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0:28All right. Jets, Giants, and Bengals. This is going to be an eight-minute pre-show. No one wants to hear about our NFL takes. Paywall. I'll start another show. I mean, SportsCenter is what it would be called. How fast do you think we'll get a cease and desist if we start a podcast called SportsCenter? I think we'll fly under the radar. You think so? Yeah. I actually want to do it just for that reason, just to call it SportsCenter. And just be like, what do you mean? It's my fucking last name. How dare you? Well, some of the greatest brands have been born out of a cease and desist. that's what i'm saying and also we would we would space it out sports space center yeah there you go i mean i think it's a great show i think we have a lot of opportunity here kevin

1:14three two one kevin my man what's up it has been a minute i know i know we have not recorded our famous podcast. I know. We only missed one week. I know. So many people were upset about it. It felt like two weeks. I don't think anyone was upset. I think breaks are good. So many people. You take a break and then you get people hungry for more. You know that we charted last week on the American Design Podcast charts? That's crazy. Yeah. We didn't even put out a show. I think the people are just clamoring. I know. See, we should take more breaks. Listening to old episodes. You get the people hungry for more, Alex.

1:47We got to start playing with hype. That's true. Not enough hype is happening here. We're too available. We need to start a drop model is what you're saying. Absolutely. You never know when we're going to drop. Yeah. What if we record like 10 podcasts and then we drop them all at once and we're like, here's all the news from the past 10 weeks. And then you listen to like, we're just talking about the submarine explosion right now. No, not a good idea. I don't know. It could work. A news show that's not timely. It could work because like, I don't know. I think by the time you get your takes off about the submarine, they're already late.

2:24They're already not hot. That's true. Everyone's getting their takes off on Twitter. Yeah. That's true. I don't think there's any such thing as a hot take anymore. You bring up a good point. Hot takes. Wow. This is a hot take. Hot takes are dead. Yeah. Somebody's already had the take. Wow. Somebody's already X'd it on X.com. Yeah. That's true. Speaking of, what do you think of Barbie? I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought Ryan Gosling totally stole the show. I thought he was – I thought his performance was spectacular. And Margot Robbie's hot. All the other Barbies are hot, especially Midge. Midge was the hottest.

3:01Oh, man. Wow. This is a very feminist take, Kevin, here. Ken stole the show and all the Barbies were hot. I think you missed the point of this movie. It's an instant classic. No, it was fun. It was fun. It was really fun. We didn't really talk about it on the show, so I'll just say my best review of the movie is it lived up to its impossible hype, which I think a lot of things get hyped up these days, and I think a lot of things fail to live up to the hype, and this did for me. So don't be a hater. Go see it. Yeah. The number one movie in America as of four weeks ago. It was a really fun movie.

3:37It's great. It reminded me why I hate going to movie theaters. Really? Wow. Yeah. Well, the clapping pre-movie. Really? When the title scene came up. Really? People were clapping? When they lowered the lights down, people started clapping. And then when that pink WB logo, the new WB logo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The stretched out one. The stretched one, yeah. Not the new one. The new one. When that came up, people started clapping. I was just like, come on, shut up. Watch the fucking movie. Wow. I like the clapping. Everyone talked all throughout the previews. Ooh. Could not hear a single word. I mean, the previews.

4:11There were some interesting flicks I wanted to see. Julio Torres has a new movie that they were previewing. I didn't get to see that preview. I mean, I could go on YouTube and watch it right now, but I haven't. And then to make it worse, Alex. What happened, Kevin? Somebody's fucking feet were stinking right by me. Okay. And it was clear they had just come from a long day of work, and then they popped their shoes off in the movie theater. It's nasty. Here's the thing. I will defend people that pop their shoes off on airplanes. I know there's a lot of hate for those people. I have been one to do that I don't think sockless but like shoes off on an airplane it's a long fucking trip I will defend those people shoes off in a movie theater jail prison take them out I don't care if you have your shoes off just make sure they don't fucking stink oh this is your shoes off bring an extra pair of socks make it good for everybody else around you because yeah if your dogs are barking it's not a good time now that I mean listen if your dogs are barking don't take your shoes off period wherever you are but I think in a movie theater keep your fucking shoes on like that's not that's not your fucking living room like and I actually like when people get into the movie because that's to be honest for me I'm like when you know I'm seeing an event like Barbie I want people to clap or get excited or laugh because to me that's if they don't do that then I might as well be watching at home where I can take my shoes off Kevin we a lot of things to walk that we watched I have a lot of things here to talk about um john how to with john wilson's back great it's spectacular it's sad that they uh got the um the max axe really it's the last season yeah okay so that's their their de-prioritizing that uh that live action reality tv show guy said nah one person camera crew who's making statements about society no more yeah i guess there's writing that has to happen on that show i guess i mean it's got to be the one of the leaner HBO productions like yeah I watched something about his process and he just sends out camera crews and like has this like massive inventory of footage and basically just writes a script and then puts the footage to the script which is that's what it feels like when you're watching it actually which one did you watch so I actually watched an episode last night or two nights ago and I realized that I didn't even finish season two I kind of got bored and stopped watching, which my apologies to John Wilson.

6:33I love the show. I have the attention span of a goldfish where I can't watch anything other than dumb reality like trash television or documentaries. That's all I can watch, which this is a documentary technically, I think, kind of. It's not even like a show with a real, it's not a drama. There's no actors. And I still can't watch it. So I'm struggling, guys, out here. It's just been spectacular. I really him and Nathan Fielder really are pushing the bar for comedy. I thought the rehearsal was some of the most revolutionary comedy shit I've ever seen. I like saying it's avant garde. Yeah, no, they definitely are pushing ground in terms of like TV reality shows like like and trying new things, which I think is we both respect.

7:16Right. Like there's so many shows that just feel so formulaic and there's so many, you know, sort of like old garbage kind of regurgitated for new audiences, you know, and there's so many just like stale formats. So the fact that both Nathan Fielder and John Wilson are, yeah, they're inventing new formats, inventing new types of shows. Like I do really appreciate that and respect it. I don't know what it is, though. I do find I just lost a little bit of steam with both of them. And I think not to say that they're not great shows. I just I don't know. I've seen like I've seen a couple of them and I'm kind of like, OK, I get this.

7:57And I don't know if each one sometimes they fail to like bring me in a little bit, which is which is tough, which is tough. But I will tell you something I watched last night, which I think is honestly my favorite show of the year. I'm putting it out there. What? telemarketers on HBO. That one looks pretty interesting. And it is a docu-series about the telemarketing industry. The Safdies are involved. Oh, nice. It is honestly one of the best hours of TV I've seen so far this year, for sure. And I think... I don't know if people are talking about it yet. I don't know. I think it came out yesterday.

8:34So this is incredibly fresh. But it's right up your alley. You're going to like, it's so good. It's like dark comedic doc series. Sick. And it's about this like telemarketing company in Jersey where they hire ex-convicts and just like anyone who wants to get a job. Right on. Are they making bank? The people aren't making money. The business, the telemarketing company is making money. They're paying these people$10 an hour. But these are people that really can't get jobs anywhere else because they have criminal records and things like that. And so they just basically let them do whatever the fuck they want as long as they make sales.

9:10And so people are just doing drugs, fucking hookers, like all sorts of things in this like Jersey warehouse. And they're all just doing telemarketing calls. It's a while. And ultimately they start to like videotape it and then unravel the truth around this like scam. Yeah. I got served up a preview for that one. You're going to love it. I'm excited for it. Yeah. You know, if you talk about trash reality TV shows. Yeah, we got more. I got one for you. What do you got? I talked about it last year. called Claim to Fame. It's about celebrity relatives. And the whole point of the game is to not reveal your celebrity relative.

9:40Okay. Jonas'? Yeah, the Jonas brothers. Frankie and Kevin host it, maybe? I don't know. Kevin, right. Joe? I don't fucking know. No, I think it's Kevin, right? Because Kevin is the third. There's Nick and Joe, which are the handsome Jonas' ones. Yeah. And then there's Kevin, right, who's in the band but not handsome. Yeah. And then there's Franklin, who's the younger brother, the famous bonus Jonas. Yeah. And they're like, they're the hosts, I believe. I've not seen the show. One of my favorite parts of the show is like these Nepo babies are faced with the slightest adversity. And then they start crying.

10:14Really? Yeah. I don't know. It's just so stupid. Is it a - Somebody gets voted off in a shocking way and then there's just like tears. This is season two? Season two, yeah. Of Claim to Fame. And so the show is just about nepotism. It's like a let's make fun of Nepo babies kind of? It's not even making fun of. It's like, let's expose them. Let's give them a chance to do, make their own path, I guess. I don't know. Okay. Give them a platform. Yeah. Nick Cannon's relative was just not revealed, but they revealed this clue last week and it was like, um, Nick Cannon's relative. You know how many relatives Nick Cannon is?

10:50I know, but like, here's the thing is like you, they unlock clues and they go into a room and there's like, they're in like bottles and shit. Is this Fox? I think it's ABC. It's right after the bachelor. Okay. It hopped at Bachelor, actually. What? In airing order. They aired it before The Bachelor for a couple weeks this year. Oh, wow. But the clue was like, has over 10 kids, and then star drummer. Wow. Yeah. So it was good. I don't know. This reminds me a little bit of The Masked Singer, right? Where it's a show meant to highlight the skills of D-list celebrities and famous celebrities of the past.

11:27Yeah. And so this is a similar show where they have to reveal Nepo babies. Yes, pretty much. It's not even nepotism. I guess - Nepo relatives. Nepo relatives. Yeah. Because these people aren't famous, right? They're just like - Are they typically average people? They're just like regular people? Yeah, like regular people like Alicia Keys' brother was on there. Neil deGrasse Tyson's son. I don't know, like Dolly Parton's niece. So what do they do? I've never seen an episode. So do they talk to these people and they try to ask them questions? So they have challenges that they have to do that are pretty dumb.

12:04I don't know. One of them was wearing an electronic ab trainer that was painful. Oh, so there's a competition angle of this? Yeah, it's a competition. And then the winner wins 100K, which in the grand scheme of television is pretty fucking low. Also for rich relatives. But I guess I don't know if that means that these people are rich. It's hard to say, but probably. Neil deGrasse Tyson's son, maybe. But if you're Alicia Keys' cousin. Brother. Brother. I mean, does that mean that person is rich? Does Alicia Keys share some of the wealth? Probably. Brother, yeah, I'd guess. Maybe. Maybe. But not definitely.

12:44I mean, he probably is doing shit for her. He's probably technically an employee. Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe. That's not guaranteed. But it's just really funny to see them go through small adversity and break down or cry. Got it. It's like people have never really had to do much. That's the show within the show. It's like seeing people that haven't had a ton of adversity. Yeah, like Tom Hanks' nephew. Or Tom Hanks' niece, sorry. Niece? There's a big clip that was going around when the show premiered. She was the first person to get exposed. And she went off. she was like threw a fit around the house like you know bts style um it was like packing up her bags okay big fit but they can't even get chet hanks like chet hanks is too much of a star so it has to be like chet hanks is yeah niece cousin cheson jesus christ well um i it sounds like an absolute train wreck um but my favorite jonas now franklin jonas um is uh is is i would Shout out, Throgang.

13:49I would watch just to watch Frankie Jonas because I didn't know this, but I'm a fan of Franklin Jonas because he was on Throwing Fits. Speaking of, I was at the Met game on Saturday. They lost 21-3, and I saw someone wearing a Franklin Jonas T-shirt. Wow. Good for them. At least one other fan out there. Shout out to the Mets. Absolutely demolished in a football score, which is honestly impressive to watch 21-3. Kevin, you went to the Scaring the Hoes tour, Danny Brown and JPEG Mafia. I forgot about this. Yes. We have a lot to cover here. Yeah, about a week ago, I went to Danny Brown and JPEG Mafia show.

14:27I don't know. I guess maybe I just hate going to events now. Really? That makes sense. Maybe it's becoming a bitter, I hate crowds type guy. Yeah. I can see that for you. I'm growing up. Yeah, no. Crowds suck. I mean, honestly, when your lines suck, crowds suck. Yeah, fuck it. Like, and especially when you're, like, everything at home is so accessible. Yeah. I mean, the two takeaways was I fucking love Danny Brown. Yeah, of course. He broke away, did some solo work. Good. Amazing. And then, I don't know, like, a lot of the, there was, like, sections of the crowd. We were kind of, like, in the more chill zone, which was, like, internet Zoomers, you know, Zoomers who just exist online for the most part.

15:05Very soft. Not very cool. And on their phone the whole time. like when the camera would pan into like the stage it just everyone like has their phone up it's like come on just like stop it like get out just put your phone down kevin this is your start these are a lot of old man takes you know these are the guy you know the guy in front of us at one point was taking like multiple like he recorded the whole set i swear to god like four five minute videos like it was crazy like what are you doing with those yeah it's a good question i have to be completely fair, watched some concert videos on YouTube where someone records the entire show and I watch it.

15:46I'm like, oh, good. I went to the drink show. You're part of the problem. I went to the drink show. Part of the problem, Alex. It's all a blur. I watched the Madison Square Garden. I didn't get to the final. I watched about half of it. But I was like, oh, this is kind of nice. I wanted to go to the show. I didn't go. But now I have a reasonable video. But I am part of the problem. I think it is weird, though, that people record a show versus enjoying it. But this has been going on for years. Who cares? Before we get into the topics, Kevin, we've got to talk about Johnny Menzel. What do you think?

16:18All-time partier? Definitely an all-time partier. Definitely has to be on the Mount Rushmore of partiers. Yeah. Pretty incredible. I don't know. A lot of people were talking about it was sad that he was drinking at the end. I don't know. Let the guy live. He was in a pressure cooker of this media storm. He had a meteoric rise. He was probably one of the biggest celebrities on earth at that time. Sure. Like 2012, 2013, whenever that big freshman season he had was. Yeah. Which I remember that. That was fucking awesome. Pretty sick. What a ride. Legend, yeah. But I don't know. He flew too close to the sun and he had some substance abuse issues that probably got exacerbated by the stage he was on.

17:05and you know he fizzled out and that shit he was in the middle where he was like you know i was you know he gets cut from the browns and yeah he goes on this massive bender like that was sad but i don't know it seems like he's kind of evened out and he's just like kind of chilling living his life having fun doing what makes him happy which is partying yeah i mean obviously like It's very clear that Johnny Manziel went to a Texas high school and was the star and the partying sort of guy. And in his late teens or 20s, was very comfortable performing at the highest level and also partying at the highest level.

17:48and I think he was to your point like thrust into the center of attention of like all of sports and entertainment and culture and that's a lot of pressure to put on someone and I think it's really tough to perform with that much expectations on people like people are genuinely questioning your ability to perform and I don't know if he was ever going to be good enough to play at the highest highest level who knows and i think there's a lot of college quarterbacks that like dominate and win heismans that don't like it's it's he's not the first guy to be an awesome college player look at tebow look at so many guys like him baker mayfield even like guys that can run in college right and then when they get to the pros like they can't just run down the middle yeah and not get destroyed by linebackers like it's just it's it's not that crazy to me that he would be really really good in college and then not that good in the pros and i like i kind of call bullshit on that like not watching tape stuff like i know he didn't probably work as hard as he probably should have but like he he had to know the playbook he was running fucking like the offense like he had to know the plays maybe he wasn't watching as much tape as he should have of the opponents or whatever but like i just think a lot of that is like it's a it's a convenient excuse to be like i didn't watch tape all i cared about was partying and not like i was awesome in college and like my skills didn't totally translate to the pros it's kind of like i think that's probably more realistic i don't know i'll give it to him okay i'll give him the excuse it is a different beast obviously to play professionally and all the things you have to know and do you know the quarterback documentary like you've been talking about yeah shed a lot of light on that yeah it's hard um it's not easy but like you can learn a playbook and learn an offense without watching film you know i don't know i mean learning offenses like those offenses are complicated like those are hard like you learn those like in uh you learn that in like on an ipad or like on like you're not like watching videos of fair but i feel like they tried to make it seem like he was doing no work to like be a quarterback and it's like i think the bare minimum of learning the place is a lot of work i don't think he was doing the extracurricular like what mahomes does like sits at home and watches fucking defenses and like studies them to you know to expose their weaknesses but like i don't know i just think manzel like i don't know how like i guess i don't know how likable it came across to me i was like like the monte teo documentary or even the uh chris uh logan paul was jake paul How many Pauls are there?

20:27Jake Paul, Chris Paul, and Logan Paul, famously brothers. Yeah, I mean, it's like you kind of – typically these documentaries are all produced by the people or they're involved in and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, here's the story that you need to know about me. Don't hate me. Feel bad for me. It's like every single documentary. And I feel like if that was the point of this one to a certain extent, I was like, I don't know if I'm like Johnny Manziel. What a sympathetic figure. yeah i think it i mean for me it developed or it i conjured up a little bit of sympathy for him just like yeah i don't know dude dude loves to party he does love to party and i think yeah and you want him to apologize for party rocking i mean at what point does it become sad though and i think that's what people saying like in the end scene when he's in his scottsdale house like playing oh when he's in his fucking big ass scottsdale mansion boo-hoo i know he did all right i exactly but i do think that becomes a little less like i'm just party rocking and more of like i have an addiction how old is he 30 like he's probably like early 30s yeah probably early 30s yeah i think he's got like five more years uh unfortunately for him he's 30 years old so i guess you know maybe you know let him let him rock yeah that's what you're saying i mean i don't think he's like going crazy i think he's just like vibing out with his friends like yeah like he's just having a good time he like had a pretty tumultuous um you know a couple years in his life so totally and i think if that that was a takeaway for me i agree which is like the pressure that he was under being cut from the browns and people seeing like oh my god this is the worst day of you know this guy's life and he's like actually it was the best day of my life yeah so i could just like move on sounds kind of cool sometimes you got to cut a man loose yeah i will say also like a lot of people expect right i remember this happened with ricky williams where they're just like oh my god how could he let all that talent go and give up on football and he's like actually football is like the worst job in the world and actually like it made me miserable and hate my life and i don't owe that to you to play to make you happy and to entertain you like just because i have these skills doesn't mean that i have to use them and that's kind of the expectation that's And that's, to be fair, that he's a human being.

22:51He can choose not to play sports, even if he's exceptionally skilled in them. Johnny Manziel, I don't know if that was exactly the case. But it is interesting. I mean, and I think the more these documentaries shine a light on how much pressure and how much money these companies make off of these people, that was also the big thing for me was the new contracts and branding deals. Like if Johnny Manziel was in college today, he would be the fucking like he'd be on every commercial. He'd be making so much money. And it was sad because it was just he was like five years, 10 years to too late. Yeah.

23:24Or too early. So, so many docs, so many things to talk about. Literally, you could talk about documentaries and fucking shit all day. But we have to move on, Kevin, because we have the dumbest story of the year, which is one that we've been we've been covering for months and months. Too long. Way too long. Way too long. And we're going to keep covering. We're going to keep talking about it. Fucking stupid. Yeah, Musk for Zuck, the fight of the century. We're talking about Elon Musk fighting Mark Zuckerberg, which I imagine, what was MMA? Was that generally the agreed upon sort of sport here that they're going to fight?

23:55I guess. Yeah, UFC-ish mixed martial arts. We know that Zuckerberg and Musk have been beefing publicly. Yeah, talking shit on their respective platforms. Talking shit on their respective platforms. I wonder how much of it is just to bring attention to their platforms and they know that they're trying to keep people engaged on threads. Probably 100%. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to lie. I did open threads yesterday for the first time in a long time. To see Zuckerberg. Yeah, to see what he was saying. And I saw, I perused through some profiles. Yeah. A lot of profiles. Last post. There's like two posts they have.

24:32Like a lot of people. Yep. Maybe I'll look through some of yours. Some of my listeners. Yeah. A lot of posts from five weeks ago. Yeah, no. nothing since so i will say threads has fallen off a cliff we've talked about that a little bit i think the only person who gets engagement on threads is zuckerberg yeah i think he like i posted something the other day because i was like oh maybe i should just you know post here and it got nothing like no likes no engagement it's like this platform is is is a ghost town no more it's no more thread heads i had a lot of high expectations or a lot of hope for threads yeah i really wanted it to succeed and i just don't think it's i don't think it's working yeah But now we have to go to each respective platform, which honestly, I'm just on X.com, you know, reading the screenshots of what he's saying.

25:14That's fair. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm doing, too. And we're getting my information from Instagram, which basically the update here is that I thought the fight was dead. And I think I was on record saying that this fight is never going to happen. I just don't think that these two people are willing to sacrifice potentially the big giant L in front of millions of people if they lose this fight or they get their ass kicked. I think their egos are too big, and I don't think that it's actually ever going to really happen. No, definitely not. And I think it was dead for the most part. I think it was just like they'd moved on.

25:50But then it kicked up again because they announced that they had gotten like a secret location in Rome. Yeah. Not a secret location, Alex. Yeah. An epic location. Yeah. So Musk wrote, the fight will be managed by me and Zuck's foundations, not UFC. Livestream will be on this platform and meta. So basically both platforms. Everything in camera frame will be in ancient Rome. So nothing modern at all. I spoke to the PM of Italy, prime minister of Italy and the minister of culture. They have agreed on an epic location. So location. So that's the sort of like that kicked all this back up again. My favorite tweet comes after it, which he says everything done will pay respect to the past and present of Italy, which not to mention all proceeds going to veterans and the pediatric hospitals of Italy.

26:47Yes. so not pandering at all so sure so that was like okay maybe this is gonna happen maybe these two guys like are actually talking behind the scenes and this comes after musk was like oh i think i need to get shoulder shoulder and back surgery yeah maybe this fight won't happen so then that does that happen after before and then because on the bottom of that x thread somebody asks about the uh so basically zuck talks about his the problem with his shoulder and that it's rubbing his shoulder blade musk yeah is is is rubbing against his ribs which is going to require surgery sounds like he needs to get a rib removed so so it's going to take a couple months for musk to get sort of uh you know the surgery required for this fight and then zuck comes incredibly over the top here, which I think is the knockout blow of this whole thing.

27:44He says, I think we can agree that Elon isn't serious and it's time to move on. I offered a real date. Dana White offered to make this a legit competition for charity. Elon won't confirm a date. Then he says he needs a surgery. And now I asked to do a practice round in my backyard instead, which is so random. I think Zuck put a cage in his backyard. Oh, I saw that. Which is kind of hilarious. He said his wife was thrilled. If Elon ever gets serious about a real date and an official event, he knows how to reach me. Otherwise, time to move on. I'm going to focus on competing with people who take the sport seriously.

28:21I will say some of those photos of him with Israel Adesanya go pretty hard. Really? Yeah. I mean, I respect it. I would love to train with Israel Adesanya. That'd be sick. Yeah. I don't know who that is. He's one of the best UFC fighters. Okay. I think, here's the thing. I think Zuck would do this fight only because I think Zuck has really been training and really, like, ready to fight. Yeah, this is in his wheelhouse. And I think Zuck is looking to fight someone, very much like Jake and Logan Paul and many other, you know, Mayweather, you know, sort of. He wants to fight fights in which he knows he's going to win.

28:57Yeah. Hey, Zuck can beat my ass. I don't care. And that's the thing. And so he's looking for a fight with people that are somewhat serious, but like not serious enough to actually kick his ass. And I think Elon Musk would fall into that category. He'd love nothing more than kick Elon's ass publicly in front of people. Oh, yeah. I mean, it would rule and it would probably go down like that, too. And that's why it will not happen. That's right. Exactly. Musk doesn't want this. Musk's ego is too fragile to handle a public submission. Zuck would kick the shit out of Musk. We all agree that, right?

29:30We've seen that he's been posting the photos shirtless with real trainers. I believe that Zuck is a psychopath, and he loves a side mission. I mean, both of them are fucking psychopaths. Any billionaire is a psychopath. That's fair. But I just don't think that Zuck is taking this fight unless he knows he's going to win, and I think in this case he does. Absolutely. And I think Musk is just going to never do this fight. He'll talk about doing it because he knows it's going to stir up news, and he loves to troll people. Yeah, he'll probably have an – even if it does get some steam, he'll have like a convenient injury or something.

30:02Yes, exactly. Yeah. Which is sad because I do want to see this, but I just – I have no expectations that I ever will. It would be awesome if like maybe Musk – or sorry, if Zuck ignored the tapping and ignored the referee and just, you know. I think Zuck is – Or eternally finished Elon Musk and then got a hard sentence to jail. And then kind of two birds, one stone there. This is a Kevin fantasy, I think. I think it's just not going to happen. And I think it's just funny that they're like, for Italy and epic location, to think of these two people as gladiators fighting in ancient Rome. It's like the fucking egos of these fucking guys.

30:51It's like either fight or don't fight. Like don't make this whole spectacle about where it's going to be. It's like it's never going to happen. It's just not happening. They sound like some fucking grade schoolers. Yeah. And I got an epic location. Oh, yeah. Pay respect to the past and present of Italy. It's like what are you talking about? You're not fighting in any way, shape, or form. There's no ring. There's no gladiator stadium. There's nothing happening. you think about it elon musk and mark zuckerberg are kind of like modern day gladiators yeah fighting in the world of uh you know attention and yeah yeah yeah yeah fuck these guys honestly can we both agree though that like these two guys like just shut the fuck up yeah absolutely just like stop like stop putting yourselves out there and i think i think zuck is happy to just like win in the court of public opinion which is like i think you'll i think he which is our show which is our show and he would win this fight and and he knows that he he's been he's been baited into this whole thing we didn't talk about how you got psyoped into being a jake paul fan oh by the documentary on hbo or psyoped into being a jets fan psyoped into rooting for jake paul yeah dude i just believe whatever uh documentary television is in front of me um no i didn't i don't i'm not a jake paul fan i i think he puts asses in seats and i think i've always been intrigued by watching him like fight these shitty fights yeah but he's like boxing a little bit he's misunderstood right he's like a he's like a no he's not misunderstood he's a damaged soul no he's a douchebag he's like he's a fucking youtuber and he's but he's he's good at getting people to pay attention to him Which is a skill in this fucking shitty world that we live in.

32:40Yeah. And to be honest, boxing is dead. There hasn't been any enthusiasm around boxing since fucking Mayweather De La Hoya. No, Mayweather McGregor was pretty hype. No, that was a fucking fake fight too. It wasn't. It was real. No. When did Mayweather fight, not De La Hoya, but who he fought? Pacquiao? hacky out like that was like 10 that was like 15 years ago and so the fact that no one has cared about boxing since and so fucking jake paul's back you know is is putting a little bit of uh you know excitement into this and i'll go on tiktok or whatever fucking streaming platform and illegally watch it for 10 minutes while the fight is on and go back to whatever i'm doing sure yeah that's the attention span i got for this uh kevin uh that is a lot of pre-show stuff that is a lot we're dipping you know we did a lot of stuff that's the format we ditch the format guys i don't know if you know this but like formats are for fucking losers we don't need a fucking format i mean there was a stretch last year where you're like oh we like we're just do we need do we need to do pre-show do we like what's pre-show what's regular show yeah you're it's all the show it's the show it's the fucking show but um yeah next story dialine.com uh america's favorite Dunkin' and Donut shop.