US Open Day 8 - Alcaraz vs. America

7 Sep 2026 · 1 h 12 min · 19 chapters

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In short

US Open Day 8 recap and preview, focusing on men’s and women’s fourth-round results and the set quarterfinal matchups.

Guests

Catherine Whittaker (host), David Law (co-host), Matt Roberts (co-host). They are tennis commentators/podcast hosts; no outside guests are interviewed in the provided transcript.

Key claims

  • Carlos Alcaraz’s win over Tommy Paul (6-4, 6-3, 6-4) was “performance of the day,” with 14 breakpoints created in three sets and a dominant level after early competitiveness.
  • Alcaraz’s serve looked less explosive than last year; the question is whether players can expose it.
  • Ben Shelton’s straight-sets win over Stefanos Tsitsipas signals he’s peaking at the right time for his quarterfinal vs. Alcaraz.
  • Francis Tiafoe’s straight-sets win over Daniil Medvedev (first in seven tries) was his biggest match yet, showcasing improved consistency.
  • Women’s: Aryna Sabalenka beat Taylor Townsend but the match felt underwhelming; Linda Noskova’s comeback win over Marta Kostyuk sets a major quarterfinal vs. Sabalenka.

Notable examples

  • Alcaraz’s viral ESPN/Fountain Plaza moment: he thought he might play Tiafoe/Medvedev, then checked the draw and realized it’s Shelton.
  • Tiafoe’s crowd-igniting third-set swings: surviving set point moments and winning on match point.
  • Noskova’s “fingers in ears” after choking match points, then regrouping to win on her fourth match point.

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Chapters

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Men's Quarterfinals Overview

0:45 to 3:36

Discussion of American players' success and Alcaraz's standout performance.

“I will be overriding that body clock and going to sleep.”

Alcaraz vs. Tommy Paul Match Breakdown

3:36 to 6:41

In-depth analysis of the match between Alcaraz and Tommy Paul.

“I mean, Tommy Paul is the guy that in that ATP social video, when asked to pick the winner of this US Open, didn't pick himself.”

Alcaraz's Performance and Strategy

6:41 to 10:01

Exploring Alcaraz's game style and strategic advantages over opponents.

“but it came across as quite damning, you know, in terms of, yeah, I'll test myself, I'll see where I'm at.”

Comparisons to Tennis Greats

10:01 to 12:20

Comparison of Alcaraz's performance to past legends like Federer.

“This was a performance that would have sat comfortably within his 2025 US Open run, I think, which we talk about is his kind of, you know, he's won slams not playing his best tennis.”

Alcaraz's Viral Moment

12:20 to 14:00

Discussion of a humorous moment involving Alcaraz at the ESPN set.

“and that he said, I don't always want to be going for the fastball.”

Alcaraz's Quarterfinal Confusion

14:00 to 20:30

Explore Carlos Alcaraz's surprising mix-up about his upcoming opponents.

“of the Arthur Ashe Stadium there, sort of in front of the fountain.”

Ben Shelton's Impressive Performance

20:30 to 24:30

Discuss Ben Shelton's match against Tsitsipas and his readiness for Alcaraz.

“I mean, he said that it's pretty extraordinary what Carlos is doing to have this long out and be playing this well this soon.”

Anticipating the Alcaraz vs. Shelton Matchup

24:30 to 28:00

Analyze the potential dynamics between Alcaraz and Shelton in their upcoming match.

“Yeah, generally, I think Alcrest will win.”

Tiafoe's Dramatic Match Against Medvedev

28:00 to 37:15

Analysis of Tiafoe's match against Medvedev, highlighting key moments and crowd reactions.

“Yeah, he's not just turning up for the bit of the year that he fancies.”

Sabalenka's Performance Against Townsend

37:21 to 42:00

Discussion on Sabalenka's match against Townsend, detailing the match dynamics and player performances.

“Looked really cool, really fun, really New York.”
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Irina Sabalenka and Linda Nozkova's Tournament Progress

42:00 to 47:42

Explore the performances of Sabalenka and Nozkova in their recent matches.

“She had those match points across two sets.”

Anticipation for Sabalenka vs. Nozkova

47:42 to 48:21

Discuss the upcoming match between Sabalenka and Nozkova and its significance.

“No, and now we're in a situation where we get Sabalenka against the Wimbledon champion.”

Kostiuk vs. Nozkova: A Recap

48:21 to 49:29

Review the thrilling Kostiuk vs. Nozkova match and its dramatic moments.

“It's also possible that you get a bit of a Noskova no-show because we have seen that as well in this summer.”

Jessica Bagula vs. Emma Navarro Preview

49:29 to 51:58

Analyze the upcoming match between Bagula and Navarro, focusing on their strengths.

“So they've kind of made sort of similar equivalent style.”

Bagula's Challenges and Navarro's Potential

51:58 to 55:43

Examine Bagula's recent performances and Navarro's surprising resurgence.

“But we will have gone on to re-record this segment of the podcast because Anna Kalinskaya will have pulled off an extraordinary comeback from a set in 5-2 down.”

Labour Day Order of Play Preview

56:03 to 1:05:04

Discussion about the upcoming matches on Labour Day at the US Open.

“I think it might be a bit easier to elevate from Navarro's position because she can maybe be more free.”

Match Predictions and Player Insights

1:05:04 to 1:10:01

Predictions and analyses of key player matchups, including Osaka and Hashinov.

“but she hasn't been able to shut the door on her matches in the way she would have wanted to.”

Greetings and Acknowledgments

1:10:01 to 1:10:46

The hosts greet their mascots and acknowledge their executive producers.

“Hello to our top folks and executive producers, Greg, Chris and Jeff.”

Closing and Next Episode Teaser

1:11:16 to 1:11:30

The hosts thank listeners and tease the next episode's content.

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Transcript

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0:10Well, hello and welcome to the Tennis Podcast coming to you from Tennis Podcast Towers, New York after a cracking day of fourth round action at Flushing Meadows. If you don't already know, I'm Catherine Whittaker and alongside me are my comrades, David Law and Matt Roberts, bringing you daily shows throughout this and every Grand Slam of the tennis season. And after one of the most brutal starts to a slam that we can remember in terms of late finishes, here we are recording at 10pm. What are we going to do with the many hours until 4am when our body clocks are expecting us to go to sleep?

0:48Catherine Whitaker:I will be overriding that body clock and going to sleep. That's the plan. Anyway, folks, we are catching up with normality one day at a time. Let's start with the men's side of things today. And after a tough scene yesterday with Taylor Fritz bombing out unexpectedly, a fantastic set of American results today. Three of the four men that have come through this bottom half of the draw and into the quarterfinals today are American. Francis Tiafoe, Alex Mickelson and Ben Shelton. In theory, a 75 % chance of an American man reaching the final from this half of the draw. The problem for them is that the one non-American is Carlos Alcaraz.

1:37And he, David, put on the performance of the day. 6-4, 6-3, 6-4 to beat poor old Tommy Paul, the only American man to be unsuccessful today. Tell us about this Alcaraz performance. I don't think it could have got any better other than if he'd have just taken all of his breakpoint chances. I think he sealed about four out of 14. But the fact that he set up 14 breakpoints in three sets tells its own story. I don't even think Tommy Paul played badly in this match He was disappointed with elements of it in his post-match press conference But he said even if I'd have got those right That doesn't mean I was going to win He started off in incredible fashion I mean this is a guy who'd beaten Al Kraz In two of their first three matches On hard courts in North America And you know

2:35David Law:They always have good looking matches he's one of those players that feels like he can move with Alcraz to a degree he he's a shot maker he likes flair he likes these sort of rallies these impossible passing shot rallies um it's just that Alcraz does the same thing and about 30 better at least and if you look at the record I think it was 11 sets in a row that Alcraz had won coming into this particular match so that kind of leveled things out and then some after the early struggles for our crowds but still Paul came out and he was feeling it out there in front of the New York crowd which was full and um and he he was the one who got the gasps from around the net post forehand down the line on the full run on the full stretch hitting it sort of between the umpire's chair and the and and the net post right into the corner it was the most incredible shot and the crowd were going wild for him and that's when it was on serve in the early three first four or five games of this match and you're thinking okay well he's playing he looks like he's playing as well as he can Al Krause is fine at the moment it feels competitive and then suddenly Al Krause put his foot down and he made Tommy Paul look ordinary it was astonishing it didn't look like tommy paul's game could trouble alcaraz in any way it didn't matter what shot he hit alcaraz had an answer to he was too fast he was too powerful his touch was a joke i mean he hit several forehand drop shots moving backwards into the in the court when he's just sort of shaped up as if he's going to blast a forehand and you have no clue that the drop shot is coming until the last second you talked at the start of this tournament katherine and he did in his press conference about his freshness of mind at this stage of the tournament the stage of the year where everybody's so fried everybody's hanging on and he's had five months without playing the sport and he's loving being back al kraz and that is coming out in his tennis i think fortunately there doesn't appear to be any lingering issues with the with the wrist so what you're left with is a fresh best player we've ever seen or one of them um and poor old Tommy Paul just had no answers at the end of it he we've talked before about how how does he go away and work even harder in the offseason because this is a guy who doesn't leave any stones unturned how can he think well if I just do this better or do that I can catch these this guy in Yannick Sinner.

5:20David Law:You can't.

5:21Matt Roberts:I don't think he does, Tommy Paul. I mean, Tommy Paul is the guy that in that ATP social video, when asked to pick the winner of this US Open, didn't pick himself. You know, Taylor Fritz picked himself. Francis Tiafoe picked himself. Tommy Paul picked, I think, Novak Djokovic. Maybe Carlos Alcraz. Anyway, definitely not himself. I think Tommy Paul is both able to be sort of ambitious in terms of maximising, but also a realist, whereas someone like Taylor Fritz or Francis Yapo needs to be, well, some might say delusional. I don't know. They certainly need to believe that, don't they? As we always say, the line between delusion and self-belief is paper thin in tennis and probably all of sport.

6:11Matt Roberts:But, you know, I think Tommy will be OK. There was such a revealing line from Alcaraz in his press conference, wasn't there, Matt? I mean, he was very complimentary about Tommy Paul. I think he loves playing him. I think he loves the way their matches feel, not because it's not tough, but he said Tommy's kind of the benchmark. Tommy's a great test for me to know where my game is at. Yeah, he said Tommy Paul is always great feedback. Yeah. Which I think was absolutely meant as a compliment, but it came across as quite damning, you know, in terms of, yeah, I'll test myself, I'll see where I'm at.

6:52I'm not going to lose, but I will know where I'm at having come out of playing Tommy Paul. And, yes, and I think Tommy Paul was interesting on how he felt like early in their rivalry he could have success.

7:06Catherine Whitaker:He kind of talked about some tactical things that he used to do against Carlos Alcaraz, which worked. But they don't work anymore because Alcaraz has got better in the time since Paul had that bit of success against him a few years ago. And I think my favorite game of the entire match, there were a lot to pick from because Alcaraz was, as David's described, just in great form throughout. But my favorite game was actually the final one because he was he was love 30 down trying to serve it out. And then he was 1540 down. And the shot making he came up with in that in that final game, there was an amazing one of those drop shots that David's talked about.

7:49Catherine Whitaker:There was a drive volley and there was a thunderous forehand that just absolutely ripped through the court. And Jim Currier in the World Feed commentaries said, oh, he's got a he's got a thirst for danger in these in these big moments when he's when he's under threat. He goes for fearless shots. And we maybe didn't see that in the first round as he was still coming back after so long. but it hasn't taken that long you know and to me David you mentioned Federer to me this was the Federer against Burdick at the 2017 Australian Open moment where he just clicked into a gear that he'd had flickers of through this tournament but he sustained it for a whole match and it felt like the tournament changed you know I remember Federer in 2017 and when obviously the reason And we're talking about that as the comparison point is because that was Federer's first tournament back in a long time after an injury.

8:53Catherine Whitaker:And his first two rounds were scratchy. He played Jürgen Meltzer and Noah Rubin.

8:59Matt Roberts:Scratchy than Elk Razzes have been even.

9:01Catherine Whitaker:Yeah, I would say so. But Djokovic had gone out then against Denis Isterman. I remember Federer coming out and playing Burdick and he absolutely wiped the floor with him. And at that point in his career, Berdett was good feedback for Federer. There'd been a time when Berdett was a threat to Federer, but he'd weathered that rivalry and he was now good feedback for him and he was flowing and it felt like, oh my God, Federer might be able to win this tournament. I think we were already thinking Alcaraz could win this tournament, but to me, he became a real favourite. And I'm no longer really thinking about Alcaraz in terms of rust in terms of this being a huge opportunity for someone to beat a below-par Alcaraz, it now feels like someone is going to have to do what we've been talking about for a couple of years and step it up and raise it and meet Carlos Alcaraz at that level.

9:55Catherine Whitaker:And good luck, everyone, because, you know, Alcaraz is seriously informed.

10:02Matt Roberts:This was a performance that would have sat comfortably within his 2025 US Open run, I think, which we talk about is his kind of, you know, he's won slams not playing his best tennis. I mean, his not best tennis is still extraordinary, but he's won slams being pretty in and out and scratchy. But we kind of hold up US Open 2025 as his real maturing in terms of just locking in, head down. It was professional. It was disciplined. It was still electric. but it's the Alcaraz gold standard. And today could have been one of those matches. Yes, I think in every department apart from the serve.

10:48Catherine Whitaker:You know, like the serve last year was clicking on a level that it actually never really has for Alcaraz in his career. He was brilliant with that shot at that tournament. And the pace was so high. I still can't really work out whether he just can't crank the serve up to the to the pace that he was at consistently or he's choosing not to. But he wasn't doing it again today. It was it was often a shot that was, you know, I don't know, 80, 85 percent of his actual pace. And even the second serve, he's being pretty predictable and safe with it. but the rest of his game was was absolutely like it was last year i would say but it's going to be interesting whether he can win this tournament with a serve at 80 85 percent of what it can be maybe there are players left in the draw who might be able to expose that if he can't increase it

11:48Matt Roberts:yeah it's very possible that he's holding it back until he needs it i don't even know why though I mean, you do see that with Ben Shelton. Obviously, we're going to come to talk, you know, big servers. They do, you know, it's not necessarily safe or healthy to deploy it at its biggest all the time. I think that's an element of it. I remember asking Shelton about that two years ago, about how his game had changed, and that he said, I don't always want to be going for the fastball. part of it is self-preservation i don't want to hurt my shoulder by going full out all the time power cross doesn't need and in his case he's got a specific wrist problem that's kept him out for five months if he can not go full out and still win comfortably that's a more efficient way of of getting to where he wants to be and he might have to go full out at some point yeah i guess

12:51Catherine Whitaker:I'm just finding it interesting that it's only the serve where we've seen that like we've not seen any holding back on the forehand in in the last few matches. He's absolutely blasted some of those. It's not as repeatable as as the serve. He's not having to do it all the time in the way that he would have to with the serve if he's always going after it. but I also just wonder whether there's something in the fact that the serve has always been the shot that Alcaraz has tinkered with the most and felt the most difficulty with in his career and maybe it's just the last thing to come back and if there is a little bit of doubt that he talked about having at the start of the tournament with his wrist if that's just there a tiny bit maybe it's the serve where it is where it is just going to take the longest to come back

13:40Matt Roberts:there was a a really fun Al Karaz moment, which has gone very viral. Lots of you may have seen it when he went to the ESPN set, the one, they have a number of sets, don't they? They really go to town with the US Open, but they have one in the main square, just sort of in the foothills of the Arthur Ashe Stadium there, sort of in front of the fountain. It's the Fountain Plaza for anybody that has been to the US Open, not far from where we did our live show. That feels a long time ago, doesn't it? He visited the set there just after coming to his press conference about 45 minutes after the match.

14:20Matt Roberts:And Andy Roddick began asking him a question about his two possible quarterfinal opponents because at that stage Ben Shelton hadn't played Stefano Sitsipas. And he said the names Ben Shelton and Stefano Sitsipas and Carlos Alcaraz began to look quite confused. And he went, no, no, no, it's, isn't it? Wait, hang on a second. Can I have a look at the draw there? And he goes, oh, my God, I thought it was Tiafoe or Medvedev that I was playing. And it was this incredibly natural moment. And we know that Alcarez is a guy that looks at the draw. We literally saw him studying the draw in forensic detail.

15:02He walked up to the screen it was projected on at Roland Garros last year. and was soaking it all in. It looked like he was trying to commit the whole thing to memory. We know he's a draw guy. And yet here he was just going, oh, right, I'm in that bit, am I? Not that bit that I thought I was. It was so like, oh, he's just sort of floating around tennis at the moment, just sort of potentially raw-dogging his way to a US Open title. It's absolutely unreal. But we do know now, and presumably he knows, that it will be Ben Shelton that he faces in that quarterfinal. How good was Ben Shelton tonight, David, to beat Stefanos Tsitsipas in straight sets?

15:50Bloody good. Really good. And he hasn't been good to this point. The first two rounds, I was taken aback by how ordinary Shelton was. And in fact, in the first set that he lost 6-1 on the first day, I mean, he was terrible. It was the worst set I've ever seen in play. And it was nerves. He was shaken. He was joking with his team after this match against Stefanos Sitsabas about how his team required him to be focused or they were going to leave. And it was a joke, but it was kind of loaded as well because you just get the feeling that he hasn't been able to stay as focused as he wanted to. First of all, the whole ferrari of coming in as the big guy and kind of freezing on the first set of that match.

16:39Then the second match, he's playing the sort of Alexander Zverev shift, one in the morning, and that didn't seem to sit particularly well with him.

16:48David Law:He looked like he was having to really work for that. But here, he'd settled down. He was in good shape all the way through. He wasn't threatened. I mean, part of that, I think it may be a bit of a false dawn with Tsitsipas. He's managed to get some wins this week, but my word, he was a mile off in this match. It's so easy to pick on his backhand if you've got a big lefty serve the way Shelton does, and he deployed it well. But Shelton was hitting everything well. He was middling it. This was the performance that has had me thinking that he is going to win this title. I was bargaining without a Carlos Alcaraz playing at the level he's playing at so we'll get on to that but I think that this was really encouraging from a Shelton perspective is exactly what he

17:39Matt Roberts:needed so good in fact that I can tell you he's currently back out on the practice court

17:46David Law:really because it was so quick that's interesting you know and that's Alcaraz was asked about why do you sometimes go and practice something? He says, it's really important how you go to bed. You need to have felt when you go to bed, like I played well. Even if you've won, you need to be able to feel the ball. And clearly today he didn't have to, but Shelton, short shift today.

18:10Matt Roberts:And at the end of that answer, Alcaraz goes, and I think you could see that in my forehand today. But yeah, Shelton's out there, or certainly was a few minutes ago, out there on the practice courts, which I always think that's a tough scene for the guy they've beat. Yeah, I know what you mean. When they then go and do that. Yeah, me too. They did say in the commentary that Sitspass maybe wasn't feeling all that well,

18:38Catherine Whitaker:but he did look a mile off it. And the match-up clearly is a good one for Shelton. Jimmy Arias said that in five sets they've played, Sitspass hasn't generated a great point against Ben Shelton. That's been the gap between them. And there was definitely a business-like look to Sheldon tonight. You know, it was very much a case of when he got in the lead, he seemed very determined not to lose the lead in a way that it has happened to him. And it was, you know, he was quite subdued, really, in his body language, but his face was all business. And it was only really a joke in the encore interview afterwards where Sam Query asked him about, do you like, you know, when you rack up the serve, how often do you have a quick look at the speed gun to see where you got to?

19:31Catherine Whitaker:He was like, oh, yeah, I do that every single time. It was the first moment where his face like broke all evening. He'd been so locked in. And that's the Shelton that I think I was expecting like David from the start. and it's exciting that we've at least seen it before he now plays Carlos Alcarez. You know, if Shelton had been really unconvincing tonight again, but scraped through, I don't think I would be all that hyped for Alcarez Shelton, but Shelton really brought it tonight and that's a good sign, I think, going into that match.

20:06Matt Roberts:And Shelton, even if he hadn't seen that Alcarez performance or much of it or whatever, he would have known. He'd have heard from somewhere or someone how good that Alcraz performance was. And he's a bravado guy, Shelton, isn't he? He'd have been motivated to go out there and make the statement that I'm playing well too. Absolutely. And I think he had been watching it. I mean, he said that it's pretty extraordinary what Carlos is doing to have this long out and be playing this well this soon. but yeah he's as you would expect he's backing himself he says there are going to be fireworks when they play and he's going to be ready to go and that's exactly what I want to hear from somebody who's about to take on the best player in the draw so David pre-tournament you did think this quarterfinal would happen you backed Carlos Alcaraz to get to this stage and Ben Shelton to do the same and you picked Ben Shelton to win this match and go on to win the title.

21:13How are you feeling about that now? I didn't expect our crowds to be looking like this. I'll be honest with you. And before we started recording tonight, I brought up a match on YouTube that I've always used as a little benchmark for, I don't know, it's just one that's always stuck in my head of the Andy Roddick against Roger Federer rivalry. and this one was 2007 Jimmy Connors was with Roddick and they played in the quarterfinals same stage as Alkraza and Shelton are playing and it was very clear that Connors and Roddick

21:53David Law:had decided okay you are gonna go full blast all the time and try to knock this guy out of his zone and the first point of the of the match um fedra comes in and roddick goes through him with a forehand and actually succeeds and wins the point doesn't win the game goes into a tie break he's right there roddick's hitting 140 mile an hour serves time after time every time there's a forehand that's remotely in the hitting zone he's trying to knock the cover off it to get fedra out of his out of his zone and he's holding pretty comfortably roddick gets into the tie break they're at the the important stages is of it the three all the four all roddick comes in behind an inside out forehand at perfect length and federer just squishes a backhand passing shot beyond him and that's the set second set exactly the same story they go to a tie break roddick's having success he hits a 140 mile an hour serve that federer just blocks back with a little flick of the wrist single-handed it looks like he's just done it with his the back the back of his hand without any effort and it comes back faster than it came down and it lands on Roddick's baseline at his feet and kind of yorks him to use a cricket term it goes under his racket it's incredible that won him the set two sets to love and then Federer wins at 6-2 that is the most likely scenario that I envisage seeing in this match if these two players stay to the form that I saw today I think Shelton will bring it I think he'll play really really well I think you he will stay with Alcraz I think the crowd will be up I think it could be a little bit like the Tiafoe Alcraz match that we saw here a few years ago before Alcraz had won I mean that was more sets but Alcraz is a much better player now.

23:47David Law:I could see it being something like that. Two tie breaks and a 6-2. That's one scenario. The other one is that Alcraz actually isn't where we think he is yet because he still hasn't been stress tested. He hasn't had 140-mile-an-hour serves coming down at him. He hasn't felt pressure. He hasn't felt the crowd in quite that way. Today was almost like a practice match, the way he was carrying on. He was so unthreatened. So there is still a scenario where I think that he could be pushed and find that it's not quite there or that the wrist hurts or something like that and Shelton gets the better of him.

24:26David Law:If he plays his best, he will beat Shelton. How do you see it, Matt? Yeah, generally, I think Alcrest will win.

24:37Catherine Whitaker:I think to go back to the Federer-Roddick comparison and again to bring up the Alcrest serve, You know, one of the things Federer always had was, OK, not as much power on the serve as Andy Roddick, but pretty much just as an effective serve because he could hit his spots and back it up so well. So he could live with Roddick in that game, you know, and not feel that much pressure on return. I think it's possible that if Alcarez can't get his serve going at all, he does feel that pressure on return. And he's got a guy bringing it down the other end. I think that what Dave was talking about in terms of Alcarez just not having felt that in a while, I think there is a scenario where that rocks him.

25:21Catherine Whitaker:but even in that scenario I think over best of five I just think Alcraz would kind of have the time to settle and find his game I suppose they've not played all that often Shelton and Alcraz one of them was Leva Cup there was a good one at Ron and Garros yes which was four sets I don't think of it as probably because we just haven't seen it as much but Shelton's really struggled against Sinner. Sinner's been the guy who has just won so many sets in a row against him. Sinner's relentlessness, I think, is a bit too much for Shelton to handle consistently. But I still just think Alcaraz's best tennis is better than Ben Shelton's and he's got way more at his disposal and I think, given what we've seen tonight, that level is in him and even if he's tested I would back him to find it enough to to win it.

26:20It'll be night session surely. Which I also think, I agree with you and I think that will benefit Shelton. He has had all of his matches have been night I think. Certainly two of them. Yeah, the Herc actually was day. Right, I think so we're in the quarterfinals. I think the other three have been night sessions. I think Al Kraz has had two night sessions. Certainly Faria and I think the last round was night session. Already forgotten who that was against. No, Well, you're bing, that was day session. So just the one, just the Faria match.

26:50David Law:He's not as keen, is he? He prefers day. If you offered him, he would rather have the day session. So I think that that could benefit Shelton. I agree. Yeah. So we expect that that will be night session and the All-American quarterfinal between Francis Tiafoe and Alex Mickelson will be the day session. Let's talk Tiafoe, David, getting his first, well, do we count Leverkopp? No, his first victory over Daniel Medvedev, 7-6, 6-4, 7-6. And I say first, this was first in seven attempts. He had a 0-6 record going to this and he's beaten him in straight sets. I've seen people that were at this match online saying this was the match of Francis Tiafoe's life.

27:39You were there inside the stadium. What do you think? Yeah, I'd agree. I think he was absolutely fabulous today, Tiafoe. He's packaged his game now in a way that it's maximised. The most important thing this year is that, in his words, he's just bringing it every day of his life in his career, in the year, not just sort of turning up. In August, August Foe. Yeah, he's not just turning up for the bit of the year that he fancies. You know, his coaching team and he have come to an arrangement, an agreement that that is just not, we can't just turn it on like that. So he's as dedicated as he could be.

28:23I've seen the other two big matches that he played at the Grand Slams

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28:27David Law:and lost against Matteo Arnaldi at the French Open and then against Alexander Bublik at Wimbledon. And he was playing so well in them and didn't win. and so today was a real a real acid test because of that record medvedev is a nightmare for him in so many ways don't think medvedev played very well by the way today on on by on his part but even so you've got the mental challenge of beating this guy you've never beaten before in a real match i think he said about uh about levy cup um but this was this was the real deal and he's got this way now of combining slow balling when he needs to and dynamite ground strikes from the back of the court off-pace shots volleying all sorts of things and and he and he really got the balance right the first set was close on the tie break second set was comfortable third set was the one that I was courtside for and was one of the better experiences I've had in a court of of an atmosphere i mean there wasn't there was wasn't a seat spare and it felt even when he's two sets to love up and you're in a tiebreaker it still felt precarious for for tiafo he was a breakdown early on he got it back they went into a tiebreak he's he's getting the better of the tiebreak it feels tiafo and then suddenly he wasn't it's five or he hits a backhand long he's five six down he's set point down and suddenly you think oh my word if he loses this set the whole thing could turn and at five six he hits a huge forehand and charges the net and has to fend off three volleys at the net and the crowd just erupted it was one of the loudest noises I've heard in the stadium and then they started to chant and and and Tiafra just sort of held the pose after the final volley for about 20 seconds he didn't move a muscle he was just sort of lapping up the the the adulation and the noise and they started to chant let's go foe and it was ringing around the stadium they changed ends medvedev attacked him um to his to his back and side and came into the net and the ball was behind tiafa on his back and side and he somehow managed to flip it cross court two hands and dip it at his feet it was miraculous really that he He managed to pull it off and Medvedev couldn't handle the volley.

30:55David Law:And then on match point, Medvedev swatted a forehand drive volley cross court. Somehow, Tiafa got a forehand squash shot on it and floated it back and Medvedev dumped it in the net and the place just went bananas again. It was absolutely electric in that stadium. And I'm really pleased for Tiafa because I think he went out to Jan-Lenard Struff last year and it was so poor on grandstand court. This is what he's all about. Still unbeaten on Armstrong. He'd love to play this quarterfinal on Armstrong, wouldn't he? But it's not going to be possible. It will be on Ash. I think that's right, isn't it?

31:35They're all on Ash. Yes, definitely, yeah. Yeah, it's an amazing thing, Tiafoe and Armstrong. It's a player and a court in just perfect harmony and he knows how to play to the people on that court.

31:49Catherine Whitaker:you know stuff like holding the pose at the end there and there was an amazing like pirouette half volley that he hit that's a 360 at one point that was absolutely incredible as well and you know he he talked the other night about genuinely preferring the vibe on armstrong you know he shouted out the lack of sweets and i that is just one thing that worries me a little bit for Tiafoe going forward. I think he's playing great tennis generally. And I think that point he made about bringing it all year, he feels more secure now, I think, because he's seasoned. He's tested all year. He hasn't won the big matches, but it's not been because of attitude or just not doing the work, you know, or not finding the events as meaningful as the US Open.

32:46he's sort of okay he's built up some scars perhaps through the year but actually i think he's he's

32:51Catherine Whitaker:learned from all those defeats and his game feels so secure he knows what he's doing with it right now but it is at its best on that court in those vibes and trying to bring that out on ash in the next few matches i think will be harder for him um but i would i would love for him to be able to do it because that was incredible today and i always think of the win over nadal as kind of his best win um you know in truth that was a pretty injured nadal i think by that point in in the season here in 2022 um i don't know injured nadal in 2022 versus 2026 medvedev it's kind of hard to to sort of weigh those things up, I suppose.

33:40Catherine Whitaker:But I also think of the loss he took to Carlos Alcaraz in five sets here at the US Open as one of the best matches he played. And that was on Ash, and that was a feverish atmosphere. So we have seen it on Ash as well, but it was incredible today. And he's a very special person on that stadium. And it was after that loss to Alcaraz in 22, and obviously Alcaraz went on to an title,

34:07Matt Roberts:that he did an interview on the court, very unusual for the losing player to do an interview, and he said, I'll be back and I'll win this thing one day. And I do think he's very aware of his ageing at the moment. I've seen a few different interviews, seen and heard a few different interviews of Francis Tiafoe where he's lightly and jokingly sort of referenced stakes and pains and gone, well, you know, I'm not as young as I used to be, I'm getting old. I think he's aware of his tennis mortality and how small the window is. And if there even is a window for him to come back and win this thing one day, it's closing, you know.

34:50And I think he's very, very aware of that. And I'm very excited to see what he'll bring in a couple of days' time. David, he's up against your guy, Alex Mickelson. Yeah, 12 sets played, 12 sets won. I'm really interested in your thoughts about Mickelson, Tiafoe. Tiafoe and Mickelson, yeah. Yeah, it's one I find very hard to call. They've played twice before, Tiafoe's won all four sets, but they were a while back. And never on an outdoor hard court. No, I don't feel that they are really representative. And Tiafoe said the same thing. I mean, they're good mates, these two. I think Tiafa likes Mickelson.

35:34He rates him. He says he's an all-court game that he has, which is unusual, he feels, for a player of his age. He's early 20s. And he's right. He can kind of do everything, Mickelson.

35:48David Law:He makes the game look quite easy with his size and his movement and his shot-making. He's a very natural tennis player. my guess is that tiafo's handling of the stage will will get him over the line i'm not convinced that mickelson will have the greatest experience in his first kind of go at doing this really um big quarterfinal at the u.s open in in in quite this way i hope that's not right i don't mind who wins i mean i'd be i really like them both um but i just don't i hope mickelson doesn't have a bad experience i want him to play well and if tiafo plays better than him great you know what i mean um but but i think i think that is a an element to this match um but then it may go the other way i i remember when fritz played against tiafo in that semi-final here a couple of years ago and And Tiafa was getting the better of him.

36:48David Law:And then he choked. He choked it away because of the enormity of the moment. The thing he really wants and suddenly he couldn't play free. And is that going to happen to him here in a tight moment? So lots and lots of variables to consider. Really looking forward to it. I think I'd go Tiafa to win it, but not with any great sense of confidence. It's a great set of quarterfinals. I can't wait. that's it for part one we'll be back in part two to talk about the women's matches from today welcome back to part two of today's tennis podcast turning our attention now to the women's fourth round matches that we saw today and the quarterfinals that they have set up starting with the defending champion and world number one for now arena sabalenka and her 6-4-6-3 beating of Taylor Townsend, a match that started with an extravagant entrance for Taylor Townsend onto the Arthur Ashe Stadium in this feather, enormous feather coat type thing.

37:55Very dramatic theatrical stuff. Looked really cool, really fun, really New York. Unfortunately, the match was a bit of a damp squib after that. yeah probably the biggest disappointment of the day i would say like we we've been looking forward to this one since the draw came out really that the possibility of it and especially when we knew it was set up and townsend had been playing really well and there are these doubts swirling around sabalenka given her form coming in here it felt like this should be one of the matches of of the tournament so far and honestly the first few moments of it were intriguing there was five breaks to open the match and it was it was very close uh but it wasn't particularly high quality I suppose um and Townsend with a very unusual missed overhead in that period and she's normally

39:01Catherine Whitaker:so good under that shot but missed it cost her one of those breaks and then i felt like that lingered in her mind a little bit and she wasn't able to put it past her and then sabalenka kind of took over for the rest of that first set until she came to serve it out and then townsend got one of the breaks back again it was just a really scratchy set no one really had proper rhythm um And then that kind of continued in the second set as well. Townsend actually went up a break, but immediately gave it back in the very next game. It was like she couldn't get any momentum going. And I felt like Townsend caught Sabalenka on a day where Sabalenka wasn't serving all that well, which is absolutely what you want.

39:46But then Townsend didn't have the consistency in her own game to take advantage of that.

39:52Catherine Whitaker:And, you know, you think of the match just before the US Open that Sabalenka lost to Sarah Baleck, a lefty like Townsend. But what did Baleck do? Constantly ask the question of Sabalenka, was just there all the time, putting pressure on, almost provoking Sabalenka into potentially letting it slip. township townsend just wasn't able to apply that consistent pressure and it ended up a little bit of a of an amp squid really which was which was a shame because i thought this one was set up to be really exciting and it just didn't think quite deliver on that and i also i also don't therefore feel like i come out of it feeling really convinced by sabalenka which i was expecting to if she passed this test I kind of thought what we said the other night she could go out here or it could be the absolute making of her because she's probably going to have to bring it I was expecting that and I don't feel like I've necessarily got that just because the match just left me wanting a bit more yeah I had exactly the same feeling I left this match I expected after this match to have a sense of where Irina Sabalenka was at and whether something had changed from how I felt about her at the start of the tournament, whether I'd been misreading exactly what a subpar mental state she's been in.

41:21I just don't have that. I went to her press conference to try and get a sense of it. And she wasn't as sassy as she's been in some of her other press conferences, but she definitely seemed a bit over it. You know, she seemed sort of tired and like, let's you know let's let's get this over with she was perfectly perfectly polite it was fine um I asked her about the world number one situation sort of expecting not really to get anything from her but I was trying to get a get a sense of her vibes really I asked her sort of how aware she is of the world number one situation um and and whether sort of it being out of her control is a weird sensation and she just sort of was like it's not in my control so I don't think about it and I don't think I believe that um but I also totally understand why well she doesn't necessarily uh possibly want to tell us the whole truth but yeah I just I'm left wanting more data points about Irina Sabalenka at this tournament I suspect we'll get them in the next round because she's going to be facing the Wimbledon champion Linda Nozkova who came through look if Alcaraz was the performance of the day although I suppose Tiafoe probably needs to be in that conversation but I think Carlos Alcaraz's tennis today has to has to get the performance of the day award the match of the day though no dispute here Linda Nozkova beating Marta Kostchuk 7-5, 5-7, 6-4, winning it on her sixth match point.

43:01She had those match points across two sets. She had two at the end of the second set. She did her now trademark move of leaving the court after choking away match points. Fingers in the ears. Don't know if she found the US Open trophy in the bowels of Louis Armstrong Stadium like she famously did at Wimbledon. saw the trophy on the way back to the court after a loo break and said, I'm coming for you, Venus Rosewater dish. But yes, she comes back onto court and it's a tremendous, competitive, vibrant third set. And Noskova eventually gets over the line on her fourth match point. I loved this match so much, Matt.

43:49Me too. Me too. I was enjoying it anyway, like even if it had ended in straight sets, I think it would have been quite a good match. But the drama that ensued was fantastic. And, you know, we saw them play the semifinal of Wimbledon.

44:10Catherine Whitaker:And that was a time when Noskova was just impenetrable on serve. And this match wasn't like that. You know, Noskova went up a break a couple of times in the first set, Kostiuk got it back. It was it was nip and tuck. But Noskova won that set, takes that lead, has the match points. And when and Kostiuk, by the way, with a couple of phenomenal saves on those match points in the second set, the first one in particular, an amazing cross court forehand and Kostiuk had been getting a little bit down on herself, like the she'd been a little bit negative on the call. I didn't know. I didn't I didn't think she had that sort of come back in her particularly today, but just because those weren't the vibes she was giving off on the court.

44:53But as soon as she saved that first match point with the forehand, it was like she suddenly believed that maybe she could get back into it.

45:01Catherine Whitaker:And it was crazy how reminiscent of the Wimbledon final second set that was for Noskova. As you said, the fingers in the ears, but also the total bailout on some shots. It was like she wanted that set over. It was like she was actually desperate to get off the court. the final shot she hit was a just a slap forehand out like she wanted she wanted it done and isn't it amazing how the sport can just put you back in these positions so so soon you know like the last three deciding sets I think that Nosikov has played have been the same they've been taking the lead having it to win in the second set blowing it and having to regroup in the third the Wimbledon final, the Anne Lee match we saw the other day, and now this one, and yet she keeps doing it.

45:50It's like the ultimate skill to be able to choke and win anyway because the choke is likely going to come. You know, very few players don't choke at some point. But how you recover from it tells you everything. And Noskova regroups so well and makes the match look like the first set again. It's what she did in the Wimbledon final and it's what she did here. and she took the lead again in the third set she holds the court so beautifully with her ground

46:20Catherine Whitaker:stroke she's able to step in and take it on the rise with either her forehand or her backhand and she's got such quiet power like you don't really realize it and suddenly she's hit a winner and yeah got got herself in a position to to win it comfortably but then the match points kept coming and going and she just couldn't win that final one and the match was on a total knife until she eventually got over the line. And I think it's encouraging generally for Kostiuk to have played her closer than she did at Wimbledon and to have found a way back into the match, even if she can't ultimately take it.

46:59And I suppose on the other hand, she does just keep coming up just a little bit short in these big matches, Kostiuk now.

47:08Catherine Whitaker:Like there's a stat going around, isn't there, that she keeps losing to the person who goes on to win the tournament. So she's losing to only good players, but that's the step she needs to take, right? Just her consistency has been remarkable. She's had good wins, but just getting that win against the player who's capable of going on to win the tournament is kind of the one thing that's missing. But it does feel like she's making a lot of progress and getting closer. And as for Noskova to have backed up Wimbledon, like this is amazing. Didn't see this coming. No, and now we're in a situation where we get Sabalenka against the Wimbledon champion.

47:51Like that is such an exciting match to look forward to. And okay, we thought Townsend would be the test of Sabalenka. I feel very sure that Noskova is now the test

48:03Catherine Whitaker:of where Sabalenka is. I think it's very possible that Noskova just takes her out. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It's a totally different level to anything Sabalenka's faced so far. It's also possible that Sabalenka finds it and brings it and then we get convinced by her. It's also possible that you get a bit of a Noskova no-show because we have seen that as well in this summer. Yeah. If you think about it, there have been a couple of matches where she's just almost like not been with us. I don't think that'll happen, But this is a big stage to come on to now as the woman and champion playing the world number one.

48:45And she may freeze. You know, that's also a possibility. Fascinating. I would be surprised. I would be surprised if that happened. It was just such a, just to finish off the chat about Nozkovi Kostiuk. These are, I think Vicky put it beautifully on our group chat, didn't she? that these have been to the stories of the year in women's tennis, these two players who have totally reframed themselves in terms of their place and relevance in the talk. I looked it up, Kostiuk was seeded 27th here last year and Noskova was seeded 21st. And this year they're 11th and 6th. So they've kind of made sort of similar equivalent style.

49:37Obviously, Nautica has made the big leap of becoming a Grand Slam champion, but they've made leaps of similar magnitude, I would say, and they've just been such welcome revelations on the tour this year.

49:53Catherine Whitaker:Yes, and I think, again, I think it was Vicky as well who said that they match up well against each other because they both have an intensity to them, but Noskova's is inner. You know, it's quiet. But my goodness, she's locked in on the match, whereas Kostiuk's is much more outward and there's a sort of ferocity to her play. And that contrast is really intriguing to watch. That's very well put because you can feel Noskova's intensity

50:24Matt Roberts:even though she's not demonstrative. She's not Bortick. Who is? Do you know what I mean, though? Like, it's not... Yeah, I haven't got a better way to put that. It's not... Bortick is the ultimate example, I think. I'm not saying he doesn't care, but it's not intense, is it? No, but there's a similar facade, in a way, from Noshkova. She doesn't let you in, but you know it's there. You do know it's bubbling under there. And I mean, look, it helps that she's been so transparent with the way she's choked in these moments and come back. That shows a ferocious competitor, I think, because it'd be so easy to walk away in those situations and give yourself a bit of an out and say...

51:18David Law:And I wouldn't have a go at anybody who did that, but I think to dig as deep as she has and face up to the choke and come back several times now, it's one of the revelations of the year.

51:33Matt Roberts:It's quite a trademark move to have, isn't it? To go off the court with the fingers in the ears after choking. Yeah, she's so cool. I think she's brilliant. So Nojkova against Sabalenka at the very top of the draw. The second quarterfinal set up is Jessica Bagula against... Now, if you're hearing me say this, the answer is Emma Navarro, because she's currently a set in 5-2 on Anna Kalinskaya. If you're not hearing this, there's really no point in me finishing this sentence. But we will have gone on to re-record this segment of the podcast because Anna Kalinskaya will have pulled off an extraordinary comeback from a set in 5-2 down.

52:11but it's looking an awful lot like it's going to be Jessica Bagula who beat Sarana Castella today 6-3, 6-4 against Emma Navarro, an All-American quarterfinal, David. Yeah, fascinating because I think we would have all put Jessica Bagula and we did in this position expecting her to be in the quarterfinals and to go further than that. I don't remember too many people talking about Navarro but she's quietly had some results this year. um you know she's she also had a period away from the the tour because of health issues

52:45David Law:and i mean first and foremost i remember when she had her run here a couple of years ago and it was brilliant to watch her play and and and i think it's it's awesome that she's playing like this again and she is a threat i think she can beat people again she's a there's something a little bit Noskova-like about the way she just quietly just devastates you um and the pressure will be on Pagula um certainly certainly from a an expectation standpoint from the external people like ourselves we would we would think Pagula will win that it's a tough head-to-head for Navarro though that one isn't it with Pagula yeah Pagula has has dominated it um Yeah, look, Pagoula today against Castella, the one thing that slightly worried me is her serving.

53:39You know, we talked a lot about how she needs to have that shot

53:43Catherine Whitaker:finely tuned and where it was at the start of the year. She was down at 46 % for serves in. And I think at this stage of the tournament, she needs to up that, you know, because it just causes a bit of chaos in the matches. and she's better than that. She can back up a decent first serve much better than that. And it was a match where Pagula won the first 13 points against Castello and you think, wow, she's absolutely flying. And then next thing you know, it's almost back to three all. She just is a bit vulnerable still in her service games. There was 10 breaks in this match tonight and she had a 4-1 lead in the second set and that got that got reduced uh she went to serve it out and she got broken you know she just keeps suffering these little setbacks in matches and i think a lot of that is is to do with the serve and i just feel like someone like emma navarro will really test that you know like she's she she hangs tough she you can think you've shaken her off and there she is still going still running still chasing it down she's got decent hands as well emma navarro you know she's got she's got a slice backhand which you know mix up the shape of the rallies and maybe take Pagula out of some of her rhythm that she likes but I am still backing Pagula this is not me talking myself out of Pagula but I think it's going to be a real test for her.

55:16I'm super pleased for Emma Navarro she's had a tough old year and yeah I'm not sure or not sure anybody was expecting this of her. And I'm really chuffed to see her in this position. I think the head-to-head is pretty compelling there. But I think she's got a shot, Navarro, there, really do. I think so. I think maybe the lack of expectation helps her. And I have such admiration for Pekula, how she just keeps on delivering. She doesn't tend to underperform. But I do think that when you're looking in these stages for an extra bit, aren't you? You want to elevate. I think it might be a bit easier to elevate from Navarro's position because she can maybe be more free.

56:13It's going to be fascinating. Five quarter finalists for the US from today. Happy Labour Day, everybody. That's tomorrow, isn't it? And in part three, we will talk about the Labour Day order of play. It might surprise you. Welcome back to part three of today's tennis podcast. We're going to look ahead now to tomorrow's order of play. It's great to be able to say tomorrow when it is actually tomorrow, because it is still today. I'm impressed you remembered how to do that. Tomorrow's order of play, officially Labour Day. And that means that the day session is the hot ticket, certainly in terms of ESPN and broadcasters.

56:56And that makes tomorrow's day session, Arthur Ashe Stadium, order of play, particularly interesting. It opens at 11.30 a.m. with Igor Shantek against Jung Chin-Wen. That is my match of the day. I cannot wait. I was hoping not to see it in the early slot. I really hope people are there and seated and bring some atmos for that match because I cannot wait. Following it onto the Arthurash Stadium. I mean, great players totally earned their place here. But this is not what the tournament or ESPN had in mind for their primetime Labor Day slot. It is Francisco Serangelo against Alexander Blocks. Yeah, I mean, they're good players.

57:51And the fact that they're in the last 16 tells you that they're playing really well and avert their place. But, you know, that is the lowest key Arthrash Stadium court match I think I've come across in all my years. and they may make their name this fortnight. But for that to be chosen on Labor Day, when you, I mean, look, the TV may well be showing the Louis Armstrong match instead of that. I just can't see ESPN wanting to show best of five set version of that match.

58:32Matt Roberts:And the reason we think that they have had to do this is, I mean, it's a good reason. it's fairness but but the reason fairness looks like this is because of the flipping schedule yes exactly i think all things being equal the two men's matches that they would have wanted on the arthur ash stadium tomorrow would have been the top seed alexander zverev against darderi and that is on the arthur ash stadium that's the second night match and then the other one they would have wanted would have been the american learner tn against karen hakshanov but zverev as we've talked about has been stuck in this loop of playing in the middle of the night and he was out there the other night playing late again it would have been pretty unfair i think to put him in the day session and then learner tn got stuck last night playing against yakov mencik really late in fact that was the later finish so it would have been unfair to make learner tn come back and and play in the night so they they needed to get both of those matches on late and learner tn karen hashanov is the final match on armstrong it's not an official night session um over labor

59:50Catherine Whitaker:day weekend but it's it'll be on you know in the early evening so that's enough rest time but But yeah, it's sort of come back to them, I suppose, with the fact that the two matches they wanted to have on the Arthur Ashe Stadium, they can't for fairness reasons because they were both playing ridiculously late. Yeah, Arthur Ashe night session tomorrow. Evie Jovic against Coco Goff, another all-American clash. And second on Alexander Zverev remaining trapped in his loop,

1:00:21Matt Roberts:taking on Luciano Darderi, the 21st seed from Italy, who I don't think we've talked about yet. No, and he's a good player and he's beaten Zverev before, albeit under very different conditions on the clay in Rome. I just think we're now at a point where this schedule is really benefiting Zverev in terms of his progress because he's playing people who haven't played in the middle of the night, and he's played all of his matches at that time, so he's now getting used to it. There will be a flip side to that because eventually if he carries on, he's going to have to play earlier. And then we'll see if that affects him negatively.

1:01:04But Darderi is a very good player. And he's got some swagger about him, hasn't he? He doesn't, like you say about Vachero, although Vachero didn't necessarily live up to this

1:01:19Matt Roberts:against Francis Tiafoe the other night, he doesn't place limits on himself. I feel like Darderi is one of those guys.

1:01:25David Law:Yeah. Shot maker, likes to thrill, likes to sort of be the guy. Whether he can get into it is the big question mark because Verev is improving, certainly. I mean, the first and third sets he played against Tabila last night were very good. The second set really wasn't, and he was lucky. He said the same. But he might be able to sort of shut the door on Darderi before Darderi really gets a chance to get his foothold. If he can, though, you know, the crowd might like him. Speaking of players that have flown under the radar up until now, over on Armstrong kicking off at 11 a.m., Mira Andrava against Anastasia Potapova.

1:02:07I feel like we've barely talked about Andrava, the reigning French Open champion. Yes, and I think I heard Laura Robson say today that she's dropped the fewest games of anyone to get through to that point. I think the Barton Cove match was the one that stood out in terms of being impressive. That was a test and she came through it. Yeah, you're right. Like a Grand Sam champion this year, I suppose partly it's because of my expectations of her coming in here, given the form she'd been in and some of the performances she'd put in. I hadn't, like, I guess I was putting her in my mix just out of respect for the level that I know she's capable of and we've seen it come together this year.

1:02:52Catherine Whitaker:But I sort of wasn't really expecting her to win this tournament. I certainly had a few people above her. But she's been very good and she's avoided playing Amanda Nisimov. So great news for her. Bit like Nozgava, really. Yes. Hasn't had the best hard court summer before this US Open. and felt like maybe it was the, you know, it's tough winning your first slam and having to just bounce back onto the relentless tennis tour and go again. I was kind of giving them both a free pass for the rest of the summer, but neither of them want it. And that's absolutely fine. So Andreeva Potopova, the first match on Armstrong.

1:03:36Then it is some women's doubles round three action with the top seeds, Katerina Siniarkova and Taylor Townsend taking on Storm Hunter and Desiree Kravchick, the 13th seeds. Then it is Naomi Osaka and Elena Rabakina, which is a match I rather suspect they hope will clash

1:03:55Matt Roberts:with Blox and Surundalo so that they can show this instead. Yes, and we're not meaning to throw shade at Surundalo and Blox, who've done really well to get to this point. And it's just that those matches are more enticing, aren't they?

1:04:15David Law:On paper, certainly. I'm really looking forward to watching Osaka against Rebekah. And obviously there's this wonderful narrative about world number one and Rebekah being two matches away from being the world number one if she gets to the semifinals. So there's loads at stake. And, yeah. Who's the favourite? Well, I think on paper, Rebekah is the favourite, but I'm actually going to go Osaka. I saw their match a few weeks ago and Osaka should have won it. And with the remaining question mark about Rebecca's injury, inverted commas, I say that not because she didn't have one but because it looks like she's recovered from it, but it's still not a zero factor for me.

1:05:03David Law:I'm going to go Osaka, but she hasn't been able to shut the door on her matches in the way she would have wanted to. What do you two think?

1:05:15I'm confused about Rebecca, really confused. I know we changed our policy to assume she's fine until proven otherwise. I just can't get it out of my head the way I saw her not that long ago. but Osaka hasn't quite been in the form I thought she might be as you said like not shutting the door on matches letting people back in the serve hasn't always been firing like it did for example when she managed to get a win of this caliber at Wimbledon over Sabalenka

1:05:56I think if we assume Rabatkin is fine. I think I will lean Rabatkin in that one. But who knows?

1:06:07Matt Roberts:I think I feel the same but that's it's a big if, isn't it? And all of my Rabatkin takes up to this point on this podcast have been inaccurate. So make of that what you will. Last match of the day on Armstrong tomorrow. As Matt says, not an official night session. It's all well it's not quite followed by it's not before 4pm but it's Karen Hashinov against Lerner TN we are big TN fans in this Tennis Podcast Towers household aren't we what a watch she is yeah and we were watching last night we didn't pod after it for once but we were watching and loving it we got emails this match was a scene against jakub menchik you know it was a there's menchik had his own personal heckler who had to be kicked out that was incredible that's that's the level we're talking about booze were ringing around because of it and get him out get him out amazing second only to finish her yes in the benchik putin saver match yeah that that is the heckle that will never be beaten yeah um but men's as as we've become used to was going through these ups and downs of energy i suppose and you know seemed to revive himself after the end of the fourth set where he

1:07:39Catherine Whitaker:was really cramping and he came out absolutely leathering the ball in in the fifth and it was up to tn to to live with that but i love learner tn's tennis i i just love watching him maneuver and massage the ball around the court and he changes direction with the ball so easily it's a it's a joy and I do think he could do that to Hashinov I think he can make him look clunky make him look a bit clunky I think there's also potentially a world where Hashinov just drags him through it and stands up to him and that's going to be a real test for TN. This is a big match for him, you know, like probably the biggest of his career, trying to get to a quarterfinal.

1:08:29And then in the quarterfinal, he would know he would have a shot again into a semi because it's Sarundalo or blocks. Like it's not easy, but he would back himself. So it's a big match and Hachnoff has played more of those. So that's possible.

1:08:43Catherine Whitaker:but I just rate Tien's tennis so highly and his IQ so highly. And maybe Mensik's not the worst person to have played before playing Hashanov. There's a slight similarity of style. I think he's a slow heartbeat guy as well, Tien. I think he keeps his composure. Yeah. In big moments and on stages that he's never been on before. This is already uncharted territory for Lunditian, but I cannot wait to watch him again. And we will be back at the end of all of that to do another podcast. Hello to Leo, who really is doing a photo shoot today. I know, it's good, isn't it? Leo is out here working harder than any of us.

1:09:33Vicky says, should the US Open ever consider appointing Bulldogs, Leo would like it to be known that he is ready, willing and able. Look, I've had a Bulldogs campaign on the go for many years and no one's listening to me, so... Who knows? He is wearing his Boston Celtics jersey, which proves he has suitable sports experience. Do we like the Celtics? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah, I like the Celtics. OK. They're green jerseys, aren't they? The green suits him. He looks very handsome. I'll be popping that on our Instagram. Hello to our mascots. Hello, Bodie. Hello, Maisie. Hello, Roger. Hello to our top folks and executive producers, Greg, Chris and Jeff.

1:10:15That is a second hello of the day for two of those executive producers, Greg and Chris. We saw today and said hello in person and it was very lovely to see both of them. It was. We were we were on our way to see Greg for a prearranged meetup and we bumped into Chris. Jeff where are you Jeff get your ass down to the Billie Jean King National Tennis Centre if you are coming Jeff it would be lovely to see you you are one of our top folks and we salute you and just before we go if you're an NFL fan we've been telling you about something really exciting that the Athletic has to offer starting from next week the Athletic Live presented by Google Gemini is a brand new YouTube watch along on NFL game days featuring the biggest and the best beat reporters the Athletic has to offer.

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From the publisher

It was a strong day for the American men at Flushing Meadows as Frances Tiafoe, Ben Shelton and Alex Michelsen all booked their spots in the quarter-finals, but the performance of the day came from Carlos Alcaraz. Catherine Whitaker, David Law and Matt Roberts discuss it all.

Part one - We start by analysing Alcaraz’s win over Tommy Paul which saw him produce a phenomenal level. Does Alzaraz’s form mean that David has changed his mind about what will happen when Alcaraz faces Shelton? We preview that match and discuss what, if anything, Shelton will have to do to win. There’s also discussion of Tiafoe’s amazing victory over Daniil Medvedev and the incredible scenes on the Louis Armstrong Stadium as Tiafoe maintained his 100% record on that court.

Part two (37:21) - We discuss Aryna Sabalenka’s straight-sets win over Taylor Townsend. Why was the match a bit disappointing? And did we learn much about Sabalenka ahead of her quarter-final against Linda Noskova? There’s a review of Noskova’s gripping win over Marta Kostyuk which saw her choke and win anyway once again. We also look ahead to Jessica Pegula vs Emma Navarro after both players won through.

Part three (56:30) - A look ahead to Monday’s order of play, which includes a surprising men’s match on the Arthur Ashe Stadium as well as Zheng Qinwen vs Iga Swiatek and Naomi Osaka vs Elena Rybakina.

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