In short
Andrew Garfield discusses his love of hard work and performance, his approach to method acting (truthfully living under imagined circumstances without harming the cast/crew), and how competition and positive reinforcement shape his motivation. He also talks about his new film The Uprising and shares personal reflections on grief, his mother’s spirit, and service as a guiding value.
Guests
Andrew Garfield (actor; theater and film performer; known for roles including Tick, Tick, Boom; also discussed as having trained to sing for roles and as a “super smeller”/tactile person). Lin-Manuel Miranda (host/guest in the conversation; creator of Hamilton and other major musicals; also discussed as a collaborator and fan of Garfield’s work).
Key claims
Garfield says “method” is often misunderstood and should be generous and truthful, not destructive. He credits competitiveness and sports-like coaching energy (positive reinforcement) for sustaining him through repetitive takes. He describes his mother’s death as deepening his sense of connection to her spirit.
Notable examples
Garfield’s singing preparation for Tick, Tick, Boom; his Munich felt-store anecdote while filming The Uprising; working with Robert Redford (Redford’s relaxed, “Redford time” and reassuring first takes); and David Fincher’s many takes on Social Network (the laptop-smashing scene).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOConversation with Lin-Manuel Miranda
2:14 to 11:28
A lively discussion between Lin-Manuel Miranda and the hosts about collaboration, Broadway, and Andrew Garfield.
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Conversation with Lin-Manuel Miranda
11:34 to 11:59
A lively discussion between Lin-Manuel Miranda and the hosts about collaboration, Broadway, and Andrew Garfield.
“Not checking whether you set an alarm before having an afternoon power nap, only to wake up two hours later.”
Smell and Felt: Andrew Garfield's Sensitivity
12:02 to 14:00
Andrew Garfield shares thoughts on senses, particularly smell, and his love for felt.
“Do you feel like you have a delicate, do you feel like you have a sensitive nose?”
Felt Love and Podcast Beginnings
14:00 to 16:40
Andrew Garfield shares his unique passion for felt while the conversation flows into the podcast introduction.
“And I didn't have much time on my hands.”
The Uprising and Work Ethic
16:40 to 18:48
Garfield discusses his new film 'The Uprising' and reflects on his strong work ethic and passion for acting.
“that's all the time we have But you're talking about the uprising.”
Reflections on Motherhood and Hard Work
18:48 to 22:41
Garfield shares deep reflections on his late mother and her enduring spirit of hard work and generosity.
“You guys have made it impossible to have a serious conversation about creativity.”
Exploring Human Connection and Creativity
22:41 to 24:26
The discussion evolves into the themes of human connection, creativity, and the essence of being more than our physical bodies.
“I do believe that she's here right now and she's everywhere all at once.”
Cultural Identity and Family Dynamics
24:26 to 28:01
Garfield and Poehler delve into cultural identity, family dynamics, and the role of competition in their lives.
“And again, I am no therapist, but I do feel like I am.”
Nerves on the First Day of Filming
28:01 to 33:21
Learn about the nerves and expectations of acting on set for the first time.
“Everyone has the jitters of any first day on any job.”
Exploring Method Acting
35:29 to 40:08
Discuss the nuances of method acting and personal revelations in performances.
“Do you consider yourself a method actor?”
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Hard Work and Acting
40:08 to 42:01
Learn about the importance of hard work and positive reinforcement in acting.
“You've worked with really interesting directors.”
Pickup Artist Insights
42:01 to 43:04
The hosts discuss the concept of negging and its effects.
“Mystery, it didn't work between us, but that doesn't mean that you can't find love.”
David Fincher's Directing Style
43:05 to 46:20
Andrew shares his experiences working with David Fincher and his unique directing style.
“But what's so cool about David is that he's that dad.”
The Emotional Toll of Acting
46:21 to 47:24
Andrew and Amy discuss the emotional challenges actors face in their roles.
“And I'll self-reveal because you're really doing it.”
Hosting SNL and Ensemble Work
47:25 to 49:36
Andrew reflects on his experience hosting SNL and the importance of supporting fellow cast members.
“Sorry, Fred played a character called Nicholas Fane.”
Legacy of Spider-Man
49:37 to 51:24
The discussion turns to the Spider-Man legacy and its significance.
“I think it was the second Spider-Man, yeah.”
Working with Sally Field
51:25 to 53:46
Andrew shares his admiration for Sally Field and his experiences working with her.
“the way they embodied him, like their bodies want to, it's really wild.”
The Importance of Togetherness
53:47 to 55:54
They discuss the importance of camaraderie and support in the acting community.
“um but she never felt uh above or below us ever she never put herself that way no no no it was Or is just like, just her?”
Discussing Long Arms and Columbo
56:02 to 57:28
The hosts engage in a humorous discussion about physical traits and Columbo references.
“Well, I'm not going to tell you what Lynn said.”
Andrew's Fear of Fatherhood
57:28 to 59:52
Andrew Garfield reflects on his fears and responsibilities about becoming a father.
“Well, I mean, I think that would be the biggest, most important thing I ever probably do.”
Andrew's Basketball Experience
59:52 to 1:03:09
Andrew shares a personal story about playing basketball with Woody Harrelson and his feelings of inadequacy.
“I, a sad, I'll, I'll respond in a sad way.”
The Peasants' Revolt Film
1:03:09 to 1:05:45
Discussion about Andrew's upcoming film, its historical context, and themes of revolution.
“I saw the trailer for it and the feeling of like, whoa, this is a very political, very interesting movie to make right now.”
Final Thoughts and Movie Recommendations
1:05:45 to 1:10:00
Hosts wrap up their conversation and recommend a classic movie about resilience.
“You have like 45, but 45 other things to do today.”
Celebrating Andrew Garfield and Film Recommendations
1:10:00 to 1:10:55
The hosts express their appreciation for Andrew Garfield and recommend a heartfelt film.
“And for this Polar Plunge, you know, we talked about some great people that Andrew worked with, including Sally Field.”
Transcript
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0:58Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We have Andrew Garfield on today. Andrew is just the best, a real tenderoni and hilarious and talented and star of film and Broadway. And we are going to get into so many things today. We're going to talk about how Munich has the best felt. We're going to talk about having that competitive spirit, especially when it comes to board games. We're going to talk about being method, but not being a jerk. And we're going to talk about his new movie, The Uprising, which is out now and looks incredible, like all of the stuff that Andrew does.
1:33So we're very, very excited to get started, but we always start our episodes by speaking to somebody who knows our guest, who has worked with our guest, has good things to say about our guests behind their back. And we're going to talk to a legend, Lin-Manuel Miranda. You know him from, oh, I don't know, Hamilton and Moana and the upcoming Warriors musical and five other million things that he's won 10 EGOTs for. Lynn? Hi.
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2:52Lynn? Hi! Hi! I can't wait to get you into the stude. Can I tell you, I had a nightmare about that once. You did? I had a nightmare that, like, you invited me on, but you didn't, I could tell you didn't really want me to be on. Like, someone had you, and you were like, come in, I guess. That's making me nauseous. Like, you were very unenthusiastic about it. You're like, sit down, I guess. And it wasn't your usual set. It was just like some apartment where I was like, I was like a pity guest. Oh, that's giving everybody the chills in here. That is a proper stress dream. Woke up in a sweat. I can handle a lot of things I cannot handle not being a good hang with you.
3:35Oh my God, I'm so sorry that I was that way in your dream. In real life, and we are awake, and I can't wait to get you in here. I am such a fan of your work. Love, would love to talk to you and would be so happy to be talking to you. Oh, my goodness gracious. Yes, yes, yes. And so happy to be talking to you today. It looks like you're in some kind of studio. There's a piano behind you. Yes, we are in day two of our workshop for our next musical. Warriors! Warriors! Come out to play! That's the one! So Issa Davis and I are here in the room. There are actors learning songs in the next room. There must be no better feeling than like working with the piano and like hearing people sing in the other room and just the workshopping of it all.
4:24Yeah, well, it's the it's the thing of like other people. You get the solitude of writing and then you also get to like bring in a song and then people who sing much better than you sound beautiful on it. And it's, it's, you know, I had so much fun with your episode with Groff, who is also like one of my closest friends, because just the joy off him is like, we're in the play. We get to be in the school play and, and we're all still chasing that high. Yes. Well, I feel that way, you know, about you, Lynn, like, I feel, I know that everybody that works with you feels that way. Like you're such a collaborator.
4:58You love the process. You love making things better. you know, you know, letting the best idea win. Like you can feel that. And also you're a fan. Um, like you've never stopped being a fan of the thing that you're doing. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, it is. I mean, it's why I had so much fun when I was on SNL. It was, it's, it's the school play on steroids. It's like a supercharged version of the thing that got me hooked on this art form of like, we get to make it like, and we get to make something bigger than any of us could make alone, I think is the big thing. Yes. So well said. So well said.
5:40And you got to work with sweet Andrew Garfield. Sweet, sweet Andrew Garfield. First of all, congratulations on Tick, Tick, Boom. What a beautiful film. It makes my life that you even know what that is and have seen it. Of course. I loved the performance, loved your direction. what incredible cast like can we talk about it just for a second because I know it you know it was it's personal material it's also about a person's life who and andrew is kind of actor who's played a lot of real people as I've been looking at his career and like could you imagine even a more considerate and nicer person to like take somebody's real life into their hands but can you just tell me how did you guys come together to make that how did that uh how did that happen Sure.
6:25I, you know, most of my familiarity with Andrew's work was actually theater. Like, I was lucky enough to see him in Death of a Salesman with Philip Seymour Hoffman. And he was unreal in that. And then I saw him in Angels in America, both parts, which is like, it's a day. It's your day. You go to the matinee to see part one, you eat dinner, you see part two, they're both three hours long. And I didn't know whether he had a musical bone in his body, but it's such an endurance test, that play. And he was so magnificent in it that I was just like, this guy can do anything. I just thought, I don't know if he can sing, but I think he can do anything.
7:13Yeah. Andrew and I had like exchanged an email or two in our lives. He was a fan of Hamilton. And so I said, can we go out to like dinner before your performance? He was doing Angels on Broadway at the time. And I took him out to sushi and I told him about the movie we were working on. And I said, can you sing? And he said, when are you making this? And I go, not for a year. And he goes, then I can sing. amazing. And I was like, oh my God, I was going to learn. Well, that's kind of like the theme of what I want to talk to him about today is like, he works very hard. He's a really hard worker and takes, I think a lot of, um, pride in that.
7:58Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. He, he wants the work. He wants the, the discipline. And like, you have to be a monk to do eight shows a week. Like you actually have to like know when you're eating, know exactly what you're putting in your body so that you are at your peak at 7 p.m., 8 p.m. that night. He has played a monk and, like, lives it. Like, he truly lives it. And you know how I feel about Broadway. Absolutely too many shows. I've said this. Well, to quote you in Wet Hot American Summer, theater is now and it's you. That is true. Which I watch maybe once a month. I watch that speech to myself.
8:38It was very obtuse. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. It's now and it's you. I mean, you basically played me in that, me at 14 in that movie, like, guys, this is serious. And then you learn, well, you learn, oh, no one wants to work with that person. Like, your job is to make the most fun room possible so that people choose doing the play over basketball, over debate teams. Like, no, no, actually, this is the most fun place to be. Not guys. We're going to work steps. Story of my life. Story of my life, which is just like, just chill out. Chill out. Just pump the brakes on whatever you're saying. Okay, so do you have a question you think I should ask Andrew today?
9:28Anything big, small? Well, my question comes with a story, which is that, you know, famously, Andrew, like, learned to sing, like, took a year and then came out on the other end and was just, like, an amazing singer for my movie. And there was a sequence we had to shoot that was a swimming pool scene. Jonathan Larson, like, would swim to get his ideas. And he wrote this great stream of consciousness song. And he gets the idea while he's doing laps. and I you know had three days in the actual pool Larson swam in in the village and uh you know had a stunt double for all of the like complicated underwater photography had a special underwater photographer and I found out Andrew is basically Michael Phelps like his dad is a swim instructor that's right and Andrew swam better than my stunt double so my question is like one what are the other superpowers you have that a director hasn't tapped yet.
10:27And, and one, like what feels like even too much of a challenge? Like he'd learned to sing for me. He, Martin Scorsese, like threw him into the wild. Like he's, he's really taken on some, I think he gets very excited by the challenges. Like what's one where, what's, what's something that really scares him that he would still probably do? That's a great question. And I think he's going to love it because I think he's, I think he is very driven exactly by what you said, by the challenge of what to do next. And, and yeah, and I never know what he's going to do next. It's always really interesting.
11:03I mean, his new film that's out is about a peasant revolt. Yeah. And then he goes from that to Sam Altman. Like it's crazy. I know. Crazy. Well, Lynn, I loved talking to you. I, I think we're going to have a very good time and not a scary dream time when we see each other. Thank you. I I appreciate that. And thanks for stepping away. Absolutely. Have fun with Andrew. He's a lovey, lovey, love. Okay. Take care. Thanks again. Awesome. Bye. Bye. This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking whether you set an alarm before having an afternoon power nap, only to wake up two hours later.
11:42Drowsy, confused, so many missed calls. Yeah, checking first is a good idea. So check Allstate first for an auto quote. it could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary subject to terms, conditions, and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. Andrew Garfield is here. We're talking about smells. Do you feel like you have a delicate, do you feel like you have a sensitive nose? Can you smell things? I do. I feel like I'm a super smeller. Do you not? Do not. I bet you, I bet you are sensitive to smells. If I can't deal with...
12:28Smell is my number one. My number one sense. Sense. I'm the best at it.
12:40What do you think is your best of the five senses? What is your best? What's my best sense? What's my most accomplished sense? We've got smell. Remind me of the other one. Okay, we've got smell. We've got hearing. Ah, yep. We've got sight. We've got touch. And what's the other one? Taste. Oh, yeah. I always forget taste. You've got... I'm not going to be humble about this. Don't be. And I don't mean to brag at the same time. I'm kind of trying to be neutral. I love a brag. I'd say touch. Damn.
13:26This is the beginning of the worst or the best date ever. But touch. So do you. Okay, let me ask you a touch question. Yeah, please do. I enjoy. I like how things feel. I like the texture. You're a tactile. I'm a tactile person as well. Yeah. When you're shopping for clothes, do you do. what I do, which is you just, you go like this. You just go like this. For real, if it's not soft, I'm not interested. You go and you sniff it and then you touch it.
14:02Fabric. Yeah. You know what I love? Yes. Can I tell you anyway? Yes.
14:11Felt. I fucking love felt. Fucking hell. I don't know. What do we got? Hold on. Stand by. We're going to start the interview. We're going to start the interview. I know where the felt is in this room. I'm like a divining rod for felt. Hold on. Okay, this is... We're recording in New York. I have more felt in LA. Okay. But... Yeah, LA is much more felt friendly. This is a fake cheeseburger. Open that up. Oh, my God. That's a hard felt. It's a little hard, this felt. Yeah, it's a little hard. This felt is not... That's what she said. It's not Munich felt. I was just in Munich. Munich felt? You know, Munich...
14:46I told you I like felt. Say more. There's a Munich. Munich is known for its felt making. Whoa, cool. That's all I got. And it has like specific, you can tell. Beautifully made felt. So I was shooting in Munich. This is a great podcast story. I was shooting in Munich. Yes. And I didn't have much time on my hands. I was shooting like intensely. But the time I did have was spent in the felt store. Were you playing somebody who had to felt? No, I was playing a peasant. Right. This is this new movie, The Uprising. Yes, called The Uprising. We want to talk about it. And I want to talk about the fact that you are, look at you.
15:24You really do like touches of very important sense. Look at him touching. I would never lie to you about something so vital. Hold on. Sorry, but I just want to indulge your touch fantasy here, which is look at this. What do you got? Another cheeseburger. This fella is too hard for me. Yeah, sorry. That wasn't good. Give that a squeeze. Oh, that's lovely. That's what she said. That's really lovely. I'm really glad it doesn't squeak. I'm glad it doesn't squeak because I'm an adult. You know what I mean? You're a mature lady. I don't need a dog toy. I don't need to get excited by sounds in the way that a dog might.
15:57No. There's actually no worse feeling than when you bring home a toy for a child or a dog and you realize that it squeaks. You're like, oh, fuck. Why didn't I check that? What's cool about this? Yeah.
16:12Yeah. what's cool about this let me smell it while you talk about it we never smelled it it's not bad you know sometimes you smell like they come yeah yeah yeah you all know you all know you know what we're about to say you guys know how your fake cheeseburgers sometimes smell in your office you know we uh Andrew Garfield is here we're starting again that's all the time we have But you're talking about the uprising. I want to talk to you about this because I'm... Okay, I've been thinking about my theme for you. Theme? Yeah, about what to talk to you about today because I feel like we could talk forever.
16:53And I love talking to you. Me too. Same. I love this, by the way. What you're doing here is so beautiful. Thank you. And I'm like, it's about time. There's another podcast. Yeah. I know there wasn't enough. Weirdly, if people hadn't... We have room for one more. I just said one more and I was like... No, but like if anyone should in this world have this room. Thank you for that. It's really fun. Yeah, man. Really fun. And I've been paying attention to, as I've been thinking about and prepping for today, about your work and your life and you. And I'm fascinated by your love of hard work. You just love to work hard.
17:34Yeah, I do. You love it. You do too. Yes, but not as much as I used to. I have a podcast, baby. Just realizing. Sitting down with a, but your, your work ethic is really something. It's, I'm, it's very admirable. I'm, I know you, you care, like your love language feels like it's like acts of service. Like you do things for people, right? I got you. Very funny. Yes. You're on, you're dead on. Like that is how you show your passion for stuff, your love for people and how you show up in your work. and you're always working so hard and in everything you're doing, you're training, you're starving, you're learning how to sing.
18:15This new movie looks so hard. Looks so cold and dirty and hard. And that's all. I just want you to just take it. I want to talk to your team. Take it easy. You want me to take it easier? Yeah. Yeah. No, but I'm really into your relationship to work because I think it's like, it's very admirable and also I think it's it's very I think it's your way into stuff would you agree? I mean you know I keep because one of my favorite episodes that you've done is with Cole Escola it's just heaven it's a heaven conversation and just the running bit of I just like playing it's just all it's all play to me like the play is the thing and like honestly I'm just like I can never go on Amy's podcast because I will be the guy actually saying that for real.
19:08I know what you mean. It's really impossible. You guys have made it impossible to have a serious conversation about creativity. I know what you mean, but I think I can speak for myself and I'd like to speak for Cole. Okay. But I'm very interested in what motivates people. Yeah, sure. Like how people move through the world. And that's the coolest thing about these convos. Yeah. Were you always like a hard worker? What did work look like in your house, in your family? Yeah, no, it's... Yeah. Oh, boy. I know we're going to... No, I know. Do you want to hold something? Do you want to touch something?
19:40Do you want to squeeze something? Is there any felt that's softer? There's no... No, there's no Munich felt. There's no Munich felt in here? I know, it's a disgusting studio. Weird. Jenna, get the Munich felt. Get the... Bring out the Munich felt, Jenna.
19:57I... So, yes. You worked hard. Okay, fine. I'll just ask you another question. It doesn't matter. No, no, no, no. No, no, I really love what your, I just ironically tucked my hair behind my ears. By the way, your hair is incredible. We're in the same position right now. Your hair is great. Propecia. Great. You know what? People should know that. People, I don't. Everyone, every man I know is on Propecia. And also. You just outed every single man in your life that you know, including your young nephews and sons. I don't know. Like every single male. Probecia is incredible. And thank you for saying that.
20:33You have naturally very thick hair. You always have. You have. Congrats. Incredible. And I bet you grew it like that. And you bet you don't even comb it in the morning and it looks incredible. I lied about Probecia. It's just all natural. I'm just trying to be relatable to other guys out there. But your hair looks great. But anyway, sorry. You talked to my hair. I'm going to say something controversial. Sometimes people are great. Do you know what I mean? Like sometimes people are really great. And I know that's a hot take. That is controversial, Andrew. But that's so you. I mean, there's a real humanity to the stuff you do.
21:11There's also, you're just a delightful person to be around. You're a real tenderoni. I have a tenderoni. I will co-sign that. You're a real tenderoni. You're and me both. Yes. And people are great. So say more. Some people, some human beings can be really wonderful and add beautiful things to the earth and to the world. And I guess I'm curious as well about what is it that makes us feel compelled to do that? My mother was one of those people in every single moment of her life. I had this image of her now that she's passed and it came very like, like a flash in a dream or like an awakening. I don't know what it was, but I had this image of her being reunited with her tribe after she passed.
22:03And it made sense to me why she was, she could be so hard on herself incarnate when she was alive. I was like, oh, you knew you were meant to be in a thousand different places at once giving goodness to people. And you knew in some unconscious way that you were being restricted by this vessel of a body, by the vessel of restriction of time and space. So when she passed, I could, I just, I don't know, like, I don't know if you've had this experience with somebody who's passed, but it's like in the first month or two, I felt more connected to her than I ever felt connected to her when she was incarnate, when she was alive.
22:48Let's put it in quotation marks. I do believe that she's here right now and she's everywhere all at once. I do believe that. And I have a knowing of that. so there was something about seeing maybe seeing my mother in in a very specific kind of hard work that was so naturally occurring for her yeah and I was always someone in the same way that you just did with me I was always someone with her was like just take a trip yeah just relax you're enough you're the most beautiful angel on earth you you can give yourself what you give to others and it doesn't make you selfish. It doesn't make you any which way.
23:31But after she passed, I had this real understanding of like, oh no, that was just inherently who she, I don't know whether it was nurture or nature. I have no idea, but it was just the activating, the animating spirit of her, of her essential nature, of her essential being. And I guess you could call that hard work or you could, I don't know, there's something otherworldly about it. As I say, after she passed, I was like, oh, she's back. She's actually back. She's back where she's meant to be, running around with her good angel brigade, giving people who need a miracle a miracle times a million.
24:08I could just feel it. And I was just one of the people that she was hanging out with. Beautiful. I mean, the idea that her spirit and one spirit can be kind of like released once they leave their body. Just that idea that somebody is bigger than their body. And that's so interesting that you talk about your mom when I ask you that question, because there is something in your work that feels really not only curious, but very unbridled. Like you like to kind of go, go places. As I'm trying to like psychoanalyze. Please. And again, I am no therapist, but I do feel like I am. And that's what this podcast is about.
24:49Again, she says again. And I will give you a prescription at the end of this. No, but I think it's also very interesting that you talk, even though you're British in many ways, you were born in the U.S. And you talk, like I find you toggle back and forth between those things culturally very easy. And I had a question for you, which is, what do you think is the most American thing about you? My love of hamburgers. Like I love hamburgers. You have very youthful energy as a person. You're a little brother. Yes, I have a little brother. And your older brother is a doctor. He's a doctor, a heart and lung doctor in London.
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25:26Yeah, the good son. He's the one that made good. He made good, yeah. Did he always? Was he always? Yeah, he was head boy at school. He was catching the swimming team. He was a fucking son of a bitch. Yeah. He was a son of a bitch. How many years older than you? Three years older. Yeah, yeah. I was fucked. I was fucked from day one. And he gave me meningitis day two of my life. Oh, he gives it. He brings home meningitis. And then he became a doctor to heal you from it. You really should prescribe at the end of this. And yeah, I think being raised in a competitive household is definitely a part.
26:00In the nuts and bolts of the therapy, it would be like, yeah, we don't feel enough, the Garfield men. There is a kind of... But competition sometimes gets a bad rap. I love competition. I love competition. I love games. God, I love it too. I fucking... What kind of game player are you? You know what I mean? Like, do you get too intense? Yes. Yeah, me too. I think you would have to ask my friends this, but I would say I do. I have, I can upset people. Yeah, I have as well. I work on it because obviously, like, everyone wants to have a good time. But when people say things like, I know, when people say things like, who really cares?
26:36I'm like, what are we doing? What do you mean? Like, we're playing a game. Like, we have to try to win as best we can. Otherwise you're ruining the game. Yeah. Anyone who like says, yeah, I'll play. And then it's like, yeah, like this is so stupid. It's like, don't fucking play. Don't fucking play. Yeah. Don't show up. And also I'm treating you. I'm being rough on you because I believe in you. And I love you. Yeah. For sure. I mean, I expect the best from you. Yeah. And I want, I want you to grow. I want you to grow at, at celebrity or whatever we're playing. Traitors. Werewolf. Okay. Do you like playing mafia?
27:11Yeah. Well, I play with werewolf is the version I play. Yeah. I'm not I'm I'm bad at being the werewolf Dude me too I hate And when I get it I'm like oh fuck I know I hate it I hate it I hate I hate the like lying I hate the Deception I know I know But I love accusing Winning Yes of course Joy with John Proctoring And also defending oneself Of course Being like how dare you think That I'm the werewolf My name You could not take my name And everyone's just like Drinking their beers And just like wanting to go to the bathroom. Like thou shalt not. Okay, so let's get in. I do want to ask you a couple questions about your work, okay?
27:53I have to. Your first film, you're with Meryl Streep and Cruz and Robert Redford. How old are you then? I'm 23, I want to say. So you're coming onto that set. Everyone has the jitters of any first day on any job. Like I'm just going to be cool. I'm just like, just don't talk too much. Like that's what I would say to myself. Just listen more than you talk. They'll get to know you. Whatever you're saying to yourself, as you're driving to set or whatever, what are you saying to yourself when you're approaching that set? That's a really intimidating set. That's so intimidating. Oh my God. What was it like to work with Robert Redford?
28:34I don't know what I was telling myself. So first of all, Bob Redford, God rest his beautiful. soul of service that man had a soul for service like what he did with Sundance and like and what that sprung from came out it came out of him I think helping out his new neighbor in Utah who was about to be foreclosed on he's all I'll buy your farm so you can keep it I'm gonna have to make some some money out of it and we'll set up a like a lab for young filmmakers so it came out of him helping out his neighbor it's just like he was he was a beautiful beautiful man and very late all the time to everything.
29:13So I say it with love. So I'm like, I'm like, yeah, terrified and nervous and pinching myself. And then Bob is four hours late. And it's just like, by that time, I'm just pissed. I'm just angry. Okay, let's talk about this. No, I wasn't really. Yeah, yeah. Right, so you're... But a lot of the nerves had kind of dissipated because he was so loose and casual. And he was so cool. and he still dressed like he was in his 20s with the double denim and he wasn't aware that he was late. He was just like on his own Redford time. And he was famously late. I'm not like telling tales out of school. Sure. He was like a famously late person.
29:55Well, God is fair. I mean, you know, like he's so handsome, like there's going to be something wrong with him. I mean, what if he was like on time all that? I'm like, okay, great. So he's late. Like you'd be a little annoyed with the guy. So he's late. He's like, I was too handsome. I couldn't stop looking. I felt guilty. So you were feeling less nervous. It helped. Well, he was so relaxed. Yeah, he was so relaxed. And he would shoot his own coverage first. He would shoot himself. And then he would look at me after his first take. And he'd be like, what do you think? Because he was directing as well.
30:31So all my scenes were with him. And he was like, what do you think? And I was like, thank you. It's great. Really good. It's really good. Robert Redford. and he was like okay oh that's really generous I'll do it again I'll do it again and then but yeah tell me if you think if you see anything that you think and I'm like oh my god oh that's a really interesting move right it was heaven because he's trying to like oh yeah just make me feel like it was my set and make me feel like I was an equal and like he knew it was my first movie yeah that's very nice oh he was so nice he was so beautiful and we and it was like a theatre play and I'd done only theatre at that point it was a lot of dialogue and it was like a well you are a theatre you're a theatre boy I love theatre That is your first love.
31:09That is my first love. That was like my first exit of the Truman Show. You know what I mean? Like opening that door in the sky. And then it was like, there's a whole world out there that I had no idea existed. When you were working on that film, were you still working at Starbucks? No, no, no. You had quit Starbucks. I had quit Starbucks. No, because there is always this weird thing sometimes when you're acting. No, I wasn't ready to fully let go of it. Of course. And like, you know, I'm not going to say that that era is over. Right? I had a little bit of a shock straight out of drama school. Like I did two plays in a row and then I was like, I'm set.
31:45And I did like a Doritos commercial in Spain. And I'm like, that's that. I guess. Wrap it up, fellas. Like stand on that. Wrap it up. That's my kind of like the rest of my life is going to be the occasional Doritos like crisp commercial and great theater work. I'm good. Yeah. and then I didn't work for a year and then I started having to wait tables again and be a bartender and I broke up with my girlfriend at the time so it was like a really great year of you know you're never safe like this destabilized kind of place and I still have it I'm sure that you do too even at the top of this swanky building or not you're like no I'm pretty much set no you know it's funny it's funny you say that I know what you mean like I still just feel like you have to have a plan always just if everything goes away yeah um and what's yours well i mean it's funny i i still have dreams sometimes about going back being a waitress because i liked i liked waiting tables a lot um because working in the service industry in general i liked a lot because there was just certain things that felt like you just completed your night like your night had a system and you completed it.
33:02You interacted with people enough that you performed a little bit. You were with people who also worked very hard. But the idea of doing a good job still means a lot to me. I know it means a lot to you. I get a lot of self-esteem from work. Yeah.
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35:29Do you consider yourself a method actor? So the method... And if so, who am I speaking to? But it's like... But because it is, you do go pretty deep when you're playing coach. You do. You got that trickster look in your eye. You're looking for the clickbait headline. You're like, is he going to give me the juice? Babe, you lost all this. Wait, you studied for a year being a monk. You go for it. You go for it. Are you method? Are you method? Answer the question. Are you method? It's a yes or no question. I mean are you though don't try and get cute with it are you no but I want to know in a way yes but I think I think the term has been massively mischaracterized and misunderstood and co-opted by people that don't know a method is basically having a method and like the Stanislavski method, the Strasbourg method is about trying to live truthfully under imagined circumstances and, and, and having it feel personal, having it feel, um, connected to something that's interior, that is not just, um, a kind of more performative exterior, um, abstraction.
37:03so I feel like yes but I don't I think there's a way of doing it that's generous I think there's a way of accessing that work and that style of working that doesn't fuck with the rest of the cast that doesn't fuck with the rest of the crew that you don't have to lose a bunch of weight that's playful yeah totally and generous and my personal taste and my personal Sidney Lumet the great, one of my favorite filmmakers of all time who seems to vanish as a director in his movies in the sense that he let his movies be the movies rather than letting people know that he directed them. Yes. You know what I mean?
37:45Like every movie is such a different flavor, such a different feel. Alan Parker is like that too for me. Alan Parker, I was thinking about Alan, and so very, one of my favorite films of all time, Bugsy Malone, Alan Parker, and then he does Angel Heart. Yeah. Holy fuck, you know? And so he says in his great little book, Making Movies, I don't know if you've read, he tells a story about Paul Newman, I think. Yeah, he tells a story about Paul Newman in, what was the movie they made together? It'll come back. But he's like, Paul Newman came with, he did this scene and Lumet was like, okay, I think we're going to reshoot this tomorrow because I think you need to find out what this scene's about inside yourself.
38:27And he comes back the next, and there was something very personal that he was referring to. He was like, I think you know what this moment is and I think you're resisting going there. And Paul Newman came back and he did the scene and it was like one of the great scenes of any Sidney Lumet movie. And he describes it as personal revelation. Sidney Lumet is like the actor's job is personal revelation while the cameras are rolling. The actors that I respond to in the storytelling that I respond to feels like personal revelation. Yeah. And through the lens of a character, where I think about like, and I've talked about this openly, about Tick, Tick, Boom, which is a film that I'm very proud of and I really love.
39:04Beautiful performance. Thanks. And I just, but I can talk about it because it feels very personal and also not personal at all in a way. It does feel like that kind of liminal place of letting another spirit move through into mingling with my own spirit, but also my mother's spirit is so much in that film. but it was very very personal because I just lost my mum and we were making this movie and it's about the shortness of life it's about the shortness the sacredness of life it's about being of service it's about living out your own calling your own destiny in a way we're talking about waiting tables and that year off how do you hang on by hook or by crook to the note that you hear in your head that you have to follow How do you play your note?
39:56How do you not fall asleep to your note, even though you're a salmon swimming upstream of a world telling you to drop it and take the nine to five or whatever it is? You mentioned directors. You've worked with really interesting directors. You always do. I have a question that I want to ask. Fincher is one of my favorite directors. I love his films. Rashida was in Social Network. I know. And I always, and I was like, what was it like working with David Fincher? Like, and she's, he's so incredible to work with. But I really want to know genuinely and not, I'm not like digging for some. I want to know what does the many, many takes do?
40:37How does it help you as an actor? How does it, does it, how is it not frustrating or like. Can be. Yeah. Is it like, I. I love it. You love it. Fucking love it. Because I love acting and I love hard work. And I love sports and I love not going home with anything left to give. And yeah, there's nothing worse, as you know, than going home going, I could have done that better. Yeah. It sucks to feel it, to feel like you're in bed and you're just like ruminating of like. Oh, yeah. I was, my father put me through drama school. He worked so hard. and now I've just done like a half job at like this thing that I'm so lucky to do.
41:24And so, yeah, I love it. And also I find it pleasure. I just find the work really deeply pleasurable. But I love positive reinforcement. I do. I genuinely do. It works on me. Like I don't, I don't, the challenger in me, what I'm relating to is the competitiveness of like tapping into like, fuck yeah, I'll do this fucking 30 times. I don't give a shit. I can tap into that, but I need sometimes, like I don't like, and I'm sure David isn't like this, but I don't do well when I, like when someone's negging me, like I just kind of quit. To use the phrase from the pickup artist. Are you talking about mystery?
42:04I'm sorry, mystery. Sorry, just a quick sidebar. Shout out to mystery. Shout out to mystery. We miss you guys. Mystery, it didn't work between us, but that doesn't mean that you can't find love. obsessed with the pickup artist. She didn't love the negging though. It does not work on me. Like when someone comes up and is like, you know, like, hey, you're ugly or whatever. I'm like, okay. Like, why are you so ugly at this bar? Whatever that. I'm not even good at pretending to do it. I'm like, huh? It does not work on me. It does not work on me. But like an exercise class, right? If someone's like, you're going to work super hard in here.
42:43and like, you know, and I'm just like, no, I'm not. Not anymore, I'm not. Not anymore. You could have had me. You could have had all this. But when someone's like, you got here no matter what, it's 7 a.m., like, I'm like, fuck yeah. I'm just telling from me, from me. So in any of those repetitive takes, whether it's with David or another director, do you like, do you trust when you get positive feedback? With David, I do. Okay. I did. And he would give it? Yep, he would. Okay, good, okay. But what's so cool about David is that he's that dad. He's that dad that knows that you need that. And he'll give it to you in abundance when you've really shown how much you care.
43:29It's that kind of coach. Right. I love a sports coach like that. Like Paul Greengrass on the film The Uprising is like that. He's an incredible team captain. He's just like, he's just like, we were like a football team, English football team. And he was our, he was our man. And he was so full of beautiful positive reinforcement. David would be, Fincher would be less quick with it for sure. But when you got it, it was like that you would be stoic about, you would receive it and you would want to cry. But you would be like, thanks, yeah, it's cool. It was like that level of like, it meant so much.
44:10And the big scene with like the smashing of the laptop thing in that movie. Yes, in the social network for anyone who doesn't know what we're talking about. Yeah, social network. And we did a lot of takes of it. And there was like a few rounds of takes where I was like, he's going to call it, he's going to call it soon, he's going to call it. So, okay, one more time, Andrew. And I'm like, okay. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then on the third round of 10 or 15 takes, I didn't hear anything. I was just like on the floor with like, I was exhausted and like, just like snotty and just like crying. And I'm just like waiting for like, and at that point you're broken in a way that's like so beautiful.
44:50It's so beautiful. It's the best fucking feeling in the world. It's the best fucking feeling in the world. Okay. You say so.
45:02Okay. And I just feel like a shadow approaching, like covering like the the light that was on me just gets like kind of covered by a figure and I look at his shoes and I look up and he looks down at me he just puts his hand down and he and he takes my hand and he shakes my hand and he lifts me up and he's like okay moving on and I'm like so withholding so hot
45:29I don't know you haven't you haven't sorry but you haven't sold me you haven't sold me let me tell you Because I would have liked him at Take 10 to say, you're doing a great job. Hey, babe. Hey, babe, you're doing great. Hey, babe, you're doing so great. I would have liked, this is what I would have liked. You're doing great, but you know me. I have to do 25 more. That's what I would have liked. I feel you. Well, let me say one more thing about David, because I feel like I need to protect David as a father on set now. Yeah. You can feel that he's proud of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because of what you're given.
46:00He's such a talented director. But you can feel it. He's not withholding. It's like, it's like, it's not like you're doing a bad job and it's not like, I'm not going to give you the banana. It's like, it's like, you can feel when he's, he's like, he's like, we're going to keep going. We'll do another one. Think about this. Think about that. He's, he's a tender, tender guy. He really, really is. Getting back to the very beginning of what we're talking about is this idea that caring about something is like, it's just like very important. And I'll self-reveal because you're really doing it. You're really acting like my therapist today, which I don't appreciate.
46:38I'm sorry. Which I don't appreciate. I'm honestly sorry. Okay. You're my David Fincher and you're breaking me down. No, but when I feel like if I've checked out or I like feel like I am acting like I don't care about something, it really means that I've divested. and it's a bummer because it means that I've lost some kind of relationship. Sometimes you have to do it to protect yourself. Sometimes you do it because you don't have anything left to give. Sometimes you do it because you don't feel like the person that you're with, I don't know, earned or deserves or can hold it. Yes, totally, totally.
47:14All that. Totally. But you feel like you've lost something. It's heartbreaking. It is. It's heartbreaking. And you are very, very, as a person, as an actor, you really invest. And it's like it must be. Exhausting. It must be exhausting It's tough That's why I think you need to take a break from some of these movies I'm going to take a break No, I am going to take a break They're too hard I was too hard It's too hard being an actor Being an actor is so Did you see Cole? Cole knows It's very hard Pretending to be things Pretending to be in a peasant's revolt It's hard It's hard Pretending to be a German magician I go home at night and I'm like, owie I had to pretend it was cold It was actually hot so and then and then and then um wait I do want to I want to what okay seriously whatever whatever you want to ask well you know what I I love I love your your hold on this is an SNL skit this is an SNL character I'm trying to be I'm trying to be was it you and Fred Armisen or was it you know was it Kirsten Wig that would start a sentence and then never finish the sentence?
48:28Yes, Fred. What was that sketch? They played Garth and Kat. That's so good. I love that sketch. Sorry, Fred played a character called Nicholas Fane. Have you ever, let me ask you this. Incredible. Has it ever been a, okay, say you're in, it's summertime. It's summer, Oregon. But there's a dog. Do you have a dog? Wait, dogs or cats? I do it badly. And I've already told you that, or I said on that podcast, when he would do it, the cue cards would be blank. You hosted SNL, right? I did it once. Yeah, I did it. And did you have a good time doing it? I loved it. I absolutely loved it. I bet. And of course, I was so scared.
49:06But again, like service, I think the best episodes are when the host supports the cast. Well, that's not always like an intuitive thing, which I understand. But like nobody really pulls anybody aside to say like, I know this might feel weird, but you'll have the best time if you say yes to the stuff that like the cast likes. And, you know, like if you just like become an ensemble member, you'll have the best time. But it's not always set up like that. But did you host it for Spider-Man? Was it during Spider-Man? I think it was the second Spider-Man, yeah. I had Tom Holland in here. Sweet. Oh, my God.
49:41Sweetie pie. What a sweetie pie. Catootie, yeah. Such a doll. A doll. Such a talented actor. So talented. And I just have to say, I love how all of you guys like show up for each other. You talk about each other. You talk about your experience. It's a brotherhood now, which is really, really great. Like I think like doing the one where we're all together really cemented some kind of weird brotherhood that was just beautiful. Yeah. And I had known Toby a little bit before, but he was always my, you know, my North Star with that character. Yeah. And I loved what Tom's done and I think that was very healing for all of us to do that together and to feel less alone in that very, very weird singular experience.
50:26Like to be a part of this character's legacy that is maybe, I don't know, arguably one of, if not the most popular fictional character in the history of like modern fiction. Really, really true. I don't know another character that is that beloved around the world. And now, you know, mother of boys. How old are you boys? They're now 16 and almost 18. And the Propecia is helping? Yeah, it's helping a lot. Yeah, I insisted they get on it. Really? Like a lot of hair now. Mommy loves a good head of hair. Mommy, mommy, mommy. You know, mother will be disappointed. That's what I say. I wake them up and I say, has your hair grown?
51:04Mother's disappointed.
51:08Have you seen Andrew's hair? I say, don't let mother down. That's what I say every day. When I closed the door. But they, but they, the way in which when that character was introduced in their lives, the way they embodied him, like their bodies want to, it's really wild. It's so Joseph Campbell primitive. That's so interestingly put. That's really interesting. They want to get in that crouch. Yes. And they want to leap. And it's so fun with those kinds of films where you watch people come out of the film and they're just moving like dancers. It's so cool. And I just want to talk about Sally Field.
51:54Oh, my God. Yeah, let's do that. Isn't she? Wow. She's so good at acting. She's one of the best. She really is. She's maybe one of the best. You've worked with some amazing women. Fucking hell. And congratulations. You seem to really love women and everybody can tell. Thank God. Yeah, women love you and you can tell. And Sally is, I don't know, I just, what was it like to work with her? What is she like to be around? She's one of the great people alive or dead for that matter. But she's so weirdly still humble. It's a weird thing. I would say she has legend status. She's like icon, legend status as a performer, as an actor, as a person.
52:46And somehow she's retained a kind of homespun, grounded, again, in the same way that Redford made me relax. Like Sally is someone that you just feel like you're with the best friend aunt you could ever wish for. I was thinking about this the other day, actually. I think one of the great highlights and privileges of my life was to be able to give her a Lifetime Achievement Award at the SAG Awards a few years ago. Yeah, that was so great. I felt so lucky. I almost said no because I just didn't think that I could handle it because it was so, it was such an honor because she is so beloved and rightly so.
53:26And she's so beautifully extraordinary and ordinary. side she honors her ordinariness in such an inspiring I really can't believe I can even talk about her in this fashion it's so funny you say that she's so so so talented like and I've she's probably her and Meryl probably the two most influential actresses and for me growing up um but she never felt uh above or below us ever she never put herself that way no no no it was Or is just like, just her? There's a million people that would have wanted to talk to me today about you. I know about this part of your thing. I'm nervous. I'm like excited and nervous.
54:10And you've got someone to come and say something. You have so many talented friends and they all love you and they all want to, it's, you know, it is, it's a really, you should know that it's a really nice thing when you have a guest on and there's like so many people that would want to speak well behind your back. That's crazy. But we talked today to Lin-Manuel Miranda. Oh, and he talked about the process, you know, of working with you and, and how, you know, when he said, you know, can you sing? And, you know, when you were like, when are you going to make this? And he was like in a year and you were like, yes, which is amazing.
54:47I love that. And that is now knowing a little bit more about your competitive spirit. I understand that, which is like, oh, I can do it, coach. Yes. Yes. So true. his question was he spoke a little bit about how what a good swimmer you are and how he didn't know that and he called you the Michael Phelps of acting which you know not that big of a deal who would that be me and I don't know who else do you swim a lot do you like to swim I still swim yeah I surf now it's translated my gymnastics I was a gymnast when I was a kid into like, you know, Spider-Man stuff. Yeah. I took all of the stuff that my dad was trying to like discipline me with and I turned it into something like a funner version of those things.
55:35Like with swimming, it was like up at 5 a.m. You know, swimmers, like they train. It's crazy. I know. So I turned that into surfing. So like my paddle is pretty strong and I can, yeah. So I surf more than I swim. But I swim, I don't really swim, swim anymore. I'll do like open water swimming and swimming in the sea and like swimming ponds and like natural places. Yeah. Do you have long arms? I don't think that's any of your business. Fine. Fine. Well, I'm not going to tell you what Lynn said. I know that your least strong sense is your vision, but you could have made an effort to just look at the arms.
56:10I'm just, I'm like, do you have long arms? Do you have long arms? Okay. Can you clear something up for me? It's just been bugging me this whole time. I'm like, let me see. Are your arms long or are they short? Where are they in the spectrum? the spectrum. I need to smell and see if your arms are long. Okay, but he said, he said, first of all, he was like, ask Andrew what, he said, the only way is like Columbo with his. Oh my God. The only way I can figure out. That's a good Peter Falk. Peter Falk, me and him have the same birthday, not too bad. Let me smell, just one more thing. No, one more thing.
56:45Let me smell your arms. Just because the motor has been particularly long swimmer's arms. I don't know. I just not wearing my glasses. But my nose is strong. So I'd like to just... Never mind. I'm out. Now, one more thing. One more thing. Can I smell your arm? This one even smells like chlorine. Have you been in the pool? Oh, shit. God, Peter Falk. You guys remember Peter Falk, right if you anyone under the age of 50 colombo god damn it love colombo so much but so lynn's question for you was um what other secret you know he had a two-parter first was like what other secret what other secret thing are you good at that we don't know yet i know he's like tell us now so a director can a director can know but he basically was basically saying like you know does anything feel like too much of a challenge um you do a lot of you you really take on a lot of challenges for the work that you do your game yeah that's a cool question uh it's a question i've been asking myself um you know you know i'm really scared of yeah i'm gonna tell you anyway Being a dad Scares the shit You're gonna be so great It scares me so much You're gonna be so great Don't even worry about it Seriously Even if you get 50 Mommy's proud of my hair Mother is proud Mother is proud The fact Andrew that you even Say it Yeah.
58:35Well, I mean, I think that would be the biggest, most important thing I ever probably do. Yeah. And I know that to be true. It makes me want to cry thinking about it. Cry, cry, cry, cry. I love when boys cry out here. Cry, cry, cry. Talk about thinking it to us. It's like, fuck, man. Yes, you'll be so good. I know what it's like to be on the other end of it, you know? Yes. You know what I mean? I've been a child. No, it's really... I've been a son. Yes, we've all been born from dads. And sometimes not, right? Right. I don't know. Don't cancel us. Don't cancel. I'm sorry. We're all born however we want.
59:17Fuck.
59:23Wait, but let's get back to you crying.
59:28But you're going to be such a good dad. You're going to nail it. I want to do it. I do want to do it. And I, and I, it kind of, you can sometimes feel a bit selfish with, I want to be, well, I don't know. I don't know. So I, so I'm the, the, in terms of a challenge, I can't imagine a greater, a greater challenge than taking that kind of responsibility. And then there was another question about stuff I'm good at. I, a sad, I'll, I'll respond in a sad way. Always.
1:00:00and it relates back to the body failing oh my god what are you gonna say grab some felt real quick just grab something get that felt back in my hand let's get that touch going let's do a little yeah I um I was playing basketball recently I love basketball and I thought I think I'm pretty good at basketball I have a theory about this
1:00:28I think the worst injuries happen with men in their 40s when they play basketball it's a theory that's backed up with a lot of evidence go ahead what did you do? Columbo's sister
1:00:45Columbo's sister she comes and she's like Columbo let's get out of here and he goes wait a minute she's like you said you were leaving like 10 minutes ago.
1:01:00Kelombo's sister is like, get in the car. Jesus, you had your keys in your hand for 10 minutes. I've been waiting in the car. Kelombo's like, just a second. Okay, sorry, sorry. Okay, basketball. Let's get back on track. with some friends. I was playing with Woody Harrelson. Oh, great. He's a good basketball player. I know that. White Man Can't Jump is one of my all-time favorite movies. Why am I holding these felts like they're cards in a poker game? I'm like, do you have... Do you have... Do you have... We're playing Uno. Do you have orange cheese? Okay. Okay, sorry. Come on, Andrew, focus! If anyone's not watching this and just listening to it on the podcast, fuck, I'm so sorry.
1:01:52We're holding. I'm sorry for most of what's been happening. We've been holding cheeseburgers this whole time. I'm so sorry. Oh, Jesus Christ. I was playing with Woody, who I love and I've been a fan of forever. And White Man Can't Jump is just one of those all-time great movies. And he's just one of my all-time favorite performances of all time. All time, all time, all time. And I was so excited to play with him. And then as soon as we got on the court, I just froze. I was just like... You got in your head. I was just like the seven-year-old at the party that just wants to go home. Oh, God, yes.
1:02:25Oh, God, yes. I was just so scared. It was like fight or flight or freeze. I folded. I fully froze and folded. And I played really badly. I just want to apologize to everyone in that game. And that's tough for a competitive person like you. Yeah. I just love Woody so much. I've been wanting to play with him for so long, and it was finally our time. And he still plays great. And he's like, you know. I don't think he should. Woody, if you're listening, you're going to blow out your knee. He's taking really good care of himself, but he's fiercely competitive. Yeah, yeah. And I love it. I absolutely love it.
1:02:56Anyway, so a thing that I thought was a hidden talent, Lynn, turns out - It's gone. There was never maybe there. So there we have it. You made a movie that took place in 1381. Yeah. And it is about a peasant uprising. It looks badass. It's cool. I saw the trailer for it and the feeling of like, whoa, this is a very political, very interesting movie to make right now. And what is it about? Yeah, it's about true events in that period of British history. It's called the Peasants' Revolt. And it was a big uprising among the ordinary folk of the British Isles that came together in an organized way.
1:03:48And it's told, the story is told in a way that is very unique. And it's because it's this, it's one of my favorite directors of all time, Paul Greengrass, who people would have seen a lot of his amazing films like Captain Phillips or the Bourne series, Movies with Matt Damon or United 93 or Bloody Sunday, The News of the World with Tom Hanks. Some of my favorite films of all time. I've wanted to work with Paul forever. And it brings up really interesting questions about revolution, about violence in revolution, whether it's needed, whether it's not, how change can happen without some form of military coup.
1:04:27Like it's really a visceral story. It's so cool. It looks incredible. And it's a ride as well. It's also just like a really entertaining kind of action film. It's like a really cool movie. And it also has my scariest kind of villain, which is a boy king. Oh, yeah, boy king. Tyrant boy king. Tyrant boy king. Oh, yeah. Oh, there's nothing scary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was real. This King Richard was 14 years old. And at that time, this is what's crazy. At that time, and it wasn't metaphorical, it was literal. The king was the messenger of God's word on the earth. So anything that the king uttered was literally treated like it was sent from heaven above.
1:05:12And any equivocation of that meant you were a treasonous and traitor to the throne. So anything that this boy decides, this 14-year-old boy who is being governed a lot by these money hoarding, power hoarding, land hoarding oligarchs was treated, had to be, there was no question. It was just like, that's the way it is. Water is wet. You know, sky is blue. The king is God on earth. Okay. That's that. So that level of power, it's a really interesting thing for right now. I need to finish. I need to finish. You need to go. You have like 45, but 45 other things to do today. No, this is lovely. But I want to finish by asking you the question I ask everybody, which is what are you listening to, watching, numbing out with?
1:05:57I love numbing out, man. Okay, what video do you like? What movie? What video? What's your video? What's your video? Sometimes it's just a video of like a bird eating a worm. What's your video right now? We're back on the first date. Now we're back in the first date. And you're like, what's your favorite video? What's your video? What video do you watch when you're more on top?
1:06:24when you want to turn off your head. Yeah, watch the video. What video do you watch? My favorite video right now is, I've been watching a lot of Roy Horn of Siegfried and Roy fame because I play Roy Horn in this upcoming Apple TV show and we just finished. Do you know this? I love this for you. Bro, it's really fun. You're playing Roy Horn? Yeah. So I've been watching lots of Roy Horn videos. Is that why your hair is so luscious? Yes, yes. That's partly. But then we just end up putting wigs on of the same hair. Yeah. It's like, can I get a wig of this on this hair? Yeah, great. That makes sense.
1:06:59No, no, no. It does make sense. Oh, my God. We're playing them through me and Jude Law. Jude Law's playing Siegfried. Ah! And we're playing them through the decades, from their 20s through to their 60s. It's amazing. So fun. It was so hard. Manticore. Manticore. Maneater. It means man eater. Excuse me? The name means man eater. I did not know that. Manticore. The tiger that... There was an incident with? We say incident. There was an accident. There was an accident. Because who knows exactly what happened? It was named Montecore, which means man eater. I cannot wait for this project. And Roy hand raised him.
1:07:33Yeah. Wow. And Roy, so I'm obsessed. Yes. And I'm still obsessed. That's a good sign that we were prepping for a year. We shot it for six months. And I'm still obsessed with Roy. I still adore him and his spirit. Yes. So I've just been watching lots of footage of him for the last year and a half, and I continue to watch it because I just adore him. And have you handled tigers? Have you been near tigers? I have been near tigers, yes, but only in a very legal and safe way. But I did feed a tiger by hand, which was kind of incredible. Tigers are amazing. And I say to them, good day, sir. Yes. I say to tigers and I and it is nice to meet you and I shall take my leave because tigers scare the fuck out of them yeah they lived with them I know he hit a thing in the morning he hit a button as he woke up and it sent a bell into the garden letting the tiger that he wanted know it was time to come and snuggle The tiger came into the house Came up to the bed Jumped on bed And they snuggled To wake Roy up He was Incredible Something else Yeah He was something else Andrew Garfield Amy Poehler We have talked so much This was so fun We yapped We yapped We did yapped But I knew we would Me too It's been a while I know It's so fun to be with you I love talking to you I feel like we're from The same planet In some regard I feel like we're from some kind of same universe which I I love just being with you and I've always always have I remember when I first met you it was with Jane Aronson Dr.
1:09:20Jane Aronson of the Worldwide Orphans Foundation and I was really nervous to meet you because I'm just a huge fan of yours and I just think you're just so wonderful I hadn't known many famous people at that point and you were just like so warm and engulfing and encouraging and caring in such a genuine way that made me feel a lot of hope for being a person in this world. And you're a beautiful, beautiful person. I really adore you. Andrew, thank you so much. You smell so good. Everyone should know. It's my best sense. And I'm here to say, Andrew smells great. Just like we thought. Andrew Garfield, everybody.
1:10:08Andrew Garfield, that was so fun. And oh, you're just a real silly Billy. I had such a good time with you. Thank you so much for doing this. And for this Polar Plunge, you know, we talked about some great people that Andrew worked with, including Sally Field. And I just wanted to remind everybody, if you're looking for a movie, a beautiful movie that's filled with heart and will make you cry, and it's all about like the spirit of a woman saving her farm, check out a movie called Places in the Heart with Sally Field and Danny Glover and a young John Malkovich and Ed Harris and Amy Madigan and it's so, so good.
1:10:50Not enough people talk about this movie and it's one of my favorites. Places in the Heart, Sally Field, I love you. Andrew Garfield, we love you. Thank you so much for doing this episode and thanks everybody for listening. See you soon. You've been listening to Good Hang, The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, Alea Zanaris, Bridget Geerlings, Paige Garbarini, Belle Roman, and Drew Van Steenbergen. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman.
1:11:25Original music by Amy Miles.
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Andrew Garfield is a real tenderoni. Amy hangs with the movie star and talks about why Munich has the best felt, getting too intense while playing Werewolf, and whether or not he has long arms.Host: Amy PoehlerGuests: Lin-Manuel Miranda and Andrew GarfieldExecutive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, and Aleya Zenieris; lighting director Caroline Jannace; audio producer Kaya McMullen; social producer Bridget Geerlings; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and bookers Kat Spillane and Paige GarbariniOriginal Music: Amy Miles
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