:05

Discuss the juxtaposition of climate issues in tennis and the lifestyle of top players.

“and that kind of just held the heat in it.”

Irina Sabalenka's Dominance in Brisbane

39:16 to 42:00

Analyze Sabalenka's recent performances and her potential as a favorite for the Australian Open.

“Welcome back to part two of today's pod where we should definitely talk now about Irina Sabalenka, who has won Brisbane again, who has nailed herself on as if she needed nailing anywhere.”

Marta Kostiuk's Promising Performance

42:00 to 44:10

Explore Kostiuk's recent strong performance and potential future.

“as a real light bulb discovery for me, I did not know she had that sort of power.”

Kostiuk vs. Sabalenka: The Ceremony

44:10 to 46:32

Discuss the emotional ceremony between Kostiuk and Sabalenka post-match.

“We were braced for things being awkward after the match.”

Miscommunication and Its Impact

46:32 to 49:44

Analyze the miscommunication between Kostiuk and Sabalenka and its fallout.

“about Sabalenka being more powerful and that situation I don't I don't know whether Sabalenka was fully across the revision that came out afterwards.”

Daniel Medvedev's Return to Form

49:44 to 51:58

Examine Medvedev's performance and whether he is back at his best.

“acknowledgement that he was gone, really.”

Medvedev's Evolution and Future

51:58 to 54:32

Discuss Medvedev's evolution as a player and his potential future.

“it was definitely able to hurt opponents again.”

Alina Svitolina's Success in Auckland

54:32 to 56:00

Review Svitolina's title win in Auckland and her performance.

“because that's the only way we'll truly know if he's back.”

Svitolina's Experience Shines in Final

56:00 to 57:00

Discussion on Svitolina's impressive finals record and performance insights.

Mazzetti's Journey and Top 10 Debut

57:00 to 59:00

Analysis of Lorenzo Mazzetti's progress and challenges in finals.

“Heading to Hong Kong prepare yourself for heartbreak Lorenzo Mazzetti has lost another final.”

Challenges of Winning Titles

59:00 to 1:02:50

Exploration of the psychological aspects of winning in high-pressure matches.

“And because he's such a wonderful watch, isn't he?”

Concerns Over Injuries Early in the Season

1:02:50 to 1:03:40

Discussion about the increase in injuries and their impact on players.

“I don't think he had a medical timeout, but he had some treatment on it.”

Wildcard News and Player Updates

1:03:40 to 1:10:02

Latest updates on players like Stan Wawrinka and Jung Chin Wen regarding their Australian Open participation.

“Yeah, seeing players injured now and hearing about withdrawals and long term chronic issues and young players, which we'll be talking about in part three, it's it's a bit of a buzzkill and I'm and I'm worried about it.”

Legal Maneuvering in Tennis

1:10:02 to 1:13:21

Discover the complexities surrounding the recent PTPA lawsuit and its implications.

“Now I'd say, David, my knowledge of sort of lawsuits, particularly US lawsuits, is not sufficient or substantial for me to really draw any major conclusions.”

Upcoming Tennis Events Overview

1:13:21 to 1:17:47

Get the latest on the WTA and ATP events happening this week, including key matches.

“As ever, the web of tennis authorities and infrastructure is sticky and complicated.”

Concerns Over Player Health

1:17:47 to 1:19:59

Learn about the worrying injuries affecting young tennis players and their impact on careers.

“Excellent stuff within the landscape of wildcards existing.”

One Point Slam and Australian Open Preview

1:19:59 to 1:23:56

Explore the unique One Point Slam event and the upcoming Australian Open festivities.

“And at first I thought, oh, I'll do some research.”

Engaging Newsletter and Mascot Greetings

1:24:00 to 1:25:04

Hosts discuss the value of their newsletter while introducing their mascot.

Excitement for Upcoming Shows

1:25:04 to 1:25:26

Hosts hype up the upcoming show featuring Roger Federer and Crowded House.

Shout Out to Lucia Carey

1:25:26 to 1:26:39

Hosts share a heartfelt shout out to listener Lucia and her tennis journey.

Discussion on Venezuelan Tennis Players

1:26:39 to 1:27:10

Hosts discuss the lack of prominent Venezuelan tennis players.

“and Lucia says I'd like to know if you know of any Venezuelan tennis players I only know of Garbine Muguruza being born there.”

Madeline Schnittke's Tennis Story

1:27:10 to 1:28:31

Hosts share a shout out to Madeline and her journey into tennis through the podcast.

“Home of the Bears, who had a big win last night in the very dying seconds against the Green Bay Packers.”

Final Shout Outs and Recap

1:28:31 to 1:29:12

Hosts conclude shout outs and thank listeners for their support.

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Transcript

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0:10Hello and welcome to the Tennis Podcast coming to you from Melbourne, Solihull and London for one final time before our daily Australian Open Pods begin on Wednesday, otherwise known as One Point Slam Day. between now and then David and Matt will be traversing the entire planet just like Carlos Alcaraz and Yannick Sinner in their private jet from Seoul David did you see the footage of them landing at their private terminal in Melbourne together trying to pretend that they'd had a you know a tough flight experience just like us but we all know that they'd just stepped off a private jet no no i haven't seen that uh i i never seek that out because you've painted a very good picture i reckon matt's seen it i've seen it yeah uh they they had to do the thing of being interviewed straight after a long-haul flight but i do have slightly less sympathy because of the private jet nature of their experience they were like oh i'm so tired so tired still sleepy like yeah yeah um good to have them in australia though they've really uh spent the last few days sort of encapsulating the entire landscape of men's tennis for us haven't they everybody else thrashing around for points in various parts of Australia in very challenging conditions.

1:50Those two just having a laugh in South Korea, just playing their own tier of the sport. It was like a computer game where they just unlocked a level that nobody else had access to, and that is the situation in men's tennis. at the moment yeah no notes brand sinker as aren't they really they just they come as a pair now um did was that was there a result from their match i don't know whether i saw a result oh i don't actually know the results seem to be bromance if i didn't if i didn't know better and this might just be my algorithm at the moment if i didn't know better i'd say both their agents have seen heated rivalry and given them a given them some instruction i think that's all of our algorithms guys yeah yeah i haven't seen it so i i have downloaded it because i heard it was good hang on hang on david if you didn't want to watch challenges on the plane i can guarantee you're not going to want to watch heated rivalry on the plane.

3:07Hang on, have you actually downloaded it for the plane? Yeah, well I've downloaded it as an option but then I also recorded Jaws 1 and Jaws 2 the other day which I haven't seen for about 38 years so I mean I don't intend to watch any of these things. I'm just, it just makes me feel involved, you know, part of it. What does, okay, yeah, I'm really excited David for you to be part of the heated rivalry discussion nothing would thrill me more i mean i mean frankly the discussion is very much happening tennis channel like in their official write-up of the event they said they are um sort of engaging in their heated rivalry an official account tennis tennis.com and part of the fun sort of social media content that the exhibition had them doing involved questions like what are you saved as in each other's phones things like this these are all very much do you think they understood those references no do you think they i think the people you know coming up with the event very much understood those references i would be shocked to my core if sinner and alcaraz have watched tea to drivery and are aware of it.

4:23Maybe they watched it together on their private plane. I'd watch it on a private plane. Yeah. Just not on a commercial plane, David. What if my neighbours are asleep? Then I can, you know, sneak in a quick 15 minutes. David, I wouldn't sneak in a quick 15 minutes. Okay. Maybe I'll start with challenges. Now that I've downloaded this, you know, maybe I can... Start with challenges can be your gateway drug and we'll see how that goes and take it from there. I don't know what to do with Jaws 1 and 2. Probably not on a plane when I'm about to go overseas, I suppose. I don't know why you've done that to yourself because you talk a lot about how genuinely traumatic Jaws was for you as a child.

5:11You don't like any of my shark jokes. No. Yeah. I don't know why you've done that. Quite big on facing my fears. well I'd suggest you watch Challengers on the Plane then David

5:27don't intend to go and see in Perth though so you know folks we suddenly have a lot to talk about in the tennis world we had a lot to talk about last night didn't we when we recorded our first tennis relived show of the year how long was it Matt it was 2 hours and 16 minutes for the final edit there were a lot of Andy Murray near misses at the Australian Open. That is how much content Andy Murray gave us to talk about. The theme of our show was, well, exactly as Matt said, Andy Murray's near misses at the Australian Open, kind of charting Andy Murray's career down under. Five finals is the most that any man or woman has ever played and lost without ever winning a final at that slam.

6:18That's an unfortunate record that Andy Murray has. Or, as we discussed in our intro to the show, an incredible record that Andy Murray has. He reached five finals at this place and ran into Novak Djokovic and Roger Federer, two of the greatest players of all time. So there was a lot for us to get our teeth into. We really enjoyed the show, despite all the reliving of trauma. And if you'd like to become a friend of the Tennis Podcast, you can do that at any time. If you'd like to become a friend of the tennis podcast at pet mascot level, then the deadline to do that is a week from now. You just have one more week left to get your pet as a mascot for an episode of the tennis podcast.

7:04You also have one week left to book yourself a guest editor spot or to take us on at predictions for 2026. So on with the show and we start with the United Cup that is just finished up in Sydney at midnight local time, of course. And it finished with Poland beating Switzerland, two rubbers to one in a really exciting final. We all have just watched Katarzyna Kawa and Jan Zielinski beat the seemingly unbeatable Belinda Bencic and Jakub Paul 6-4, 6-3 in the deciding mixed doubles to clinch the tie for Poland finally. Finally, that after Belinda Bencic beat Igor Svantec 3-6, 6-love, 6-3. That gave Switzerland the lead and it gave Belinda Bencic her ninth win of the tournament across singles and doubles.

8:04Then we saw Hubert Hercacz defeat Stan Wawrinka 6-3, 3-6, 6-3. That second set for Wawrinka described by David Law as heroic but pointless. And then, as I've just said, Kawa and Zielinski putting in an epic performance to beat Benzic and Paul and finally win the United Cup for Poland. Because, Matt, speaking of near misses, Poland have had some in this competition. Yes, I believe they may have had a match point previously to win the whole thing and just not quite be able to get there. I think that was against Germany, wasn't it? And it does feel like Poland have been one of the standout teams of the United Cup over the last four years or so.

8:52You know, they've really committed to it with Igor Sviantek there, starting her season, obviously backed up really well by Hubert Hercacz. And this year with Kawa and Zielinski as well in the doubles being absolutely fantastic. And it is a slightly odd feeling to have, you know, Poland winning the United Cup. And yet it wasn't Igor Sviontek being the total leader of that team, earning the most points, stepping in in doubles and sort of taking it all on and always winning the singles. It was actually, OK, she got some singles wins at the start of the event. But actually, it was the remarkable form of Hubert Hercacz on his comeback and that double specialist duo of Kawa and Zielinski that have ended up getting this done for Poland really, really impressively.

9:45And yeah, I wouldn't have thought that that would be possible for Poland if Iga Svantec was going to have the tournament that she would have for them to come out and win it. So it's a kind of strange feeling. I think nice to see Svantec at the end there. looking so happy and so pleased and so part of that team even without her own individual success in the last couple of days but definitely a few days that brings up a lot of questions about the Igor Shontek form heading into the Australian Open but yeah like it does feel about right that Poland have finally won the United Cup as you say. Yeah let's talk about the Igor Shontek of it all because she did look so genuinely happy just now to be leaving Sydney to have finally won this thing with Poland.

10:33We know what it means to her to represent Poland. We know that that defeat in the Olympic semi-final was one of the most crushing of her career. In fact, I think some of the most devastating Shontek scenes that we've witnessed have been at the Olympics. And just look at the support that Poland get at the United Cup. They've got nuns showing up. I don't understand the nun it's not for me but people seem really into it and you know she carries the brunt of that pressure doesn't she? bless you but her catch but she's bearing the brunt of that pressure and of course pressure is a privilege etc but you know it's a lot and she looked genuinely so thrilled and that was great to see and she's leaving with that happy feeling but she's also David leaving with the feeling of two consecutive, quite bruising defeats to near rivals.

11:32And that is unusual. There aren't many tournaments where it's even possible to leave with two consecutive defeats to near rivals. The only other one, really, is the WTA Finals. And if you're leaving there, it's at least the end of your season and you can put it behind you and go to the Maldives. She's now got to go to the Australian Open with that feeling. it's a strange place for her to be it is it is because Coco Goff really took it to her and then Belinda Bencic in sets 2 and 3 really took it to her and I mean look they played out of their minds I was really impressed with both of them and I think that that must be factored into any analysis of where Svantec is because it's not all on her racket you know there are sometimes you're going to play somebody who's going to take it away from you and those two I feel like did that but at the same time the very best players when they are at their best find a way um tweak something find a way to ride out the storm maybe find a level that even their opponent can't deal with you know and I realize in best of three sets that's more tricky but I think Sabalenka tends to find a way more than Svantec does.

12:54Svantec is the most incredible frontrunner. And we saw in her first couple of matches that she played at the United Cup, she just looked bang on it. You know, they're over so quickly. And I was very interested to watch her play against Coco Goff because, you know, theirs is an interesting rivalry, totally one-sided for years, and Goff couldn't even get a win um and then suddenly she gets one and then she seems to establish a bit of a blueprint of how to play her and she actually now seems to be playing her best tennis when it's against it's almost like it unleashes her and she stops worrying about the the fiddly bits she's got to think about on a server or forehand she just goes for it targets bits of Svantec's game and with power and rushes her and kind of takes over and and Svantec doesn't seem to have an answer to that really now um and meanwhile Bencic a player who's who's just not lost a match all week at the United Cup 9-0 that is extraordinary stuff um when she hits her straps it's it's a very difficult game to combat but usually you feel as though the very top players will just kind of not allow that well Svantec doesn't appear to have enough feel on her big shots to be able to totally trust them and you know James Hansen the the athletics editor was doing some analysis on on his his social media account of of what Svantec's trying to do with Wim Fissette and has been trying to do for the last year or so of trying to bring a bit of the variety back and not just have this all bad aggression that she had under Thomas Wyskowarski.

14:38And yet that's kind of ended up being in her DNA because of how well-conditioned it is. And so she is a bit caught on a hard court, I think, at the moment. Yeah, it's not the fact of her losing to Gough and Bencic playing out of their minds. It's the pattern of these defeats, I think, and it's a continuation of a pattern that we saw last year and we were kind of wary about being too alarmist about these sort of defeats that seem to these matches that seem to get away from Shiontek and crumble before her and our eyes because she won Wimbledon last year you know as we discussed in all of our various review shows she'd we think she'd have signed for last season at the start of it it was a good season for Iga And yet there was this slightly dark underbelly of defeats that looked like this, where once the match got away from her, once her opponent gets her teeth into the match, she starts malfunctioning.

15:47And her appears to resort to the default of hitting harder and taking more and more risk, the opposite of what we understand that her project is with Wimfocet. And it's becoming pretty maddening to watch because it's the definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. is the kind of proverbial definition of madness. And yet it feels like that is what we're watching in these types of matches. She still has matches where she looks absolutely awesome throughout and she's cleaning really great players' clocks. But these matches are happening and Shantek wants to be a Grand Slam champion.

16:34And this is a problem, Matt. It is a problem, yeah. And, you know, you use that word pattern. The pattern now is that it feels like when Svantec goes up against fellow top players, more often than not at the moment, she's not winning those matches, you know. And she always used to have dominant records over fellow top players. But that is something that has really changed in the last year or so. And I think it is because of what you describe in terms of these players are good enough now to be able to push her and make it stressful and create pressure. And in those moments, Shvante, caught between playing styles, is going down the route of hitting harder and harder and is doing it in quite a hectic manner and losing control of her game.

17:33And we've seen it on clay last year, even. We've seen it a lot on the hard courts. Oddly, the outlier now in terms of the last year or so was Wimbledon. And I do think there was something to be said there for a tournament where it did feel like the pressure was off quite a lot more. I know she faced opponents there in the latter stages who have since beaten her and proved to be in her category. It wasn't like she had a kind draw whatsoever with Bengtich and Anissim over there at the end. But neither of those players really showed up in those matches to anything like their best due to sort of injury for Bencic.

18:11And I just think total nerves for Anissimova in that final. But it is a problem for Jviontek now, like increasingly so. And I don't know. I don't know sort of how much time you give it, you know, like it's been with Wim Forsett for quite a while now. And these things don't seem to be improving. And I think the other thing that happened during Wimbledon was that she had a particularly good serving tournament. And she carried that on in Cincinnati. And sort of that summer spell, she served well. Unfortunately, her serve seems to have dropped off a cliff again. And it makes her extremely vulnerable and allows these other players, I think, to get into the match and get and be able to attack that shot.

18:57And that creates the stress. So from a technical point of view, I really think the serve needs to improve and get back to where it was sort of through the summer last year. And that would help sort of alleviate maybe some of the stress at times like it did at Wimbledon and Cincinnati. But I do think the issue runs deeper than that. And trying to manage these moments of stress better is a huge task for Ego Sviontech right now. And it feels like a lot of the field, not, you know, I'm talking mostly about the other best players in the world, have caught up to Igor Sviontek over the last year or so.

19:39You know, I think the gap between Sviontek and Sabalenka has grown. Sabalenka has sort of moved ahead and the other players have sort of slightly caught up to Igor Sviontek. Not enough sort of over the course of the season to counter her genuinely phenomenal still consistency across all tournaments. That's why she's still the number two in the world. But in sort of a lot of individual matches now, you feel like there's a lot more players that can beat Igor Svante than there were a couple of years ago. And it makes things tougher. The Goff matchup, I feel, particularly shows up, sheds a light on the problem with Igor Svante because A, Gough is loose in that match-up in a way that she doesn't seem to be a lot of the...

20:32Like, a lot of her serving and forehand issues do just seem to kind of miraculously evaporate when she's on the court with Shvante now. And number two, I think Gough knows that if she can hang in the rally long enough, Igor Shvante will make a mistake and nobody hangs in a rally better than Coco Gough. She makes balls. She makes balls that absolutely nobody else can make. I reckon she makes sort of 25 % more balls than pretty much anybody else in the WTA. It's that ridiculous. And yeah, she's like, okay, I'll rest on my positives and you're going to cough up enough errors for me to do this thing.

21:18And I'm comfortable in that dynamic. And yeah, it's slightly alarming to watch. It's eight sets in a row now that Goff has won against Svante. Four matches in a row, all of them straight sets. A total turnaround of that head-to-head. And it did sort of get me thinking about Savalenka's comment in that press conference after she'd lost to Goff in the French Open final saying, oh, well, Iga would have won. And, you know, I kind of sort of bristled at that at a time and thought, I mean, probably, but I wouldn't be so sure. And now, having seen the last few months play out, it does sort of feel like Goff has figured out how to play Svantec and maybe could have even done the same thing in that French Open final to Svantec to what she did to Sabalenka.

22:09And yeah, the way Goff's forehand holds up now in those exchanges is really, really notable. and she puts pressure on Shvontek in a different way. Yes, I think she does try to be a bit more aggressive, generally Goff, when she plays Shvontek, but she also shrinks Shvontek's court, you know, with her court coverage. And Shvontek doesn't have the margins to play with and can end up hitting out. But the thing is, she could have the margins to play with. She has such skill. We know she can put the shape on the ball and she can do She has the skill set to do what it, A, looks so clearly like she needs to do, and B, what she and Winfossette have told us is the plan for her to do.

22:57So it's sort of strange thinking about the Winfossette situation because you think, well, look, this isn't working, and yet it sounds like what he's telling her to do is the right thing. So either it's just not, you know, we were talking about it in the Andy Murray show yesterday, weren't we? You know, sometimes it's about who you hear things from with coaching. It's not necessarily about what they're saying. I also think it's more complicated, though, guys, just in as much as you try to establish variety, you know. Okay, so when? So when do you choose which shot? It's not as easy as it used to be.

23:36Just go in for it. Very true. But I think this isn't about variety, actually. This is just about slightly more conservative type of tennis, just not pulling the trigger on every shot. But when to do is the decision-making issue. Yeah, I just felt like today against Bengshik, she came out with totally the right plan. Like that first set was a really good set. Bengshik said it herself. She felt like she was playing well, and yet she was three love down right at the start. because Svante was hitting with height and spin and shape and control on her shots. Like she was being aggressive, but she wasn't being reckless with it.

24:18It was really good for Miga Svante, like really good. That tennis is so clearly still there for her. It's just she lost it and wasn't able to get it back. And obviously, like you said, David, Bengtich, I mean, whenever she puts on a Swiss shirt, is the best version of herself and was absolutely phenomenal. And maybe even if Svante could keep playing well, she still wouldn't have won this match. But she never managed to get that style of tennis back. It became played on Bencic's terms completely. And I just found that odd how it disappeared for Svante over the course of the match, I suppose. Let's talk about Bencic, shall we?

25:02Bencic has been Bencic has been awesome before Bencic has been awesome in okay not quite this tournament but the equivalent of this tournament she's been awesome at the Hotman Cup I think I once picked her at least to reach the final of the Australian Open in our podcast predictions off the back of some brilliance at the Hotman Cup I'm going to say 2019 could have been 2018 anyway is this different David don't know don't know um I mean it's awesome but the first week of the year how did I just think it's so hard to draw conclusions if somebody told me that Coco Goff wasn't going to be in the final throws of the Australian Open last year after the week she had at the United Cup, I would not have believed it.

25:59I do think it's exciting for Bencic coming in. If she plays this sort of tennis, she's absolutely a contender for the title, I think, to go really deep, or at least. I do think it's problematic if she runs into the very biggest hitters with her serve. But they've also got to play well. You know, I know it's not very satisfactory as a sort of conclusion but I think her form is exciting but I don't think you can draw conclusions that it's going to be different necessarily. The serve is an interesting point though isn't it because this is this is a new service technique that she's got going into a slam with it for the first time she sort of changed it after the US opened didn't she last year and I think and she changed it not to improve it but to protect her shoulders she was experiencing shoulder pain and that always worries me you know especially when it's one of these abbreviated motions then they're never pretty particularly pretty on the eye are they the abbreviated motions and yet and yet this seems to be working extremely well for her Matt it does yeah um you know I think one of the things we talked about at Wimbledon last year is that the grass kind of suited her her serve because she doesn't really have a easy kick serve that she can that she can hit it is it is much more of a slice serve so stays low skids through on the grass whereas I think a lot of times she's come unstuck in the biggest matches against the best players because you know the slice second serve is a little bit less reliable than the kick second serve and yeah just generally that shot has let her down if if the bengshik serve has leveled up then that is a point of difference going into this grand slam compared to previously and from what we saw at the united cup it looked like it has but i i do think the test comes at the australian open and right now right now it still feels like unlikely to me that she would win the australian open um partly because of the former Marina Sabalenka, by the way, today in Brisbane, which we'll get to.

28:17But she's playing pretty much as well as like anyone else. It's just that I would, you know, I would probably back Goff more in a slam because she's been there and done it. And I would even back Svantec more in a slam because she's been there and done it. You know, like that experience counts for something. So I'm very impressed with Bencic. And I think her name in the draw is going to be one of the first ones I'm looking out for like who's which top seed could she potentially just disrupt in in the sort of fourth round quarterfinal stage i i suspect i think she was she going to be ninth seed tenth seed something like that so yeah potentially a fourth round opponent for some for one of the the very top players which is interesting yeah and look she was brilliant but as i said she is normally her best self in these team competitions and i don't just mean billy jean king cup as well olympics you know when she puts on puts on that swiss shirt those colors she does seem to find something extra and i know that's such unsatisfactory analysis but but i haven't got anything else to go on.

29:30But the record speaks for itself. The record speaks for itself. A record playing for Switzerland is unreal. Yeah, it really is. And slams are different. They are. The very best players come with their very best stuff more often at the slams and find something. And she's got something more to play for than Grand Slam Glory and that is reclaiming her place on the backhand list. Maybe that's the fire in her belly. Or maybe she's already done it.

29:57sorry Maya joint oh is this official? yeah is that an announcement? that is that is how long was Maya joint on the list for? since Eastbourne last year she had a good run Benchik has served her sentence for using her protected ranking to enter USO for mixed doubles with Alexander Zverev she's had a period away from the backhand list but I'm sorry it's undeniable. I love that backhand. I love it. It is. It's why it was on the OG list. I came to understand it this week watching it. I watched a lot of Belinda Bencic from a very lovely position in the RAC arena in Perth and it's a real connoisseur's game, Belinda Bencic is, isn't it?

30:47It's not in your face. Like it's not brute power. it's not I don't know, everything about it is quite subtle it's you know the timing and the taking the ball early, it'd be quite hard to explain to a non-tennis fan why she's so good but I I've always understood that she's really good but I really really came to appreciate the joy of watching it this week so there's just such a smoothness Matt I get it but I do think that's quite brutal for poor old Maya Joint coming into her home slam I know yeah she barely got a racket on the ball against Fionta let alone a backhand right seeing those seeing those like we had the matchup to compare right we saw the damage the Bencic backhand did it's in a different league it has to be on the list okay well other than poor old Maya Joint being rubbish um anything else from the united cup that's unfolded over the uh the last few days that we would like to pick out to talk about david i'd like to just throw a word in the way of hubert hercatch who has just been fantastic i mean this guy couldn't play for six seven months because of a knee surgery you know i mean the thought of coming back on a on a knee that you don't know how he's gonna react under pressure and playing like that I mean he beats Zverev he beat Fritz he's beaten Vavrinka today he's serving so well and I mean he and I know I know that it might not be the same under best of five sets and look I would probably expect that I would probably expect him to hit a wall at some point but still absolutely sensational run of performances and And the manner in which he did them as well felt a little bit different to what I've seen from him before.

32:54Perhaps just being fresh and being back has been exciting and stopped him worrying. Nicholas Massoud has spent a lot of time being a sort of coach with no coaching to do, hasn't he? Because he's stuck by Dominic Thiem through his extended absence and he's stuck by Hubert Hercatch. It was really lovely to see him back on the sidelines. Yeah, in Polish colours, as they do at the United Cup. That's always a bit jarring. That is an odd element to the United Cup, isn't it? Yeah, I love it. And Jim Curio was saying in commentary how, I think it was a year ago, that her catch switched racket and was very much hoping for one that would give him a bit more pop on the ball.

33:41and yet then comes his season where he's injured and isn't really able to get to grips with that or play enough matches with it. He's obviously stuck with that racket for his comeback and Curia was saying he feels like her catch suddenly looks a lot more comfortable with that racket, like he spent a lot more time with it and they were, you know, pulling up the stats on his sort of reps on the ball in terms of his forehand, which has always been his dodgy shot. And he was way up, you know, he was able to hit that shot with a lot more topspin and control generally through this tournament and obviously serving out of his mind.

34:17So that made him so dangerous and he's going to be one of the most dangerous players in that Australian Open draw based on the form he's had. No one is going to want to draw Hubert Hercatch in the first couple of rounds. For him, slams have always been a bit of a problem for him. His slam record compared to his tour record is quite disappointing. But whether he can now take this to a slam is to be seen. But yeah, props to him because he really was incredible this week in a way that I just was not expecting at all so soon into his comeback. If Hubert Hercats could have a good forehand, he'd be the best player in the world.

35:05And unable to get over the line. He'd be the third best player in the world. Yeah, third best player in the world is really up for grabs. He's just beaten that one, hasn't he? Quite handily the other day. Yeah, absolutely. Taylor Fritz looks to be struggling, doesn't he? Yeah, I mean, it looks like he's going to play the Australian Open, but he lost to Tsitsipas, lost to Hercatch. You know, he was competitive in both those matches. is he's not sort of a shadow of himself or anything, but he's not winning them. And he's expended a lot of sort of knee canister on them. And it doesn't sound like he's got a lot of knee canister to spare at the moment.

35:51Knee canister is an amazing line. People get the idea. Anything else to mention? Belgium? Do Belgium deserve a little mention? Yes. Absolutely. go on then well Mertens and Benchik played a great match didn't they Mertens actually came the closest to beating Benchik 7-6 in the third she really didn't play a good final set tie break lost it without winning a point Mertens but up until that point and that was in brutal conditions that day in Sydney like really really extreme heat that they were having to play and I was so impressed with both players and then Zizi Berg's has been an absolute revelation.

36:40He lost his, well, actually maybe not a revelation. Maybe that's sort of doing what he did at the back end of last season a disservice because I think this sort of run has been coming and he's felt like a coming player and he's just put it together this week. He lost his first match of the tournament but then kept winning and yeah, every time I looked up, who seem to be doing something really impressive on the court or twerking on social media. Like, what a week for Zizou Berg's. I like Zizou Berg's. Yeah, I'm a big fan. I hope he happens because I think he'd be good news in men's tennis. World number three is up for grabs, Zizou.

37:29Look, I don't want to be a downer, and obviously we've had our fun with Sinner and Alcaraz on the private jet, and I stand by that fun. But mentioning the extreme heat and conditions in Sydney, which were very challenging just to watch. You know, that stadium was empty for large sways of yesterday because it was unbearable to sit in those conditions. And they put the roof on the stadium, and that kind of just held the heat in it. We had a message on Instagram from somebody who went to the tournament and had been looking forward to it for a long time and was absolutely just gutted to be confronted with those conditions that they couldn't sit in.

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38:14you know noted that it would be impossible for elderly or remotely infirm people to to to go to a tennis event and experience those kind of conditions and just sort of the juxtaposition of that and then you know al-Khraz and Sinna arriving via private jet it just and sort of looking around like oh is anybody going to draw a line between these between the between the climate change and the private jets or are we all just going to I don't know my snowflake moment it does feel a bit like does anybody care about this stuff anymore there's a Michael Jackson musical that's just opened down the road here in Melbourne I'm like nobody cares about stuff anymore anyway that's it for part one join us in part two when we'll talk about other tennis stuff.

39:16Welcome back to part two of today's pod where we should definitely talk now about Irina Sabalenka, who has won Brisbane again, who has nailed herself on as if she needed nailing anywhere. But she has further nailed herself on as the heavy favourite for the Australian Open title with a win in the final over Ukraine's Marta Kostyuk. 6-4, 6-2. Now, yeah, on paper, she was the heavy favourite in that match-up. But how about the players that Kostiuk beat to get there? Three top ten players in a row. Amanda Inisimova, Mira Andreeva, Jessica Bagula. Marta Kostiuk was awesome this week. And Sabalenka took care of her quite handily in that final, having beat Karina Mukova in the semi-finals.

40:07It was a joyful match, that semi-final, that I watched almost in its entirety, that David, you watched in the middle of the night. She's taken care of everybody this week, Sabalenka, and lots of different types of players as well. Just the absolute dream preparation for Melbourne. Yeah, I think that's true. On both counts. I sort of feel like the United Cup, as wonderful an event as it is, is emotionally very tiring. Like, I look at the teams that were out there. It's wonderful, and I'm sure it'll give them great feels. But I also wonder how tired they all are after it, you know, when they go to Melbourne.

40:50Whereas I look at Sabalenka, who's played Brisbane, and she has encountered all these different playing styles and players who are playing well. And she's just sort of worked them out as she's gone along. I mean, the match against Muko, she was absolutely sensational, really, to use the old word. And she was, the most devastating shot in many ways for me was her use of the backhand drop shot. Because you could see, and the same happened a little bit in a couple of moments today, where an opponent is drawing her into a slice exchange or a shot where she's got to use that. And then suddenly she'll just throw in a drop shot.

41:28and she plays it with such confidence and such knowledge of when to do it and what it'll do to the opponent and what to do after it, where to run. And it's become a real weapon in the game of Irina Sabalenka. Mukava tried everything. She tried everything she's got in that expansive toolkit of hers. She's had a good week. She looks healthy, thank goodness. But she just couldn't make any impact against Sabalenka. And then you had the final today with a player who could make impact, actually. I think what Marta Kostic has shown this week as a real light bulb discovery for me, I did not know she had that sort of power.

42:09I'm not even sure that she really realised that if she just opened her shoulders quite like that, that the devastation that she could cause against those big hitting opponents that she's beaten. I mean, she lost three games against Jessica Bagula. but again you know she was three love down in the final against Sabalenka pretty nervy opening and then suddenly she reeled off three games in a row with just the most awesome hitting and looking at Sabalenka and thinking I wonder what she's making out of that and really she became steadier Sabalenka in the match and and Kostiuk didn't but I hope that this isn't just a one week moment of exciting tennis from Kostiuk above her normal level I hope this is the new her because to me that new level if if it is repeatable puts her in with the top 10 players in the world you know and the players that could be in the quarterfinals and maybe better but I don't know whether it's just the one week Matt a new Marta Kostiuk I mean she has always been one of those players who I've looked at and thought you could be ranked higher than you are you could be doing even better than you are like I do feel like she's been almost waiting to happen for for quite a while now but I do think again the serve has often been a bit of an issue for her which I think looked good this week and as David said that extra firepower that she had was was really notable um so yes I I definitely to me it felt quite repeatable what she was doing um given the foundations that she's laid over the over the last couple of years or so with her game so I yeah I definitely feel pretty confident that Kostiuk can can have a good season and and keep this up?

44:11We were braced for things being awkward after the match. We knew there wasn't going to be a handshake because Marta Kostiuk, like a lot of the Ukrainian players, doesn't do handshakes with Russian and Belarusian opponents. Sabalenka knew there wasn't going to be a handshake. The cameras cut away from it, but I don't, I think that all sort of played out fairly smoothly sabalenka was caught on on mike on the broadcast i was watching saying to the i think it was the wta communications representative they were discussing you know ceremony requirements and sabalenka said there's not going to be a picture with with the two of us right um and there wasn't a picture with with the two of them um and it was incredibly sad and uncomfortable Matt I think even even more so than I was expecting and I was I was braced for it yeah I think definitely Kostiuk I thought spoke incredibly well during the ceremony she didn't mention Sabalenka by name in a way that often you know players will do in the ceremony they'll normally start with their opponent and and congratulating them but she did uh to say i thank all my opponents this week um for the matches and sort of helping to bring out this this level in me and then when it was sabalenka's turn to speak she did start by congratulating marta kostyuk um she didn't she didn't turn around to look at her when she said those words but she said the right things and and spoke very very nicely about about kostiuk's game and and wished her well for the season ahead and then i don't think there were any as you said photos of them together afterwards i think they were done um individually um and of course there was also the the sort of added layer of mess between them because of what happened at the end of last year when Kostiuk was taken out of context by Tennis 365 with her comments about Sabalenka being more powerful and that situation I don't I don't know whether Sabalenka was fully across the revision that came out afterwards.

46:54I think that that reporting was so bad and so irresponsible that the damage had already been done. And, you know, what they did was inserted a question about intimidation. So it made it really sound like Kostit was saying something worse about Sabalenka. and also they took out her comments about Kostiuk saying that she's sure that players are not taking anything to boost their testosterone levels and they sort of left it open in that original reporting that Kostiuk might have been hinting at that. I still think you can maybe have some issues with what Kostiuk said there but it was nowhere near as bad as it first seemed when the correction from tennis 365 eventually came.

47:46But it strikes me that just the damage has been done there and very notably Sabalenka kissed her biceps when she won the match today.

48:01In the men's final in Brisbane, Daniel Medvedev, he's back folks, or is he? I don't know. He beat Brandon Nakashima in the final 6-2, 7-6. He's back, although he's still doing the thing that he's always done, which is winning titles he's never won before. I had a moment of panic when he was a break-up in the second set of this final. Because I thought he'd won Brisbane. I thought, has he won Brisbane before? No, he can't do this. The universe can't allow this to happen. This is one of my favourite, funniest trivia things in tennis. But no, he hasn't won Brisbane before. So it was on. He had a little wobble there at the end.

48:47Got broken back and taken to a tie break by Nakashima, but then accelerated through the tie break very quickly. Impossible question for you both. Is Daniel Medvedev back? Certainly partially. Certainly partially. and I think the rest of the story will unfold in front of us and I know again that's unsatisfactory punditry in many ways but the fact is I think he's playing way way better he's playing the best he's played since he was back here whatever but I don't feel like he's at the level he used to be at yet because it's not a big enough sample size I think at the end of last year, he was already showing improved form and improved interest.

49:37The fact that he kind of changed his whole team and brought Thomas Johansson on board, I thought that was a really important moment for him of realisation and recognition, acknowledgement that he was gone, really. And it was a big question mark. Do you really want to put the work in? Do you really want to uncover all the stones to try and get back there again? And it's not going to be an overnight thing. And it's still not. But to win this title off the back of the improvements he's clearly made. And he's got his nice short back and sides haircut. And he suddenly looks neat. And he looks invested.

50:10I think his interest level is back. I think his tennis is looking good. But let's not forget just how good he used to be. You know, this is a guy who was right there with Nadal and Djokovic. And, I mean, okay, not as good as them. But he was fighting out for the titles. He used to beat Yannick Sinner all the time, and then suddenly he stopped beating him. And some of that is because Sinner got so good as well. But clearly Medvedev regressed. And I just feel like it looks like the fog has cleared in his brain, and he's really up for it. So I'm fascinated to see whether his body can cope, whether his game is.

50:53You know, at some point, some players lose something with the game. They lose a bit of potency, and I'm trying to find out whether he's still got that or not and I'm not sure yet. Maybe the comb over was the problem. He's ditched the comb over and he's back. I thought, Matt, that his ground strokes had bite back on them. Still question marks about the serve. I'm not sure the serve will ever be back to 2019 pre-hernia. levels but I thought from the back of the court there was a bit more pep in the shots. Yes I thought the same actually and I'm you know I'm wary because I do think those conditions in Brisbane generally are quite quick aren't they and maybe that also helped Marta Kostiuk find a bit of extra extra in her ground strokes but also I think with Kostiuk it was the it was the intent behind them really that was so notable and I think with Medvedev it was definitely there, it was definitely able to hurt opponents again.

52:02He served really well in this match against Tiafoe and I do think his first serve has, like you say, not got back to its peak level but I do think it's better than where it was. I think his shoulder was a bit of an issue for a while, it strikes me that maybe that's a bit better than it was. I still think the second serve he's got some problems with but I was impressed today because I felt like I'd seen Medvedev lose that match he played today a lot last year where he serves for it double faults on match point loses his way and I thought he could completely go there and implode but kind of what David's saying about how some of the fog's cleared and he seems a little bit calmer on court and he reset to use Pam Shriver's word really well in that tie break And yeah, like, let's see if he can beat Benjamin Bonzi in the first round of a slam before declaring him back.

52:58And his form last year at the slams was absolutely appalling. He won one match, I think, at the slams all of last year. Nothing to defend. Right. So I tend to come down on the side as David, like, I don't think Never Dave's ever going to be back to where he was in terms of world number one. and, you know, right at the top of the sport. I do think those days have gone. But I remember us having a conversation at the end of the last year about whether he could get back in the ATP finals, for example, in 2026. And it feels like that is achievable, you know, with this form, with the picture of men's tennis right now.

53:36You know, we've talked about Fritz struggling. Daniil, world number three is up for grabs. Right. Like, it is, really. and Medvedev is, you know, if Zverev's in that conversation, if Fritz is in that conversation, which they are, I would say this kind of form from Medvedev would, and given his history in terms of he has won a lot of titles and done a lot of winning, it would put him in that conversation. So a sort of half and half. He's back to something closer to... He's not in the abyss. Yeah, he's not in the doldrums. Because he really was for a little bit there. He was. But yeah, if the draw gods like us at all, they will draw him to face Benjamin Bonzi in round one of the Australian Open, because that's the only way we'll truly know if he's back.

54:38Let's go back to the women. Let's head to Auckland, where Alina Svitolina won the title. She beat Wong Jin Yu in the final there, 6-3, 7-6. Some very good Svitolina Monfils vibes over in Auckland. Hasn't Monfils won the men's title there before? In fact, didn't he win it to become the oldest human ever to win anything? Isn't that a thing? Sounds possible. He definitely won it at quite a late stage in his career, shall we say. back when David you declared him the player of the season I think well I was right at that point he was awesome you persuaded me I signed up for you first three months of the year he was absolutely sensational last year well played Lina Svitolina and he did indeed beat Zizou Berg's in the final 6-3, 6-4 last year in Auckland and I did see a bit of Svitolina really close match with Sonny Cartel that was good she was playing well she was playing solid we've got so used to her hitting the living day lights out of the ball in the last couple of years but she was moving incredibly well she was just like a moving wall and I was thinking good luck knocking that down Cartel served for the match there didn't she against Vitalina but she did well to turn it round and yeah I thought this final which was the only one of the finals today I didn't watch live I had to resort to highlights it was a 4am job in the UK for this and there was going to be about five tennis matches starting at 6am so I had to pace myself but I felt like it was her experience shining through in this one it felt like she played the big moments better than Wong who impressed in that second set and she's got such a good finals record Svitolina she's won 19 of her 23 finals on the WTA tour like she knows how to get these done when she's closed them out when she's in those latter stages and yeah it's really impressive this sort of second career that she's built for herself for Linus Svitolina and continues to impress Heading to Hong Kong prepare yourself for heartbreak Lorenzo Mazzetti has lost another final.

57:10He needs to have a word with Fitalina. This time to Alexander Bublik, who makes his top 10 debut as a result of this result this week in Hong Kong. He was likely to make his top 10 debut kind of regardless at some point in the next few weeks because he's got basically nothing to defend. but still it has happened and that's an incredible achievement for him Lorenzo Mazzetti has made his top 5 debut as celebrated by Flavio Caballi on Instagram in sort of just good Italian vibes Caballi was hitting at Melbourne Park with Sara Arani today Oh really? Yeah he's just the sort of Italian vibes guy he's the David Law of Italian tennis so look that is incredible for Lorenzo Mazzetti and the good news is that world number three is up for grabs Lorenzo well and Alexander Bublik but the bad news is you have lost another final and you haven't won one now since 2022 and that is a problem I would think overall they come out of this tournament both of those two feeling pretty good I mean, Bud Blick in the top 10 for the first time, he was absolutely bowled over by it at the end in the sort of celebration.

58:34You could sell that really meant something to him. And obviously a year has gone by and he was in nowhere a year ago. But Mazzetti's just been doing it incrementally, hasn't he? And because he hasn't won titles on long the way, it's pretty hard to make these sort of ranking gains when you're not actually holding any trophies at the end of it all. So he's been very consistent. and I do feel like this is a step in a real step in the right direction because it's on a hard court and and you know I met was it last year in Melbourne Matt that you you purposefully on the first day of the tournament went out to watch Lorenzo Mazzetti I seem to remember this happening I do that a lot and yes it definitely sounds like Matt yeah and he was on here I think You definitely came back and were a bit disillusioned with things.

59:20And because he's such a wonderful watch, isn't he? I mean, watching him play against a guy like Bublik is really fun. But I think that the strides are being taken here. This time last year, you definitely said, and I'm sure definitely did say on various podcasts, Matt, Lorenzo Mazzetti has a hardcore problem. Would you say that now? no I don't think I would I think he has really got a lot better on hard courts over the last year sort of emphasised the back end of last year really with that US Open run and then in particular I think the matches he played after that actually like against even in a match he lost against Novak Djokovic in Athens he was awesome and then the nightmare tour right and then he played great against uh dimonor at the atp finals didn't he and got that win and it was a real moment and this was all happening on hard court so so no i wouldn't i wouldn't say so i think some of the changes he's made to his game have helped him his serve he's getting a bit more out of that and he's hitting his forehand brilliantly like so well and that that shot is doing damage even on a on a hard court now I think the thing about the titles is it's like you would definitely have rather had the progress he's made over the last few years and not picked up any titles rather than just one a couple here and there just to say that you've got some titles like I think you would sign for what he's done in terms of his trajectory and his improvement absolutely the problem is especially given it's not like he hasn't won titles he's not carrying that chain around yeah his neck okay it's been a while but yeah he has cleared the hurdle yeah I think for me the bigger thing is what does the finals record represent does it still say something sort of a bit fundamental about the game or mindset and I think he still slightly just lacks that killer instinct you know I think he He really improved his resistance and his resilience last year in matches.

1:01:31Like, remember that run in Monte Carlo where he kept coming from a set down and playing all those three set matches? And that was something we'd never really seen from him before. And he's tough to beat now, I would say, Mazzetti. He really is. He has far fewer matches where he just totally doesn't show up. but can he like go out there and get it and level up in the biggest moments i think i think that's what his sort of finals record sort of slightly represents he's struggling just slightly to just get over the line and that is just the quality that i think you have to you have to either you've got it or you've got to develop it you know like i think i think we have seen some players develop at that to a to a certain extent and he's still young enough that i think he can but that it is still missing i would say from zetti and i think that's the bigger deal than oh he hasn't won a he hasn't won a 250 in the last few years like that that i don't think that change moves the needle all that much but maybe he needs to win one to unlock it i don't know i don't i don't know it's a sort of it's like sort of chicken and egg situation um but he's playing really well uh and He was a bit injured in this final.

1:02:48His elbows seemed to be bothering him. I don't think he had a medical timeout, but he had some treatment on it. He did actually come out and win the doubles final afterwards with Sonnego. So he has won a title in doubles. And they'd been struggling to win. They'd lost two finals last year as well. But he's in a good place. I think Mazzetti generally, he's on the right track. But the problem is it's hanging over him. He's desperate to win a title. And I think if he can just get that burden off him, that might help sort of unleash him even more. It's tough seeing players injured in like the first week of the season, isn't it?

1:03:32I feel like I've seen more of that. Could be confirmation bias because, you know, I'm so conscious all the time of season length and lack of off season and, you know, how flogged the players are. And but. Yeah, seeing players injured now and hearing about withdrawals and long term chronic issues and young players, which we'll be talking about in part three, it's it's a bit of a buzzkill and I'm and I'm worried about it. So do come back for part three and more buzzkill and other news. Welcome back to part three of today's pod where we have wildcard news from the Australian Open. Justice for Stan Wawrinka.

1:04:22He gets an Australian Open wildcard. Was it ever in doubt? Who knows? I think it might have been quite in doubt at one point. That is the sense I get. But in a world where wild cards exist, obviously true justice, David, is wild cards not existing. But in a world where wild cards exist, justice has been done. So you don't want Stamford Rinker in the Australian Open? I'd love him to get his ranking up and qualify. Come on, he's 40. Qualified by right. Right, well, you know. You don't want him in?

1:05:04No. Not at the expense of the integrity of the sport, David. That means more to me. Okay. Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm glad he's in and Nick Kyrgios isn't, put it that way. Kyrgios apparently was so decent that he didn't want to have a wild card at the expense of somebody else who could make better use of it. Yes, news from Nick Kyrgios' Instagram. He said, after some good conversations with Tennis Australia, I've made the call to focus on doubles for this year's Australian Open. That is going to take some beating as a line for this year for 2026. I'm fit and back on court yeah we saw that we saw you losing to Alex Kovacevic but five setters are a different beast and I'm not quite ready to go the distance yet this tournament means everything to me but I'd rather give my spot my spot you entitled twat I'd rather give my spot to somebody who's ready to make their moment count it's all building blocks and I'll be back next year and pumped to compete.

1:06:27See you out there. Look at that, Catherine. You and Nick Kyrgios have got common ground, the integrity of the sport he's thinking about there. We both care equally for the integrity of the sport. Yeah, what a selfless act from Nick Kyrgios. Can't wait to see him in the doubles. in less good news Jung Chin Wen finalist here just two years ago obviously a very injury blighted 2025 season well that continues she's out of the Australian Open continuing to recover from that elbow injury that she had surgery on last year she said making this decision has been incredibly difficult for me Melbourne is my lucky place where I won my first Grand Slam main draw match and had my best experience.

1:07:21Although my recovery is progressing well and my off-season has gone smoothly, to play a Grand Slam requires players to maintain an extreme competitive condition. Currently, I have not yet reached my best condition that I've set for myself. Now, that's a fairly upbeat statement, but the fact is, David, she had this surgery many months ago and she's not fit yet and that is a fairly big concern i would say at this stage yeah and those sort of body parts as well whether it's wrist or elbow or anything like that you always worry don't you just how do you rehab that how do you get fit whilst also stress testing that part of the body it's not easy and she's so good for the sport she's such an important player really on numerous levels and she's a great kind of contender for top titles at her best too and this just has stopped her in her tracks and it's a terrible shame, I hope she's well soon Yeah, we wish her well, tennis is better for her being a relevant force in it.

1:08:41Last bit of news before we look ahead to this week, some news reported in The Athletic by Matt Futterman, some brilliant reporting by Matt Futterman about secret clandestine meetings. It's the traitors of the tennis world and it's been happening in London. Matt reports days before the start of the Australian Open in Melbourne, several of the most powerful leaders in tennis gathered 10 ,000 miles away to chart their way out of the antitrust lawsuits that threaten their power. The leaders of the men's and women's tours and the organisers of the other three Grand Slam tournaments, so all of them apart from the Australian Open, spent Tuesday and Wednesday of last week in closed-door meetings in London, according to three sources that were briefed on the discussions.

1:09:34The leaders discussed the structure of a deal aimed at giving tournaments financial security, producing more revenue for the sport and giving players the increased pay benefits and voice for which they've been pushing ever harder in recent months. Basically, this is about reaching some kind of settlement with the PTPA for the lawsuit that they lodged last year. And the reason the Australian Open are involved in this is because they have already reached a private individual settlement with the PTPA. Now I'd say, David, my knowledge of sort of lawsuits, particularly US lawsuits, is not sufficient or substantial for me to really draw any major conclusions.

1:10:22The only one thing that strikes me is if this lawsuit had absolutely nothing to it, it would have been dismissed by now by a judge. It's obviously got some legs. Now, Matt Futterman does report later in the piece that the Grand Slams and the tours are appealing to a judge for the lawsuit to be thrown out on various different technical ground so there's still room for that to happen yet these things rumble on and on but it's obviously cleared the first hurdle of credibility or maybe the first few hurdles is is what strikes me yeah this is further evidence that they're sufficiently concerned about it that they're all getting together to try to find a way out um and even though the professional tennis players association has taken this hit to its own credibility with novak jokovic is distancing himself from the organisation he kind of co-invented.

1:11:26These are still serious lawsuits, and they require attention. And that's what's been happening. And it sounds like there's still quite a long way to go in that. I mean, Matt reports that they're not close to any sort of resolution here or anything like that. Whereas I found his line about Tennis Australia's decision to settle absolutely fascinating he said that deal essentially meant that tennis australia had switched sides in a tacit agreement to help the ptpa wage a fight against its former allies um i i just i just found that really interesting um the the maneuvering that that's going on here um and you know when that was reported at the time just before christmas Tennis Australia were very keen to make sure that it was reported that they were not accepting any fault or that they had done anything wrong.

1:12:28But they were settling. You know, they were getting this out of the way. And I just, I mean, it's, it's, it's, I don't have the knowledge either. But I suppose I'm, I'm somewhat, somewhat taken by how much this seems to have rattled everybody in the sport to have to come together and do something about it. So it's, it's clearly a serious business. And that line, David, that you picked out about Tennis Australia and what their decision to settle apparently represents. all the more interesting in light of the reporting that hasn't been confirmed by any means but the reporting a few weeks ago that Craig Tiley would be leaving Tennis Australia to take up the role as head of the USTA um I said that hasn't been confirmed but it hasn't been denied either and and those were credible sources reporting reporting that that was in the works so As ever, the web of tennis authorities and infrastructure is sticky and complicated.

1:13:37Okay, tennis this week, folks. Tennis this week. We have a WTA 500 in Adelaide at the same time as an ATP 250. Madison Keys is the top seed in the women's event after Jessica Pagula withdrew. She's the defending champion, of course, Madison Keys. Mira Andreva is the de facto top seed because Pagula withdrew after the draw. Clear as day. Round one matches include Doria Kazikina, of course, now representing Australia, takes on Maria Sakary in round one. Victoria Mboko against Beatrice Hadajmaier. Eilid Tomlianovic against Clara Towson. Svea Kenin against Maya Joint. That's a tough draw. Very tough week for Maya Joint so far.

1:14:29And Yelena Ostapenko against Hotly Tipped for Success, Teresa Valantova. In the men's event in Adelaide, Alejandro Davidovic, Shakina and Tommy Paul are the top two seeds. Also in the draw are Valentin Vachero. Stefanos Tsitsipas, Thomas Mahatch and Francisco Sarundolo. How long do you think I will still be including Vachero in the also in the draw section of the weekly previews? I'm intrigued and I'm going to be monitoring closely. Okay. I love seeing who you've picked out. I'm like, oh, you think that's noteworthy, do you? But no, I accept Vachero clears the bar at the moment. round one matches include Sebastian Korda against Tenasi Koukinakis and Terence Atman against Ugo Mbair another one that's probably on thin ice re-being picked out I would say tough news out of Adelaide today Joel Fonseca he was supposed to play Hong Kong wasn't he last week withdrew from that he's now withdrawn from Adelaide too this was the statement from his team Joel has a straightened spine and suffered a stress fracture five years ago when he was still a junior.

1:15:51Therefore, his lower back is the most sensitive area of his body. And being a high performance athlete requires constant care. That worries me a lot. I know about stress fractures in backs and the long term problems thereof. The fact that it's still a concern five years later suggests that it will probably always be a concern to some degree. It's a very similar situation to what we see Artifees continuing to struggle with. I found this news, and particularly that statement and the sort of revelation of what exactly is going on Fonseca, I found that a real bummer. Like that's a big worry for me with him.

1:16:36and with too many of them you know there's there's so many young players right now that are suffering and it's not just short-term muscle injuries these are things that really worry you um no i i i was one of the little stories from the andy murray uh podcast the the that we did yesterday um was about his wrist injury and when he was a sort of 19 and it cost him three months and he'd got knee joint problems so I take some hope from the fact that he was able to overcome them and have a long career but you know the Draper, Feast and hopefully not Fonseca you know we just the sport needs these guys The WTA are in Hobart this week in Tasmania WTA 250 there Raducanu is playing McCartney Kessler, they're the top two seeds.

1:17:35Round one matches include 45-year-old Venus Williams against 38-year-old Tatiana Maria. Excellent stuff. Also, well, I say excellent stuff. Excellent stuff within the landscape of wildcards existing. Also, we have Bob Oroko-Chikova and Peyton Stearns, round one. And we have Janice Chen against Eva Jovic, two exciting young talents. The ATP are in Auckland, where Ben Shelton and Kasper Rood are the top two seeds. We also have Guillermo Fis, Jakob Mensik and Cameron Norrie all in the draw. And of course, we have the Australian Open qualifying this week too. We'll be keeping an eye on that. And we have the one point slam.

1:18:25And I've seen multiple trailers for that on Channel 9 this week. And I am worried. I'm obviously open and pure-hearted about it. It's going to be brilliant. But I am worried. There are Australian celebrities taking part. I don't understand the one-point slam anymore. I don't want Australian celebrities in it. It has gone from one to a hundred in like, which obviously is in the spirit of the one point slam. Let's go all in. It's just not what it was. But maybe it'll be still good. I'm going into it with an open mind. I'm going to the qualifiers tomorrow, which are apparently, you have to really dig around to find this information.

1:19:13They are starting from 5pm and they're tomorrow, Monday and Tuesday on court six. It's the qualifiers for the plebs. I don't think these random Australian celebrities have to go through the qualifiers. So there's no celebrities at the qualifiers and there's no pros at the qualifiers. No. And there's... It's all ams. And have there already been some... So basically going to watch a lot of club level tennis players. Play one point. Play one point against one another. Are there any AMs who've already qualified for the big night on Wednesday? I couldn't quite get a handle on that for the website, Matt.

1:19:55Because there's a website which highlights the champions from each of the regions. Yeah. And at first I thought, oh, I'll do some research. These are my guys. These are the people I'm going to be cheering for on Wednesday. I got a press release about them. Right. but I don't know if they've only gone into the qualifiers tomorrow night in which case premature press release folks yeah but I will go and do some important journalism tomorrow and I will let you know thank you and that is our next pod after the one point slam on Wednesday covering all the important stuff from the Australian Open David and Matt are travelling tomorrow tomorrow monday arriving tuesday night all being well please cross all fingers for them we recorded our australian open relived show last night and that will be up on monday so probably by the time you're listening to this it is already up um or very soon to be up so if you're a friend of the tennis podcast check that out or if you'd like to be a friend of the tennis podcast in order to check that out then the link of course is in our show notes um we are going to have a little meetup in Garden Square before the One Point Slam on Wednesday 6pm meeting where Matt?

1:21:19By Leslie Bowery's bust in Garden Square which is our favourite iconic spot where we recorded an emergency pod what was that six years ago now and we always get a little photo there whenever we go back to Melbourne Park so just go round all the busts and find Leslie Bowery and we will be there like an episode of the traitors where you have to murder in plain sight so if you you're around melbourne on monday and you'd like to come and say hi and generally we'll get pumped together about the one point slam and the the actual australian open then we'll see you at leslie bowery at 6 p.m on wednesday then we have our draw show on thursday matt we like an Australian Open draw.

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1:26:49And I don't know her any more. No. No, same. I would have said Garbini Muguruza. In the early stages of her career, there was talk of whether she might represent Venezuela. Wasn't there, but eventually elected for Spain. No, but I'm sure there will be one day, Lucia. And we also have Madeline Schnittke. Oh. Hello, Madeline. Hi, Madeline. Who is from Chicago. Home of the Bears, who had a big win last night in the very dying seconds against the Green Bay Packers. Quite the comeback. It's funny how often that happens, isn't it? I think it's like the Labour Cup and the sport is engineered for drama in the dying seconds.

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1:28:32big moment to be called Madeline you've got a very famous Lily Allen song named after you I knew that that silence is the sound of David nodding along Madeline thank you that's it just the two shout outs today Madeline and Lucia just the two the big two that is the end of our 2025 number three is up number three is up for grabs that's the theme of our show yeah Madeline and Lucia thank you ever so much for being friends of the tennis podcast we are of course part of the Athletic Podcast Network Matt, David get yourselves to Melbourne safely I can't wait to see you and we will be back on Wednesday when we're all together in Melbourne we'll speak to you then

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Catherine is in Melbourne and David and Matt are heading there soon, but first we catch up on all the results from the first week of the 2026 tennis season. 

Part one (00:00 - 39:14) We discuss how Poland won the United Cup despite Iga Swiatek losing her final two matches against Coco Gauff and Belinda Bencic. In what way was the nature of those defeats worrying for Swiatek heading into the Australian Open? There’s also chat about the brilliant form of both Bencic and Hubert Hurkacz, as well as appreciation for Belgium’s tournament. 

Part two (39:15 - 01:04:11) We wrap up the rest of the results, headlined by Aryna Sabalenka winning the title in Brisbane again at a tournament where Marta Kostyuk beat three Top 10 players in a row. Plus, is Daniil Medvedev back? And why can’t Lorenzo Musetti win a title? 

Part three (01:04:12 - 01:29:30) We cover some news including Stan Wawrinka’s Australian Open wildcard, injury worry for Zheng Qinwen and Joao Fonseca, and a secret meeting in London between the slams and tours over the ongoing PTPA lawsuit. 

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