In short
The episode is a BBC Global News roundup plus culture segments. Main news: President Trump says the US-Iran ceasefire/MOU is “over” after fresh exchanges of strikes. US Central Command says it hit more than 80 Iranian targets; Iran says it targeted US sites in Bahrain and Kuwait. The escalation follows attacks on three oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz and the US removing an oil-sanctions waiver. Iran’s negotiators call the US actions violations and warn they will respond heavily. Key claim: Trump says talks can continue but are “a waste of time,” while the MOU’s 60-day window remains unclear. Ukraine segment: Trump promises licenses for Ukraine to produce Patriot interceptor missiles; Zelensky and Trump discuss talks in Kiev. Sudan segment: UN warns of catastrophe in El Ubaid amid intensifying drone attacks and fears of RSF atrocities.
Guests
none in the transcript; correspondents include Caroline Davies (Jerusalem), Sarah Rainsford (Kiev), Akisa Vandera (Sudan), Paul Moss (France), Rob Watson (UK), Andrew Rogers (Paris), and culture editor Katie Razzle interviewing Christopher Nolan, Matt Damon, Tom Holland, Anne Hathaway, and Zendaya.
Notable examples
El Obed drone strike injuries; France police-shooting law debate; Nigel Farage by-election resignation.
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Chapters
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0:38 to 1:26
Summary of key news stories including Trump and Iran, and a new film.
“Hello, I'm Ankur Desai and at 16GMT on Wednesday the 8th of July, these are our main stories.”
Trump's Remarks on Iran Ceasefire
1:26 to 4:10
Discussion on Trump's aggressive stance towards Iran and the ceasefire situation.
“My son walked into my office while I was writing on The Odyssey and said, where are your Oscars?”
Analysis of Trump's Negotiation Strategy
4:10 to 7:07
Insights on the implications of Trump's comments and ongoing negotiations.
“Does it mean that we are going to see further attacks, further escalation, further tit for tat?”
Iran's Response and Regional Tensions
7:07 to 9:24
Exploration of Iran's reaction to US military actions and the situation in the Strait of Hormuz.
“Well, Tehran has described the US bombardment of coastal facilities as a blatant violation of the ceasefire, warning it will take decisive action.”
Ukraine's Defense Strategy and US Support
9:24 to 13:58
Discussion on Ukraine's needs for missile production and Trump's diplomatic efforts.
“I talked to President Zelensky, and I think that's all I've done my whole life.”
Crisis in Sudan: El Ubaid Under Attack
14:00 to 14:40
Learn about the escalating civil war in Sudan and its impact on civilians.
“Search for BBC News on YouTube and you'll find Global News Podcast in the podcast section.”
Voices from El Ubaid: Survivor Accounts
14:40 to 17:18
Hear firsthand accounts of the dangers faced by residents in El Ubaid.
“as they did when they took the city of El Fasha last October.”
Upcoming eSports World Cup in Paris
17:18 to 18:24
Discover the excitement around the upcoming eSports World Cup in France.
“Still to come in this podcast, Paris will be the gaming capital of the world for the next seven weeks.”
Controversial Police Bill in France
18:24 to 21:03
Examine the debated legislation regarding police conduct in France.
“And despite vocal opposition from left-wing groups who argued the measure could amount to a license to kill, the legislation was eventually approved by French MPs.”
Farage's Political Stunt in UK
21:03 to 24:52
Analyze Nigel Farage's controversial political tactics and implications.
“I mean, one thing you need to know is that the French police already have one of the highest rates in Europe for shooting people dead.”
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The eSports World Cup: A Global Event
24:52 to 28:00
Learn about the significance and logistics of the eSports World Cup in Paris.
“While the world's attention is on the carnival of football stateside, there is a rather different World Cup about to kick off in France, the eSports World Cup.”
Christopher Nolan's Retelling of The Odyssey
28:00 to 32:32
Discover Christopher Nolan's approach to adapting Homer's The Odyssey for modern audiences.
“The Oscar-winning filmmaker Christopher Nolan is renowned for his ambitious large-scale blockbusters like Oppenheimer, Interstellar and Dunkirk.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. The United States is about to mark its 250th anniversary. And so on the Global Story podcast from the BBC, we're telling surprising tales of American influence on the world stage and in ordinary people's lives all across the globe. We have this ability to export our story and a lot of people have bought it. I feel like the American dream is alive but not well. From the BBC, it's the United States at 2.50. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. Hello, I'm Ankur Desai and at 16GMT on Wednesday the 8th of July, these are our main stories.
0:48President Trump warns the US will again hit Iran hard later today, after earlier declaring that the ceasefire was over, following fresh exchanges of military strikes. He was speaking on the sidelines of the NATO summit in Ankara, where, speaking alongside President Zelensky, he also promised to license the manufacture of vital Patriot air defence missiles to Ukraine. Elsewhere, French MPs have approved a new law, which would mean police are presumed to have acted legally when they shoot someone. And also in this podcast, how do you follow Oscar-winning box office conquering movies like Oppenheimer?
1:26My son walked into my office while I was writing on The Odyssey and said, where are your Oscars? And I said, well, I'm trying to write a new project and if I've got Oscars sitting on the shelf, think about how daunting that would be. And he looked at me and said, but you didn't win for writing. Hollywood director Christopher Nolan and his star-studded cast talk about the new blockbuster movie The Odyssey.
1:49President Trump has warned the US will again hit Iran hard later today after early declaring that the ceasefire was over. He was speaking at the NATO summit in Ankara. To me, I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them anymore. They're scum. You know what scum is? They're scum. They're sick people. They're led by sick people. And they're vicious, violent people and if they had a nuclear weapon they'd use it as far as i'm concerned it's over i'll speak to our negotiators they want to negotiate they're good people steve whitcoff jared kush but they have to come back to me as far as i'm concerned it's just a waste of time dealing with them they're liars we make a deal and they if i make a deal with him we have a deal and he goes out he talks we make a deal everyone's agreed no nuclear weapon we make a deal they go outside, talk to the press, they say we never even talked about it.
2:44There's something wrong with them. They're cuckoo. As far as I'm concerned, it's over. In the latest clashes, U.S. Central Command said it fired at more than 80 Iranian targets. Iran said it targeted U.S. military sites in Bahrain and Kuwait. The U.S. strikes followed attacks earlier in the week on three oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz. A correspondent in Jerusalem, Caroline Davies, is monitoring developments. She told us what she made of President Trump's comments about the ceasefire. Firstly, to just say that President Trump almost seems to be saying two things in the course of his comments.
3:20Obviously, firstly, and very clearly, he said when asked, is the ceasefire still holding? Is the MOU, the Memorandum of Understanding, which was signed only just last month, is that still in place? And he said that as far as he is concerned, it's over, were his terms. But at the same time, he was then asked, does that mean the talks are finished? Are they over as well. And he said, well, they can continue to talk, but I think they're wasting their time. So he's not pulling his negotiators out of these talks and these conversations, which we know are ongoing. We know that that's part of the memorandum of understanding that they've got 60 days, according to that at the moment, to continue to have these discussions.
3:56And that that process is not stopping, but that President Trump is saying that as far as he is concerned, the ceasefire and the MOU is no longer holding. So what exactly does that mean is going to happen next. And that's what's really unclear. Does it mean that we are going to see an increase in hostilities again? Does it mean that we are going to see further attacks, further escalation, further tit for tat? Or, and this isn't necessarily completely exclusive, is this also a potential negotiating position from President Trump? What this slightly reminds me of is the period when we had a ceasefire, but no MOU.
4:29So the ceasefire was originally agreed back in April and then was sort of continually extended. And during that time, we saw both sides accusing the other of violating that ceasefire. We saw lots of tit for tat back and forth with military bases being targeted. And it wasn't a sort of level of full hostility that we'd seen when the war started, the US and Israel offensive began initially back in the end of February. And then, of course, the response from Iran, it wasn't that level of response. But we did see continual back and forth between the two sides during that in-between period. And during that time, you also heard from President Trump talking almost in a carrot and stick terms about this negotiation with the Iranians, saying that there are all these wonderful things that would happen if there was an agreement between the US and Iran, and if there wasn't, the sort of damage that he would inflict on Iran instead.
5:23So is this him returning to a similar position, or is this genuinely a change in where we have been in the course of the last month or so, and that we are now moving towards more hostilities, that is what is still unclear. Yeah, it's interesting to know that maybe he's putting pressure, not just on Iran, his own negotiating team as well, to try and come up with some solution. And this comes off with the backdrop of more serious clashes than we've seen for quite some time. Yes. So, of course, this particular recent clashes started because there were three tankers earlier this week that were hit when trying to cross the Strait of Hormuz, the US and Israel and Qatar, they blamed Iran for those attacks.
6:00Iran's never directly said that they were involved. However, they did. The foreign minister put out, made some comments, essentially saying that if people were to use alternative routes that had not been agreed with Iran, that they risked what he referred to as a collision. So there wasn't a direct recognition. However, after that happened, that was the point at which the US then decided that they were going to remove the waiver that they'd got in place on oil sanctions. And then, of course, overnight, last night, we had this announcement from the US saying that they were now conducting these strikes on sort of defences, air defences in Iran, and also on their capacity to be able to attack ships that were crossing through the Strait of Hormuz, including targeting, they said, more than 60 of these high-speed boats.
6:44So that was what the US response was. Then Iran said that they had attacked military bases in Kuwait and in Bahrain. So again, initially, that was all seen as a bit of a tit for tat back and forth. But the fact that the president has now said that the ceasefire and the MOU is over in his eyes, it does beg the question, how much further does this escalate? Caroline Davies reporting. Well, Tehran has described the US bombardment of coastal facilities as a blatant violation of the ceasefire, warning it will take decisive action. Iran's top negotiator, Mohammed Bagheer Galibaf, posted online, the era of bullying and extortion is over.
7:23It leads nowhere. We don't fold. There's been no official statement on President Trump's comments that the ceasefire is over. But as we heard from Paham Gabbadi from BBC Persian, the message from Iran's leaders over the last few hours has remained defiant. They are saying that we will respond heavily, but Iranian chief negotiator, has tweeted and he has said that he's accusing Americans of violating the Memorandum of Understanding. And he mentions several things. He says they have violated Iranian adjustments in the Strait of Hormuz, their persistent threats of further strikes, their reinstating of oil sanctions and attacks on southern Iran.
8:05And also he calls Israeli attacks in Lebanon. He says these These are the things that are the reasons that Iranians are reacting. But the thing is that Iran wants to exert its control in the Strait of Hormuz. According to the Memorandum of Understanding, they're not going to charge for 60 days. But it's vague. It says that Iran can do some adjustments. What are these adjustments? How are Iranians going to manage the Strait of Hormuz? So Iran does not want any ships to go through Oman because they want to have the control because they're saying that a few days ago, Iranian ambassador to China said that after the 60 days is over, we are going to get some fees.
8:45They say it's not a toll, but it's some fees. And the reason for that is that this is an infinite source of income for Iran, whereas oil waivers, as you can see right now, they can be just cancelled in a minute or if anything develops. Pam Gabbadi from BBC Persian. At the NATO summit, Donald Trump also spoke alongside Volodymyr Zelensky, Zelensky, who said they would hold formal talks to discuss air defences, a drone deal, and crucially, Ukraine getting licenses for patriot missile production, which are those key interceptors of the ballistic missiles Russia has been pounding Kiev with. The US president said he's still actively negotiating with Vladimir Putin.
9:25I talked to him. I talked to President Zelensky, and I think that's all I've done my whole life. I made deals. That's, I guess, becoming president was making a deal. It was like a lot of little individual things. In the end, it's making a deal. And that's what I do. And I do it well. And I know when people want to make a deal, I think he wants to make a deal. And I do feel that President Zelensky would like to get back to rebuilding his country as opposed to, you know, having all of this death and destruction. Our correspondent, Sarah Rainsford, was watching from Kiev and spoke to Lucy Hawking is about what we heard.
10:05I think particularly important, just generally the mood music, the atmosphere of these pre-talk talks, if you like, this encounter between the two men, which we can get into in a second. But yeah, in terms of the real concrete results already, even before they've sat down for their formal talks, is the announcement by Donald Trump that he will allow Ukraine to produce Patriot missiles. And that means interceptor missiles for the Patriot anti-ballistic missile system. So to allow Ukraine to be able eventually to produce the missiles it needs to shoot Russia's ballistic missiles out of the skies.
10:44Now, why is that important? Well, not long ago, about an hour or so ago, just behind me here in the distance on the horizon, there was a huge, huge cloud of black smoke coming from a very big fire in the distance. Just the latest evidence on the horizon here of what Russia has been doing to Ukraine. And that is hitting it hard with missiles and with drones for days and days and causing a lot of civilian casualties here. Another two people killed here in Kiev today, two people in Kharkiv up in the north too. So the argument Ukraine has been making is that it needs the ability to protect this country from Russia's ballistic missiles.
11:20And for that, it needs American technology. Essentially, it needs patriot missiles. Now, interesting to underline that Donald Trump was asked, Will he give Ukraine more Patriot missiles from American stockpiles? And he said, well, we don't have many. We've got some. We've not got many. We need them. But he said Ukraine will be able to produce its own quickly. We're going to give them the license. He said, I haven't told the company yet, but that's going to happen. So I think, you know, that's not going to happen immediately. It's not going to solve the immediate problem. But it is something, as you say, that President Zelensky has been asking for for a very, very long time.
11:50Sarah, he said, President Trump, that he speaks a lot to President Putin. He said he definitely wants to end this war, would like a meeting perhaps to take place in Moscow. How much can we read into that? That is something that has been said before by President Trump, but he seems quite convinced that Vladimir Putin wants to move towards some kind of settlement and an agreement to end the conflict. Yeah, I mean, a few things there. The fact that Vladimir Putin is suggesting a meeting in Moscow means he doesn't really want a meeting because that's obviously never going to happen. So I think that's the first thing to say, And it was quite an amusing moment in the press conference when Volodymyr Zelensky chipped in and said that perhaps he wouldn't like to go to Moscow because for Zelensky, it was a bit dangerous because, as he put it, there were a lot of Ukrainian drones in the skies over Moscow.
12:38So a bit of Ukrainian humor there. But yeah, certainly Donald Trump is saying that President Putin wants a deal. He wants to end this war. He's also saying that, as he understands it, Vladimir Zelensky wants the same thing. And that's certainly what he says publicly. Whether that is actually realistic, well, he was asked and he said that Russia's conditions for the end of this war had shifted slightly. He suggested, didn't give any details. We haven't seen any sign of that publicly. It's true. I think what is interesting is that Donald Trump tends to take sides. And what was it, 18 months ago in the Oval Office, there was a really acrimonious meeting between Zelensky and Trump.
13:16Mr Trump referred to that today. He said, we actually have really good relations. It's hard to believe if you remember what happened in the Oval Office. They do have a much better relationship. And now what Donald Trump is talking about is very much in line with what Ukraine has been telling him, saying that Ukraine has the advantage on the battlefield, saying that Ukraine has an advantage in the skies with its drone technology, talking quite admiringly about Ukrainian soldiers and Ukrainian technology and repeating quite a few lines from President Zelensky. And that is new. He never used to do that.
13:44He used to repeat Vladimir Putin. So I think the fact that he shifted the way he's thinking, the way he's talking is really significant to Vladimir Zelensky and to Ukraine as those two men head into this meeting. Sarah Rainsford reporting from Kiev. And we have more on this on our YouTube channel. Search for BBC News on YouTube and you'll find Global News Podcast in the podcast section. There's a new story available every weekday. To Sudan now, which is in its fourth year of a civil war. The United Nations is warning of an impending catastrophe in the Sudanese city of El Ubaid, home to half a million people.
14:21It's a strategic hub linking the capital with Western regions and has seen a significant uptick in drone attacks over recent weeks. Military analysts think there could be an imminent ground attack by paramilitary rapid support forces. If they take the city, there are fears the RSF could carry out atrocities, as they did when they took the city of El Fasha last October. Our correspondent Akisa Vandera sent this report. And a note, we changed the voices of some of these interviewees to protect their identities. We were sitting at the gas station waiting for a car. We just suddenly heard the sound of the drone's missile and suddenly the whole world lit up and then went dark.
15:03Sarah, not her real name, was waiting for transport in Sudan's city of El Obed when a drone strike hit a nearby fuel station. The sounds became distant. We couldn't hear well. And in front of us, there were injured people, blood, burnt cars and smashed cars. The 27-year-old student survived but has shrapnel in her leg. This is a current reality for Sarah and over half a million residents of El Obed in Sudan's North Kodofan state. For months, El Obed offered refuge to people escaping conflict across Sudan. More than 100 ,000 displaced people have sought shelter there. But now, as drone attacks intensify and shortages of fuel, water and essential supplies worsen, many fear the city is becoming another front line in Sudan's war.
15:59UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Volka Tark warns that a humanitarian catastrophe is unfolding. It is a red alert that needs to land on the desks of heads of state and government around the world. The city sits at a strategic crossroads, linking army-held areas around Khartoum with the western Darfur region that's largely controlled by the RSF. Hospitals, too, are struggling. A doctor in one of the city's major hospitals told the BBC the situation is terrifying. We receive injured patients after almost every drone attack, and the hospital is under constant pressure. Last week, a seven-month-old baby was brought to hospital after being injured.
16:45Her hand had to be amputated because of the severity of the injury, but sadly, she did not survive. Human rights groups now fear some of the warning signs missed in El Fashe, including attacks on civilian infrastructure and the disruption of basic services, are beginning to emerge in El Obed. But while the fight over the city escalates, its residents are fighting to survive. People now leave their homes saying goodbye to their families because they don't know if they will return or not. That report by Akisa Vandera. Still to come in this podcast, Paris will be the gaming capital of the world for the next seven weeks.
17:27Hello, I'm Nikita Sirmitev, aka Derke, playing for Team Vitality in Valorant. You were based in Paris? Really excited because I had never played in front of a French crowd before yet. The Esports Gaming World Cup kicks off with a combined prize spot of$75 million.
17:51When you hear the phrase made in China, what do you think? I'm Tristan Redman. And I'm Asma Khalid. And together we host the Global Story podcast from the BBC. And today on our show, we look at the origins and evolution of made in China because it actually wasn't inevitable. What we're talking about is the world's largest communist nation is at the beating heart of the capitalist system. For more, listen to The Global Story on bbc.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
18:24This is the Global News Podcast. There was heated debate in France on Tuesday evening as ministers in the National Assembly deliberated over a highly contentious bill that would automatically presume police officers acted lawfully in cases involving shootings.
18:46And despite vocal opposition from left-wing groups who argued the measure could amount to a license to kill, the legislation was eventually approved by French MPs. Supporters said it would provide necessary protection for law enforcement officers facing increasingly dangerous situations on the ground. I got more on this from our global affairs reporter, Paul Moss. When you look at it in detail, it is a little hard to see what it changes. And that indeed raises interesting questions about exactly why this bill was introduced, which I will come to. If a police officer was prosecuted for a killing, they would be presumed innocent anyway, as all criminal cases.
19:25But the reason why we heard the kind of protests you heard just then, why it's got people so angry is they're worried that it sends a signal to the police by saying, look, there will be a presumption you acted lawfully. They're saying this gives the police a right to kill, but they're licensed to kill. But what the people who defend the bill say is, look, if the policeman shoots someone, then the prosecutors can overturn that presumption and proceedings can begin. But as you see, very, very divisive. OK, so it's very controversial. The bill's won support from the government and also parties of the right, far right working together.
19:59So just talk about the politics behind this as well. Well, the politics are very interesting here. And there's a funny coincidence on Tuesday, as well as this bill going through before Parliament, what we also saw was judges saying that Marine Le Pen could stand for the presidential election when it comes in France. She, of course, the candidate for the far right national rally. Now, the national rally have for years been saying we need more bills, more laws to protect the police. And it's interesting, they've been calling for it. But this measure was introduced, in fact, by a centre right MP from the the Republicans party and as you suggested supported by the ruling party of Emmanuel Macron and what cynics are saying is look they do not want to go into an election with a national rally able to say look we're the party that's tough on crime we're the party that supports police they don't want to be outflanked in this way and so therefore they're adopting the measure and giving it their support I should say the mill does still have to go before the upper house but with this kind of broad political support.
21:00I don't think it's in any danger of falling. But it will be opposed. I mean, one thing you need to know is that the French police already have one of the highest rates in Europe for shooting people dead. I was just looking at the figures, the last years for which there were figures, I think it goes up to 2024. They shoot between 50 and 70 people dead every year. Disproportionately, they are black or from an Arab background. And that has led to lots of calls for people to say, look, we want tougher monitoring of police, more investigation when they shoot people. And in fact, this law clearly goes in completely the other direction.
21:32I should mention also it continues the trend. In 2017, they brought in a law which said police are entitled to shoot at someone if they're driving away and they can't stop them in any other way. And a group of academics studied this. They claim that led to a massive increase in the rate at which police were shooting people dead in France. And what they're worried about is that this measure will have the same effect. Paul Moss reporting. After the leader of Britain's populist right-wing party Reform UK announced his resignation, forcing another election to take place in his constituency, all the major political parties have now said they won't put forward candidates.
22:10Nigel Farage, whose party is leading the opinion polls, said he will stand as a candidate in the election, describing the vote as a battle against the establishment. Opposition parties have labelled it as a stunt. The background to this is that Mr Farage is being investigated over private donations he received before becoming an MP, which he didn't declare. Our political correspondent Rob Watson told us more. What's triggered it, what's made this actually happen just yesterday is the build-up of stories, in particular a new story at the weekend about how Nigel Farage had received gifts in kind from a supporter in terms of staff and officers, and that was on top of a story that had been running for some time about how he'd received five million pounds from a crypto millionaire.
22:59And essentially, in British politics, the kind of rules are that even if you're not an MP in the year up to becoming an MP, if you've received any donations of any kind that might be seen to be political, you need to declare them. And Nigel Farage hadn't. Now, he has argued, look, they were all personal. It's nothing to do with my role as a politician now. But others have disagreed. And it's being investigated by the Parliamentary Standards it's commissioned certainly the the five million donation so why now i think nigel farage has just decided look i'm going to take them on i'm going to come out fighting uh he's pitched this as he has before as you were saying as a battle between the people that's him against the establishment by which has meant that the main parties and the media and of course he's doing it because you know these stories have been rather damaging because you know he styles himself as nigel Farage, man of the people, and this kind of stuff about lining your pockets doesn't look very good.
23:53Now, if the other parties won't take part in the by-election, what does that mean, Rob? Because some of the other parties are accusing Nigel Farage of a stunt. Absolutely. I'll gimmick, several different words. I mean, the verdict of many of Britain's newspapers this morning is that it's in danger of turning into a farce. I mean, if they don't stand, Nigel Farage stands without any of the other main parties, it'll be a, well, it would look like a walkover. So yeah, it's as dangerous that his gamble, which was about taking on the establishment, reasserting that, you know, him against the establishment line falls rather flat.
24:29Just very briefly then, Rob, how is Nigel Farage taking all of the scrutiny? Is it him trying to reassert the upper hand, I guess? Well, he hasn't been taking it well. And there are two views. His supporters say that's because, You know, the main part is the media genuinely have it in for him. His critics say it shows you that he's rather thin-skinned, doesn't like scrutiny and is therefore unfit for high office. Rob Watson reporting there. While the world's attention is on the carnival of football stateside, there is a rather different World Cup about to kick off in France, the eSports World Cup.
25:03Now that's competitive video gaming, if you're wondering, where top players and teams from around the globe battle it out in front of huge crowds and online fans. Around 2 ,000 of the best competitive gamers are participating and a flashy opening ceremony will take place on Wednesday night by the River Seine in Paris. It's the first time the event, the biggest in global esports, has been held outside of Saudi Arabia. As the BBC's Andrew Rogers explains. Welcome to Paris, where over the next seven weeks, the world's top professional gamers will compete for a record combined prize pot of$75 million, playing games like Call of Duty, Football Sim EAFC and Street Fighter.
25:49Plenty more too. There's 24 games in total as part of the line-up. Here's how it essentially works. Players are part of big multinational teams based around the world. Win an event and you get a cash prize and points. Get the most points by the end of the summer and you don't just get a big trophy, you get a bonus$7 million too. That's something these fans say is worth watching. Pretty amazing. I've landed here earlier today and just traveling here to get to the event. So I'm from Austria. I'm from Germany. As soon as I heard that it's in Paris, I had to get tickets. Yeah, the same. We were stopping in Paris on vacation and my buddy over there was like, the eSports World Cup is in Paris the same time we are.
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26:28and so we booked tickets just for fun. It might be really hot outside right now, but inside the massive and thankfully air-conditioned Port de Versailles Convention Centre, events have already started taking place, including the one that this guy plays, Valorant. Hello, I'm Nikita Sirmitev, a.k.a. Derke, playing for Team Vitality in Valorant. And you're based in Paris. I'm really excited because I've never played in front of a French crowd before yet. These crowds making plenty of noise, but all of them are actually here pretty last minute because this isn't how things were meant to go. The eSports World Cup has always been held in Saudi Arabia, a country this event gets lots of its funding from.
27:09But with just weeks to go, it announced it would move to France because of instability in the Gulf region. Mike McCabe is one of the tournament's top bosses. This is over 45 ,000 square metres of space. We have seven stages. It's a massive undertaking. We have enough cable powering all of these incredible technical systems to get basically from London to Birmingham and back again. We still can't quite believe that we're here. Everything's working. Organisers say it was always planning to move to new cities, but global events meant bumping that plan up sooner. It did, though, leave just weeks to arrange complicated live broadcasts and opening ceremonies expected to be watched by millions online.
27:50Not that these guys mind. I booked my tickets right away and came. So it's great to have this in France. It is just amazing to see that we get a bit more Europe representation. Andrew Rogers reporting from Paris. The Oscar-winning filmmaker Christopher Nolan is renowned for his ambitious large-scale blockbusters like Oppenheimer, Interstellar and Dunkirk. And now he's turned to one of the oldest stories in Western literature for his next project, a retelling of Homer's epic The Odyssey. It features some of the biggest names in acting and was filmed on real ships in seas across six countries. Matt Damon is Homer's hero Odysseus.
28:30Tom Holland plays his son in a story that is nearly 3 ,000 years old. But according to Nolan, it's crowd-pleasing popcorn stuff. Our culture editor Katie Razzle met him and some of his stars. Everyone wants to work with Christopher Nolan. We're running more. Matt Damon plays Greek hero Odysseus. Help me go home. He said, I'd like to offer you the lead role. And so I just said, yeah. And he goes, don't you want to hear what it is? I think his king is coming back. No, he's not. Anne Hathaway is Odysseus's wife, Penelope. When I got the call, it was how quickly can you get on a plane to Los Angeles?
29:05Because I live in New York with my family. And I said, I think I've missed all the flights today, but how about tomorrow? Unlike Hathaway and Damon, Tom Holland as their son. My dad is coming home. And his wife Zendaya, who plays the goddess Athena, are first timers in a Nolan movie. You yearn for that opportunity and then you get the opportunity and that comes with a lot of pressure. Even Christopher Nolan was a little intimidated after the success of Oppenheimer. You're talking about turning theory into a practical weapon system faster than the Nazis. You have ways of coping with it. My son walked into my office while I was writing on the Odyssey and said, where are your Oscars?
29:46And I said, well, I'm trying to write a new project and if I've got Oscars sitting there on the shelf, think about how daunting that be. And he looked at me and said, but you didn't win for writing. Just from the jump, I thought this isn't the Penelope that I've come to expect. This is a volcano of a woman. Promise me you will come back. What if I can't? Anne Hathaway's character has waited 20 years for her husband to return from war while watching her son grow up without him. It was really interesting to kind of translate what my idea of being a loving mother is to 3 ,000 years ago. I know this is going to sound silly, but go to a pre-therapy world.
30:22You know, there's no such thing as gentle parenting in ancient Greece. The stakes were really, really high. She's already been separated from one great love in her life. And so I think that makes her cling more tightly to the other great love of her life, her child. There are big themes to be read into this film. What makes a man? The trauma of war and the ancient Greek tradition of hospitality to strangers. It's essentially a golden rule. It says, treat others as you would be treated. And when that principle of respecting others is ignored or abused, things fall apart. Have we lost that hospitality that the Greeks talk about?
31:01There's a danger that we're not valuing it as we should. But if you think about it, it's so fundamental that if we'd really lost that, it would be chaos and anarchy everywhere around the world. I mean, it is what holds our society together. And when you're making a film like this, do you think about how it will be received by modern audiences and whether it is picking up something about our culture. No, I don't. But I also trust that if done right, that process will lead to something that does reflect the world we live in. What would he do if he came back here and I'd find all these suitors in his house?
31:33Tom Holland's got two big films this summer, a new Spider-Man movie and The Odyssey, with its themes around masculinity that feel very timely. Maybe what you can learn from this movie about masculinity is that it comes in all shapes and sizes and there's no version of it that's perfect and that people are flawed. You seem very relaxed about the whole idea of what it is to be a man. I've just lived in my life the way my parents raised me, which was to be respectful to anyone and everyone and to be humble, to enjoy your successes, to work hard and, you know, don't take anything for granted. What was new for you on this set?
32:12What did you learn on the Odyssey? I mean, I did a lot of sword fighting, which I loved. Useful in future life? I mean, if someone broke into my house... You're keeping a sword at home now. I have a cricket bat, actually, and I can wield that in a sword-like fashion. I think it's asleep.
32:32That report from our culture editor, Katie Razzle. And that's all from us for now. If you want to get in touch, you can email us at globalpodcast at bbc.co.uk. You can also find us on X at BBC World Service. use the hashtag Global News Pod. And don't forget our sister podcast, The Global Story, which goes in depth and beyond the headlines on one big story. This edition of The Global News Podcast was mixed by Chris Murphy and the producer was Stephanie Tillotson. The editor is Karen Martin and I'm Ankur Desai. Until next time, goodbye.
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President Trump says the ceasefire agreement with Iran is "over", blasting the country's leadership as "scum" and "cuckoo" after fresh exchanges of fire. Mr Trump has warned the US will hit Iran 'hard' again tonight, but added that talks could continue if they want. Speaking with President Zelensky on the sidelines of the NATO summit in Ankara, he also promised to license the manufacture of vital Patriot air defence missiles to Ukraine. Also: French MPs have approved a bill that would automatically presume police officers acted lawfully in shootings; The United Nations is warning of an impending catastrophe in the Sudanese city of El-Obeid which is home to half a million people; The opening ceremony takes place in Paris for the Esports World Cup; And our culture editor speaks to Christopher Nolan, Tom Holland and Anne Hathaway about The Odyssey, a retelling of Homer's epic story.
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