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0:00Can you actually turn me down in my headphones for the first time ever? Wow. I know it's a little loud.

0:13Kevin what's going on buddy nothing much I love this shirt I know new one it is a new one I just got it yeah yeah talk me through it um it's a New York lottery t-shirt okay not sure of what year vintage tea shout out snake bite vintage um it says retire early and it has a hundred dollar bill on the front and the new york lottery logo yeah so it's pretty good that's pretty solid i noticed kevin that you have a bit of a brand it's like a working man that'd rather be on vacation kind of aesthetic you know retirement core is what i'm gonna call it it's it's working for you I like it. I think it's a good vibe.

0:56I actually almost bought you a shirt from Shirts That Go Hard. Yeah. It says, podcasting? I'd rather be rodcasting. Yep. I like that one. I was like, that's fucking Kevin. That's a perfect shirt for you. I'd rather listen to my rodcast. There you go. I would. Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. What was the other hat that you had that said, I'd rather be skiing or something like that? Work sucks. I'm going skiing. See? This is a collection of shirts building up to a personal brand. Yeah, it's a brand. But any good brand is based in core truths about a person. Yeah, principles. Or principles, yeah.

1:38Yeah, values. Yeah, they reflect the things I value and the things I find important. That's right. And the things I like. Wow. The things I want to portray. That's right, exactly. I do like vacation. I'm a vacation head. Kevin, when do you start teaching at the SVA Masters in Branding? Damn, I should. I know, you really should. Get me in there. I think, again, if you have three items of clothing that speak to retirement, then that's a... I think you should just lean in and keep going. I don't know. SVA might be a little stuffy for me. I want like a city of New York school. Yeah, like a Bronx. Yeah, or a tech institute.

2:18Or maybe like high school. I like this for you. I would never just say anything disparaging about SVA, the greatest school in the world, the Masters of Branding program. Sign up today and learn from the greatest people. I mean, they're not paying us. I mean, if they shelled out some – I mean, they're not paying me. Yes. Yeah. They're not paying Kevin. Moving on, Kevin. But if they did, I'd say nice things about them. You would, of course, because you're a good guy. How was Dave & Buster's? Oh, Dave & Buster's – I don't know. It was a tough sled at Dave & Buster's. Really? Really? I mean, we had a take.

2:55Couldn't get it going? No. I mean, I got it going. I won a bunch of tickets, obviously. But I don't know. We rolled 12 deep. We had a resi. You have to get a resi at Dave & Buster's. Really? Where is Dave & Buster's? So we couldn't get a table at the Brooklyn one, Atlantic Terminal. So we had to venture our asses all the way up to Times Square. Oh, shit. Which was pretty interesting because, I don't know, I don't really make it up to Times Square very much. Yeah. And it was kind of a treat just to get up there. Yeah. Fucking freak show. Oh, Times Square is insane. I mean, you forget that people go there from all over the world to see a landmark of the city.

3:40And it's a crazy place to be. It smells crazy there. I regret not getting a harder FitPic at Times Square, but it's whatever. You can always go back there, Kevin. It's always there. That's the thing about time. It's fair. I got my fill, though, because 7 p.m. resi. Oh, wow. We roll up. I'm right on time to the resi. And we get our table. We get a couple towers. We get a cocktail tower of some blue shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Famously known for their blue shit. A couple beer towers. Are you going ironically or unironically, you think? It's kind of both because I think the thinking was, let's go. We were going for my friend Ian's birthday.

4:25Yeah. Shout out to Ian. Yeah, shout out to Ian. In front of the pod. It's a blurred line between the irony and the not. Because it's fun. It's an actually fun place to be, but it is ironic. We were trying to catch the UFC card, and they have it there. They plug that. You go to Dave and Buster's, you watch some sports. Long Island's great. Yeah. I didn't see his fight. It was prelim. It was on ESPN. That's why you probably didn't see it. Yeah. He wasn't on the main. Hate to see it. Yeah. Headline the prelim. I don't know. Food was awful. Okay. Drinks were fine. The beer was good. The blue drink sucked.

4:59I can't do that. And then, yeah, we played some games. I accidentally got got with a power card deal and ended up spending$200 on. four separate cards that I spread out. We figured it out. We figured it out in the end. Yeah, the gaming experience there was pretty sus. Almost half the machines were broken. And I feel like it's a uniquely New York thing where it's like this establishment that probably runs a lot smoother anywhere else in the country is just overwhelmed with people, understaffed, and the people who are working there probably don't really give a shit because they're just frantically running around trying to deal with all this.

5:52We were trying to get on the air hockey table, which just wasn't happening. It was so competitive. People were like – Elbowing each other. They were cutting in line. There were some altercations we saw around the air hockey table. Not physical, but people were getting a little heated. So we didn't get to play air hockey, sadly. but wow i was doing my part i won a bunch of tickets towards the end i was like ian had a bunch of credits left on his card i was like i'm gonna ticket max this so i took it to the game that i was you know running it up on pushed over the edge we got his ass a nice david buster's winner t-shirt oh shit yeah some merch yeah some merch and i um i won myself a led toilet bowl light um that changes colors it's got eight colors very on brown it's great yeah i was super psyched I installed it when I got home at 5 a.m.

6:46No. Late night. Jesus Christ. That's how excited you were. We went to an Irish pub after, and then we went to a karaoke room after. Oh, man. And then finished night on the promenade, Brooklyn promenade. Wow. Yeah. Sounds like a night. It was quite a night. It was epic. Yeah. But yeah, ravaged my entire apartment to find three AAA batteries. So that you could light up your toilet bowl in different colors. Oh, yeah. Is that through your phone? Is that how it works? No. Just a little clip, a little light? Just clips there, and there's like a button. Okay. Well, congrats. That's great. I was super stoked on that.

7:19Not a ringing endorsement for Dave & Buster's, I'll be honest there. Their visual identity system, though, by Mother. Shout out to Mother. It was pretty solid. Oh, you thought it was working? It was effective? Yeah, I thought it was working. The design enhanced your experience of Dave & Buster's? It really did, yeah. Made the menu really legible and made the things all look delicious. I'd like to think that it would be better at Atlantic Terminal, but I'm not so sure. Yeah, I don't know. That's also one of the worst. I think it'd be better in the suburbs. Yeah. I think Dave and Buster's got to probably go to the suburbs.

7:50Yeah, it makes sense. Atlantic Terminal is the Times Square of Brooklyn. It really is not too far off. But yeah, that doesn't exactly make me want to have my next birthday party there, from what I'm hearing. Yeah, I probably wouldn't. But yeah, Times Square, Dave and Buster's like, you're going to... That's what... I don't know. I'm not shocked to hear that. No, I mean, it was probably exactly on a Saturday night, like exactly what you would expect. Exactly. Incredibly sugary drinks, borderline unedible food, and a bunch of wonky machines. I will say wings were not that bad. I think I had like maybe one or two wings.

8:24Okay. Well, shout out to Dane Busters. The only event I went to this week was the Snacky. So shout out to Andrea from Snack Shot, our most recurring guest, right? She's been on the show three times, I believe, which is at least one more than anyone else. I don't know, Pete. Pete's up there. Yeah, I guess, but anyone from outside the studio. True, true. She had an event last week called The Snackies. It was an award show. It was at a very swanky place called Maxwell in Tribeca. And people dressed up. She asked people to do a black tie or something. I know. I saw some photos of the line, and then I remember hearing you say that you were not going to dress up.

9:05Yeah. I love Andrea, and I'll support her. I'll go to any event, but I'm not putting on a tux, unfortunately. I mean, I dressed up. I didn't look like - What did you dress up? I mean, I just wore a pair of nice pants and some boots, but I wore a hat. I didn't go full night. There were people there legitimately wearing tuxedos. Wow. There was at least one person, but I think the people that were the most dressed were the people that won the award. also who knew they were going to be like you know featured did any friends of the program win uh noah from ruby uh shout out to they're actually a bunch of uh pod uh guests you know john from sea monsters no from ruby some other yeah no i i was a little late to to the party but um so i didn't see the line but yeah no just i did see some photos of uh it was a great event like i just will say um if you're not familiar with snack shot you're not familiar with andrea like she's she's crushing it she just absolutely has built a community i hate to use that term but it's really true and uh you know in a city where there's literally one million things to do on a thursday night and couldn't go into david busters in time square like the fact that she has an absolute packed house um uh is is just you know incredibly impressive so shout out to her really beautiful event um they my favorite part was they had an ice luge of oat milk for the brand minor figures if you're familiar with them.

10:27Oh, yeah, I saw that. And then they had like a Better For You cereal that you would pour the Ice Lugia into. So that feels like a very Andrea thing. And yeah, I mean, just a lot of fans of snacks. So you'll love to see it. Kudos to Andrea. Yeah. Was it a packed house? It was. It was packed. You know, kind of the things and people you'd expect at a Snackshot event. You know, tons of snacks. It tastes like other snacks. Better For You snacks. Better For You snacks. Lots of guests from a show. an award show that was, yeah, it was great. And Andrea, you know, of course, she's the queen bee of these events.

11:01And she's, you know, she's running around doing a million things. And, you know, just, you know, just really impressive more than anything. And I had a moment where I was like, man, like, this world of new brands and startups and, you know, trying new things and innovation. It's like, it's something that I've been interested in in a long time. But it's cool to see that there's a lot of us out there. There's a lot of people out there. And I booked a couple people on the show. Oh, great. Yeah. So I did some Lincoln Building. Nice. What else, Kevin? Oh, what are we watching? You watch Telemarketers.

11:34I did watch this first episode of Telemarketers. Solid. It's great. Yeah. I'm in it. Yeah. You ready to sign up to work at CDG? I mean, yeah. I would love to work. No shade to my current place of employment and current co-workers but that goes hard like i feel like that's maybe a workplace that could never exist in today's world because of the internet possibly yeah yeah no i mean it's certainly uh a relic of a time the 90s and like late 90s early 2000s when yeah the internet youtube like he was putting stuff online but like it didn't get a ton of traction damn it sounds like us it sounds like Sounds like us.

12:21But yeah, no, it's a fucking wild scene. I think episode two was a little bit slower for me because they start to – CDG closes, spoiler, and then they start to go into the bigger mystery, which is just telemarketing and kind of this giant scam. So they kind of take a pivot towards actually trying to get to the bottom of things. I mean, I love a doc about just rich people abusing power and then hopefully the fall of said rich people. Exactly. And that's kind of what it becomes. But my favorite part was the friendship of the two main guys. That's really sweet. And like kind of their - We got him and Pat.

13:00Yeah, Pat is an absolute legend. I know. Absolute legend. I'm not going to give anything away, but episode two ends - I think I probably guess. With a cliffhanger about Pat and his whereabouts. I think I can - Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Put two and two together. You can, but it's, yeah, I don't know. They're teasing it out. It's Sunday night, like HBO. So it's kind of, I don't know. There's no other show right now. That's kind of the thing. I mean, John Wilson, what are you talking about? But is that a Sunday night? No, it's a Friday night. White Lotus. It could be if you wanted to. The thing with streaming, Alex, is you can watch them anytime.

13:35That's fair, but I need a Sunday night show. I need like a Sunday night, nine o 'clock, you know, appointment television show. Without it, I'm lost. okay you know so hbo i hope you got something cooking i need i need it i think summertime though notoriously has been i think one of the times where tv kind of slows down and now it's a writer strike i don't know yeah like we're we're in for tough sledding i think because typically the fall is when tv starts picking back up again oh yeah but they've been striking for a while now i don't know so we'll see what's out there they're probably just emptying the inventory right now i don't know uh was curb coming back did i was hbo teasing that i think so yeah i think it's coming back for its final season i think i read that or i think i remember that happening so um but if not i guess we're just gonna watch these like shitty reality shows forever and ever and i wonder if they're gonna do any like cheryl heinz rfk jokes why what's that Oh, she's married to RFK, who's running for president and has some takes.

14:42Yeah. I think, yeah. Weird. But that's been, is that new or is that? I don't know if that's new. No, it's not that new. So I think if they would have done it. Kevin, I have a show that I'm watching that I need to talk about only because it involves Ryan Reynolds for people that are - Oh, no. You got got? For people that have been listening to the pod for a long time, they know that I have a vendetta, a personal vendetta against Ryan Reynolds. And it's been kind of ongoing. He's yet to come on the pod to defend himself. But I found myself kind of looking for something to watch. And my number one passion is sports documentaries, Hard Knocks, all the stuff on Netflix.

15:27He made this for you. And I couldn't help myself but start watching Welcome to Wrexham, which is a show about Ryan Reynolds and the guy from Always Sunny who bought a Welsh football club. And it's kind of like Ted Lasso, but real life. They're in the fifth league, and they suck. But the town loves them, and it's been the heartbeat of the city for 200 years. And it's a story not about football, Kevin. It's more about life. Um, and, uh, sounds like you're getting psyoped into liking Ryan Reynolds. And, uh, yeah, there was a moment in the beginning where I was like, fuck, like I'm going to wind up liking Ryan Reynolds after this show because I was like, maybe I was being too hard on him.

16:17Take the slide out of the deck. Maybe it's not his fault that he's six two and handsome and rich and plays the same role in every movie. Like maybe it's not his fault. But then as I started watching this show and he starts doing more self-aware, winking at camera bits in this show, I'm like, this is a fucking show about football. And you bought a team. It's good. It doesn't need to be fucking self-aware, ironic humor. Stop it. Stop it. They did a very special edition of the show about Wales and history lesson. And I was like, fucking stop, Ryan Reynolds, you fucking loser. Like, stop doing this.

16:58And like part of me was like, oh, this is kind of cool. Like, obviously, if I had, you know, billions and billions of dollars or, you know, if I made liquor money and movie star money like he did, maybe I would buy a low level, you know, team and like try to bring them, you know, like I think that's a very cool thing to do, I guess, is where I'm starting from. Yeah. Like that rules, right? It does rule. That's pretty fucking awesome. And the town, it's like this fucking old Welsh town. They had shitty owners for millions of years. They were going to knock down the oldest football stadium in the world.

17:34Whoa. Which is what they have there. But Ryan Reynolds comes through, and so they're like, he's a god. He steps in front of the bulldozer. That's right. Stop it. Exactly. Wings to the camera. Yeah, he's in his fucking Marvel suit or whatever. fucking dead he's in his dead pool suit he shows up and no but it's like it's very cool like the town immediately is like so thankful for him and he's like you know these two guys are heroes and they they're there to try to build the club up it's a very beautiful story but then he just has to fucking ryan reynolds all over the place i bet he does he has to like he shows up to a game and like you know he's like oh is that how you score a goal is that good i don't know like just being making bad jokes like i don't know stupid stupid stupid stupid fucking fuck you ryan riles i'm sorry i don't know i think you're gonna come around yeah how many more episodes you got so i kind of powered through a lot of season one uh over the past couple days and there's two going for season two i like again i love of i love sport doc what's about underdogs what's the breakdown of like ryan reynolds time on camera versus like about like the football team story it's about 50 50 it's a lot of ryan reynolds but the other guy um rob mackal honey i don't know what his name is fucking um mac from always sunny yeah i never watched that show mackal honey like it's about you know so they're 50 50 partners or they're i don't know if they're but they're partners in this sort of takeover of this team.

19:11And so it's a lot about sort of them and like the fact that the club, like they installed new grass and then the grass didn't work. So they had to install new grass. So it's like, it's a story about their ownership, you know, what it's like to run a team and then also the team and the coach and the players, and then kind of them in LA on zoom talking about the business. nice. And so it's good. Honestly, I like it. So I'm going to just say, if you haven't seen it, check it out. But it's a little too much Ryan Reynolds. You heard it here first. Alex is coming around on Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, a little bit.

19:47A little bit. But it's hard. It's hard. He continues to make that same single joke. He's not making it easy. Yeah. And he is undeniably incredibly handsome. You see him walking around this town in Wales, and you're like, god damn this dude is fucking just got a beautiful face it's very tall and he's just like you know it's just it's just you know is that that's that's not his fault um speaking of beautiful uh face ti's son got veneers did you see this i did uh diamond encrusted veneers king harris that's his name king very cool name very cool name he's 18 years old and the internet is flaming him because he got new teeth.

20:31Veneers are kind of a trend, I guess. I feel like having incredibly perfect teeth is something you can buy. And his face is a little too small for the teeth. Yeah, he'll grow into them. Or not, I don't know. I don't think you should put veneers in a growing child, though. He's 18. Yeah, but he doesn't look like a grown adult. He looks like a child. Maybe that's where he's topped out. I don't know. I guess, I don't know. I think that's why people are making fun of him, is because his mouth isn't big enough for these teeth. He kind of looks like AI. He kind of looks like Mid-Journey, when they add too many teeth and too many fingers.

21:11He's kind of got that energy. I don't know. I looked at the still screenshot of him, and I didn't think it was that bad. And I think he's an easy target, because he's like T.I.'s son. Yeah, Nepo baby. He's Nepo baby, and presumably maybe he has or hasn't done shit. Who knows? Um, but I don't know. Teeth look fine. Like let the kid live. Yeah. You're just jealous because you don't have fucking diamond encrusted teeth. You're hating from outside of the club and you can't even get in. Kevin, if you show up with a face of pearly white veneers, you know, I'll, I'll know you, uh, you really have retired early, you know?

21:47I mean, I wish I could get, that'd be sick. I wish I had veneer money. I mean, listen, Kevin, when the show blows up and like we're fucking, you know, got, you know tv money and we're on you know sort of millions of viewers every day yeah we're fully on camera i mean listen i i could you know veneers is not the craziest move i'm gonna write them off yeah you know i think because they do look perfect if you want perfect tv teeth yeah that's what they do but does king harris ti's you know sort of i believe he raps shocker yeah i hate to say this ti washed up rapper i mean he's retired probably yeah i mean he had a good run he had a moment i mean he had an excellent run but i mean he hasn't he hasn't been the rubber band man wild as the talent yeah uh that he had a show on netflix that i actually really liked it was like next americans great rapper that's not what it was called but like he was a host oh yeah it was like him and chance and cardi that was good i like that show yeah they found like the thing about that show was they they had it's a really fun like american idol type show and they found one guy who was like kendrick lamar's cousin oh yeah perfect for that show that you watch where it's like related uh family member he was like kendrick lamar's cousin and he was like i don't say he's not as good as kendrick but he he was pretty fucking good like he came in with like a he had like a very distinct style he was like he was a good rapper or showman and he won that show by a million miles.

23:17Netflix should produce a show about finding the next great podcasters. Don't give away that show, that idea. That's a billion dollar idea, Kevin. Yeah. Podcast challenges. Do the Zad Reed. Yeah. Talk about Casper. You know? There we go. Zip Recruiter. Maybe that's where we should go. Yeah. That's it. America's Next Great Podcaster. Yeah. I don't know. I didn't think the teeth were all that bad. And I don't know. I've been looking. I need to get some dental work done. That's just mad expensive. I've been looking into where I can go. Maybe a little medical tourism. Medical tourism. Oh, you're going to go overseas.

24:02I mean, Eastern Europe and Turkey is looking pretty nice. They say Turkey is pretty ace for medical tourism these days. Yeah. You see those pictures of the planes coming back and everyone's got new hairlines? Yeah. I'll be coming back with new teeth. How much do veneers cost? I don't know. I can't imagine they're super cheap. No, they're probably like... I mean, it depends if you want to get a good job. Whoa, the average cost is$2 ,000 to$4 ,500 per tooth. Yeah. Fuck, dude. That's a lot. Yeah. They last up to 15 years. Damn, and you got to re-up? Fuck, man. That's rough out here. I mean, listen, if you're on TV or...

24:40A lot of reality stars do it because if you're going to go on Love Island and you got busted teeth and you're going to be fully on camera for a month, I get it. But if you're just – I don't know. If you're doing it for Instagram, it just looks – I don't know. It looks crazy. We got to move on, Kevin, because we got the big fucking story, biggest of the week. A huge story. We've been waiting for this moment. Here it is. Yeah. He teased it a couple months ago. Yeah. Billy's back. Billy's back. Billy's back, baby. I'm obviously talking about Billy McFarlane, disgraced but potentially rejuvenated.

25:18And the founder of Fyre Festival, the infamous festival that happened or didn't really happen back... What year was that, Kevin? It must have been like 2018. Fyre Festival. Definitely pre-COVID. When was the original year? That was in 27 in Exuma, the Bahamas. Wait, where? Who could forget? Exuma, that was like the island. What year was it? 2017. Okay. And so everyone knows what happened there. The show was a complete mess, and it was a giant scam. Billy went to prison for it because he scammed so many people out of money. And there were two, not one, but two documentaries made about it. and uh he's been in jail for quite a number of years but billy got out i think last year yeah we covered it we talked about billy coming out and uh you know talking some shit on tiktok and yeah kind of uh you know doing his billy shit and uh the thing we've all been waiting for really is and we all knew was coming was fire festival too yeah billy's redemption arc starts now That's right.

26:32So Billy has, yeah, the big announcement happened yesterday, and he claims that he was in solitary confinement for seven months. I did look that up, and it is true. That's true. He was actually, I don't know if it was seven months, but he was in solitary confinement because he got caught doing podcast spots while he was in prison. Damn. Put me in solitary confinement. Yeah. And so the big announcement obviously got a lot of people, myself included, excited. And Kevin, all it is is a video. It's one single video. It has a new logo. Yeah, they released the new logo and teased the visual identity system with the title card.

27:21It kind of looks like an O and an F connected, which I don't really know why a fire festival would have an O. But listen, design doesn't matter here. The real story is that Billy walks out in a robe, shot vertical. So it's a horizontal video where Billy is shot on his phone. It's on TikTok. Like that's the reason. But I watched it on YouTube. Yeah. So. What was he going to reshoot the video in vertical? Or I mean in horizontal? I mean, this is his big announcement, Kevin. I mean, also remember the first video was like shot with drones and like. Yeah. Shout out Matt Projects. Yeah. Shout out to Matt Projects and all the big promotion that started the first one, which got all the enthusiasm and hoopla about this amazing festival.

28:10You know, I think Billy needs a fucking powerhouse design agency behind him. I mean, at least someone to shoot this video in HD, you know, it looks like it's shot on a camera. It is shot on a phone. On a phone. Yeah, yeah. I said it was shot on a camera. It's definitely shot on a phone. So the video starts, Billy's in a robe, and he says that while he was in solitary confinement, he wrote a 50-page plan on how to make this second festival work. He got 50 pages in seven months. That's not even that impressive. Yep. And so this would – how he would take the demand and the interest from the original fire and then bring it to people all around the world.

28:50So, Kevin, what did he come up with? He came up with Fire Festival 2, which they just announced tickets, where there is no venue. Yep. There is no lineup. Yep. So the location is loosely the Caribbean, which is dozens of islands. Yeah, I clicked in. I clicked into the location on the website and had a Google Maps link. I clicked in and it was just like a large, like nowhere specific. It was just like the Caribbean. The Caribbean, which again, lots of islands, lots of like... Could be anywhere. It could be literally anywhere. And the only thing that is actually tied down here is a date in 2024, December 6th, and it has an asterisk, and at the bottom, subject to change.

29:45He's given himself a good amount of time to execute this, which is a smart move on his behalf. So hopefully you can get some positive momentum, book a venue, get some guests, take care of the logistics, maybe bring back Andy King. Yep. So my question is, Kevin, what was in the 50-page plan if the launch event doesn't have – listen, I'm not an event planner. Like I'm not a promoter. I've never thrown a concert. But like I know that you need only a couple things, right? You need music. You need a place to listen to the music. And you need a date that you can go and listen to the music. Here's the thing, Alex.