Will Serena play singles at Wimbledon?

18 Jun 2026 · 1 h 22 min · 35 chapters

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In short

Wimbledon wildcard announcements and grass-court build-up, plus tournament quarterfinal talk (Berlin WTA 500, Nottingham WTA 250, Queen’s ATP 500) and injury/news items.

Guests

David (co-host), Matt (co-host; returned after a trip to Chicago), Catherine (co-host). They discuss tennis results and Wimbledon entries.

Key claims

  • Serena Williams’ final Wimbledon singles wildcard is still unknown; doubles wildcard for Serena/Venus is confirmed. The hosts debate whether Serena will play singles, with speculation that the remaining wildcard may be held for her.
  • Wildcards are becoming “existential”/controversial; they argue Dan Evans should have received a singles wildcard despite announcing retirement.
  • On Berlin grass, Rebecca Sram? (Rybakina) is in a slump despite controlling matches; Madison Keys is framed as a “dormant volcano” (dangerous but inconsistent).
  • Sabalenka is expected to win Berlin and is a strong Wimbledon favorite, though the draw is tough (e.g., Bartonkova).

Notable examples

  • Wimbledon women’s wildcards: Maja Chvelinska gets a singles main-draw wildcard; British players Harriet Dart, Alicia Dudeney, Hannah Klugman, Mika Stoyslav Savjevic, Katie Swan, Mimi Zhu; one wildcard still to be announced.
  • Men’s wildcards: Grigor Dimitrov and Stan Wawrinka get them; no wildcard for Dan Evans (or Nick Kyrgios singles; only doubles for Kyrgios).
  • Berlin match highlight: Alexandra Ayala beats Wimbledon champion Elena Rybakina after trailing early, driven by return/serve stats and late-set surge.
  • Injury/news: Lorenzo Sone? (Mazzetti) out of Wimbledon; Alcaraz wrist support reducing and possible scan next week.
  • Queen’s ATP: Corentin Moutet’s repeated “fuck” in an on-court interview becomes a standout moment.

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Sports Watching Challenges

0:45 to 3:08

The hosts discuss the overwhelming amount of sports events happening concurrently.

“That was me just trying to watch three lots of tennis because I was watching Queen's Halle and Berlin.”

Matt's Return from Chicago

3:08 to 4:50

Matt shares his experience from his trip to Chicago and the challenges faced.

“I don't know, Matt, if you listen to our podcast from Sunday, but wildcard drama is on the rise, right?”

Wimbledon Wildcard Announcements

4:50 to 7:20

The hosts delve into the wildcard announcements for Wimbledon, focusing on Serena Williams.

“What we do know is that Maja Chvelinska will be.”

Serena Williams' Potential Return

7:20 to 9:20

Discussion on whether Serena Williams will play singles at Wimbledon and the implications.

“Like, what's she going to be doing for all this time?”

Doubles Excitement vs. Singles Concerns

9:20 to 12:06

The hosts weigh the excitement of Serena's possible doubles play against concerns for singles.

“I'm really torn because there's a big part of me that just always wants the drama and the story.”

The Wildcard Debate

12:06 to 14:00

An exploration of the criteria and interest factors in awarding wildcards in tennis.

“But I, you know, in this whole wildcard debate, to me, it comes down to what most enhances the tournament in terms of who should get a wildcard and who shouldn't.”

Discussion on Wildcards in Tennis

14:00 to 18:03

Exploring the criteria and impact of awarding wildcards in tennis tournaments.

“OK, David, I'm using an extreme silly example to make my point.”

Controversy Over Dan Evans' Exclusion

18:03 to 19:11

Debating the decision to exclude popular player Dan Evans from receiving a wildcard.

“He's made some bad errors of judgment in his career, but he's come back from them, had a really good representation of Great Britain and was brilliant alongside Andy Murray.”

Wimbledon News and Player Updates

19:11 to 21:45

Updates on player injuries and their implications for Wimbledon participation.

“wild cards are to give opportunities to young players, but a lot of these players are not that young.”

Celebrity Sightings and Tennis Personalities

21:45 to 24:27

Discussing player appearances at events outside of tennis, and their non-tennis activities.

“with the injury he sustained in Rome that also kept him out of Roland Garros.”
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WTA 500 Tournament in Berlin

25:40 to 28:00

Previewing the exciting matchups and players in the WTA 500 tournament.

“Welcome back to part two of today's tennis podcast.”

Analyzing Ayala's Performance

28:00 to 28:40

Explore how Ayala shocked Rabakina with her return game.

“and then she won six of the last seven games of the first set to win it.”

Return Strategies and Match Momentum

28:40 to 29:40

Discuss strategic moments and shifts in momentum during the match.

“But Matt, I think she really shocked Rebecca with her return.”

Rabakina's Recent Struggles

29:40 to 31:00

Examine Rabakina's recent performance downturn and its implications.

“And even when she was serving out the match, she was 15-30 down and it could have got away from her then and she held firm.”

Badosa's Comeback Journey

31:00 to 32:55

Discuss Badosa's comeback and her physical challenges in tennis.

“Yes, I suppose that might explain that performance.”

Badosa's On-Court Drama

32:55 to 34:40

Highlight Badosa's emotional moments and candid press conference remarks.

“that is a little bit concerning, I think, for Rebecca Knur.”

Gauff's Grass Court Challenges

34:40 to 36:25

Analyze Gauff's struggles on grass and signs of promise.

“She said, oh, the headline's going to be...”

Madison Keys: The Dormant Volcano

36:25 to 37:55

Debate the potential and current state of Madison Keys' career.

“And, yeah, I think for Goff, that's four grass court losses in a row now.”

Keys' Grass Court Performance History

37:55 to 42:06

Reflect on Madison Keys' past performances on grass and future possibilities.

“And yet I feel like she is just a permanently dormant volcano and has been for her whole career.”

Analyzing Recent Matches and Player Form

42:06 to 43:58

Explore standout performances and players' potential in upcoming matches.

“And so it's been a surprise really to me that she hasn't had more results on it.”

The Challenge for Sabalenka in Wimbledon

43:58 to 45:57

Discuss Sabalenka's journey and challenges leading into Wimbledon.

“They're able to predict these things more accurately than Keyes' eruptions.”

The Doping Case of Marketa Vondrousova

45:57 to 48:25

Update on Vondrousova's doping case and implications for her participation.

“You know, a good week in Berlin would be a big deal for her.”

Looking Ahead to Nottingham's WTA 250 Event

48:25 to 52:06

Preview the Nottingham event and key players to watch out for.

“The case centres on her refusing entry to a doping control officer in December of last year.”

Transition to Men's Tennis: Queen's Club Preview

52:06 to 53:01

Begin a discussion on the men's tournament at Queen's Club.

“A lot of bending down low, which is not Pliskova's favourite thing to do, is it?”

Quarterfinal Matchups and Player Insights

53:01 to 56:00

Detailed insights into upcoming quarterfinal matchups at Queen's.

“Let's start in London at Queen's and the ATP 500 event there.”

Analyzing Recent Grass Court Matches

56:00 to 57:44

Discussing standout players and match dynamics on grass courts.

“And he's now, I think, coached by Nicholas Massoud, is Sarundolo.”

Bertic's Surprising Tweener Lob

57:44 to 58:58

Reaction to Bertic's unexpected tweener shot and its reception.

Corentin Moutet's Controversial Interview

58:58 to 1:01:16

Discussing Corentin Moutet's swearing incident during an interview.

“And then he was urged not to say fuck because that's a problem on the BBC or presumably lots of broadcast networks in the middle of the day by the interviewer Jenny Drummond, who I thought handled it very well.”

Predictions for Upcoming Matches

1:01:16 to 1:02:39

Hosts share their predictions for upcoming tournaments and matchups.

Analyzing Player Form and Strategies

1:02:39 to 1:08:16

Discussion on the current forms of players like Fritz and Shelton.

“And the other ATP 500 tournament happening this week, the quarterfinals there, look thus.”

Outlook for Wimbledon and Player Opportunities

1:08:16 to 1:10:01

Exploring the potential impact of player absences and conditions at Wimbledon.

“I don't trust Medvedev, but I just think the fact he's in the other half might help him a little bit.”

Wimbledon Predictions and Player Opportunities

1:10:01 to 1:12:08

Discussion on players' chances and the impact of weather on Wimbledon.

“Wimbledon ends up being a big opportunity, certainly on a half of the draw.”

Meet Our Mascot: Maggie the Bernese Mountain Dog

1:12:09 to 1:13:35

Introduction of Maggie, a Bernese mountain dog, as the podcast mascot.

“We will be back on Monday, though, to do an autopsy on all of those predictions that I've just demanded from us all.”

Listener Shoutouts and Wimbledon Memories

1:13:36 to 1:17:40

Hosts share listener stories and experiences related to Wimbledon.

“I have Bodhi relying on Nicola Bartonkova for points this week.”

Upcoming Events and Personal Updates

1:17:41 to 1:21:31

Hosts talk about their upcoming plans for Wimbledon and related events.

“Yeah, I'm getting my shark ninja chill pill fired up.”
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Transcript

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0:10Hello and welcome to the Tennis Podcast coming to you on a sunny Thursday evening here in London. I've managed to squeeze in tonight's pod between Harry Styles concerts, which I know is very dedicated and professional of me. We are all three of us juggling an absolutely monumental volume of sports watching at the moment. It's a heroic effort from all of us. David, you had four screens on the go earlier, possibly five. Yeah, and that was pre-football. The World Cup hadn't even started at that point. That was me just trying to watch three lots of tennis because I was watching Queen's Halle and Berlin.

0:53I had nowhere for Nottingham to go because I did also want to keep an eye on the US Open golf. So now the World Cup started as well, you know, with Bosnia playing at the moment, I'm a bit struggling now. And I've got to do this podcast. So, you know, one of the screens had to go. Yeah, it's our struggle is real at the moment, folks. There's there's a lot to take in. The good news tonight, though, David, is we are not on our own because Matt is back. He's not quite in one piece, but he is at least not in Chicago anymore. Welcome, Matt. Thank you. Good to be back. What has Illinois done to you? I am wiped out, guys.

1:42You know that day at a slam when I just crashed and hit the wall? I felt like that this entire week you know what that looks like yeah but I had a good time who would have thought that a trip to to America in between in between slams and all the attendant jet lag who would have thought that would be a bad idea I know I know I experienced my first ever tornado warning that was that was quite something was only a warning but there was one I think like 30 miles away. Not the tornado warning. Was the trip good? It was a great trip. Thank you. Yes. Saw a good amount of Chicago. Shout out Matt Futterman for his Chicago recommendations.

2:32Had some deep dish pizza. Went on the boat tour. Art Institute. Watched game five of the NBA finals. I did all the things. and had a great time at the wedding as well. Okay. Well done, Matt. Please recover for next week. We need a Robert's reset. We do. It's very nice to have you back, Matt. And there is a lot to talk about. And before we talk about the tennis, four events going on this week, and we are going to talk about that and the results that we've seen so far and look ahead to what might happen over the weekend We are going to start with the wildcard announcements from Wimbledon this week, which were for a lot of reasons and maybe one big reason more hotly anticipated than ever before.

3:27I don't know, Matt, if you listen to our podcast from Sunday, but wildcard drama is on the rise, right? It's right up there with puking and hindrance. Yeah, I think it might be top of all of them, perhaps. I was thinking about this. I think because we've just been in this era as well, haven't we? Where so many players have been retiring and needing wildcards to get into tournaments for send-offs. I feel like that's been a theme of tennis for what feels like forever, but certainly the last few years. And that has then taken spots away from other people. And now, of course, with your movement, Catherine, you know, we're questioning the very existence of wildcards.

4:18So I agree with you. Definitely on the rise. It's been a really great bit of timing for getting an existential wildcard debate off the ground. I've really been helped out by circumstances here. Let's start with the women's and the one big reason there was a lot of attention on the wildcard announcements this week. And the announcement that we still don't know if Serena Williams is going to play singles at Wimbledon. What we do know is that Maja Chvelinska will be. She has been granted a singles main draw wildcard along with the British players Harriet Dart, Alicia Dudeney, Hannah Klugman, Mika Stoyslav Savjevic, Katie Swan and Mimi Zhu with one wildcard still to be announced.

5:16First, Serena Williams and Venus Williams have received a doubles wildcard, which is fun and great. And I think not at all unexpected. Serena said in her press conference in Berlin this week that it was her daughter that had suggested the idea of her and Venus playing doubles together as if that was sort of a novel light bulb moment. They've won the six titles together. do you think David and Matt David I'll come to you first do you think that final singles wild card is going to Serena Williams you know it shows how good she is at building drama and anticipation doesn't it that I sit here and I go back and forwards about what what I think she's going to do.

6:13And I still haven't really confidently made up my mind. I mean, I listened to her conversation with Ben Rothenberg and Berlin. He did a very good job, I thought, of asking the important questions to her and being very direct. And she kind of played with him because that's what she does. You know, she sort of played with him and didn't say yes and didn't say no. She tried to turn it around to him and said, you know, do you think, you know, what do you think? And I don't know, I think she is at the very least tempted and certainly going to play singles in the future. I believe she will play singles in the future.

6:53And I think she may have already decided no, but is finding it entertaining. That is a possibility. She may not know even yet, or be leaving it until the absolute very last second. or she may know and she just wants to make sure she doesn't sort of so do i think she will get one about 10 minutes before we recorded i decided no i thought she would not play and then when you start to do the intro i changed my mind maybe the question is or the more answerable question is is that final wild card being held for her if she decides she wants it is do you do you sense or is your hunch matt that that is the situation here yes i think so it's not unusual is it for wild cards to come out in stages they do they do often do this release a bunch and then release some others so that in itself wasn't unusual but I mean if Serena Williams says she'd like the final wild card I can't see who else it's going to above her so in that sense I think it's there for her if she wants it she's already at Wimbledon isn't she she was she was training there today it seems like a very long running if you're just playing doubles and your doubles partner is not there because Venus is in bad Homburg, right?

8:33Like, what's she going to be doing for all this time? I mean, I think generally she wants court time, doesn't she? And all the time she can spend hitting balls. I think we even saw that in her second match back, the one that she played with Mukava, I thought she already looked sharper than she had done in her first match with Mboko at Queen's. Like everything is going to help her and accelerate the form that she's in. But yeah, I don't know. I've got to sneak. I've thought that she wouldn't. Actually, I've gone the other way. I've thought that she wouldn't play singles at Wimbledon. But given that wild card still there, given she's already at Wimbledon, I'm starting to go the other way and think that she will.

9:16I'm not sure it's the right decision. But it's definitely the fun decision and I do sort of hope it happens. Yeah. Do you? That's interesting. I'm really torn because there's a big part of me that just always wants the drama and the story. And it's a heck of a story, isn't it? And it will be an occasion and a moment and drama. And my heart always wants that. Imagine the draw. Yeah, that would be fun. Yeah. But I mean, I just don't think she can be competitive in singles. I do think, you know, father time is the one thing nobody can defeat. I think it is too late. I think with an incredibly kind draw, with a bit of luck on her side, the way Martina Navratilova had in 2004, she could maybe get a win.

10:17you know especially with the element of you know the aura um you know i could see people shitting themselves definitely and i could see serena being incredible for a 44 nearly 45 year old i think she's going to be incredible i just think that yeah i i think that i think it's too late um and you know i i will get a kick out of seeing her play i think a lot of the benefits of her coming back you know the the attention and the the publicity on the sport and the representation um you know that she always that she always brings will get that from her playing doubles like i think that'll be really fun and i think you know 44 is no big deal at all in doubles really let alone for for people that good like at doubles i think brilliant singles i think is just such a different kettle of fish yeah i i do agree generally i don't really have any anxiety about the doubles i think that is just all positive and all great and i can't wait to see her partner venus the anxiety i most have i think with the singles is actually just i'd be worried about injury you know when you when you haven't played on grass for a while and you haven't played singles in a while and it'd be a first match back and she got injured at Wimbledon a few a few years ago as well like we see people go down on the grass and I would just worry about it a bit from that standpoint I think I'd be a bit clenched the entire time she's sort of moving across the baseline I I suppose.

11:59But I agree with you that I wouldn't have any hopes or expectations for like a really deep run. For me, it would be it would be about the occasion of one or two matches. But I, you know, in this whole wildcard debate, to me, it comes down to what most enhances the tournament in terms of who should get a wildcard and who shouldn't. and you know I think Sweeney Williams to me makes that makes that draw more interesting if if she's in it next Friday ahead of whoever else could be in it at this stage so that's why I kind of want to see it but I do agree about the general anxiety so the so existentially that's what you if you were Mr Wildcard and they brought you in to every tournament to decide who gets the wildcards I mean I would hate you

12:57please don't rebrand as Mr Wildcard that would be a problem in our relationship but that would be the basis on which you would be awarding them that's what you like to see them being used for yeah and I realise that's a difficult thing to measure and I realise that a lot of these tournaments have other interests there, whether it be at the other slams, the reciprocal wildcards, or for British tennis events like you were talking about on the pod the other day, trying to enhance British tennis. I realise that these form part of the wildcard decisions as well. But for me, the most important thing is making the tournament more interesting.

13:44You'd go Hollywood. Yeah, within reason. But then what if, like, you know, Tom Hanks asked for a wild card? That would be interesting. But... Yeah, but, you know, like... He's not registered in the doping pool, is he? OK, David, I'm using an extreme silly example to make my point. Well, I think Serena is about as extreme as you get, right? Serena is about as extreme as you get. Retired years ago, hasn't played for ages. I mean, Venus. Yeah. And I think some of the scenes at Venus's matches over the last year or so have, in my opinion, justified those wild cards in terms of the crowds that have come out to see her.

14:30And, OK, she hasn't been particularly competitive recently, but she did get a win last year and she had some good matches. Like, to me, that's a big part of it. Of course, balancing, like trying to help out young players as well and honour former champions. This is all part of it. But I think that does form part of the interest of of wild cards. You know, young players are interesting. Former champions are going to be interesting to people. And trying to get that balance right would be would be how I think wild cards should be should be handed out. A lot of attention on the men's wildcards as well.

15:08Not quite the sort of big Hollywood moment of whether Serena Williams would be on the list. But the men's is where we've got a lot of these retiring greats or certainly retiring very popular players. Grigor Dimitrov, no sign of him retiring, but has had an absolutely horrific 12 months since he had to retire from his match against Yannick Sinner at Wimbledon last year with that rib injury, I think it was, wasn't it? Pectoral, tors. Pectoral, yeah, sort of torso. And Wimbledon have awarded Grigor Dimitrov a wildcard, as we all hoped and expected they might. Slightly more surprising, I think, is Stan Rorinka being awarded a wildcard.

15:52I know it's his final Wimbledon, but he's never really done anything of note at Wimbledon. So I don't think that one was a gimme. Nothing for Guermont Fils. So he won't be playing Wimbledon one last time. Nothing for Matteo Berrettini, although I do think he is very likely to make the cut. He only needs one or two. He's in now. He's in. Okay, fine. That's a problem solved, I think, Berrettini getting in on his ranking. And nothing for Nick Kyrgios, former finalist. He's got a doubles wildcard only. And nothing, David, for Dan Evans, who is hoping to play one last Wimbledon, having announced his upcoming retirement in the last week.

16:35There are a lot of British players receiving wildcards. You've got Arthur Ferry, Jack Pennington-Jones, Felix Gill, Toby Samuel and Henry Wendell Ken, who's a new one on me. I saw him play at Queen's earlier this week. It's, well, it's provoked a lot of opinion. Dan Evans in particular not receiving a wildcard, David. Obviously, yesterday or two days ago, we dropped your fantastic interview with Dan Evans. at the time that that was recorded he didn't know whether he'd be receiving a Wimbledon wildcard or any wildcards this grass court season and it turns out he hasn't he'll be in qualifying hoping to um to get a berth in in the main draw but this is another decision that really spotlights okay what are these for what what are wildcards for yeah it's definitely shaken my kind of faith in them and the process behind them.

17:44I mean, because look, I accept that it is subjective and somebody has to make a decision. Somebody's going to get them. Somebody isn't. But I think it's just spectacularly tone deaf to not give Dan Evans a wild card when he's not going to play anymore. You know, he's very popular in the UK. on the most part. He's made some bad errors of judgment in his career, but he's come back from them, had a really good representation of Great Britain and was brilliant alongside Andy Murray. And he's calling time on his career and what, you know? I feel like if all of the others were an absolute shoo-in and I can see some of them, then all right.

18:33but I think given six British players wild cards on the men's side you could make a case I guess at his expense and look I'll come back to it again why are we creating this culture of players just getting this hand out at this young age toughen them up stick them in qualifying let them come through, fight it out, earn their place in the draw. You know, I think they've made a mistake. Yeah, I know there's a lot of suggestion that, you know, wild cards are to give opportunities to young players, but a lot of these players are not that young. And OK, a lot of them have been through the US college system.

19:24So, you know, 23, they might be 23, but still in the early days of their professional career. But on the women's side, you've got 27-year-old Katie Swan, who I think is receiving her seventh wildcard. You've got 29-year-old Harriet Dart, who has got in on her ranking before, but has also had a number of wildcards. I just don't understand how choices like that fit in with the argument of not giving one to Dan Evans, I suppose. who has done considerably more for Great Britain over the course of his career. Also, the devastating news for David that no wildcard for Oliver Tarvit. So Tarvit time is on the back burner.

20:13He's better in qualies like last year, coming through, making waves. They're all better off in the bloody qualies. It's Tarvit time at Roehampton. Yeah, that's where they should be. Get them some, you know, They're going to face lower-ranked players, for goodness sake, get some momentum and get in the draw and, like him, win a round and actually perform pretty well against Carlos Alcaraz. He's going to get a heck of a crowd and a lot of support, isn't he, Arampton, Dan Evans, however far he might go. But, yeah, I think he's going to have a good send-off there if that's what it ends up being. And maybe that's more fitting for Dan Evans anyway.

20:53I don't know but I think biased as we might be we all we all hope he qualifies don't we oh yeah yeah absolutely I mean I guess they're gonna say he's gonna get a send off moment at Wimbledon because they've given him a doubles wild card I mean I I don't think that's the same and I definitely think it's not Gale and friends is it nothing's Gale and friends I think he was definitely worthy of a singles wildcard especially when you've got eight it's not like they're really short of them A few other bits and bobs of Wimbledon news or kind of non-matches happening this week news Lorenzo Mazzetti has confirmed that he is out of Wimbledon with the injury he sustained in Rome that also kept him out of Roland Garros.

21:54He says the recovery is going well, but he hasn't yet started a full athletic training program. I can't stop thinking about the fact that he went and he carried on in that match in Rome. Like maybe that doesn't have anything to do with the severity of this injury or maybe we'll never know, but it definitely didn't help, did it? And like the look in his eye in that post-match interview afterwards when he basically told Richard Connolly, I'm completely fucked here for my next match. Yeah, it's he's a real loss for this. Well, generally, but he's a loss for the grass court season, as is Carlos Alcaraz.

22:41Obviously, there are some slightly more positive signs coming out of planet Alcaraz. The size of the wrist support he's been wearing has been slowly reducing week on week. And he's down now to just a sort of wristband type thing. And there are reports that he's going for a scan next week. And we've seen more footage on Instagram of him playing tennis left-handed in a backwards baseball cap, David. He couldn't be further from the buzz cut look that you like. He's got, I don't know what it is. He looks like his dad. He's going to emerge from this injury layoff, Catherine, with an unreal single-handed, left-handed backhand and forehand, reinvent himself as a left-hander.

23:34Well, as established, I'm here for the drama and the occasion and I would very much enjoy that. You can tell how desperate we are for our crafts. We're just scrolling his Insta dump for crumbs of comfort and good news. Us and all tennis fans, Matt. We need it. We need it. Yeah. Did we all see Yannick Sinner at Mondo Duplantis' wedding looking absolutely trashed? That was fun. Yes, being helped out by Mondo and Sexy Mondo's dad, I think. yes I saw that was released and then it was deleted and then all the official nice like Vogue pictures of the wedding were released I think that one of Sinner got leaked a bit didn't it it was good energy I only saw the Vogue ones it's quite a flex isn't it to not play we'll find you it's quite a flex isn't it to not play a warm up event While everyone else is doing that, you're getting trashed at a celebrity wedding.

24:47Good for him. Caspar Roods got married. Again? He was already married. Was he? Yeah. He's just finding new reasons to not pay attention to tennis around the grass court season. He's going to get married at this time every year. New ceremony. But yeah, I think they'd had a small ceremony and this was like the big one. Any other wedding news? Well, that was like the wedding I went to in Chicago, actually. Oh, yeah, they were already married to. And like Dua Lipa and Callum Turner. That's what all the cool kids are doing. Yeah. Right. David's looking increasingly confused. That's it for part one.

25:37We'll be back in part two. talk about tennis, David. Don't worry. Welcome back to part two of today's tennis podcast. Time to talk about tennis. Let's start in Berlin and the WTA 500 tournament happening there, which has a fantastic field. It is, I mean, Queen's gets a really good field. I'd say that's in second position in the kind of women's Wimbledon premium list of warm-up events, but Berlin is just always box office. And it's a fantastic quarterfinal line-up. They've got, it's going to be Irina Sabalenka against Nikola Barton-Kova. She seems to be happening again after her breakthrough in Australia and then kind of struggling to back that up a bit right after I put her in my fantasy team.

26:31But now she seems to be happening. She's beaten Aliza Mertens and Deanna Schneider this week. So an interesting matchup with Sabalenka for her. Jessica Bagula against Madison Keyes in the second quarterfinal. Keyes has beaten Karolina Mukova today. We've got Linda Nozkova against Paola Bedossa, who beat Coco Gough to get there and was incredibly emotional after that win. And we've got Alina Svitolina against Alexandra Ayala. who beat Elena Rabakina today, 7-5, 6-4. I feel like that's where we should start. I think you both watched some or all of this. I missed all of it and was really shook by this result because I watched Ayala play.

27:23I watched her play last week and lose first round and she looked so all at sea on the grass. I just watched her and thought, oh, this doesn't make sense at all. Maybe she'll learn, but this is just not a grass court player at all. And here she is today beating a Wimbledon champion. Tell me what happened. Well, I only saw highlights, so I'll let Matt fill in some of the gaps. but I did see that she was heavily behind in the first set and then she won six of the last seven games of the first set to win it. And she was just middling the serve of Rabakina just time after time. She's returning this thing with the most unnerving timing and accuracy and just putting Rabakina on the back foot because of her hand-eye coordination, it seemed to me.

28:25She also has that ability to get down incredibly low and just absorb. And she just plays the sport with such verve and fun. And I say fun once she got to grips with it. I mean, it wasn't much fun at the start. But Matt, I think she really shocked Rebecca with her return. Yeah, it was the return that stood out to me as well. She said afterwards to Andrea Petkovic in the encore interview that her approach on the return and generally is to give herself grace while also being brave. Which I thought was such a great line. Kind of, I'm going to miss some, but I've got to go for it. And I think what stood out to me was that often Ayala will look a little bit underpowered.

29:19But actually, I think on the grass, when she was taking the ball early like that, she was actually being helped by the surface there and rushing Rabatkin so much. It was incredible. And the other thing is that she protected her own serve really well. You know, like that is obviously her weakest shot. But she won close to 60 % of points behind her second serve, whereas Rabatkin was down at 37%. you know Ayala was destructive on the return and Rabatkinah wasn't able to be destructive herself and Ayala kept her first serve percentage high and once she got a foothold in it as David said once she weathered that early storm from Rabatkinah she was brilliant and there were also little moments where it could have gone for her in the second set she was up 3-1 she had triple break point felt like a massive moment if she could win that game she was probably just going to win the match but Rabatkinah held from Love 40 down and I thought maybe that might shift the momentum, but it didn't.

30:19And even when she was serving out the match, she was 15-30 down and it could have got away from her then and she held firm. So I was loving this win. I do think the results she had last week using Jovic was perhaps explained by the fact that she got on the grass early. She played the 1-2-5 in Birmingham. like right at the end of the French Open and won that tournament and had a load of matches under her belt there. So probably then gets to Queen's and, you know, is probably a bit tired, I suppose. And maybe not quite at her best. Maybe I had a false impression. Yes, I suppose that might explain that performance.

31:03But I must say, as much as this was brilliant from Ayala, it was another performance from Rabatkinner that leaves you a bit puzzled when you're watching it. She's in such control of this match and then suddenly gets put under a little bit of pressure and the unforced errors just start piling up and she's not hitting her forehand well at all at the moment. I mean, I didn't see her match against Bolta at Queen's, but when I think about the loss she took at the French Open to Stereo Dupseva, this one to Eala, These are players that really, I think, Rabatkin should be beating and was beating for a really consistent period of time, but just seems to be in a little slump at the moment.

31:49And her form is ragged again. You know, like she was so secure at the start of the season and the end of last season. Now it's back to much more in and out. And you don't quite know what's coming off the racket at any given moment. It could be a blistering winner, or it could be a quite dramatic, poor, unforced error. And she just seems to have lost that balance on court. And yeah, I would say that's a bit of a concern for her. She's made a real target at this grass court season, hasn't she? She's playing all three weeks in the lead up to Wimbledon. I imagine she's got one eye on trying to get to world number one as well, potentially as well.

32:27And yeah, it's just, it's not quite, well, it's not happened for her at all in these first two events. So that's surprising to me because I kind of had Rebecca Knur on grass really pinned as kind of my favourite, I think, going into Wimbledon. And as David said on the pod the other day, like slams are different and I'm sure she's trying to peek at that event and she may well be better there. But there's just a chunk of form now across a couple of surfaces in a few weeks that is a little bit concerning, I think, for Rebecca Knur. Nothing that she can't get back, but I don't know. She's just not the sure thing that she was a few months ago.

33:08The Bedossa win over Gough that I mentioned earlier, I got very emotional seeing her on-court interview after this win. I hadn't quite clocked that it was in Berlin. I mean, she gets injured everywhere, doesn't she? She manages this chronic back injury. She's having injections several times a year just to be able to be a professional tennis player of any kind. But it was in Berlin last year that she got her latest sort of bad injury. And yeah, for her to have this, look, I know Gough on grass, it's not a match made in heaven. But Paola Badosa hadn't won a match since Charleston prior to this. She'd gone all of that clay court season without winning a professional tennis match.

34:00And she said in her interview afterwards, I finally saw myself on the court again. And then she goes into the post-match press conference and just absolutely puts Stefanos Tsitsipas in the... The boyfriend bin. In the boyfriend bin. Did you see those quotes, David? Ben Rothenberg reported them, didn't he? They were quite something. She said... Punchy. So punchy. She said, oh, the headline's going to be... Badosa says Sitsapas is a shitbag or something. And Ben sort of tries to follow up, tries to reassure her, like, no, no, no, don't worry, I'm not doing that gotcha journalism. And she sort of intercepts and goes, no, no, that would be accurate.

34:59he deserves it is what she said he deserves it I love it and we had Sabalenka weighing in and saying that yeah I sent her a voice message about 10 seconds after the breakup saying you're free well done so yeah like I she has survived Stefanos Tsitsipas And she is trying to survive this physical situation that basically makes it close to impossible for her to be a professional tennis player. She's just trying to make it work. And I think that's pretty incredible, really. Yeah. And she found a really good level in this match in those last couple of sets. I mean, we could be talking here about a straight sets Goff win.

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35:56I don't think much would have had to have changed. She was brilliant in that first set, Goff, like so good. And she had break point at the start of the second set. And I was, you know, I actually switched match. I started watching Haller. I thought, OK, Goff's got this under control. And then suddenly it turned and I came back to the match. And Badossa was a completely different player. You know, the one that has caused Goff big problems in the past in that matchup, you know, with her big, powerful ground strokes off both wings. And she looked brilliant, really. And, yeah, I think for Goff, that's four grass court losses in a row now.

36:33The end of 2024, two last year, one this year. It's definitely her weakest surface. But I don't know. I did also think there were some encouraging signs for her, the way she was going after her serve. She was in double-digit aces, Goff, in this match, and she was trying to use it as a bit more of a weapon again. Okay, it led to some double faults as well, that those were up, I think there were seven in the match. But still, the ratio was positive there, and the intent was good, I thought. And as I said, the first set, she was excellent, but did lose her way, and Bedosa really took over. So I guess I'm trying not to sort of just panic from a Kovia-Goth perspective and think, oh, we've lost on grass to Bedossa, who hasn't won a match in ages.

37:19I think, look, it wasn't great, but there were some OK signs in there as well. And it's just like the problem is for her on grass, I think she's so much more susceptible to tough draws. As we saw last year, she gets a strength and just gets hit off the court at Wimbledon. And I think those danger matches are much more in abundance for her on grass. So, yeah, I don't have high hopes going into Wimbledon. David, it's a good job we've got Matt back because I think it's time to have a dormant volcano discussion about Madison Keys. Yeah. And yet I feel like she is just a permanently dormant volcano and has been for her whole career.

38:07An extinct volcano. That's just, I mean. Other than the odd eruption. Right. Well, that is, you've just described a dormant volcano, David. No, but I tend to feel like we sort of call them one on the understanding that they're about to erupt. Like Krachykova is in dormant volcano mood, et cetera. I don't think that Madison Keyes is almost like the OG of this description I don't know I mean I didn't come up with it Matt but that's my feeling because once she erupts she's the most devastating force in the game but she's been like that since she was 18 she always has been yeah and therefore no debate required ok let's have some adjudication on this Matt yeah do you know i i think we're in the i think we're saying the same thing like she is a dormant volcano the question is is she rumbling is she about to erupt yes is that the question or is is there another is the question like like at some point she will just be extinct right when she retires yeah well no i mean no i'm not willing to declare her extinct Well, David, you thought she might have been extinct this year.

39:37Well, I definitely feel as though... In terms of eruptions. Yeah, I said at the end of last year that I thought she was going to have a big dip and that she wouldn't make the WTO finals or be in the top 10. And I still think that. And I think in terms of a dormant volcano capable of, you know, Australian open type eruptions, that is its own form of extinction.

40:06Extinction sounds like a very dramatic word, but I'm confined to the geography lingo of volcanoes, you understand. So I guess that's the question, right? Like, are there still eruptions in the bag for Madison Keys? Because she definitely has been dormant. I suppose then we come to the question of what counts as an eruption well is it for someone you know is it for someone who set the bar in terms of like she's shown she's capable of winning a major is that an eruption I think I think a semi-final it needs to be a semi-final I think that's you tell me definitely possible and it's definitely possible because well again in her uh on court interview afterwards she was she was talking about her relationship with grass and she was like well I've always loved it it just hasn't always loved me but I've always felt good on grass and comfortable on grass and I always expect to play well on grass I just I just sometimes don't I just think she's dangerous I think she's really underperformed at Wimbledon over the years.

41:18I mean, there was the, in recent years, there was the Paolini match, wasn't there, where she got injured. And I really, you know, that was after, that was after the shift had happened, I think, for Keys. The mental shift, she'd just started being coached by Fratangelo, hadn't she? And yeah, I think I feel for her on that one. But prior to that, I definitely think she makes sense as a grass quarter to me yeah i commentated on her when she was 19 winning eastbourne and beating angelique kerber in the final and i thought wow anything it's all on the table immediately for her um i remember martin and avasalo was commentating with me for that and she was just totally won over by her on grass as well in particular.

42:12And so it's been a surprise really to me that she hasn't had more results on it. And yeah, it's still, look, she's somebody I think it is in there for her to perform again like she did at the Australian Open. I still wouldn't, I wouldn't have the confidence to like pick that at all. But I didn't pick it for the Australian Open because it's once in a blue moon, isn't it? Yeah. I was very impressed with the finish today against Mukova. She served for the match and got broken. And then, you know, you think Madison Keyes, you're mostly thinking huge ball striking, aren't you? But it was actually the touch that got her over the line here.

42:59She came up with a brilliant like forehand squash shot kind of thing to break serve. And then the match point was a lovely deft, deft little shot cross court off the backhand. And, you know, doing that against Mukova was really quite the flex, I thought. Yeah, she... I think she's rumbling. Rumbling's a good addition to the match. And by the way, I totally agree on Krejcikova. I think we might be... I think the whole drawer might end up sleeping on Kraychikova. If she's fit and she's just stringing winds together, my God, she could do damage. I have climbed a volcano that was rumbling. I could hear it rumbling while I was there.

43:51Yeah, tell us more. In La Réunion, Piton de la Fournaise. yeah it was like it was hissing like a dragon was it hot and it actually erupted like the year like it was an it was a maybe it was just an active volcano i think it erupted the year after i was there anyway they certainly closed it they closed it while we were there because there was lava flow So, yeah. They're able to predict these things more accurately than Keyes' eruptions. Yeah. I think, generally. Wow. Sabalenka, Bartonkova, top of the draw. Is this, I mean, this is a stacked quarterfinal lineup. Is this Sabalenka's to lose? Like, how confident do you feel in, like, Sabalenka being the favourite from here, based on what you've seen so far?

44:56I think Barton Kovar's tricky. Well, she's a player I'm excited about because of her style. We've had a number of these this year. That's what I've really loved about 2026 is her and Olenakova and now Valinska, you know, just more recently. Just players who just come out with a really daring brand of tennis that is just not straight out of the machine of how you play tennis anymore, you know. But I still expect Sabalenka to win, absolutely, you know. But I do find Sabalenka really interesting on grass and I find her really interesting coming off the back of the French Open. You know, she's got something to prove again.

45:48And I feel like Wimbledon is huge for her after that shock defeat, the manner of that defeat. And I think I do feel like with her on grass, she needs a bit of runway. You know, a good week in Berlin would be a big deal for her. You know, winning this event would be big going into Wimbledon just to settle everything down and give her those foundations. Yeah, I think she'll win it. what do you think I mean she has to be the favourite from here right I just yeah I think she's the favourite I don't feel that confident don't know Matt what do you think yeah same really I think at this stage I'd take the field I think there's enough good names in there.

46:49Pagula, she always talks about liking German grass, doesn't she? She's won Berlin before, she's won Bad Homburg and then she gets over to Britain and hasn't quite been able to do it at Wimbledon. Svitilinas look very convincing in the other half of the draw. Look, Sam Belenka is definitely the favourite. She talked about working with a psychologist and she's seeing a psychologist after that French Open performance and I think she's doing a lot of searching and trying to figure that out but yeah I agree with I agree with David really like Sabalenka is fascinating coming into Wimbledon if we go through another season where she hasn't won either of the non-hardcourt slams you know it just it sort of feels like how much is she truly like progressing and I know she is in that she's you know been so good on the tour and everything but majors is the most important currency and I think she's desperate to get one of these non-hard court slams and for her not to have even reached the Wimbledon final feels like an underperformance.

47:53I know there's been injury, I know there was a year she couldn't play there are circumstances there but I think it's massive for Sabalenka this Wimbledon Incidentally, Marketa von Drosheva who is the defending champion in Berlin, that was an eruption when she popped out of nowhere and won Berlin last year. She's not defending her title. She is eligible to play at the moment, but she's choosing not to. She's expecting, or we are all expecting a decision in her anti-doping case to come next week ahead of Wimbledon. The case centres on her refusing entry to a doping control officer in December of last year.

48:36She claims that protocol wasn't wasn't followed. So that is something we are expecting news of in the coming week. If she doesn't receive a ban, she would in theory be eligible to play Wimbledon. She is currently, she's on the entry list and eligible to play. But as I say, she hasn't been playing recently and we haven't heard from her. So we will keep you posted on the Marquette of Androshova situation next week. Piton de la Fournay, by the way, is the world's most active volcano. And I did know that. I have climbed the world's most active volcano while it was rumbling. Is that one Krashikova?

49:23No, I think Sabalenka is the world number one is the world's most active volcano, right? If you're just erupting all the time, that's just winning stuff. it's the dormancy that's the yeah you're getting carried away with the volcano of it David yeah yeah I like it though let's see let's continue to develop the volcano genre of analogy just before we move on to the men and part three we got the WTA 250 in Nottingham this week the quarterfinal lineup up there is Karolina Pliskova against Talia Gibson. What's her volcano status? Well, you tell me, Matt.

50:11She's not extinct, is she? In my mind, she was extinct, but she's not. She's like top 30 in the race this year. And winning matches galore and loves the grass. She's someone's nightmare in the Wimbledon draw, isn't she? Yeah. She's not rumbling. I think she's... She's hissing. I think she's dormant. Hissing sounds really scary. I remember it was scary. I remember it sounding like a dragon. I'll ask you again, was it hot underfoot? Yeah, when you got near the top it was, yeah. You could feel the heat. God. You could see the recent lava flows. I'm not going up one.

51:01So Pliskova against Gibson to take on the winner of Marie Buzkova and Tatiana Maria. Is she a grass court? No, no. I was going to say a grass volcano, but no. Jessica Boutesman. That's just Edmund Hill. That's just Edmund Hill, isn't it?

51:29Jessica Bothas-Monero against Emma Navarro and Anne Lee against Victoria Goljubic Emma Raducanu did end up withdrawing incidentally David and I were speculating about whether she would and I think we both thought that that would most likely be the most sensible thing and she did end up doing that who are you both picking for the title from here in Nottingham? I think I might be going Pliskova, you know.

51:59See you on Sunday for a dormant volcano discussion about Karolina Pliskova. How do you think she'd get on against Tatiana Maria? Oh, I'd quite like to see it. A lot of bending down low, which is not Pliskova's favourite thing to do, is it? I'm going for Maria. I always think of her as the most upright tennis player I've ever seen. Yeah. That's a good point. That is a nightmare if Tatiana Maria can get there. Who are you going for, Matt? David's going Maria. Yeah, I think I might go Maria, you know. I think she's got a little bit of a, you know, I think she feels like she's got a bit of a chip on her shoulder, a bit of a point to prove after the Queen's snub.

52:45Yeah. It does make for dangerous players, doesn't it? I think Navarro in the final as well. Okay. Yeah, fun. Great. Okay, that's it for part two. Join us in part three, where we will head to Queen's and Halle to talk about the men. Welcome back to part three of today's tennis podcast. Let's start in London at Queen's and the ATP 500 event there. The quarterfinals are as follows. Alex Dominoor, the top seed, will take on Brandon Nakashima. Arthur Ferry, the British player, will take on Francisco Sarundolo. Alejandro Davidovic Fikina will face Tommy Paul. And Rinki Hijikata will face either Hamad Majedovic or Ugo Umber.

53:34What have we seen, David? What's taking your fancy this week at Queen's? Or who has taken your fancy? Other than Kurentan Moutet, who I'm dying to talk about, but is out of the tournament. So we should probably start. We'll keep this part short so we can get on to that. But Dimonor, I've been pleased the way he has just underlined his top seeding so far. I mean, he played Denis Shapovalov in the most recent round and he took care of him pretty handily. I mean, Shapovalov scraped through a tie break against Jack Pennington-Jones in the previous round in the third set and hit some spectacular shots.

54:17But it did strike me how these are two players that kind of came up together, Shapovalov and Dimonor. And Dimonor just looks so much more accomplished as a player. You know what he is. He is the packaged top 10 player that Denis Shapovalov has never been. And Shapovalov plays amazingly spectacular shots, but he's been doing that for 10 years. And yes, he got to Wimbledon semi-final, but I just feel as though Dimonor is kind of what he could have been or what he was supposed to be. I know they're very different, but just in terms of when they came through together. Arthur Ferry, I needed an Arthur F.

55:02So, you know, it's nice to be able to just transfer my attentions over. And he's a bit French. Yeah, and I saw him play against... Stylish player, isn't he? at Wimbledon. He's not a big guy. He's sort of physically quite short, but he packs a punch. I mean, he hits a really sweet ball from the baseline. You know, he's got real weight of shots. And I think, you know, he's the best of this group of, at the moment at least, British wildcards. He's getting a wildcard into Wimbledon. He's the one that I think is absolutely bang on deserves it. You know, he's sort of, he's come into this draw and he won an all-British match against Toby Samuel in the first round really, really easily.

55:49But then he backed it up. You know, he won the second round as well. So I feel like that's really important. Sarundolo absolutely destroyed Jenson Brooksby. He was like 6-2-2-up at one stage. Ended up being 6-4 in the second set. And he's now, I think, coached by Nicholas Massoud, is Sarundolo. that's an interesting combination. But yeah, I still think the most likely scenario here is that you get Demenor and Paul in the final. Tommy Paul, who's playing Alejandro Davidovic Fikina, who plays some nice grass court tennis. But they are the standout players, really, I think. Paul Davidovic Fikina has been a bizarre matchup.

56:39their last five sets have all been 6-1 to Tommy Paul and seven of the last eight sets that Paul has won against Davidovich for Kina have been 6-1 or 6-love because in my head that match is great do you know what I mean? like two great athletes, shot makers moving each other side to side they both like grass yeah, I mean so their recent matches have been in Australia and actually Davidovic Fikino ended up retiring this year against Paul after those first two sets but yeah I was reminded today watching Paul against Boric van der Zanskiel just how much I like watching him on the grass so he's so happy coming forward Paul and he's on a bit of a winning streak at Queen's isn't he because he didn't defend his title last year he was injured so he's actually I think won seven matches in a row at Queen's now and yeah I would love or Paul final.

57:37I think that would be, to be honest, as good as Queen's can really get, I think, with the feel it's got. Did we all see Bertic's tweener lob? Yeah, that was a wow moment. He's random, isn't he, Bertic? He's so random. You love him. Yeah, because he's so not the tweener lob guy, but he is you know like when Shapovalov did his diving volley and that went all viral like yeah that's what Shapovalov exists for you know that's the point of him I mean no one and you know he gave it you know Bertic barely even noticed that he had hit the shot of the week

58:33look bemused by everyone's excitement about it uh let's talk about corentan mute uh and let's apologize to your mum in advance david there's really no getting around uh talking about corentan mute without saying the word fuck because he's given us no choice he said fuck in an interview in his on-court interview uh after his first round win over giovanni and peshi perry car Oh, great win, by the way. And then he was urged not to say fuck because that's a problem on the BBC or presumably lots of broadcast networks in the middle of the day by the interviewer Jenny Drummond, who I thought handled it very well.

59:20And then he proceeded to say fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck many times. people are clutching all the pearls about this. I mean, I'm not an unbiased judge of this because I love swearing and I really enjoyed it. And I just think everyone needs to get a life. But, you know, I understand people with kids watching or whatever, but it was funny I mean I'm sorry it was funny it was well timed it was I I mean I did feel a bit for Jenny Drummond in the moment because you know not everybody's going to handle that one well and she I agree with you I think she really did and she just got the tone right and slightly gently ticked him off in the in a slightly amused way um and then he did it again but his timing was so good I thought and the manner he did it just did not care and he was having a laugh he was having a laugh and I mean look I don't want a load of copycats because no the joke's been done now it wouldn't be funny again and don't you do it again Corintan because you've done it now it was funny the first time it's one of those I don't think he will I think he is quite cool Mute yeah like if it was Shapovalov he would do it again I've definitely seen some people say something almost accidentally funny in the past, get a laugh and then do it again but naming no names but Mute is not one of those and actually I think he was very very funny and all power to him and I did read that there was a possibility that you could get fined for something like that if he gets fined it would be an absolute fucking outrage David sent a video of it Not only to our tennis podcast group The three of us But also to the World Cup sweepstake group That we've got going With both his kids And a number of his nieces and nephews in Which was iconic behaviour Yeah, that's how much David enjoyed it They all enjoyed it can you imagine the um can you imagine the reaction of that of that woman at was it indian wells earlier in the season when andreva left the court swearing and then they and then they zoomed in on that woman who was who like totally lost her mind i was picturing like just like a balcony of people at queens doing that do you know what i mean I'd forgotten about that woman she was iconic have we made a note of her to make sure she comes up in the quiz yes she needs to be coming up in the end of your quiz I think about her a lot Catherine don't worry let's head to who are you picking for queens at this stage let's stick with that I'm going to go Dimonor Matt I think I might go Paul do you remember that match they played was it in the week before the French Open Catherine the one we were just going crazy about yes when we saw the highlights Tommy Paul just I don't know it was like he injected himself with something in the middle of the match with Carlos Alcaraz yeah that is a joke I'm not casting aspersions but it really was like yeah wild Alcaraz was getting really bored and he decided to possess Tommy Paul.

1:03:15Yeah, truly. Okay, now let's head to Haller. And the other ATP 500 tournament happening this week, the quarterfinals there, look thus. Alexander Zverev to take on Raphael Collignon, a rematch of Ben Shelton against Taylor Fritz, which of course was the final just a few days ago in Stuttgart. Then Daniel Altmaier against Daniel Medvedev and the winner of that to take on the winner of Francis Tiafoe against Félix Auger-Aliassime. Tiafoe having beaten Flavio Caboli in his opening match. I'm not sure there's been any result less surprising to me all year than Flavio Caboli losing his first match after the French Open final.

1:03:59Yeah. I mean, it's a tough draw, isn't it? Tiafoe's a good player and very good on grass, but it could probably have been... What player am I going to throw under the bus here? It could probably have been Henry Wendell Ken and he'd have lost it. Is that his name, Henry? He was on a run. Yeah, I mean, yes, it's like everybody's doing what they're supposed to do. Alexander Zverev just comes out and just methodically goes and beats a couple of people, you know after winning the friendship Cavali just doesn't really turn up so yep yeah everyone's being on brand including probably be brilliant next week well hope so for the sake of my fantasy team uh Shelton Fritz fascinated yeah he could he could do with revenge Fritz couldn't he Fritz really needs a win over Shelton He's lost his last three against him.

1:05:04And the only one he won was in 2023. And obviously this is the year where he's had the time off with the knee problem and he's rested it up. And I think it's, look, I mean, it's okay to lose to Ben Shelton. He's a bloody dangerous and good player. But Fritz is not going to take kindly to this. You know, like he's got a lot of professional pride. He will want to be getting him back. It's not just about getting wins. he'll want to get a win against him I think and prove to himself that he's back yes he's bloody stubborn Fritz isn't he yes I'm going to say he will how about that I think he might too three results Shelton's way in the last 12 months against him but no I'm going to go Fritz what do you two think so you agree Catherine what do you think I think the stubbornness of Fritz I think he's like exactly as you've described I think he knows, like, I need this one.

1:06:02And it's not like he hasn't been getting close in their matches. It doesn't seem like a total match-up problem to me. No, it's big points. He's been just losing the odd break of serve at the wrong time. Yeah. And then it would likely be Fritz Zverev in the semis if Zverev overcomes Collignon, which is a fascinating match-up because Fritz has his number or has had his number. Whereas Zverev has Shelton's number. It's an interesting little triangle there. Shelton always beats Fritz. Fritz always beats Zverev and Zverev always beats Shelton. Shelton could do with having a pop at Zverev in this sort of circumstances where Zverev might not be totally head in the game, although he's at the quarterfinal.

1:06:55fascinating yeah yeah that is really interesting um and medvedev medvedev could do with a could do with a well it's already a deep run but an even deeper run yeah shelton today i watched him against uh ethan quinn and he really lost his way in in the match he lost the second set went down a break at the start of the third but then he just like went for everything just went for broke on like every shot and there were quite a lot of errors in there but there was so many spectacular winners and it kind of reminded me that he's capable of that I think he's done a great job Shelton of really like developing some of the edges of his game in that now he can go toe-to-toe from the baseline with a lot of players he can rally he can go into a sort of secure mode but i think to to peak to truly like reach the absolute peak of the sport and take down the big names i think he needs to play more like he played in those final stages which was just going for it playing on his terms letting the arm fly serving big ripping winners like that's the brand of tennis i think is going to be most dangerous against the very best players in the world it's the most high risk and it might lead i think it's been probably the right thing for him not to play that way all the time and build his ranking but i think it was it was good that he's got that in him it's just it's one thing doing it against ethan quinn and it's another trying to do it against a sinner or you know the other top players um but i do agree that fritz is going to be hungry for this and might might take this one and get some revenge there So who you got winning the tournament then?

1:08:45It's tough, isn't it? Because, ooh. I don't trust Medvedev, but I just think the fact he's in the other half might help him a little bit. Is he a dormant volcano? Is he rumbling? I mean, I don't think we have the vocabulary for what Medvedev's been doing this year.

1:09:16David, who have you got winning Haller from here? This is tough, I think, isn't it? Yeah. Who do you think is coming through that bottom half of the draw into the final? Altmaier, Medvedev, Tiafri, Felix. I think we're going to get a Medvedev-Fritz final and Fritz is going to win it all and really put himself back on the map. that'd be very interesting yeah what do Fritz Medvedev matches look like attritional yeah hard work for everyone involved yeah it just sort of struck me today that like we are going into another slam without Alcaraz and I know that's just struck you I know we've been acutely aware of that for a while But like we were just like we were just talking about this incredible opportunity that the French Open was.

1:10:14And it's it's just not impossible that. Wimbledon ends up being a big opportunity, certainly on a half of the draw. I mean, there's a big heat wave in the works. Right. And just like Fritz, Fritz would be primed. Yeah. To try and take advantage of that. If we're talking about like the way Zverev won the French Open was taking advantage of that space that opened up. Fritz has been that guy for a while as well. You know, he's had the edge over Zverev in the matchup. But he's just been injured for a while and not been able to play his best. And I think if he can get himself back in the conversation with a title in Halle and feel good going into Wimbledon and then get on the right side of the draw, you know like he could go really far so i think it's i think it's massive actually what happens in hallow over the over the next few days for a lot because i would i would also put medvedev in that conversation and zverev still and shelton even like a felix on grass i think is a different different prospect to what he is on clay you know um even tiafo okay you've just named everybody apart from Daniel Altmaier.

1:11:34Talking of Altmaier, he's playing doubles with Fonseca and they're taking on Kaboli and Shelton in the semis. Yes, Kaboli and Shelton have been a real vibe. That has been fun. And it doesn't surprise me that they get on. Fonseca's not a grass quarter, is he, David? Not yet, anyway. The manner I realised he was playing the other day, he was four love down against Yannick Hanfman. I've been about 10 minutes. Yeah, it's a work in progress. It's a tough surface. OK, that is it. We will be back on Monday, though, to do an autopsy on all of those predictions that I've just demanded from us all. I am very keen to get on to the topic of our mascot for today's show.

1:12:25Imagine my joy when I checked in on the agenda earlier on today to discover that today's mascot is Maggie, the returning Maggie, a Bernese mountain dog. Maggie is owned by Elizabeth Desmond. She's a nine-year-old Bernese mountain dog. Her interests are going for coffee, i.e. getting treats and lots of rubs in cafes, sleeping, going to the beach. and her hidden talent is jumping fences with Elizabeth's Wellington boot in her mouth. Which is, I mean, that sounds like the sort of thing that my Instagram algorithm serves me on a daily basis. Would you like to see this Bernese mountain dog jumping a fence with a welly in her mouth?

1:13:07Yes, I would. Thank you very much. Elizabeth says she's actually not a tennis fan as my exclamations wake her. And that is also a dog thing that I can very much relate to. She is wonderful, Maggie. What a regal, beautiful, cuddlable dog I'm looking at right now. So Maggie, thank you for being our mascot for today's show. We have our mascots. I have Bodhi relying on Nicola Bartonkova for points this week. it's not the best place to be but here we are David has Maisie riding high at the top of the table still I'm more invested in the World Cup sweepstake now it turns out that it turns out that competitions that are entirely luck based and require no actual selections on my part they're what I'm good at no skill involved yeah you've got England haven't you Catherine I've got all my teams have got points in their opening games yeah I've got England I feel pretty good about having England after last night not to mention Cap Verde sorry to bring that up Spanish Matt but that's an unexpected point get my Spanish passport and I can't even beat Cap Verde and everyone's thrilled about it.

1:14:42And I'm like, I'm literally supporting Spain now.

1:14:49Hello to Roger, Matt's mascot. Hello to our top folks and executive producers, Greg, Chris and Jeff. Matt's back, so so are shout outs. Let's have them, Matt. We have Laura from Athens, Georgia in the US. Hello, Laura. Laura? I didn't know there was an Athens, Georgia. Laura says, like, Robson and Catherine's favourite, Siegmund. I can't believe how much a part of my, like, podcast identity Laura Siegmund has ended up becoming. I know I only have myself to blame. I wonder how many seasons she's got left. She's 38 now. Oh, she's going to hang around, David.

1:15:35She'll hang around. be asking for wild cards and be annoyed when she doesn't get them I mean at the very least I think she'll kick around in doubles for forever

1:15:51Laura thank you for making me think about Laura Siegmund just always living rent free in my mind we also have Emily Price from North East Victoria Australia Hey, Emily, hi. North East Victoria, okay. That's very vague. We know a lot of places in Victoria because of all the trophies that were named after places in Victoria during COVID. Gippsland? Gippsland. It's always Gippsland. We know others, but it's always Gippsland. The only one I remember is Catherine saying in that accent. The Yarra River Valley classic or something? Was there a Great Ocean Road classic? The Murray something? The Murray River.

1:16:43It was Murray River, yeah.

1:16:50Yeah, I think we might be out. Yeah, then it was just like Adelaide 2. And Melbourne 2. There was a Melbourne 1 and 2 as well, wasn't there? oh covid uh emily says last year my dream came true and i went to wimbledon with my high school bff and tennis bestie nat it was to celebrate our 50th birthdays after many years of wishing for it talking about it and then actually planning and saving for it when we walked through the gates It felt truly magical. It simply is the best. That is wonderful, Emily. I can't wait to go now. I'm so glad you did that. That's really special. Thank you. Yeah, that'll be us next week.

1:17:43It will. I'm going tomorrow, in fact. Yeah, I'm getting my shark ninja chill pill fired up. Have you seen the weather forecast? Yeah, it's giving Paris all over again. Me and Yannick Sin are having the same feelings of panic about the weather forecast. Oh, no. Sin is going to be all hot and bothered again. But also me, David. I'm going to be hot and bothered again. Yeah, but you can go inside. You can't. Matt, what are you going to do in the Wimbledon Library? I am going to research or finish researching 1996 Wimbledon, put the finishing touches on that relived show that we have coming up after your incredible interviews that you've been doing.

1:18:38Oh, David on fire. I have spoken this week at length to Malavere Washington and to Richard Krychek, the men's singles finalists of 1996. And I loved every minute of talking to them. So I think a lot of you are going to enjoy those. Yeah, I'm really excited about that show. We've decided David's interviews are so good. We don't need to track down the streaker. That's how good they are. Also, we've drawn a total bunk.

1:19:18Yeah. Okay. Brilliant. One more shout out. One more for Matt Schwartz from Scotch Plains, New Jersey. Oh. Right, Matt? Well, we love a Matt. I'm wearing my Springsteen T-shirt. And New Jersey is where England are going to win the World Cup for me. Absolutely. And Schwartz, like the surname of Pete Sampras and Marcelo Rios' former agent, Jeff Schwartz. That's incredible, David. Wow. Did you know him? Is he a nice guy? Yes and no. I did know him and he wasn't a nice guy.

1:20:07he was terrifying like most agents

1:20:14absolutely incredible uh mark emily and laura thank you ever so much for being so i really should

1:20:26and Matt by the way says I hope to meet you all in Flushing this year as I attend the US Open for the 30th consecutive year wow that's good going that is unreal Matt's been going since he turned 8 I don't want to fact check Matt but what about Covid

1:20:52Sorry to keep bringing up COVID Well 30th consecutive He was allowed to go to Yeah okay I'm not invalidating the streak Sounds like you are Don't want to fact check it But I'm going to fact check it Okay I've got your name wrong He's thrilled with his streak And you've come along called him Mark and shat all over his wonderful fact.

1:21:26Mark. Matt. Matt.

1:21:33I'm so sorry. I love all Matt's and that is a wonderful streak and you shouldn't listen to anything my nonsense 10 o 'clock at night heatwave brain is saying. Matt, Emily and Laura thank you ever so much for being friends of the Tennis Podcast we are part of the Athletic Podcast Network and we'll be back with our next show on Monday thanks for listening we'll speak to you then

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Catherine and David are rejoined by Matt, who’s back from Chicago, to catch up on the week’s results so far and speculate about whether Serena Williams will play more than just doubles at Wimbledon. 

Part one (00:00 - 25:45) - We start with Wimbledon’s wildcard decisions. Is a spot being saved for Serena to play singles? Do we think she will take it? Is that something we would like to see? And why does it feel wrong that Dan Evans has been snubbed? 

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