Abbi Jacobson and Ilana Glazer

22 Jul 2025 · 1 h 12 min · 33 chapters

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In short

Abbi Jacobson and Ilana Glazer (Broad City) discuss creating the show, its ending, and how female friendship and communication sustain long-term creative partnerships. They also talk about millennial life, nostalgia, and “sexual politic” in comedy, plus workplace teamwork through their production company Paper Kite. They plug their advice podcast Million Dollar Advice.

Guest backgrounds

Jacobson and Glazer are the co-creators, writers, stars, and directors of Comedy Central’s Broad City. Paper Kite co-presidents Kate Arend and Kim Lessing (longtime collaborators) join as additional guests/interviewers. The episode also references other Broad City collaborators and guest stars.

Key claims

Broad City was a “North Star” for young female creators; its friendship dynamic is universal (“everyone is either an Abby or an Alana”). The show’s final scene was inspired by Paul W. Downs and is meant to “pass the baton” to viewers. Their partnership relies on early, ongoing communication about jealousy/competition.

Notable examples

The “are you Abby/Alana” framing; the last-scene vision (Alana exits the subway in Union Square, “Abby/Alana everywhere”); meeting at UCB improv practice groups; Jonah Hill being considered for pitching; guest-star days (RuPaul, Kelly Ripa, Lady Gaga, Whoopi Goldberg, Shania Twain).

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Chapters

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Paper Kite Productions Overview

0:03 to 0:30

Kate and Kim discuss their roles and projects at Paper Kite.

“Don't get me wrong, I'm all for taking care of yourself, but being healthy should make your day better, not harder.”

Paper Kite Productions Overview

2:42 to 3:45

Kate and Kim discuss their roles and projects at Paper Kite.

“Hold on, Amy, we have to run your company.”

Memories of Early Days on Broad City

3:45 to 5:48

Kate and Kim share their experiences working on Broad City.

“and we are in charge of the many incredible shows and movies that Paper Kite makes.”

The Impact of Broad City on Female Friendships

5:48 to 8:21

Discussion on how Broad City depicts female friendships.

“But when we left the office, like on the way to the cars.”

Communication in Work Relationships

8:21 to 10:31

Exploring the importance of communication in teamwork.

“Like they went after it with such passion.”

The Philosophy of Supportive Friendships

10:31 to 10:49

Discussing the value of supportive female friendships.

“Like it was easy to be like, let's team up, you know, it was, but it sometimes takes a lot of work, but I think there's never a time when it's not worth it just to try.”

Introducing Million Dollar Advice Podcast

10:49 to 14:02

Kate and Kim introduce their new work advice podcast.

“Like I think, I actually think you said that once and I, it was the first I might heard.”

Introducing Million Dollar Advice Podcast

14:10 to 14:49

Kate and Kim introduce their new work advice podcast.

“Well, you can't get a summer blockbuster delivered, but you can get a block of cheese.”

Reflecting on Broad City’s Impact

15:12 to 17:28

The guests reflect on their show Broad City and its cultural significance.

“There's just so many things to talk about today.”

Meeting and Beginnings

17:30 to 18:32

Abbi and Ilana share the story of how they first met and their initial impressions of each other.

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Creating Together

18:33 to 24:12

The duo discusses their collaborative process and how they started working together creatively.

“Our mutual friend, Tim Martin, I remember he was like, I'm in this class with these two—it's a brother and sister.”

Finding Their Footing

24:13 to 28:00

They explore the challenges of early career moves and their experiences in the entertainment industry.

“I need to be busy because I've, you know, up until now, schoolwork has kept me busy and like the course or whatever that I've been on has kept me busy.”

The Excitement of Collaboration

28:00 to 29:48

Abbi and Ilana recall their excitement about working together and sending their project to Jonah Hill.

“I remember just thinking later, like, you know, it's always smart to, it's like in relationship.”

Meeting Amy Poehler

29:48 to 30:54

Abbi and Ilana describe their first meeting with Amy Poehler and their initial reactions.

“Like I remember all the other milestones, but you saying you're going to, like that was like your hero believes in you.”

Learning Through Collaboration

30:54 to 32:39

Amy discusses how working on Broad City influenced her growth as a producer.

“And I spent a whole day together around the meeting.”

Navigating Comfort and Confidence

32:39 to 34:29

The trio talks about comfort levels and confidence in their performances and the messages of their show.

“But I learned so much from watching the two of you.”

The Power of Female Friendships

34:29 to 36:58

They explore how female friendships provide validation and confidence in their lives and careers.

“Like, I think it's what Brad City did a lot.”

Comedy as a Connector

36:58 to 41:28

Discussion on how comedy connects people and validates their experiences.

“Everybody called us girls, even the people working for us, you know, they called the girls, whatever.”

The Impact of Broad City

43:58 to 45:20

Discussing the lasting impact of Broad City and its connection with fans.

“It must feel good to have people still come up to you and say they love it and say who they think they are.”

Memorable Moments on Set

45:20 to 46:51

Recollecting the funniest and most memorable experiences from the set.

“I do want to just for like people that are big fans, hottest day on set, coldest day on set.”

Celebrity Guest Experiences

46:51 to 48:45

Sharing experiences with celebrity guests who appeared on Broad City.

“That was, there's so many great people that came to the show.”

Navigating Friendship and Work

48:45 to 50:55

Exploring how Alana and Abbi maintained their friendship while working together.

“I think about that a lot actually because we we got her to say man I feel like a smoothie.”

Creative Growth Over Time

50:55 to 53:08

Discussing how both Abbi and Alana's creative work has evolved in the past decade.

“Like we knew that like it's so derived from us.”

Art and Personal Expression

53:08 to 56:00

Alana shares her artistic journey and aspirations in painting.

“we were like, let's not do dinner on Saturday.”

The Meditative Nature of Painting

56:00 to 57:02

Abbi and Ilana discuss their experiences with painting and creativity.

“You should say you're the painter that makes one painter a year.”

Prelude Fellowship Program

57:02 to 58:14

Abbi shares details about her fellowship program for early career storytellers.

“with Mika Tennant, who's like my partner.”

Broadway Dreams and Experiences

58:14 to 59:09

Ilana talks about her Broadway debut and the challenges of performing.

“And I'm like, if I could do that for them, that is, yeah.”

Relationships in Shows

59:09 to 1:01:06

Discussion about the relationships formed during the making of shows.

“But it was such an incredible experience.”

Escaping into Comedy

1:01:06 to 1:02:04

Abbi and Ilana explore what makes them laugh and their current comedic interests.

“People really responded to that relationship in that story.”

Old Movies and Influences

1:02:04 to 1:04:01

The hosts discuss their appreciation for classic films and Barbara Streisand.

“you laugh like what's the what's the place when the world is getting really intense that you like Where do you escape?”

Moments of Realization

1:04:01 to 1:06:19

Ilana shares a personal anecdote about a recent premiere experience.

“David, like, wants to watch all of Barbara Streisand's stuff because we have, like, biographies for little kid books.”

Fostering Supportive Environments

1:06:19 to 1:10:00

The conversation wraps up with reflections on community and support in the industry.

“I had a broad city moment the other day that I was, it felt very broad city.”

Fun Moments and Appreciation

1:10:00 to 1:11:10

The hosts share light-hearted moments and express gratitude towards each other.

“And, Alana, have you had an Alana moment recently?”
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0:34I'm starting this episode in Los Angeles, and then I'm getting on an airplane, and I'm flying to New York where I go to that studio and talk to Abby Jacobson and Alana Glazer, the stars of Broad City, just the sweetest, most wonderful, talented women who in many ways helped my company, Paper Kite, grow and expand into what it is today. And I cannot wait to talk to them. We're going to talk about Broad City, the show, of course, and getting that made and what it was like to do it together. We're going to talk about female friendships. We're going to talk about, you know, life as a millennial and how it's changed and what is nostalgia.

1:17And hopefully we're going to get to all of those things. But I always like to start these episodes with people who know our guests, who have good feelings and thoughts about our guests and want to give me questions to ask the guests. And I thought no better people to ask than the women who run Paper Kite Productions, the co-heads, the co-presidents of Paper Kite, Kate Arend and Kim Lessing, who work with me every day and who are going to join me in this studio to talk about Abby and Alana. So, ladies, welcome. This episode of Good Hang is presented by Walmart School Supplies. We all remember getting them.

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2:41Kate Aaron and Kim Lessing sharing a laptop today. That's how we work. We just have the one. Let's all work on our laptop. Hold on, Amy, we have to run your company. One second. And send. Send.

2:56Sorry. Okay, I'm so excited to interview you guys because we are here in the studio and next door to Paperkite offices, which you co-run, and we're talking to Abby and Alana about Broad City, and it just felt like it was such a great combo because in many ways you represent millennial and zillennial. No. Or gillennial. Gen Y? Gen Z. I'm so cusp. You're cuspy. But it's not with Gen Z. But not with the Z. Anyway, you two represent teamwork in many ways, and I want to talk about that. But also you know how important that show was to Paper Kite, and its growth. So before we start, tell everybody what you do here at the company.

3:44What's your job? So Kim and I, as Amy said, we're the co-presidents of Paper Kite Productions, and we are in charge of the many incredible shows and movies that Paper Kite makes. Everything from Broad City to Russian Doll, Difficult People, Harlem. Yeah, we're producers. We don't produce as a team. We actually produce separately. And we really take on projects based on our passion for them, our availability. Like, we really are, we like to describe ourselves as the engines of projects, the connectors of projects. And we really love every second of doing it. And we've both, we've been here working with Amy for 10 plus years.

4:25Yeah. We will never leave. That's right. She'll have to drag us out of here. We have the keys to this. Well, you do really have all the secrets. Yeah. And they're bad. I'm sorry. I'm so nervous. But, like, I was just trying to do the math of the timing. Oh, we both started on Broad City. Yeah, so tell me how you started on that show and, like, what your memories of the early Broad City days. Well, I actually started on the Comedy Central side. Right. So I was, like, thrilled to get this job at Comedy Central because they were making Broad City. And then I ended up leaving Comedy Central to come work with you.

4:59And I got to work even closer to the ladies on Broad City. And it was like, I knew I was in the right place because I felt like I was making something that actually genuinely represented my life and genuinely represented the types of friendships I was having. So when I first interviewed with Amy, I had just watched season one of Broad City. And I remember being like, holy shit, I've never seen queens like this on TV before. Like no one's ever existed like this on television my age, doing the kind of stuff my friends and I do, speaking the way that we speak. and my first day of Paper Kite, Amy and I did notes on a season two episode and I was like, is this real life?

5:35Like what is happening? And that was your first day? Yeah. Well, maybe my second, but yeah. I got to like send my boss at the time, my notes on the cut. One of the first cuts of, I think I started on season three actually. And she used some of them and I was like, I've made it into entertainment. I was like, I'm in. I was so happy. But we used to do a lot of like are you Abby are you and are you who's who it wasn't a hard one to really say I wanted to talk about it because what was so cool um about what is so cool about the um that show is it it creates these versions of like uh friends and you know much like you know back in the day like Laverne and Shirley or even the Golden Girls or Sex and the City like when you start being like are you an Abby or an Alana what it I think underneath that is it proves like the writing is good that you've identified what a what version of you it was such a specific friendship that it was completely and utterly universal like you just that it everyone was either an abby or an alana so what are you kim i'm obviously alana because i'm like head over heels in love with kate and always have been and always try to touch her butt yeah it started with me being like can i and then again hr i mean i would never do that at work that's we do that's not okay but like when When we left the office.

6:53But when we left the office, like on the way to the cars. When we would hang out on, yeah. In the parking lot. And so Kate, you are an Abby. I'm Abby. She's also a deadhead. Yeah. Totally. Yeah, and we both love Oprah. Yeah. That kind of stuff. And you guys have that crazy Oprah connection where you both like her. So for people who don't know about what we do, right? So we're a film and production company. We do all different kinds of projects. Animated. Unscripted. We do half hours. We do hour-long dramas. But Broad City, we use it a lot as an example when we're talking to creators about, you know, young creators who have an idea and want to transfer it.

7:35And could you speak a little bit to how we use that as an example? We always say, like, Broad City is our North Star. Totally. And it is the North Star, I think, if you were a young female creator in comedy in the last 10 years, that's it. Like, they did the thing that everybody wished they could do that men had been doing for a long time. It was true, like we said before, no one liked them. So we always refer to them as kind of, they're enmeshed in our ethos as a company. Yeah, and they have a lot of elements of things that we really resonate with. Like, scrappy underdogs, women who love each other, people that have messy edges, and also two characters that really want something.

8:15Like what I always related to about Abby and Alana is even though they were like silly and messy, they always really went after the things they wanted. Like they went after it with such passion. Yeah, and they took such good care of each other, which is such friendship is so important to us. We had a conversation day one. If there's any sense of competition or jealousy, we have to talk about it. We have to get it out because it will just sit in and fester and make it stressful and miserable. and communication just, we were smart enough to know then that it was the thing that was going to get us through.

8:45And today, 11 years later, it's still, we're so brutally honest with each other. And then we say thank you to the other person that we can be so brutally honest with each other. And I feel like Abby and Alana were like that. Totally. And just the other day, for example, Kate was like, you interrupted me a thousand times. And I was like, thank you so much for letting me know. We both cried because it was so nice. I was like, I'm so glad you feel comfortable telling me. And she was like, I'm so glad you're going to stop.

9:12It's true. But, you know, we talk about it a lot here. Like, you know, a workplace is, I like to say it's not a family. It's a country. And I like to say it's a family. We reject that, but that's great. Lovers are family. It's a bed full of lovers. It's a bed full of lovers who are all related. It is not. A family of lovers. it's a family that everyone borrowed money from that's right no um a workplace is a country and has it has its own culture and language and set of rules and so what one of the things I think that our country believes in is that in our experience female friendships are a natural resource they are like the most important things in our life and for the most part they're not like these competitive, awful, like, you know, experiences.

10:05They're often like the most supportive experiences. And I feel like you're talking exactly about that, that women often come together and help each other in real time. And that help is like, you know, like rooting for other people's success never gets in the way of your own, basically. But that it's hard to remember that sometimes. And I think a lot of work environments are not conducive. Like ours was easy. You're our mentor. Like it was easy to be like, let's team up, you know, it was, but it sometimes takes a lot of work, but I think there's never a time when it's not worth it just to try. It's like reach out a hand and be like, let's be, let's be a team instead of enemies.

10:47Like rising tide. Yeah. Rising boats. Right. Like I think, I actually think you said that once and I, it was the first I might heard. She invented that quote, I think. I think you're right. You know, I have a laptop. Let's see who can find who said that faster. Okay, can we get to work? Can you move over? Hey, I can do it faster. Immediately friendship possible. A rise in tide lifts all boats is an aphorism associated with what we know. Oh, it's attributed to John F. Kennedy. Wow. There is no way. There is literally no way. That guy has a whole bunch of quotes. That guy gets so much credit he doesn't deserve.

11:21How dare you? I know, you're obsessed. First Irish Catholic. There's nothing wrong with JFK. Literally so handsome. Relax. Guys. My grandmother had a picture of Jesus and JFK in her house. We had such different grandmas. So that brings me to Million Dollar Advice. Yes. We're talking about the podcast that you two are doing. It's going to be—the new season is going to be launching very soon. Tell us about what that podcast is. Okay. So our show, Million Dollar Advice, is a work advice podcast where we have people call and email in and we answer their work-related questions. So it can be anything from, like, how do I deal with my shitty boss to Kim's dying for a question about what to do if your coworker owes you money.

12:08I feel like there's questions you guys are not asking us about, like, you loan someone money for something and they just haven't paid you back. How do you ask? Like, how do you ask? When's it too soon? When's it gone on too long? That's a great question. That's a good question. But basically, Kim and I, because of this amazing communication and partnership that we have, we almost, we're like, we got to share this because we're in on something. I mean, our advice is so good. It's million-dollar advice. It's at minimum million-dollar advice. It's so good. And we get each other through everything.

12:41And so many people don't have this kind of like work friend, work sounding word. They don't have an Alana to their Abby. Or Kate to their Kim, some would say. Right. So we want to be that. for people. And, you know, our first season is like full of the types of questions we're interested in answering and we're hoping for that money question in the second one. Yeah, so we're making more. How can people send in questions? Million dollar advice pod at gmail.com and they can send an email. You can leave a voice note, whatever your fancy is and we'll get back to you and answer your... We'll figure out if you want to call in.

13:13We'll solve all your problems. We'll fix your life. That's the thing. It's like, you're wondering like, how do I fix my life? What do I do? It's like so easy. Email million dollars. million dollar advice pod at gmail.com and it's dawn. Okay, perfect. And then I'm going to get an airplane. I'm going to fly to New York. That's great. What question do you think I should ask Abby and Alana? I have a good one. Okay. I think I have a really good one. Okay. So when you make a show together, it's like having a new baby. Like you're all work all the time. And I was curious like what things they did to fill their friendship cup and make sure that they were still like in love and like staying in love during like the most the hardest longest hours that's a great question um million dollar advice we're gonna check that out we're gonna talk about it more abby and alana we're gonna see them in new york um thank you guys so much for coming across the street to this studio from our offices thanks for having us this episode is brought to you by uber eats summer is here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered by Uber Eats.

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14:57Thank you so much. And I cannot wait to talk about it. It's very exciting. Abby and Alana are here today. My children, wives, sister, partners in crime. I'm very excited you guys are here. Thank you for doing this. We're so excited to be here. I was thinking about our talk today. There's just so many things to talk about today. And I was like so excited. Oh, my gosh. Like I have a paper and everything. For people that don't know, you know, Broad City was a long-running show on Comedy Central that Abby and Alana wrote and starred in and directed and produced and created. And it was and is like this really important show for a lot of people.

15:38and I was thinking about the last scene today. What happened in the last scene? And what were you trying to say in it? And has it lasted? That scene came as a vision to Paul W. Downs. Do you remember that? That's right. He came in. We were writing. We wrote part of season five in LA in an Airbnb. And Paul came in one morning and he was like, I had a flash of the last moment. and I think I think this is where Alana exits the subway in Union Square and we've we've FaceTimed yeah right and and Alana's walking through the city and then the camera leaves Alana and sees the other pairs I just got chills I know and he was like that was like the thing and that was that was what we kind of had always talked about which is just like we're we're one of like thousands and millions of pairs.

16:39And we had just been following us. But the New York of it all was like we were showcasing like, oh, there's Abhinolanas everywhere. Yes. And, you know, we end on, do you know Marie Faustin and Sidney Washington, the stand-ups? But to end on Marie and Sidney was so perfect just because they're so delicious and they're such an iconic pair themselves. Yes. Yeah, so I think what we were, you know, trying to say is that we followed Abby and Alana, but everybody's got their—everybody's—if you're in your own life, oh, you're having your own adventures and your parties. And New York is such a—always this, like, infinitely fruitful backdrop for the craziest shit to happen.

17:25I know. I can't get over it. I've been here 20 years. I can't get enough. I know. I can't get enough. I know. and what it's what it was and I still is and is that what you what you did with that ending I think is you gave the show back to the people that loved it and that's why I think that the you know the DNA cry cry cry um I love to get people to cry um I think it felt um and still feels like one of the big reasons why that show sticks around is exactly what you said is people they are the main characters are their own story everyone is and everyone feels like they're living a life that feels very much like Abby and Alana's life like how am I piecing together a life in real time and the fact that that ending was like passing the baton it's it's very deep and I think it has to do a lot with what we're going to talk about today in your work so for those people that don't know let's go back in time to little tiny babies alana's 19 wow right and abby what are your you guys met what age and where did you meet how did how did you two 22 this is so funny that this well i knew this was happening but um wow 19 years ago my dog yeah this is actually this crazy that i did this last week uh we met in a did what last week i'm gonna get to oh cover that i was going in i did ayahuasca last week and i went right back there uh to 22 no but we were in an improv practice group like we were both taking classes at ucb yeah i had just graduated college moved here you were still at myu um you know you you take classes at ucb and then like Like, you've got to form a practice group, like, after school or, like, at night after your day job.

19:24Our mutual friend, Tim Martin, I remember he was like, I'm in this class with these two—it's a brother and sister. And they're great. Like, can they come and practice with us? And we were like, yeah. And Elliot and Alana came, and I was like, this girl's on Arrested Development. That's crazy. You're like, how does she have time to get off of her ass to do it? It just ended. And I was like, it makes sense. She's in New York. It makes sense. You have like a huge network show. And then you go do practice and crowd groups. Yeah, I was like, she's definitely in my practice group in New York. Just to make sense.

19:59Well, I mean, this is how I remember it. This is my side. And then we go to McManus that night. Which is a bar nearby the theater. And we're sitting at the bar, you and me. And it was like other, it was only guys in the group except us. And we're talking. We're like, where are you from? where you from and I was like smitten with this person like everyone that meets Alana is I was like this person is unlike anyone I've ever met and not like any of my friends and we were just like and she was like I'm from Long Island and I was like whoa like two of my best friends from college are from Long Island she's like I'm from Smithtown I was like so are they and I was like and then I said their names you were like I know them and I was like this is not the girlfriend oh my god I'm literally crying um but I remember you were so I'm gonna cry as well wait Alana's crying what's making you cry when she said smitten i started crying oh my gosh it's just so sweet and i remember you know dramatically falling under the bar that we do know these two same people it's like we're jews we're from the tri-state area like not that big a deal but i was oh i was i was changed that i knew these two people i think what you were saying what was underneath that is like That the universe, like, it's why it's so thrilling to look back at how things come together.

21:17Because the smallest changes in our lives go in a completely different way. And what you were noticing, like, the universe was giving you some signs of familiarity, basically. Like, it's, you know, if you believe in past lives, it's like, oh, we knew each other before. Like, that's the universe just, like, making sure you have something to talk about. So you spend five more minutes talking. So then you spend 15 minutes talking. So then you do a show together. Right, right, right. Wait, real quick. So on Friday, I was in Chelsea, and where I was going, I'm, like, confronted with McManus. Wow. Wow.

21:50When you said McManus, the first time I, like, almost made a joke. It's, like, so rude. But, like, a dumpster with bars, like, you know, nailed in it. It's not exactly a bar. McManus is a bar in New York City for people that are listening. That used to be kind of the place where everybody after improv shows would hang out. And it was, like, green paper tablecloths at the time. and the green leather seats. Yeah. It's just like, yeah, it's like ass grooves and it's never been changed out. Like you're sitting in our ass grooves in McManus. Like it's never been updated. Like the people in the back were like unattainable.

22:23Like at that point we were like up at the front looking like. There was this hierarchy at UCB that we never climbed. We only climbed it outside of UCB through Broad City. But yeah, the further back you went at McManus. Like an invisible velvet robe. Yeah. But I walked in. I went in the side door. Wow. Like, it's crazy. Sticky floors. I went in and we went there so much after that moment. But I walked in. We even shot in there. We shot like the cocktail cold open in McManus. We needed to shoot there. But I walked in and just remembered that moment I just said of you and I at the bar. Wow. Yeah.

23:03That's a real time travel moment. And so you meet and you're like, you're not Alia Shakwat, but I will have you two be in a scene many years later in Broad City. But you say, okay, I see something in you. I love being with you. We like being with each other. And then you start creating. What is the, would you remember like when that creative content stuff started? Like, you know, I think being in this improv group, it wasn't like we got so much duo time. there was something like a grit that was like a tension that was not the same. The difference between us that when rubbed together, you know, created this spark, this like difference, the differences about us that we were like, that's funny.

23:46That's funny. And I think also as women and as young women, it's, you're kind of safer together. So it's like, you're going to cry. yeah now Abby's correct it's I love it it's so good why do we get our makeup done makeup done yeah um we're not gonna get through any questions let's cry let's cry the entire time and I'm gonna get one on deck tissue on deck um but it's like you know it's I think it's so much about sameness when you're young when you're a young woman but we were I think secure enough with each other to recognize our differences and it tickled us and beyond our sense of humor that was both you know venn diagram shared and different it was also like our work ethic we were like desperate to make a spreadsheet you know yeah and we're like we had these ideas and we were like desperate to list them neatly yeah i mean truly neatly like i mean that is i think a lot of like your when you get out of college in that time period where you're like i need to give myself a job.

24:50I need to be busy because I've, you know, up until now, schoolwork has kept me busy and like the course or whatever that I've been on has kept me busy. But you're like, now I have to structure my own busyness. I have to create busy things. Well, something that's just that's coming up for me is all three of us having worked so much in food and service, you know, and there's so much busyness in that, you know, it's just you about steamers landing. You just texted me. Oh, yeah. What was the what was that place you worked? Was it actually called steamers landing? like disgusting even if they still exist I bet the french fries are good though yeah but in Broad City Paul and Lucia had changed it in a script to dumpers post and I remember we were at the office and we were like first reading a script that they got back to us I fell to my knees like bent over a couch fell to my knees dumpers and we're talking about Paul Downs and Lucia and Yellow who went on are now creators of Hacks and who, you know, wrote and directed and produced with you and us, Broad City.

25:58So like they also have their like baby versions of this experience. That's right. Well, we, so we did this improv group for like two years before doing anything Broad City, but it was, it was the two of them actually who we made one episode of Broad City, the web series. and we were like, again, as Alana said, so organized, so organized. And it was the two of them who saw it and emailed us and loved it. The first webisode came out and they emailed us immediately. Keep doing this. Keep doing this. So when you guys were in your second season of this web series in 2011, I was down the street living in the West Village and I get a text from an Upright Citizens Brigade teacher, was it Will Hines?

26:46Yeah. And he said, hey, check out Abby and Alana. They're doing some great web series stuff and they wanted to know if you want to do it. And so I watched a bunch of your stuff and I thought it was really funny and it was shooting right down the street from my house. And you two asked me to come do a small bit. We were like running away. And I remember oranges fell on me at one point. There were, I don't remember anything about the plot. What was the plot? There was barely a plot. It doesn't matter. We were running. We were running. We were running. And we were trying to get toward a, spoiler, a cookie.

27:20The plot was very broad city. We were running to get a cookie. And then after that, as far as I remember, very soon after you sent me an email saying, saying what? I remember this very well we that last episode of the web series we knew we wanted it to be the last one it was like more production value we like worked with this director who it was just like bigger and we emailed you with the cut maybe of it and said this is our we've been thinking and we want to go to LA and pitch us as a show would you ever consider being the executive producer on it we were also like kind of excited that we were like pretty much the same height and when we first met and it was just like this is funny you know like yeah we all love being short literally seeing eye to eye yeah and i remember being like well we we might send it to jonah hill and we knew we were going to ask you but we weren't going to ask you on the spot that day i'm just here to say it was a genius move to say you were going to send it to jonah hill girl incredible move girl your face i will never forget and she goes like you were like she goes no way that's what you did I remember being like I remember being like whoa whoa whoa what I remember just being like she was like pissed immediately pissed immediately like in the race like taking like immediately because I am competitive but I remember thinking like no we Jonah Hill can't take he have broads like so and this was not a ploy no we really were like Jonah Hill you know what I mean whatever but like you know but I remember your your expression you know and And like, I don't know.

29:00I remember just thinking later, like, you know, it's always smart to, it's like in relationship. It's okay sometimes to be like, you're not the only one circling here, honey. I'm dating, babe. I'm dating. You think I'm just waiting around? Yeah. I'm not going to, okay. This, we're open. So, so, so you sent me the email and I was like, let's go. We're in. And we started developing together. Wait, can I just say one thing? Yeah. Your response to that email, I think was the biggest celebration of the entire 10 years. I remember it was on, I think I called you. And I was like shooting some short film upstate.

29:34And she was like upstate in the middle of nowhere. I was like, you clearly didn't open your email, open your email. And like we were freaking out. I was like, I think I had to leave a party. I left a birthday party. It was like, it was crazy. That was it. Like I remember all the other milestones, but you saying you're going to, like that was like your hero believes in you. That was crazy. oh i'm glad you feel that way met okay you were like well let's meet about it oh okay let's meet about it we met before we met for like a good hour we were like okay just to get out just to like pre-vomit you know we were like yeah yeah and we're like what's it gonna be like it could be just in this hallway like before we met i was like this forever kiddo amy poehler like you can just picture what your parents saw you as in the doorway at eight like you're always that like hey And, like, the way you just walked down the hallway to greet us, that was how you walked down the fucking street.

30:32She's like, hello. You know, like, all sunshine. You're wearing these, like, cute sunglasses and a dress. And it's just sunshine. And this, like, ooh, you're, like, your, like, heart is on your sleeve and it's you at eight. And we were, like, it was surreal. That was, like, really, like, trippy, gloopy. The whole lunch was, like, as though I was tripping my balls off. We had a meeting after it as well. And I spent a whole day together around the meeting. Because I remember we were like, she watched every web. Like you came with the legal pad. You were like, we got to make a teaser. We made the teaser from the web episodes.

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31:08The legal pad going through our silly little webisodes, what you thought of each one. And we were like, hum-ma-ma-ma. We were like, what is going on? The thoughts and the, I don't know, real opinions. And we were at, which I'm not going to say where. We were at a restaurant where we were like, this is clearly Amy's favorite restaurant. Got like, you know, those like sort of. I was like saying hello to everybody. Hello, George. How's your wife? Oh, my God. And we're like, we'll just get toast. You know, like, you don't even know how to order at this time. You know, what do you get? Well, we'll get that.

31:43You know, like, just not even knowing how to have, like, be a person around. It's so funny. I mean, I have just nothing but, like, exciting bottom of show mountain memories of it. and you know I the reason one of the many reasons why I'm so thrilled that we're talking today is like to put it in perspective for me Broad City made me feel like a real producer um I had been producing on parks I had produced other things and stuff that I had done and you know we had technically produced our UCB show even though we didn't know what that was that was what we were doing and our sketches at SNL, but Broad City felt like the child that made me the mother.

32:24Like, and it, it's still, when I think about it, I feel so proud to have been, um, along for the ride and just being in, being help, helpful in any way. But I learned so much from watching the two of you. I learned so much from like trying to advocate for the show. I learned so much about what kind of stuff I wanted to make I'm just going to fully cry now Oh my god This is it now Oh my god Oh my god And then plus the voice It's like going to seem so insane Oh my god But it's like dude It's just like you I don't want to cut you off But it's like you know I remember this one time That we had lunch or whatever and like you talked about the sexual politic of the show and i was like i remember like then we'd be like out talking and i'll be like well what we're really trying to do is the sexual politic of the show oh my god can i have like a full tissue this gross half tissue but talk about sexual politic for a second very i've said this before immediately what i learned and this is why i love like the best thing about getting older is like being less and less certain about everything if you're doing it right.

33:45You just know you're supposed to be, you're supposed to let go of the grasp of the things you think you know. And that is what I think young people do, people younger than you do. And even just the very simple way in which you guys approached your own bodies, your own bodies in space, your own bodies in the show, the way you approached, I mean, I remember very specifically saying, you know, if you don't want to get in your underwear for this scene. And the pilot. And the pilot, if you guys feel uncomfortable, and you're like, we wrote it. We are the ones writing that we're in our underwear. And we're so comfortable with how the dynamic is in the scene.

34:22We're so, like, thank you, good looking out. But you're kind of missing the point in a way. And there was a lot of that for me where I watched how you two reminded me of, like, what I, what was, like, an old story or, like, old programming. Like, I think it's what Brad City did a lot. and still does. I will say on that, I don't know how fully comfortable I was in those scenes. But I think that was also like, okay, over here we wrote it and I like loved it so much and I knew that like Abby as actor will have to deal with that when we get to the day. And for me, that like, I feel like that like Broad City was in a moment for me of like a little bit later like huge growth.

35:13Like I feel like I grew up a little later. I'm going to fully cry. And in so many ways because of Alana, which is so like the Abby and Alana. It's what's happening. We're all in like such a luteal phase. Like I think first of all like. But the confidence like of that dynamic of like, like Abby is the insecure one and Alana's got this like bravado. And that's like something that I was like learning right alongside the character because that was real. Yeah. You know, like us being, us being, sorry, I'm laughing. We are. But us being the hottest women in like any room is like, that was like not how I approached going out.

36:05And we, I would go out with Alana as a friend and that would be like, Like, and I don't know if that was like a fake it till you make it, but that was like the charge of like, yeah, you know who we are. And my ass is like the hot, like my ass being a hot thing was not something I ever thought we'd focus on so much. I still love it. And then I was like, I only like only through Alana, like that among many other things was like such a huge change for me. And I think like, so like us being in our underwear, I was like able to be like, I might not be comfortable, but like, I know this is so right.

36:39And this is so powerful and like so funny. I mean, I think that's what female friendships at their best do is they provide this, the opposite of a funhouse mirror. Like they provide this like beautiful mirror that you get to look in and see this version of yourself that your friend sees. And you're right. It's very, it's aspirational. It's kind of manifest-y. but it is like you are sexy if you say so and you're beautiful if you feel so and everybody is beautiful and sexy and in their own way and sometimes you just can't you have to have like a a surrogate feel it for you yeah and that's what you do for each other in female friendships and that's what exactly what Abby and Alana did constantly it's just and it's good for comedy like pumping each other up is funny oh it's so funny and you know to the point before of what I was thinking about sexual politic, you just validated us as women, not as girls.

37:33Everybody called us girls, even the people working for us, you know, they called the girls, whatever. You called us women at such a young time where I was like, damn, I suppose we are. And then, you know, like with comedy, I mean, it's just, I just will never, it's just the fucking best. Comedy is just the fucking best. Why is it the best? Because it's like it's it's this cosmic container that just lifts you up off the ground of like the systems we're rooted in and just connects people so efficiently. It's so efficient. You know, just whatever. Obviously, farts are the funniest. Someone farts.

38:10I disagree. I'm not the biggest fart is funny fan. Like if somebody farts in a context where they're not supposed to you don't giggle i don't think ish it really depends like that was actually a big thing for us on the set of parks and rec because like people would fart and i'd be like don't fart just like in the in life yeah like on no i don't like that that's not what i'm talking about i'm talking if they accidentally fart i feel a little codependently worried about them um no i mean like if somebody farts as a joke to invade your space with odor that's not cool that's like sibling yes that's like not shenanigans we don't like that well what when are farts okay so I remember a good broad city fart I'm meeting your parents it's at like your shiva and Bob Balaban picks me up and we're like and we're adding a fart there that's what I'm talking about that change your mind I'm talking about professorial masterful fart comedy that was really thoroughly thought out and intentional but you're right a little squeeze that comes into a little like and like like it's cute it was cute yeah that's right maybe if the farts are cute and also cute oh for sure but i'm also talking about like adding a sound effect or when you did just we did add the sound yeah yeah yeah i hear you and and and and what and then just to stay in the to get us on the air we you write a script.

39:35We go to FX. We try to make it at FX. They pass. And we kind of have a moment where we have to regroup. I remember just going back to what you're talking about, maybe like when you felt like producer, I remember you would be the one that would have to deliver that news to us. I did. I learned a lot. Yes, that was a bit. In real time, I was learning on the job. You know, I was like, like all of us, like you sometimes it fakes, you make it, you have to kind of pretend. And I remember thinking, right, my job here is to never let, never let anyone feel like, you know, we're not going to solve this problem because it's just, you're supposed to, you're supposed to keep the ship in the water and, you know, you know, and other people can steer it, but you have to make sure it doesn't sink.

40:21And so I remember not quite knowing where we were going to go next, but feeling like I needed to make sure that you felt like we were going to go somewhere good I think we did and you did yeah I'm remembering now another lunch at a place that we never would go but we're like totally we'll meet you there and and it's gonna be chill um Balthazar anyway um so we like met for lunch oh my god but you were like um so you know like lucky for us um Comedy Central had wanted us which isn't always the case and you were like FX is like a cold boyfriend you don't even want them no anyway never you don't want that boyfriend anyway and it was like, yeah, I don't, yeah.

41:00And that time, Comedy Central, maybe to let people know, we were in such good company. Oh, my God. Who else was on the air during that time? Key and Peele. Key and Peele. It was so funny. Workaholics who had a similar, like, web to TV. Amy Schumer. Inside Amy Schumer. Kroll Show. Maybe Nathan For You. Yeah. That's right. Early Nathan Fielder. Yeah. It was such an incredible time.

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43:57Why do you think it's come, you know, it's like sprung back in this way right now? It must feel good to have people still come up to you and say they love it and say who they think they are. It's also like such a newly as we are like becoming like literally middle-aged adults. It's like such a sweet connective thing when people talk about it. When we were younger, they thought we improvised it. We were like, we work so hard to write this over and over and over again. It's just improv. It's slapped together. And that we're like stoned. Like if they're meeting us on the street, that we're stoned in that moment.

44:36They think you're stoned. We think we're the characters from the show. And like what it is now is like it's just reached this like such a warm, sweet like bed for connection. I don't know if you experience, I mean, when we're, we haven't for a second been like out together, but that's a whole other thing. And people are like, what are you guys doing on the street together? But like my wife, Jodi, like, she's like, this is unlike anything. Like to have someone witness it, she's like, you get this, like this wild positive affirmation, like coming at you. That is so rare. that is like a really, I feel very thankful all the time for that.

45:20Before we move off of the Broad City section, I do want to just for like people that are big fans, hottest day on set, coldest day on set. Any memories of like when you were very hot, very cold? Everything was so sweaty, literally sweaty. And I don't know why I was always wearing skinny jeans, so really added to it. Hey, but was the time. We were, Alana sent me something where like something happened And I was like, what are we wearing? You know what's going to happen when you're 70? Because this has now started to finally happen. Skinny jeans are going to come back around. But people are going to be like, this is so cool, these really tight skinny jeans.

45:59And you're going to say, you know, I used to wear—it's wild. Here's hoping. I don't know, but maybe. I mean, remember skinny jeans? I mean, what—I'm trying to think of, like, go out there. They're still going out. They're still—I still see people in them. Yeah, I see millennials being like, fuck you. I don't care. I'm wearing skinny jeans. I feel organized in them. And I'm like, get it. Yeah, well, that's what I mean. It's just now it's like all the way around to if you're wearing skinny jeans, you're a confident person. Yeah. You're, you know. But I also had these straight down bangs for a lot of the show.

46:29Yeah. And I remember they would get, they'd be fully soaking wet. Sopping wet bangs. Marceau would have to be like, dry the bangs. That's so funny. That is so funny. And guest stars. Who comes to mind as people that when you just like pops into your head is like, oh, that was a fun day. That was a good moment. That was, there's so many great people that came to the show. RuPaul just cracks me up. He was so, he was so like studying his lines and saying them to himself that I was like, damn. And I would say Kelly Ripa. I mean, just the way, just her being that version we wrote of her was wild. wild she was so excited too like her joy was like oh my god like she really wanted to be there and it was like so contagious and and do you remember lady gaga tweeting about the show how important that was yes we were in the writer's room that was a season two end of season one she was like oh my god they used my song my favorite i think it was like my favorite show used my song and we met her she like asked us to come or you know invited us to a to a performance and we like went on her bus and like the thing she was yeah it was like right outside the like performance or whatever and she was so kind being like you you remind me when I watch your show I feel like I'm not famous and I'm young again and like just running around the city before all of this which you know she was clearly grateful for but also was clearly quite heavy yeah and it was so many years ago it was like before now she's like such a woman we got her song i mean how did we even afford her song how did we how did we do that i have no idea we paid for it but um how did i think she liked it was like if someone someone involved liked the show someone's manager or something i don't know um whoopee whoopee came in today whoopee bg wordless background role as sister yeah that was wild that was wild and I remember like meeting her and being like and she comes in the trailer she is such a badass like so herself the same she's exactly who you'd think she is and and I like we were just like acting totally cool and we were also in stages that were like illegal and like an abandoned building essentially and I I was like well she was like leaving and I was like thanks so much it meant so much to me and then I she left and I like immediately like turned around and wept and like cried in rubble in like Bushwick rubble that we were filming in for some reason because she was so not only did she do our show but like such a real ass bitch such a like a comedy girl real woman.

49:13Oh my God Shania Twain. I think about that a lot actually because we we got her to say man I feel like a smoothie. I think about that a lot. So game. So game. she was like that was like so crazy yeah she did that for i mean you're pointing at me you oh i'm like that should be a show that was the bear we did the bear before the bear you did the bear before the bear you're right and for people there was a scene where i was in the back of the kitchen and there was a whole drama with me and seth morris another you guys were exes really were We had our exes and we just created a little bit of a thing.

49:53It was so good. And you're right. You know what? The Bears stole. The Bears stole from Broad City. Yeah. You heard it here first. And you directed that. Yeah. I mean, what the fuck? What the fuck? So we do this thing where we talk to people about our guests before they come on. And I was really trying to think about who I wanted to talk to. And what organically came up for me was Kim Lessing and Kate Arend, the producers, co-heads of Paper Kite, have worked together for 10 plus years. They are millennials and they started when Broad City was, I think, Kate's second or third day was we were doing notes on like episode two of Broad City.

50:30So I asked them what they would want to know from you. And from a workplace perspective, they were curious, how did you two keep your relationship, your actual intimate friendship healthy while you were working together? and like as you've gone on to work on other things like what what how do you keep your workplace healthy knowing what you know now and how did you do it then too what do you how do you like to work and what do you bring into your work to keep it healthy as incredible as it was to make broad city it was like we would like always make sure to have a little time up top to connect and catch up lol catch up from 12 hours ago or whatever it was but like um you know but like it just it feels like so um i don't know so human to now have dinner and just be lately we have been like crying so much it's been so it's so like juicy and delicious and nutritious and sweet but at the time it was very much slotted in to catch up and things would always make their way into the comedy which is cool but it's not the same as it being its own just for the sake of its own beauty you And I think we knew that the catching up, it was like the catching up was essential for the thing.

51:50Like we knew that like it's so derived from us. So like we had to kind of like catch up and be like, okay, that's all. Write that down for this thing. What helped you during those times? Like what was the stuff you like, did you pick your battles? Did you? Well, I think like something also was like I'm thinking about it too because like there was tension, like rise and release of tension constantly. and I think like a lot of it was like boundaries and space and being like see you later yeah and like taking the space well we didn't like hang out I think when we were doing it we weren't like we would see you on Monday we weren't like as our friends anymore no during Broad City we couldn't yeah so it's almost like you had to put that a little bit aside just like not like not let it atrophy but not give it a lot of oxygen while you were doing the show yeah it was very like after school club you know what I mean in that it's like this thing of like slotting in 45 minutes to talk before we focus it's like it wasn't it is so like it feels so beautiful now to like just not have a a task at hand you know um but during that time even though we weren't on the weekends I would be like you know if something was happening I'd be like Alana I'm going on a date like what am I what do I wait it wasn't like don't speak to me sure it was just like after truly like 12, 14 hours of Monday through Friday, we were like, let's not do dinner on Saturday.

53:15But who did you go on the date with and what did you wear? Well, I do. Honestly, I remember like this is post Broad City. I saw you the day before I met Jodi. Oh, my God. And I was like telling you what I'm going to wear. Your beautiful wife, Jodi. And Alana was a pushy way. Wait, tell us that story. You were going on a date with Jodi? We were in L.A. and you were staying at Liz's house and I was like, I'm going on a date. By going on a date, it was like so deep COVID. She was like coming over to my house to the patio. And I was like, I think I'm just going to wear like, I know what I wear. I was like, I'm just going to wear a sweater and like black.

53:47I don't know. Like we were still doing that. And you were like, yeah, black, don't do too much. You know, totally. What you wear on a date is really important. Yeah. Because it says a lot. I'm excited. I'm not excited. I don't care. I want to have sex. I don't want to, like, there's a ton of things happening. Yeah. And it worked. Because you bagged that babe. Yep. You bagged her. You bagged that babe. That babe was obsessed. And y 'all are so beautiful and romantic. Like, you're such a beautiful couple. Oh, my God. I know. So, like, also hot. Hot. Hot as fuck. Beautiful. And both of you have had a very busy 10 years.

54:24You become a mom. Both of you have gotten married. Like, you've both done a ton of different projects that you're writing, creating. Like, there's so much that's happened. And I guess I was curious, like, Alana, motherhood is a big creative center in a lot of your work. You talk about it a lot on stage. You made a movie about it, babes. You have this way in which you're, like, peeling that onion a lot. And what's it brought? How has it expanded you and your work? It just has organized everything for me appropriately. Things are just, like, in their right place now, like, in my heart. And it's been so creative.

55:08And work also, like, is work. It's not—and it's a creative context. But it's not, like, how I figure out who I am. It's a part of who I am. Yeah, I just feel correctly organized. That's very cool. Ab, what about the past— That's very cool. What about you, Ab, the past 10 years with all the different projects you're working on and worked on? How has that, like, changed your creative? Because, I mean, I'm curious about you as a fine artist, too. I mean, you're, like, you come from a fine art world. Like, people don't know. For people who don't know, in what way do you express yourself that way? And is it always changing?

55:53I don't do that that much anymore. You're good at drawing, girl. I thank you do you want me to say it I did I went to art school you went to art school I went to art school and I like I I'm a big like goal of mine would be to do to get back into painting and do have like a show what do you like about painting I think I'm in my head a lot which I think is something that we really bonded over yeah uh and it's very meditative for me but like I've Painted two and a half paintings in the past two years. You should say you're the painter that makes one painter a year. And then everybody comes and watches you finish it.

56:32That's what a guy would do. I know. That's right. No, I'm dying to do it. Like, I think it's just like. He'd be like, it's so cool that I only do this much. I only do two and a half. Yeah. And everyone would be like, he's a genius. Yeah, a withholding genius. You're right. Yes. God, he's genius. It takes me a whole year to do it. Exactly. And can I ask you about Prelude? Yeah. Can you talk about it? Oh my God. Because I forgot I told you all about it. Oh, and you did the thing. I did the thing. Do you want to talk about it a little bit? Yeah, we're in the thick of it right now. Okay, so Prelude is this fellowship program I created with Mika Tennant, who's like my partner.

57:08And it's an eight month program where there's 10 fellows that we select. And it's early, early, early career storytellers. And so there's 10, we set them up with mentors and there's ongoing programming with, they have mentorship every month. We have programming every month that I run the programming every month. I have people come in and talk where I ask them questions. Amy kicked it off, which was like, they still talk about that. They still like cannot believe that you came. Of course. And so I'm realizing that like for me, like the success is that they have confidence in themselves. And that's like the best that we can, like that would be like my goal.

57:50They all leave feeling like they have confidence and that they have, they know that like someone believes in them, which like truly just to go back full circle, which is like what you did for us. Like, and I said this to you on the day, I'm going to cry again. When I had you like that, you believing in us and what we were doing, like, I think is what like has fueled us to do everything we've done since. And I'm like, if I could do that for them, that is, yeah. That is so cool, Abby. So awesome. And it really does feel kind of like crying again. Everybody who's listening crying again. And I just want to ask about Good Night and Good Luck because, Alana, it's very exciting.

58:33Like a Broadway debut is, it's such a singular goal. Did you have it? Did you ever have that goal? Did you want to be on Broadway? Like. I am. I mean, I am accentuating the way. I know. Yes, comedians, a bunch of comedians. I believe it's supposed to be Broadway. Talking about Broadway. It wasn't really in my, like, I didn't think about it as, especially since I had a child, it's so time consuming. And since I've kind of got my stand up and touring, now I get it, how to do it, how I do it. So Broadway, you're so in someone else's control. I just hadn't thought about it. But it was such an incredible experience.

59:17You know, it reminds me of Broad City. And then also before that, the early days of comedy. You're just seeing the same people night after night after night. George Clooney was the co-writer and star of this performance. How was our man George? An angel. An angel. He is an angel. He is my hero. He is my hero from like the personal human being to the public figure. He is, oh my gosh, it was such a privilege to perform his writing. And, you know, Ab, we don't have to get into it, but you had a beautiful relationship in League of Their Own. What was the best takeaway of that show? I was just talking to Darcy about it.

1:00:00I know, great Darcy Carden. The most kissable. I know. It was so— So it makes sense. She was kissable. so funny because i was like because i kissed paul so much on broad city and then i was like i guess i'm gonna kiss another one of my really close friends listen we kiss our friends but it also is like i found like i don't know like i don't know i think i'll do that forever of like you're i'm in love with my friends and like there's already that chemistry there um but i guess in the middle in the middle of Broad City is when I was like oh wow I think I like women too um which was like obviously Lana was like very much there for me during that of course and then I was like like everything else I want to put that in the show right and that was very much in the show with Clea who yeah uh like that was so fun and I was so happy that that lined up to get to have that on Broad City and it was like truly us like getting to explore what was happening to me was happening with Abby and like differently but the same which was which was incredible to be able to do that and then on League like I loved making that show it was it was very hard in a lot of different ways it was a period show it was like baseball it was the inner workings of Amazon is not Comedy Central well that was there was a lot more money and at the end of the day I was like I'm writing this ensemble and everybody like it is just a bigger sort of like friend group and so I was like that like to expand that into like a group was like incredible and then to get to write this love story with Darcy was like it was a dream.

1:01:41People really responded to that relationship in that story. Yeah it's been a really cool uh it's kind of like on the like on the street kind of thing I'm like I know what which one you're gonna say based on what you look like and having made comedy for so long what do you what's your relationship to comedy now what do you watch read go to like how do you make yourself laugh right now what's making you laugh who's making you laugh like what's the what's the place when the world is getting really intense that you like Where do you escape? I have a hard time. Yeah, me too. And so I have two things, but I don't—I have a hard time finding them, so I'm very interested.

1:02:27Okay, so I just saw—this just—I just—last week I saw Caperlant's new show. Oh, wow. At the Bell House. I mean— Oh, she's so funny. I haven't laughed that much in a long time. Oh, so live Caperlant. Recommend. She's on tour, I think, right, starting now. And then the show I'm watching that I'm obsessed with that, like, Brooke told me about. Yeah. Brooke Posh. Brooke Posh. Instrumental in the early Brad City. Big Boys. Big Boys? You've seen Big Boys? No, nothing. Okay, hold on. Googling right now. It's so good. It's on Hulu. It's from the UK. Okay. It's so—and it's, like, the mix of, like, it's so funny and really heart—like, there's heart.

1:03:10It's, like, got me. Okay, so it's a sitcom. Yeah. Two boys from very different ends of the spectrum of masculinity become best friends at Brent University. Freshers Week in their first year at university. They explore, experiment, and try to discover themselves. Yeah. I've never read the description. That's what it is. All right. And Alana, what are you listening to? How do you check out or laugh? I've been really—it's like I want to see Kate's show. I really love, like, what my friends are making, like, hacks. I still have to catch up on season four, but that's been really killing me in a good way.

1:03:46I'm just like, oh, this is so good and so funny. I'm living. I'm dying. You know what I mean? And also, the last time I laughed so hard was at O'Mary. Oh, my God. I just died. I'm starting to get into old movies, though. I just watched Prince of Tides. Okay, not so much funny. David, like, wants to watch all of Barbara Streisand's stuff because we have, like, biographies for little kid books. And we're, like, looking at Barbara and reading her life story and we're like, let's just watch the catalog. Oh, my God. And she's, like, she's so stunning, dude. That's a sweet man. Her nails and prints of tides.

1:04:26She directed that. She directed it. Did that. And Nick Nolte. Like, gorgeous. Yeah. And to see, first of all, she's so hot and beautiful. Yeah. And I'm like looking up in Wikipedia and doing the math. She's like 53 in it. And she directed herself and is like, yeah, I'm fucking gorgeous. And so Jewish. Would she say like Prince of Toids? Would it be Toids? It's just like, get it, bitch. Get it. Get it. She has a bio that just came out. Autobiography. And you should hear her do the. The book I heard was. The audio book. Yeah, she's incredible. Barbara, we know you're watching. Yeah. And listening.

1:05:10Barbara, please come, please. Dude. That would be such a good guest. Barbara, Tina and I did the movie Sisters. Her husband, James Brolin, played our dad. Yeah. And my parents visited the set one day. And my mom was like, I wonder if Barbara Streisand's ever going to come. And I was like, Mom, Barbara's not going to come visit. You know, on Long Island, the set of Sisters, her husband is an actor. And she did. And it was the day my mother was there. Yes, dude. Wow. She came to visit, you know, just came to drop by to see her gorgeous, loving husband, James. And my mom was like, I told you. And I was like, this doesn't happen all the time.

1:05:48Don't get used to this. Did they have a moment? They did. I mean, they had like a little hello. She was lovely and very, very lovely to us. And you're right. We don't talk. Barbara, when you come on, let's talk about your, the things you've directed. I want to talk to you just as a director. Like truly. It was so cool. And, you know, learning like how to light yourself as a woman in your 40s and your 50s and your 60s. Just be like, just like make it soft. Just like feel. She is like irresistible. We were just like, she is so hot. I had a broad city moment the other day that I was, it felt very broad city.

1:06:23Speaking of lighting yourself as I was shooting something. And I was looking at the monitor and I said, can I just take a peek to see where you are at with lighting? and the young director of the piece said, oh, don't worry, you look great. And I was like, can I give you a little feedback? I think when women, especially my age, ask for the monitor, saying don't worry, you look great is not helpful. Like it's not like we're being faint or insecure. We're just like trying to tweak just what like we would our voice or performance. Like we kind of, we have a sense of like how we're going to feel comfortable and how we want to come across.

1:07:02Like lighting is a big deal. I don't think he understands. This person understands. I think he's actually trying to make me feel better. I totally get it. But it's just like, LOL, bro. LOL, bro. I mean, OMG, LOL, bro. And then a little. Did you get to see? Huh? Did you get to see? Of course. You just, all you do is you go like. Yeah. I mean, it's always, it's always. and this is very broad city it's always like how much in the moment do you want to like correct and how much do you want to just like you know it is I mean I think what we're talking about today is the reason why people love the show is they feel like there's like people looking out for each other sticking up for each other taking care of each other there's a community in the show there's like a vibe and then what that does it allows you to do that for yourself like that's And then you become your own advocate for yourself.

1:07:58That's what the characters did. That's right. I had a Broad City moment on Saturday, too. I don't know if it has a big culmination like this, but I went to a premiere. And I went alone. Okay? Ooh. Which is wild. And then I went to the party after. And I was like, I'm going to schmooze. And I knew someone. And I was like, okay, we're eating. We get a bite. And then we're going up to the bar. I was like, let's get a drink. And we go up to get a drink. and they were like, they were like, you know what? I don't want to hold the martini. I have to pee. I'm going to go pee. And I was like, all right, well, what do you want?

1:08:33I'll get it. And I get the drink and I was like, oh, look at me at this premiere. I get the two martinis and then they never came back. And so I truly was like, I was like standing with two dirty martinis and I was like, and I was like looking like a true drunk people would come up to me and then I I told Jodi later I was like oh god like people will come up to me that I knew and then people come up to me that love Broad City me holding the two martinis and I was like I'm for the I'm fucking Abby I'm like fucking Abby and I was wearing a thing where like I kind of had to keep adjusting it finally I was like this one looks better and I was like started drinking I was like I abandoned and then how many minutes would you say that you were double fisting martinis i would say too many any number i would probably say 20 yo yeah okay well i was like she's gonna come back here and what am i and then i was like this is good martini they made it like they made i didn't pay for it but i was like abby like it was so they made it they made it for me what am i gonna put am i gonna i'm gonna waste a martini and then i was watching me and i don't want them to think that i'm not drinking it and then i was Like, I'm leaving.

1:09:47In the spirit of, like, self-improvement, if it was 20 this time, how many minutes will you give it next time? You know, there's no world in which I'm getting the drink when someone goes to the bathroom next time. I think I'd be like— That's a good correction. I'll see you when you get back. I'm going to get myself a drink. And, Alana, have you had an Alana moment recently? Is there something that happens where you're like, oh, this is an Alana moment? I have one that I, like, can't say that I'll tell you after. Oh, you can't. Oh, I want to know it. It's naughty. Yeah, it's really naughty. I want to tell us.

1:10:15Have you had an Abby moment? Us filling it in might be more fun. Kind of like what you were talking about with your show. Like us filling in what your Alana moment is. Oh, yeah. It's like dot, dot, dot. Dot, dot, dot, babe. Yeah, let's leave it at that. But I'll tell you after. Okay. Well, dot, dot, dot it is. I love you, too. Thank you so much for doing this. I love talking about the show. I love talking about what's next. You always were. You always will be. Not from, not, oh, Amy Poehler. She's an icon. No, from the fucking in the flesh, delicious, forever eight-year-old person that you are, mother, that you have always been to us, big sister, just friend.

1:10:52You're just incredible. We're so grateful. Thank you for letting this eight-year-old be your producer. She did it. She did it good. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Abby and Alana. Thank you for coming and doing the pod. It was so, so great to talk to you. And it's just a delight always to see the two of you together. And today's Polar Plunge is brought to you by Wayfair, here to help you make your home your happy place. So as we plunge today, I just want to remind everybody about the podcast that Kim Lessing and Kate Arend mentioned at the top of the show. Two women who run Paper Kite Productions, the company that is my production company and that made Broad City and many other things.

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Abbi Jacobson and Ilana Glazer are still rocking skinny jeans. Amy hangs with the 'Broad City' creators and co-stars and talks about their cosmic meeting, the making of their hit show, and the many talents of Barbra Streisand.

Host: Amy PoehlerGuests: Kate Arend, Kim Lessing, Abbi Jacobson, and Ilana GlazerExecutive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, Francis X Bernal Jr., Caroline Jannace, and Aleya Zenieris; audio producer Kaya McMullen; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and booker Kat SpillaneOriginal Music: Amy Miles

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